1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hi again everybody on dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The sign your name across my 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: addition as we get reactions to Shamar Stewart being under 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: contract and on the practice field, plus a one on 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: one visit with Chase Brown and a look at the 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: first week of training camp with Bengals dot Com editor 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Butch Hobson. 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Moments after the Bengals selected Shamar 28 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Stewart with a seventeenth pick in the draft, Al Golden 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: gushed over his elite physical traits and said he's a 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: young man that we're really looking forward to working with. 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: While he had him in defensive meetings during the off 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: season program, Golden never had the opportunity to work with 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Shamar on the field, and when training camp opened this 34 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: week and Stuart still wasn't practicing, the team's new defensive 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: coordinator sounded concerned. I just feel like, you know, I'm 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: on hold right now. You know, I can't. 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: I can't. 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: I can't give him that wisdom or that experience of 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: those gifts. And at the end of the day, you know, 40 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: that's business, and obviously that's between his camp and and 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: and upstairs. But it doesn't, it doesn't doesn't make it easier. 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: You know, I want to work with him. I want 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: to help him be the best he can be and 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: make the greatest impact that he can make. And obviously 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: the sooner the better for that. 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Thankfully, the weight ended after just three practices. After a lengthy, 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: ended times acrimonious negotiation between the Bengals and the agent 48 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: for Stuart, the team's first round pick, signed a four 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: year contract on Saturday that includes a fifth year option, 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: and while it wasn't easy, Chamar says, there are no 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: hard feelings. End of the day, I'm happy to be 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: in Bengal. 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: I'm I'm happy that I got driving here. 54 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: You know, we have a long relationship ahead of us. 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: You know, there's no bad blood. You know, this is 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: how things go sometimes. When Stewart walked onto the practice 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: field on Sunday, he was immediately greeted by defensive line 58 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: coach Jerry Montgomery for some one on one tutoring. 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: Very hands on, I'll tell him, not very hands on. 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: You don't let nothing slide. 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: If you don't like something, you're doing it again, no. 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: Matter how many times you messing up, you're doing it 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: over again. 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: It's no secret that Chamar didn't have many sacks in 65 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: his college career four and a half to be exact, 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: in three years at Texas A and M. But Montgomery says, 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: too many people fixate on what Chamar didn't do well 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and ignore where he excelled. 69 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 6: We're literally talking about him missing sacks, right, But the 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 6: guy is violent in the run game. He affects the 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 6: quarterback at a high rate. 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 7: When I say affected, he's back there right, first year playing, 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 7: truly starting, so he's just got to learn how to finish. 74 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 7: But more importantly, he's beating up on tight ends. He 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 7: is destroying tackles, run and pass. His effort and play 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 7: style is phenomenal. Like his effort to the ball is 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 7: he leaps? Okay? Now, like I told everybody, if he 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 7: affected the quarterback, meaning he got him off the spot, 79 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 7: or he had hits the balls out, are he scrambled 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 7: already missed some opportunities. But if he just finishes on 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 7: let's just say he gets I don't know, you call 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 7: it six seven sacks, you know what, He's not a 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 7: Cincinnati bank. 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: In other words, Montgomery believes that Stuart would have been 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: gone before pick number seventeen. Jerry compares Chamar to a 86 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: first round pick he coached in Green Bay, John Gary, 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: who went to his first Pro Bowl last year. 88 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 7: You know, he had all the trades, but he had 89 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 7: he had good pressure productions, but he didn't have the 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 7: sac production. Well, he gets to the league, he gets goos. 91 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 6: Up, he's on an edge more than he's been in college. 92 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden. 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 8: He he has to productions, the No Po Bowl, those 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 8: type of things. So but again, like I said, if 95 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 8: he had the numbers would have been long gone. I'm 96 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 8: saying top five. 97 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 7: He was by far the most explosive player in the draft. 98 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Would it have been nice for Stuart to take part 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: in every OTA mini camp and practice so far? Of course, 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: but he still has roughly forty days in three preseason 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: games to get ready for the regular season opener in Cleveland. 102 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: Here's Zach Taylor and what he's looking for from the 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: twenty one year old rookie. 104 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 9: Improve every day. You know, just like any rookie, be 105 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 9: a consistent guy. Don't make the same mistake twice. We 106 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 9: know that there's gonna be some mistakes. There's gonna be 107 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 9: some some installed overloads early on in the process. It's 108 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 9: just making sure, Okay, I made a mistake on this, 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 9: I'm gonna make church corrective. I'm better there, and then 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 9: you know, plug the lead as it occurs somewhere else. 111 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 9: So again, he's got plenty of time, you know. It's 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 9: it's great to get him now when we can, because 113 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 9: we haven't even put pads. 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: On, put pins on tomorrow. 115 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 9: He's got seven practice perfor coplate Ullys, and there's play 116 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 9: a time to get him out. 117 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Of Nobody in the building knows Chamar better than his 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: former college teammate and close friend mckin lee Jackson, who 119 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: says the six foot five, two hundred and seventy pound 120 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: defensive end with four five three speed and a forty 121 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: inch vertical leap will have a major impact. 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 4: He's a special guy. Pus a person out of background. 123 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: I see he came from, and I know where you 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: can go. I know what he can do for this team. 125 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: Like I said, he's really specially do like a walking transformer. 126 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: He's like a unit. 127 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: So and the thing is, I've seen that by that 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: if he is at eighteen, I mean it was crazy then, 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: but it's crazy nine. Its form more emotional. You know, 130 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: he's dangerous on the field, so you know, I'm just 131 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm excited for him. Man, I got high to take 132 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: this for him, and I said, I'm gonna set the 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: ball high for him, and I'm gonna pushaby they to 134 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: who's their standard, you know, Like I'm saying, I'm more 135 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: excited for the other guys to see what's gonna happen 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: with him, because I've already seen it. Observe guy I 137 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: pushed a lot out of I mean, he was always 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: that they quick, the fast, like to get out the 139 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: ball type of guy. We had to push him to 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: this to be what he is now. Hey, you know, 141 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: I said, I'm really proud of what he came. 142 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: The Bengals hold their first fully padded practice on Monday morning, 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see Stewart line up against 144 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: the Marius Mems and Orlando Brown Junior in one on 145 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: one pass rush drills. Now, let's hear from my next guest. 146 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: In his first game following an injury to Zach Moss 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: last year, Chase Brown had twenty seven carries for one 148 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards and five catches for thirty seven more. 149 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: From that until the end of the year, he was 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: one of the NFL's most productive backs. Now, heading into 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: his third season, Chase is clearly number one on the 152 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: depth chart and expected to be one of Cincinnati's top 153 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: offensive weapons. I caught up with him one on one 154 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: this week. Chase, it certainly sounds like you are going 155 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: to have an increased workload this year. Did you adjust 156 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: your offseason in any way to prepare for the likelihood 157 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: of that? 158 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 10: Every single offseason I go really hard, So no, not really. 159 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 10: I come in every single year expecting to earn a role, 160 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 10: you know what I mean, expecting to prove myself over again. 161 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: And that's my mindset this year. 162 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 10: And you know, coming into this year with you know, 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 10: as a starter, as a more established player, I'm just 164 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 10: looking to build on what I did last year and 165 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 10: helped this Upunians. 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: A heavy workload would not be unusual for you. Going 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: back to your last year in Illinois, you had thirty 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: five or more touches in five different games. You have 169 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: forty one carries in one. Yeah, pare you for the 170 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: possibility of having a huge workload? 171 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say that I 172 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 10: was a workhorse in college and I can do it 173 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 10: in the NFL too, except now I'm a more dynamic player. 174 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 10: You know, my ability to run rows, my ability to 175 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 10: catch the ball, my ability to make plays and make 176 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 10: big plays is completely different than what it was in college. 177 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 10: So that's why I'm bringing to the team this year 178 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 10: is just my explosive ability and that home running, home 179 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 10: run hitting ability to. 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: You know, put that ball and ends on any time. 181 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: That game where you had forty one carries, I think 182 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: you also had four catches, What did you feel like 183 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: the next day? 184 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 5: You know what I really Wasn't that sore? I mean, 185 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 5: I took care of my body in college, and I 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 5: take even more care. 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: But now so. 188 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 5: Heavy workload, you know, doesn't you know. I'm not going 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: to shy away from that anyway. 190 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 10: I just take the responsibility to take better care of 191 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 10: my body, invest in my body, and I'll be just going. 192 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: We're visiting with Chase Brown. You and andre Yosi Bosh 193 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time together before practice, doing drills 194 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: things like that. Describe your relationship with him, because it 195 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: seems like at times you two guys are almost inseparable. 196 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we look for ways to better ourselves 197 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 5: every single day. 198 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 10: Andandre and I connected and got really close in Atlanta 199 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 10: and does all the work that we put. 200 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 5: In out there with our coach Drew. 201 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 10: You know, that's uh that's time that really allowed us 202 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 10: to get to know each other, uh, get to know 203 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 10: how to push each other and uh honestly trying to 204 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 10: out do one another. We're we're both extremely competitive and 205 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 10: we're both trying to you know, you know, continue to 206 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 10: you know, increase our role in you. 207 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: Know, such an explosive offense. 208 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe people are sleeping on him a 209 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: little bit. Do you feel the same way? 210 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: Definitely. I mean Andre is capable of doing everything, but 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: you know, he's behind two superstar receivers, so I mean, 212 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 5: being a three in this offense is you know, that's 213 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 5: a pretty big deal. So, you know, I'm just proud 214 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 5: of him. 215 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 10: And you know, his mentality that he brings to practice 216 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 10: every single day and his mentality of you know, trying 217 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 10: to get better on a daily basis is honestly on 218 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 10: like nobody else. 219 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 5: So I'm excited for him and what he's about to 220 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: do this year. 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: A week or two ago, Eagles got their Super Bowl rings, 222 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: including your twin brothers, Sidney. Yes, I know you love him. 223 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: I know you're thrilled for him. Are you a little 224 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: bit jealous? 225 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 5: I no, No, I don't. I don't. You know, I 226 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: don't envy him in that way at all. I'm proud 227 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: of him. Honestly. 228 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 10: He worked hard for that, the team earned that, and 229 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 10: you know, now it's our turn to go get ours. 230 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 10: So that's kind of how I'm thinking about it. 231 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: So during this time of year, you guys are in 232 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: the building for eleven hours a day, whatever it is, 233 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: and you've got a six month old son. How are 234 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: you connecting with him during training camp? 235 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: Honestly? Yeah, the honest answer is in not that much. 236 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 10: He's to sleep in the mornings and when I get home, 237 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 10: he's pretty much going to bed. So I'm trying to 238 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 10: do as much as I can to help and make 239 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 10: sure even though I'm not there, I'm still present. 240 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 5: And you know what's so great about my support system 241 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 5: at home is they understood. You know, my girlfriend, she understands, 242 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: you know, what what I'm going through and. 243 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 10: How important camp is for not only myself but for 244 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 10: this team. So she's you know, taking out a big role. 245 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 10: But you know, we got a you know, our baby, 246 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 10: Sarah the babysitter Sarah, that's helping us on a daily 247 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 10: basis and allowing her to go to her own things. 248 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 10: So just grateful for my support system at home and 249 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 10: making sure that my little man is taken care of. 250 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: How many people yell out to you, I've got you 251 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: on my fantasy team on a regular basis A lot. 252 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 11: I mean on social media, whether I'm you know, getting 253 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 11: a smoothie somewhere or I'm trying to, you know, go 254 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 11: find some new clothes or something, and people always saying 255 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 11: something to me about fantasy football. 256 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: So I guess. I guess people are drafting me this year. 257 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: No doubt. Is it flattering or in some ways uncomfortable. 258 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 10: No, not uncomfortable at all. I'm trying to embrace it, honestly. 259 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 10: I mean, made a lot of plays last year. I'm 260 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 10: under the same thing this year. 261 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: So last thing for Chase Brown, Dan Pitcher said recently 262 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: that you are a top ten back in the NFL. 263 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I assume you heard that or saw that. What did 264 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: you think? And is he selling you low? 265 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: Selling me low? 266 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? Should it be? He's a top five bat? 267 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 5: No, I appreciate him, you know, I think extremely high. 268 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 10: Coach Pitcher and everything that he does with this offense, 269 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 10: and you know, just grateful that you know, he's uh, 270 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 10: you know, making me a big part of you. 271 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 5: Know, what we're doing here. I'm doing everything i can 272 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: to you know, help this offense be more explosive. 273 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 10: So just grateful that he trusts me, trust my playmaking ability, 274 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 10: and we're just going to continue to grow. But I mean, 275 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 10: I'm not even paying attention to you know, top ten. 276 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 5: This top ten n I'm just gonna go out there. 277 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to play, take. 278 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 10: It one game at a time and we'll see at 279 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 10: the end of the season. A lot of those rankings, 280 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 10: I mean, a lot of its hype, so you know 281 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 10: what I mean. The Chase Brown name is just it's 282 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 10: just starting to get big. So we're just gonna keep 283 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 10: on building that up. And you ask me that same 284 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 10: question and then end of the. 285 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: Season, consider it done. Appreciate your time to have a 286 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: healthy camp in a great season. 287 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. 288 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Before an in depth look at the first week of camp, 289 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that the Bengals Booth podcast is 290 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: brought to you by pay Corps, proud to be the 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: Bengals official HR software provider by Alta Fiber future proof 292 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: fiber internet designed elevate your home, business and community to 293 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: a new level and by Kettering Health the best care 294 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official healthcare 295 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: provider of the Bengals. Now time to look at the 296 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: first few days of camp with Bengals dot Com editor 297 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,119 Speaker 1: Jeff Butch Hobson Butch, what is your number one takeaway 298 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: after the first four practices of Bengals training camp. 299 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: I love morning practices and I think the players do too. 300 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: After that, I would say they got to be pretty 301 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: happy with this bookie class. I mean the two guys 302 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: that have sitt out to me right away, to the 303 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: linebackers to meet you, Snighte and Barrett Catter. I think 304 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: the running back Taj Rooks has looked impressive anytime he's 305 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: touched it. And we'll find out about Fairchild their third 306 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: round and we'll find out about that pretty quick. But 307 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, and Schimar just came in and you know, 308 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: so we'll get a beat on him. But right now, 309 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: my takeaways number forty four Demetrius Knight, They're going to 310 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: be happy they drifted them. 311 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I think my biggest takeaway so far is that Al 312 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: Golden was the tremendous higher and we thought it, but 313 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: now we're seeing it. Got to keep in mind every 314 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: day how good this offense is. So anytime the defense 315 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: has what is considered to be a win, or in 316 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the case of today, like half a win, that says 317 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: a lot about Al Gold And I think he's the 318 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: ultimate attention to detail guy. I think the players are 319 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: buying in. There's an enthusiasm on that side of the 320 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: ball I haven't seen in a while. I feel very 321 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: confident in thinking. And maybe this is stupid to say 322 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: after four practices that the Bengals at worst are going 323 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: to be a middle of the pack defense instead of, 324 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, near the bottom of the pack. 325 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: If the middle of the pack, we're all smoking cigars, right, 326 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the you know. I compared it 327 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: to Mike zimmers Higher. Two different guys, two different systems, 328 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: but both highly regarded defensive coordinators who have been asked 329 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: to come in and steady the ship for a great offense. 330 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: I think back to two thousand and eight, zimmer inherited 331 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of nameless guys, had finished twenty seventh. They 332 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: didn't make many additions into eight, and they went from 333 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: twenty seventh to like twelfth, and then next year after 334 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: that they went forth and they started going to playoffs 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: with when they had quarterbacks like Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton. 336 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: They started going to the playoffs with competent defenses. I 337 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: kind of compare that to this, and you know, but 338 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: except we're talking about the best offense in a national 339 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: football league, whereas, like you know, back in the Zimmer era, 340 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: it was it was a good offense, but it wasn't this. 341 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. You named some of the rookies 342 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: as guys that have caught your eyes so far, but 343 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: how about in general, who are some of the players 344 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: that have really stood out to you? 345 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 7: Well? 346 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: I thought a guy today at the end of the 347 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: the last the last rep of the day is rain 348 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: began to fall. Didn't that feel nice? TJ. Slayton made 349 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: it really had a real good pressure inside. They were 350 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: on goal line, and I put just enough pressure on 351 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: Brow to force and in completion and those were few 352 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: and five between because Joe was hot all day. But 353 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: to your point about Al Golden, you know, Joe sifted, 354 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: shifted all day and then when they started going at 355 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: the eleven and low red zone and then on goal line, 356 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: they stiffened up and the guys were hired to come by. 357 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: But I think t J. Slaton Slayton, you can feel 358 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: the difference that he provides. And maybe it's just because 359 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: he's wearing a DJ Readers number. I don't know, but 360 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: there hasn't been a guy like that since DJ Reader 361 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: and he's a presence. You've felt it, You've seen it, 362 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: and I think you felt it today when it went 363 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: go on. 364 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Badly needed and so far doing exactly what they need 365 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: him to do. I've got a few guys, most of 366 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: them are on defense. Cam Taylor Britt didn't do much today. 367 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know the GPS suggested that 368 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: he needed a day of rest or what it is. 369 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: But in any case, I think he's been terrific so 370 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: far in camp. Logan Wilson looks healthy and frisky and 371 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, the perfect guy to run Golden system. Fig 372 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Newton I think has been impressive. I'm really impressed by 373 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: watching his leadership. I remember in the offseason Chuck Burks 374 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: called him the heartbeat of the defense and I tweeted 375 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: that and got some pushback from people thinking that that 376 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: was somehow a knock on the other guys when it's not. 377 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: He's just one of those guys. I don't think there's 378 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: anybody on the team that encourages his teammates more than 379 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: that guy does. So I love that. And then money Mack, 380 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: money Mac looks like Moneymack again. He hasn't missed the 381 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: kick yet. He's gone back to the way he kicked 382 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: it as a rookie with a slight draw, so it 383 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: kind of starts out towards the right, upright and winds 384 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: up right in the middle. Looks great. 385 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: If that's what he did his rookie year, keep doing it, 386 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: I think. And I guess maybe that was the kick 387 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: against Green Bay when he had the draw and he 388 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: thought he had stuck it in and made it to 389 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: beat the Packers, but it didn't. But Aaron Rodgers was 390 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: the quarterback that day. Maybe he'll stick it when Aaron 391 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: Rodgers was the quarterback of the Steelers and beat itim. 392 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, getting back the fig. I talked 393 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 2: with his family a little bit his rookie year. He's 394 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: an interesting guy. He he's the guy that speaks at 395 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: that speaks at the family gatherings, you know, big family 396 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: growing up in Louisiana and he's the guy they choose 397 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: and he's just an outgoing guy, very personable, and I 398 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: think that's exactly And Chuck's an interesting guy too, because 399 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: I think Chuck quietly done a great job. If you 400 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: take a look at that secondary, those are all the 401 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: guys that have been here since he's been here. I 402 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: think only Jalen Davis uh is here from that Super 403 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: Bowl secondary. Everybody else has been drafted or signed when 404 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: Chuck is here, and uh, you know, I think they've clearly. 405 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: I think this camp, we've seen their depth. I actually 406 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: talked to said something that Chuck today. I said, the 407 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: way you guys are playing reminds me of your first 408 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: camp And you remember when that's when a Woozier was 409 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: playing at a very high Pro Bowl level and Eli 410 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: Apple was all over the place. So Mike Hilton was 411 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: was was sticking with people. I kind of get that 412 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: vibe vibe with this group, you know, And it was 413 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: interesting that although you could see camp wasn't out there 414 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: because Joe Joe had his way. But then you know, 415 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: it's hard to uh, it's kind of get on the 416 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: DBS when seven on seven is a year for the 417 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: offense anyway, and that just isn't a quarterback over there 418 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: that's accuably the best quarterback in a game. With all 419 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: due respect to Patrick Mahomes, you know, I think Joe 420 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: was probably better than five more categories. So if you're 421 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: talking about pure you know, pure statistical by the position, 422 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 2: that's the guy. And so but you know, it's like 423 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: talking to Lemonta Parish the other day when he went 424 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: into the Ring of honor, the best, the best receivers 425 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: he faced, where Isaac Curtis and Charlie Joyner, those were 426 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: those are the best guys that he faced in his career, 427 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: he said, And may help them practice. And I think 428 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: the DB's you know a game is going to be 429 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: at the d at the beach after facing this guy. 430 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: It's so true. There was a pass early in practice 431 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: today Burrow to Tea. He wasn't really open, but the 432 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: pass was that good and t is so big and 433 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: his catch radius is so crazy that even if the 434 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: coverage is as good as it can be, those guys 435 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: are so freaking good that they complete the pass anyway. 436 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he he burrowed just kind of shoulder fake 437 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: or whatever, just looked at Jamaira in the flat and 438 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: just shot it to Giseki, you know. And then on 439 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: another play he looks somebody else off and it was 440 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: and it was Jama, you know, down the scenam and 441 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: you're thinking, man, this is almost like it's almost like 442 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: a video game, you know. So but that's this is 443 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: this is training camp, right, Hoary. I mean, everybody's winning 444 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and everybody's the first first offense, the 445 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: number one ranked offense. 446 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: Maybe not the Browns. Have there been any pleasant surprises 447 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: so far? In your mind? 448 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: There's one guy said to me who I trust, implicitly 449 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: said it's a little too early for surprises. But I 450 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: will say, uh, and I don't think McPherson is a surprise. 451 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: I thought he would come you know, I thought he'd 452 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: come out looked, you know, just I figured he'd do 453 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: what he does, going and just and tweak and put 454 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: himself in a garage. And he's done that. I think 455 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: what I kind of like to see a little bit 456 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: is the Jermaine Burton. You know, I think he really 457 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: he's you know, he looks like he's should have looked 458 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: coming out last year. But I think this is a 459 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: guy that he's just you know, he's been through what 460 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: I talked to Browning about this a little bit, and 461 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: his head's not spinning. He's been through a year, and 462 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: I guess you got to just kind of put yourself 463 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: in your own shoes, you know. Coming out of college, 464 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: you know, I couldn't tie my shoes. You know, I 465 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: think in a couple of years. 466 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking down at your shoes now to make sure 467 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 1: he can. Now. 468 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well up the debate. Uh these uh, these these 469 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: what do they call him scratchers? 470 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: What do they call him sketchers? 471 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Sketchers? Yeah, I probably got to get some of those. 472 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: I probably probably should have had them when I was 473 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: twenty two. But you can tell Burton seems to be 474 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: you know, he's he's caught everything thrown at him, so 475 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: you don't see him screwing up an assignment, you know. 476 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: So I think that, I mean, if he's if he's 477 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: the guy they thought he was when I draft him, 478 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they're gonna have to have they're 479 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: gonna have to pass a rule at the next meeting 480 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: about being able to use three footballs. 481 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: And as as exciting as the prospect is of him 482 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: being you know that the player with first round talent. 483 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: Putting it all together, it kind of makes people forget 484 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: about Yosi Vash how good he is and what he's 485 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: going to contribute to the team this year. 486 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he he's he looks as good as he 487 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: did as he looked. I mean, I think he bulked up, 488 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: he bulked up in the spring, and he still looks 489 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: he still looks good. I mean, it's just a matter 490 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: of and And we talked about this and he said, look, 491 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get I'm not going to. 492 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Get the opportunities. 493 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get you know, Jamais, Jamais here, 494 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: Teas here, Mike Kiseki's here. I'm not going to get 495 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: the opportunities. But when I get them, I have to catch, 496 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, I have to. I got to be reliable. 497 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's what. 498 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: He's focusing on, is just doing the right things and 499 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: being the guy who you know that Joe can always 500 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: turn to, which I think, you know, that's kind of 501 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: was Koseki last year, but I think Andre kind of 502 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: took that role. So, you know, here's the guy you 503 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: get the two playmakers. But if you get in a 504 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: jam and you need a play you know, I think 505 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: Yoshi has kind of grown into that and now he's 506 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: gonna have I was kidding with him, I said, you know, 507 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: fifty catches, and then we started thinking, well, you know, 508 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: that's a lot. I mean, Jamais coming off one hundred 509 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: and twenty seven. You know, he was hurting, still. 510 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Caught a lot of balls. 511 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna play seventeen games. So I think it's just 512 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: a matter of you know, Joe Burrow says it, everybody's 513 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: gonna have their game, and it certainly looks like Yoshi is. 514 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: Looks like he's got a few of them. 515 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: What's the biggest position battle? 516 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think I think Dax Sill's 517 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: your slock guy once he gets back from his ACL 518 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: and they really today he was his first shot in team. 519 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: A couple of snaps they've been, but they really been 520 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: kind of taking it ease with him. But I think 521 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 2: I think he's I don't think there's a battle there. 522 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: I think I think Hills your slot guy. You know, 523 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: it's it's got to be the right guy. See that's 524 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: a that's a really good battle with Cody Ford and 525 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: uh Lucas Patrick, two good veterans. Patrick is wasn't practicing. 526 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: It looks like I think nothing serious. 527 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm told yeah, that's what Zach said a couple of days. 528 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: But you know, he's a great veteran who started a 529 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: fifty eight games in this decade for three different teams, 530 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: started opening day for three different teams, been around, knows 531 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: the game. Same thing with Cody. Cody saved it butt 532 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: last year. Uh not at right, gad, but it everywhere else. 533 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, so he's proven to be a 534 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: formal guy. So that's a really that's a really big 535 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: that's a really big battle to watch. 536 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: So let's get back to tax Hill for a moment. 537 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: They're obviously working him back in slowly. He was cleared 538 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: for the start of training camp, but coming off in ACL, 539 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: he's not, you know, running out there on every single 540 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven snap, seven on seven. It's lined up 541 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: a few times in the slot, took part in some 542 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven stuff today. Do you think that that 543 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: decision has been made that he is going to be 544 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: the starting slot corner or is there still a world 545 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: where fake Newton ultimately is that guy and Dax started 546 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: on the outside where he played so well last year. 547 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: Boy, you know it sure looks like he's the slot 548 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: guy because like anytime they've had him. 549 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: Out there, but it's been so few snaps, right right, right. 550 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: But that's where he's been, you know, So I mean 551 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: Figures lined up on a slot a lot. I mean 552 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: he's getting a lot of those the snaps that Dax 553 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: doesn't get. Fig gets, and uh so, you know, you're 554 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: you're right, it is haired to see it. But I 555 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: don't think they had made a decision. I mean I 556 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: think they I mean, to me, Dax is a slot 557 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: guy because that's where they've put him. And I think 558 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: but I think they feel pretty comfortable with fig And 559 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: which is big because remember this is you know, Mike 560 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Hilton just signed to Miami yesterday, so you got to 561 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: remember what he did for this team for four years. 562 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: So the fact that they've got two guys that really 563 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: feel comfortable and we haven't even talked about Jayalen Davis, 564 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: who you know, has always been here, hasn't played a 565 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: hell of a lot, but he's but he's always here 566 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: in the practice squadad or you know, he looks he's 567 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: looks like he's having a good camp again today. So 568 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: to me, the one thing about this This thing that 569 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: we're seeing is the depth, the depth of cornerback. I mean, 570 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: that's the hell of the corner room. 571 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: It's a hell of a corner room. Dj Ivy got 572 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of snaps with the ones today because Cam 573 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: wasn't doing as much. And he looks like a guy 574 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: that if pressed into service, wouldn't kill you. 575 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: And he has. He was pressed into service last year. 576 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: I mean he was covering some he and uh uh 577 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: he and Marco uh, Marco Wilson were taking a lot 578 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: of Keith snaps last year during that five game winning streak. 579 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: And Ivyes, he's rangy. 580 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: You know, he can run, he's got the he's got 581 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: the long arms. I mean, uh, you know, like I said, 582 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: they're there. You know, it could be hard to cut 583 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: that room, but they've got And like I said, that's 584 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: something to be said about Chuck because he's developed every 585 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: one of those guys. I remember, he's told me one 586 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: of these he goes. I've watched at least three times 587 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: all these guys walk on the field, you know, whatever 588 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: they've done. So I think he's got this is again continuity. 589 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: And I think Al feels comfortable too. I think with 590 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: him and Joy in Kovacs because we haven't even talked 591 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: about the safeties yet. Probably the most bellagued unit, probably 592 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: the most criticized unit of last year, and they didn't 593 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: make a change, which is that was the surprising to 594 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: me about the offseason was no moves is safety, no 595 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: veteran safety. But I think and we've seen why, you know, 596 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: we've seen why al likes Gino. Smart guy can Blitz 597 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: has obviously enough ball skills. He led the AFC in 598 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: interceptions once battle. We know he's part in the pun 599 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: battle tested all but sixty games at Alabama. That's why 600 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: they're drafted him. So and I think they've played. I 601 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: think they've played pretty well. But to me, it shows 602 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: the continuity. You've changed the defense with Golden, but yet 603 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: to have Kovacs and Burkes the same position, coaches, guys 604 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 2: who Kovacs as a guy who is Golden's assistant linebackers 605 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: coach when he was here, when Gal was here the 606 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: first time. So that the kind of stuff to the 607 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: kind of continuity that that winning programs have. 608 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: I asked you for a pleasant surprise and I didn't 609 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: give one, but you just talked about him. It's been 610 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Geno Stone to me, Uh, he wasn't very good last 611 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: year they cut his contract, but he's been good in 612 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: camp so far. There's been a pass break up every day. 613 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: There was the perfectly timed blitz that got so much 614 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: attention at the first practice. I'm I'm encouraged by what 615 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: I've seen so far from Geno Stone. I think this 616 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: version of him is why they signed him prior to 617 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: last year. 618 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, smart guy, get you lined up? Uh and 619 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: I and and also too. Uh, I guess we'll you know, 620 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: the minute the pads come on. You know, he's gonna 621 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: have to tackle. I mean, he he's talked about that 622 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: openly that he didn't have the kind you know, he 623 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: missed a lot of tackles last year. Can't do that 624 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: and uh so I I think that, Uh yeah, I mean, 625 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: first four days, guys that they need veterans. They need 626 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: the two veterans that they needed to step up and 627 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: play Moneymack and Stone have they have. They have stepped up. 628 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: So the Shamar Stewart drama is over. Signed on the 629 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: dotted line yesterday, practiced for the first time today. He 630 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: missed three days of training camp. He was in the 631 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: meetings but wasn't on the field. During the OTAs and 632 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: the mini camps prior to training camp. In the end, 633 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: how significant was what he missed? 634 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure this is why Carrie Hobson is listening in 635 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: with THEO and Freddie Shamara's lot I get, got a 636 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: lot of ink, got a lot of attention. I think 637 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: what people forgot was that most athletic defensive linemen in 638 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: the draft in the last forty years or so, and 639 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: now they've got a chance. 640 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Well you better include Miles Garrett in that sentence, or 641 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: give me just the Bengals. 642 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking about relative athletic score that is comput. 643 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: God knows who computes that. I'd be the math bomb. 644 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: He's been on my podcast before. 645 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well ask him where he had, Ask him where. 646 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: He had he had a perfect score. Now Schamar did 647 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: not take part in one or two of the things 648 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: that they test for, and that helped apparently have the 649 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: perfect store. But bottom line is, if there are if 650 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: there's another guy as athletic or you know a handful 651 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: of guys, that's it. He's among the most athletic defensive 652 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: lineman ever coming to the league. 653 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 2: So now now he's got to get I mean, now 654 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: we'll find out, what does springball mean? I mean, who 655 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: knows Shamar could come out and prove that springball means 656 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. It means something, obviously, But I think he 657 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: said it best. 658 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 7: Uh. 659 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: I guess when I talked to him after he signed, 660 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, yeah, I have him been 661 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: on the field, but I believe in my physicality. 662 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: I believe in I believe my ability. 663 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: And he goes, I've got the I've been looking at 664 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: the plays, I've had the playbook, I've sat in the meetings. 665 00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think that helped. 666 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: So we're not talking about a guy that you know 667 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: wasn't here, right, you know, So and I you know, 668 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: he's been talking to these guys, he's been you know, 669 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 2: McKinley Jackson's one of his best friends, Mims. He's been 670 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: talking with Mims for day, text and everything, and so 671 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: it's not like he was gone. So I just don't 672 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: think and any you know, Jerry Montgomery is a veteran 673 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: defensive line coach who's been around. So I just don't 674 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: think this is you know, I just don't see anybody 675 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: getting overheated about the situation. You know, I think, yeah, 676 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: you know, I think you know, we haven't had a 677 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: what rookie holdout and maybe you know, fifteen years or something. 678 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: So I think that's part of it, you know, that's 679 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: part of it is Wow, we haven't had you know. 680 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: I try to tell people, you know, thirty years ago, 681 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: this was a daily you know, this was a daily 682 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: thing in training camp, you know, and it was other 683 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: side throwing bombs and he said, you know, they would 684 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: make this look. 685 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: Like a tea party. 686 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: So I just don't think it's a I think it's 687 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: a They get him for the fourth practice he's been here, 688 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: and I think that's pretty I think they I think 689 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: they're pretty happy that they've got you know, like Zach said, 690 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: no question, get him ready for the opener. 691 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: My feeling is it essentially got done in the nick 692 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: of time. The pads go on tomorrow, so he has 693 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: not missed a padded practice yet. He's in tip top shape. 694 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: As you said, he was in on virtually all of 695 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: the meetings during the you know, the spring schedule until 696 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: the very last day of the mandatory mini camp, so 697 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: he's been around the team. He's one of the guys. 698 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: He's been in the playbook. Now it's going out in 699 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: the field and preparing physically, and again he hasn't missed 700 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: a padded practice. So had it extended into next week, 701 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: I think it would have been significant. But I really 702 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: feel like they got it done in the nick of time. Yeah, 703 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean I think that. 704 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: You know, he said it best when he said, you know, 705 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: there's a difference, man, this is the National Football League. 706 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: And he said, when hen Orlando Brown Junior put hands 707 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: on him, you know, you know wow. And when amarusmim 708 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: has put hands on him at right tackle, he said, 709 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: it was like, you know, two bricks on his chest. 710 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 7: You know. 711 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 2: So he needs the time. He knows he needs the time. 712 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: These guys know he needs the time. I mean I 713 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: think that, you know, plus two what kind of and 714 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: you probably felt this too hoardy? This this is we're 715 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 2: kind of on fast forward here, not only because Zach 716 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: wants to get off to a good start and he's 717 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: really pounded that. But you know, they play next week, 718 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: they play August seventh, they play Thursday. This team's on 719 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: the road Wednesday. 720 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: August sixth, you know, I mean ten days. 721 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they get out of the I mean, they 722 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: get out of this this thing. They got. Everybody's on 723 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: fast forward. So I think that was I think that's 724 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: a lot of the mindset too. This team is, you know, 725 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: this team is rapidly looking ahead to September seventh. 726 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: One big contract issue down, one to go with Trey Hendrickson. 727 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: It was interesting at the pre training camp luncheon that 728 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals hold every year, they so called Mock Turtle 729 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Soup Luncheon, Mike Brown it publicly expressed confidence that he 730 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: felt that it was going to get done. Mike usually 731 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: doesn't say things like that unless he has a real 732 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: conviction that it is. So, what is your optimism level 733 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: right now that that Trey's going to sign? 734 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I think they've always been talking, 735 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think they've ever not talked. I 736 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 2: know they've got you know, I think probably a couple 737 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: of people are talking to Tree, you know. So I 738 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: don't think there's a there's not there's not been an 739 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: iron curtain falling down, which is the big thing. And uh, 740 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think, like you said, you know, it's 741 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: it sounded to me like they were when Mike walked across, Uh, 742 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: when Mike walked across the hall to go to the luncheon, 743 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: that they had something almost done. And then I think 744 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: maybe when he got back to the office, who knows, Yeah, 745 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 2: maybe something changed that happens in this stuff. So I mean, 746 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, if Mike Brown's optimistic, I'm going to be optimistic. 747 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, these guys are this is what 748 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: these guys do. They do deals, they did Shamar. I 749 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: have no doubt they're talking to the county, why they're 750 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: getting the Shama done, and why they're also talking to 751 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: Harold Lewis Drey's agent. They're also getting stuff done with 752 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 2: the county. So it's a you know, there's always close 753 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 2: store meetings around here, so I mean there's always stuff 754 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 2: gets stuff gets done that you don't see in the headlines. 755 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: When I heard Mike say what he said on Monday, 756 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: I came away with the feeling that, like the big 757 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: picture numbers are either done or close. And now, whether 758 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: it's signing bonus or you know, percentage upfront or whatever 759 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: it might be, those are the things that have to 760 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: be resolved. But for Mike to be that optimistic, like 761 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: the big numbers, I feel like that part is probably 762 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: either done or close. 763 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: I mean, those small things get bigger as you get 764 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: closer to the season. So what seems like maybe a 765 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: small item to either side may not as you get closer, 766 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: as you draw closer to getting this thing off. But 767 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, we're like I said, they're optimistic 768 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: and they're talking beyond that. I'm not sure what else 769 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: you can say, just like I say, so you know, 770 00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: you have to feel. 771 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: Good that talking. So when I asked you off the 772 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: top for your number one takeaway, you started with morning practices. 773 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: They practice at ten am. They have a walk through 774 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: at the end of the day before everybody goes home. 775 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Is that making a difference? Guys like it? But do 776 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: you think it's making a difference. 777 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: We won't know until they won't know until Wap's doing 778 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: the radio show at in Cleveland on September seventh, and then, oh, 779 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: it was a stroke of genius because they won thirty 780 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: one to three. But the fact they like it, I 781 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 2: think is proof that you know, probably they did the 782 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: right thing. I mean from I mean, you know, back 783 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: in the day, you would do it just so to 784 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: get out of the heat. But nowadays, because of nutrition, 785 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: how these guys heat. I mean, these guys probably they 786 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: do just as much stuff warming up and warming down. 787 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: Then they do actually out in the field. So I mean, 788 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, Jim and I was talking about how it's 789 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: good morning's great, got two hours to himself, but he's 790 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: also you know, doing other stuff in the gym, and 791 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: then he's getting something to eat, and it just seems, 792 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, Gasecki was talking about that he's gives him 793 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: more time to do his own thing, you know. So 794 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: you know that's and you know, I was sold when 795 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: Burrow said I'm a morning guy. Okay, I mean, come on, 796 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 2: that's that's I think that's that's proof. 797 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's working well. To use your phrase, I 798 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: imagine you have some tapping to do. That's how you 799 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: describe writing your stories, so I will let you tap. 800 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time as always. 801 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: It's great to talk to Hordy. I think I've been 802 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: able to hear the two best voices I've heard in 803 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: a long time, Philip Bailey of Earth Wind and Fire 804 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: and Dan Horde, and both both get better. 805 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: As the age. I will not start singing reasons right 806 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: now because it hurts my ribcage to try to hit 807 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: the high notes. Appreciate the kind words. See you tomorrow, 808 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: Thanks Fordy. 809 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: We'll do it again. 810 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: That's going to do it. For this episode of the 811 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought you by pay Core, Proud to 812 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: be the Bengals Official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber 813 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business 814 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 815 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. 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