Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. What's Up? Welcome to Good Calls. I'm
Speaker 1: Dean Blandino, as always, joined by Travis Hansen. Hey Dean,
Speaker 1: how are you doing it? I'm good? How are you? Travis?
Speaker 1: And on audio Joe Madrid. What's up? Guys? Now much?
Speaker 1: Going into week eight NFL Week A, we got a
Speaker 1: great show. We're gonna talk NFL, We're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little college football, and uh, we got a special guest.
Speaker 1: Warren Sap is going to join us. Please please please
Speaker 1: stick around for that interview. We talked about everything, we
Speaker 1: talk about the you, we talked about NFL rules, and
Speaker 1: we talk about Warren's advice when dealing with wild animals. Okay,
Speaker 1: so stick around for that. It's a wild card. You
Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get. Yeah, good one, Travis.
Speaker 1: All right. So let's but what I want to do
Speaker 1: before we go into week eight? Can we take a
Speaker 1: step back and and just a little step back in time?
Speaker 1: And I made a prediction at the end of last
Speaker 1: week's show, Joe, can you can you play that for us? Please?
Speaker 1: As much as I hate too, I will please thank
Speaker 1: you I think we're gonna get a past inference reversal
Speaker 1: next week. So that was me predicting that we were
Speaker 1: going to get a past inference reversal. Now we had,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. We haven't had a pass in
Speaker 1: aferance reversal since week four. Forty eight total reviews going
Speaker 1: into week eight, only seven reverse So so not not
Speaker 1: very likely that that prediction would come true. If you're
Speaker 1: handicapping that, Joe, what are you putting the odds at.
Speaker 1: I'm probably putting that at about plus thirty six. Boom,
Speaker 1: I throw a hundred down and and I walk away
Speaker 1: with a clean thirty six hundred dollars right there. So
Speaker 1: that's four testa payments. Baby, Okay, we're not talking about
Speaker 1: Tesla's alright. So, because we did have a reversal. Denver, Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: big play, t Y Hilton third down incomplete pass, gets
Speaker 1: his arm grab, Cody sents about the dB for the Broncos,
Speaker 1: grabs his left arm. T Y can't get to the
Speaker 1: football Colts challenge and they and they add the foul,
Speaker 1: they create the foul and replay and and I think
Speaker 1: we all let's applause. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, it was not for me because I made
Speaker 1: the prediction that they actually created a foul and replay. Look,
Speaker 1: this is pasting infairance. This this is a call that
Speaker 1: that should have been made on the field, and they
Speaker 1: did a nice job adding it. But again, we've seen
Speaker 1: some going into this in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: that we're also pasting infairance that we're not that we're
Speaker 1: not overturned overturned. And I think the one thing probably
Speaker 1: if we're looking for a common denominator, I think in
Speaker 1: some of these calls that have been overturned and and
Speaker 1: we had to go back to early in the season,
Speaker 1: it's if the receiver's arm is compromised in some way
Speaker 1: where it's only one arm getting up to be able
Speaker 1: to get to the get to the football, I think
Speaker 1: they're more likely to put the flag down and replay.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we saw in UH in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis on Sunday and UH and so we saw our reversals.
Speaker 1: Now we're up to eight for the season so far,
Speaker 1: and and and let's see, let's see where we end
Speaker 1: up at the end of the year. Just a quick
Speaker 1: summary on penalties going into Week eight, where we were
Speaker 1: up eighteen point zero three per game that's accepted declined offset.
Speaker 1: So that's all all fouls that are called UM eighteen
Speaker 1: point oh three compared to fifteen point seven six at
Speaker 1: this time last year. So up, pretty good clip, you know,
Speaker 1: to a little bit over to a game. And when
Speaker 1: you look at the penalties that are up significantly, offensive
Speaker 1: holding rough in the past, our offensive past interference, illegal
Speaker 1: hands to the face, and defensive holding are all up
Speaker 1: this year. One one interesting fact we were we did
Speaker 1: a little did a little day aging and uh this year.
Speaker 1: One interesting stat that if you commit, if you commit
Speaker 1: fewer penalties, then your opponent what what percentage of time
Speaker 1: do you think you're winning the game? Travis, You commit
Speaker 1: fewer penalties. And I tweeted this out, by the way,
Speaker 1: and when I tweeted it, I said, commit less penalties,
Speaker 1: and I had the grammar police tweeted me that, oh
Speaker 1: it's fewer, and just just accept the stats. Stop being grammatically.
Speaker 1: Um a jerk off, But anyway, UM, fewer penalties. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gotta be like sixty forty Joe, what
Speaker 1: do you think I'd go? Set? Okay, So when you
Speaker 1: commit fewer penalties, just this season, but it's not that
Speaker 1: far off from where your historical numbers are. If you
Speaker 1: commit fewer penalties than your opponent, you're winning the game
Speaker 1: forty so actually less than fifty right at fifty when
Speaker 1: you commit fewer penalties. Now, let's take another stat when
Speaker 1: you commit fewer turnovers than your opponent. Where do you
Speaker 1: think that is percentage wise? Win winning percentage? Can I
Speaker 1: would say, I'm gonna go so seventy seven one percent.
Speaker 1: So next time you complain about your team having more
Speaker 1: fouls more penalties than than your opponent, it's not that
Speaker 1: big a deal when you look at it statistically, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's actually turnovers that are going to be the key
Speaker 1: um when you talk about wins and losses. So commit
Speaker 1: those penalties at end of games and crucial situations. But
Speaker 1: sometimes those penalties overturn a turnover. So well, there's no
Speaker 1: question penalties impact, penalties impact games, no question. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that there's always this this talk, and usually on
Speaker 1: social media. There were thirteen calls against our team and
Speaker 1: only eight against the other team or six three or whatever.
Speaker 1: Statistically speaking, that's not a big driver in terms of
Speaker 1: your team winning or lose saying, obviously, the more disciplined
Speaker 1: teams over time are going to be more successful. But
Speaker 1: our goal here is to get people to stop tweeting
Speaker 1: the refs are killing us. Thank you very much, Thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Travis, and and stop turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: You throw five picks, you deserve to lose another. We've
Speaker 1: been tracking this and Travis is really he's he's super
Speaker 1: into this. So I'll let Travis talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about this, the on side kicks, and he's really he's
Speaker 1: taken kind of this is his baby this year, and
Speaker 1: he's very, very concerned about the success rates of on
Speaker 1: side kicks. So so we had we had two so
Speaker 1: far and week eight and and neither was successful. So
Speaker 1: that that gets us to what for the year, Travis,
Speaker 1: in terms of percentage, in terms of percentages success rates, well,
Speaker 1: it's three percent. So we got one out of six.
Speaker 1: That's that's not good. So not good. And when we
Speaker 1: talk about last year, so two thou eighteen, significant changes
Speaker 1: of the kickoff um made it made it a little
Speaker 1: bit harder, that much harder to to make that onside kick.
Speaker 1: To get that on side kick where you didn't have
Speaker 1: a run up, you had to be on at least
Speaker 1: one yard or or on the thirty four basically with
Speaker 1: both feet down and you couldn't lift a foot before
Speaker 1: that ball was kicked. And so it dropped from historical
Speaker 1: percentage of eight percent last year and now'ur at three
Speaker 1: point eight and so something to continue to watch. Four
Speaker 1: as we as we move forward with um on side kicks,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before. All the side kicks
Speaker 1: are are really important. They promote you know, comebacks without
Speaker 1: the onside kick, without the ability to get the ball back,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you're out of time outs, then
Speaker 1: then we don't have these close games and teams are
Speaker 1: basically done if they're down you know, two or more
Speaker 1: scores late in the games. As much as I see
Speaker 1: these these on side kicks going down like this, I
Speaker 1: I just wonder in Europinian Dean, what do you think
Speaker 1: the league has to see, like what percentage was? Do
Speaker 1: you see a change Like we've talked about, we don't
Speaker 1: want to see the gimmicky you know, fourth and twelve play,
Speaker 1: but it's got they may go to that because you're
Speaker 1: seeing these other leagues do something like that. What do
Speaker 1: you think, Well, I I think if if there's only
Speaker 1: one successful onside kick for the whole season. I think
Speaker 1: that's a problem. The problem, that's a major problem. Now again,
Speaker 1: you you don't one season. Is it's not a it's
Speaker 1: not a my favorite word, a huge sample size, but
Speaker 1: it's it would be enough to say, if we're if
Speaker 1: we're let's say one for forty, you know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about you know, one percent, you know, something like that,
Speaker 1: that would be something the league would have to look at.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what happens. We're we're at the
Speaker 1: midway point, and uh, and hopefully we get a couple
Speaker 1: of onside kicks successful on side kicks and and we
Speaker 1: bring that percentage up because you know, i'd hate to
Speaker 1: see something gimmicky, you know, on the the kickoff is
Speaker 1: is a big part of the game. And uh and
Speaker 1: you know, and I think the on side kick obviously,
Speaker 1: players safety is is your primary is your primary focus.
Speaker 1: But I'd love to see the some more successful kicks
Speaker 1: going forward. It used to be such an exciting play
Speaker 1: to kickoff and the punt return, and now you you
Speaker 1: rarely get kickoff returns and punt returns to start penalties
Speaker 1: on every play and now taking with the on sides.
Speaker 1: It's like the kicking games almost becoming obsolete. You sound
Speaker 1: like somebody. You sound like one of these fans that, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a penalty on every kick return and da da.
Speaker 1: You don't sound like somebody that spends a lot of
Speaker 1: time with one of the premier experts and officiating in
Speaker 1: the I don't know the world Mike prayers for that one.
Speaker 1: Like Joe, I wish you guys could have seen. Joe.
Speaker 1: Joe was like, oh my God, salivating over here too.
Speaker 1: Copportunity joke, Joe joke. Alright, we're talking about on a
Speaker 1: word count on a lot of a lot of talking
Speaker 1: about kickers, kickers or football players too. So what did
Speaker 1: we see in the in the in the forty niner game?
Speaker 1: Is what seven? And oh yeah, seven? And oh look
Speaker 1: at that. Mitch Wishnowski, the forty Niners kicker got called
Speaker 1: for use of the helmet making a tackle on a
Speaker 1: kickoff return. Anybody named Mitch Wishnowski should not be getting
Speaker 1: personal fouls and professional football games. But um, you know
Speaker 1: this was the new rule that was adopted last year
Speaker 1: or two years ago. Actually lower in the head and
Speaker 1: uh and initiating contact with the with the crown or
Speaker 1: or any part of the helmet really to any part
Speaker 1: of the body. This was a tough call. It didn't
Speaker 1: look like um, Mitch or or Wishnowski as his friends
Speaker 1: call him, um, really look like he took the brunt
Speaker 1: of the hit that the returner actually was the one
Speaker 1: that dipped his head. But again, typically, and when those
Speaker 1: types of calls they're there, the officials are going to
Speaker 1: focus more on the player, the defensive player, and then
Speaker 1: the offensive player. That's just the way, that's just the
Speaker 1: way it's been. But Mitch was called for um use
Speaker 1: of helmet and uh, but you know, my I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't want, I don't like to revel in people's misfortune.
Speaker 1: But it was just interesting that, you know, the Bears
Speaker 1: are our buddy Eddie Panero, who we talked about after
Speaker 1: the Broncos game, who was like, how excited was he
Speaker 1: when he made that kick? You actually called that too,
Speaker 1: you did write you didn't he didn't go grammatica style
Speaker 1: where he blow out his knee, but he was. He
Speaker 1: was super excited, and look, I get it. It was
Speaker 1: so early in the season though it was the bears
Speaker 1: first win. He wins the game with a kick against
Speaker 1: the Broncos, and it was like he was he had
Speaker 1: the key to the city, right they were they were
Speaker 1: interview him and I said at the time, I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: that's a tough, tough job an NFL kicker, and you're
Speaker 1: only as good as your last kick. And I said this,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an opportunity to win a game again
Speaker 1: or tie a game late in the game, and you
Speaker 1: better make that kick. And because you can become you know,
Speaker 1: you could become persona on graded pretty quick. And I
Speaker 1: think we saw that today and uh at home in
Speaker 1: Soldier Field missing that kick against the uh the charge
Speaker 1: he said after the game he was trying to play
Speaker 1: the win. He just he didn't strike it well and
Speaker 1: he didn't make it. So yeah, and and look, and
Speaker 1: it's a hard job. And kickers they're like kickers are
Speaker 1: like officials. Really, they're like officials. They only get noticed
Speaker 1: when they make a mistake, and you don't really you know,
Speaker 1: but even that, I would say, officials don't get Yeah,
Speaker 1: but officials don't get carried off the field when they
Speaker 1: make it good, when they throw a flag. That's correct.
Speaker 1: I think the lesson here is don't get too high,
Speaker 1: don't get too low. That's kind of how Travis is
Speaker 1: in life. Travis keeps us very you know on like
Speaker 1: I'll get a little excited in the studio and I'll
Speaker 1: start talking about something that has nothing to do with football,
Speaker 1: and Travis will bring bring me back to square one
Speaker 1: and say, I mean, all the people from Fox that
Speaker 1: are listening, we're talking football all the time, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: But you know, life of a kicker. You know a
Speaker 1: guy that is the greatest kicker. I don't care what
Speaker 1: anybody says. This is the greatest kicker of all time.
Speaker 1: And he's been getting he's been getting a lot of
Speaker 1: flak lately because he missed some extra points and he's
Speaker 1: he look, he's on the back end of his career,
Speaker 1: no question. But Adam Vinitary today again showed us why
Speaker 1: he's the best kicker of all time. Nailed the fifty
Speaker 1: one yard or to win the game against against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: The Broncos have been on the uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: wrong end of these game winning kicks this year, but
Speaker 1: um here makes an extra point. Earlier in the game.
Speaker 1: He missed an extra point, but when it counted as
Speaker 1: he made it. That guy has made so many pressure kicks,
Speaker 1: whether it's in the snow against the Raiders in two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, these one super bowls, multiple Super Bowls
Speaker 1: with kicks at the end of the game, and the
Speaker 1: guy's stud and uh and we will, you know. Talking
Speaker 1: about our interview a little later, Warrant Sapp does mention
Speaker 1: the need for a kicker at the University of Miami
Speaker 1: and how they're in a downturn with kickers. So QB
Speaker 1: killer talking kickers, I still have four years of eligibility
Speaker 1: that yeah, Joe thinks, yeah, Joe thinks he can make
Speaker 1: a thirty three yard or with no kicking experience, So
Speaker 1: we will. We will bring him out onto a high
Speaker 1: school field, the local high school field, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him three shots to make one thirty
Speaker 1: three yarder. I don't think he's gonna make one. Neither
Speaker 1: one of us think he's gonna make one. Will record it,
Speaker 1: will post it. But we're gonna do that in the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. And uh, and we'll share that.
Speaker 1: But Joe, you and I should kick as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll kick absolutely. I can't wait for this day. I'll
Speaker 1: kick for that. UM, let's go to our head scratcher
Speaker 1: call of the week. We're still waiting for Murray's to
Speaker 1: to reach out to us so they can be the
Speaker 1: sponsor for the head scratcher DM. Just you know they're on.
Speaker 1: Does Murray's on? Do they have a Twitter accounts? Check that?
Speaker 1: I just need to follow them. But yeah, let's follow them.
Speaker 1: But let's get to the head scratcher. Tampa Bay, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: This is a big, big call in this game. It's
Speaker 1: late in the game. UM, fourth and two and Tennessee
Speaker 1: lines up for a field goal attempt and they fake it.
Speaker 1: So the holder who's actually the punter, Brett Kern, he
Speaker 1: takes the snap and he and he tries to run
Speaker 1: for a first down, gets crushed by Devin White. Ball
Speaker 1: comes out, it's picked up by the Bucks and they
Speaker 1: return it for what could be a touchdown, but unfortunately
Speaker 1: the down judge covering the play ruled current down by contact. Now, look,
Speaker 1: it's a tough play because you've got the line of
Speaker 1: game involved. You're it's a fake field goal, so you
Speaker 1: have to transition quickly as an official. You know where
Speaker 1: your where your focus is on a field goal especially
Speaker 1: the down judge who's on the line of scrimmage. That
Speaker 1: down judge has to be looking down the line, making
Speaker 1: sure that the offense is lined up properly, looking in
Speaker 1: at the football, making sure the defense doesn't jump offside.
Speaker 1: And now it completely shifts. We get a snap, Now
Speaker 1: you have a run toward the down judge. The line
Speaker 1: of game is right there. He has to rule on it.
Speaker 1: He makes the ruling. Unfortunately, replay showed it was a fumble.
Speaker 1: Nothing replay can do there and and and ends up
Speaker 1: taking away at what would have been a touchdown against
Speaker 1: the Bucks and they lose the game by by four points.
Speaker 1: And we've been down this road before this year. Um,
Speaker 1: we had a game the rate the Rams and the
Speaker 1: Saints where it was a past fumble situation and uh
Speaker 1: and the official, the referee blew it dead and ruled
Speaker 1: in complete past took away a touchdown from the Saints,
Speaker 1: and again, nothing you can do and replay. And it's
Speaker 1: one of those deals where again you teach the officials
Speaker 1: you've got to be sure if you're gonna put that
Speaker 1: player down and uh, and look the official you don't.
Speaker 1: It's it's a tough, tough deal because you don't want
Speaker 1: officials being indecisive based on the replay. You don't want
Speaker 1: an official to not make a decision because replay they're
Speaker 1: thinking replay can bowl them out. So that official made
Speaker 1: a decision he thought he saw the runner down. Um,
Speaker 1: it happens quickly and obviously he wasn't down. So again,
Speaker 1: I think we saw after that Rams Saints play. Um,
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of plays get let go, officials
Speaker 1: really not being somewhat hesitant. And I think we may
Speaker 1: see that again, we may see plays being let go.
Speaker 1: And and again, if you're not sure, you should always
Speaker 1: let it go. But you want officials to make decisions
Speaker 1: and you don't want them to to rely on replay
Speaker 1: and for that to be a crutch. Ye, the league
Speaker 1: did a report on that didn't add much to it,
Speaker 1: just saying that's what was called on the field and
Speaker 1: it's not reviewable. Yeah, and and for those of you
Speaker 1: that that haven't you know, don't know what a pool
Speaker 1: report is, that's an opportunity. Look, they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: let the officials speak to the media after a game.
Speaker 1: No sport does that. And uh, but there is an
Speaker 1: opportunity for um, a pool reporter who can go to
Speaker 1: the officials locker room, asked the referee um some specific
Speaker 1: questions about a situation and then relay that information to
Speaker 1: the rest of the media. And so again they don't
Speaker 1: put the officials up on a podium or a press
Speaker 1: conference or anything like that. But there is a mechanism
Speaker 1: in place, not a lot in that pool report. Referee
Speaker 1: Adrian Hill just talked about what the ruling was, what
Speaker 1: what happened and uh and what could have happened in replay.
Speaker 1: But again, tough, it's tough play. Tough way to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, have a you know, really what should have
Speaker 1: been a touchdown taken away. Let's uh, let's go take
Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little college football. Number five Oklahoma goes down college football
Speaker 1: playoff chances maybe fading away, and we'll come back with
Speaker 1: Brandon Blandino inside the Cube in our Warren Sap interview.
Speaker 1: Next on Good Calls. All right, we're back on Good
Speaker 1: Calls with Dean Blandino. That's me. Let's talk a little
Speaker 1: college football play the weekend. Really, um, number five Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: this is a team that that from the Big twelve perspective,
Speaker 1: this is their best chance to get into the college
Speaker 1: football Playoff. And uh, they go into Case State, not
Speaker 1: a game that you would think UM was even gonna
Speaker 1: be close. I mean, Case Stay really in a in
Speaker 1: a stur pretty good. They're playing pretty good ball. I
Speaker 1: mean they've got a they've got a great I mean
Speaker 1: that's a good head coach that they got there after
Speaker 1: having Bill Schneider there forever. And uh, but when you
Speaker 1: talk about Chris climbing, but UM goes down to the
Speaker 1: had a big lead in the fourth quarter, Oklahoma climbs
Speaker 1: their way back. They have an onside kick opportunity, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's the ruling on the field is that Oklahoma recovered
Speaker 1: it legally. It goes to review and gets overturned. It
Speaker 1: I'm literally I'm looking at it again for the six
Speaker 1: d time. All right, I'm watching it again and the
Speaker 1: here's the deal. The ball hits the Oklahoma player before
Speaker 1: it goes ten yards. So that's a foul for illegal touching.
Speaker 1: But what everybody wanted to talk about, and this made
Speaker 1: its way around social media. Somebody gets in the rule
Speaker 1: book and they find this rule, which is a rule
Speaker 1: and this is in rule six, which deals with UM
Speaker 1: kicks and we're talking about free kicks here. Kickoffs, it's
Speaker 1: forced touch disregarded. So the rule states a player blocked
Speaker 1: by an opponent into a free kick is not while
Speaker 1: in bounds deemed to have touched the kicks. So the
Speaker 1: question was did the k State player blocked the Oklahoma
Speaker 1: player into the football. Therefore, if he was forced and
Speaker 1: blocked in, then that he would be deemed not to
Speaker 1: have touched it. And I've looked at this thing a
Speaker 1: million times. This is a collision that happens at full speed.
Speaker 1: The Oklahoma player is moving toward the football, the Case
Speaker 1: State players moving towards the football. They both lower their shoulders.
Speaker 1: There's a second Oklahoma player that contacts the Case State player.
Speaker 1: It's a collision. It's impossible to say that the Case
Speaker 1: State player forced the Oklahoma player into the football. Replay
Speaker 1: can look at the aspect of the touching. They can't
Speaker 1: look at forced touching. They made the right call. Unfortuly
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma fans, that was the right call. And when
Speaker 1: you're talking about force touching, what you're really talking about
Speaker 1: is a player that is passive. And what I mean
Speaker 1: by that as a player that is not is not
Speaker 1: engaging an opponent is not trying to block, is just
Speaker 1: trying to stand there. And you typically see this on
Speaker 1: punts with a returner will just stand there and then
Speaker 1: the kicking team will try to push that player into
Speaker 1: the football. Well, if you push that player into the football,
Speaker 1: then he's deemed not to have touched it. And look,
Speaker 1: it's a tough call, but again it was the right
Speaker 1: call and uh, and the player did touch it before
Speaker 1: it went in and uh, you know, the ball was
Speaker 1: given back to KSE State and KSE State ended up
Speaker 1: running out the clock and winning the game. And it's
Speaker 1: again tough, tough way to lose the game, but you
Speaker 1: give up forty eight points, You're gonna lose a lot
Speaker 1: of football games. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So so, even
Speaker 1: with that Oklahoma player that comes in second, he makes
Speaker 1: that big contact pushing everybody, and if he pushes the
Speaker 1: KSE State guy into the ball, the same the same
Speaker 1: rules to apply there. Well, again, you you can't push
Speaker 1: the the ideas either team. You can't force an opponent
Speaker 1: into into the kick. But it would have to be
Speaker 1: something where that player is just passive, and none of
Speaker 1: those players you watched that play, nobody's passive. On this play,
Speaker 1: they're all moving toward the football, they're all engaging with
Speaker 1: each other. It's a collision that happens at full speed,
Speaker 1: and it's impossible to say that that any of those
Speaker 1: players forced the other player into the football. Um but again,
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma player touched it and and and you can't
Speaker 1: touch it. The kicking team is not eligible to touch
Speaker 1: it until either the receiving team touches it first or
Speaker 1: it goes ten yards. Then that ball becomes you know,
Speaker 1: they they can touch it legally, and uh yeah, ball
Speaker 1: went over to Case State, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: the right call. So in that process, though, how long
Speaker 1: did it take during the actual time, how long did
Speaker 1: that review take? It took a while, And I think
Speaker 1: we saw we saw some reviews, and I think you
Speaker 1: see this in college where the NFL process takes longer
Speaker 1: because the referee is involved and you have to get
Speaker 1: the headset on and all of that. So, so per review,
Speaker 1: the NFL process does take longer. College doesn't take is long.
Speaker 1: But what you're seeing in in in some of these
Speaker 1: major conferences, these Power five conferences, is the referee. Now
Speaker 1: they're bringing a little a little device over for the
Speaker 1: referee to look at the place. So that's going to
Speaker 1: extend the review. And then the other part of it
Speaker 1: is that there's no time limit in college. Should there
Speaker 1: be a time you know, and you think on average
Speaker 1: last year Division one FBS right about one one per review,
Speaker 1: which is not a bad number. But we've seen some
Speaker 1: reviews in college where where it's been five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: even eight minute stoppages. That's that's insane. And and so
Speaker 1: I do think that the n c A needs to
Speaker 1: think about a time limit. And and maybe it's not
Speaker 1: maybe it's from the time the game has stopped, maybe
Speaker 1: it's an overall. Maybe it's two minutes would be max, right,
Speaker 1: because that's typically in line with what what a what
Speaker 1: a TV break would be. So we're not we're not
Speaker 1: delaying the game unnecessarily, but but I do think college
Speaker 1: needs to think about that. We did get a great
Speaker 1: suggestion from from Scott who works with us. If you don't,
Speaker 1: If you don't if you want a really good Twitter follow,
Speaker 1: go to go to Scott Tamill t A M. M. E.
Speaker 1: L Um. He's on Twitter. Follow him. He works with
Speaker 1: us in the studio, and he came up with a
Speaker 1: great idea. He said listen, if we want to keep
Speaker 1: these reviews short, what we do is we take the
Speaker 1: replay official and we put we put the replay official
Speaker 1: in a tank, and as soon as the replay official
Speaker 1: the review is initiated, that tank starts to fill with water.
Speaker 1: And so basically, yes, you've got to make a decision
Speaker 1: before you drown. In essence, that's what that That was
Speaker 1: Scott's suggestion. He even added that like there were points
Speaker 1: where we could we could let like, you know, some
Speaker 1: kind of maybe an alligator into the tank or or
Speaker 1: an electric eel, which I think is an urban myth.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've never seen anybody shocked by an
Speaker 1: electric something. You and I both agree only, but this
Speaker 1: was Scott's idea, and I certainly think that would speed
Speaker 1: up the process. It might make the process more exciting. Um,
Speaker 1: I think people would be watching. There'd be a whole
Speaker 1: new group of fans watching college football that have no
Speaker 1: interest in football, but they want to see like this.
Speaker 1: They want to see if this replay official is going
Speaker 1: to die before you get it in, before they can
Speaker 1: make a decision and can host exactly exactly. So it's
Speaker 1: a combination of college football and fear factor and but
Speaker 1: that was Scott's idea speaking. And I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't think it's gonna happen either.
Speaker 1: Let's speaking of inside the cube. You know, we worked
Speaker 1: together in the Fox Sports and the Rules Cube, and
Speaker 1: we work, you know, we just we do college football
Speaker 1: on Saturdays sometimes Friday and uh, and we do NFL
Speaker 1: on on Sunday and uh, Saturday night. We worked late,
Speaker 1: and I was really excited because we we have we
Speaker 1: have all right, and I want you guys to back
Speaker 1: me up on this. We have we have completely boycotted
Speaker 1: Taco Bell. Right have you been to Taco Bell since
Speaker 1: they talk about thank you? So since they got rid
Speaker 1: of the double decker taco Um, no one is going
Speaker 1: to Taco Bell. So we were there late. We had
Speaker 1: to pack twelve after dark games. So we're there. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be there till eleven and uh. And so we
Speaker 1: typically get like a you know, a bad right, a
Speaker 1: cheap meal and and so we went with Wendy's So
Speaker 1: Good so spicy nuggets. They're really good. I had the
Speaker 1: spicy Nuggets the day's double legit. But that's not my point.
Speaker 1: My point is I wanted to just finish the night strong.
Speaker 1: So after the Wendy's, I went and I stopped at
Speaker 1: seven eleven and I got a pint of Ben and
Speaker 1: Jerry's half Baked Okay, which is the greatest ice cream
Speaker 1: of all time. I gotta try it. Okay. So if
Speaker 1: you talk about it a lot, if you don't know
Speaker 1: what half baked this, and Joe knows what half baked this, okay,
Speaker 1: Joe half baked is is a combination of chocolate chip
Speaker 1: cookie dough and chocolate fudge brownie, all it together. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how it started, like how they how
Speaker 1: they invented it, but it to me in my mind,
Speaker 1: like I've fantasized that this is how it's happened. Like
Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry are hanging out and they're they're sitting
Speaker 1: in Vermont. They're hanging out and they live next to
Speaker 1: each other, and they they're like watching a movie and
Speaker 1: Ben is eating chocolate chip cookie dough and Jerry is
Speaker 1: eating chocolate fudge brownie and they're hanging out and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they like look at each other
Speaker 1: as they're about to take a bite, and there's like
Speaker 1: light bulbs go off and it's like like remember like
Speaker 1: peanut butter and chocolate running into each other. That's how
Speaker 1: I envisioned half baked. Maybe they were maybe they were
Speaker 1: imbibing in a little you know, a little medicinal, and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I'm half baked, And that's how
Speaker 1: they came up with the name, and that that's how
Speaker 1: half baked came out. But anyway, I get a pint
Speaker 1: of half baked. I'm so excited. Okay, And Joe knows
Speaker 1: that I have a system with half baked, and and
Speaker 1: there's a system where you don't you you don't eat
Speaker 1: it directly out of the freezer. This is a system
Speaker 1: I cannot get behind because I pull it out and
Speaker 1: now I immediately have to eat. You can let it sit.
Speaker 1: You cannot eat it right out of the freezer because
Speaker 1: it's you get freezer burn burned, and it's not as creamy.
Speaker 1: So you let it sit. Okay, set a timer. I
Speaker 1: don't care, Go do something else, go, I don't care
Speaker 1: what you do. You let it sit at room temperature,
Speaker 1: little shit, about seven minutes, seven to ten minutes, depending
Speaker 1: on the temperature in the room. So you have to
Speaker 1: take ahead of when you want to eat your ice.
Speaker 1: So you take it out, you let it sit because
Speaker 1: then it's like and you'll know when you take the
Speaker 1: cover off. If you take the cover off and it's
Speaker 1: just like very smooth. Oh my god, the feeling it's
Speaker 1: like this smooth. It's so amazing, and you just see
Speaker 1: the it has just a slight little melt to it,
Speaker 1: and you go that first ridiculous. Okay, So I'm this
Speaker 1: is what I'm I have Wendy's. This is what I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to. So I go to seven eleven, I
Speaker 1: put in the freezer. I come, I'm doing whatever. I
Speaker 1: take it out. I go to let's sit for seven minutes.
Speaker 1: I go to take it out, and the I didn't
Speaker 1: realize the plastic was off, so you know, there's a
Speaker 1: safety safety seal was off. So now I've got to
Speaker 1: make a business decision because I've seen on the social
Speaker 1: media idiots running around taking the thing off, licking it,
Speaker 1: putting it back. That seven eleven I get it from
Speaker 1: was pretty shady, So I don't know. So I gotta
Speaker 1: make a business Do I eat the half baked knowing
Speaker 1: that some degenerate may have licked my half baked, or
Speaker 1: just get rid of the top layer. What going? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it? What do you think I did? I think
Speaker 1: you ate it? I ate that ship. You're no kidding me?
Speaker 1: And then and then I felt great today. So there
Speaker 1: was nothing, nothing wrong, unless it's like a two day thing.
Speaker 1: But so so that was that was my half big story.
Speaker 1: People out there probably think that you have said, Oh,
Speaker 1: this guy's on TV's got this glamorous life in here,
Speaker 1: and I'm eating it despite the safety steal not being
Speaker 1: it's so legit. Let's go, Brandon Blandino. What do you
Speaker 1: got first? Thank you for that. So this is the rules.
Speaker 1: This is a rules, Brandon Blandino convertible. It's a rules.
Speaker 1: It's a real convertible rules. What are the rules to
Speaker 1: drive in a convertible? Okay? So I think if you're
Speaker 1: a man, you can't drive a convertible if you're under fifty.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Okay, period, Like you can't own
Speaker 1: a convertible if you're under fifty, all right, I think
Speaker 1: a woman can and I'm not. Look, this is just
Speaker 1: I think you should be able to drive a car. However,
Speaker 1: whatever you want, keep going. Here we go. It's got
Speaker 1: to be a two door, I think too, So two door.
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's I just think it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's an age thing where you get
Speaker 1: to a certain age where you can now now you look,
Speaker 1: now you look the part in the convertible. And I
Speaker 1: just think it's like, okay, I think it's like guys,
Speaker 1: guys under fifty. Once you hit fifty right your phone,
Speaker 1: you take it off, vibrate, it goes on sound. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can get the convertible, all these things. Okay, that
Speaker 1: that's a standard. So I think I think convertible. I
Speaker 1: think one and even then two dudes in a convertible
Speaker 1: down the road, just ron happen, I really do. What
Speaker 1: about a jeep wrangler, that's pretty much that's got big
Speaker 1: jeep wrangler is not a convertible. I mean you're still
Speaker 1: on the top off. No, I think two guys, two dudes,
Speaker 1: no guy and a girl. Absolutely. I remember growing up.
Speaker 1: I used to always there was always like a cute
Speaker 1: girl and like the Rabbit cabriolet that was such a
Speaker 1: oh Man white interior like Ashley, and she's so cute.
Speaker 1: But I agree, I agree, I agree. Two dudes, no
Speaker 1: over fifty, single dude, fine, one guy in the car
Speaker 1: under fifty, stay away from the convertible. You know, you
Speaker 1: could buy a Tesla like Joe, like Joe does never
Speaker 1: shuts up about it. But when are they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a Tesla convertible? That's the rule. That's not that's not
Speaker 1: even inside the Brandon Blandino though, though I think you
Speaker 1: made that one. That was that was one that I
Speaker 1: made that. I've got a few in there. You've made
Speaker 1: that one up, so you know what you ran with it? Well,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So that was not something I came
Speaker 1: up with. Let's go, let's go d M of the week.
Speaker 1: This was actually this was actually a d M that
Speaker 1: I got um from Steve Howden. And so what Steve
Speaker 1: Hoden is complaining about, he dems me, how does Tom
Speaker 1: Brady get to reset the play clock? And we've heard
Speaker 1: this before that Tom Brady and and so there's a
Speaker 1: there's the signal for play clock. It's you take your
Speaker 1: hand one hand and you like pump it up in
Speaker 1: the air like you're not you no, no, but you're
Speaker 1: raising the roof with one hand. You're not, you're not
Speaker 1: you're not totally raising the roof like it's it's the
Speaker 1: party drink your hand exactly. The party is starting to
Speaker 1: get a little crazy, but you don't want it to
Speaker 1: get too crazy. So it's a one hand raised the roof.
Speaker 1: And so there was there's there's a play in the
Speaker 1: game on Sunday against the Browns. It's fourth and four
Speaker 1: and the Patriots decided to go for it, and play
Speaker 1: clock gets inside of twenty seconds and Brady turns to
Speaker 1: the referee and pumps raises the roof with one hand,
Speaker 1: and the referee does reset the play clock. To the
Speaker 1: question is why is Tom Brady get to decide? No,
Speaker 1: tom Brady doesn't get to decide. It is a great question.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady doesn't get to decide. But the quarterback. And
Speaker 1: it's not just Tom Brady, it's any quarterback. You'll see
Speaker 1: kickers do that, holders do that. And the bottom line
Speaker 1: is is the mechanic. It's a fourth and fourth situation,
Speaker 1: so they're inside the thirty yard line, which is typically
Speaker 1: gonna be a field goal. So you have a kicking
Speaker 1: ball that comes into the game. The Patriots then decide
Speaker 1: to go for it. Now we got to get the
Speaker 1: kicking ball out of the game and bring a regular
Speaker 1: ball in. If all of that happens. And now the
Speaker 1: regular ball is down and the play clock is inside
Speaker 1: of twenty seconds, then the mechanic is to reset the
Speaker 1: play clock to seconds. So that's what happened. Brady knows
Speaker 1: that he's going to ask the referee, but the referee
Speaker 1: is going to reset that because mechanically the football was
Speaker 1: not made ready for play before seconds um on the
Speaker 1: play clock. And that's that's how that's so it's a
Speaker 1: good d M of the week. I can't do a
Speaker 1: lot of my d m s because a lot of
Speaker 1: them are are really bad. And can you make sure
Speaker 1: to get me a kicking ball there's mean for the competition. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll get it. We'll get an official k ball for
Speaker 1: the competition. Um. Let's uh, let's go to another break
Speaker 1: and when we come back, I'm so excited. Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer Warren Sap joins us on good Calls. Alright, really
Speaker 1: excited about our guests this week. This guy was a
Speaker 1: national champion, super Bowl champion, All American, All Pro Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Warren Sap, Warren, what's up man? Good? H nothing? Nothing? Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's before I want to talk officiating in rules and
Speaker 1: get your take on some things when you played, and
Speaker 1: what's happening today. But before that, I want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about out the you and what's going on. Listen.
Speaker 1: I I went to Hofstra. They don't have football anymore,
Speaker 1: but but back in the day, we had Marcus Colston,
Speaker 1: Wayne Cribet, Willie Cologne. So what's up? But I was
Speaker 1: always a youth fan. I was always a Miami fan
Speaker 1: going back to the eighties. What's going on? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: just recently, Manny Diaz just took the he said, you know,
Speaker 1: three and four, it's on me. Where do you see
Speaker 1: the program right now? What needs to happen to get
Speaker 1: back to the glory years. I think the one thing
Speaker 1: we're missing is a dominant defensive tackle because we always
Speaker 1: talked about the University of Miami being quarterback university with
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Kelly and Gino Walsh, Ckson and that
Speaker 1: whole list of characters that played quarterback there. But there
Speaker 1: was always Jim Burke, Ruben Carter, you know, Russell Cortez, myself, Jerome.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a dominant front that could go
Speaker 1: after somebody's quarterback. And being quarterback, you we had a
Speaker 1: quarterback then, you know, could go out and win the
Speaker 1: football game for us, and right now we don't have
Speaker 1: either one of those, and then we don't have a kick.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jesus, that's crazy right now for me
Speaker 1: because Miami has always been in the world. We don't
Speaker 1: have a kick, cup man, are you kidding me? You've
Speaker 1: always Miami has always had a good kicker, good kick, punter,
Speaker 1: place kicker. And it feels like they can't make a
Speaker 1: kick this year. Oh my god, not one, not even
Speaker 1: the chip shots. I mean, it's unbelievable. And we can't
Speaker 1: stop a nosebleeding? Do you as a supposed to be
Speaker 1: because I've got so it's hurting right now. It's really hurty.
Speaker 1: Do you see you talked about quarterback, you and like
Speaker 1: Perry's gonna start this week and it's his third straight start.
Speaker 1: You had Jared Williams. You know, Tate Martell hasn't taken
Speaker 1: a snap at quarterback. Do they have the guy currently
Speaker 1: on the roster or do they got to go recruit
Speaker 1: the guy? I I don't know. And we look like
Speaker 1: transferred you because the only guy on offense, we got
Speaker 1: his number two and he transferred there. Thank god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it is unbelievable. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Now,
Speaker 1: is there is there like a group chat where you guys,
Speaker 1: you know, on game day you and and and ray
Speaker 1: Lewis and Gino and Luther Campbell? Can I get on?
Speaker 1: That is the after game counseling session. We have no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. That definitely goes though I can only
Speaker 1: I can only talk us off the list and to
Speaker 1: hide all shop objects. So so let's talk. Let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about your your transition, you know, from
Speaker 1: college to the to the NFL to the pro game.
Speaker 1: What was what was the toughest thing for you going
Speaker 1: from the college game to the program? If there was one,
Speaker 1: what was the what was the biggest jump for you?
Speaker 1: Some money game in the National Football League? I would
Speaker 1: have number one game. I looked at the umpire you know,
Speaker 1: used to be behind us. So so I looked like
Speaker 1: and said, man, you won't watch this holding. Oh I
Speaker 1: got you. So I go up and shake the office alignment.
Speaker 1: I look at him and said, that's how hold it?
Speaker 1: He said, grow up, how's a rookie. That's okay. This
Speaker 1: is how it's gonna this sound's gonna be. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this is grown man's lead. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to you have to say it for yourself. Don't
Speaker 1: don't look for any help out there on the football field.
Speaker 1: So that was my first lesson. I got to grow up.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I'm a grown man. I pay my
Speaker 1: mom a beers. What you mean, grow up? That's funny,
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's how I said in my mind,
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I wasn't bad enough to shadeything
Speaker 1: to the ref D. I thought they'd throw you out
Speaker 1: of the game. Oh well, we're gonna get into you.
Speaker 1: You definitely grew into your We're gonna get into a
Speaker 1: little bit of your of your you know, as a
Speaker 1: veteran talking to the refs. We'll get there. But let's rookie.
Speaker 1: You were you were, you were good. You were a
Speaker 1: good soldier at that point. But we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Um. But but you came, you
Speaker 1: came into the league around the time, you know, mid nineties,
Speaker 1: where they were expanding a lot of the rough and
Speaker 1: the pastor rules and defenseless player protection. Did you did
Speaker 1: you ever feel like you know, you talked about holding,
Speaker 1: but did you ever feel like those those protections to
Speaker 1: the quarterback made it harder for you to play defense. No, okay, no,
Speaker 1: it just it just gave me a strike zone, that's
Speaker 1: all it was. I mean I couldn't hit him in
Speaker 1: the head and you couldn't hit him below the knees.
Speaker 1: But I mean, trust me, I'd never stopped to be
Speaker 1: assaulted on the quarterback. He was always target And like
Speaker 1: the great out David said in the first ten played,
Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback must go down and he must go
Speaker 1: down hard. So what do you say should be played
Speaker 1: to the to the end of time? What do you
Speaker 1: say to what do you say to these guys today?
Speaker 1: They say, well, I can't play defense. You know I can't.
Speaker 1: You know, you know because you watched both. At the
Speaker 1: end of that game, when he sacked the quarterback on
Speaker 1: the slide and field, I mean, he's not landing, he's
Speaker 1: landing on him. But I mean, why is that? Okay?
Speaker 1: And the and the guy in Miami blows his knee
Speaker 1: out and week one week too? Was it week one?
Speaker 1: Last ship? And I think it was week one blew
Speaker 1: his knee out. I sat trying to trying to not
Speaker 1: land on the quarterback. I mean, I found that to
Speaker 1: be crazy. Because the last time I checked, he's got
Speaker 1: an office alignment that's in front of them, that's paid
Speaker 1: the protective I get to him and I shocked him.
Speaker 1: Where I land it should be on the quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: the cushion. Well, you were allowed to do that back
Speaker 1: when you played. And I think that I have to
Speaker 1: go to my owner and asking you do you want
Speaker 1: the quarterback and salted or do you want to you know,
Speaker 1: lay down softly. Well, I'm not giving I'm not giving
Speaker 1: up my money. I got kids to feel I'm not
Speaker 1: giving up my money. So you make a decision. Boss,
Speaker 1: you're playing for the fine and me landing on the
Speaker 1: quarterback because I used him as a pillow. Well, it's
Speaker 1: funny because that then we used to be language in
Speaker 1: the rulebo that used to say you have to cradle
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the way to the ground. Cradle the
Speaker 1: actual word. Now, now I can't see you in a
Speaker 1: in a defensive line in your position meeting and the
Speaker 1: defensive line coach saying, hey, we gotta cradle this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know the cradle if I'm gonna wrap him up
Speaker 1: and take him all the way to the crowd. Because listen,
Speaker 1: they used to fight out of everything. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: I mean you you had to take the quarterback down.
Speaker 1: He wasn't going down, he wasn't sliding and none of that. Oh,
Speaker 1: none of that. You have to take him down. So
Speaker 1: it was it was a game. It was a different game.
Speaker 1: So we're playing a lot more wide open right now.
Speaker 1: I know that. Well that's exactly right. What do you
Speaker 1: what do you think of You know, there have been
Speaker 1: rules changes, and you talked about offense in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and yes, this is an offensive league and the rules
Speaker 1: changes are you know, kind of focused in that area.
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that's good for the game overall?
Speaker 1: Why do you think we need to have more balance? No,
Speaker 1: it's it's good. It's good because it's a skill game now.
Speaker 1: It used to be a brutal you know, I sold,
Speaker 1: I sold lead full back, uh mic linebacker, you know
Speaker 1: all those things. Now it's a wide open game. Who
Speaker 1: can run, who can cover? Who's stop a two week ago?
Speaker 1: And who can rest the passes? Because they throw it
Speaker 1: fifty times? Holy smokes? Yeah, no question, no question. What
Speaker 1: that quarterback hold? You still baking that pretty girl out
Speaker 1: and you're driving around? I get can dig it up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: first play, let's play. What what do you think about?
Speaker 1: You know, there's been so much discussion about replaying pass interference,
Speaker 1: and I know you're you're watching games. You know, as
Speaker 1: a former player, what are we doing? What are we
Speaker 1: doing replay? Should we be reviewing this stuff? I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, We've gone too far because when we brought
Speaker 1: it back, the Vinny tester already played with Seattle with
Speaker 1: the sticks and his job. That was a big one.
Speaker 1: That was a big I would say the coaches in
Speaker 1: twelve twelve coaches around the National Football League when I
Speaker 1: have to move. That's why we brought it back, to
Speaker 1: make sure we ensure to get the plays right there.
Speaker 1: You know. But the other day, other day you saw
Speaker 1: that you just see the cleat plant of the guy
Speaker 1: at the bounds, and they still called it a touchdown
Speaker 1: in the um the Green Bay game. You see the
Speaker 1: cleat clearly right there on the way, clearly on the
Speaker 1: white the caravan standing, you see it. That was rituus
Speaker 1: someone more ridiculous. And then they want to put the
Speaker 1: passing of passing affairs is tough enough to call as
Speaker 1: he is. Now we're gonna go to replay, come home,
Speaker 1: stop it. That's that's the exact point. It is such
Speaker 1: a past call and you know, now you're bringing in
Speaker 1: a whole another Well, he might have grabbed him a
Speaker 1: little early there, and come on, man, come on, let
Speaker 1: him hand fight, let him play with their players. They
Speaker 1: just call. Let's see when I tell you what we
Speaker 1: really need to do. Put two more referees on the
Speaker 1: field that are at the sticks because that's where the
Speaker 1: game is. On third down, we haven't been standing that
Speaker 1: the lasts primage and when the boss snapped, they don't move,
Speaker 1: and then now they got to run up the field
Speaker 1: to mark that ball. We're playing game of inches and
Speaker 1: we're giving away yours. Yeah, well, the game of inches
Speaker 1: and we're giving away yours. The one thing we needed
Speaker 1: two more referees standing at the sticks because that's where
Speaker 1: the action is. The action is that the first down marker? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a good point. And we you know,
Speaker 1: when I was at the league, we talked about adding
Speaker 1: an eighth official and it was always, okay, where are
Speaker 1: you gonna put that guy you took the sick because
Speaker 1: that's where the action is. Well there you go, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll go to the competition committee. We'll call it the sticks.
Speaker 1: We played the sticks on third question. The quarterback is
Speaker 1: throwing for the sticks on third down because he wants,
Speaker 1: so what first down? And the first down as well
Speaker 1: at the sticks? And I think we get in the way.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you said that, because I think sometimes,
Speaker 1: especially on the rule side, we over complicate things. This
Speaker 1: is not a doesn't have to be a complicated game, right,
Speaker 1: You'll just trying to cover everything, and you can't cover everything,
Speaker 1: but cover most of it from that referee being sticks,
Speaker 1: because that's where the action is going to be. I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. All right, let's let's go
Speaker 1: to Okay, you were a rookie. You didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk to the officials, all right. He told you to
Speaker 1: grow up, and you said, okay about anything, all right.
Speaker 1: So now so now you're you know, you win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Bucks. In two thousand two, you
Speaker 1: go to the Raiders, and now in two thousand seven
Speaker 1: you you get not one, not two, but three unsportsmanli
Speaker 1: conduct calls from mallin off and you get disqualified from
Speaker 1: the game. You were, I mean, I was at the
Speaker 1: League office in the officiat department. You were the officiating
Speaker 1: you know most wanted at that point and what what happened?
Speaker 1: What happened during that during that sequence? Okay, no it
Speaker 1: was it happened in the earlier in the year number.
Speaker 1: I think he lives in Manhattan Beach because my friend
Speaker 1: lives a man And Beach and I was at the
Speaker 1: nine Hunter Club and there was like, ah, he lives
Speaker 1: up here, and I was like, yeah, let him come
Speaker 1: by the bar. So he's in the Houston Houston Texan
Speaker 1: game and he was standing in the huddle with the office.
Speaker 1: So I and he came out, you know after you know,
Speaker 1: they were about to get ready to you know, going
Speaker 1: the huddle, and one of those times I was and
Speaker 1: he was giggling. So I looked at him and said, so,
Speaker 1: what's so funny? So he looks at me and says, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're afraid of you. So you know me, tell me
Speaker 1: if both face lie in my face. I looked at
Speaker 1: him and I called him a you know what in
Speaker 1: my flyer? In my flyer? And he looked at me
Speaker 1: and said what. I said, Yeah, you're m fly What
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do by it? And he looks at
Speaker 1: me like I had just slapped his mother or something,
Speaker 1: and I looked at him like, you're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: if both face like you could have said none of
Speaker 1: your business, and that would have been better than telling
Speaker 1: me they're afraid of me, because I know that ain't
Speaker 1: the case. So we get to play in the game
Speaker 1: and something else happening. I left the real good again.
Speaker 1: So he's in the Jacksonville game. He wanted to throw
Speaker 1: the flag on me back then, but like the officials
Speaker 1: that he had number ninety nine told and say grow up, man,
Speaker 1: I said, come on, we're playing the game, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know I customer like yo, when you tell
Speaker 1: a lot, you get cut stick. You'll tell a grown
Speaker 1: man a line and facing and look at it. If
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to trust you not behind me to call
Speaker 1: the game fan and you can't even tell me what
Speaker 1: y'all were laughing about. Come on, man, we grown men
Speaker 1: dog don't play like that. So this was, you know,
Speaker 1: like some some personal things with me him on this
Speaker 1: this Sunday, the one did Jacksonville just turned out to
Speaker 1: be just a bad day of officiating. And you can
Speaker 1: go all the way back to this. When they throw
Speaker 1: the flag, they called it off sides on Burgess Burgens
Speaker 1: go to yelling at the ref, he changes it to
Speaker 1: Chris Clemens. Chris Clemen looked at me, was like it
Speaker 1: was me? So I was like, or he was outside.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, I'm like, are you trying to look
Speaker 1: around me. He's like yeah, I'm like, I told you
Speaker 1: to go off of me. So now I know it
Speaker 1: was Chris outside, but they didn't. But they didn't correct
Speaker 1: it on the on the law speaker. So the next
Speaker 1: play we line up. Now I'm the awesom a wash
Speaker 1: call outside, so that the next place I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? So I walked out there to the
Speaker 1: head lines when I said, yo, do you couldn't get
Speaker 1: my d D want to tell him back up a
Speaker 1: little bit. You're standing two feet from him. So he
Speaker 1: looked at me like he's never done this before in
Speaker 1: his life. You know, like back up a little bit
Speaker 1: the line. You know what happens all the time, what
Speaker 1: happens all the time on you don't call out sides
Speaker 1: over a covered corner that covering to man, man and man.
Speaker 1: You just tell him that, hey, watch your line, and
Speaker 1: then normally would have looked to the last scrimmage and
Speaker 1: line the stuff up, so they don't do that from
Speaker 1: the flag. Jerome was his first time being a referee.
Speaker 1: This was his first year, so he wants to decline
Speaker 1: the penalty and they would have been close enough to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal to make it thirty wasn't nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I'm like, who
Speaker 1: declined the family? He's like what, I'm like, who declined
Speaker 1: the privilty? He's like, what are you talking about. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm the captain of the team Burgess and the other
Speaker 1: captain and number these way out there playing man the
Speaker 1: man Burgess, don't talk who declined the pivilty? And then
Speaker 1: I got Lane kiffing on the fist sideline yelling like
Speaker 1: a little five year old kid. Yeah yeah yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what that clining the familty? I said, relax nobody he did,
Speaker 1: and they're like what. I'm like, the rest get no one,
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm taking the pilloty. You got to move
Speaker 1: them back. They're gonna throw a spreen or drawing and
Speaker 1: then kick the pill I'm not gonna give him a
Speaker 1: chance to get the first down and driving on my
Speaker 1: hands to make it thirty five and nothing. Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm smaller than that, you know. So now I'm being
Speaker 1: questioned by Lane kiffing that kind of decline the pillow
Speaker 1: there not everybody. I'm like, are you kidding me? And
Speaker 1: I'm at the point where I just want to just
Speaker 1: shoot myself right now, because we lined up to start
Speaker 1: a game with twelve men on the field and they're
Speaker 1: still game nine yards on a run play. So trust me,
Speaker 1: build it sounds like this game is really it's going
Speaker 1: very well. It's going very well. It means nothing to
Speaker 1: nobody or any scale or any level. And it's two
Speaker 1: days past my birthday and four days of Christmas, and
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm a half an hour away from my
Speaker 1: house in Orlando. Yes, you're ready to go. You're ready
Speaker 1: to go. You're ready, You're ready to get into smegnag,
Speaker 1: You're ready to go. I got it for me to
Speaker 1: get out of here. I got it. It was Christmas
Speaker 1: time and I was very go home. Then I had enough.
Speaker 1: Well you did, you got out early, now I know.
Speaker 1: Now I went about it the run way. I went
Speaker 1: about the roll way. I just went overboard. I really did.
Speaker 1: And that and that that happens. It's it's emotional. But
Speaker 1: now I know now, I know why because it was
Speaker 1: Christmas time. You were close to home. My brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters were all in the Stags home, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: tell me he saw mama walk out to stand. That's
Speaker 1: why he did. That's what they tell me. I saw
Speaker 1: my mother walk out of the stair, and that's why
Speaker 1: I did that. Just go home to yeah, because you
Speaker 1: can see that because out on the field you could
Speaker 1: see exactly somebody even know. I was so over my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you don't really kidding me? Now? I
Speaker 1: gotta go always to the sideline. Well you over turning
Speaker 1: to explain this, and then I gotta walk back out
Speaker 1: here and play. I said, do you really wasting my
Speaker 1: time right now? And it's toy eight and nothing. Then
Speaker 1: fifty three said something to me, and I was I
Speaker 1: was so sick of him. I just we were back
Speaker 1: in the Houston game, way back and over wood. So
Speaker 1: that's why I went off. I just I wanted him
Speaker 1: to do something, just say something to me and spit
Speaker 1: on me. I'm a slap in the mouth. Well, we
Speaker 1: were glad that didn't happen. We don't, we didn't, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't need that afternoon. I apologize all that was
Speaker 1: involved on that sun the afternoon one was not himself. Sorry, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's fine. And you know what, it's funny because
Speaker 1: that's the thing, you know, we as when you're doing
Speaker 1: the officiating schedule, you don't want to put the same
Speaker 1: officials with the same teams too much during the season
Speaker 1: because it builds up and that kind of stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: you have something happened when the way we used to
Speaker 1: play with little copies of each other. Yeah, another obstacle
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field that we used a
Speaker 1: hundred percent, that umpire in that position. That's why they
Speaker 1: moved them. Absolutely. Oh, I know you you the defensive
Speaker 1: line gets away with a lot more, a lot more
Speaker 1: of that grabbing and prevent Yeah. Yeah, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: last question, here's the question, all right, what what hurt worse? Okay,
Speaker 1: losing Alabama in the ninety two Sugar Bowl and not
Speaker 1: getting that second national championship or being bitten by a shark,
Speaker 1: which which hurt worse? Nine Sugar Bowl. I was twenty three,
Speaker 1: and oh I was going for back to back. That's
Speaker 1: all we talked was perfection at the University of Miami
Speaker 1: and it hurts so bad because I saw it coming.
Speaker 1: During the week. We weren't we weren't as a team,
Speaker 1: we weren't together in a bunch of a lot of
Speaker 1: individual agendas on their plate. We had four senior receivers,
Speaker 1: had three senior linebackers, two cornerbacks that felt like they
Speaker 1: were getting squeezed out, the best safety and of the
Speaker 1: whole America and Daryl Williams. So trust me, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had a bunch of issues here, the butt of stuff
Speaker 1: going on that nobody do about. So so the shark
Speaker 1: came in second. Tell me the shark story. You know what.
Speaker 1: I was just being a butthole and just got tought
Speaker 1: a bit lesson that sharp sharks. Sharks gonna win if
Speaker 1: you don't let him go or her go, that they'll
Speaker 1: bite you. I was lobstering, and you know when you
Speaker 1: dig your hand in the hole. I messed around to
Speaker 1: touch shark on the cold and then we had the
Speaker 1: looka holes, which is the you know, like snow. He
Speaker 1: was blowing air, so I got plenty of out of
Speaker 1: state there. So he turnched, well, she turned sideways, and
Speaker 1: I could see the fan in the nose and in
Speaker 1: the tail, and I can still see all the antennas
Speaker 1: of the lobsters. I wanted like, uh, how do I
Speaker 1: do that? So I looked. I'm like, I could just
Speaker 1: snatch her out of the hole and she should just
Speaker 1: swim off. So I snacked her out of the hole
Speaker 1: and she went to swim off, and something said grab
Speaker 1: about the tail. I don't know what foody thing in
Speaker 1: my mind at this, but when I grabbed about to tail,
Speaker 1: she was a full extension, just I mean, just moving.
Speaker 1: I wish I had my goalper on the top of
Speaker 1: my hell and I could. That's what got me. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have Then I look up to see if
Speaker 1: anybody's watching, and Jay see my little buddies right over
Speaker 1: above me, going oh. Because he didn't have the air
Speaker 1: in his mouth, he just got to take a breath.
Speaker 1: So when I looked back from laughing with him, the
Speaker 1: shark is bending his tors fool and everything back at
Speaker 1: me to bite me. And I luckily had shirt on
Speaker 1: and it caught the top of his mouth and I
Speaker 1: got my skin out before he totally got me. Because
Speaker 1: he totally got me, it would rip my wrist off
Speaker 1: the bottom and we had a serious dissu did. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I learn my lesson. Leave the animals alone.
Speaker 1: That's a good water unless unless I'm in the boat.
Speaker 1: There you go. That's a good lesson. Leave, leave the
Speaker 1: animals alone. I like it in the water. All right, man, Hey,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Good luck with everything that you're doing.
Speaker 1: And uh and come back and join us sometime anytime. Brother,
Speaker 1: and you keep doing what you're doing, and make sure
Speaker 1: we get that guy at the at the stick the
Speaker 1: first time. And that's all we need. One guy right there.
Speaker 1: Then they ain't gotta move and they ain't gotta run
Speaker 1: up there. We gotta got marking that already. And it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot more accuracy when he's marking it when
Speaker 1: you're looking at it sideways then running up from the
Speaker 1: other side. All right, we'll make it happen. We're gonna
Speaker 1: make it happen, all right, man, Take care. Good Calls
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