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Speaker 1: Oh hey, girly, nothing, just chilling with my microphone. How

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Speaker 1: are you? And what? Stupid bitch? Shut up? It's good.

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Speaker 1: How have you been? I've been bad? Oh that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about that. I'm like so angry at everyone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: name names, mm hmm m hm. I feel like everything,

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Speaker 1: like there is no respite from from everything because you

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Speaker 1: know how like normally you would go on let's say,

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Speaker 1: be taking a break. So we're kind of always in

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Speaker 1: a state of waiting, is what you're saying. We're we're

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Speaker 1: in line for life to start, right and but there,

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Speaker 1: but you can't see where what the line leads to, right,

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Speaker 1: but you're rather bad. Yeah, that that makes sense. Actually, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's just like this complete switching of what is

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Speaker 1: simply put, you're tired of this ship. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess if you want to cheap in it like that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could make more of a broader point about, um,

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Speaker 1: Of course, as as is always, you're the elite and

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Speaker 1: I am the people. Right interesting, yet you're the one

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Speaker 1: taking back the term lowest common denominator, I think it's

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Speaker 1: ahead about like power structure. No, I mean that's kind

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Speaker 1: of all I think. It was a pretty air tight thesis.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I am. How are you? Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Um, I'm fine. Are you gonna go public

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Speaker 1: month off of me, uh, kind of half defending Alice

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Speaker 1: I've decided to leave because I was like, wait, what

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Speaker 1: like I was doing this thing where I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think the listeners don't need to get scared. That

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Speaker 1: completely ignoring all CDC guidelines by moving by foot with

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Speaker 1: totally bring our guests. Okay, cool, that was great. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's all you. Okay, dear lab rats. That sucks, right, No,

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Speaker 1: Bowen yang hey, cheekas hey. Can I just chime in

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I feel like an Instagram comedian now because

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Speaker 1: that's the only outlet. But yeah, well we're all Instagram

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Speaker 1: comedians excepting a Twitter comedian. Like now, you know, now

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Speaker 1: we all know how to use zen Caster. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: pretty nifty? Yeah? Yeah, I mean we're all having to

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Speaker 1: use so much tech. I've complained about this already. I'm

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Speaker 1: drowning in tech. I'm drowning a tech. I was never

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Speaker 1: meant to do all this, But what can I do? Die? No,

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Speaker 1: not yet yet. I spent so much time, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: running away from the expectation that I should be a

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Speaker 1: person in tech coming from a household with two engineers

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Speaker 1: and yet now here I am being using a microphone.

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Speaker 1: What a beautiful assimilation story. Well it's horseshoe theory. But

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Speaker 1: for um, being a woman in tech? Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: I started as a woman in tech, then I became

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Speaker 1: a vomit artist, and now I'm a podcaster. A podcaster?

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Speaker 1: What's that thing where like that's really like a sad

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Speaker 1: statistic about like people can predict your like whole life

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Speaker 1: basically based on where you were born and stuff. That's like, um,

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Speaker 1: you George, they could predict that you plant into your computer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that doesn't actually account for the fact that some

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Speaker 1: people moved to Brooklyn, New York to be creatives. Creatives.

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Speaker 1: So are you guys thrilled for Pride season? Are you

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Speaker 1: getting on any cool campaigns? Can I say something? I

443
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Speaker 1: have not attended any of the queer um zoom parties,

444
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Speaker 1: and I know that I could be convinced, but I

445
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Speaker 1: cannot get over the humb of thinking that they of

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Speaker 1: thinking it's like it'll make me sadder. You know you're

447
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Speaker 1: you're afraid that they will make you sadder. I just

448
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Speaker 1: time like this is I will feel crazy, like dancing

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Speaker 1: alone in my room, but I just need to get

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Speaker 1: over it. You get into it a little bit, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's like I feel a little fake, but once

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Speaker 1: you're like, it's definitely just something to do. And if

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Speaker 1: we weren't, like, if we had other options, it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: exist because it's not as good as real life. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we had other options, a lot of

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Speaker 1: things would be different exactly. But like it does, uh

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Speaker 1: switch it up in the right way that you can

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Speaker 1: by the third time, by the third time ear ear

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Speaker 1: in one Um, it feels more normal and the same

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Speaker 1: way that like a zoom birthday was so unusual at

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Speaker 1: first and then and it was sad and it made

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Speaker 1: you yearn for the actual thing. Um, isn't crazy how

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Speaker 1: quickly all these things have become normalized. Like it's it's

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Speaker 1: wad Anyway. On that note, let's do our first segment.

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Speaker 1: Let's do our first segment. This. I feel like this

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Speaker 1: particular podcast talking about it while we make it, I

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Speaker 1: feel is more unhinged. I feel like we're going we're

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Speaker 1: really whipping back and forth between topics and concepts and

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Speaker 1: five stars. Yeah, well we're post concept also, Sam, you're

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Speaker 1: balancing your Mike on top of two cookbooks. One is

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Speaker 1: called The Modern Art Cookbook and one is called Cooking

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Speaker 1: with the Ladies. It's Misha's cookbook. Touch the stuff, okay, Bowen.

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Speaker 1: In our first segment, we asked you a series of

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Speaker 1: rapid fire questions to um kind of get your take

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Speaker 1: on various straight culture uh staples. So we're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you a series of A or B questions and you

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Speaker 1: have to just off the top of your head pick

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Speaker 1: one or the other. You are not allowed to ask

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Speaker 1: anything else or wonder how it works. And if you do,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get scolded, damn scalded or scolded. Oh I'm

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Speaker 1: getting both. Okay, we have someone waiting outside your door.

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Speaker 1: They'll break social scold you with burning um burning oil.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that's the temperature. Is a disinfectant for

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Speaker 1: for COVID. It's actually it's actually it's the vaccine. It's

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Speaker 1: the vaccine. It's a vaccine. Is being scalded with with oil. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that's why people aren't trying it, but they are testing

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Speaker 1: it out on rats and and the results are encouraging. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Um cool, Sam, So let's begin. I've never heard George

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Speaker 1: enthusiastically put his energy behind a single word. Then then

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Speaker 1: he just did now with cool beautiful. Okay, so like

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Speaker 1: and subscribe or rate and review, Like and subscribe. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: I think, I'm sorry. I've I've listened to the podcast before,

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Speaker 1: but this I'm picking up the straighter one of the two.

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Speaker 1: Really sounds like you have never listened to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you would come on here without doing

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Speaker 1: your home so unprofessional. When you know what, bone, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna pretend you never said that. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm really doing I'm putting on my listenership

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Speaker 1: drag very heavily right now. I'm gonna pretake. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, water under the water under the bridge? Look

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Speaker 1: at me, hot oil under the bridge. It's calling hot

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Speaker 1: oil under the bridge way. But can you can I can?

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Speaker 1: I can? I please clarify? Wait, I'm picking the straighter one.

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Speaker 1: What is it? I don't I didn't need to know that.

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Speaker 1: The parameter is the thing. If you were a listener,

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Speaker 1: you would know that. Every single time the guests asked

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Speaker 1: that question, every single time we get mad at them

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Speaker 1: and refuse to answer it. But you are under you

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Speaker 1: are Therefore I am absolutely overthinking it. Your obsession with paractors.

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Speaker 1: It's putting up walls where they don't need to be.

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Speaker 1: But you'll notice that I gave an answer before I

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Speaker 1: asked the question. What you're giving. What you're giving right

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Speaker 1: now is Pete Buddha, jedge energy. God, you're desperate for

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Speaker 1: this to be high school debate. It's a podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: a podcast, and it's funny to be Lincoln Douglas. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to be Lincoln Douglas Douglas. Okay, I thought extemporaneous. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I know, I just thought for some reason, I thought

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Speaker 1: you said I wanted to be Douglas like Hannah Gatsby's

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Speaker 1: latest special, which I can't wait to see. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be cool. Okay, so I can subscribe, subscribe, Okay,

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Speaker 1: calling someone Buddy, or calling someone Champ, calling someone Champ

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Speaker 1: Glacier freeze or riptide rush Glacier freeze. I I've never

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Speaker 1: heard of riptide rush. I'm sorry. Gender reveal party or

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Speaker 1: destination divorce, destination divorce, kick flip or He'll fit flip

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Speaker 1: kick flip. Okay, making your debut you as a woman

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Speaker 1: at a cotillion, or proving you're a man by participating

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Speaker 1: in a human centipede as part of a fraternity hazing

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Speaker 1: ritual Cotillion, call of duty or World of Warcraft. Uh,

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Speaker 1: call of duty, A precocious young girl named Harper or

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Speaker 1: a creepy little gay boy named Isaiah. Mm hm Harper,

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, Seth Rogan or Beethoven Seth Rogan offense or

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Speaker 1: defense defense. I'm also okay, okay, same? So, um, why

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Speaker 1: what was your thought process when you were picking those?

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Speaker 1: It was it was um like it was it was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm able stable masculinity not it was unthreatened masculinity. It

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Speaker 1: was um or not masculinity. It was unthreatened heato sexuality,

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Speaker 1: heterosexual masculinity. Does that make sense? So you're trying to

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Speaker 1: pick which one was straighter, and but also I was

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Speaker 1: trying to pick pick which one was straighter? But then

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Speaker 1: if like, so, let's so between Cotillion, So between making

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Speaker 1: your debut as a woman at Catillian or making your

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Speaker 1: debuts improving your man by human centipating as part of

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Speaker 1: a frat hazing, it felt like Catillion was more like

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Speaker 1: securely straight. It's like like bland, bland. Well, I feel

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Speaker 1: like you were trying to set an example for any

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Speaker 1: straight listeners, which I think is really powerful. Saying okay,

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Speaker 1: don't don't do the human sense exactly, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to do it feels first thought. If joined an acapella group,

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Speaker 1: Oh what are you so afraid of? Let your study?

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Speaker 1: So afraid of joining an acapella group? Honey, I came

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Speaker 1: from a high school. What do you think it's gonna happen? Honey?

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Speaker 1: I went to a high school with a lot of

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Speaker 1: straight male choir members and that is so cool, and

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00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: all of them are gay. Now, yes, here's the thing

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Speaker 1: from my high school. Wait, do we have to give

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Speaker 1: Boonen his score? Yes? And it is sixty okay, which

557
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Speaker 1: is a really good score. You okay, okay, everyone from

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Speaker 1: my high school, none of there's one other gay person,

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Speaker 1: like there's gun I know it is, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to say it. Oh, Bohen you know him too? Wait,

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Speaker 1: do I know what? Can we say his name? Can

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Speaker 1: we beleep it? No, we don't have to. Jeremy o'harris,

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Speaker 1: oh yes, I knew that. Um, but there's got to

564
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Speaker 1: be other gay people that went to my high school.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think there are other gay people other

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Speaker 1: than Jeremy o Harris globally globally, Well, I think he's

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Speaker 1: the only gay person in London right now. True. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine a gay person in London? It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. Yeah, you can't London to be gay. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't unless you're Jeremy. Yeah, of course, of course,

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Speaker 1: let's believe it. I don't know, do you guys have

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Speaker 1: any famous gaze that went to your high school or

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Speaker 1: where you were about to make a point? Yeah, you were?

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Speaker 1: I was, yeah, focus, Sorry it was I was in

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Speaker 1: a haze. I feel like I was in some sort

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Speaker 1: of Professor Trelawney type Hayes where I was about to

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Speaker 1: make a point but didn't even quite know it. Is

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Speaker 1: it bad to reference Harry Potter? Now? I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so good. I just on the offense today. I

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Speaker 1: think it's actually punk rock for us as gay sis

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Speaker 1: men to um reference turf works, you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. That's like the banker of of of literature,

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Speaker 1: of literature? Do you think on the wait? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we have Harry Potter, queer Eye and Hamilton's. Which one

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Speaker 1: is closer to banker or vomit artist? Uh? What's the

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Speaker 1: order Okay, so which one is closer to banker? Do

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00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: you think Harry Potter? I think I would agree Harry

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Speaker 1: Potter honestly though maybe queer maybe queer I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: or queer eye. Maybe they're tied. I think they're tied.

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00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: And then Hamilton's slightly more vomit artist. Great. Really glad

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Speaker 1: that I asked that question. What an insightful conversation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: not not a single queer person in Hamilton's, which is

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Speaker 1: the ironic thing. Well, okay, do you know what's crazy? I?

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Speaker 1: Um so today, uh, Larry Kramer passed away and I

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Speaker 1: was I was looking up like I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: was just kind of like people were posting things and

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Speaker 1: I was like I was like carrying up at certain things. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what hilarious turning this takes. No,

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Speaker 1: it is going to take a Larry Stern because, um,

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Speaker 1: I found this interview magazine thing, you know how they

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Speaker 1: have like two people interview each other, and the person

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Speaker 1: interviewing him was Ellen Barkin, which is it's because she

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Speaker 1: was in the Normal Heart and she wanted Tony Ford.

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Speaker 1: But but before remembering that, it was funny that like

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Speaker 1: that is who they chose Ellen Barkin interview Larry Kramer.

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Speaker 1: But there was one point where, and this is where

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Speaker 1: I'm going with this, where he basically, out of nowhere

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00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: starts shooting on Hamilton's. And it's because he thinks, and

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Speaker 1: I think many people do think this that Hamilton's was

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Speaker 1: gay with George Washington and he was like they did

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00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: that whole play, in that whole biography without mentioning that

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Speaker 1: he's gay. Interesting, And so now I'm wondering, like, is

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Speaker 1: that an element of this, Like at least Queer I,

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Speaker 1: like Harry Potter has no gay characters. Queer I does,

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Speaker 1: but they are all bankers and then dumbled or don't

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Speaker 1: forget you're doubled. Oh my god, your story. Yeah okay,

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Speaker 1: So so Harry Potter, it's like they exist but there,

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Speaker 1: but it's not public until years later where I they this,

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Speaker 1: but it's Karamo and then Hamilton's they like they refused

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Speaker 1: to grapple with our history. Yeah, okay, So those are

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Speaker 1: all different flavors of insidious sort of internalized homophobia. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're saying as the straightness, the straightness in

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's is so specific and it's so like it is

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Speaker 1: like high school horny, like theater romantic like in a

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Speaker 1: way that's like so like immediately I recognize it, and

626
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I immediately grossed out. And it's like that little stinker

627
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: guy who's like horny for like the girl and she's

628
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: like six three and he's you know, five too, and

629
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: it's like he's trying to impress her with singing, and

630
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: it's like this is disgusting. Like it's like all like

631
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: love is love is love is love, but that is disgusting,

632
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: Like that's what the vomit artist thinks of when she

633
00:38:53,400 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: wants to throw up. Wow, very good, very good. But

634
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: since then what do we land one? What's the most

635
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: vomits vomit arist? And what's the most banker? Harry Potter

636
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: is the most banker to me? Still, yeah, ceres actually

637
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: most vomit artists. Now I agree. I actually agree with

638
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: that because queer. I I know, we make fun of it,

639
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: but like I get its vomit artist potential. Yes, ye.

640
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: And then Hamilton's I guess Hamilton's is really the center

641
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: in this country, in this country, Hamilton Hamilton Hamilton's I

642
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: mean talk about vomit artists potential, I mean started at

643
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: the public. Yeah, you know, but but unfortunately, but unfortunately

644
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: it's it's Joe Biden. Sure, sure, so Larry Kramer is

645
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to immediately say that Larry Kramer is

646
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: vomit artist either, too obvious, Larry Kramer is Gwen Stefani. Yes,

647
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: makes none of this makes anything. I'm trying to think

648
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: of the graph, and it's like not linear at all.

649
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: It's kind of three D even with great dimensionally it's

650
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: like one of those YEA Infinity Rooms pumpkin with dots

651
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, it's a okay, it's a pumpkin with

652
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: dots on it. What's not clicking? It's not clicking? Wow, alright, cool,

653
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: well we figure that out. That was really when you

654
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about lakes. Yeah, my my my streets

655
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: culture was lake culture, which feels like feel feels like

656
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: diametrically opposite of like fire island culture. Let's say I

657
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: would say, I think you're right because lake culture implies

658
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: like motor vehicles. Yeah, there's a lot of like boating,

659
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: Like boating is essential for most lakes. It's not about

660
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: the beach. It implies freshwater. It implies fresh water, which

661
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: feels too santitis, which like it's like it's like not

662
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: like for some reason, like is dissonant with like how

663
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: like you know, irreverent gay people are who cares? You know? Yeah?

664
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: Well it's also I'm hearing so much technology. It's like cars, boats, uh,

665
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, space planes. So it's like the lakes are

666
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: all about like how can we dominate nature? Yes, oh yes, absolutely,

667
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: whereas the ocean. It's like, let's just let's enjoy this.

668
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's just chill. Maybe a couple of I don't know,

669
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: tons of plastic in here and just read a book.

670
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: A plastic in there. We don't need it, we don't

671
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: need it. Just and then just as much plastic as

672
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: you can and open your book and read my mysteries

673
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: I do. I mean technically we can go. Yeah, should

674
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: we go? Let's go now once before you go back

675
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: to to mish. I'm gonna I mean it's not warm

676
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: enough yet, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean

677
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: it's pretty warm, George. It's not warm enough like you have.

678
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: It's poor to god, I'm gonna come over there and

679
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: attack you with scalding oil. No, George, and not have

680
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: I scald your asked first look I'm an expert on

681
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: beaches and beach weather temperature. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, the

682
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: point being, the temperature is gonna be so much lower

683
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: because the water is still cold. That's true. You're right,

684
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: You're right, I am, but but you're right, like you know, um,

685
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: going back to George's point about lakes being uh, this

686
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: opportunity for man to like dominate and control at beaches.

687
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: It's like it's the ocean. You're not gonna win. Even

688
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: when there are things by a beach. It's almost as

689
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: though you're they're a testament to the power of nature

690
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: because they're so small compared to the giant ocean. Yes,

691
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: it's respectful that that, like like a boardwalk, is you know,

692
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: us to genuflecting at the might of the ocean. M

693
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: m m m mmm. Lakes are Yeah, there's something like

694
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: the privatization of lakes very literally preach on that. Come on.

695
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: There's something like no, I'm gonna own this section, like

696
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put houses up all. No one can get

697
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: in unless I have a house and my little dock

698
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: and my little boat and it's mine and it's my.

699
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: Lakes are entrepreneurship culture, yes, yes, which is the straightest

700
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: impossible thing you can be. And here's the thing with

701
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: with with beaches in the ocean, Like, it's like when

702
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: you go to Fire Island and now since the tides

703
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: are fucking rising, they're moving the houses further inland, Like

704
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: they're literally putting the houses on beams and sliding them

705
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: more inland. It's like that is a struggle narrative, and

706
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: that's inherent in the queer experience. I mean, it's like

707
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: a pride float. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding?

708
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I mean, pride is not canceled. We're picking up the

709
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: houses and we're moving them inland, and that's pride. So yeah,

710
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: But I like lakes though I've I've been to like

711
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: two summers ago. I went to my brother in law's

712
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: aunts and uncle's lake house, and I really enjoyed myself.

713
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: That actually brings up a really good point where lakes

714
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: are also very traditionally family oriented. Yes, it's always my

715
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: family's blank, my brother's sister's cousins blank, right right, right,

716
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: But I feel like, I mean, once once things sort

717
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: of stabilized, like is there is there a window there

718
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: for for queer people to sort of take over that space?

719
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love for in our in our

720
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: like forties, for us to be like, Okay, well let's go,

721
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: let's go up to George's lake house upstate by the fingers.

722
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: You know, I would love that. I would like to

723
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: hop in and say I would also love that. Can

724
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: I here's the thing with lake do you know what?

725
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: I here? Here's here's here's ever so slightly, I'm kind

726
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: of gonna punch a hole in this narrative. Oh, don't

727
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: don't lakes are also like radical fairy culture a little bit,

728
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, like I could also see like back to

729
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the Earth gays loving lakes. Yes, Wow, there's something very um.

730
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever read Faggots and and There and the Revolutions? Okay,

731
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because I literally put it in my

732
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: bleep cart today. Oh I'm totally I'm totally butchering the

733
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: title faggots in the and the and the between and

734
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: they're friends between revolutions. That's what it is. For the record,

735
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy it from bleep, but that's how

736
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: I track what I want. But go on, Okay, somebody

737
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: under he's edging Jeff Bezos. Someone's knocking at my door. Wow. Oh,

738
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: my god, Karama, I'm being made over. Congrats that's cute. Um.

739
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: I yes, it is radical fairy culture. I agree, it's

740
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: radical fairy culture. I don't want to explain why no, no, no,

741
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: we're not that will be against everything we said. No. Uh,

742
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: there's also something about like, and maybe this is wrong

743
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: of me. Lakes are very like Northeastern like, they're very

744
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: like camp culture to me, which is like like, uh,

745
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, teens hooking up with each other. Um, hierarchical

746
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: structures of power. There's counselors than their boss. They're bad

747
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: even if not you just you, you say, let me

748
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: take a dip. It's like, no, have you asked the

749
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: r A? Have you do? You have to ask you?

750
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: You have to ask the r A storm rules. Fish

751
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: aren't so prominent in lakes oceans. You could go a

752
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: whole day in a damn ocean without seeing a fish.

753
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Because here's here's what oceans are and queer oceans are

754
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: small shark carcasses. That's it's not fish, it's dried up

755
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: carcasses of sharks on Fire Island. Yeah, and then when

756
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: you go when you go deep enough into the ocean,

757
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: you get some more show stopping kind of like you know,

758
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: pop stars of fish, whereas in lakes it's like everyone's

759
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: just a worker. You know, when I first saw a

760
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: shark whale, I was gagged. I was gagging, I was

761
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I was throwing ones in twenties and tens. Ever, yep,

762
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: you're a local whale. Sharks, local whale carcass. Come on.

763
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: But yes, fish, I mean, fish are not pop stars.

764
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: Fish are a little you know, SoundCloud artists, and but

765
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: that's actually that's not fair because souncloud artists are queer.

766
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: They're right. Fish, fish are townies. Fish are like I

767
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: love like, we like work here. Uh now, yeah, fish

768
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: are rubes. Are weally like promoting kind of like urban

769
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: gay elitism. No, that just wanted if anything, Like, there's

770
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: something elitist about having a lakehouse which is not which

771
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: has not yet been a queer um it's not part

772
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: of the queer sort of dominion yet. Yeah, they haven't

773
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: even I mean think about how old money that is,

774
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: that it hasn't even been gentrified by gay people yet. Exactly.

775
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Such a good point, George, George, the Stanford is showing

776
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: sometimes I do have to whip it out. Okay, go

777
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: go off cheka. Okay, cool, wow, wow, I mean we

778
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: really that's crazy because I was actually quite poignant and

779
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: smart and well done. No, it was, it was, it was,

780
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: it was cool is it was really well research and

781
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: it was I have my I have my notepad right here,

782
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: and I'm flipping through my legal pad. Um, I have

783
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: a here's a lake tail that once happened to me.

784
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: Get this. I'm I'm at a lake. I'm tubing. Okay,

785
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm wearing Quicksilver board shorts, so put me there. I

786
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: get out of the tube. The ass of my quick

787
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: silver board shorts has totally been torn out. I'm askless,

788
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: and I'm with my parents, my siblings and the people

789
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: whose boat and house it is, and they're like kids

790
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: and parents. Wait, sorry, so did your board shorts fully

791
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: leave your body? They were on my body. Just the

792
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: ass was ripped out like a little hole, like a hole,

793
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: a big hole, a big when it ripped in the

794
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: middle so they could see your crack. It was. It

795
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: was literally a hole. Imagine where the goes. I used

796
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: to believe this because how how can you just go

797
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: for It has to start as a slit, well, maybe

798
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: wrestling sling. It's like those singlets that have the cutouts

799
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: for the ass. Yeah, so did it already have a cutout? No,

800
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: but somebody should definitely make quicks overboard cut out. That's

801
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: our first merch. I'm imagining you coming out and suddenly

802
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: there was a perfectly shaped rectangle that is showing off

803
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: your ass. I think I think the Gaga merch Sto

804
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: already has that. Sam just the spit Take, Sam's dying.

805
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: I've ever seen Sam Spittake before, and my years of

806
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: knowing him in a near decade of knowing him, Oh

807
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: my god, that was. Yeah, it was. It honestly was

808
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: like a perfect like like rectangular rip. People were there.

809
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: I'll believe it for the sake of the story. You

810
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: cannot imagine that happening. All the people were there and

811
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: like they were all having a blast, and I was

812
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: like a quiet of course they were. They were having

813
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: the time of their life. They were so and then

814
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: I like, um my, so my asses out and They're

815
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: like point out that my asses out, and I'm like,

816
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like give me a towel and I

817
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: wrap a towel around and then like everybody was like

818
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: why are you being so weird? Just like swim like,

819
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: be normal, and I was like, my ass is exposed.

820
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: I can't be normal, and they're like, it's just a

821
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: little cut, and I was like, my entire asses out.

822
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: It was an awful day at the lake. Needs. This

823
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: sounds like a Raymond Carver story. Now this sounds like, um,

824
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: this sounds like uh um, what the Flannery O'Connor story?

825
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Like Like, this sounds like Gia Talentino for boomers. Oh

826
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: my god, Sam, I'm so sorry that happened. Thank you?

827
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: How old are you? Um? That'll do it. Here's here's

828
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: here's here's the last thing I'll bring up about lakes.

829
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: There has never been a gay porn set at a

830
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: lake or a lakehouse. I challenge someone. You see that.

831
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: You see the damn beach porns all the time. Um,

832
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: there's never been a fresh water That's not true. There's

833
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: like waterfall gay porn, water sports, water sports. But I

834
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: feel like there I have not encountered a lake gay porn. Yeah, okay,

835
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: I'd like to issue the Bow and Yang challenge to

836
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: the listeners. If you can find a gay porn based

837
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: in a lake, please tweet at us. Um if you

838
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: send it, I will. I will then mow you ten dollars,

839
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: and and and if you can't find one, make one,

840
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: and and queer lake gay or lake gay porn, don't

841
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: be lake porn where all the actors are stradio lab listeners. Yes,

842
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: that is a future I want to live in. Yes,

843
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: that is the only thing that could break the cycle

844
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: of horseshoe theory. So do you guys have any notable

845
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: like lake tails or anything. Um, here's what I'll say

846
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: about lakes. Sorry ahead, no, no no, no, you got I had.

847
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: I had nothing. I I grew up going to the

848
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: beach so much. It was such a vital part of

849
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: my culture that lakes still freaked me out. Like the

850
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: idea that the water is just like full of not

851
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: going anywhere, Like it's just like whirling in its own filth, right,

852
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: that freaks me out. And somehow it manages to stay

853
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: like potable or whatever you know, or not even potable.

854
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: It's just like you could gulp this as you were

855
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: swimming and not be affected. And um, yeah, lakes, lakes are,

856
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: licks are are a little weird to me. There's still

857
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: an unknown quantity to me. I agreed in my adulthood beach,

858
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: I know what I'm getting lake. It's like every lakes different.

859
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: It's so hit or miss it is hit or miss. Yes,

860
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: and thank you for and thank you for liberating our

861
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: thought by saying that, Sam, thank you for putting it

862
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: into words. And that's that's the pub that's the public

863
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: school education, the public university education. Showing again it is

864
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, Sam, you remind me of fellow uv A

865
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: grad gall, the Tina Fey of the mid odds class. Yeah.

866
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: The fact that you guys are just armed and ready

867
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: with u v A alums is um, great alums, great alums.

868
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: No one talks about that. I was talking about that.

869
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. A lot of really great things are

870
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: happening there in Charlotte'sville. Yeah. Cool history and Charlotte's Chill. Chill,

871
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: chill history, chill, very recent history even yeah, very recent history. Chill.

872
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: Ancient history yeah, chill. Uh. Manicello ancient. Yeah, a lot

873
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: of the ancient history happened in Virginia. It's Monticello. It's

874
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: it's not it's mon Cello, charlottees Vill. Or is that Richmond, No,

875
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: it's that's Charlotte'sville, Charlotte'sville. Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, are we

876
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: lacking George a bit. No, there he is. We can

877
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: cut that out. Okay, sorry, no, leave it here. It's

878
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: a process, piece, it's a process. But when you're okay

879
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: editing right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'll just I'll just I'll

880
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: just sit with Premier for over if you don't mind

881
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: just editing it and then sending it back. Yes, logic, bro.

882
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: You know we're actually the only podcast that makes our

883
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: guests edit the episodes. And that's what it's cool because

884
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: it gives a specific flare and personality every episode. Wait,

885
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: can I say something so annoying? But I think if

886
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: it's really annoying, please don't like we really wants you know,

887
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm alienated so many people. I came up with the

888
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: stupidest pitch as someone else guaranteed has had this idea

889
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: a million times or a million differ people have had

890
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: this idea. But um, an animated show where the voice

891
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: actors and like draw themselves and animate themselves. Isn't that fun?

892
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like to issue the Bowen Yang challenge

893
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: to the listeners. If you've had this idea, Bowen will

894
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: venmo you ten dollars? I really will. Wow, we're giving

895
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: our listeners a lot of homework. If you're unable to

896
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: create a gay porn set in a lake, then the

897
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: least you could do is create a cartoon of yourself

898
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: and an animated making an original series. Yes, selling it,

899
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: h and selling it and sell it. You have to No,

900
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: we can't buy. I want to see the game line.

901
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: I want to see at HBO dot com emails. Um Oh,

902
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: I think that's an incredible idea. Thank you. It's not

903
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: that good. No, bow it's incredible. Don't beat yourself up.

904
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: This is this is where I'm at now, just with

905
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: with my creative brain. I'm just like, I think, I

906
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: think I've stumbled across something cool, and then I'm like

907
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: and then like three hours later I'll be like, that's

908
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: actually pretty hack and that's fine. Um, I'm just like

909
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: refamiliarizing with myself. Well, it's a comedy spiral, you' I'm Gwen,

910
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: You're going right now, You're full you. It's a it's

911
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: a straight line between Larry Kramer, Gwen Stefani and Bowen Yang.

912
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: I think they don't teach you that at you. No, No,

913
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: you gotta go to a private school for that, honey,

914
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I get in that headspace where I like,

915
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: I'll when I get in like a real deleting tweets

916
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: phase where I'm like everything I say sucks, then you

917
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: just kind of have to come to an acceptance of like,

918
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: maybe it does suck and that's okay. And I and

919
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: that's when I leave stuff up, because I in a

920
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: way where I'm like everything sucks and I'll just delete,

921
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, just let it be and move on. Also,

922
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: how many times have you read something by someone you

923
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: like and it has sucked and you're like, oh, well

924
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: they had a bad one. Sure, Sure, you're not like

925
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you're not gonna stop and and and you know, write

926
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: an article about it right right right. I'm trying to

927
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: think of a way to put flop into your name somehow,

928
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: but I can't my name. Yeah, Like, uh, it doesn't work.

929
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: So you're safe. So people can't tweet about how you

930
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: flopped now. But when floppyang, you just put flopping between

931
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: the creative mind. See I was I was at a

932
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: at stand still. I couldn't think of anything, and then

933
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: here comes to this beacon of creative hope. It's it's effortless.

934
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I I really, I really go back and forth between

935
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: feeling super inspired and then well that's yeah. I thought

936
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: you were gonna say, go back and forwards me and

937
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, self confident and feeling like um

938
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: like it like like like an idiot, like your garbage. Yeah,

939
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: that's what. Yes, And that's the ocean. It's the tide, darling. Wait,

940
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: you really hit the nail on the head. The reason

941
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: lakes are straight is because there's no tide exactly. It's stagnant.

942
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: It's being a towny. It's not moving, it's there's no

943
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: it's inertia. Literally, I mean there are you know, lakes.

944
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: It's like every drop of a lake has been there

945
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: for generations. It's and that is gross to think about.

946
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean rivers and streams go and flow

947
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: from and two lakes. It's not a bathtub. I'm sorry,

948
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm not trying to like I'm not obsessed

949
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: with lakes. I don't love lakes. I'm just saying like,

950
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: if we're gonna spread in its information like we need

951
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: to be know what we're doing. It's like no, no, no,

952
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: Like there are rivers, there are streams like coming and going,

953
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: but for like for it to be like a closed

954
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: system like a lake is that is that is very

955
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: that is antithetical to um queerness. But that's okay. Let's

956
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: let's do this um okay, let's let's match lakes, rivers,

957
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: the beach to um queer eye, Hamilton's and Harry Potter

958
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: wait bowen. That is actually such a good thing for

959
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: us to do, because we love taking three things and

960
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: then categorizing them. When Andrescovia was on, we had them

961
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: um uh categorize the three by men they dated that

962
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: month and to what their personalities would be if they

963
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: were three little points three by men in one month

964
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: on quarantine. That's so y, that's great. I mean, yeah,

965
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: we don't celebrate them enough. Okay, so we have river Wait,

966
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write this down, rivers, beaches and lakes, Okay,

967
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: rivers beaches and lakes beaches are beaches are oceanic beaches? Yes, yes,

968
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: thank you for clarifying. And then I guess, no, is

969
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: it okay? Is it better to do? I want? I

970
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: want I want it to be bodies of water, uh,

971
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: matched with either bankers, mom and artists or what I mean?

972
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: There was there wasn't a third with the Okay, So

973
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: then we then we got so we can do we

974
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: can do Harry Potter Hamilton's career. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Okay, okay,

975
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: lakes Well, we said the closest thing to Banker between

976
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: the three was Harry Potter was Harry Potter. Yeah, I

977
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: think lakes are. Yeah, lakes are Harry Potter. Likes Harry Potter. Yep, yep, yep,

978
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: very straight, very straight. And you there's there's a small

979
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: entry point for creep people to be like, Oh, isn't

980
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: it a wonderful sort of Joseph Campbell hero's tale about

981
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: struggling in the face of adversity or whatever, But it's

982
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: actually um stagnant and it doesn't it's a static thing. Yea, yeah, yeah,

983
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: that's that's my little take on it. Well, and definitely

984
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Queer Eyes Rivers because it's like sort of like the

985
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: conversation between the movement, and it's like only about the movement,

986
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: Like it's it's not even about sitting for a moment,

987
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: it's it's the journey, right exactly, And you think you're

988
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: getting somewhere, but the river just keeps going right. And

989
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: Hamilton's is oceans because it's too long. Oh my god. Wow,

990
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: that's so true. Yeah, that's so vast. I mean, are

991
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: we going to explore all of it? No? No, definitely

992
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna explore his homosexuality. Okay him, I will support you

993
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: if you pop off like this in the future. I

994
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: did the other day. Just look up there's a whole

995
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page dedicated to um Lincoln's alley the allegations that

996
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Lincoln was a homosexual. Yeah, and like, there's plenty of

997
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: evidence supporting both um both sides. I guess I don't

998
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: know love phrases like allegations and evidence around homosexuality. As

999
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: he said, he is in fact guilty of gay there's innocent.

1000
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: That's how these historians like talk that. That's the language

1001
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: that they use there, like allegedly he was gay. It's like,

1002
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is very telling. Who was the

1003
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: one who is like, definitely probably gay? Oh Hoover, Warren

1004
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: g Harding, No, it was Hoover was gay, right, right,

1005
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: He's the one that had the like He's like, yeah, no,

1006
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: he definitely was. I feel like, isn't that also addressed

1007
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: in the In the movie there was a wait, are

1008
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: we talking about Herbert Hoover or j Edgar Hoover? J

1009
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: Edgar Hoover. That's what Agres started the c I A. Yeah,

1010
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: he was. There was a biopic starring Leo DiCaprio with him. Yeah, yeah,

1011
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: j I think it was Hoover started the CIA because

1012
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: he wanted to suck dick undercover. Oh my god, you're

1013
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: my god. That's what CIA stands for, sucked dick. That

1014
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: was the gay rights win. Um well wait, um, it

1015
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: was Buchanan. James Buchanan was the allegedly gay president. Oh well,

1016
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: j Hoover. There's an ABC news dot go dot com

1017
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: health story that says j Edgrew Hoover gay or just

1018
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: a man who have sex with men? Oh, here we go. Also,

1019
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: I fact checked, I fact checked jed go Hoover was FBI,

1020
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: not CIA. He was so sorry that was yeah. You

1021
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: know what though, I thought he was c I A two.

1022
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: But no, that that makes sense that it was FBI. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um,

1023
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: it's not quantic. Oh it's um wherever the FBI is?

1024
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: Quantico U with Prianca, Yes, yeah, yes, wait, where's where's

1025
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: the FBI? It's um and it's it doesn't matter, it

1026
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I just now I'm just down this dumb

1027
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Of facts that I should know. Where is

1028
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: the FBI? Like, where is it? Where the headquarters? The

1029
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: headquarters is? Um? What's that place in Virginia that Langley? Yes,

1030
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: I was like Homeland, Homeland anyway, I was going Jason Borne, Yes, yes, yes, wow,

1031
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: it's very You guys should do like intelligence uma the

1032
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: government intelligence. We do, but we're not allowed to talk

1033
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: about them. Okay, okay, okay? Was this a total mass?

1034
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: How How am I doing as a guest? I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm all over the funk. I love that you're asking.

1036
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: That is so us. You know, you're literally already you

1037
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: were already doing such a good job. But then the

1038
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: fact that you think you're doing a bad job solidifies

1039
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: you are earlier. You really made me think like, oh

1040
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: bo and like doesn't listen to this podcast. He's like

1041
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: clearly lying to our faces. And then now I'm like, no,

1042
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: he's been listening the whole time. He's a huge fan.

1043
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: This is like this is I mean, you are you know?

1044
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: This is like Lady Gaga committing to Joe Calderone. Yes, yes,

1045
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: someone could drop dead beside her and she'd be like,

1046
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: oh who is this guy? Yes? Yes, she would not

1047
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: drop character Um, but that is all to say. I

1048
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: feel like you're you. You've done an incredible job. Thank

1049
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: you so much. Yes, go ahead, it is time to

1050
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: like do our last segment. Oh my god, wait it's

1051
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: one hour and fourteen minutes. Wow, it's crazy. I feel

1052
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: like this podcast has been so efficient. Does that make

1053
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: any sense? That makes a lot of sense. Okay, cool,

1054
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: that's a pretty strictful statement for sure. Okay, awesome. Then

1055
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: well then I guess what do you think? Wait? Sam,

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been so I've been I've been

1057
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: so alpha this episode. I really like. I like it.

1058
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: It's I love that. Okay, can but feel free to

1059
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: completely uh, just humiliate me if you want. If you

1060
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: think I'm doing something wrong, I love this alpha energy

1061
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: from George, and um, it's very it's very riveting, it's

1062
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: very compelling. I would have to agree. I feel like

1063
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: I've been sort of mousey and dare I say, scatter brained.

1064
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 1: I've been trying to throw out ideas and then being like, wait,

1065
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: that's stupid and I don't even believe it. So I'll

1066
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: tell you know. They're good. That's that's a that's a

1067
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: full creative mind. That's that's you just not caring, not

1068
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: self editing before you have the output. Wow, you know cool? Well,

1069
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: then I guess this is all of an incredible I

1070
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: would say, a raging success, a raging success, rock hard success.

1071
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: You know. I'm it's I'm in pain, um so bow.

1072
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: In our final segment, as you, of course know, is

1073
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: called it's called shoutouts. Um, we'd like to pay homage

1074
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: to the gorgeous tradition of straight culture and give a

1075
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: shout out to something that we're really loving. And um,

1076
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, the tone, of course is you got to

1077
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: imagine you're sort of at TRL times squares two thousand

1078
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: two and you're shouting out to you know, all your

1079
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: high school squad back home. Yeah, um, do you have one, Sam?

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I just thought of one, but

1081
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: I can go. I don't know. I have nothing prepared,

1082
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: but I just thought of one. Yeah, you go ahead, Okay, okay, ready, yeah, Hey, listeners,

1083
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to

1084
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: my super He has been promising that he would fix

1085
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: my window, which is indeed broken for six maybe months,

1086
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: And now that you think that's going on in my

1087
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: life is that my oven is broken. But I don't

1088
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: want anyone to come in because we're in the middle

1089
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: of a pandemic. So now I have a broken oven,

1090
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: a broken window, and a badass. I would love it

1091
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: if someone came to fix them. But I'm not going

1092
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: to add anyone in my apartment because I wasn't born

1093
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 1: yesterday and I know how it works. And so I

1094
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: would once again like to give a shout out to

1095
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: my super I'm not going to say his name because

1096
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: it's actually very rare name and would be recognizable, and

1097
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to get arrested or not fixing my

1098
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: window because in fact, I believe in restorative justice and

1099
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: think that he should be forced to listen to me

1100
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: read him a book if he wants to be published.

1101
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: And that is how I feel. Shout out to him. Um, okay, okay,

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: I'll go okay, okay, what's up, listeners. Um, I just

1103
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to summer. Whether

1104
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: on the horizon that is right pandemic or not, it

1105
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: is getting warm and I'm loving it. Sometimes I walk

1106
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: outside of my apartment and I know we're in a

1107
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: moment of absolute terror, not knowing anything, and I'll be like, well,

1108
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: I feel fine, right now, like the weather is doing

1109
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: that to me. The weather is making me feel I'll

1110
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: feel that summer breeze on on my supple skin and

1111
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, it's actually kind of

1112
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: funny that we're in a disaster right now and I

1113
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: feel joy because literally just the sunlight is touching my shoulders.

1114
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: I love summer. I love swimming. I love my friends,

1115
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: and I love my squad. Happy right to all who's

1116
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: celebrate and nothing but respect to those who don't where.

1117
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: I loved that. That was great. Um, Okay, I have something, Okay, okay,

1118
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: what's up, listeners. I just wanted to check in and

1119
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: shout out my new favorite thing, which is not so new,

1120
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: but it is the concept of having a billion streaming

1121
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: platforms that we all have to subscribe to. Yes, overcrusting.

1122
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: The market is so fun, it's so cool. Very we

1123
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: might as well stuffer even more as consumers by having

1124
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: to pay um the seventeen streaming service that we all

1125
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: are obligated to subscribe to because we all need to

1126
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: keep up with the latest fashion reality competition series. Um,

1127
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: it's very cool. I love that. Um. I am completely

1128
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: frozen by them. I'm paralyzed by the endless selection of

1129
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: things that I am being um marketed to to watch.

1130
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: And it's really cool. It is perfect for quarantine lifestyle

1131
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: because you're just stating inside all day. Anyway. Yeah, guy,

1132
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: I feel so good about this one. Me too. I

1133
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 1: feel like I did bad. I kind of stumbled, No,

1134
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: you were a great same I I lost the thread

1135
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. But whatever, Wait are you? Oh? Wait,

1136
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: are you talking about your shout out? Oh? I meant

1137
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: just like the I thought our shoutouts are great, but

1138
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: I meant the episode in general. I really joined it.

1139
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: I had a great time, no complaints shout outs. I

1140
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: do think mine was also bad. I'm glad we all agree.

1141
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: I feel like my I think my whole vibe was

1142
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: kind of weird. No you, I want to say that

1143
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: you two had great shout outs, and then I kind

1144
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: of felt self conscious about mine. But wow, what I

1145
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,879
Speaker 1: mean No, I think, God, what if we now completely

1146
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: ruined this episode? I think that could be cool. Yeah,

1147
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: I think that'd be great. Let's I mean, would that

1148
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: be vomit artist or bank? Oh? Like I was going

1149
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: to bring it back to that and assigned? Had each

1150
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: of the three of us assign each other? Oh? Fu.

1151
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the occupations Stefani Okay, yeah, oh that

1152
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: could get so this is a toxic quick. I think

1153
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm Gwen. You're Gwen? Yeahs, So you're

1154
01:12:52,200 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: bank I'm banker. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. And you

1155
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: know what to see? What's that quote from the Hours?

1156
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: To look life in the face and see it for

1157
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: what it is. Quote, you know, dot dot dot, get

1158
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: me out of this town. Yes, I'll remember from the Hours?

1159
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: Is as Um the guy falling out the window a

1160
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: talentino of of her generation? Yes, yeah, I think so. Finally,

1161
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: a Joan Didion for the eighteen hundreds? Was it the

1162
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds? I don't even know. Who knows, No one knows.

1163
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: Historians forgot. I didn't go. I didn't. You guys were

1164
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: both English majors, right, No, No, Weekly was that's kind

1165
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: of crazy? Did you say no, Sam? Why I said

1166
01:13:53,080 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: I was a you're a step major. Yeah? Yeah, you

1167
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: were a woman attack woman attack. Yeah, it was complicated.

1168
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: I was like my degree as a b S. But

1169
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: it was like an interrodisciplinary major. So I also took

1170
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: like humanities class. See that's funny because I'm I'm a

1171
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: b A in chemistry. I was not a b s.

1172
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: In chemistry. I was a bachelor, Yeah, because I took

1173
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: their own classes and I actually didn't care for it

1174
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: so well. I also by the end of Knocke. But

1175
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: but I did this degree that was like computer science, philosophy, psychology,

1176
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: and linguistics. That's so cool. Okay art again? Oh yeah, wow, Well,

1177
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: I think this has been an incredible app. I think, um,

1178
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna kick off everyone's Pride month with such

1179
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: a blast. Yeah, and I think they're gonna feel that

1180
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: cool splash of fresh water on their faces. And once again,

1181
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: let please send us your homemade porn set in a

1182
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: lake or you're I Made It series picked up by HBO,

1183
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: or whether you think you are Gwen Stefani, vomit artist

1184
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: or banker. And quick quick disclaimer, if you send us

1185
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: porn gay porn based in a pond, I will know

1186
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: the difference, So don't try to send us pond based porn.

1187
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking lakes to be three acres ish or bigger.

1188
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a pond. I don't want

1189
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: to see a pond. I don't want if if it's

1190
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: a marsh or a swamp, I'll be like this was

1191
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: filmed in Louisiana. I know the difference, and I know

1192
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: the difference. No, we don't need more swamp porn. No,

1193
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: there's plenty. It's over saturated. Artists did that plenty, all right, Okay, Well, Bowen,

1194
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: we'll send you the files and let us know when

1195
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: you're done editing. Okay,