1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, j P. Shacker, John Oser and NFL Network 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Buckey Brooks bring you the latest 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill jack Wars. Huddle Up with Bucky 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Brooks starts right now. Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Today is Wednesday, March sixte j P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: John Oser, and Happy New Year. We have arrived at 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: the start of the league here. Let's get right into it. 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: Plenty of significant roster moves for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: agreed to terms with now seven unrestricted free agents, with 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: around a hundred fifty five million dollars and guaranteed money 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: among them. But asked the Cowboys, they aren't officially official 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: until the player signs the contract, of course, but many 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: of those signatures expected tomorrow. Let's start, guys with the 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: offensive additions and the highest price east of them all 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: at least reportedly wide receiver Christian Kirk never been over 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: a thousand yards, Bucky. What does he bring to the 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: Jaguars offense? So Christian Kirk is a unique playmaker, unique talent, 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are adding. I think anyone who watched 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the Jaguars played last season saw that look ahead pass catches, 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: but not a lot of speed and playmaking on the outside. 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: And so people will look at the numbers that Christian 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Kirk has put up and they would say that he 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: is not, uh, necessarily a number one playmaker. But what 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: I will say is when you watch him play, he's 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a guy who has versatility. He has the ability to 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: play inside and outside in this offense. And you have 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: to remember Doug Peterson is bringing in a pure version 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: of the West Coast offense that will will move people 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: around to every spot on the perimeter. Meaning, uh, in 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: this offense, you have an X, you have in Z 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: you have what is called an eagle position. That's the 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: e position, that's your third receiver. Well, in a perfect world, 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: you would like receivers who could play all three spots. 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: That enables you to be able to mix and match, 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: create and exploit mismatches, and it allows you to kind 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of dictate where you want the ball to go with. 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk has shown that he can not only play 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: in the slot, but he also can play outside. And 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: so having known Christian Kirk for a long time, having 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: watched him from his high school days, having worked with 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: him or whatever. This is an a level route runner 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: and out standing pass catcher, and he quickly will become 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Trevor lawrences um best friend. And then when you think 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: about the other editions that kind of compliment what they're doing, 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Za Jones and Evan Ingram, you now have the versatility 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: to kind of maneuver and missmatching, kind of use the 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: field like a chessboard, trying to create advantageous situations for 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: your top pieces. Yeah. I asked somebody in football, I 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: think it was yesterday. Uh hey, tell me with the class. 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Kirk was the first player mentioned. I said why and 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: one word explosiveness. Uh So even beyond speed. That interested 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: because it strikes me the explosiveness is different than speed. Uh. 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Kirk's a player who has Bucky said, will threatened defenses, 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: stretched defenses, and make defenses have one more element to consider. 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I know everybody's caught up in Oh, you paid him this, 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: you guarantee this. This team had to get better and 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: it had to have more things that concerned defenses and 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: more places for Trevor Lawrence to go. Uh it strikes 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: me that Kirk is that guy. I'm intrigued. But but 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: what Bucky said, you can play multiple spots because your 62 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: first thought when you look at him is five eleven receiver. Uh, 63 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: that's a little price e for that. But every time 64 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: somebody touching me about price, I keep saying, Look, price 65 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: couldn't be a consideration in this market for this team 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: because they had to spend. They've got to get back 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: to a certain level, whatever the cost may have been. 68 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: But Bucky, do you agree with Kirky? I mean terms 69 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: of his explosiveness? Is there a difference there explosiveness and speed? Uh? Yeah, 70 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: I would say like what Christian is is more quick 71 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: than fast. The explosives. The explosiveness that you're pointing to 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: and alluding to is about short area quickness, quick area 73 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: like sudden separation. Uh, the ability to get from zero 74 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: to sixty in a hurry and small spaces. That's what 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is able to do. The other thing that 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: you have to look at this and I think, um, 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: we probably should mention the other guys because it's probably 78 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: easier to do an overall analysis on what the Jaguars 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: have done with the wide receiver corps as opposed to 80 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. But I would say this about Christian Kirk, 81 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are caught up in the 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: amount of money that it costs to bring him in. 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I would say this, I learned a long time ago. Hey, 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: the cost of doing business is the cost of doing business. 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: But how he plays and how he's utilized that can 86 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: necessarily be a consideration. So and playing in this offense 87 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: under Mike Home when where when Mike McCoy was UH 88 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback, when Doug Peterson was a backup, and 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: I was at the beginning stages of beginning to move 90 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: over to dB but still practicing that wide receiver. Coach 91 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Honger used to always say this, I don't necessarily need 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: a's to be able to make this offense function and 93 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: operate at a high level. But I can do a 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of damage with B plus receivers. And so when 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: you look at this in total, you talk about a 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: high end number two ish in Christian Kirk, who may 97 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: be deemed to be the number one because people are 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna see the price tag, high end complimented receiver and 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: Zay Jones. People are trying to figure out is your 100 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: two is your three. What does it mean when he 101 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: comes over high end pass catching tied end in Evan Ingram. Well, 102 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: now what you've assembled is, let's just say three B 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: plus is in that um receiver corps around Trevor Lawrence. 104 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: The other thing that you want to do when you're 105 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the jack Wars, it's important that you bring the type 106 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: of receivers on board that accinuate what the quarterback does 107 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: really well. Well, let's go back to the last time 108 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: we saw Trevor Lawrence play really well. That would be 109 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: in Clemson. Will you look at Clemson. Clemson kill people 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: on short intermediate passes a ton of uh what we 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: call now screens to wide receivers um. The ball is 112 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: out of his hands quickly, and those guys were able 113 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: to turn those short passes in the bigger games. And 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: so there needed to be a level of explosiveness and 115 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: elusiveness to be able to play that kind of offense 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: and that kind of style. And so a lot of 117 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: this is the Jaguars going all in on making sure 118 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: that the quarterback flourishes as opposed to building the prototypical 119 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver cord that people talk about in the standard 120 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: traditional NFL offenses. This is more cater to making sure 121 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence has what he needs to play at 122 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: his best, and at his best is what we saw 123 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: at Clemson. This is the huddle of podcast. The Jaguars 124 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: beefing up the offensive line as well in free agency 125 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: guard Brandon Sure five time Pro Bowl selection, all with 126 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Washington and All Pro selection two seasons ago. He's been 127 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: at it for a long time, Bucky. And that's a 128 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: big fella in the interior to bring in. And you 129 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: know they franchised the left tackle. They're bringing in a 130 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: guard now. Um, it's the start of some some changes 131 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: up front. You changes up front because what you wanna 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: do is you want to make sure that the quarterback 133 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: is protected. Everything that has been done and everything that 134 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: will continue to be done on offense is about getting 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback up and going. Um. That's what happens. Typically 136 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: when you have an offensive head coach, a guy who 137 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: was also a play caller, he is going to make 138 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: sure that the most valuable chess piece is going to 139 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: have everything that they need to thrive. And so Doug 140 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Peterson wants to make sure that the quarterback doesn't get hit, 141 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: that he has enough weapons on the outside to throw 142 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: the ball all over the yard, and he wants to 143 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: make sure that when they need to be able to 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: run the football, that they can run the football. And 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: so that's the next step. We can talk about James 146 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Robinson and those things, but Travis Etienne is very much 147 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: in the plans, and it is about being able to 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: not only protect Trevor Lawrence, but to give Travis Ancien 149 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: enough room where his explosiveness can produce big plays and 150 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: they can score point a surf to me, um brings 151 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: you consistency at the position. Everything I've heard about him 152 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: is that's a mark of his being consistent. Um bang 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but well, when he's on again. 154 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: Not to knock guys, they go out the door. But 155 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell, high high level guy. When he played well 156 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: and then every you know, it seemed like every game 157 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: or two a a big noticeable mistake. I And of 158 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: course with offensive lineman, as we all know, every mistake 159 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: is magnified. Uh. Schurf's reputation is much more consistent without 160 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: the you know, high profile oops play and that's what 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: they need, you know, because that matters up front. Franchise 162 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: tagged in twenty by Washington signed that and then, of course, 163 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: was the first Washington player to be named First team 164 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: All Pro. Since that season, he's had some accolades in 165 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Washington and now coming to the Jacksonville Jaguar for a 166 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: new now Roar later and the time is now to 167 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: New York's season tickets. Season ticket members who are do 168 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: by March seventeenth, that's tomorrow, you will also be inner 169 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: to win a trip to Canton, Ohio is the Jaguars 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: take on the Las Vegas Raiders in the Hall of 171 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: Fame game. Plus Tony Vasselli. You might have heard of him, 172 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: He'll be enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 173 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: The defensive additions and what they bring to the Jaguars organization. 174 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: After this, welcome back to the Huddle Up Podcast j 175 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: P Shadrick, Bucky Brooks and John Osier. And there's no 176 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: better time to become a Dailies Place Blue member right now. 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: Get access to the best seats and amenities, premium parking 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: and more for all shows during the season, all of 179 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: them and this year's shaving up to be one of 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: the best yet. Dave Matthews Band, Keith Urban, Tim McGraw 181 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: and much more. Don't miss out. Email ticketing at bold 182 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: events dot com or called nine oh four six three 183 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: three two thousand, John, You'll be there. I cannot wait 184 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: for seats. You get my blue seats with the rest 185 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: of my seats. Okay, well we're gonna you're gonna get 186 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: some become Daily's place Blue members I'll look into at 187 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Bucky's already one. It's probably in his deal. I get that. 188 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: It's probably being negotiated as we speak, right, Yeah, I 189 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: mean maybe they threw me thre some tickets or blue 190 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: membership into the toe bag. Christian. That might be in 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: the fine print of some of these deals. He might 192 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: just be sitting so a couple of ships. That's a 193 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: good point. So yeah, I mean, look the baga. He's intrigued. 194 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: But he told us for the show. You feel like 195 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: you missed your place in line this week. I absolutely 196 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: missed my place in line. I felt like there was 197 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: a calling and it was a giveaway and everybody got 198 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: the notice except me. And then I wake up and 199 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: find out, like, what if you show up a nine 200 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: o'clock at the stadium there giving away bags, and some 201 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: of those bags may have lots of cash. I feel 202 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: like I got to the stadium in nine twenty and 203 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: right now in the back of the line and I'm 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: just waiting to see if the bag on. I mean, 205 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: if there's anything left in the bag. I don't think 206 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: there is. Like you missed, you missed the notification on 207 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: your phone and like, oh gosh, it popped up, your 208 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: phone turned down. The phone was all bad. That's that's 209 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: a problem. Let's move to defense. Speaking of money for you, 210 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: A Louis Khan is coming in from the Falcons, twenty 211 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: eight million guaranteed dollars for him. A former six round 212 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: pick out of Yale, he was the league's leading tackler 213 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: in one Well, I mean that's a that's a big 214 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: time edition a linebacker. Bucky for Foyer, Yeah, big time edition. 215 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: When you watch him play, Uh, it's not only speeding athleticism, 216 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: outstanding the instincts. This is a self made man when 217 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: it comes to the position. And I think the one 218 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: thing that we are seeing and all of the free 219 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: agent moves, very dynamic and explosive athletes coming on board. 220 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: This is a team that needed to up the anti 221 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: when it came to uh, the speeches on both sides 222 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: of the ball, because when you have great speed on defense, 223 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: that's when you're able to generate turnal. Great speed leads 224 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: to more of alosty on hits, the ball begins to 225 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: fly out, it leads to tips and takeaways because you're 226 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: getting balls off overthrows and deflections. And so it was 227 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: a concerted effort by the Jaguars to up to any 228 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to the speed and the playmaking ability. 229 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: If you want to improve and close the gap on 230 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: your competitors, you have to have more players, more playmaker Bucky. 231 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: We have mentioned the show yet, but most people listening 232 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: know that Miles Jack was released. Is this a case 233 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: of both guys not having room in the defense or 234 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: not really? You know, like, look, man, it's one of 235 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: those things where you think you could have worked with 236 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: Miles Jack. I mean, Miles Jack has played at a 237 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: high level. He hasn't got the recognition that he necessarily deserved. 238 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: He should have been a Pro Bowl particularly two years ago. 239 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: He should have been a Pro Bowl player. But it 240 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily worked out. And so it's one of those 241 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: things where sometimes, man, when you're changing the guard, you 242 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of just change everything out. You know, it's like 243 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: a new house. You paint the walls, you change the drapes, 244 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: you remove the carpet, put new carpet in or maybe hardwoods. 245 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: And I think for Doug Peterson Um, they want to 246 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: make sure that they kind of flipped the script when 247 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: it comes to Jacksonville. And that's why you're seeing so 248 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: many new faces come in and we'll continue to see 249 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: probably a roster turnover in terms of getting this roster 250 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: to look the way that he wants to look. Haven't 251 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: been a championship coach? How good is uh? And I'm 252 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: gonna botch his name? So JP, you take his name 253 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: Lou and the guy would just signed that Foyer Louican, 254 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Louikan Alukan. I've been practicing. I had no confidence. There's 255 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: multiple name guys that were just I had no confidence 256 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: in myself. Bucky I I had no comments. But you know, 257 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: I see the stats. I also see sixth round pick Um. 258 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: So is he this good? Tell fans something about him? 259 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't a chance to watch the Falcons. 260 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I like the numbers. I like the leading tackler part. Uh, 261 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: how good is this guy? Uh? Impactful? Impactful in terms 262 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: of his tackles are not like tackles that are down 263 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: the field. The Falcons haven't played great defense the last 264 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: few years, but this guy shows up on tape. One 265 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: things that you're looking for when you're watching defensive table, 266 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: who are the guys that are flying to the ball. 267 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: This guy shows up because he is flying to the 268 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: ball sideline sideline making plays great instincts. And sometimes, you know, 269 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: we can get um fooled by draft position because someone 270 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: comes in as a sixth round pick, we think they're 271 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: not a really good player. Uh, sometimes scouts miss. You know, 272 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: sometimes scouts miss and they think a guy as a 273 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: developmental guy, and you don't know how well he can 274 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: play until he actually plays. He got an opportunity to 275 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: play early in Atlanta and he outplayed his draft status. 276 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: And so when you put up the kind of numbers 277 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: that he put up from a tackling standpoint man, you 278 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: have to have a strong nose for the ball to 279 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: be able to put up the kind of numbers that 280 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: he was putting up as a top tackler. So, uh, 281 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's um. He's gonna bring some 282 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: different energy and I think that's also some of the 283 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: stuff might call will hold new defensive staff. You're kind 284 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: of trying to bring your own guys in, and so 285 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot of times it's kind of out with the 286 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: old end with the new and we'll see how it 287 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: all comes together. But I do know that the Jaguars 288 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: is certainly more dynamic on defense due to Alcona coming 289 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: in Aluicon. That's all right, I got it's muscle memory now, 290 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: j K. And just wait till you hear this one 291 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: full of rooms. Okasi is the defensive tackle. His nicknames 292 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: fully he goes by that, but he's in from the chance. 293 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Another former sixth round pick out of Connecticut, this time 294 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: a noted run stop for one of eight players last 295 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: season Bucky with fifteen or more run stuffs and fifteen 296 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: or more quarterback pressures. Max Crosby to Mario Davis, Aaron Donald, 297 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: Cam Hayward, Alex Highsmith, Cameron Jordan's and Christian Wilkins the 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: other seven that's from NFL media earlier this week. Well, 299 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: is he a run stop or what else can he do? Rostop? 300 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: The things that you're seeing are kind of like old 301 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: school traditional things. Great defenses are built strong right down 302 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: the middle, and so uh you see it, and the 303 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: defensive tackle and the linebacker right up front is to 304 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: let's stop to run and force people to run to 305 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the edges, and then you want a defense that's fast 306 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: enough to secure the edges when guys attempt to get 307 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: around the corner um. This guy's unique because he is 308 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: a very very stop I mean a very uh stout 309 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: and steady run stopper. But he does have some pass 310 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: rush ability. Now he's not an Aaron Donald type inside 311 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: pass rusher. He is not a high im pass rusher, 312 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: but he certainly can pressure the pocket from inside and 313 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times that's more disruptive and impact within. 314 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: Maybe just generating sex constant penetration in the face of 315 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback right up the gut really forces those guys 316 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to move. It changes their trajectory which leads to overthrows 317 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: and some bad at boss really really good player, really 318 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: solid the point of attack, and the Jaguars had to 319 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: address the interior of their defensive line because stopping the 320 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: run has to be the number one priority of any 321 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, as much as I joked about the 322 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: names earlier to me when the signings or the acquisition 323 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: started happening on Monday, these two stood out, maybe even 324 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: beyond the bells and whistles guys at receiver, because if 325 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: you've watched this team for the last two or three years, 326 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a decline from two 327 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen eighteen nineteen in terms of being stout up 328 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: the middle and stopping the run and more and more 329 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: they had to put guys in the box to get 330 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: that done. To me, these two guys were about, let's 331 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: get better at being stout in the middle and stop 332 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: in the run without having to over commit other personnel. 333 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: There Um, they were better at it last year, but 334 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody out of US three or anybody 335 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: watching the team, I thought it looked great on that 336 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: level last year. So if this is a step toward 337 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: being much much better in that area that having over 338 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: commit personnel, then it's money well spent. John. I think 339 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting that you brought up seven team becauld you 340 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: go back and look at the components on their defense 341 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: in seventeen. The things that stood out up front they 342 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: were big and strong. Second level and third level they 343 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: were fast and athletic, and that's just the calling card. 344 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: That's the way you have to play defense in today's game. 345 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: You have to be able to uh in a perfect world, 346 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: be able to stop the run without necessarily having to 347 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: drop extra defenders in the box. And then in the 348 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: passing game, you have to be able to rust the 349 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: pass or hopefully with four occasionally five, and you got 350 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: enough speed to cover in the back end. That's the 351 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: way you have to play if you can play these 352 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: offenses today. Phokasi, by the way, has a brother who 353 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: just played at Rutgers and tapped out of the Gator 354 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: Bowl because he was going to the draft this year 355 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: as well. Lakun lay photo Kai outside linebackers just as 356 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: difficult for me, just like his brothers. Wednesday morning, word 357 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: came out that cornerback Darius Williams is coming home. The 358 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: Creekside High School product from down to St. John's, he 359 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: went to U a B. It was one of three 360 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: schools he attended. By the way. He was undrafted by 361 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens, claimed off waivers by the Rams back in October. 362 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Has been with him ever since. Now he's coming home 363 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: with a thirty million dollar contract and now Jaguar's hometown team. 364 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old. He spent a few years 365 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: away from the game of football, was working at like 366 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: an ace hardware in town, went to F S c 367 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: J for a little bit and ended up at U 368 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: A B and it was undrafted. I mean, the guy 369 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: has taken the scenic route to get to this point, 370 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: but he's coming home. Well, what a cool I mean, 371 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: that's an even cooler story to meet than somebody gets 372 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: who gets drafted by their hometown team. Because you've worked 373 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: for it. I'm sure there were people in his high 374 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: school with oh man, he'll never make it, you know. 375 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: So he gets to come back and Uh, good for him. 376 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean everything you hear is that he's a good kid. Uh. 377 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: So I'm moving forward to meeting with him. Covered him. 378 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Uh And what's interesting And I'll ask Bucky this, Uh 379 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: is he purely a slot corner? Can he play outside? 380 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: What does that mean for the Jaguars defensive acts? I 381 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: look at it and assume, maybe incorrectly, that it's Shaq 382 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: Griffin and Tyson Campbell on the outside. How does he 383 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: impact that? Bucky? Good player? He's a really good player. 384 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: He made a ton of place for the Rams. Uh. 385 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: I'll speak about his skill set. His skill set is 386 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: terrific because he's a guy that can play off. I mean, 387 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: he doesn't always have to be nose and nose on 388 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: the wide receiver. There's a great job of reading rouse 389 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: and recognizing what's happening in front of him. He will 390 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: make place. He made a ton of plays throughout his 391 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: time with the l A rams Uh. He could play outside, 392 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: but he also can bump inside. I think this is 393 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: a move where people have to understand. The nickel position, 394 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: particularly the slot corner position is another starting position. UM 395 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: the twelve starters on the defense, the nickelback counts is 396 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: that and you need to have three high end corners 397 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: to be able to play in this league. And so 398 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: he gives them a guy who can play outstanding nickel 399 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: coverage and it gives them maybe some versatility and flexibility 400 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: in terms of how they deploy their stuff. This is 401 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: a team that I would anticipate being a heavy zone 402 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: blitz team, meaning where they're bringing uh five maybe six 403 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: defenders that sometimes were playing zone with the eyes on 404 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And to succeed in that, you have to 405 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: have guys that are very comfortable playing in space, being 406 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: able to sort out all the stuff that happens in 407 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: front of them. Williams is a guy that does that. 408 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: UM I do under for Tyson Campbell, uh, Chad Griffin 409 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: as they continue to evolve this defense, how these guys 410 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: are best suited to play because those guys are better 411 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: knows than knows and so I'm curious to see what 412 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: it all looks like when they put it together. But 413 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: this is a team that's gonna be aggressive, but they're 414 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna do it with a lot of smoking mirrors and deception. 415 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: But you have to have guys who have a lot 416 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: of tools in the toolbox to be able to do 417 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: what Williams says that is it important for a nickel? 418 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: But I thought they might draft this spot. But is 419 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: it important for a nickel because of the complexity position 420 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: to have a veteran as opposed to you can play 421 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: a rookie, you can play a kid outside because there's 422 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: maybe not as much Uh, it's not as complex. Is 423 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: there any truth to that? A lot of truth to it, John, 424 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: And in fact, you've been around the game long enough 425 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to know that the way that things used to work 426 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: is your best corner and and nickel downs would move 427 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: inside to the nickel and your most inexperienced corner will 428 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: play right corner, meaning on the defensive right, the offensive 429 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: left which is the backside of most right handed quarterbacks. Um, 430 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: that's where you hide your inferior player. And so, um, 431 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: what you want to do is you want to make 432 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: sure that you have someone who has seen a lot 433 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: of the game, who's kind of gone through a bunch 434 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: of different situations and understands how to play it from 435 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: a situational standpoint, from an experienced standpoint, he has a 436 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: level of expertise and playing inside, Yeah, nicol is not 437 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: necessarily a spot where you want to put a young 438 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: guy because it's it's tough in there. It's it's a 439 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: lot you have to kind of be able to tackle 440 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: like a linebacker. You have to play in space and 441 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: handle all of these adjustments, and so it's a high 442 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: i Q very technical position and I think it requires 443 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: some experience to be really really good at JP. One 444 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: of the most underrated players in that seventeen defense to 445 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: me was always Covid. Yeah, and I was gonna at 446 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: high level. Aaron Covin told me one time that you're 447 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna have some dogging you to play that too. Um, 448 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: so oh yeah, because when he's talking about that, like JP, 449 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: he's talking about when you're the nickel. Remember you're removing 450 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: a linebacker to put the nickel corner in. So the 451 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: nickel corner has to be tough enough to handle the 452 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: run responsibilities when they run it at you. He needs 453 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: to be able to be courageous enough to make blitz 454 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: is off the edge because a lot of defense coordinators 455 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: like to use slot pressures, UH to impact the quarterback. 456 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: He has to be able to cover slot receivers and 457 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: occasionally a tied in depending on what the personnel is. 458 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: And so this guy has to be a little different. 459 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: So the toughness is definitely there. He almost has to 460 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: be at decatholicte He has to be able to bring 461 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: a bunch of different things to the table to be 462 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: able to succeed inside in the slot. It's cold in 463 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: these days. Anyways, he got yeah, he's out he uh 464 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: Houston from play Houston for a minute, um and uh. 465 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: I happen to follow him on Twitter and it seems 466 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: like he's doing well and happy and I'm not sure 467 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: what he's doing that right, So this is the Huddle 468 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: Up Podcast. Let's say good by two miles Jack eight 469 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: million dollars in savings, a little over four million and 470 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: dead cap money. Jack had that great seventeen postseason, got 471 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: a contract extension. Was constantly it felt like moving as 472 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the seasons went along. When the defense would change a 473 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: little bit, he'd move some other position. The last couple 474 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: of years, the story was the green dot on and 475 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: off the helmet and back on again, calling the plays 476 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: on defense. He's still young, he's twenty six, but there's 477 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: some questions about his knees and his health there. For me, 478 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: the highlight was that seventeen playoff run. Those three postseason games, 479 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: he played big in big moments. Uh. He is a 480 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: cap casualty. He's out of your job. I'm glad you 481 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: brought that up as a totality of the seventeen postseason 482 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: because everybody remembers, and it's be kind of you know, 483 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: a legend in these parts that Miles Jack wasn't down 484 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: to play against New England would have got in the 485 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think, Um, but what's forgotten exactly what 486 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: you just said. A A huge play it's Buffalo. Uh. 487 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: It was a huge game changing play against the Bills, 488 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: either a tip or an interception. Um. And then a 489 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: huge interception on sideline against Pittsburgh when they were getting 490 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: that lead that you know, for Net was you know, 491 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: monstrous early in that game to get in that lead. 492 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: But the Miles jack play along with the Telvin Smith's 493 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: play were the two key defensive plays in that game 494 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: that probably without if they don't win it because they 495 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: don't have that huge lead. I guess it's fair to say, 496 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: either from being used or whatever happened, he never quite 497 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: lived up to the hype because there was so much 498 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: hype at the beginning. And if that's true, which maybe 499 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: it is, it still shouldn't be lost that he was 500 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: really good for a long time and made a lot 501 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: of plays. He strikes me as a guy had the 502 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: team been better around him, he probably makes Pro Bowls, 503 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: makes more plays, more impact plays. Um. I hope and 504 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: think he should be remembered very fondly by Jaguars fans 505 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: as a really good player for this team for a 506 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, it's unfortunate because it was ted up 507 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: for him to really kind of go into the stratosphere. 508 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: Is one of the star players in this league. Coming 509 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: off the heels of that seventeen season, uh Jackson were 510 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: making a deep postseason run. The expectation was that the 511 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: Jaguars would remain a Super Bowl contender. That didn't happen, 512 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: But if the Jaguars had continued to play at a 513 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: high level, they would have been more eyeballs on Miles 514 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Jack and what he was able to do as a 515 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: look a terrific talent at the position. Now his time 516 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: has come to an end, but I still think there's 517 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: some value to what he brings to the table. I 518 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: still think he has a lot of good football left. 519 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: I think the main thing for him is finding the 520 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: right spot where his talents can kind of be showcase. 521 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's a run and chase player, 522 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: meaning he needs to be a will linebacker that can 523 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: run and do some things. He had chances here, but man, 524 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: when you can't stop to run, you can't do those things. 525 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: You're always playing from behind. It's really hard to showcase 526 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: your off the ball linebacker. And so maybe going forward 527 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: here I have an opportunity to really showcase all of 528 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: the talents that he brings to the table. That'll do 529 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: it for the Huddle Up Podcast and anyone he got 530 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: coming up this week. Buck. Now, you know, we're just 531 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: getting closer, man, Like everyone's going on Pro Day, so 532 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for a big week next week. I 533 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: think the Quarterback Pro Days are Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Some 534 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: of the covers there you can chance see some of 535 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: these guys who think for us, we're not in the 536 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: quarterback conversation right who? Yeah, who's gonna see next week? 537 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Uh So next week I think the top the top 538 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: of you guys go. I think it's Kinny Pickett, uh, 539 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Malik Willis and Matt Correll. I think also goes next week. 540 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: So we get a chance those Jags need one of 541 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: those guys selected number one. Overall, that's not gonna happen, 542 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: Like the league has already told you. No, the League 543 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: has already told you what they think about those quarters backs. 544 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: When as soon as we come back from the combine, 545 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: after doing all that hype and hey man, these guys 546 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: are good, every team in the league went like dominoes 547 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: and got veteran quarterbacks and traded forming those things. Right now, 548 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of love on the street for 549 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: those weird young guys. All right, well we'll aim you, 550 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: but either way, we'll look forward to your coverage of 551 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback Pro Days coming up. But that's Bucky Brooks, 552 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: John Oser for Joe Fortunato. I'm j p. Shadrick, Thank 553 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: you for listening. It's Huddle Up Podcast.