1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. This is Bloomberg Markets. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlett Foo. It's time now for our stock of 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: the hour, and we're looking at Royal Caribbean, following as 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: much as eight point eight percent at one point today, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: although it has since cut that decline in half, and 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: of course, this after its profit outlook for this quarter 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: trailed analyssessments due to cost related to its newest ship. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, this is a stock that's holding your 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: record highs climbing sixty three percent through yesterday's clothes. CEO 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Jason Liberty says demand for Royal Caribbean's experiences and brands 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: continues to accelerate, and I'm pleased to say Jason joins 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: us now from Miami. Jason, great to speak with you. 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: I want to start with that stock reaction. It's a 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: fairly steep decline, even though you beat second quarter earningsessments 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: and you raised your full year adjusted EPs guidance. So 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: this weaker than expected outlook for this quarter due to 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: the delayed launch of Star of the Season. That's a 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: one time thing. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Sure well, first, Scarlett, it's really great to be here. 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: I think in terms of when we think about off 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: of expectations. I think that's off of consensus, it's not 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: necessarily off of our expectations. We actually the year is 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: playing out exactly how we thought it was going to 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: play out from our last call, except that we've seen 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: elevated close in demand, which resulted in an outperformance in 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: the second quarter. Also, you know, if we continue to 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: see that out performance that we saw in the second quarter, 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: that leads to additional upside for the balance of the year. 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I look at Royal Care being shares and how they've 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: done so far this year, pretty incredible run, and a 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: lot of people say that that raises a bar obviously 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: for your earnings print and your guidance. One analyst even 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: said investors were basically expecting perfection. Is that frustrating? 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: No, I mean, we manage this business for the long term, right, 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: We're making investments that are that are that are really yielding, 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean significant benefits for our shareholders. You know, we're 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: going to generate almost seven billion dollars of EBITDA this year, 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: and our earnings performance is up over thirty percent year 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: of a year for our expectations for twenty twenty five. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: So I think that it's you know, I can't manage 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: what people's expectations are from one quarter to the next. 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: What we focus on is delivering the best vacations in 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: the world, doing that responsibly, and that's resulting in our 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: guests paying us more money because they trust the vacation 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: experience that we're going to deliver for them. 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Let me just come back to this idea of stabilization 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: and visibility in your business right now, can you give 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: us any sense of what stabilization or improvement you might 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: have seen following what some observers have observed as a 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: bit of a slowdown in April, right around the time 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: that the Liberation Day tariffs were announced. 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Sure, thanks, Carling. So I think, first off, when the 53 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: Liberation Day occurred, you know, there was a little bit 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: of noise, but we really didn't see a change in 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: consumer behavior. You know, we're fortunate that we get to 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: have about a million, you know, millions of different interactions 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: with our guests each and every day, whether that's them 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: planning and booking a vacation for the future, or whether 59 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: they're spending on board, and so we've actually seen an 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: acceleration from the consumer and their onboard activities in terms 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: of what they're spending on as well as they're planning. 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: What we did see a shift in is I think 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: people will probably being a little bit patient to understand 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: what it all meant. So we saw a rise and 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: close in demand, which also allowed us to raise prices 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: in the quarter and that resulted in the outperformance. 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: Got it. Got it? And could you give us a 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: comment on how your strategy to enter the luxury river 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: cruise segment is faring right now with your first vessel 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: planning to debut in twenty twenty seven. 71 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're really excited about it. I mean, ultimately, 72 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: what we're trying to do is keep our customer inside 73 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: of our ecosystem. We're doing that through our integrated loyalty programs. 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: We're doing that by better curating what our guests are 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: looking for, obviously establishing great trust with our guests by 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: delivering the vacation experience that we market and we promise 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: that that they're going to get, but we also realize 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: there's other vacation experiences that they look to do. And 79 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: one of those vacation experiences, which is not a substitute 80 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: for cruise, but it's an addition vacation they take is 81 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: on River, So we've added or we're adding River to 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: our portfolio through our celebrity brand. And ultimately the goal 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: is is how do we keep adding experiences, are having 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: experiences that meet our guests where they want to be 85 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: so they stay inside of our ecosystem. 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: All right, Jason, quick question here at the very end, 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: as we wrap up our conversation with you, talk a 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: little bit more about what you see among your customer 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: base that gives you confidence that they'll be building on 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: their spending in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. 91 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: So many of the CEOs we talk to say that 92 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: they want to get past twenty twenty five because of 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: all the headline risk and the uncertainty, and what they're 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: really looking forward to is twenty twenty six. You're in 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: a unique position because you have so much visitibility months 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: and sometimes even years down the line. 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, I like twenty twenty five. You know this is 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: going to be another year where we're going to have 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: thirty plus percent earnings per share growth, and of course, 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: at the same time, you know we're taking bookings for 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: next year. Right. One of the comments we made earlier 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: today is that when we look at our book position 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: for twenty five twenty six, we're in line with the 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: previous periods, but at higher rates. So what we see 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: is our guests are planning their vacation experiences into twenty 106 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: twenty six. They're willing to pay more money and they're 107 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: willing to act faster in order to ensure that they 108 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: have the vacation experience that they're looking for. So I 109 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: think we see a very healthy consumer as great jobs, 110 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: they've got good savings, and they're spending to ensure that 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: they're getting the vacation experience that they want. And that 112 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: has been the big shift over the past several years. 113 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: People want less stuff, they want more experiences, and fortunately 114 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: we're in the experience business. 115 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're in the perfect place to provide it. 116 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jason, really appreciate your taking the 117 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: time to speak with us. The CEO of Royal Caribbean, 118 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Jason Liberty, joining us from Miami