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Speaker 1: What is up everyone? You are listening to Stradio Lab

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Speaker 1: coming at you bi coastally what's.

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Speaker 2: Going on over there in the city of Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: would be okay.

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Speaker 1: God, nothing, ain't nothing going on here? Wait, I have something.

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Speaker 1: So you know how I complain about LA all the time,

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Speaker 1: that's of my whole thing. Sure, so that's my whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And I recently had my brother in law come stay

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Speaker 1: let's like show them LA. Like you know, obviously I

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Speaker 1: And when I say we had the greatest weekend start

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Speaker 1: it's because I was seeing it the someone else's eyes

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm laughing because when you said brother in law,

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Speaker 2: talking about one of Misha's gay brothers exactly. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: liked it. No, No, we took one of Misha's gay

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Speaker 1: brothers shout out, shout out to all around town. And

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Speaker 1: it was so fun and like, obviously it's like the

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Speaker 1: But the thing is when you're here for a weekend,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting seeing something through someone else's eyes. Of course.

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Speaker 2: I recently had this experience because I rewatched the film

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Speaker 1: No, I've always seen that film from a mother's perspective,

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Speaker 2: Do you I it's interesting seeing something through a mother's

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Speaker 1: Well the things first of all, yes, everything we do

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Speaker 2: Which, so you were actually you're talking about seeing something

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be hipster Ariel. Yes, Yeah, my mom was

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Speaker 2: You know, Sloan is one of the more powerful names

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Speaker 1: Think you know, Sloan to me, she is a detective,

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Speaker 3: And I love that. It's she's giving me, not I'm

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Speaker 2: I think she was based on you.

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Speaker 3: She might have, you know, I wouldn't even be surprised.

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Speaker 3: At this point. I'm missing quite a few credits in

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 3: So, Jessica, if you're out there, I know you're watching it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a new Peacock original starring Jessica Chesta.

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Speaker 2: You know I have just every month there's a new one.

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Speaker 2: There is always she's always in some propaganda film.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like she's I guess maybe I'm mostly

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Speaker 1: I have something to say. I think Jessica Chastain is

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Jessica is she Every time I see

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Speaker 2: And then she also was famously in The Help. Yes,

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Speaker 2: It's literally both of them, WHOA and I were both

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Speaker 2: Emma doesn't have social media famously, and honestly you should

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Speaker 2: What I don't get is being a casual used It's like, so, wait,

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Speaker 2: you are actually like a satisfied, financially secure accountant, you

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Speaker 1: Well, they have to volunteer at Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Well, and so that this actually brings me to something.

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Speaker 3: I know that there is a lot of well, people

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Speaker 3: going to lie. I feel like, particularly for men, particularly

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Speaker 3: You're boring and this is not your job. You work

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have to like watch clips of sports

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Speaker 3: the one that he'd get me on, where he only

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Speaker 3: And I was like, it is so funny. You're really

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Speaker 3: But I am going to disemvalue. Next time I see

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Speaker 1: to be honest, Like the clown makeup is like, that's

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Speaker 3: But well, and see it's a golf club, so like.

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Speaker 2: So because you're like, okay, let's not be disrespectful about

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Speaker 3: But no, the issue and the thing that happens is,

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Speaker 2: And here's a question for you. Are these beautiful trans

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, actually, can you play? Can you fucking play?

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, love game or some shit, but

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Speaker 3: you know, no it's And I also feel like to me,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like we're kind of allowed to

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Speaker 2: So okay, So goth club full of beautiful trans women

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Speaker 2: Oh, so that's what you're saying. So it's not that

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Speaker 2: It's that he's shirtless and he has a good body.

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Speaker 3: Well he's a cute paste too, because he that's the

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Speaker 3: like you're getting your giraffe legs, you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's just distasteful to follow. Like mass

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Speaker 1: and you have to like, like, sometimes I find myself,

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Speaker 1: fall hollow. But you can't do that. You have to

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Speaker 3: Because they talk about it, they talk to we talk

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Speaker 3: for various communities, for various different communities, it's a harmful

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Speaker 3: know each other and we'll tell each other about this stuff,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so it's like, girl,

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Speaker 3: I know half these bitches, and you're following with we're

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like weapons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, you guys should do weapons on him.

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Speaker 1: You should do weapons?

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Speaker 3: Do you guys want to know? Okay, I don't know

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Speaker 3: Me and my friends. Whenever a guy pisses one of

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Speaker 3: us off, we will occasionally be like should we do

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Speaker 3: the circle? And then we'll share his number with each

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Speaker 3: and then my god, block him. But that's kind of

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Speaker 3: like a fun way we found to break up with men.

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Speaker 3: Sure that's actually really toxic and that like, no, it's good.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's good. I think it's all.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: The mass following is interesting because it's like it on

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Speaker 2: that is almost designed to encourage that kind of behavior,

435
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: like when you gamify human relationships to that extent. It's like, yes,

436
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 2: it's his fault because he should have more emotional intelligence.

437
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 2: But it's also you're putting the own is suddenly on

438
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: the user to like define normal behavior, and what if

439
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 2: he's you know, it doesn't come naturally to him well,

440
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: And I.

441
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: Think the real issue comes in that the dmification of

442
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 3: like trying to hit a bitch up has really stripped.

443
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 3: I think like the allure of like anticipation, do you

444
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you meet someone at the club,

445
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 3: Because here's what would have happened. Here's what would have happened.

446
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 3: If he had never said into my DMS. I would

447
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: have been like, oh, yeah, that like guy with the

448
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: clown makeup and a nice body, like we were kind

449
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 3: of talking. He was so cute. I wonder if he's

450
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: gonna be there next week. But instead what happened is

451
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: within twenty four hours, I now know all the other

452
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: girls at the club, he's talked to. I know he

453
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: has a foot fetish. I know he's using a fake account,

454
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 3: and I know that he's kind of like, you know,

455
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 3: like the mystery has gone and I already know that

456
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 3: he wants me. So now it's not fun anymore. You know,

457
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: we've like fast forwarded to the end because at least

458
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: I feel like with out the DMS, like anytime you

459
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 3: if you meet someone at the club, they're going to

460
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: be weird and the sex is probably going to be bad,

461
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: and like you're probably going to not think very fondly

462
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: of it later, but you can draw that out and

463
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: have some mystique. And you just can't do that anymore,

464
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, and.

465
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Speaker 2: Have some longing so storytelling you're missing as a narrative, yes,

466
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: and also frankly use your imagination. Yeah, Like what technology

467
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: does is just like cut you cut to the chase.

468
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's kind of boring. You know.

469
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: Wait, I want this is like so perfectly leads into

470
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Speaker 2: our topic, but we first have to do our first segment. Sam, oh,

471
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: shall we do that?

472
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: Let's do our first segment. So our first segment is

473
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Speaker 1: called straight Shooters, And in this segment, going to ask

474
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Speaker 1: you a series of rapid fire questions basically this thing

475
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: or this other thing, and the only rule is you

476
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: can't ask any followup questions. You have to pick one

477
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: of those things and you can't ask any follow questions

478
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Speaker 1: or we will scream at you.

479
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Upset, I see, and I'm already I'm sensing you're

480
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: gonna ask a question, and I'm just telling you right

481
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: now you're gonna not want to do that. Okay. Okay.

482
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: Gucci Mane or ethel Caine Ale Caine, Okay.

483
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: Oppressient thought about gaze or a present bought from Cage Jewelers.

484
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: Could you say it again?

485
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: Oppression thought about gaze or a present bought from.

486
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Speaker 2: Cage Chris, I thought you were saying oppressed.

487
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was oppression for the gaze. Or oppression

488
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Speaker 3: thought about the gaze?

489
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Speaker 2: Okay, Shine bright like a diamond, or sit tight and

490
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: eat an almond.

491
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: Sits I mean almond?

492
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Speaker 1: Okay, live, laugh, love or move that bus, move that bus.

493
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Okay. Shoplifting from Sephora or regifting.

494
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: Okay. This one's a tough one in the sense that

495
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: it barely works. Being a kink positive or peeing in

496
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Speaker 1: sync on a whim.

497
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Speaker 3: You know what that's a toss up. I'm gonna say

498
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: kink positive.

499
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Midnight cowboy, big white sex toy or

500
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: shine bright queer joy?

501
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: Wow?

502
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: What was the first one, midnight cowboy?

503
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: And what was the second one?

504
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: Big white sex toy?

505
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: That one?

506
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: Okay? Calling a therapist a shrink or calling yourself a dink?

507
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh, calling a therapist a shrink?

508
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: Wowow Sokay. We rank all our guests performances on a

509
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 2: scale of zero to one thousand doves.

510
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: Doves, doves from.

511
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 2: The Lady Gaga song one thousand doves. You should know that.

512
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: From the golf club, damn it.

513
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, Well what am I getting? How many dogs?

514
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see. I do want to address you

515
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 2: know you did multiple times ask a question in the

516
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: form of a of asking us to repeat things. Sam,

517
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

518
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: Now that was a follow up question.

519
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: I guess. I guess you're right that. I I guess

520
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm letting you down me like this,

521
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 2: but I guess you are right that. It's not exactly

522
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: a follow up question. It is more of a sort

523
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 2: of clarification question. That's right, well, and to be and

524
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: I do like, I want to give you some extra

525
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 2: points for pushing back on on my criticism of your

526
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: question asking. So we're looking certainly, we're looking certainly above

527
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: an eight hundred.

528
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, what am I getting docked for?

529
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: Sam? Okay, calm down, Sam, What are you thinking.

530
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with eight hundred and fifty six doves?

531
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that's correct.

532
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: I really I actually would just love to know what

533
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: are the four doves you're taking that's keeping me from

534
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: eight sixty. That's really what I would like to know,

535
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: those specific four Sam.

536
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: So you know, I just think you were rushing a bit.

537
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, there there wasn't much luxuriating okay, and you

538
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: know this isn't work, This is play, and I think

539
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: it's really important to to, you know, just find a

540
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: really tasteful way to lounge in the game.

541
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: And I just want to say, hey, like you, I

542
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: would say your best moment by far, of course, was

543
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: interrupting me and saying shoplifting from sofor I mean, that's

544
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: classic sitcom acting. You were honestly being like Lisa Kudro

545
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: in that moment, in kind of like a clip from

546
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: Friends that would go viral, you know, and I really

547
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: loved that. And then when where you lost me was

548
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: I you know, I had that one that had three options,

549
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: and you as me to repeat two of them. Now

550
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: each time you ask me to repeat, I'm like, Okay,

551
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: a punchline is coming, A punchline is coming up, punchline

552
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: is coming. The then you just chose one.

553
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 3: Well, you know, so that and see that's where I'm

554
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: going to come back to you, Samantha. That was actually

555
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: where I was lingering on the question and considering my.

556
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: Oh think about interesting.

557
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: Very active imagination.

558
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: Don't even get me started.

559
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, in conclusion, you know you this is a very

560
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: good score, and I think you should be very proud

561
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: of yourself.

562
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm proud. I'm proud. But next time I'll be

563
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: coming for blood. And just know.

564
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: That we brought we brought some people down a peg before.

565
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're people.

566
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: We're not afraid of being people down a peg.

567
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: We're not, actually, and we need to do more the

568
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: world two of that.

569
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: Actually, the world needs a lot more of that, too many.

570
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: I agree. You know, people, young people these days are

571
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: such are so are so weak, and yeah, they care

572
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: so much about what language you used to.

573
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: It's actually kind of crazy. That's it's actually flipping now

574
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: like millennials are the ones that care too much about language,

575
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: and now it's going to be like gen Z's like,

576
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: why do old care so much about language?

577
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: We've become I in like the blink of an eye,

578
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: I have watched gen Z be like, actually we are

579
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: fucking evil again.

580
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: I know it has been.

581
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: Super weird, super weird.

582
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: It's been confusing.

583
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: It's confusing, but I'm also like, I'm like I might

584
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: not understand it, but I'm sort of like let them cook,

585
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: like it's not I think they they need to go through.

586
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: Nothing good will come out of me scolding a nineteen

587
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: year old, Like I actually do need them to make

588
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: their own decisions. And I know that the arc of

589
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: you know, whatever Martin Luther King.

590
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, you ever leave it there, whatever he said,

591
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm in.

592
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm into it.

593
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: The arc of history bends toward justice.

594
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. And in eighteen eighteen, I mean

595
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: I remember myself at that time and now seeing them

596
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: run around in the while, it's like, you actually can't.

597
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I think there's like a three

598
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: year gap where the brain stops taking an information. Yeah,

599
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: and it's just kind of like your job is to

600
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: drink prematurely.

601
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: And you have to do whippets.

602
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Do you know?

603
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: I was pressured into taking a whip at one time,

604
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: but the canister was empty and I just lied and

605
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: I was like, that was awesome. I put it back

606
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: on the table and walked away because I was truly

607
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: I was horrified. This was also, by the way, at

608
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: a goth club after party. Well, of course, yeah, don't

609
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: ever go to one of those genuinely ever.

610
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the idea of a goth club after

611
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: party in Dallas, Texas sounds like one of the most

612
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: interesting places to be.

613
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: All turn into orgies, and not an orgy that is

614
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: well organized, of course, which is really kind of where

615
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: my grithe is, you know what I mean. It's not

616
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: the orgy, it's where's the schedule?

617
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to bring a sort of militarist Jessica

618
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: chest stained vibe to the goth orgy. You want to say,

619
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: let's actually kind of sit down and figure out who's

620
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: going to be in that corner, who in that corner,

621
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: and how we're gonna and.

622
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: Where's there where's the drink station, like where canning Refreshman's?

623
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who are the liquor sponsors? Because it looks

624
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: like there's just a bunch of empty bottles here.

625
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: Right and I'm not drinking. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

626
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: Are not even working. We're giving each other literally just

627
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: whippets that are empty.

628
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and seriously, you guys, when are we all going

629
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: to come? Like, like, would you have to tell me

630
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: when we're all gonna come? Because if I come to earlier,

631
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: mine what's going on, because I'll do whatever. Just tell

632
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: just we need to organize, because I refuse to be

633
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: left out.

634
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: I know, God, you know, maybe that's the the dom

635
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: and me. I want to be the one running everything

636
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: and I don't like showing up and it's it's already

637
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: halfway and it's it's not good. It's like, well, there's

638
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: no fucking reason for me to be here.

639
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: The the only time I've done whippets was with a

640
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: group of gay guys and one straight guy, and he

641
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: I was like, so interesting, you're the one straight guy.

642
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: And he was obviously so hot to me, and not

643
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: because he was one straight guy, because he was hot

644
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: to me, and I kept being like, damn so hot.

645
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: I wish he wasn't straight. And then I kept telling

646
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: people that and like like within earshot of him, and

647
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: then he kept being like, I'm straight, I'm engaged to

648
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: a woman. And I was like, okay, and why are

649
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: you hanging out with a bunch of literally why are

650
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: you hanging out with the gig guys at like three am?

651
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Also get this? But five years later bye.

652
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and what is he currently? Is he still

653
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: with a woman?

654
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but but open him by he's back open?

655
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: Okay. See, I don't feel like that works for straight

656
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: I not to be hateful. I the only people that

657
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: I have actually known make open and open relationship work,

658
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: specifically an open relationship are old gay men that I

659
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: haven do that.

660
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: No, you're right, You're absolutely right. Okay, you have to

661
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: have lived through, sorry, the age crisis.

662
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: No, literally, though it's literally a different thing, Like we

663
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: are not the generation that could actually handle the type

664
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: of like who and n anny bullshit that people are

665
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: talking about doing with their fucking throubles nowadays. You had

666
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: to live through the AIDS crisis at the antique store

667
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: that I worked at, and I still cover shits for

668
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: him sometimes. My boss and his husband are the nastiest

669
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: old queens, Like I mean, evil, evil bitches, liver spots.

670
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: He's constantly getting shit removed at the dermatologists. I went

671
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: in there to cover a ship for remember, the first

672
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: time in like four months. The other day he's missing

673
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: a tooth. Now I think he's just going out back

674
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: and fighting people. They are never nice to each other,

675
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: and they're my favorite people on earth. Anytime, I'll show

676
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: him like a picture from an event and he'll be like,

677
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: I was doing Dragon this seventies and back then. You

678
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: are either a break fish and I'll just go back

679
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: to work, or no. What does he say? He says,

680
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know what it is. But I

681
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: remember one time he literally looked me up and down.

682
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: He goes back in my day, you had to be fish,

683
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: and then goes to his office and I was like,

684
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: and you know what it Let me go bleed mite,

685
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: let me go blend my face, excuse me.

686
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Excuse me. And then you came back and you made

687
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: your entrance.

688
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: I did, and I got more beautiful because he put

689
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: that heat on me every single day.

690
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: That's great, you know, pressure making diamonds, and that's why

691
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: what he did was good, right. I Actually I think

692
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: that's how if anyone's listening. If any HR departments like

693
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: that's how you should speak to your employees in an

694
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: inclusive way.

695
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Critique women's faces.

696
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. If you are a sixty year old

697
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: gay man, I will take that from you. If you're

698
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: fifty or under, though, I will stab you. That's you

699
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

700
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually true. That's true.

701
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: That's complex.

702
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: I do. I think if you were a drag queen

703
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: in the seventies in Texas, you can honestly hit me.

704
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't. You can do whatever you want. It's completely fine, girl.

705
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 3: You earned your stripes, you know.

706
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: Damn I love that.

707
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

708
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Have you considered pitching a reality show about you working

709
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: at an antique store run by two old queens who

710
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: were drag queens in the seventies in Texas?

711
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: You know? I feel like that would hit a little

712
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: close to home for me, so I haven't. But something

713
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: similar to that is actually actively being pitched right now,

714
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: not a reality show, but hopefully maybe sometime next year

715
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: you'll see that and say, oh, that bitch stole the

716
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: idea that I gave her on podcast and say something

717
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: horrible about you, and we can have Yeah. No, I'm

718
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: excited to have a big fight, like a nasty public

719
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: bee for attention for I'm coming for blood.

720
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: It's really going to be below the belt stuff. I'm

721
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: going to comment. I'm going to say, look at what

722
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: hipster Ario is saying now.

723
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: This knockoff mermaid, hookoff mermaid ass utterly perfect.

724
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Yeah, As you know, this podcast is about

725
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: straight culture, and everyone brings a straight topic and then

726
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: we discuss what's straight about it. So we would like

727
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: to extend the question to you, what is your straight

728
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: topic and what is straight about it?

729
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: I decided to be controversial today and I am going

730
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: to say that I think hookup culture is slowly being

731
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: sucked into the vacuum of straightness. I think that's where

732
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: the appropriation is happening now, I do, And.

733
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: I think this is really interesting because obviously the stereotype

734
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: would be like, you know, gay guys especially, it's like hookup, hookup, hookup,

735
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: hook U left and right left, right, left right. And

736
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: now you're saying that that straight people are taking our

737
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: techniques and utilizing them for their own sick and twisted.

738
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: Games very poorly.

739
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: So tell me, you know you're out there, you're dating,

740
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: you're on apps. What are you seeing?

741
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: Well, So I do have serious thoughts about this, but

742
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: it's kind of shocking because here's the thing. There was

743
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: there was a time. There was a time where if

744
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: you were a man, this is how your life would work.

745
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: You would meet a woman in your early twenties. She'd

746
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: be a SIS woman, and you would like lie to

747
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: her and be like, you're my princess, I'm going to

748
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: give you the world. We're gonna die together, and then

749
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: you would marry her, and then you would go pay

750
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: a trans woman to fuck you. And now it's like

751
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: men just go on Tinder and they kind of just

752
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: message all the women, regardless of genitals, something very like

753
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: strangely sexual, you know what I mean. It's like a

754
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: pickup line, like sometimes like a nasty pickup line is

755
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: like hot, but the way they do it, it does

756
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: feel like like they're trying to lure you into like

757
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: a saw trap and there's no offer of like I

758
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 3: don't know, like I almost often feel like CIS women

759
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: and trans women now in the dating game are kind

760
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: of getting dogged out in the same ways, and no

761
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 3: one's getting paid, and they're expecting a lot of things

762
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: for free and I think gay men have built a

763
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: beautiful hookup culture, and I'm so glad that like Sniffy's

764
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: is here, because Grinder is becoming weirdly romantic now and

765
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: so somewhere needs to be dirty, you know what I mean.

766
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 3: But sorry, this is kind of like a huge tangent.

767
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: No.

768
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: I think part of what you're saying is like hookup

769
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: culture with gay guys, there's a jois de vive in it,

770
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: or at its best. I mean, I do think now

771
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: with everyone like being on g and needing like fifteen

772
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: loads at all times, it is getting a little more

773
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: sort of optimized. But in the heyday, it was just like, okay,

774
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: everyone's talking. It's so fun. At any point you could

775
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: hook up with your friend, like at any point you

776
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: could look at a map and see who's around. But

777
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: no one is like copying and pasting the same thing

778
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: to fifteen.

779
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: People right well, And I think the issue too is

780
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: that there was a time where casual sex and now

781
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my serious hat on, there was a

782
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: time I think, like you know, I think pre twenty

783
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: tens in particular, like very early two thousands, and you

784
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: would see it a lot in like those like kind

785
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: of college comedy movies like really nasty, like drunk hookup

786
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: sex was really normal for straight people culturally, but that

787
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: was very much like from a man's perspective. And then

788
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: I think we kind of started, you know, like you know,

789
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: like leading up to like the me Too era. I

790
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: think kind of really hearing women say like, oh, this

791
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: isn't like good, this is like only good for the guys.

792
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: And then now I feel like we're kind of coming

793
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: full circle and people are being like, why aren't you

794
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: guys fucking anymore? And it's like, well, because do you

795
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: remember what happened the last time straight people tried to

796
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: regularly have casual sex. It doesn't work this there's no

797
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: history and it always ends up being weird, you know.

798
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: And now I feel like it's become easier than ever.

799
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: And they treat Tender like its grinder, like you you

800
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: don't get dates on Tinder? Do you guys know that?

801
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: No, So tell us more about that, because we've been

802
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: certainly out of the loop straight dating wise for a while,

803
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: and Tinder especially, I'm like I think of it as

804
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 2: like as like always fossilized in like twenty fifteen.

805
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's so it kind of should be.

806
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: But now you're saying it's changed. Now it's like the

807
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: men and is that why then people go to bumble,

808
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: which is like women message.

809
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: Yes, and it changed nothing. It changed absolutely nothing. So

810
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: how it works hinge Hinge is going to be men

811
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: who are slightly less attractive than you would like, Yeah,

812
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: but they are really sweet and they're kind of at

813
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: that perfect point of like, I still want to try,

814
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: but I am getting desperate, and so I am actually

815
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: going to treat you pretty well, at least for the

816
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: first couple of months.

817
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

818
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: So that's fun. Hinge is really cool to be do

819
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: me Tinder, Do you guys remember how there's a tab

820
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: on there that you could put what your relationship goals

821
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: are and one of those options is still figuring it out?

822
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: You remember that? So that is basically the Tinder straight

823
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: guy equivalent of the tab on Grinder that says yes

824
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 3: in all caps send NSFW picks.

825
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: That's what that got got it?

826
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's pretty much like you match with a

827
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: bunch of guys during the day and then your phone

828
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: literally shuts down at three am because they're all texting

829
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: me to come over, and it like you know, it's

830
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 3: fasoms out the the wires or whatever. It's evil. It's

831
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: really really strange to me.

832
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, does it Does it work? Like, are

833
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: these guys getting to hook up? Yeah?

834
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: I have to imagine they're not, because at this point

835
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: it's just cat calling. But on my phone, Oh do

836
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

837
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

838
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: Which, and I'm not like I'm not woke scolding them

839
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: like I'm not with them, and I because I I

840
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: like the attention. I'm trying to say that, you know,

841
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: but no, I haven't. I'm not going to your home

842
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: at three am? Do you know what I mean?

843
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: And are women doing that as well? Like are women

844
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: being like, come over, I'm it's two am.

845
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: No. Every time I matched with a woman, she we

846
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: never speak.

847
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: I speak, well, of course, that's sort of a class. Well,

848
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: I mean, are women like are you doing that to men?

849
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: Like our straight women or like male attracted women doing

850
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: that to men?

851
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: No, to be honest, I've been completely like I'm completely

852
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: pilled on the whole, like I'm not talking to you first,

853
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm not making any plans. And it's crazy because I

854
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: used to be very like actually like even if I

855
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: was with a man like it would be a queer relationship.

856
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: It's not like you make the plans, you tell me

857
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: where you're taking me, you text me that you miss me.

858
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that well. Also, well, straightman actually like

859
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: when you're mean to them, which is also kind of

860
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: the really unfortunate thing, you know, because I'm not I

861
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: mean girl, I think I've been very nice to both

862
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: of you this whole time.

863
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: You've been super nice, ye can say again, and then yeah,

864
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: the wanting. I see that dynamic in straight relationships a lot,

865
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: where the straight man wants the woman to be mean

866
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to him. It like, is this weird cycle where I'm like,

867
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: this is a bizarre form of foreplay where like the

868
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: man will like make mistakes and be like doofy, and

869
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: the woman will just fucking lose her shit at him,

870
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: and like that's just like that just means they're having

871
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: an amazing day and they're going to have sex later.

872
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: So here's the thing with that. I actually think, you know,

873
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: every relationship needs a certain level of passion. It's almost

874
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: like the fuel that keeps it going. And I think

875
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: for many straight couples they don't have access to positive

876
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: like positive valence, passion so the only passion they do

877
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: have is like negative passion and like fight based passion.

878
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: So it's like they're bickering or they're like, you know,

879
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: you imagine like sort of like a middle aged stray

880
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: couple that's super into like real estate or something all

881
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: of that. That's like the way they can the way

882
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: they can access passion, whereas, like, you know, it's like

883
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: for a for a gay couple, it's let's say, bring

884
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: someone into having a threesome, or for a lesbian couple,

885
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: it's like investing in a really complicated sex toy that

886
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: they read about. And so I do think that there

887
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: is something kind of complex and kinky happening with a

888
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: woman yelling at a man.

889
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: No, You're actually completely right, because what happens is that

890
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: all roads lead to makeup sex, which is objectively really good,

891
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: you know.

892
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: And the idea of makeup sex, if I may, is

893
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: a very like straight rom Colm type thing. It's like,

894
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: makeup sex is something that like girls in Sex and

895
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: the City would talk about at brunch. Is like, and

896
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: then I thought to myself, are we making it up

897
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: when we have makeup sex? Like that is what makeup

898
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: sex is. It's it's like it's like one of those

899
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: It's honestly something that Dakota Johnson will talk about a materialists, So.

900
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: We need a materialist sequel materialists too.

901
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: When can I ask you something case because okay, I

902
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: feel like we you mentioned me to then post me to.

903
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: There was this like era of almost like semi ironic

904
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: missandry of like all men suck blah blah. I do

905
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: think as a culture we are past that, Yeah, but

906
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: it's almost like nothing has replaced it. And yeah, what

907
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm seeing and this is anecdotal, and I'm seeing this

908
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: with like some of my single women friends. There's almost like,

909
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: in the same way that men are driven towards being

910
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: in cells, there's almost like an ironic celibus that I'm seeing.

911
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: It's almost like as a joke. Women are women I

912
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: know are saying they don't want to have sex.

913
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well, so I think there's a lot happening.

914
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: And I really, I really do think about this often.

915
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: I think I'm really fascinated by what is happening with

916
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: this line that I brought up earlier, the like young

917
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: people don't suck anymore. Yeah, I actually love that line,

918
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: and I think it's so funny because I think, like culturally,

919
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: like specifically, like a lot of the esthetics going on

920
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: right now and a lot of the music that's really

921
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: big in party scenes and kind of this whole. And

922
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: maybe I'm biased about this because I'm on substack, but

923
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: like the way that Substack princesses talk about the app

924
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: and writing and raining magna dum lam.

925
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: You know.

926
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: I think people my age, like like you know, like

927
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: early early to mid twenties, are kind of at this

928
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: point right now where they're realizing like our youth, Like

929
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 3: when I was like ten, eleven, twelve and internet calllture

930
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: was kind of really taking over the world, we all

931
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: had this conception that that was millennial culture, and it

932
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: really wasn't actually millennial culture at all. That was a

933
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: very specific subset of millennials online making content that mostly

934
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: children were consuming that ended up paving the way for

935
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 3: the mainstream And so we actually kind of really missed

936
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: a lot of real cool millennial cultural output. And now

937
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: they're like we're doing indie sleeves dance parties and at

938
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: the fucking like shitty club down the road totally, and

939
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 3: what is what does indie slees mean? Like, what are

940
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: you talking about when you say that, but that so

941
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: much of that stuff at the time, you know, it

942
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: was very like I feel like a lot of it,

943
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: Like musically in particular, it was very nihilistic. And that's why,

944
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: like the party culture was really cool, and especially when

945
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: we look back at like the hipsters taking cool pictures

946
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: on their iPhones with the CPIA filter, like, yeah, it's

947
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: cool because everybody was really fucked up and having crazy

948
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: sex and like nobody give a shit at anything at

949
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: those parties, and so I think they're kind of trying

950
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: to go back there. And I think Brat Summer was

951
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: like the really sexy, nasty brick on that road. That

952
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: confirmed it for me that people are kind of caught

953
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: right now between wanting like young people are very caught

954
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: between wanting to justify all of their stupid opinions politically somehow,

955
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: like every like you can't just hate anything or dislike

956
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: something or like something. You have to have like a

957
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: weirdly thought out, like political moral reason that you like

958
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: or don't like that thing. But then they also want

959
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: to like do cocaine and pass out in an alleyway

960
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 3: in like a ripped tank top with a union jack

961
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: on it, you know what I mean totally. I don't

962
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 3: know if that answers your question.

963
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm fascinating. Sorry, go ahead, Sam, Well

964
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: I doesn't.

965
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a very interesting journey because

966
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: I I see what you mean, Like, I think the

967
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: understanding millennial culture later is like a very real thing.

968
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: And I think like we, like millennials, we didn't do

969
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: like we didn't have like political reasons why we were

970
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: disliking things like or liking things. It was very like

971
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: surface level, like this is cool, this isn't cool. Yeah,

972
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like like because we weren't having like

973
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: so much online discussion, we didn't we weren't all like

974
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: a little bit scholars about things that we shouldn't have been.

975
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: Well, no one is now either, but it's like you're

976
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: expected to do this language thing, you know what I mean,

977
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: even for people who have no real politics at all.

978
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

979
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if I because on the one hand, yes, Sam,

980
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: like when we were in our Indie Slei's era, God,

981
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: when we were doing all that, yes, it was sort

982
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: of in a sense a political but also we did

983
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: invent being like friends is problematic.

984
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, you know, what I mean.

985
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: Like, we did pave the way for then, but.

986
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: I think that was I do think that was two

987
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: separate things, yes, And now I think the issue is

988
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 3: that people my age are like, I can do both,

989
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: and it's like, actually, you really are going to have

990
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: a hard time being the nihilistic party girl and the

991
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: bitch in a comment section like literally using buzzwords like

992
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: your therapist told you last week to score total another

993
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: bitch in another comment like, it's actually kind of difficult

994
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: to do both, you know what I mean. And so

995
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: I think that's why we get the weird like ironic

996
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: cell because you do want to fuck like you do.

997
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: I know, you want to fuck like crazy, but you

998
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: also want to be like celibate and you want to

999
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: like watch men die, and it's very confusing. I think

1000
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: there's just.

1001
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: A lot of okay, yes, and now you're bringing it

1002
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: back to like the celibacy thing. I do think and

1003
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: maybe what we're what all this is leading to is

1004
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: like this idea that young people aren't having sex. It's

1005
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: not quite that they're not having sex, it's that they

1006
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: are pulled in these two very different opposite directions and

1007
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: like haven't decided yet, So there are they have. Part

1008
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: of them is pulled to like just extreme promiscuity in

1009
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: a nihilistic way, and then the other part is pulled

1010
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: towards like trad celibacy.

1011
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I have something. I'm like, okay in

1012
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: the same way that you're the claim right now is

1013
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: that like straight people are claiming sort of gay hookup

1014
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: culture or trying to there's something about it, because like

1015
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: when we were gay in like twenty ten or whatever,

1016
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, well, that's one of the worst

1017
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: things you can be. So I'm like, I'm like, either

1018
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: not gonna do that or I'm gonna like be anonymous

1019
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: and insane. And so there was like this like push

1020
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: and pull of like, well, am I like cool indie,

1021
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: straight seeming guy, or am I like sucking like a

1022
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: theater guy's dick? Like which is it? And I feel

1023
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: like that's where like straight people are currently, like they're like,

1024
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: am I like scholar who hates men? Or am I

1025
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: like like indiesly slut?

1026
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: So really, no, you're absolutely right. Well, and I think

1027
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: that the big problem too is that once straight women,

1028
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: I think culturally kind of all were like we all

1029
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: publicly now know and accept and agree that drunk sets

1030
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: with a man like messy one off drunk sex with

1031
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: a man is not fun or good. You can't put

1032
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: that back in the box. And I think the fantasy

1033
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: of like, why isn't everyone at this party fucking right now?

1034
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: Like involves that creature not being released from the box. Yeah,

1035
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 3: when you're a straight person, do you know what I mean?

1036
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: And you can't really go back. But I think like

1037
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: everything is about nostalgia now in a really boring, like

1038
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: really fucking exhausting way. Everything is some kind of a

1039
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: nostalgia piece, and so it's hard to I think it's

1040
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: just hard for people to separate those ideas out. And

1041
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: I think that also kind of comes from like the

1042
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: way Internet language has evolved to just take like very

1043
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: strong words with very specific meanings to just be like

1044
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 3: argument fodder now, you know, like nothing really means anything,

1045
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: so they don't know what they're talking about.

1046
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: Yep. And every is a prompt. Every like everything you

1047
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: see is, whether it's a little clip of a talk

1048
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 2: show or a new song whatever, it is a prompt

1049
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: for an argument to happen, and no one actually cares

1050
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: about the specifics.

1051
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: Right, No, we're all arguing about Sabrina Carpenter.

1052
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1053
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: I don't even know what the album sounds like.

1054
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it. I haven't heard it.

1055
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: No one has, I believe, I don't think anyone has.

1056
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: She could be doing it, she could be rapping that

1057
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: whole track list, and I would not mow. No one will, Yeah,

1058
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: no one will know, no one will.

1059
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: This is interesting. It's it's always I feel both. It

1060
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: always feels so cathartic to sort of talk in such

1061
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: grand ways about like the culture now, and then I

1062
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: also feel like I zoom out and I'm like, damn,

1063
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: I bet I sound stupid.

1064
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: As fuck, but he's so really intelligent.

1065
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: But I love it. The nostalgia thing. I this is

1066
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: like not groundbreaking. But I was even watching like some

1067
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: of the VMA's clips this morning, and like the Dojakat performance,

1068
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, she is such a performer. Why

1069
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: is this eighties themed? Like, I'm like, I don't need

1070
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: you to be eighties.

1071
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: Can be mean? Am I allowed to be mean on you?

1072
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: Because I are so sweet?

1073
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: You've been really sweet, even an angel.

1074
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: I genuinely I saw her sit down for one interview

1075
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: for this album. I was like, bitch, I am turning off.

1076
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it with this fucking like Malibu realtor

1077
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: look she has going on. I cannot stand it. And

1078
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: I literally, I swear to God, if I see one

1079
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: more outfit on a red carpet that's like a reference

1080
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: to some look that Madonna passed out in in ninety four,

1081
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shoot myself. I'm so tired. I don't Why

1082
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: does I don't like that everything is a reference. I

1083
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: hate it.

1084
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: It's I literally do feel like I create. I'm hungry.

1085
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm hungry for something exciting.

1086
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: It doesn't even need to be like good, just no,

1087
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: something new, you know. I'm sorry. I know as she's

1088
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: very people are very back and forth about how they

1089
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: feel about her. I actually really love Meg and Stalter,

1090
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: like everything.

1091
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: She's kind of doing right now in all.

1092
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: Her little fashion moments and her very strange presence in

1093
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 3: her interviews, Like I kind of like when she makes

1094
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: jokes and they flatline really bad. Like I don't know,

1095
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 3: I like what she is doing, you know, just dressing

1096
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: up as different beverages. I think it's funny, you.

1097
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Know, I think you're right, Like, I actually it's funny.

1098
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: I hadn't considered that Meg is actually a unique figure

1099
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, and as she's really on the up

1100
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: and up, she's she's such an it girl, she's and

1101
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: then newly Lena Dunham show, it would be a great

1102
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: time for her to just behave and show up wearing

1103
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: like the dress that the brand sent her. And I

1104
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: actually do respect, I like I hadn't fully thought about this,

1105
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: Like I do actually respect that she's insisting on being

1106
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: literally more psychotic than ever.

1107
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really amazing, it's like genuinely brave.

1108
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: No, And it's like it to the point like it's

1109
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 3: actually like because her whole character, like I remember seeing

1110
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: her videos and a lot of her delivery is about

1111
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: it seeming like halted and stuttery, and so I can't

1112
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: almost help but feel like, particularly that one moment, I

1113
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: don't even know what talk show she was on, but

1114
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: she's screaming like get me out of here, talking about London.

1115
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: It was kind of like awkward, like it was yeah,

1116
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: and it was like actually kind of uncomfortable. But it's

1117
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: like I feel like you wanted that, and I kind

1118
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 3: of really respect that, Like it seems like she kind

1119
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: of craves not even like oh, everyone's in on the

1120
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: bit and so they're gonna laugh when I'm awkward, Like

1121
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: she's actually trying to make people feel a little uncomfortable. Yeah,

1122
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: and I really love that. I think it's really sucky.

1123
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: Actually I agree.

1124
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: It also is literally sorry but literally necessary in the

1125
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: talk show format because talk shows are so beyond stale.

1126
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: And I'm not like the first person to say that,

1127
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: but it's like, obviously, I you know, I think it's

1128
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: sad when one of them is canceled. I think it's

1129
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: sad when one of when, like you know, you notice

1130
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: people sort of like moving on from the format. I

1131
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: grew up on talk shows. I grew up loving like

1132
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: Conan and whoever else. But like, yeah, the reason people

1133
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: thought it was exciting to watch Letterman is because sometimes

1134
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: interesting things would happen. Yeah, that does not happen anymore

1135
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: every once in a while.

1136
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 3: No, after a lady got got showed up that lot

1137
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 3: of paper, it was kind of all downhill from there.

1138
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't know why she's I sound like a huge

1139
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: stand I have not listened to anything since what was

1140
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: the country one? I'm not gonna.

1141
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: Lie, Joanne, you didn't listen to CHROMATICA.

1142
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: A girl? Do you think you go in.

1143
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: So I'm the opposite of a Stan honest to god.

1144
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: The second that I don't like a single for an

1145
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 3: upcoming album, yeah at the door.

1146
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: I kind of love that. It's nice to be honest

1147
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: with people, like something about I feel that way a

1148
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: lot with like big franchises of like say Star Wars

1149
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: or something like. I'm like, if it is bad, I'm out,

1150
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: Like I can't make no loyalty.

1151
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: I might have no loyalty. No, it's and that's actually

1152
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: that's called respect.

1153
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: It's called rect artist.

1154
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: And if they produce something bad, then I'm not gonna

1155
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: listen to or watch that.

1156
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned. You are the girl at

1157
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: the water Burger, and if my order is incorrect, I

1158
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: will come back and order it again. So you know,

1159
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: like it's very simple. I'm not gonna say, well, I

1160
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: loved her work last week, so I can let it go.

1161
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit about the sandwich.

1162
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: I will say when it's when it's Lady Gaga, I

1163
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: will eat a rotten burger like anything she puts out.

1164
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: If it's like I just like have to consume it.

1165
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: It's I I don't know why, but.

1166
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: You do get hypnotized in this way.

1167
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, I have this sick and twisted game of like

1168
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: like basically coping, where if it's bad, I'm like, no, no, no,

1169
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: you don't get it. The bad is a commentary on

1170
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: good like bad, like I twist and turn and it's

1171
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: like for her, literally I do well.

1172
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: That is how I am with t a extent with Madonna.

1173
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: But oh you know, not anymore.

1174
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: When they pissed me off, I will literally at them

1175
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: on Twitter like I did not like this. I made

1176
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: one of that k Twigs for putting Northwest on her album.

1177
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: I said that was crazy.

1178
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: You're like, be better.

1179
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: I was, oh h that one girl that's been beefing

1180
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: with ARCA for years. I have added her multiple times.

1181
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: The other oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've added her.

1182
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: Everyone is always beefing with ARCA. I'm also like, okay,

1183
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: I obviously like from the beginning, you know, we were

1184
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: there in the trenches when ARCA first came out, like

1185
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: we were, you know, reading Pitchfork. You know you were,

1186
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: you were getting ready for pre K with your little

1187
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: with your little Mermaid backpack.

1188
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: So I you know, yeah, but now in the garden.

1189
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: But I have to say, now, I'm like I'm like,

1190
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm great, you know, she's grandfathered in. Like I will

1191
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: always say, if I have to, I'm at the polls

1192
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: and she's an option. I'm going to vote for Arca.

1193
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: But could I tell you anything she has released in

1194
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years. No, she's sort of to me,

1195
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: Arca is just that one photo of her that's sort

1196
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: of bionic totally.

1197
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: That's it.

1198
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people are just a photo. Yeah, well, and

1199
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: that's yeah. No, I here's my thing, here's my thing.

1200
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 3: If the Nexus swirls around Arca's head, I think it's

1201
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: fair to say that at the center of all that drama,

1202
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 3: it's probably Arca. But that's a doll, So I'm always

1203
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: going to back her up and well, and for me,

1204
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: it was like they've had this whole kitty kakat cat

1205
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: back and forth. But then she seb Deliza. She like

1206
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: got on TikTok with one of those like evil robot

1207
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: dogs as like a prop, and I was like, you're

1208
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: a corny ass bitch and you were making like really

1209
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: cool music in twenty fourteen, and now you're trying to

1210
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: bite the Regaton hand. It's not working for you, and

1211
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: you've got this fucking war machine on a leash in bedsty.

1212
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: You're a weird ass this and I commented that. I

1213
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: was like, something is wrong with you and you're beating

1214
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 3: with the doll. Who am I gonna side with the dolls?

1215
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: So amazing? Do we want to say anything final about say,

1216
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: hookup culture? I guess the one thing I want to

1217
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: say not okay, it's we love to go off topic

1218
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, we celebrate it. I'm just wondering just to

1219
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: wrap it up roughly, is like the thing with it

1220
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: is like I do wish. I do wish straight people

1221
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: could have tasteful hookup culture. Like I know, I agree

1222
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: that there's like something about it that just like does

1223
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: not work. But I feel I feel genuine empathy for

1224
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: for all sides where I'm like, if if there could

1225
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: be equality and then this would be so beautiful because

1226
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: I do think it's it can be so fun and

1227
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: such an easy way to have fun with people.

1228
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: I don't actually I love that. I don't think they

1229
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: should have access to that. I truly I think you

1230
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: have to figure out the sensuality first, do you know

1231
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, I think even like I am

1232
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: not going to sit here and say that before I transitioned,

1233
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: all the hookup sex I was having with gay guys

1234
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: was like beautiful and romantic and that we were talking

1235
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 3: about like queer history. No, I like I was, Yeah,

1236
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: it was like bros, you know what I mean. Like

1237
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: it was a lot of bad sex and some occasional

1238
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: really good sex.

1239
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: But much like the talk show format, Yeah, every once

1240
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: in a while, something exciting would happen.

1241
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, something would happen that I

1242
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to remember. Yeah, but with straight people like

1243
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: kind of actually literally what you were saying, like, we

1244
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: literally have to get into a cycle of like I'm

1245
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: yelling at you because you've been throwing pebbles at my

1246
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: head from across the couch for two hours and now

1247
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm pit and that's why we're about to go fuck

1248
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: so hard, Like and then you do that for twenty

1249
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: years and not to marriage, before you get a divorce,

1250
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 3: when your kid goes to college, Like it doesn't really

1251
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. And Yeah, so many straight men,

1252
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: I think they feel like they aren't getting the sex

1253
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: they deserve because oh women think I'm ugly and I'm

1254
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: not six feet tall, and it's because you have no swag.

1255
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 3: It's because the average man walking around at like prime

1256
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: fucking age, like you're in literally the world's in front

1257
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: of you. You have no real responsibilities, You have an

1258
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: okay job, like this is your time to be fucking

1259
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: and you're not because they like are so lame. I'm

1260
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: gonna give you guys, like a super dose of estrogen

1261
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: one day so we can all just hit the town

1262
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: together and you can see how bad the game is.

1263
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy, like we love to do that, so you

1264
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: to do that.

1265
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, de visiting the town is that You're gonna give

1266
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: us one super dose and then we're.

1267
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: Well and it will be like yeah, probably like a

1268
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: four hour like grisly painful trans sprow and all the HATI.

1269
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: Okay, it's sort of going to be like the substance.

1270
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: But for positioning.

1271
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that sounds like an amazing night the goth club.

1272
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: It's super dose and hit up the goth club.

1273
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah my god, I hope the clown guy doesn't follow you,

1274
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: but also sort of want him to.

1275
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 3: If you transition and look pretty, you probably.

1276
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: Will if challenge accepted.

1277
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's really it just comes down

1278
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: to like you can't wait, Like I think you have

1279
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: to figure out how to wait and to long and

1280
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: to tease. Yeah, I will email it to you guys

1281
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: at some point. There's this girl who does a lot

1282
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: of like very kind of serious monology videos on TikTok

1283
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: and she's been talking a lot about flirting lately and

1284
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: about how like flirting is the kind of the same

1285
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: muscle that you use to like play, pretend, and that's

1286
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: what makes you good at doing it. Is like the

1287
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: ability to play and not just with other people, but

1288
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: like with yourself and to kind of interact with the

1289
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: world from a playful standpoint. I don't know, like even

1290
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: on a grinder, sometimes I feel like there's still, like

1291
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there's like a even if

1292
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: there's a system in place, like there's a playfulness to it.

1293
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Speaker 3: And I think straight men they get it in their

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01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: mind and it's like it looks like they're watching porn.

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Speaker 2: Well, the playfulness is the playfulness is related to ego.

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: You have to put your ego aside to be playful,

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: because you have to risk being slightly humiliated or slightly

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01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: humbled or slightly misunderstood without it being a direct attack

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01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: on your entire being, like on your entire sense of

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01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: self worth. And I think I'm not saying, to be clear,

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01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: that all gay people are good at that, but I'm

1302
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: saying that's like and I'm not gonna know, but that

1303
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: is like an I think the people I know that

1304
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: are at their happiest being sort of promiscuous do have that,

1305
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: Like I think that's I think that is the secret basically.

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01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I completely agree, and I kind of have

1307
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: realized that. I think I just kind of flirt with

1308
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: everyone all the time, mm hmm. And it is a

1309
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: fun way of interacting with people, you know what I mean,

1310
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: Like it's I agree to do it. You know how

1311
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: It's like if you never see an ankle and then

1312
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: someone shows you their ankle, you're gonna get really hard.

1313
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 3: And so I think the same thing kind of happens

1314
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: if you like take out all of the like the shame,

1315
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 3: like the fear of being embarrassed, you know what I mean,

1316
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 3: and just like start flirting with everyone, not even like

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01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: with any intention, Like you should just be flirtatious, you

1318
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like the world just kind of

1319
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: opens up, you know.

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01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: It's like fun energy to bring into the world.

1321
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: And I actually think what you're saying is like, to

1322
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: be flirtatious without expectations is like goes against these sort

1323
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: of like optimization ethos of the apps, because you're not

1324
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: thinking in terms of cause and effect. You're not thinking, oh,

1325
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 2: I'm investing in flirting with this person to get sex

1326
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: in return. You're just actually having fun.

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you actually just have faith in that,

1329
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: it will lead to it's not that it will lead

1330
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: to sex, but it will lead to just like having

1331
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: a good time.

1332
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: Rights well yeah, and it's kind of guys, young guys

1333
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: at the club have just gone back to being pick

1334
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 3: up artists, and so now we're going to need pick

1335
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: up artists instructional videos because they're not doing lines anymore.

1336
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: They're just coming up And what most of them will

1337
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: do is they will not look at anyone else you're

1338
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: speaking to. They will interrupt you in the middle of

1339
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 3: a conversation and they'll go, I just want you to

1340
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: know I've been watching you from across the club for

1341
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: two hours now, and you're so beautiful and I would

1342
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: love if I could get all your import Like it's like,

1343
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 3: why would that work? And so now we need like

1344
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: more scammer guys to teach them how to do it right,

1345
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: and then we have to go through how that's not

1346
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: an ethical business practice and it's just like a whole

1347
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: thing we've already done.

1348
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: Well, we need to put the art back and pick

1349
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: up artist say that we do.

1350
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: Also, we do need to teach them what hung means

1351
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: definitively totally.

1352
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean the way that hung is just thrown around.

1353
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, words have meaning, right, the way.

1354
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: The word hung is just thrown around, the abbreviations. I'll

1355
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 3: see BWC and then I'll get the picture and I'm like,

1356
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: where where is it? You know what I mean. And

1357
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: that's also probably because there are now straight men on Grinder,

1358
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: because there's so many trans women on there, and so

1359
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: they don't really know what hung means. But hung means

1360
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: like it's going to be a problem with the weight

1361
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: women at the TSA. It does not mean slightly above average.

1362
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I want to throw that complain in

1363
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 3: there too.

1364
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful complaint.

1365
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1366
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: I am well. I think we have done an amazing job.

1367
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: I might agree.

1368
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if we answered any No, we answered

1369
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: all of the questions.

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: First of all, we asked. We asked amazing questions and

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: we answered them perfectly.

1372
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: This podcast is over or this is the season finale,

1373
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: and thank you everyone.

1374
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: For listening pretty much pretty much.

1375
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: I Jessica Tastin was so happy to be here today.

1376
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And you were amazing, you were.

1377
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: Amazing, Rosa, thank you. We have our final final segment

1378
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: and that is called shout Outs and and it we

1379
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio

1380
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: shout out, and we shout out to anything that we

1381
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: are enjoying. People, places, things, ideas, and we will think

1382
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: of the moss spot and I honestly first and George,

1383
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: I actually have one that I was talking.

1384
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: You have one, okay though, and I'll think of one

1385
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: as you're speaking.

1386
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: Okay, what's up freaks, lousers and perverts around the globe.

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01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: I want to give a huge shout out to Parverty Shallow.

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: That's right, past guest of this podcast, Parverty Shallow. I

1389
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: just watched Survivor Australia versus the World and Parvety was

1390
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: so deeply good at this fucking game. I'm I'm I've

1391
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: become a full on Survivor head as many know, and

1392
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: she is so confident, powerful, playful fun. I'm in awe

1393
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: of just how incredible one person can be at a

1394
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: game that is supposed to be like relatively random. She

1395
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: is a powerhouse. I want her to run the government.

1396
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: I want her in charge of everything. I'm like starstruck

1397
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: just from Afar. I'm just like, I can't believe someone

1398
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: is this powerful and not to mention, how the hell

1399
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: drop the workout. I'm trying to figure out how you

1400
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: can hold these like sit up positions for hours on

1401
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: end like you are like physically strong, emotionally strong. Gorgean

1402
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: this nice as hell. I love you, Parverty whoo who God.

1403
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: Remember when she started a group chat with us and

1404
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: then I was like, maybe this is gonna be like

1405
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: a lasting thing, but then we never were in touch again.

1406
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's okay. I mean she was just like

1407
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: the way that she plays. I knew. I was like,

1408
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, she needs us for the next vote, and

1409
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm in.

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: No, But I think she likes us though, and I

1411
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 2: actually like us. I'm gonna get back into.

1412
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 3: Group chats work too. Yeah for you to occasionally scroll

1413
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 3: down and look at it and be.

1414
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, okay, uh, what's up? Freaks and kinky perverts

1415
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: and everyone else, even the in cells and even the

1416
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 2: vole cells, You're all valid to me. I want to

1417
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: give a shout out to ordering the ice cream as

1418
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 2: dessert at the restaurant. So, when you're at a restaurant,

1419
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: you're seeing a dessert man, you're seeing a Tira missoux,

1420
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: you're seeing a chocolate moose, you're seeing a carrot cake,

1421
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: you're seeing potentially even a kind of artisanal doughnut. You

1422
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: want to order something that seems difficult to make, that's

1423
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: something you can't get at home. But guess what, what

1424
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: are you actually wanting. It's ice cream. You're wanting ice cream,

1425
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: So just order ice cream. Life is too short to

1426
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,520
Speaker 2: try to be fancy with it. And guess what. Oftentimes

1427
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: these places, if they're making a tear massoux, they're even

1428
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: making like a better ice cream than you would get

1429
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: at the local Hogandaws. So order that ice cream. It

1430
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: might be a sort of like crazy as flavor, or

1431
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: it might be a classic like chocolate hazel nut. It's

1432
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna be more creamy and more impactful than what you're

1433
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: gonna get at the store, and that's what you want anyway,

1434
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: So just go ahead and order by the way, not

1435
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: for nothing. It's going to be cheaper than the tresuit.

1436
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: So go ahead and order the ice cream, share it

1437
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: with your lover, and yeah, get a shot of espresso,

1438
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: and then go home and have anal sex.

1439
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: Right, yes, go whenever you are ready.

1440
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my gosh, what up? I'm gonna say, cooks

1441
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: and comeslots, That's what I'll say. I want to give

1442
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: a huge shout out to the BA restaurant that I'm

1443
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 3: actually about to go to right now with one of

1444
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 3: my favorite gay men on Earth. I have been taking

1445
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: really creepy men on dates there for the past few

1446
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 3: weeks as I've been experimenting with dating older and eyes

1447
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: and and you know what, none of them have judged me.

1448
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 3: None of you have looked at me weird. You guys

1449
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 3: have pretended like it's completely normal for me to be

1450
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 3: doing that. And I really appreciate you letting me do

1451
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: that in the nice the corner booth that I like,

1452
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: so that they know that I'm hiding them from the

1453
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: rest of the public, but never from you guys. I

1454
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 3: wish this was a joke. This is not a joke.

1455
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 3: This is something I've done three times now and I'm

1456
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: kind of waiting for you guys to ask if you

1457
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: know you're concerned about me bringing all these old men

1458
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: into the restaurant. But that's fine, thank you for not

1459
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: judging me, and I'll see you in like twenty minutes

1460
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 3: because I'm so.

1461
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: Who wow, you're really going to throw them off by

1462
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 2: bringing a presumably younger gig guy after they're used to

1463
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: you bringing older guys.

1464
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: Well and see this one. So most of the gay

1465
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: guys that I hang out with as friends are all

1466
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 3: kind of toppy, so you always think they're my boyfriend,

1467
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 3: which I love that too, you know, so just kind

1468
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 3: of confuse the nasis. They never they just think I'm

1469
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: a whore, you know, which is I love that you're.

1470
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: A kind of a fag hag with a type like

1471
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: you're like only tops.

1472
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no fans, no bottoms. Just sorry, sorry, Well it's

1473
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: not that it's that I twinks like little like the bottomy,

1474
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 3: like the little I don't I get into trouble with them,

1475
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: like those are the ones that I end up like,

1476
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm in a strange call. We're going seventy miles an hour.

1477
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what city I'm in. You know what

1478
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: I mean like, yeah, I don't know, they're riskier.

1479
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: They're risks and you need some. You're looking for stability.

1480
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where all of like bad girl culture has

1481
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: gone is too twink bottoms.

1482
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: It's totally they're insane. Those guys there that I got.

1483
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: Me and my top got invited to a penthouse the

1484
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: other day to watch twelve rich twinks fight each other.

1485
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was really like, that's not what

1486
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: they told us. But they were like, we're going to

1487
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: bring you back and make you martinis. And they did,

1488
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: and they just argued for three hours. Didn't offer me

1489
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: any cocaine or anything, not that I was going to ask,

1490
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 3: but I was like, I know, you have some. And

1491
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 3: then we just left and they didn't care. It was

1492
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: very weird.

1493
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: That sounds weird as hell. Well, I'm addicted to your life.

1494
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: It sounds amazing.

1495
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to book our flights soon and

1496
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: then you're going to take us out and I can't

1497
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: wait to go to the goth club.

1498
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh, you'll be so disappointed by this city. You're gonna

1499
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: love it.

1500
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Well, kay, please tell everyone where they can find you.

1501
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 3: Oh, you can find me everywhere you can find me

1502
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: on TikTok Instagram YouTube substack around the corner from your

1503
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: house looking in your windows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just look outside period.

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Speaker 1: Well this is a delight. Thanks for doing it.

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Speaker 3: It was really fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye, amazing bye podcast and now want more. Subscribe

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Speaker 2: to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month, discord

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Speaker 2: access and more by heading to patreon dot com. Slash

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Speaker 2: Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 1: Stradia Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 1: Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Created and hosted by George Severies and Sam Taggart.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Han Sony and Olivia Aguilar.

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Speaker 2: Co produced by by Wang, edited.

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Speaker 1: And engineered by Adam Avalos.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grugg.

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Speaker 1: Theme music by Ben Kling.