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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. We are back with a

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Speaker 1: weekend recap. A lot of stuff happened college football NFL.

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Speaker 1: We have the Commissioner of college Football, Josh pay on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 3: There's too much bubbling in the college football world.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: Talk about games, we'll talk about teams, performances, everything else,

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Speaker 3: but there is a lot of talk about what's going

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Speaker 3: on the coaching world. So we had to have on

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Speaker 3: Listen you guys get a heavy dose of Willie C.

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Speaker 3: Taylor and Josh Pate on the Locker Room, which comes

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Speaker 3: out every Wednesday evening, where we kind of talk about

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Speaker 3: what our favorite picks are for the weekend. But this

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Speaker 3: feels like, you know, it feels like I had to

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Speaker 3: have it. Oh wait, economy vibes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that was actually mentioned on

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Speaker 1: the show. This last week was the eight yeah crash.

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Speaker 1: But this tonight we got a doubleheader. We got Bills

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Speaker 1: are headed to Atlanta to face the Falcons and the

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Speaker 1: Bears are up against the Washington Commanders. Hail Mary, game back.

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Speaker 1: We're coming back. So first things first, we cooked up

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Speaker 1: a little parlay for the Bills game. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen anytime touchdown, Bijon anytime down, Josh Allen plus

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Speaker 1: two fifty pass and run stats Bijeon plus one hundred

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Speaker 1: rushing yards. Now, you can ride with the boys, or

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Speaker 1: are gearing up for a rebound game against Pennix after

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Speaker 1: their loss last week, or you think the Commanders will

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Speaker 1: I like our parlay. I'm a fan of our. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a big Josh Allen goes off game.

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Speaker 4: It's one hundred rush plus receiving yards.

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Speaker 1: That's not what it says in the card. He said

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Speaker 1: it's one hundred rush plus receiving.

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Speaker 4: So that's even better for you to be one hundred

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Speaker 4: rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: It's rushing and receiving combined. This two fifty I think

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Speaker 1: that's okay, So that originally got back to I think

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Speaker 1: that's what it was perfect.

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Speaker 3: I know we'll touch on this when we get to

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Speaker 3: the locker room again Wednesday evenings. The Boys and Josh

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Speaker 3: Pate from on the bus with the Boys Channel. I

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Speaker 3: believe we collabsed with your channel last week blowing up,

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Speaker 3: blowing up, blowing up. But hey, four and one of

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Speaker 3: the big games. You boy, it was a little spicy

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Speaker 3: over the weekend and right now going in now, don't

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Speaker 3: want to Jinxon knock on wood right now going into Monday,

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Speaker 3: Monday Night Football, we talked about six games on the

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Speaker 3: NFL portion of the locker room Clay and Delaney. Right now,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting at four and O and I have a

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Speaker 3: confession for this is for all the boys, for everybody,

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Speaker 3: This for everybody, because this is on me. However, I

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Speaker 3: do think you guys, we'll understand because there at times

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Speaker 3: there are some solo missions on parlays that you have

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Speaker 3: to play and over the Sunday, I literally Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I saw an Instagram thing yesterday about this.

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Speaker 3: Bro here we go, but here's a parlay that's open

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Speaker 3: for me, and I'm glad we're talking about it because

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Speaker 3: this could be the jinx that makes it. Losing, I'll

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Speaker 3: feel much better. But if I win this have I

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Speaker 3: had an eight lake parlay plus eighteen hundred and it

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Speaker 3: was a Denver money line, Rams money line, Patriots money line,

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Speaker 3: Colt's money line, Seahawks money line, Tampa Bay money line,

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Speaker 3: Packers money line. And now I just need the commanders

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Speaker 3: to hit how much you put on it? One hundred

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Speaker 3: to win? Nineteen hundred?

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Speaker 1: What's about out right now?

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Speaker 3: Eleven eleven hundred and twenty seven dollars to cash out?

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Speaker 3: And would you I mean, I'm riding with it. I'm

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Speaker 3: for sure riding with it. Would you play now? Yesterday morning,

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Speaker 3: in the group chats. Sometimes there are parlays we just

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Speaker 3: do on our own. Like I'm thinking of myself. Am

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Speaker 3: I who I think I am? Because I've been a

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Speaker 3: little hot since I've shaved the head?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been hot.

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Speaker 2: So you have a solo mission text thread with yourself.

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Speaker 3: Hey buddy, you're rolling right now? Yeah, seeing the same shit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real, I happened just working, been working. Good

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Speaker 1: news for Will what was your what was there? College football?

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Speaker 3: Again? For and one four and one missed on Indiana,

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Speaker 3: which again apologies to the Indiana fans. I know it

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Speaker 3: went pretty hard last week because we got this little

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Speaker 3: Netti and a simple lol after the game with Big

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Speaker 3: Netti after and three sig emojis. Indiana's beaten some ass

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Speaker 3: right now, they're one of the best teams in college.

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Speaker 1: Fo Yeah, great for Will College even We'll come to

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Speaker 1: the rondo plus four and one now turn around. In

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Speaker 1: the way the Red River shootout was taking place, and

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Speaker 1: that Missouri Alabama game and Alabama's up ten. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: I said it on ESPN, don't be surprised if Alabama

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Speaker 1: wins this game by double digits. I felt really good

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Speaker 1: about that. We walk away, we get through the tunnel

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Speaker 1: and finally service arts popping up. Everyone just in their

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Speaker 1: Missouri loses by three. I'm literally trying to speak in

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Speaker 1: existence for the next forty five. I think the line

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Speaker 3: Bama's up ten right now, but Miszoo has the ball

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Speaker 3: We didn't get to see the ending of it. But

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Speaker 3: once they won, he's like, what was this spread on

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Speaker 3: the game? I was like three and a half. He's like,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, it was three.

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Speaker 2: You're totally sure. Here's the funny part. It's first off,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about, first off, wow, Alabama really needs this win. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: talking about you. I was talking about you. Thank got

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Speaker 2: him because you were the only one I knew that

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Speaker 2: said they're gonna pull away. It was one of those

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Speaker 2: including me, said I'm gonna take Alabama. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: really close. Though normally everyone's in Unison, something other than

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Speaker 2: what they're in Unison about happens. The game played out.

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Speaker 2: First off spread was three to three and a half,

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Speaker 2: total was fifty one. Final score was twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Everything about the game played out according to script.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, and anybody knew when we that was in

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Speaker 1: A and a half? To curse me, but I think

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Speaker 1: it was two and a half.

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Speaker 3: We get on the we get on the planes.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of myself because I've already gone through the games.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm I'm oh and four right now

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Speaker 1: going into Michigan, USC.

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Speaker 2: Actual fandl App tells you it was three and a half.

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Speaker 3: He pit them up.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I got to get up. I got a guy

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Speaker 2: here at stand outside the carnival righte who says he

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Speaker 2: swears it was too and a half. Yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 3: On the planet, he genuinely asked again out loud. And

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Speaker 3: I'm just kind of jukling to myself, like he can't

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Speaker 3: take this loss right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't take it because I'm thinking of myself

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Speaker 1: at the very least win one. Yeah, because I've I've

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Speaker 1: and I know it and I feel it, and I

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Speaker 1: know it's gonna come. But when it's actually happening, You're like,

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Speaker 1: I really didn't prepare for it. I just said the words.

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Speaker 1: I didn't emotionally prepare for this loss that I was about.

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Speaker 3: You're going for going into Michigan, USC which what we

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Speaker 1: The locker room, I think if you look that back,

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Speaker 1: you could I'm nervous. I even say, like I'm nervous

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Speaker 1: with this game, Like they match up really well with us.

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Speaker 1: What they do well is what we don't do well,

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Speaker 1: and vice versa. But I thought, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, like toughness is gonna win. And I was right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was right. Toughness.

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Speaker 3: Toughness the tougher.

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Speaker 1: As much as I want to sit here and beat

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Speaker 1: so prideful in Michigan is like when the back's against

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Speaker 1: the wall, they scratch and claw and fight and you're

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Speaker 1: being missing a limb broken, like you're gonna have you're

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Speaker 1: gonna beat up when you play Michigan. And that game,

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Speaker 1: we had our guys getting hurt. Their guys are celebrating

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Speaker 1: on the sideline in the fourth quarter. They run for

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Speaker 1: what was it, two and twenty five yards.

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Speaker 2: Over five yards per carry, over five yards per carry.

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Speaker 1: And that's not with their starting running back in the

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Speaker 1: second in the Big ten. Now that that's not with

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Speaker 1: their second string bag that's what they walk on running

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Speaker 1: back and the mistackles. So yeah, we got our ass beat.

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Speaker 3: Good news.

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Speaker 4: Ro oh.

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Speaker 1: No, this week and I'll be I told JP this

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Speaker 1: before we started. I'll be putting a two leg parlay together.

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Speaker 1: It's a two little it'll be Michigan money line in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina money line. Because we're in October right now, Baby,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get it done.

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Speaker 3: I think, don't you guys have a buye?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: We play Washington this week? Yeah, this week and yeah, five.

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Speaker 3: Opened up at five and a half before Washington open.

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Speaker 1: Up at five and a half point favorite in the

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Speaker 1: Big House.

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Speaker 2: In the Big House, Washington got down twenty one to

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Speaker 3: I know twenty four in the fourth quarter to win.

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Speaker 3: Washington is a tough team, Like the only team they've

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Speaker 3: lost to is Owaha State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they do really well? Throw the ball? Well,

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Speaker 1: they got a good running back, they do rpo, they

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Speaker 1: When when I'm watching that game, there's so many things

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't very impressive that USC did what they did.

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Speaker 1: everyone's healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to be very clear, So when we're

437
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Speaker 2: talking about this like, I think a lot of this

438
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Speaker 2: is insane. I thought it was crazy the way they

439
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Speaker 2: were talking about Ryan Day last year. I learned it

440
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what I think, because I learned I'm not

441
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Speaker 2: making decisions in these athletic departments. And in some cases

442
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 2: boosters are, in other cases administrators are. So what I

443
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Speaker 2: learned to do is just echo the reality. The reality,

444
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Speaker 2: regardless of whether I like it or not, is there's

445
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Speaker 2: gonna be a ton of noise around him. But they

446
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,280
Speaker 2: don't win Saturday, and if they don't keep on winning,

447
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Speaker 2: like I think eight and four puts them on very

448
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 2: thin ice with hot blades, and they're a two loss

449
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Speaker 2: team right now.

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Speaker 1: And here here's let's let's go down the world. Can

451
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Speaker 1: you actually pull up? What was I going to say

452
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Speaker 1: to pull up? I forget what it was you mentioned something. Anyway,

453
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Speaker 1: I started going down the avenue of like, okay, what's

454
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Speaker 1: our well, it's our recruiting class. Look like, what kind

455
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Speaker 1: of things do we need where we're top ten recruiting class? Yep,

456
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of key freshman sophomore guys that

457
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Speaker 1: are playing already that are showing a lot of like,

458
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Speaker 1: oh hey, we got some guys coming up. What happens

459
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Speaker 1: and you got Bryce Underwood, and you got Bryce Underwood.

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Speaker 1: What happens if that staff isn't there next year?

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Speaker 2: Okay, remember this, So two things are happening. Firstly, Michigan

462
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Speaker 2: recruits itself. That's the first thing they're banking on. That

463
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Speaker 2: rather Yeah, that Michigan recruits itself. Guys are there for Michigan,

464
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Speaker 2: not for one coach, whether that's real or not. That's

465
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Speaker 2: what they're banking on. Number two, the rule just changed

466
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Speaker 2: in the NCAA. It was up until about five minutes ago.

467
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Speaker 2: If your coach gets fired, your entire roster can enter

468
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Speaker 2: the portal for the next thirty days and your class

469
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Speaker 2: falls apart and whatever. Now the rule for your roster

470
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Speaker 2: is you got to wait till the next coach is hired,

471
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Speaker 2: which may or may not be legal, but that's the

472
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Speaker 2: rule right now. So your roster's not going to immediately evaporate.

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Speaker 2: Number two, Michigan is very very well bankrolled, So I

474
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Speaker 2: think before they ever made a move, in a hypothetical

475
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Speaker 2: alternate universe where they made a coach move, I think

476
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Speaker 2: they would proactively make sure all their guys are locked

477
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Speaker 2: up and taking care of financially roster wise before they

478
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Speaker 2: ever touched the coaching staff. So I don't really see

479
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Speaker 2: this cataclysmic falling apart of the recruiting class falling a

480
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Speaker 2: part of the roster unless guys are just so loyal

481
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Speaker 2: to your current head coach. This goes for anyone unless

482
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Speaker 2: they're just so loyal that they want to make a statement, Yeah,

483
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Speaker 2: you fired my guy. That's why I was here. I'm out.

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Speaker 2: Some of that may happen with Penn State. I don't

485
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Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen with Penn State's roster.

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Speaker 1: You see the I think Penn State had like the

487
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Speaker 1: number two running back. Yeah, I thought that header kid

488
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Speaker 1: was the number one running back. Got you twenty twenty

489
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Speaker 1: seven running back? I think even before the game, he's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent committed to Penn State anymore.

491
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Speaker 1: After James Frainer gets fired, he's now decommitted from Penn State.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean there's a lot of things that happened,

493
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Speaker 1: just other than a head coach decides or a program

494
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Speaker 1: besides the firehead coach. All these kids are looking at

495
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Speaker 1: that and like, Okay, I want stability in my life.

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Speaker 1: One thing you do like I didn't realize that's so

497
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Speaker 1: important when I was going to college. Is like, is

498
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Speaker 1: the head coach going to be there for all four years?

499
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Speaker 1: When you were there, I had to go through two coaches.

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Speaker 1: You were able to play your whole career with one coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of recruits are pretty I guess. Look,

502
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Speaker 3: I speak for myself, like I committed mainly to the

503
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Speaker 3: coaching staff. I feel like a lot of recruits basically

504
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Speaker 3: commit to the coaching staff. I know everybody says, like,

505
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Speaker 3: pick the school, pick the school, and that could be

506
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Speaker 3: great advice, but I feel like you just get caught

507
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Speaker 3: up in your relationships with the staff. You want them

508
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Speaker 3: to be there the whole time. So when somebody when

509
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Speaker 3: they leave, if they leave, make either lateral move or

510
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Speaker 3: get fired or whatever. I feel like that kind of

511
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Speaker 3: affects the roster. What do you see happening? We have

512
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Speaker 3: a tier talk here from Jared Ladd hashtag tear talk.

513
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Speaker 3: Where does Franklin go from here? Part of me seeing

514
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Speaker 3: like I've just been in the Nebraska world. But it's

515
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: happened at Auburn, it's happened at Florida. But when Nebraska

516
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Speaker 3: fired Polini because they're so fed up with nine ten

517
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Speaker 3: win seasons. Then you just see the decade downturn of

518
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Speaker 3: what Nebraska and the fans and the world has had

519
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Speaker 3: to go through since firing Bo Polini. Where do you

520
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Speaker 3: think think Franklin goes from here? What do you think

521
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Speaker 3: it means for Penn State? Do you think Penn State

522
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Speaker 3: is gonna hit when they get this next head coach,

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Speaker 3: whoever it may be.

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Speaker 2: If I were him, you wouldn't see me for either

525
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't see me for two years or I'd go

526
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Speaker 2: do TV. Because I've got a theory on this. Like

527
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Speaker 2: my theory is, I think when you're fired, if you're

528
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Speaker 2: fired as a head coach right now, James Franklin, for example,

529
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Speaker 2: very high profile coach. Okay, so been very successful up

530
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Speaker 2: until the last two weeks, basically been very successful. Dan

531
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Speaker 2: Mullen got fired at Florida. Dan Mullen did it right.

532
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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen went and sat on TV for a few years,

533
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Speaker 2: and you're just a genius on TV. You get to

534
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Speaker 2: be the one who second guesses, You get to be

535
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Speaker 2: the one who doesn't have to make the call and

536
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Speaker 2: live with the consequences. You just get to commentate. You

537
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Speaker 2: get to do what we do all the time. All

538
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Speaker 2: coaches sound like geniuses on TV. All coaches stocks go

539
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Speaker 2: up on TV. Go sit on TV. You're making buyout

540
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: money anyway, they're gonna have to pay you fifty plus

541
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Speaker 2: million dollars. See your family go sit on a beach

542
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Speaker 2: every now and then. But also what you do privately,

543
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, is you circulate sort of your James

544
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Speaker 2: Franklin two point zero plan, or here are the lessons

545
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Speaker 2: I learned, Here's why it went sideways at Penn State.

546
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Speaker 2: Here's how I'm going to acclimate to the new landscape

547
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Speaker 2: of college football. If you hire me, here's who i'd hire,

548
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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Then you wait and you select the

549
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Speaker 2: on ramp back to coaching. That's what I would do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to do that. Everything I've

551
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Speaker 2: heard is he's looking to get right back into coaching,

552
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Speaker 2: like maybe the UCLA job for example.

553
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Speaker 1: Maybe he looks at that, he says, taken.

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Speaker 2: That's actually true. Job looks okay, right, Yeah.

555
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Speaker 1: I think, well, yeah, I'll get that.

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Speaker 3: I'm confident. Look, if everybody else is on board with it,

557
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Speaker 3: is that.

558
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Speaker 2: A state college area code.

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Speaker 3: If the entire college football world's on board with it.

560
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Speaker 3: I'm good with UCLA just being two to zero and

561
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Speaker 3: they've just had they had they get to reset their

562
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Speaker 3: season with this interim head coach because they've been on

563
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Speaker 3: fire just these last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I can get on that. I think

565
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Speaker 1: you say it might have to be ranked now they're

566
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Speaker 1: undefeated team.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're undefeated right now with him, with him as

568
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Speaker 3: a head coach.

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Speaker 2: They are what I needed South Carolina to be. It's

570
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Speaker 2: BRIT's brewin Tober. It's not October right now, it's brewin Tober.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then again, Oklahoma comes to town Saturday, so let's see

573
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Speaker 2: anyway money line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oklahoma money line this week? Oh sorry, except for

575
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Speaker 1: lying them. Yeah, my fault, my fault, my fault.

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting.

578
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Speaker 3: But also for Penn State fans celebrating this in such

579
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Speaker 3: a way, do you feel like.

580
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Speaker 2: I don't believe Greener? Yeah, I get it though.

581
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Speaker 3: That's where I sit there and think, like I had

582
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Speaker 3: a close friend of mine, Jeff d Low. He hits

583
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Speaker 3: me up. I think he's a Yes. I think he

584
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Speaker 3: sent me a clip of yours and was just talking

585
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Speaker 3: about like it being he's of the camp of happy

586
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Speaker 3: Franklin's out of there. It needed to happen. He fails

587
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Speaker 3: or as this is on the banner one and eighteen

588
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Speaker 3: against top what is it, top five, Top ten opponents

589
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Speaker 3: or AP opponents, And I'm sitting there message with him.

590
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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I feel you, bro, I promise you

591
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: I feel you. But the only experience I have is

592
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Speaker 3: same kind of thing, like a fan base is so

593
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: fed up with bo Polini. I was like, now, I

594
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Speaker 3: don't think you guys go out and higher, you know,

595
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Speaker 3: like an average coach, like we ended up going out

596
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Speaker 3: and getting Mike Ryleery that kind. I started the buy

597
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Speaker 3: and then we completely whipped on Scott Frost. I don't

598
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Speaker 3: think that'll happen because they have the resources, they have

599
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Speaker 3: the funds.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be a.

601
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Speaker 2: Sure thing out there. It doesn't matter if you got

602
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Speaker 2: well billions of dollars is different, But it doesn't matter

603
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Speaker 2: whether you're well resourced. If you're paying fifty plus million

604
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Speaker 2: dollars to fire a guy or you're just getting rid

605
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Speaker 2: of them, even if you didn't have to pay the buyout,

606
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Speaker 2: although that's reality, so you're paying the buyout. There's got

607
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Speaker 2: to be a definitive upgrade right for you to be confident.

608
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Speaker 2: So I understand Penn State fan cinema. First off, you're

609
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Speaker 2: looking at Ohio State and you're saying to yourself, Man,

610
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Speaker 2: I invest emotionally like my buddy Mike does. I invest

611
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Speaker 2: financially like my buddy Mike, the season ticket holder at

612
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Speaker 2: Ohio State does. Why can't I get the results he gets?

613
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Speaker 2: Why can't we get the results they get? Why can't

614
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Speaker 2: we get the results Michigan's gotten. They've both won At

615
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Speaker 2: the end, it was Signetti yeah, and then he makes

616
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Speaker 2: a lot of people look bad because he's doing it

617
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: way quicker than everyone who's been there a long time.

618
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Speaker 2: But you're looking at it and you're saying, Okay, I

619
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Speaker 2: don't want to just be very good. I would rather

620
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Speaker 2: take my chances and jump into the fog and try

621
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Speaker 2: and grab the grate. But with the risk that we

622
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: fall into terrible I would just rather take that risk.

623
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Speaker 2: That's emotion thinking. That is not logic thinking. But I

624
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Speaker 2: understand it because you're not supposed to be logical as

625
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Speaker 2: a fan. You're not supposed to So I'm sitting on

626
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: the outside, I'm not emotional about it, and I'm trying

627
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Speaker 2: to be more logical. And I'm trying to say you

628
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: could do two things at once. You could admit we've

629
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Speaker 2: just been pretty good. We haven't been great. We want

630
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: to be great. He needs to make changes to be great. Okay,

631
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: that's hand a while hand B also says, man, there's

632
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: so much further you could fall and making this move

633
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: than room to climb. And so I look at that

634
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Speaker 2: proposition and I say, does it really make sense to

635
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Speaker 2: make the move? Does it really make sense to pull

636
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: the trigger and fire him, not put pressure on him,

637
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: fire him? And I thought the answer was no. I

638
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: thought it's insane. They got's thirty four and eight with

639
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: three double digit win seasons over the past three years.

640
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: He was I cannot stress this enough for people who

641
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: were mainly NFL and just kind of dabbling college. The

642
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: guy was in overtime against Oregon sixteen days ago with

643
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: a top five ranking next to his name and the

644
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: lead in the game. And he's out of a job now,

645
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: twelve years in to his tenure. And remember when he

646
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: took the job, they weren't that far removed from crippling

647
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: scandal Like Penn State had huge stains on their brand

648
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: that extended well beyond football publicly when you mentioned Penn State,

649
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: no one taught football. They talked other terrible stuff, And

650
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: James Franklin comes in and correct me if I'm wrong.

651
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Speaker 2: There hasn't been a whiff of scandal since he's been there.

652
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Speaker 2: So my thinking was just how does this guy not

653
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Speaker 2: have more equity built up than this?

654
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Speaker 3: How much?

655
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Speaker 2: How much very very good can you turn in before

656
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 2: people just get fed up with very good and in

657
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Speaker 2: pursuit of great take this kind of risk because this

658
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Speaker 2: is a huge risk. And like you said, Okay, if

659
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Speaker 2: you want to go and you want to upgrade, that's fine.

660
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Speaker 2: If there were a guaranteed upgrade out there, I would

661
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Speaker 2: support this move. James Franklin himself logically couldn't push back

662
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Speaker 2: on this move. If you told James, hey, so and

663
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Speaker 2: so is available, like Nick Sabe Kirby Smart, Kirby Smart's

664
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Speaker 2: available and he wants to come to Penn State, even

665
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: James Franklin would have to say, yeah, you guys got

666
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Speaker 2: to make this move. Favared my money, You got to

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Speaker 2: make this move. Kirby's not available, None of the top

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Speaker 2: coaches are available. So again we're not talking about Penn

669
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Speaker 2: State having been terrible. We're talking about them floating in

670
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Speaker 2: about the eight to fifteen range right over the past

671
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Speaker 2: few years. So to upgrade, you've either got to go

672
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Speaker 2: get one of the top eight coaches in the country,

673
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Speaker 2: none of whom are going to leave where they are

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Speaker 2: right now. Or you've got to have such a sure

675
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Speaker 2: fire candidate out there. Maybe it's a hot shot coordinator,

676
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Speaker 2: or maybe it's a coach that I don't know is

677
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Speaker 2: like re emerging on the landscape and you're gonna be

678
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Speaker 2: his final step. You're hiring for the next fifteen years.

679
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Speaker 2: I don't see that. Like, do you know, I'm a

680
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Speaker 2: huge Matt Campbell guy. I'd hire him tomorrow if I

681
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Speaker 2: had an opening. But even I'll admit, with Matt Campbell,

682
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Speaker 2: that's not such a sure slam. I'm dunk that I'm

683
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Speaker 2: gonna fire James Franklin and pay him fifty million dollars

684
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Speaker 2: not to work here anymore, because I think Matt Campbell

685
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Speaker 2: may work out there. Like Matt Campbell's a ball coach,

686
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Speaker 2: and I get tout him until the sun goes down today,

687
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Speaker 2: and I think he would be a home run higher

688
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Speaker 2: for whoever had a job opening, because he's done great

689
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Speaker 2: things at a historically terrible program at Iowa State. I

690
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: don't know that I'm paying fifty million dollars to get

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Speaker 2: the other guy out of the seat just to find

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Speaker 2: out though. That's where my head's out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta you have to know, Okay, we're getting

694
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Speaker 1: we're making this big of a move in sixteen days.

695
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Speaker 1: They have to know on their head, we know who

696
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Speaker 1: are next guys? And that text mess just going out

697
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Speaker 1: that burner phone has come out and be like, hey,

698
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Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, I would make that move.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they know who their target is or

700
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Speaker 3: who their guy is? Like, you're very connected in the

701
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Speaker 3: college football world and what you've seen because you watch Listen.

702
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: We'll be watching Thursday night football and I see you

703
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 3: tweeting about some game that's happening in college football.

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Speaker 2: Not some game. It's Miami Ohio Toledo.

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Speaker 3: That's an instinct rivalry game. So he coaches coordinators up

706
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: and comers, like, what is this list looking like for

707
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: Penn State? Like what are coaches that are you know,

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Speaker 3: for any of the jobs that might be opening up.

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Speaker 1: Before you answer that question, CBS had a whole report

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Speaker 1: on this. Have you seen that CBS report those are

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Speaker 1: your friends.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember which report it was.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was about who the next head coaches. They said,

714
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Speaker 1: and I quote, it starts here and it finishes here.

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Speaker 3: I saw that one. I saw that one. You're talking

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Speaker 3: about my boy, You're talking about my second father.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the odds came out too, and

718
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Speaker 1: your boy is the number one front runner right here.

719
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Speaker 3: Hang on to your talk. Need Josh Bake to whisper

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Speaker 3: in my ear that rule won't go to Penn State.

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Speaker 1: If you're talking, turbulence is happening. The flight attendants looking

722
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Speaker 1: at us that she's not good right now, Hey, having

723
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Speaker 1: a conversation. We're having a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Doors shut, bust, door shut. I'm looking at you, okay.

725
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Speaker 2: I know, and you know, and you know that I

726
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Speaker 2: know that you know that that's your burner. I know that,

727
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Speaker 2: and I know that you want me to put your

728
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Speaker 2: mind at ease.

729
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Speaker 4: And you know.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be terrible if Matt left Nebraska

731
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Speaker 2: to go to Penn State. I think the CBS report

732
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Speaker 2: is right that that's their target because I think Pat

733
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Speaker 2: Craft and Matt rule. I mean, if you and I

734
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Speaker 2: vacation together and I'm the ad somewhere, and I think

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Speaker 2: that the job that I have control love is superior

736
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Speaker 2: to the job you have. Yeah, I'm going to offer

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Speaker 2: you the job. That's not the question. The question is

738
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Speaker 2: not is that their target? Because I think that may

739
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Speaker 2: be their target. The question is going to be is

740
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Speaker 2: he willing to leave? That's going to be the question. Yeah, yes,

741
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be willing to leave.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm I'm saying I understand. I understand

743
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: what you're saying. I think the rumors are very real.

744
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: I think the pressure will be at an all time high,

745
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: and I think it just comes down to what's in

746
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Speaker 3: coach rules, brain and heart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say he's not leaving. I hope

749
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: that these that these rumors aren't true, that they're not targeting.

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Speaker 3: I think all of that is very real. I just

751
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what is in his heart, mind and

752
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: soul because I know he was a walk on there.

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00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: I know he's an East Coast guy. I know he's

754
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: got you know, ties, their family, ties, friends, everything like

755
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Penn State. When he came and took the Nebraska job,

756
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: You've kind of understood a little bit of this. Now

757
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: I'm understanding more of it. So I don't know what's

758
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: going on in his brain, but I do know that

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00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: in my opinion, he's grown and as he's been there.

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00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: He's on his third year now. He absolutely loves Nebraska.

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00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: His wife, his family loves Nebraska. He moved his family,

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Speaker 3: He moved some of his family over to Lincoln, Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: His wife has a business in Nebraska, his son is

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Speaker 3: a sophomore at unl At Nebraska, you get everything you

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: want at Nebraska, money, resources, facilities, you got recruiting classes.

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of things set up to where

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00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: it's like you have some business that not only finished,

768
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: but you can be a legacy guy at the University

769
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Speaker 3: of Nebraska. I'm not talking anybody in particular, but we

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Speaker 3: got a lot of good shit happening in Lincoln to

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Speaker 3: where I just I think that as real as him

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Speaker 3: and him being boys with the A D. But he's

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Speaker 3: also very much great friends boys with the ad Troy

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Speaker 3: Dana and at Nebraska. I think that this is now

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00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: he's got emotional ties year and this is a program

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Speaker 3: that he legitimately wants to build and win championships with.

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Speaker 1: Do you know who Greg Madison is?

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Speaker 3: I know who Greg maddox Is.

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00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Was yeah, both white moles. He was a defensive cornator.

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Speaker 1: I think he was with the Ravens for a little

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Speaker 1: bit and then it came to the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: He loved Michigan. He loved an arbor. His wife, kids, family,

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00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: everyone moved there. They started themselves a little shop and

784
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: on Main Street called Rock paper Scissors. It was like

785
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: a cute trinket store. Right holiday season. What could take place?

786
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: You go over there, get some fun ornaments for trees.

787
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Spootoba would take place. You have a whole bunch of

788
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: stuff to kind of make your house a little more festive.

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Speaker 1: A year after I left, he went to Ohio State

790
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: because he had ties at Ohio State, and.

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Speaker 2: He's on record saying it's the worst decision of his life.

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: He didn't say that.

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00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Rock paper Scissors is still there and it's actually functioning

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: very well. When I told my daughter to a game

795
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: last year, it's just as cute as it was before.

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00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: Okay, where's the thing.

797
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: Listen, listen to me.

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He opened Rock paper Scissors and that's great.

799
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Speaker 1: His wife opened paper Scisors.

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Speaker 2: Matt Rules started a whole brand. He's got a whole podcast.

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00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: I got you, Hey, show me that we talked with

802
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: his last week. Show me the brand of that podcast.

803
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Where's the end?

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00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's just trademarking stuff, you know.

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00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: That's just you can't get a trademark from the school

806
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: you go to, you coach for it.

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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Maybe that's in the reasons house.

808
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: Rules, house rules? Can he easily go to blue and white?

809
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: All?

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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm asking you, and you and Matt Rule.

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Speaker 1: I'm just playing devil's advocate. I want him to stay

812
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: in the braswer because.

813
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: You think it would be terrible for college football if.

814
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: He left, I thin'd be awful for college football.

815
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: Do I You got to ask yourself this. And this

816
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: goes for someone who is working a job right now

817
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with football, that just may

818
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: be watching this. Are you happy when you wake up

819
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: in the morning and go to work. Most people's answer

820
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: is no. If Matt Rule's answer is yes, you've got

821
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: your answer. You don't leave happy. You don't try and

822
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: get happier than happy. And you've been around him a ton.

823
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: I've been around him a little bit. Unless he's totally

824
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: faking it, he seems happy at Nebraska, and if he's

825
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: happy at Nebraska, then the best thing he can do

826
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: right now, The best thing Troy Danny can do right

827
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: now is to make sure you understand, okay, to keep

828
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: this guy because he's in demand, which is a good thing.

829
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Speaker 2: By the way, if your guy's not in demand, he sucks.

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00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: The best thing we can do is make sure we

831
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Speaker 2: squeeze the sponge as hard as we can to drip

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00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: every ounce of resource out of the sponge that is Nebraska,

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00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: because that's what it's going to take to keep any

834
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: quality candidate at home. And that's what you do right now.

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Speaker 3: On doing right there, And it ain't looks we got

836
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: the facilities something right there. If it's a little extra

837
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: paid as Holgerson, he ain't take though he gets paid

838
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: overnight like he's he's made a shitload of money. Now,

839
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: it's how do you put position this thing? They put

840
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: it all in. They like getting more players, more talent.

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00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: Maybe that's it. But I think he stays in Nebraska.

842
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: But I am aware that this all this rule talk

843
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: to Penn State is very real.

844
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Speaker 1: But use the term, use the term happy, and it's

845
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: a point I think we can choice the word where

846
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: we talk about where Penn State is located at.

847
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but one of the hardest things, hardest things to

848
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: do for successful people is to get the goalpost to

849
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: stop moving. I think he's in an incredible spot. I

850
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: think he wakes up very happy coaching the Nebraska Cornhuskers.

851
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 3: What are you laughing about?

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00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: You just your operation? Because literally, here's here's about it, bro,

853
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, hold on, think about this. I'm sitting

854
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: on this show with my best friend and my second

855
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: best friend right now, and we're here talking ball. We're

856
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: talking ball, and I know my job at this point

857
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: on the show is strictly to push your buttons. Because

858
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: if it was if it was true, serum was on me.

859
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I bet. I really hope Matt Rule doesn't leave. I

860
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: want to stay at Nebraska, and I'm watching my boy

861
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: just reach and pick and try to grab anything you

862
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: can't because all you're saying is right, yeah, put a

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00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: billion dollar contract in front of them and say you happy,

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00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: We'll bring anything you want. I just know that the

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00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: CBS report. You look at the odds, he's number He's

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Speaker 1: number one, and I last week you and I talked

867
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: about this, like, is Matt Rule gonna go to Penn State?

868
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: Is shut it down?

869
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Is that a possibility? You shut it down? And like,

870
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: I just thought, Oh, that's that's an interesting thought process.

871
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: The minute James Franklin was fired, the Matt Rule headline

872
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: started and it was bigger than I ever could have imagined.

873
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: So I am as your best friend. I am afraid

874
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: for you right now. I'm nervous because where do we

875
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: go from here if we lose Matt. I know them

876
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: boys in Nebraska hate my guts because, like, how could

877
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: you go for Michigan when you were at our spring

878
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: game and say there might be that's one of the

879
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: end stands for knowledge. I went to Michigan. So I'm

880
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: obviously going to go against you guys, but I still

881
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: love and support you. Guys.

882
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: What happened.

883
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: Let let's play a hypothetical game, and I'm just gonna

884
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: look at you right now. If that Rule takes the

885
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: job at Penn State, where does Nebraska go from there?

886
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Who do they go get?

887
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: You open up the wall for anybody.

888
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: That's that's the problem, though, is you can't just open

889
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: up the wall for anybody. You have to go find

890
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: the right guy and open the wall for that right guy.

891
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak for both of us. Here's the answer.

892
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: If an asteroid drops on your house while you're asleep tonight,

893
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: what are you going to do tomorrow?

894
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: Nothing because you're dead.

895
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what Nebraska would do because I'm not

896
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: allowing my mind to go there because it's not it's

897
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Okay, But the answer is I would go,

898
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: like get Alex Golish, I would go get one of

899
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: these coordinators. Just's begging for a shot. Because you want

900
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: to talk about legacy, talk about appreciation. And again this

901
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: is hypothetical.

902
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Alma Mater. We gotta make sure.

903
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: That is actually.

904
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: We gotta look up wherever that is.

905
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know why. Like again,

906
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: I feel very confident with what we've built over the

907
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: last asteroids not dropping on us. Yeah, Mike Eckler in

908
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: that Special Teams unit is sitting at the top of

909
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 3: the right now. Nebraska, we play a tough Minnesota team

910
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: this weekond could be the first time we win six games.

911
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: Whatever, Ryan, you're happy, You're happy in Columbia, NFL, will

912
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: is Ohio State.

913
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: Why do they keep doing this to Ryan?

914
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: Day's not going anywhere. That's good news, that's good unless

915
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: a Penn State situation happens, that.

916
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Fan base would never turn on him, that would never.

917
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Take last year. They were like old Boston, House State

918
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: or Michigan.

919
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: All good, Nebraska, buddy.

920
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: You always knew that's exactly where this would go.

921
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: We spent three minutes on Penn State.

922
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: Maybe three minutes.

923
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we knew this is where it was gonna go.

924
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: To get back to the A, to get back to

925
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Speaker 3: the original question. I know we made it about the Husky,

926
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: But who are these Who do you think these coaches

927
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 3: are that will be on these short lists when these

928
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: you know programs, because I'm sure we are pretty sure

929
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: that there will be more jobs open than just Penn State.

930
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, who are these coaches that you.

931
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: Think will be making some big moves in the offseason.

932
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: I think that Matt Campbell is I'm going to go

933
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: back to him. I mean I might as well be

934
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Speaker 2: his agent, Like that's how much I believe in him.

935
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: So Matt Campbell at Iowa State would be my call.

936
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Speaker 2: Rule's gonna get mentioned with Penn State until the job

937
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: gets filled. I also think John summer All at Tulane

938
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: has been ready. I think he's smart enough to wait

939
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: for the right job to open, probably an SEC job.

940
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: I think a couple at least of SEC jobs will

941
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: come open. Alex Golis like we just mentioned at South Florida,

942
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: Like both of those guys in a previous life would

943
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: have already left, They would have taken a smaller job.

944
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: Those guys can just afford to wait for a bigger job. Remember,

945
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 2: Arkansas is open right now. Remember Oklahoma State is open

946
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: right now.

947
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: So Stanford, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State, pennstake.

948
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: Like, I got no clue what you do if you're

949
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, I have no clue what you do your route. Ironically,

950
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: I don't think James is gonna take Pence or of

951
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. But your route may be to hire a

952
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: guy who's already making buyout money so that you don't

953
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: have to break the bank for him, because there's no

954
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: bank to break there.

955
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: Fun thoughts. Fun thought with some coaching experience, do you

956
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: look at somebody like from your alma mater, D'Angelo Hall.

957
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: D Hall has been in the NFL game. Yeah, well

958
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: my coaching right now, right, and you see d Jack,

959
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: You see some of these moves as far as like

960
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Eddie could be a thought.

961
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: If you're going for these programs, I think there needs

962
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: to be a higher sample size before you start going

963
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: giving a d Angel Hall a Nebraska job or a

964
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: Penn State job.

965
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look that's more speculation, like it. But if

966
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: Dangel Hall was somebody that like wanted to coach at

967
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, that could very much be like a thought,

968
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: depending if he sits down in the right rooms interviews,

969
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 3: well and everything else, and if he's dying for a

970
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech job at a legend in not only Virginia

971
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Tech but also the NFL, that could bring a lot awareness, excitement, branding,

972
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: because Virginia Tech has been in a hole for a

973
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: long time, since since like the two thousands, that first

974
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: decade in the two thousands.

975
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Staying on the coaching and you brought up Tulane SEC.

976
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: We know that Hugh Freeze is probably on the hot seat.

977
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: Little bit. We've talked about billion Naper.

978
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: All Saturday is a big game for Hugh Freeze. He

979
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: can play Missouri. It's all caps. Do you understand what

980
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you?

981
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Fully picking up with Big Saturday on.

982
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: The planes for Hugh Freeze?

983
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: If okay, those two we know billionnap here and Hugh Freeze.

984
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: What about Brett Venables? Is there any noise there? You

985
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: lose a Texas at the Red Way the way you

986
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: do if sorry shootout, if my tears thumb doesn't get better,

987
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: and they go through this sec process where it was

988
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: kind of a hot seat situation before the season started.

989
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: Before the game.

990
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Cocks, Let's say they lose to the Cocks. What's the

991
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: rest of Oklahoma schedule. Let's just say it.

992
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Let's just say it all ranked teams.

993
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're they're in they're in a cock Mo

994
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: November type of situation. Soon members, let's just call it

995
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: a tough schedule. Yeah, let's yeah, it's tough schedule. Let's

996
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: say it doesn't go the way they want. Is Brett

997
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: Vennables who was on who was kind of on this

998
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: like theoretical hot seaton before the season started. Is that

999
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: a situation where there's a vacant job at Oklahoma?

1000
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah, that's another one.

1001
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: I could have took way less time to a second.

1002
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: It's another one that's not on the radar yet because

1003
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: they started the season hot, right, you're looking at I'm

1004
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: just I'm trying. I've tried to tell you guys, like

1005
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, I've been alluding to this the reason

1006
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: that schedule. So that's the reason it's going.

1007
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: To South Carolina, oh, miss Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri and finished

1008
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: with LSU.

1009
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: That you got a good season going eight and four there.

1010
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: If you go eight and four against that, that's a

1011
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: good season. Here's the problem, something called the recalibration of expectation,

1012
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: a theory I have not presented on the show yet,

1013
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: has happened with Oklahoma. If Oklahoma lost to Michigan in

1014
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Week two, people would have never recalibrated their mentality to

1015
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: think Oklahoma be a contender because they would have had

1016
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: a loss already.

1017
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1018
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: But the problem for Oklahoma, ironically, is they beat Michigan.

1019
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: So people forgot their preseason expectations and they recalibrated on

1020
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: the fly, and all of a sudden, Oklahoma became a contender. Well,

1021
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: then John Mattier got his hand hurt, and then they

1022
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: lost to Texas, and now people aren't thinking eight and

1023
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: four is okay. Now people are thinking eight and four

1024
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: given what my recalibrated expectations were, would be a disaster.

1025
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: We need to get rid of him. Now you may

1026
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: think that's crazy or not. Again, I think it's crazy.

1027
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: James Franklin just lost his job, but it doesn't make

1028
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: him any less unemployed this morning than he is. Yes,

1029
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: I do think Oklahoma they believe they've got the entire

1030
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: infrastructure in place, which they do, by the way, and

1031
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: they believe if there's only one shortcoming, if there's only

1032
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: one faulty wire here, and it happens to be the

1033
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 2: head coach, that's a plug and play, and that would

1034
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: be a very desirable job. And they're right about that.

1035
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: And I've talked to some coaches about that. And now

1036
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's looked at a little bit differently in the SEC,

1037
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: Like Oklahoma is the program that has this overlap of

1038
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: rougher around the edges, blue collar roll up your sleeves

1039
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: mentality that some coaches love, but it overlaps with that

1040
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: SEC money and other places aren't like that. Like other places,

1041
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: they're rich and they know it. Oklahoma's rich, but you

1042
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: can tell their first generation rich like they still wear jeans,

1043
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: they still tuck the T shirt in, there's no belt on.

1044
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: There's stains on the jeans too, so you know they've

1045
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: been out working in the back before they come in

1046
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: for dinner. That's kind of how Oklahoma is. So I

1047
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: say all that to say yes to that, and then

1048
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: there's a big question on screen up there, if you

1049
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: want to ask me that question, because I got an

1050
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: answer for that one too.

1051
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: Is Mike novel safe?

1052
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: I got no idea because they'd have to pay him

1053
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: sixty million because when the Alabama job came open, Jimmy

1054
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: Sexton fleeced FSU and got them to sign a renegotiated

1055
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: deal that puts Mike at about I think fifty nine

1056
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: and change million in buyout money if they were to

1057
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: fire him this year. Now here's the plus side. He

1058
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: did take a one year reduced salary, so you only

1059
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: have to pay him six and change this year, and

1060
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: then he goes right back to ten. I think they

1061
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: have eight conference games in a row in a god

1062
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: awful acc They can't get up for any games except Alabama.

1063
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: They got up for them this year. They're they're not

1064
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: built like there is no future there because they've just

1065
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: relied on the portal, so they haven't recruited anything. So

1066
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: even though it's bad this year, normally it's bad, but

1067
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: maybe you look ahead and say Okay, when our young

1068
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: guys become juniors will be good. They don't have that there, right, So.

1069
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: With three twenty three transfers going into the year, yep, yeah,

1070
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: that's that's uh going on coaches that might go to

1071
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: bigger and better jobs, possibly Texas Tech. McGuire, Is he

1072
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: a possibility out of Penn State in the hypothetical world

1073
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: to Nebraska?

1074
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: A hypothetically hypothetically in Oklahoma? Uh, Michigan.

1075
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't leave there if I were.

1076
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: Hold on, there's a hypothetical world, there's a there's a

1077
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: more I think, a more hypothetical world with Michigan than Nebraska.

1078
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: Wait a second, so on the on the hypothetical tree,

1079
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: I mean.

1080
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: With you hypothetical, you're like more. I'm like, I'm seeing

1081
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: odds that it's the search starts and ends with matt

1082
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: rule and you're like, hypothetically.

1083
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: We'll see who's laughing at the end of the season.

1084
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: He took the knife out of Penn State's hands and

1085
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: gave it to you, and you put it in A.

1086
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Tailor is oldest time. A tailor's oldest time on this bus, Hey,

1087
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: you know what we need to do? O Son is

1088
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: at Nebraska that's good.

1089
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: That's that's news to me.

1090
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: Actually that is that. Yeah, yeah, no, that's real. He's

1091
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 3: on his staff, he's on coach real staff.

1092
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: Things might be up in Nebraska, hypothetically. Hypothetically, we've already

1093
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: gone through a coaching change and everything.

1094
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: I just went to Equalizer with Denzel where he takes

1095
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: the gun and points it back at him.

1096
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, we're having fun.

1097
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: We're having a good time out of here.

1098
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Listen, do you think you shouldn't leave? Okay, I want

1099
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: to take you guys out there. I don't know that

1100
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: business regularly takes either of you through Lubbock, Texas.

1101
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: I just I just don't think you.

1102
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: Guys regularly like travel through that part of Texas, So

1103
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: it would have to be a one off. Their facilities

1104
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 2: are off the charts, insane. They've got unbelievable money out there.

1105
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Cody Campbell, all those commercials he's doing, like, that's the

1106
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: same guy that bank rolls Texas Tech. He is tied

1107
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: into Texas. Joey was a high school coach for like

1108
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: thirty years. Here's been a coach in Texas for thirty years.

1109
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: Most of those were Texas high school. So He's kind

1110
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: of just uniquely woven into the Texas culture. And so

1111
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: the jobs I think he would leave Texas Tech for

1112
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: were if the Texas job or the A and M

1113
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: job ever came open and they all stayed in the state. Yeah, Like,

1114
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: I just think he fits there. I think he'd be

1115
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: a total fish out of water at Nebraska or a

1116
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: Penn State or whatever. Maybe Oklahoma fits just a small

1117
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: little Maybe Oklahoma fits you talking about.

1118
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: The blue collar but we got money the whole thing. Yeah, Texas,

1119
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: Texas Tech.

1120
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: Texas Tech's awesome right now.

1121
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: They seem like true contenders. Yeah, we could actually see

1122
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: them playing in the national championship. Yeah, them in Indiana both. Yeah,

1123
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: you can't see through them right now, you really can't.

1124
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Kurt signetty buddy, I love him. I think he is hilarious.

1125
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: His name is coming up basically any potential job that

1126
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: could be happening. Yeah, so what do you see with Signetti?

1127
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: It makes sense that his name would come up, Like

1128
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: if I were Penn State, I was talking about Matt

1129
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: Campbell so much. I got to tell you because I

1130
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: left out some context, I would call Signety before I

1131
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: call anybody. I don't get the feeling Kurt Signetti's just

1132
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: in a hurry to leave Indiana for Penn State. People

1133
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: don't realize how much money he makes there. He's making

1134
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: as much at Indiana with his renewed contract as James

1135
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: was making at Penn State. So you're already matching the dollars.

1136
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: You've got way less pressure on you. You are now

1137
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: and as long as you want to be the face

1138
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: of Indiana football, there was no before you. Right, there

1139
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: is no shadows? Are you are Indiana football? And also,

1140
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: do we just know that he is dying to go

1141
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: to state college Pennsylvania. I don't know that I've actually

1142
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: heard the opposite. Now, maybe have some other jobs can open,

1143
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: maybe he entertains that, But.

1144
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: What other jobs are he entertained?

1145
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we just got the news that Michigan

1146
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: is gonna come open, Like Michigan is highly likely to

1147
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: come I would look at uh. I'm just saying, do you.

1148
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: Think Signetty would want to go to Michigan?

1149
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: D yes, Yes, the Michigan job is Michigan. You're down.

1150
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: No way he could be sitting in this chair less

1151
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: than a year from now. Yeah, welcome to Michigan.

1152
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: Right, No, Swan Moore is he's woven in the fabric

1153
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 1: and national championship coach. Mean, he was the head coach

1154
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: during Penn State, during Maryland, which I said in the

1155
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: championship year was gonna be the hardest game Ohio State,

1156
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: Like he was a part of those.

1157
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: I wish he was on the sideline in Nebraska. That's it.

1158
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: That hurt people, hurt people.

1159
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: So I do have a question what we just saw

1160
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: with the Penn State and James Franklin, like the whole

1161
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: very very good these years. Obviously he didn't win a

1162
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 3: championship there. But Dabo Sweeney, could there be any movement

1163
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: with Clemson if they were to drop you know, just

1164
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 3: another real if you're going to lose a couple more games.

1165
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 3: But if they lose another bad game, Like what are

1166
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: there conversations happening at Clemson?

1167
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: Not that I know of. That one would be off

1168
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: the radar, out of left field to me. I know

1169
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: when you say conversations, I know what you mean. There

1170
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: are absolutely conversations of hey, what's our future going to be?

1171
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: But not conversations of hey, we got a meeting tomorrow

1172
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: morning ten am. We're about to discuss immediate termination of

1173
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: our head coach. No, I don't think those conversations are

1174
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: happening like North Carolina though with Belichick.

1175
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: That's that's But you got to think about.

1176
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 2: How many jobs we're stacking on top of each other

1177
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: right now. At some point you got to look at

1178
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: the coaching market and say, might we just wait a year?

1179
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: Do we really want to compete against all of these

1180
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: other programs that are coming open.

1181
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: JP had a great take on this. When who they

1182
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: lose to We're Clemson, they lost to it, and this

1183
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: is when Dabo's kind of have to crash out the podium.

1184
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: Maybe George Yah, it's probably Georgia Tech. And JP was like,

1185
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Clemson's got to remember who they were before debo because

1186
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: they were nothing right they were. It was a it

1187
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: was a bad program. It's been too long, too long.

1188
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: And then like you lose.

1189
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: Dabbo, who is, like you say, woven in the fabric

1190
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: of a culture, like he is Clemson. You gotta keep

1191
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: him there, let him die there.

1192
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly will be gone by.

1193
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay.

1194
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: JP just said Brian Kelly will be gone by the interview.

1195
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: Every coach besides who Brian days together?

1196
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: Guys who will keep their Yeah, that's what it's turning

1197
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: into we can't finish the sheet.

1198
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: The Brian Kelly thing, that's another one too, is they

1199
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: win that first game against Clemson. The recalibration you're kind

1200
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: of talking about is like, oh ship, we're we're That's

1201
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: all we needed was when the first get Yeah, we

1202
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: want to see an opener. And now it's like, yeah

1203
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: it is. Brian Kelly.

1204
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: Is he safe?

1205
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Because I know there was like a whole lot of

1206
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: oil and water type of mixture when it came to

1207
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: l s U, Baton Rouge and Brian Kelly's personality.

1208
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: So right now he's winning, Yeah, wells winning.

1209
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: He's another guy who's got this not quite Oklahoma stretch

1210
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: in the second half of the season. But he's got

1211
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: a tough stretch now. I will say, is we're sitting

1212
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: here talking, it's the Monday following the South Carolina game.

1213
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: They only would they score JP twenty? Yeah, yeah, they

1214
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: only scored twenty the other night two red zone turnovers.

1215
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I actually thought their offense showed more promise than I've

1216
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: seen at any point this year. Doesn't really matter if

1217
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't click. That is one of two places LSU

1218
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma where neither guy's on an immediate hot seat,

1219
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying they are. Those are two places that,

1220
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: because of the schedules they're about to play, could turn

1221
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: on a dime down the stretch. Hot seat talk could

1222
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: crank up immediately. And those are two places that view

1223
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: themselves rightfully so as organizations that are built very strongly.

1224
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: And if all you had to do was remove the

1225
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: star above the Christmas tree and put a brighter star

1226
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: on top of it would be a very desirable tree

1227
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: to be placed on top of.

1228
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: I love that.

1229
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: It's really technical terminology. I'm sorry if I lost you there.

1230
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I followed. It took me a second, but I

1231
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: got there. You want to be an upright star on

1232
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: a nice tree.

1233
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: You don't want to go have to find a new

1234
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: tree in the woods.

1235
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: Right.

1236
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: The tree's nice, it's decorated, we got the tensil. We

1237
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: got real popcorn. It's not even the fake popcorn.

1238
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Every year in my house, it's a it's a headache

1239
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: every year.

1240
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: And do it at LSU and Oklahoma.

1241
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: Watching ball, Dude, I I love how college football is

1242
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 3: such a roller coaster because this is the most fun

1243
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: year for you. Yeah, I think these are like one

1244
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: of the This is like one of the best years

1245
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: in college because anybody, it feels like, can be anybody

1246
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: just up in the air.

1247
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: One more thing I was talking to like fifty agents yesterday,

1248
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: and one thing they kept saying is something that's right

1249
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: in front of your face and you're not realizing it

1250
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: that we're having to deal with right now, is we

1251
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: have been used to forever. Towards the end of the season,

1252
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: guys get fired and then coaching searches start to happen

1253
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, but it's always it's never going to

1254
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: be public or finalized until the end of the year,

1255
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: all right, So if you don't make a bowl game,

1256
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: it happens early December. And if you're going to a

1257
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: bowl or if maybe if you're going to play all

1258
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: for national championship, you agree if you're a coordinator. Kirby

1259
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: Smart once stayed with Alabama through the national title game

1260
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: even though he had taken the Georgia job. That was

1261
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: the old school way of doing things. But no one

1262
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: used to fire guys in October. Now everyone's getting fired

1263
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: in October. And these agents were talking to me yesterday

1264
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: and they were saying, you know, we're not hearing from

1265
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: these universities. They want to wait to the end of

1266
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: the season. They want to do the search now to

1267
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: walk that through to a conclusion. What that means is theoretically,

1268
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: if Penn State were to try and go get Signetti

1269
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: or go get Matt Campbell, or go get someone else,

1270
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: they want it to happen during the season. I don't

1271
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: even understand how that functions.

1272
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: Yes, so they went and got Matt Campbell, will use

1273
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: his name. Would they say, Okay, we've hired Matt. Gets

1274
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: November fifth, Matt Campbell's the next head coach of Penn State.

1275
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: And then at Campbell just goes to Penn State I

1276
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: think coach at Iowa State for the rest of the

1277
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I think he coaches.

1278
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: Like say they're playing, say they're in the Costable Playoff,

1279
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 3: like he coaches through or maybe who knows, but he's

1280
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 3: finishing out the year. But it would probably work the

1281
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 3: same fashion it would like the NFL to where somebody

1282
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: might somebody's gonna leak it. It's not gonna be the

1283
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: team coming out saying this is gonna be our next

1284
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: head coach. Because to your point, what's probably going to

1285
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: start happening is these coaches, these staves are going to

1286
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 3: be interviewing during the season right over zoom. Uh, you know,

1287
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 3: on the phone face not They won't be flying and

1288
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: going face to face unless because that right there again,

1289
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna that's gonna get leaked. It's all

1290
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: gonna get leaked. But staves are, like head coaches are

1291
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: going to be interviewing on the phone on zoom during

1292
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: the season.

1293
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Not just head coaches, but like coordinators as well. Yeah,

1294
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: who's the OC from Missouri? Yeah, it's it's all good.

1295
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: We can forget his name of a second, Are there

1296
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: he already interviewed for the Arkansas.

1297
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: Job middle Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. But are

1298
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: you do you Are you hearing about any coordinators in

1299
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 3: the college football circuit that could be potential hot names?

1300
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirby Moore is Na. Yeah, tons of them. But

1301
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: I don't I think it all works downstream of which

1302
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: head coaches leave and which head coaches are available. Yeah,

1303
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: there are a lot of places where if you look

1304
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: number three or number four in their list, it's a coordinator.

1305
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: But that's contingent on the first three names, which your

1306
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: head coach is not being available, So it's and then

1307
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: what normally happens in this kind of cycle, is okay.

1308
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: Current head coaches climb up the ladder and fill the openings,

1309
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: and then those jobs like the if the Indiana job

1310
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: were open, if the Iowa State job were open, if

1311
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: some other job were open, those are the places that

1312
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: look at a coordinator. Historically, that's what happens. If John

1313
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: Summer All were to take the Auburn job, if it opened,

1314
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: two Lane looks at a high profile coordinator. That's probably

1315
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 2: the way that goes.

1316
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I want to I know we kind of

1317
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: brushed over it a little bit. We talked about UCLA

1318
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: being two and o and they should be two and

1319
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: o at this point we should all just we should

1320
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: erase everything from the prior head coach. But I remember

1321
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: a conversation you had a con coward. I clicked on

1322
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: the link and I will listen to you guys talk

1323
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: about UCLA and how bad of a job at is.

1324
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Your stadium's forty five minutes right from the campus. You're

1325
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: the second best recruiting team in the city essentially, and

1326
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden there're two to zero. Who's

1327
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: the h is it?

1328
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Tim Skippers the head coach? No, No, No, who's the

1329
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: OC Jerry Newheisel.

1330
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: Is that Jerry Yeah?

1331
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: Team?

1332
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry Neuheisel is the face of the team.

1333
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: Is that now?

1334
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: Having that conversation, we'll call on Coward. Is that now

1335
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: a job? That's like, yeah, new Heeidel seems like he's

1336
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: the perfect man for that job.

1337
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: If I were them, I would probably go that route.

1338
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know the UCLA jobs intimately, Like I've had

1339
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: more conversations about the UCLA job over the past month

1340
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: than I've had my whole life. Very eye opening, and

1341
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: what it shows is apathy towards the football program. They

1342
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: don't have their nil affairs in order, they don't take

1343
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: it nearly as seriously as basketball, and they love to

1344
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: tout how rich their alumni base is, but it doesn't

1345
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: matter if football can't tap into it. Frankly, Arkansas has

1346
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: had some of those problems recently. Really a ton of

1347
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: money in Northwest Arkansas. It doesn't matter if the needle

1348
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: doesn't go into football, how much money you have. And then,

1349
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: at least at Arkansas you know everyone cares. At UCLA

1350
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: you have the added burden of trying to make people

1351
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: care about football, which is a very unenviable position to

1352
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: be in. Like, if you're trying to make people care

1353
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: about football in a country that's football obsessed, you're probably

1354
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: just in the wrong part of the country, or in

1355
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: that case, in the wrong part of town. Even Riley

1356
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: struggled with that at USC though they packed the coliseum Saturday.

1357
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: But that's called Michigan's in town. And because they may

1358
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: be winning. If they're not winning, they don't draw anything,

1359
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: and that's USC. So I don't I still think the

1360
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: same thing I think about the job. It's just maybe

1361
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: they've caught lightning in a bottle and they found out

1362
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: the answer was in their building the whole time.

1363
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a good answer to have.

1364
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I enjoy seeing with the UCLA positions,

1365
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 3: just having like because he played there, right sure, Yeah,

1366
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: just having a little sick of somebody who understands the culture,

1367
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: who understands like wanting to bring this brand back. He's

1368
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: had some success.

1369
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: It's like a bruin too. He's got the wave going there.

1370
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: It's like, this guy's.

1371
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: Perfect for you. It seems like he's having a blast

1372
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: getting this opportunity. I think that would be an awesome.

1373
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know who what Tim Skipper looks like. Like,

1374
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: I feel like it's about the face of a program.

1375
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: He's the interim head coach. I don't even know what

1376
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: this guy even looks like at all.

1377
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: There's Tim Skipper there.

1378
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 4: He is.

1379
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have guessed full transparency, would not have guessed Sherman's

1380
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: brought up here. Does a three lost SEC team make

1381
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: the college football playoffs?

1382
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably more than one. Yeah, that's why Saturday is important.

1383
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 4: Listen.

1384
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: I know we're in October and no one's like thinking

1385
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: this through all right. Last weekend Arizona had Byu on

1386
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: the ropes and they let him off. They let him

1387
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: off the hook. No one's thinking about the ramifications for

1388
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: the SEC when BYU and Arizona are playing at one

1389
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: o'clock Eastern time in the morning. But it's big because

1390
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: if bringing Young keeps winning those close games and they're

1391
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: sitting there eleven and one are undefeated versus a nine

1392
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: and three SEC, they're going to get the playoff nod

1393
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: later down the road. All right, So that's first thing.

1394
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: Think about. Second thing this Saturday. If Notre Dame loses

1395
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: to USC, they're gonna be out right now. A ten

1396
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: and two Notre Dame versus certain nine and three secs

1397
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: is a legitimate playoff debate. Come December, all the nine

1398
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: and three SEC teams will get the NOD over a

1399
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: nine and three Notre Dame because they will have lost

1400
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: their only two high level games and lost their third one.

1401
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: So they will have lost their three games against their

1402
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: three biggest opponents elsewhere, their strength of schedules garbage, So

1403
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: a lot of these games outside the SEC are going

1404
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: to have as much impact on this as the SEC

1405
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: games themselves. Then in the SEC, what you want to

1406
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: ask yourself is, right now you've got ten teams with

1407
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: zero or one conference losses. You got to start having

1408
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: some separation. You've got to start having a few teams

1409
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: separate instead of just a bunch of two, three and

1410
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: four loss teams, because at that point it gets really

1411
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: hard to differentiate two from here, two from there. But

1412
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: I think I think the over under on three loss

1413
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: teams is like one and a half, and I'm going

1414
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: to take the over. By the way some setting the

1415
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: number and taking the over it sounds fair. Yeah, I

1416
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: think three loss teams are going to the playoff really god,

1417
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: And that means other three lost teams are gonna get

1418
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: left out because you're gonna have a bunch of three

1419
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: lost teams, I think in multiple conferences confree So I

1420
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. A and M's undefeated guys

1421
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: can Ole missus undefeated. Ole Miss goes to Georgia Saturday.

1422
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: By the way, oh miss dog. Washington State doesn't matter

1423
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: because they weren't even aware they were playing Washington State

1424
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: until about eleven am Saturday morning. They've just been busy

1425
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: prepping for Georgia. So don't worry about that.

1426
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna worry about that. Let's talk about

1427
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: more coaching hypotheticals.

1428
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin Florida. It's it, that's Florida.

1429
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Is that does he cause there? I don't know if

1430
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: I heard this made it up in my head.

1431
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: Who cares?

1432
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: Seems like he kind of wants to go.

1433
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if he does or not. I think

1434
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: I think he did once upon a time. He may

1435
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: still want to go. I could find you people who

1436
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: know a lot about that situation who would swear he'll

1437
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: take the job. I was of that opinion. Yeah, okay,

1438
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: we also know he has talked a lotublicly, including in

1439
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: a documentary that just got released like last week, about

1440
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: how woven into the fabric of ole Missy is now

1441
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: I moved his family there, this and that. That could

1442
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: be bs. He could be lying to you, or he

1443
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: could mean every word of it.

1444
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Can you bring up the AP,

1445
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: the AP twenty five top twenty five?

1446
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: You just want to look at it?

1447
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to look at it. I just want

1448
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: to get his opinion on a couple of things because

1449
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: he's got the Commissioner's poll.

1450
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 4: Yep.

1451
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: It slowly, it's making its way as the number one.

1452
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: Then the AP catches up a couple of weeks later.

1453
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: AP catches up a couple weeks later. We're bringing it

1454
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 3: up here Twitter. Interesting, right, Yeah, what an opportunity you

1455
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: have at the bottom of this list, Cincinnati being twenty four,

1456
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: Nebraska being twenty five.

1457
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: Oh to correct it, to correct correct the historical record.

1458
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: And also it's like in your mind when you were

1459
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: breaking down all the college ball, like thinking about Illinois

1460
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: being unranked because they've gotten mopped by Ohio State and

1461
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: they got mopped by Indiana USC being a one loss team,

1462
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: that one loss being to Illinois, who even though they

1463
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: did get mopped. Their two losses are to the number

1464
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: one and the number three team in the country. Like,

1465
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 3: when you're looking at the ap pole, who are they

1466
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: missing on this week? Who do you think?

1467
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: It's?

1468
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: Like? Hey, you know, is it is Illinois ranked in

1469
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: your Commissioner's poll or else on the chart? And for

1470
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: the love of God, you better? Are you moving up?

1471
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech?

1472
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech's probably about I have done. I haven't done

1473
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: the Commissioner's pole, so I like to marinate on these things,

1474
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: make emotional decisions.

1475
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: You're right, but I do want an emotional comment.

1476
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: I do want to say. The Notre Dame Texas conundrum

1477
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: confounds me a little bit. Texas and Notre Dame two

1478
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: loss teams. Texas I think was twenty first, Notre Dame's thirteenth,

1479
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: and Texas has two losses just like Notre Dame. But

1480
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: Texas has a win over Oklahoma, a top ten Oklahoma.

1481
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's best win is what Boise or Arkansas like?

1482
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: They don't they don't have a quality win. I guess

1483
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: they're saying because their losses are to top five teams,

1484
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: then that kind of carries more weight. But at some

1485
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: point I'm asking doesn't winning the games matter, like you

1486
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: lost to good teams. Okay, but the key word there's

1487
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: lost and Texas just beat. I don't know. I'm not

1488
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: that upset about it because they're both two lost teams.

1489
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: But I still think Vandy's a little bit too low

1490
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: because I don't think Vandy was in the preseason anything.

1491
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: And so what I think people are doing with Notre

1492
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: Dame all the way up at thirteen is I think

1493
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: they are reverting back to their preseason expectation of Notre Dame,

1494
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: and they're also projecting because now everyone who thought Notre

1495
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: Dame was going to be good, they're looking for any

1496
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: reason to believe Notre Dame's good, and by the way,

1497
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: they probably are good. And now they're projecting they'll keep winning.

1498
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: So we're gonna proactively bump them up to thirteen. Whereas

1499
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt didn't think they'd be up there, we begrudgingly had

1500
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: to put them up there. The moment they go loose

1501
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: to Alabama will knock them down. And meanwhile, they open

1502
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: as a favorite against LSU, Vandy a points spread favorite

1503
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 2: against LSU in the fall. Don't lie to our game.

1504
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: Of the week, Yes eleven am kickoff, I may walk

1505
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: to the game. Yeah. I also think it's crazy that

1506
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: Washington is not ranked their only losses, their only losses

1507
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: to the number one team in the country.

1508
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: They weren't They weren't invited to the party, and they

1509
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: were in.

1510
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: That game too, regardless of what the score says, like

1511
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: they had opportunities to win that game.

1512
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 3: Are you on board with Oregon potentially being on on

1513
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 3: fraud alert with their their only states?

1514
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: People are saying, oh man, the Penn State win is fraudulent.

1515
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: Now I look at that the opposite way. Do either

1516
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: of you think that Penn State would have imploded had

1517
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: they beaten Oregon?

1518
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 4: No?

1519
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. So if Oregon caused that, I'm

1520
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: not going to knock them. Because the team they killed

1521
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: played dead the following two weeks, I'm going to credit

1522
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 2: you for killing that team. So, no, they got beat

1523
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: by a good Indiana team. Like at every turn, people

1524
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: are trying to find a way to cut the legs

1525
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: out from under Indiana's resume. Maybe Indiana's just really good.

1526
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Oregon is just really good. That wasn't impressive, though,

1527
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: So I fuck with you.

1528
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: Josh Bate.

1529
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: Yes, last question before we go because we have Greg

1530
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: Olsen coming up. Of all the head coaches that could

1531
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: possibly take a job this offseason, who is, in your opinion,

1532
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: the best head coach? The two names have come up

1533
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: the most is Matt Campbell and Kurt Signetti.

1534
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: Campbell is younger, much younger than sig so Matt Campbell

1535
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: would be my answer. Matt Campbell. People just forget how

1536
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 2: much of a wet bag of garbage the Iowa State

1537
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: football program was, and he has made it so consistent

1538
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: an idea that you can win there that people are

1539
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: taking it for granted. This is not James Franklin at

1540
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: Penn State. This is a historically terrible program, and Matt's

1541
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: won there. They went to the Big twelfth title game

1542
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: last year. They won eleven games. Last year. They're down

1543
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: two starting corners, lost their nose guard and tailback in

1544
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: the game the other night, down to their third string kicker.

1545
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: Like that's the reason they're losing right now.

1546
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 3: They have no depth.

1547
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: Plus they just sent two wide receivers to the NFL Draft.

1548
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 2: You should never be doing any of that at Iowa State.

1549
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: So that guy's good My number.

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Speaker 1: One signating number two, Yes, do you have a third.

1551
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: Let me think on that. I'll see you Wednesday.

1552
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1553
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: This has been eye opening, eye opening experience. Every single

1554
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: job in college football is open.

1555
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

1556
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: Oh?

1557
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: Is there anything about Beamer? Should we be worried about

1558
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: Beemer at all?

1559
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: No?

1560
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1561
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Speaker 2: Saturday he'll be fine.

1562
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, what happened?

1563
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: That's right, Josh Bade. Everybody breaking down the college football world.

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Speaker 1: Hey boys, Greg Olsen, Taylor Lawan, how are you, sir?

1607
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Speaker 4: I got a treat for you?

1608
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: Are we rolling?

1609
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: What do you think we're doing?

1610
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: Game plan salt pepper, sugar packets.

1611
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 4: Hey, salt and pepper. That's in the NFL.

1612
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 5: We don't do that in youth football, as we can't

1613
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 5: tell you about them right now.

1614
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: I see you, Luke on the drawing up the game plan.

1615
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: Four linebackers on that little clip.

1616
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 4: I saw, yeah, just a four to four.

1617
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 5: Luckily the production company Blur announced it didn't see exactly

1618
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 5: where we lined.

1619
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: Up perfect perfect, trying to give.

1620
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 4: All the secrets away. I'm trying to get off for whatever.

1621
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: Me and Lucra I was streaming my computer to my

1622
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: television so we could watch film. And I can't get

1623
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 4: it off.

1624
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: How do I get it off?

1625
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 4: I got it?

1626
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 3: What was before we get into what was the result

1627
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 3: of last week's game?

1628
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 4: Uh, thirty two to zero thirty two? Nothing?

1629
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: And I know, hey, listen, I know we don't. We

1630
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: don't coach the score. We coached the process. Talk to

1631
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: me about the tackling, the coverage, operation on offense, like

1632
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: I need to hear it all.

1633
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: Luke will started.

1634
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 4: Doing t team. So not a lot of coverage. We

1635
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 4: had one ball that almost got over our head, but

1636
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: like we had a good pass rush. The tackling was good.

1637
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 4: Greg's what is it? They had twenty eight plays for

1638
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 4: twenty six yards. Had twenty eight plays twenty seven yards.

1639
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: Got to love that, Luke.

1640
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 4: When you deal gave up one first down on a

1641
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 4: little jet They actually had a nice little concept. They formation,

1642
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 4: you know, whated us and UH ran a little shotgun

1643
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 4: speed pop and uh our kids were all chasing the

1644
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 4: back and they kind of just popped it to the

1645
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: fast motion guy and he got around our edge. That

1646
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 4: was their one first down.

1647
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: Now is that where you're getting in Luke's ear or

1648
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: you're pretty confident that he's gonna get the defense corrected.

1649
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 4: You gotta make we gotta make some adjustments. Well, the reason,

1650
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I didn't get anyone's ear because I

1651
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 4: coached the D line and our right edge, our right

1652
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 4: end was the one who ran inside and didn't keep

1653
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 4: the edge. So it was actually my fault.

1654
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: Now, when you're looking at your league, we know the

1655
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: NFL is a copycat league. Can we say the same

1656
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: thing for Papa Warner? You see that jet sweep and

1657
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, maybe we should throw that in our bag.

1658
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 4: Oh, we run a ton of but we run a

1659
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: lot of jet sweep. I'll just put it that way.

1660
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's don't give up too much.

1661
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 4: I know, give away a lot of our secret.

1662
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: Definitely want Luke coach kickley when you're going against a

1663
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 3: wing te Uh, how how much are you getting in

1664
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: the head? Coaches here to get a little extra time

1665
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: in practice, because I understand this is a big eyes game.

1666
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: We got to be very disciplined. We've got to be

1667
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 3: very good with our eyes. Any subtle motions happen, you

1668
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 3: need a transition. How much are you trying to capture? Hey,

1669
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: we need an extra period for this wing tea. Look,

1670
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: we're about to.

1671
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 5: Face Luckily, we've played against it four times in the

1672
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 5: last two years, so we've got a pretty good feel

1673
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 5: for But you don't you don't need to practice with

1674
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 5: the ball. Everybody just needs to be in their gap,

1675
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 5: do their job, eyes in the right place, and if

1676
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 5: you try to make somebody else's play in the wing tea,

1677
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 5: that's when the ball pops. So when we practice, we

1678
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 5: don't practice with the ball. Do your job, play your gap,

1679
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 5: play physical, and tackle the guy in your gap.

1680
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 4: And it's pretty straightforward.

1681
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: It's a no ball period. It's a no ball period. Boys.

1682
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, I know the season's coming to an end, right,

1683
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: We're getting close to the final.

1684
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 4: Wednesday's last game?

1685
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: Man, last game?

1686
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: Do we got playoffs? Is there champions?

1687
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: Like?

1688
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: Oh, this is just we got to win this one.

1689
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: Put a bow on top of an undefeated and just

1690
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: put a bow.

1691
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 4: This team is good. We knew they were our last

1692
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 4: game of the season. They're good. They've only lost one

1693
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 4: game in overtime, so they could be undefeated. They're good.

1694
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 4: They got some talented kids, they're well coached. This is

1695
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 4: this is probably gonna be our biggest challenge of the year.

1696
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: What about this team?

1697
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: Do they do so well?

1698
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: I know, you guys, I don't know if you've watched

1699
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: too much film yet, but are they big motion or

1700
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: they just our guys?

1701
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 4: They got a couple of good athletes, but that you

1702
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 4: know at this age obviously, when you have a couple

1703
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 4: good athletes, you've you've you build everything around them. So

1704
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 4: we got to work out out for us on defense.

1705
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 4: There they got a good back, their quarterback. They can run,

1706
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 4: they can throw, they're fast, So we got to get

1707
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 4: hats to the ball. We gotta tackle. We got to

1708
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: get these guys on the ground because they got two

1709
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 4: kids that on any play they could score.

1710
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

1711
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: Coach Keikley, what kind of chip are you building on

1712
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 3: your shoulder? Because just what I'm hearing the rumors on Reddit,

1713
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot of message board chatter talking everything else

1714
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: that talking a lot of shit about your philosophy, the

1715
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: way you coach ball, saying you close the fridge with

1716
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: your hip, lay on your tummy at night, do a

1717
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: lot of things that Again, they're building a lot of

1718
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: bulletin board material I'm wondering if you're hearing the noise

1719
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 3: and how you're approaching this week.

1720
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 5: Hey, we do the same thing when we talk to

1721
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 5: our kids about We don't worry about the outside noise.

1722
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 4: We believe in what we do.

1723
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 5: We believe in our scheme, we believe in attitude, effort,

1724
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 5: and intensity, and we believe in the game plan that

1725
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 5: we put forward every week. So all that bulletin board material,

1726
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 5: how I close refrigerator, I don't think it really matters.

1727
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 3: Are you the type of coach that whenever you're getting

1728
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 3: stops or tackles for loss, you're yelling at the other

1729
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: sideline saying, google me, look me up?

1730
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 4: Like, what's that's for? Saying that about? That's it? That's

1731
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 4: like what Signetti does? You said google me?

1732
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a dog for that. This is a

1733
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: This is a question for both you coaches in the

1734
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: if you follow college football at all right now, there's

1735
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: a lot of head coaching jobs being lined up. A

1736
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: lot of people may be being plucked from one place

1737
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: to go to another. A lot of rumors are swirling

1738
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: around the pop Warner culture that Luke Keigley is one

1739
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 1: of the head guys for a head coaching job in that.

1740
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 5: I know what rumors you guys are looking at right now,

1741
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: but you're you're you're Reddit sources I don't think are

1742
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 5: super true.

1743
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see, I asked a question about you leaving.

1744
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: Now Greg wants to stand up to No.

1745
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 4: I didn't like that I was sitting and he was standing.

1746
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 4: It made me feel very uncomfortable.

1747
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: Is this great?

1748
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 6: Do you?

1749
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 1: Are you concerned about Luke Keigley taking a much deserving

1750
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: head coaching job in your league.

1751
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 4: The advantage, the advantage that I have is I'll out

1752
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,879
Speaker 4: pay I could outbid anybody in America.

1753
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: Oh you got oil money, you got oil money and

1754
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: Pop Warner.

1755
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like Texas Tech now right where we're just

1756
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: we're just outbidding everyone for players, softball, pitchers, facilities. So

1757
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 4: the good thing is like, there's nothing anyone could offer

1758
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: Luke that I can't match. Pizza, buckets of beer. Yeah, day,

1759
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 4: you know, Monday morning film session. No, we're not talking

1760
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: about the Panthers. We were both calling the game yesterday.

1761
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 4: We're not talking about the Panthers. We're talking about getting

1762
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 4: our boys ready to finish the season strong. So I

1763
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 4: think he values that over money. I think he values

1764
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 4: that over prestige. So I'm confident that our relationship is

1765
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 4: stronger than any rumor.

1766
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Coach Olsen. With the landscape of trickling down from

1767
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: NFL at college football, it's coming for high school and

1768
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 3: these coaches kind of position themselves with nice buyouts if

1769
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: they do make a move. Just asking both of you, Luke,

1770
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: are you looking at structuring your contract a little bit

1771
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: differently if there is a buyout situation happening? Uh, if

1772
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: there's one already in place, what is the buyout look

1773
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 3: like for Luke Keekley or Greg Olsen or coach Stewart.

1774
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 3: Are you guys are these conversations taking place in the

1775
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: youth football community.

1776
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 5: I think if you position yourself for a buyout, you

1777
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 5: already thinking about getting fired. And we don't have that mindset.

1778
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 5: Our mindset we're just gonna win, We're gonna coach well,

1779
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 5: We've got a great relationship.

1780
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 4: You guys are just trying to drive a wedge in

1781
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: between us all.

1782
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: This is.

1783
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 4: Year four of this. We've never been closer in our lives.

1784
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: Now is not the time to get defensive Coach Kickley,

1785
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: We're strictly just reporting.

1786
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: The trying to drive a wedge because these young kids

1787
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 3: are going to learn, They're gonna learn about the reality

1788
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 3: of the media.

1789
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: To ball out here.

1790
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: Look at it. Look they're getting uncomfortable.

1791
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 4: They got the.

1792
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: Canvas going crazy. What do you guys say to the

1793
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: rumors swirling about you guys taking the head high high

1794
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: school football coaching jobs, because I've I've We've received a

1795
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: couple of texts there Charlotte area code and it's the

1796
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: it's they're going by the name. Don't worry about five

1797
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: seven three people are saying, and a lot of coaches

1798
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: in the high school world are talking ship like they

1799
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: could they Look they can do it in the pop

1800
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: Warner world.

1801
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: There's no shot they could do it in high school.

1802
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 3: Coach hear those rumors. Greg Ozie travels with the sun.

1803
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 3: His son's gonna be playing high school ball here very soon.

1804
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been very clear. We have a great relationship

1805
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 4: with the high school staff. Chris James, the varsity coach

1806
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 4: at Charlotte Christian, good buddy of mine. I make it

1807
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 4: very clear to everyone our job at the middle school level, yes,

1808
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 4: we want to win. Yes, don't get me wrong. Our

1809
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 4: job is to turn over as many good football players

1810
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 4: as many kids ready for high school football to him

1811
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 4: in ninth grade as humanly possible. We sent him a

1812
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 4: class last year that are now freshmen. Our tailback from

1813
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 4: our eighth grade team right now, Jamal Jamal Rule, who's

1814
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 4: the kid going to Nebraska, the running back he broke.

1815
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 4: He hurt his thumb and had surgery, so he's missed

1816
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. Our backup as a freshman.

1817
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: He played for US last year as an eighth grader,

1818
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 4: had never played football before, and now he's playing on varsity.

1819
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 4: He had two touchdowns friday night against a really good

1820
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 4: team out of Georgia and is playing real ball. He's

1821
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 4: played one year for US. Our goal is how many

1822
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 4: of these freshmen in every class can we have ready

1823
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 4: to play high school ball. Whether it's as a freshman,

1824
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 4: a sophomore, junior, who knows, but we're going to give

1825
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 4: him another really good class to back up that one.

1826
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 4: Our eighth graders this year are really good. Our seventh

1827
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 4: grade class might be as good as any of them,

1828
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 4: if not better. So as many of these classes that

1829
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 4: we can prep hand over to the varsity to kind

1830
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 4: of build this thing from the ground floor up. That's

1831
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 4: our model. That's what we're trying to do, and we've

1832
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 4: been very clear where our support lies, what our roles are.

1833
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 4: We are the farm system. We are the fundamental foundation

1834
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 4: of the Charlotte Cristian football program. We take great pride

1835
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 4: in that we believe doing it at that level and

1836
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 4: letting these kids grow up through the program is the

1837
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 4: right way to do it. It's the best long term

1838
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 4: way to do it, and that's what we believe in.

1839
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 3: So it's safe to say you're, you know, in the

1840
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: immediate future, let's you say ten years, ten years, they're

1841
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: going to have this farm system in place. Middle school

1842
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 3: football grey goals and Luke Keekley coach Steward, just ten

1843
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 3: years is probably aggressive, Okay, just I didn't know. I

1844
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: didn't know what kind of future we're looking at over.

1845
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: Here, doubling down on that, How old is your youngest

1846
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: son who is going to go through this process?

1847
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 4: Seventh grade? So I got five, we got five more.

1848
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: Years, five more years. Well, they go to high school

1849
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: right ninth grade?

1850
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 4: Correct, but he got he's letting the fan base know

1851
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 4: my kids are right now, eighth and seventh Okay, so

1852
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 4: I got my son after Wednesday, he's got four more

1853
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: years of high school football. He'll be a freshman in

1854
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 4: the next fall, and then my seventh graders got five

1855
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 4: years left. He'll have eighth grade and then four years

1856
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 4: of high school. So I got five more years after

1857
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 4: this until my young my three are all gone, and

1858
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 4: that'll be That's where our emphasis is, can we get

1859
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 4: a five year grind? And again, I want to be

1860
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 4: very clear of what we're doing here. There are a

1861
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 4: lot of schools around Charlotte that impoor kids on a

1862
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 4: daily basis. Kids are changing classes, changing schools mid season.

1863
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 4: We got kids transferring after week five and then going

1864
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 4: to show up and play quarterback on another team five

1865
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 4: days later. Like what you see happening is happening here

1866
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 4: in Charlotte. We have kids that want to come to

1867
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 4: Charlotte Christian. If we could get everyone in, it'd be

1868
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 4: a lot easier, but we can't. So you get in

1869
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 4: a couple here and there. But we don't have open enrollment.

1870
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 4: We don't have open admissions like some of the other

1871
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 4: schools we compete against. And the reality is this is

1872
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 4: the harder way to do it right, Like this is

1873
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 4: the this is a bigger grind, and we don't shy

1874
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 4: away from it. We're going to continue to coach the

1875
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 4: hell out of these kids. We're going to continue to

1876
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 4: coach our kids kids and build that core and build

1877
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 4: that you know, it's no different than at the college level.

1878
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: If you don't recruit well, you can only transfer portal

1879
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 4: your wish so much, high school football has become the

1880
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 4: transfer portal, at least here in North Carolina. There's always

1881
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 4: going to be an element of kids coming into the program.

1882
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 4: That's common. But you have to add good kids to

1883
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 4: an already very good core nucleus of players that understand

1884
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 4: your culture. That's the secret. You see it in college.

1885
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 4: It's no different than in the high school world.

1886
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: So this is again I'll clarify. I'll see if what

1887
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is correct, because this sounds like pretty

1888
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 3: big breaking news that Adam Schefter would cover. Charlotte Christian

1889
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 3: can feel good about having this staff in place in

1890
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: the middle school era for the next five years.

1891
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 4: I want to be clear. We are going to coach

1892
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: the middle school team one more year. Next year, we're

1893
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 4: going to get this current seventh grade class that we're

1894
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 4: coaching now, okay, he will get them to high school.

1895
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 4: How we manage doing. You know, do we start helping

1896
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: out with some of the JD stuff to allocate some

1897
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: time to there as these classes get older before they're

1898
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 4: ready for varsity.

1899
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1900
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: We will coach the middle school team, Okay, one more year,

1901
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 4: next year, get my younger son up to high school

1902
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: contracts up and maybe some sort of hybrid middle school

1903
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 4: JV type world while you know my kids are in

1904
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 4: ninth and tenth grade.

1905
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: This is this is exactly why Greg Olsen has such

1906
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: a great career on the podium and he's doing so great. Yeah,

1907
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: he's so well spoken. He said, we'll do the JV

1908
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: and we'll do the Pop Warner. But we know when

1909
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: it sounds like he doesn't want it, we're gonna have

1910
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: a head football coach for the high school coach James Is.

1911
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what's coming. I have, and I honestly

1912
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: don't blame him.

1913
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: I want to stay.

1914
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 4: When I start that rumor, we're putting that rumor to.

1915
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: Bed, and that you're doing a great job right now,

1916
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: you're doing a phenomenal job. We'll put the room in

1917
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: the bed. I'm gonna put the room.

1918
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 5: Be not.

1919
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 4: Eager, nor do I really want at whatever. I want

1920
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: to be a head high school coach. That is a

1921
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 4: twelve month of year job. I could not call my

1922
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 4: games like volunteering. Doing what we're doing now as a

1923
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 4: as a program accessory, as a program kind of helper

1924
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 4: is one thing. Coaching real high school ball, if you

1925
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 4: want to do it right, is a seven day a week,

1926
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 4: twelve month a year, full time job. I'm not doing that.

1927
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 4: Maybe Luke wants to do that. I'm not doing that

1928
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 4: right now.

1929
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 3: Some people saying you don't love it enough. Coachiley, Coach Kickley.

1930
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 3: When you have, you know this next year going into

1931
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 3: the final year your guys' contract, When you have seventh

1932
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: graders hitting the portal and wanting to visit Charlotte Christian,

1933
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 3: what is your message to them, knowing they're not going

1934
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 3: to get you for the full two years at Charlotte Christian.

1935
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 5: Well, they'll keep growing. We will still be part of

1936
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 5: the program. So they might not get us that year,

1937
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 5: but the next year will be still there. So they

1938
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 5: just got to continue to learn and play hard. And

1939
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 5: you want to come play real football, you gotta come

1940
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 5: a shark Christian.

1941
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: I love that.

1942
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 4: It's our slogan. We play real ball.

1943
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 3: We play. Yeah, hey, we have so, Luke And by

1944
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: the way, whenever this your guys a season ends again,

1945
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 3: invites on the table both you guys, Greg, you travel

1946
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: around a lot as well, but open invite to join

1947
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: the boys in.

1948
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: The locker room or NFL forty five minute flight really easy,

1949
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: We'll put you out the whole thing.

1950
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 3: Quick flight forty five minutes will feed you really well.

1951
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: Camaraderie will be high, will be with Clay Matthews and

1952
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: Delaney Walker. But where I'm taking you with this question.

1953
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 3: Clay Matthews has a very competitive kindergarten flag football team.

1954
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 3: He's under a lot of heat right now from the

1955
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: outside noise in the fan base and the parents that

1956
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 3: are with that team because he went in the championship

1957
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 3: Sunday and apparently didn't play all the kids because he

1958
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: was trying to win a football game. Now he's taking

1959
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 3: a lot of heat for not playing all the kids.

1960
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 3: Care to comment, both of you, guys.

1961
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 4: Derry Coacher's versus Night Fair. I'm shocked that there's not

1962
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 4: playtime rules. When we used to do the kids at

1963
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 4: the younger level, when we did Pop Warner, when Luke

1964
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 4: and I and my dad did Pop Warner. A couple

1965
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 4: of years ago. For a few years there was minimum

1966
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 4: playtime rep. So this was well like fifth and sixth grade.

1967
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 4: We had minimum plays and they had somebody who actually

1968
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 4: sat on the sideline with a clipboard and had to

1969
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 4: check off every kid had to play what ten plays?

1970
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 4: Ten plays? Minimum play time You've always had in the

1971
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 4: football world. There's been rules in place when we did

1972
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 4: flag football when the kids were small. Each kid had

1973
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: to play like a quarter or that whatever. There was

1974
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 4: like ways to quantify playing time. So I don't know, Listen,

1975
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 4: I'm not judging anyone. We have not always gotten it right.

1976
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 4: It's very easy to get caught up in the moment

1977
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 4: of trying to be competitive and trying to win at

1978
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 4: the you know, kinder kindergarten six year olds. Yeah, even

1979
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, let him get a rep. I mean, they

1980
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 4: don't have to get the ball.

1981
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: Greg greg play has lost sleep because that trophy. They

1982
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 3: lost the game they were in a they were in

1983
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 3: a tough one, and he's trying to win a game.

1984
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 3: All the kids don't get in. It's five on five.

1985
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 3: I think this team carries fourteen on the roster. It's

1986
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: a lot of games, but he's lost sleep over not

1987
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: having the championship, and after you know, he's still bleeding

1988
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 3: in a lot of parents, he's hearing a lot of

1989
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: noise he didn't play my kids.

1990
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: A lot of emails take place, a lot of random

1991
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: text messages from different area codesh coming out at him

1992
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: right now.

1993
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: So it's tough, Luke, Are you trying to win a

1994
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: football game or are you making your you getting all

1995
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 3: the boys in?

1996
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 4: Well, Luckily for us, we can get him in before

1997
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 4: the game starts.

1998
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 5: We play a fifth quarter, so all the kids we

1999
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 5: get twelve offensive snaps twelve defensive snaps before the game.

2000
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 5: We get all our kids in, so once the ball

2001
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 5: kicks off, we're trying to win a football game. The

2002
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 5: rules for the pop warner that Greg talked about helped

2003
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 5: us out a lot, and then that fifth quarter before

2004
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 5: the Christian game helps us out a lot because all

2005
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 5: the kids get an opportunity to get a couple reps

2006
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 5: every game, so they know they're going to get in.

2007
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 5: And then when we play the real game, we get

2008
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 5: our kids in there that can go play and help

2009
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 5: us win football game. So I think we just we

2010
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 5: owe it to the kids to go out and try

2011
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 5: our best to win the games, and if the score

2012
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 5: and the time in the game dictates it, we can

2013
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 5: put the other kids in and get other kids opportunities,

2014
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 5: because I think the best thing that we can do

2015
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 5: is try to prepare our seventh graders for live action

2016
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 5: next year. So it's the eighth grader and the older

2017
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 5: guy's job to help us get ahead, get a lead,

2018
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 5: and put those young kids in to give them an

2019
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 5: opportunity to play for next year.

2020
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: Just a couple of season bets. They knew all these

2021
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: questions were coming. They've read everything we've read as well.

2022
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 3: They did.

2023
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: They just know, they don't they know what they're doing. Absolutely.

2024
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm just shock you guys, since so much time on

2025
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 4: message boards.

2026
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Listen, that's what friends do. Greg Like, we sit there

2027
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: with Greg's friend might.

2028
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 4: Say, your friends, your message boards just trying to drive wedges.

2029
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 4: Do I have a buyout? Am I going to coach

2030
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: somewhere else?

2031
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: And they what what a friend?

2032
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 4: Look?

2033
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: Would a friend allow all that noise to keep happening

2034
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: or give you these to be able to sit there

2035
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: and say, listen, this is not true. This is true.

2036
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: So we're giving you guys a massive platform for you

2037
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: guys to say, Listen, I know everyone. Everyone's eyes aren't

2038
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Charlotte Pop Warner football right now, let us be very

2039
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: clear about Charlotte Christian Pop Warner, Boom Warner. Listen, it's

2040
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: under high school, it's Pop Warner. It's a blame, I

2041
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: think a thing. That's how it goes.

2042
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: I just think, how can I motivate these boys? How

2043
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 3: can I give them some Multimore material? How can I

2044
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: give them some fodder? You know, I know a lot

2045
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 3: of people from your area tune in. They want to

2046
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 3: know are we going to have a staff over the

2047
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: next few years. I'm trying to do my journalism as well.

2048
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 4: I think they tune in because they hope we lose.

2049
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: That's that's exactly where you want to be to. You

2050
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: kind of want to be hated in that world. You

2051
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: got you gotta love. Coach, go ahead, if you guys

2052
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: win this game. I don't know if the league gives

2053
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: you a trophy for going to feed or will you

2054
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: guys go out and get your team trophy? So hey,

2055
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: undefeated season maybe rings now, probably not.

2056
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 4: You know, I think that would go against everything we've

2057
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 4: preached to the boys all year. I want to make

2058
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 4: sure we're consistent, like playing to win and being out

2059
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,759
Speaker 4: there for the sole purpose of only caring about winning,

2060
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 4: I think are two very different things. Like we believe

2061
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 4: winning is a byproduct, like winning is a byproduct of

2062
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 4: how we prepare as coaches and the plan we put in,

2063
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 4: and then winning is a byproduct of how we practice

2064
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 4: today and then our film study that we're going to

2065
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 4: do after and how we and how we warm up

2066
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 4: and how we execute, Like we believe if we do

2067
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: all those things, winning will take care of itself, right,

2068
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 4: Like we will win if we do all of these things.

2069
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 4: We're not gonna sit here and say rule number one

2070
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 4: win because then I feel like we're losing all of

2071
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 4: the development. We're losing all of the pieces that we

2072
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 4: all understand prepares these kids to play in high school,

2073
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 4: prepares these kids to be really good varsity players at

2074
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 4: some point in the next couple of years. So if

2075
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 4: we win every game, great, If we don't win every game, fine,

2076
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 4: Like we understand what we signed up for. We're gonna

2077
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 4: try to win. We're gonna do everything in our power,

2078
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 4: and then after the game ends, sure we'd be seven

2079
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 4: and oh if we were fortunate enough to win, or

2080
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 4: we were six and in one if we weren't, And

2081
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 4: the conversation is, did we get better? Did we develop

2082
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 4: these kids? Did we develop an attitude and toughness around

2083
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 4: football that we can carry over into high school? Like

2084
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 4: we want to make sure all those things are right.

2085
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 4: We feel like if we do, all those things are

2086
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 4: odds of our winning any given game, this game two

2087
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: weeks ago, whenever it was, are in our favor. If

2088
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 4: we play well. If we don't play well, this team

2089
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 4: can beat us.

2090
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. If I have an air, I

2091
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 3: want to play for you tube?

2092
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 4: You do you do?

2093
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 3: I don't have an air. I don't have a boy.

2094
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 4: I thought you had a boy.

2095
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 3: No, two girls? Two girls?

2096
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 4: Girls? Got it? Then come on cheerleader squad?

2097
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, looks I love, I love, I love

2098
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I love him to cheer for your

2099
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 3: if I if I ever have a boy, I'm moving

2100
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 3: to Yeah.

2101
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 2: Perfect.

2102
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 4: You guys are all girls?

2103
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 3: All girls? Four girls come in the.

2104
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 4: Water on that bus.

2105
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: It's I think it's the size really than anything. Just

2106
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: there's always a I think it's the same. Who is

2107
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: it Tobb? I think it's yeah, But there's also like that.

2108
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 4: I think it's God's way of saying, like you're too

2109
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 4: massive generation.

2110
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're too massive, much masculine dogs.

2111
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: You are too much dogs playing on that grid iron.

2112
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: We have to give you a girl to calm yourself

2113
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: down a little bit.

2114
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 3: I love that.

2115
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: You guys, what talks a matter of football?

2116
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 3: Real quick?

2117
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 4: Yep? I got six minutes perfect.

2118
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Let's rapid fire Panthers go and beat the Dallas Cowboys.

2119
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense is absolutely terrible. But Bryce Young has

2120
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: himself a nice game. Are we going to be surprised

2121
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: after Bryce Underwood get Bryce Underwood, Bryce Young gets benched

2122
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 1: last year? Playing better?

2123
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 2: Now?

2124
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 1: Are we going to be surprised when the Carolina Panthers

2125
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 1: give him an extension.

2126
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 4: I think they got to figure out what they're gonna

2127
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 4: do with that fifth year option first.

2128
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 5: That's the big thing going into this offseason, and I

2129
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 5: think Dan Morgan and Bran Tillis and those guys in

2130
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 5: the front office are going to try to figure out

2131
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 5: what they want to do there.

2132
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 4: I think Bryce has played a lot better in spots.

2133
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 5: Obviously through the interception yesterday that wasn't his fault as

2134
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,560
Speaker 5: a slant that got dropped, and I thought at the

2135
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 5: end of the game. Bryce took us down at the

2136
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 5: six minutes to go to go score and win, so

2137
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 5: he's played better in spots. I think what all we're

2138
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 5: looking for from this team is just more consistency. I

2139
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 5: think we're good upfront. We've run the ball really well

2140
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 5: the past couple weeks, and for Bryce, I think it's

2141
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 5: protecting the football and more consistent. And we got plenty

2142
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 5: of games left to figure out what they want to do,

2143
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 5: so I think the biggest thing before an extension gets

2144
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 5: figured out is what do we do.

2145
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 4: With that fit your option? They'll have to figure that

2146
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 4: out this offseason.

2147
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 3: Have you watched much Dallas defense tape, Luke?

2148
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? They struggle, man, I mean, is it is it not.

2149
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: Like when I'm watching, Like I'm sitting there and it's

2150
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 3: surprising to me how stagnant the back end is on

2151
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 3: their pre snap keys and everything else they feel. I

2152
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: know that they've mixed in a lot more man recently,

2153
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 3: but those first several weeks, I feel like they're just

2154
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 3: kind of like they're just kind of showing you what

2155
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 3: they're doing. And they also they're so vanilla with Cover

2156
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 3: two and everything else. They're not. They don't have an

2157
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 3: all world roster, but they're not doing anything you know,

2158
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 3: defensive philosophy wise that like help them out, you know

2159
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,759
Speaker 3: when they're gonna blitz because they're all lined up across

2160
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. But are you surprised when you're

2161
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 3: watching kind of this Dallas team operate defensively.

2162
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think, you know, watching it, especially last

2163
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 5: week against the Jets and then watching some of the

2164
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 5: game yesterday, a lot too high shell with two deep safeties.

2165
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 5: And for us, that's what we do best is run

2166
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 5: the ball from under center. So anytime we get that

2167
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 5: two deep shell like that, Bryce is either checking into

2168
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 5: a run or sticking with the run. And on first

2169
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 5: down we are averaging almost seven yards of play and

2170
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 5: a lot of it was based on the run game.

2171
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 5: And then we have the ability to throw some play

2172
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 5: action off of it. And I think for us, you

2173
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 5: take a light box with our offensive line what Rico

2174
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 5: has been able to do. And I tell you the

2175
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 5: biggest thing us yesterday is I think Dave Canalison Izay

2176
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 5: have done a great job of dialing plays up and

2177
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 5: calling plays and calling him at the right at the

2178
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 5: right moment. So yeah, Dallas has struggled defensively this year obviously,

2179
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 5: but I think those guys in the.

2180
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 4: Offensive side of the ball did a really good job

2181
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 4: of calling stuff.

2182
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: Heading over to the NFC East, you got the Giants

2183
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: defeating the Eagles on Thursday Night football, largely due to

2184
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: the CREA team Caucasians, Camp Scattaboo and Jackson Dart. Do

2185
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: you think the way both those guys play definitely not

2186
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 1: sustainable long term? However, right now it's the most electric

2187
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: thing we're watching in football. Do you think think they

2188
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: can will this Giants team into possibly being I'm not

2189
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna say NFC East Championship, you still the Commander's there,

2190
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 1: but maybe a wild seventh, you know, make the playoffs.

2191
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: Can you see it happening?

2192
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you could see anything happen. I

2193
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 4: mean I saw them before dark even took over. Again.

2194
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 4: Coming off what we're just talking about with the Cowboys offense,

2195
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 4: they very well should have another win. I mean, they

2196
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 4: lost by a sixty four yarder at the end of

2197
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 4: regulation in a game they scored forty in overtime against

2198
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 4: Dallas in Dallas when Russ went off and threw for

2199
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 4: a thousand yards or whatever.

2200
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 6: You know.

2201
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 4: So I mean we've seen them play well. I think

2202
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 4: their defense is really good. Obviously, Scataboo and Jackson Darton

2203
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 4: now are the toast of the town, as they should.

2204
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 4: They're fun, they don't take themselves too serious. They're letting

2205
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 4: them loose. All that is all fun as long as

2206
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 4: you continue to win. But I think defensively, I think

2207
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 4: they're pretty nasty, right. I think that Brian Burns trade

2208
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 4: is obviously paid off. I know he was leading the

2209
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 4: league in sacks? Is he still I don't hit another

2210
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 4: one though he was going into yesterday. I don't know

2211
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 4: where he stands now. But you know, a duel Carter

2212
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 4: Cavon Thibodeau's and playing well. Obviously they got big dex

2213
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: Dexter Lawrence in the inside. So I mean that defense

2214
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 4: they invested in heavily is playing really well. And then

2215
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 4: obviously Skataboo and Jackson Dart have given them a little juice,

2216
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 4: given them a little energy. I think losing neighbors at

2217
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 4: some point, not having that go to guy is gonna

2218
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 4: catch up to you at some point. But listen, can

2219
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 4: I see them sneaking in as a seventh seed? Yeah?

2220
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 4: I mean why not? I mean, we've seen teams that

2221
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 4: don't even have a winning record. We've been on one.

2222
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 4: We made a playoffs without a winning record. So you

2223
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 4: never know in the league what I bank on it

2224
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 4: probably not. I still think Philadelphia figures it out. I

2225
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 4: still think Washington is a good team. Dallas is a threat.

2226
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 4: Just because they're gonna score thirty a game, you're gonna

2227
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 4: have to win in a shootout. At least that's what

2228
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 4: it shows. So the division still challenging, which always makes

2229
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:55,839
Speaker 4: the path a little bit more difficult.

2230
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 3: What you're doing to camp Scataboo in the a gab luke.

2231
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 4: With good angle. He's a young guy, he's a rookie.

2232
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 4: You can't let a rookie run through dude.

2233
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 3: Hey do you see uh do you see the Zach

2234
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 3: vond clip on the sideline back to backs? Right? He's

2235
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 3: physical man, bro physical, kind of had Zach on the side, shoulder.

2236
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 5: Down the checko just wants to run through your face. Yeah,

2237
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 5: that's how Scataboy is. He's the same exact way. Yeah,

2238
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 5: he loves the contact.

2239
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 3: Oh loves it. You see him just having a helmet on,

2240
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,560
Speaker 3: just head button, a brick wall and the outside. His

2241
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 3: mom came out and said he used to put on

2242
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 3: his older brother's shoulder pads when he was little and

2243
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 3: just go run into the telephone pole.

2244
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, not not sustainable, but oh my god,

2245
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: this is going to be the most electric four or

2246
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 1: five of your career we ever see a camp'scatabilly.

2247
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 3: Dude, what do you guys? What are you seeing from

2248
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles. I feel like they have the problems

2249
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 3: are kind of coming to the surface. I feel like

2250
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 3: they are four and two right now, could easily be

2251
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: a one in five football team. If Cede Lamb catches

2252
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 3: the deep ball in Week one, if they don't block

2253
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 3: the field goal last field field goal, Yeah, field goals

2254
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 3: against the Rams. They don't block a pun against the

2255
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously I'm reaching more with that one,

2256
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 3: But to me, it seems like all the stuff is

2257
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 3: coming to the surface about the Philadelphia Eagles. There's a

2258
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 3: lot of frustration. It seems like Jalen Hurts is holding

2259
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 3: on to the football, just not spinning it when he

2260
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 3: has the opportunity. What are you seeing when you watch

2261
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 3: that game?

2262
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've called a lot of their games over the years.

2263
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 4: I think their rosters as good, if not better, than

2264
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 4: anybody in the league. I think offensively, some of these

2265
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 4: conversations have been going on for a while. I think

2266
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 4: they still got to figure out their passing game. I

2267
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 4: think last year when Saquon's busting seventy five yard touchdowns

2268
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 4: what seemed like a weekly clip, at least through the playoffs,

2269
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 4: it was. It can kind of hip little things. When

2270
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 4: you're that explosive in the run game, it makes up

2271
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 4: for some limitations in the passing game. Personnel wise. In

2272
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 4: the passing game, there's no reason they shouldn't be better.

2273
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 4: Talent wise. The two receivers got it. They got the

2274
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 4: best two tackles in the league combo, so they should

2275
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 4: be better. The thing that surprised me the most against

2276
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 4: the Giants was the defense. Like I I you know

2277
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 4: that Vic Fangioe. They're talented, they're young, I know they

2278
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 4: Obviously they didn't have I don't think Carter played right.

2279
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 4: Jalen Carter's play was out against the Giants. Obviously, JA

2280
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 4: that made an issue. But like I think, defensively is

2281
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 4: where they got to get back to being dominant. Right

2282
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 4: you look back at last year the Super Bowl run

2283
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 4: top defense in the league, a uniquely explosive running game,

2284
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 4: and then the next factor was we still could get

2285
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 4: vertical on you in the passing game.

2286
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 3: D A. J.

2287
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 4: Brown and DeVante DeVante Smith and and hit Chump plays.

2288
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 4: So like, when your explosive passing game is your like

2289
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 4: third best thing you do, you're gonna be hard to beat.

2290
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 4: I think that was last year's journey. So if the

2291
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 4: defense and they can't get Saquon going, now, all of

2292
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 4: a sudden, there's a lot more emphasis on the passing game.

2293
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest difference between this year

2294
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 4: and last year.

2295
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

2296
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: I know you got to get out of here. The

2297
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: last thing I'll ask you about is Kansas City Chiefs.

2298
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: They got Rashid Rice back this week. They've had a

2299
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: dominant win over the Lions, who we all thought was

2300
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. Well, the Chiefs back,

2301
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: what do you think.

2302
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 4: I think they have a lot more weapons than they

2303
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 4: have in the past.

2304
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 5: They got Worthy, Hollywood, Brown, Kelsey played well, Pacheco, Kareem

2305
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 5: Hunt sounds like it looks like like Mahomes is playing

2306
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 5: better last night. And then they can rush the pass

2307
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 5: from the defense side of the ball. So I think

2308
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 5: they played some close games earlier. They lost by a

2309
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 5: real small margin in those first few weeks, and I

2310
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, I don't think you can ever

2311
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 5: count those guys back, count those guys out. And now

2312
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 5: they have a more physical presence on the inside, I

2313
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:27,759
Speaker 5: think they're gonna.

2314
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 2: Be just fine.

2315
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 3: Anything sneaky you're seeing in the NFL right now that

2316
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 3: you're like, hey, this is a team that's going to,

2317
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 3: you know, be the cream of the crop come the

2318
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 3: end of the yea.

2319
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 4: I think Tampa Bay is really good. I think if

2320
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 4: they could ever get healthy, they don't have anybody. I mean,

2321
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 4: they don't have a soul out there. And I know

2322
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 4: San Francisco obviously was too, so give them, you know.

2323
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 3: I hate that Fred Warner went down, dude, I know, disgusting.

2324
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: Did forty nine ers just seem like they cannot escape

2325
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 4: the injury curse? But this goes back years. But Tampa Bay,

2326
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 4: I mean, Mike and stand on the side room. I

2327
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 4: think god Win they lost, and Buka and Beck, I

2328
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 4: mean they they have I think Bucky Bucky Irving was

2329
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 4: out like there, I didn't did Worst not play too?

2330
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 1: I know that works played the last year I got

2331
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 1: home from.

2332
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 4: My game, and I kind of watched it in passing

2333
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 4: as I was getting organized. But like the point being,

2334
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 4: Baker might be the MVP of the league right now,

2335
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 4: in the top two or three. He's literally willing them

2336
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 4: to win. And were they five and one? I mean

2337
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 4: they're they're really good.

2338
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 3: Yeah that that that run on third and what fourteen?

2339
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:39,919
Speaker 3: It's hot from Baker Mayfield.

2340
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: God, he is the truly willingest team to win. Guys,

2341
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: good luck.

2342
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 4: I thought this was a nice treat.

2343
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 3: Oh dude, it was.

2344
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,799
Speaker 1: This is awesome. This is everything more you could possibly

2345
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: ask for in a Monday morning.

2346
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 3: That's that's my king. That's my king right there. When

2347
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 3: Fred Warner went down with yesterday, it felt like any time,

2348
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 3: you know, Luke would go down and I'm like, man,

2349
01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 3: he's gonna play the next week's out for the season,

2350
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 3: and just kind of breaks your fucking heart. That's right.

2351
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: The boys all eyes on the championship. I know it's

2352
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: not technically a championship.

2353
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 3: But we're rooting for you.

2354
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Ignore the noise, ignore the noise. We love you, guys.

2355
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 4: Don't worry.

2356
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 3: We're doing We'll keep the reddit. People love you, bro.

2357
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 4: That was fun.

2358
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 3: See you Luke. Yeah, all right, we just finished up

2359
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 3: with Greg Olsen talking. You know, obviously we sat there

2360
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 3: and talked all youth sports. We talked a couple of

2361
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 3: the NFL games, We talked a lot of We had

2362
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 3: a lot of conversation with the upcoming potential coaching carousel,

2363
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 3: carrousele carrals carousel. I know I've struggled with that word

2364
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 3: in the past. We'll get to a lot more football

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Speaker 3: talking tomorrow's episode. We're gonna do a big time. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna be talking to October. We're gonna be talking checking

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Speaker 3: in with the fans. A lot of our tear talk

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Speaker 3: will be on tomorrow's episode because I know we only

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Speaker 3: got to a couple today. We have a lot, we

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Speaker 3: have a lot to cover that'll be on tomorrow's episode.

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Speaker 3: Uh but yeah, man, big hugs, tiny cases. We will

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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. I hope you enjoyed the episode with

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Speaker 3: Josh Pate, Greg Olsen, and Mike King, Louke Keighley, Big Ucks,

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