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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, welcome to the show. We got a big

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Speaker 1: one for you tonight. Don't I say that because they're

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Speaker 1: all big. Every game's big, every show's big. It's the season.

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Speaker 1: The Texans, first place in the AFC South, playing the

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Speaker 1: first place Detroit Lions from the NFC North, the Men

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Speaker 1: of the North, and this is the last NFC North

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Speaker 1: team the Texans will be playing this year. It's the

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Speaker 1: best one a one lost crew. Mark Vandermin and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you and let's kick off the show. Oh

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Speaker 1: by the way, later on, Steven at a Goke Safety's coach.

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Speaker 1: Really good guest. We're gonna have him on the program,

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. But first, the General John

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Speaker 1: McClain joins us. Good evening, General. Here we go Sunday, Detroit.

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Speaker 2: It's on. How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Thank you. I I'm excited about this game.

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Speaker 3: I like watching the Lions, like Dan Campbell. You know

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Speaker 3: who doesn't like Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 4: If you don't like.

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Speaker 3: Him, it's because you haven't paid attention to him. The

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Speaker 3: Lions are where the Texans could be next year, where

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Speaker 3: they're a physical team to meet. Joe Mixon has been

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Speaker 3: their MVP, so far, they're running the ball so much

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Speaker 3: better than last year. Last year in the back said

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Speaker 3: three touchdowns rushing all season. One of the reasons they

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Speaker 3: got mixing when they get to the red zone, specifically

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Speaker 3: inside the ten, they want to be able to run

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Speaker 3: the ball better. He has five touchdowns rushing. So the

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Speaker 3: running game is so much better. It's eleventh and two

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Speaker 3: years ago it was like next to last and so

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Speaker 3: they're doing that so well, and I would think for

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Speaker 3: a chance to win this game, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: run the ball well consistently, try to keep Jared Goff

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Speaker 3: on the sideline. But the one thing the defense has

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Speaker 3: done well for Detroit is played the run, and what

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Speaker 3: Detroit has not done well is rushed the passer. Since

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Speaker 3: a Nutchinson went out, he's still there, leading Sacker by five.

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Speaker 3: They don't have anybody other than the.

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Speaker 4: Newly acquired Sadarius Smith.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Smith, who had five sacks with Cleveland, which was

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Speaker 3: pretty impressive because they're behind all years. Not like you

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Speaker 3: got to tee off on anybody in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: So as usual, it'll be about the protection, specifically up

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Speaker 3: the middle. Ken strout to have time to throw, and

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Speaker 3: of course Ken maxonim, run the ball and try to

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Speaker 3: control the clot.

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Speaker 5: Okay, General, finish these two sentences. Taking all that you said,

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Speaker 5: and I want you to finish these two sentences.

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Speaker 2: The Texans will win this.

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Speaker 5: Game on Sunday night if the Lions will win this

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Speaker 5: game on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: If the Texans will win this game on Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: if they can control the ball and finish with an

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Speaker 3: advantage and turnover differential, the Lions will win this game.

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Speaker 3: If they are the Lions. Jared has been the most

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Speaker 3: incredible quarterback in NFL history when it comes to completions

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Speaker 3: in their six game winning streak in which they're averaging

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Speaker 3: thirty six points a game, and of course they have

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Speaker 3: great balance with two guys on pace. Toy have over

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Speaker 3: a thousand yards, So they just got to play the

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Speaker 3: type of game they've been playing during their winning streak.

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Speaker 3: But I think the Texans have to force turnovers. They

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Speaker 3: have to get Jared Goff. He's only run like fourteen

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Speaker 3: times for eighteen yards, so they know where he's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: But the key is getting him because their offensive line

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Speaker 3: is the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to rework one of those sentences.

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Speaker 1: If the Texans win this game, I think they will

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Speaker 1: have solved, or at least temporarily for the moment, solved

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Speaker 1: one of their biggest problems, which is past protection, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: because if they win this game, I think they've hit

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Speaker 1: on some big plays through the year, because we've seen

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Speaker 1: them run the ball well and even win the turnover

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard. But if they win this one, I think

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Speaker 1: they will have hit some big pass plays, and with

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins not practicing for two consecutive days, obviously you're

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Speaker 1: think it's one of the more perplexing things about this team.

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Speaker 1: They're running the ball well but not able to capitalize

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Speaker 3: Because the past protection, specifically interior, has been so bad.

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Speaker 3: And you can tell that Stroud is missing some receivers

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Speaker 3: that would be the way with any quarterback you keep

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Speaker 3: I would expect Bobby's slog now to adjust to when

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Speaker 4: To come out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's got to hit the hot receiver on slot blizzes.

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Speaker 3: He's got the To me, you should throw some screens

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Speaker 4: Mixing would be great, arguing, while.

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Speaker 3: They would be great on screens if they're blocking, they're

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Speaker 3: supposed to be blocking, and that's the key. They've tried

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Speaker 3: some and they haven't been blocking the way they should.

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Speaker 3: If you're a Texans fan, what should worry you is

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Speaker 3: you have now Kenyan Green's out. You know they could do.

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Speaker 3: They could play Kendrick Green. They could put Jack Patterson there.

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Speaker 3: They could move Titus Hour back to guard. They could

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Speaker 3: play Blake Fishard right tackle. I don't see him coming

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Speaker 3: we see a philosophic change about you can't wait Letya

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Speaker 3: gets down the field. I was watching again. Somebody tweeted it,

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Speaker 3: and I've watched it over and over. That long touchdown

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Speaker 3: of progressions, and get the plays in quick the old

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Speaker 3: Kiss method, keep it simple, stupid. I like the way

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Speaker 3: they came out throwing the ball to try to keep

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Speaker 3: the Jets off balance, expecting Joe Mixon to run a

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Speaker 3: lot on first down and the Texans. The other thing is,

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Speaker 3: what have they not been doing at halftime. They've been

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Speaker 3: really good in the first half, off on the third

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Speaker 3: they're not countering. And I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 3: they do against the Lions. And if they beat the Lions,

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Speaker 3: people are going to be really fired up about them again.

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Speaker 3: If they lose to the Lions, then they go their

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Speaker 3: third consecutive primetime game in Arlington, a game they im

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Speaker 3: guessing'll be favored in. And uh, and I look right now,

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Speaker 3: the AFC South is so bad it'll be an upset

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Speaker 3: if it don't sweep the division, and then that would

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Speaker 3: put you at nine and beat the Cowboys ten. Anything

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Speaker 3: else is gravy maybe Miami here, but uh, they could

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Speaker 3: if they could upset the Lions are three and a

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Speaker 3: half point favors. I think the league would look totally

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Speaker 3: different on them now than they are after the Judge debucle.

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Speaker 5: I have a better PC way of saying the kiss method.

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Speaker 5: Keep it simple, sunshine.

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Speaker 2: See they'll say stupid. See keep it simple, but word right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Actually, little kids, when my kid was about seven or eighty, said,

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Speaker 1: you said the S word, Yeah I did.

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Speaker 5: Oh stupid stupid? Yeah, yeah, that's call that the word

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Speaker 5: in theirs household too. They've heard a lot of S

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Speaker 5: words since, and it weren't stupid at that point. General,

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Speaker 5: we've talked a lot about the offense, the offense and

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Speaker 5: the offensive lie, et cetera. There's a chance that they're

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Speaker 5: higher probability that Will Anderson won't be out there, But

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Speaker 5: you more than likely we get his easy shier back,

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Speaker 5: You more than likely get Jimmy Ward back. Defensively, that's

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Speaker 5: obviously big key because that Lions offense can do it

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Speaker 5: both ways. They can do it through the through the air,

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Speaker 5: they can do it on the ground. They can do

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Speaker 5: their screens, they can do a catch and run, they

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Speaker 5: can do deep shots, they.

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Speaker 2: Can do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 5: But getting his z's and Jimmy back potentially, even though

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Speaker 5: Will might not be out there.

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Speaker 2: What's the impact of those two coming back potentially.

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Speaker 4: Well, it'll be tremendous to get him back.

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Speaker 3: Also, I'd like to see Derek Barnett back out there

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Speaker 3: because he can play. And Deniko Audrey had two sacks

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Speaker 3: in the game, which shows he's back in football good

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Speaker 3: football shape now after his suspension. And you hate to

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Speaker 3: lose Will Anderson Junior at any time. I'd be stunned

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Speaker 3: if he plays in this game. No need throwing him

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Speaker 3: out there on a bad angle and because you don't

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Speaker 3: want to make it worse. And they've gotten good pressure

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Speaker 3: on the quarterback and yet they're tied with the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: for allowing the most touchdown passing in the league nineteen

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Speaker 3: and so Golf likes throw the ball down the field

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Speaker 3: because he gets good protection. As you mentioned, he has

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Speaker 3: great balance And I'm and Ross Saint Brown can't wait

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Speaker 4: Playing really, really well.

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Speaker 3: And uh so it's going to be fun to watch

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Speaker 3: this defense, which is number two in the league, going

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Speaker 3: up against this Detroit offense, which is outstanding for a

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Speaker 1: They're number two in the league, but not number two

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Speaker 1: in points allowed, and I know that Demiko would rather

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Speaker 1: have that be second points allowed. But they are doing

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Speaker 1: some things really well here on defense. They get pressure,

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Speaker 1: they get TFLs, they get after it.

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Speaker 2: Can they get the ball away from Detroit?

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Speaker 1: Can they knock the ball loose, pick it off, whatever

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Speaker 3: In his sixth game winning streak, Golf is completed eighty

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Speaker 3: four percent of his passes. That's unheard of, and he

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Speaker 3: has a chance to break Drew Brees' record for the

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Speaker 3: highest completion percentage. He only has fourteen touchdown passes. You

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Speaker 3: think he had twenty. So every time you look up,

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Speaker 3: somebody's going deep. The key is you Nobody's been able

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Speaker 3: to do this. Stop the run. Put him in long

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Speaker 3: But they run the ball so better you're not sure

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Speaker 3: what they're going to do. They'll run it on third

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Speaker 3: and three, where most teams will throw it on third

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Speaker 3: and three, so they have great balance. And I think

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Speaker 3: the Texans can score on their defense if they just

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Speaker 3: give Stroud a modicum of time in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: People talking about, oh, GoF should enter the MVP conversation,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. The MVP conversation is what it is. But

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Speaker 1: to me, that entire offensive line should enter the MVP conversation.

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Speaker 1: Can you name an entire offensive line co MVPs of

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Speaker 1: the league?

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you couldn't figure enough base put

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Speaker 3: all five of them in there once, and it's been

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Speaker 3: great run blocking in past protection. You know, they signed

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Speaker 3: Kevin Zeitler as a free agent and.

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Speaker 4: They've been healthy. That's another thing.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You know they got three former number ones in there,

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Speaker 3: and I think Zeidler wasn't he a number one? I

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Speaker 3: that's why it bothers me. The Texans have you know,

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Speaker 3: Laramie counted two number ones, Titus number one, Juice number two,

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Speaker 3: Mason expensive free agent Kenyon Green was a number one.

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Speaker 3: You expect more from a group that they came that

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Speaker 5: Now he can't get beat on pass protection, and that's

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Speaker 5: Dennis Allen is out as the New Orleans Saints head coach.

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Speaker 5: Is it a FATA complete that Detroit Lions defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: Potentially, potentially they may decide. You guys know how it

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Speaker 3: Everybody's going to try to get Ben Johnson and the Lions.

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Speaker 4: He I don't know why he hadn't have taken.

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Speaker 3: But usually I'm just saying, usually you don't do the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about this? Aaron Glenn to the Jets where

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Speaker 3: Would you want to go the jobs? There's only thirty

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Speaker 1: All right, Dallas plays the Eagles late windows Sunday. That's

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for that one.

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Speaker 1: And the Cowboys three and five going in with fire up,

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Why would no? He's out, But why would you do

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Speaker 3: And nothing they do about Dak Prescott. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking Jerry's gonna want Trey Lansing there. He'll say, well,

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Speaker 3: And Bill Belichick was praising Jason Light at Tampa, who

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Shador Sanders and Dion Sanders are.

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Speaker 2: Going to Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's see that it's going to Dallas.

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Speaker 5: We'll go to Dallas next week. But Cincinnati is going

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Speaker 3: Ravens, Yes, you got to give him a shot. But

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Speaker 3: The Bengals defense is not nearest good as it has

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Speaker 4: Why did we get rid of Joe Mixon?

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Speaker 3: So maybe they got a little more balanced now, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel a lot better about this one in

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Speaker 2: One is to the Chiefs at opening Night.

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Speaker 1: The other two were ambush games, the Raiders coming back

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Speaker 3: They're talking about he may have to have surgery on

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Speaker 3: I'd rather see Mac Jones and Trevor Lawrence. But wouldn't

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Speaker 5: We're not surprised James He's played well there before. Wow,

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Speaker 5: in his hometown of Jacksonville. Okay, they would be kind

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Speaker 2: And here's your trivia question. Mark. Mark was unable to

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Speaker 5: Who's the last Bills starting quarterback to beat the Colts

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Speaker 4: Well, let's see, it must go back to the RCA

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Speaker 1: It definitely does. It does, maybe a little further back

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Speaker 2: And who do you think will this Sunday and beyond?

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Speaker 3: They got to go back with Richardson a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: He just looked awful.

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Speaker 2: General.

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Speaker 1: When the Texans played the Titans the regular season finale, I.

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Speaker 1: Because there's nothing like doing that to get the Nashville

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Speaker 1: Help it, but the general manager of the Titans is

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Speaker 3: When he got Mike raybow out, he got all the power,

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Speaker 4: And I think he will be allowed to acquire.

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Speaker 3: But I and I do not think a lot of

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Speaker 3: for the Titans.

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Speaker 6: Wait to be kind of nice.

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Speaker 1: Wait, the Texans have to wear that? Oh I see, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I want to rub it in because they know that.

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Speaker 1: To wear it one more time. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they do that, I waste it on them.

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Speaker 4: Oh why do you have it to begin with?

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Speaker 2: For them? We have it because we like it.

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Speaker 1: They have it for us, They have that oiler stuff

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Speaker 1: for us generally.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned earlier, You mentioned earlier Mike Rabel's name. Do

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Speaker 5: you think Rabel ends up with one of these coaching openings?

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Speaker 5: We know there are two right now. We've got the

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Speaker 5: Saints that are open, and we've got which other opening?

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Speaker 2: Do we have Jets? Jets? Jets? We have Jet Saints.

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Speaker 5: Do you think Mike Rabel ends up with one of

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Speaker 5: those openings? Not one of those, but just all coaching opening?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean a defensive coach, but if you take

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Speaker 3: that away, I would want Mike to be the Jets

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Speaker 3: coach because you know, he towers over Aaron Rodgers. So

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Speaker 3: when Rogers trying to tell him what to do, unless

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Speaker 3: he's sitting, he's kind of intimidating. Everybody said Mike was

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Speaker 3: always intimidating, So I'd love to see him up there

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Speaker 3: kicking serious butt with his players, with the.

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Speaker 4: Media, and he would eat it up because.

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Speaker 3: He's from there, and he's got that personality because he

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Speaker 3: was there from Ohio.

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 3: But and I think Mike will be head coach. And

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Speaker 3: I think everybody's starting now that complained about.

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Speaker 4: Him last year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they were a little too quick on the trigger,

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Speaker 3: because remember when Rabel coached the Titans, no matter how

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Speaker 3: bad they were, they always were capable of winning.

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Speaker 2: You knew you were at a game.

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Speaker 3: The last game against Jacksonville in Jacksonville, all the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: had to do was beat the lowly Titans.

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Speaker 4: Twin the AFC.

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Speaker 3: South Texan's been a wild card and gone on the

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Speaker 3: road and Rabel takes them in there and they beat

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars. And that's what he is capable of doing.

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Speaker 3: And everybody said, I can't believe he didn't get a job.

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Speaker 3: How do we know he didn't turn down something? Probably

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Speaker 3: he still had multiple years left on his contract for

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Speaker 3: millions and millions of dollars now going to Cleveland. You know,

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Speaker 3: he's he's fortunate to not be mentioned in any of

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Speaker 3: that mess up there. But I think Michaeil get another

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Speaker 3: head coaching job, and I'm glad that he does. Problem

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Speaker 3: with the Saints, the worst cap situation may be ever cap.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, all right, So I'm gonna name four. Two

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Speaker 1: of these are definitely open, two more could be open.

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Speaker 1: You tell me which job you would want, not for Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: but for anybody coach X, maybe even Belichick. All right,

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Speaker 1: So the Jets, the Saints obviously, Giants, Jaguars. Is there

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Speaker 1: another one on the board? Cowboys, Giants, Jaguars. Those five

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Speaker 1: will give me the best job out of the lid.

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Speaker 3: Thing about the Cowboys. You're the head coach of America's team,

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Speaker 3: and there's a lot that comes with that. But you

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones telling you what to do. Now, Jerry's years old,

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Speaker 3: and Jerry doesn't come up by watch film and decide

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do this or this. He talks to

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Speaker 3: his son Steven. He talks to Will McLay, recognized as

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Speaker 3: a really good personnel guy. He talks to the head coach.

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Speaker 3: I remember Parcells told me Jerry wanted Eddie George Bill

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Speaker 3: like a young running back. Jones, I can't remember his name,

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Speaker 3: but he told Jerry, hey, you want Eddie George, I'll

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Speaker 3: coach it. Bill didn't want to, Jerry did, and Jerry

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Speaker 3: didn't tell them you have to do it. But Bill said, hey,

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Speaker 3: if you want him, bring him in, I'll coach him.

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Speaker 3: So there is a little flexibility, and so I would

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Speaker 3: think that would be the most prestigious. New York's would

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Speaker 3: be the most difficult. Jacksonville would be the easiest. No pressure,

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Speaker 3: no pressure from fans, no pressure from media, an owner

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Speaker 3: who doesn't tell you what to do. I would think

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Speaker 3: Mike Brabel if he might want to take one of

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Speaker 3: the New York jobs just so he could get in

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Speaker 3: there and get it, get in the middle of it.

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Speaker 4: But I would want that Jacksonville job.

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Speaker 2: Very cool. General, What do you have going on in

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans dot Com?

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Speaker 3: I have a column that's going up in the morning

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Speaker 3: in which I analyze what the Texans need to do

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Speaker 3: to win a game.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. John McClain joining us. Coming up.

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Speaker 1: Steven had a go okay, safety's coach for your Texans.

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Speaker 1: Interesting guy. We have a discussion with him. It's happening

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. Great to have you along on the

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Speaker 1: ride here Texans Radio. As the Lions invade on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night seven twenty kickoff for twenty Texans Countdown presented by

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Speaker 1: MODELO Especial, and we've got a very especial evening for you.

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Speaker 1: Lions seven to one, Texans six and three, obviously in

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Speaker 1: first in the AFC South. We've talked about that a

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Speaker 1: ton tonight with the General John McClain. But let's get

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Speaker 1: to this. An interview with an assistant coach. We do

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Speaker 1: it every Thursday night, and this is Steve been at

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Speaker 1: a Goke. He coaches safeties. Now you got three coaches

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Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield. You have Corey Undlin who's the

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Speaker 1: defensive passing game coordinator, and dB coach Dino Vasso who's

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Speaker 1: the cornerbacks coach and coach at a Goke coach's safety.

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Speaker 1: So three men manning things back there and a good

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Speaker 1: group for Adigok to work with. John Harris and I

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Speaker 1: have visited with him in studio today. Coach, how's it going?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Good, happy to be here. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: We're doing great, looking forward to the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: How was it for you having a little time off?

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Speaker 1: And I know your group, It's not like you're meeting

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. But guys get rest, Guys get regen.

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Speaker 1: What about you personally and your group?

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Speaker 8: Just football, Yeah, never stops, always learning and growing, trying

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Speaker 8: to find ways to get ahead and stay ahead.

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Speaker 6: So just use that for the next opponent.

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Speaker 5: Stephen, You've had some movement back there with some injuries

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Speaker 5: and things. But I want to start with the young buck.

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Speaker 5: I want to start with Kaylin and what you've seen

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Speaker 5: from him, because he's brand new, but he's gotten his

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Speaker 5: feet wed, he's been in there, he's been making some plays.

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Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on Kaylen's progress thus far this year?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kaylyn's been working hard.

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Speaker 8: He shows up every day with the right attitude first

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Speaker 8: and foremost, so starting there, I think the mindset coming

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Speaker 8: in is soaking up all the information he can, especially

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Speaker 8: from the vits, wanting to learn, positive attitude, wants to

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Speaker 8: be coached, and it goes out in there and does

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Speaker 8: what we ask him to do. And it's been shown

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Speaker 8: up since he got here. Guys been making plays on

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Speaker 8: the ball training camp OTAs and it showed into the season.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Some guys just seem to have a knack for being

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Speaker 1: able to locate the ball. The ball ends up in

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Speaker 1: their hands. Is there something to that. Are some guys

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Speaker 1: more naturally inclined to do that than others? How does

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Speaker 1: that work?

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Speaker 2: Coach?

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Speaker 8: As we all are in human beings shaped by our

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Speaker 8: past experiences, Kaylan background is baseball, So tracking the ball

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Speaker 8: from center fields one of the hardest thing to do,

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Speaker 8: Like you're talking about from two hundred feet two hundred

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Speaker 8: and fifty feet away, seeing a white ball come off

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Speaker 8: a bat like now you're tracking big leather football like

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Speaker 8: it's a lot easier and same thing with the rest

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Speaker 8: of the guys room different different backgrounds in sports, and

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Speaker 8: he shows up in their athletic ability.

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Speaker 5: Coach Eric Murray has been a guy that's been around

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Speaker 5: here since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I think he's one of the more most tenured.

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Speaker 5: Texans and he's played a number of different roles, and

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Speaker 5: he's played a number of different roles for this team

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 2: Were your thoughts about what E.

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Speaker 5: Murray brings to the group the grizzled veteran of that group.

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Speaker 5: I guess Jimmy's probably a little bit older, but let's

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Speaker 5: talk about em Murray first.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Jimmy's the oldest guy. I Murray about two years

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Speaker 8: but again starts with the attitude. Guys a part of

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Speaker 8: this team, part of the organization again, from top to bottom.

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Speaker 6: Everybody has the right attitude.

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Speaker 8: So e Murray has done everything we asked him to

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Speaker 8: do again, starting with showing up with the right attitude,

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Speaker 8: ready to work, and now again being able to move

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Speaker 8: around in the back end play different positions and as

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Speaker 8: well help the younger guys and maybe other inexperienced players

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Speaker 8: as well as others that have experienced like Jimmy. Whatever

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Speaker 8: they see on the field. They communicate with each other,

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Speaker 8: communicate with each other and been doing a great job

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Speaker 8: uplifting each other, encouraging and competing.

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Speaker 1: So we visited with there Irick and we were asking

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Speaker 1: them he takes care of his body versus when he

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Speaker 1: first started, and it's really evolved for him. Coach, and

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Speaker 1: I know you have people here to help out with

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Speaker 1: that nutrition staff and everything. Do you get involved with

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Speaker 1: that aspect of the players' lives and how they're eating

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Speaker 1: and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: I know you get.

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Speaker 1: Involved with the workouts obviously directly, but a young guy

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Speaker 1: like Carolyn comes into the league, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: know everything Eric knows about taking care of his body.

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Speaker 2: How does all that work with you.

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Speaker 8: I think starting with like just off the field, the

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Speaker 8: player development staff, starting with like Morgan Kleinschmidt, Andre Davis,

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Speaker 8: Camille Mikado, everybody that puts hands around these guys as

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Speaker 8: soon as they step in the building, they do a

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Speaker 8: great job of just informing them of things that are

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Speaker 8: going on necessarily, not just on the field. From a

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Speaker 8: Dietitian standport with Lad, Jacob and Amy, everybody is helping

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Speaker 8: these guys as soon as they step in the building.

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Speaker 8: So the diet from the diet aspect has been going

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Speaker 8: on some OTAs and now that they're in the season,

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Speaker 8: like they're getting feedback from Lad, the training staff and

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Speaker 8: Mike you Banks and all those guys, So talking to

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Speaker 8: them about what they need versus you know, learning from

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Speaker 8: the vets and seeing how the Vets do it. So

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Speaker 8: maybe everything is not gonna be the same as how

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Speaker 8: they recommend. You might need more or less, you know,

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Speaker 8: based on your experience you're playing time and your age.

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Speaker 5: Coach, where does I feel like there's almost this fight

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Speaker 5: for Jalen Petrie, like he's part of Safety's and Nickels,

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Speaker 5: so you get him in your.

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Speaker 2: Meeting room at all during during the week.

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Speaker 5: Does he have to end up learning safety in certain

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Speaker 5: weeks or certain situations or is he purely out of

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Speaker 5: your room like he's not.

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Speaker 2: A safety, He is a nickel going forward, I.

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Speaker 8: Think on Jalen's medical records his blood type is football player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's a good but so yeah, it's a good one.

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Speaker 8: Jalen learns extremely well, absorbed information tremendously well. And again

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Speaker 8: as a back end, we meet together. Yep, so guys

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Speaker 8: can cross train without having Okay, I gotta go this

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Speaker 8: meeting room in the morning and afternoon. We meet together,

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Speaker 8: and we do a great job collectively. I think with

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Speaker 8: Dino Corey Ulin everybody as a unit, we all share

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Speaker 8: the same mindset in terms, we just want to help

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Speaker 8: the players get better each day and help us win.

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Speaker 1: Steven Hadagke, safety's coach for the Texans, joining us in studio.

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Speaker 1: Along those lines with Jalen, you said blood type is

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Speaker 1: football player. He likes to hit people, and same question

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Speaker 1: about the ball tracking stuff. Some guys seem to like

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Speaker 1: to hit people more than others. Everyone's doing it, they're

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Speaker 1: professional football players, but certain guys really like to lay

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Speaker 1: the lumber.

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Speaker 2: So how does that work?

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Speaker 8: Coach I think again, like Jalen has had experience again

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Speaker 8: starting Pop Warner Stafford when he's in high school, got

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Speaker 8: to play linebacker, played a little running back. So again,

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Speaker 8: like he's been prepared and trained for contact, like that's

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Speaker 8: just natural for him versus like he's been growing and

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Speaker 8: developing in the past game and so like Jalen has

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Speaker 8: a knack for violence in the football on the football field,

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Speaker 8: and he displays the day in and day out. Same

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Speaker 8: thing I could say for Jimmy Ward. Like Jimmy's been

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Speaker 8: playing defensive whole life. Like in high school, you know

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Speaker 8: a lot of guys played both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 8: Jimmy played defense, and so in Alabama in high school,

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Speaker 8: you can you can't hit, can't play. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 8: that shows up for Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Has Jimmy been a big help to Jalen as a

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Speaker 1: guy who's played multiple positions in the defensive backfield.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Jimmy's been a big help for everybody.

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Speaker 6: Because Jimmy came in the league.

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Speaker 8: He played corner, outside corner, He's played nickel, He's played safety, obviously,

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Speaker 8: he's played dime, he's played gunner.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: He played Jameron Pumper turn he's really done at all,

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Speaker 8: And so Jimmy's been a big help even for me.

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Speaker 8: Like Jimmy's been the NFL eleven years now, right, so

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Speaker 8: like he's seen a lot a lot of football.

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Speaker 5: Coach, I heard this, and I was trying to remember where. Oh,

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Speaker 5: I know I heard it from to my colleague to

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Speaker 5: the left. What when you have players that have been around,

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Speaker 5: they've seen some things, and they're like, hey, coach, I

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Speaker 5: think this. I think maybe I could do this, or

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Speaker 5: maybe we could run this player. You know this place

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Speaker 5: we used to run this. How important is it for

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Speaker 5: a coach to actually listen to players and hear what

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Speaker 5: they have to say, taking into account as opposed to

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Speaker 5: I'm the coach, you're the player you play, I'll coach.

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Speaker 5: How important is it for the coach to be malleable

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Speaker 5: in some sense, to be able to listen to the players,

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Speaker 5: to be able to know, Okay, because you mentioned it

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Speaker 5: with Jimmy a while ago, that might be a guy

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Speaker 5: you want, might might want to listen to you because

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Speaker 5: he's been around, he's seen some things.

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Speaker 8: It's funny to use the word malleable. I used that

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Speaker 8: in the meeting room or this morning for guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: ready to change. It's good word.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good word applies the metal.

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Speaker 8: So I think understanding football football is a collaborative effort

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Speaker 8: from coaches to scouting again, to the weight room, to

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Speaker 8: the nutritionist dietitians. It's a collaborative effort and it doesn't

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Speaker 8: change when it comes to the players. So again, like

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Speaker 8: what do you ask a player what they feel comfortable with? Coach,

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Speaker 8: I feel comfortable doing X, Y and Z. How does

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Speaker 8: that apply? What does that?

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Speaker 6: What does that have a home in our scheme?

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Speaker 8: And now let's mess it together and make it work,

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Speaker 8: because again, you see guys come into the league and

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Speaker 8: have success when they fall into the right system and

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Speaker 8: in the system. Okay, we have this player, like let's

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Speaker 8: say Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn has these tools and these abilities. Well,

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Speaker 8: like we don't need to line him up all the

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Speaker 8: time on end the line and just blitz. He can

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Speaker 8: play center field, he can play in the deep areas

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Speaker 8: of the field really well at a high level and

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Speaker 8: attack the ball. Let's try putting them back there and again,

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Speaker 8: now as you do that, you can mix it up

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Speaker 8: and do different things. But using their skills to fit

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Speaker 8: our defenses, and that's it's important. So to your point,

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Speaker 8: collaborating with the players, letting us know what they feel

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Speaker 8: comfortable with and they what they like, is important.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is a really important question to me anyway.

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Speaker 2: So in the meeting room.

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Speaker 1: Who's the most entertaining player, the guy with the best

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Speaker 1: stories jokes? I'm going to nominate Jimmy Ward, maybe even

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Speaker 1: Calyn Bullock as a rookie's pretty strong coach.

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Speaker 2: What he's in here with us pretty strong.

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Speaker 1: But Jimmy feels like you don't have his own talk

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Speaker 1: show or podcast.

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Speaker 8: Jimmy Ward is one of my favorite people on this planet.

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Speaker 6: Jimmy.

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Speaker 8: Jimmy has a story for everything. And Jimmy is very

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Speaker 8: blunt and very.

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Speaker 6: Uh, very genuine.

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Speaker 8: So sometimes like I don't know, I can make the

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Speaker 8: story like let's say Jimmy jammed his finger and it's crooked,

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Speaker 8: and the man's your finger all right, He's like, yep,

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Speaker 8: it's fine, works and just keep pushing so like he

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Speaker 8: might like man his fingers turned sideways and just he's genuine,

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Speaker 8: he wants to just keep going like he doesn't your

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Speaker 8: person His personality doesn't jump out as somebody's like, hey,

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Speaker 8: that dude's hurting like he doesn't matter, shrug it all,

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Speaker 8: keep it going.

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Speaker 6: So Jimmy's awesome. Jimmy's probably probably one of the most entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that was probably gonna be my guess. I

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Speaker 2: don't imagine the rookie probably holds back a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I bet Calem probably holds back a little bit in

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Speaker 2: a couple of years. Yeah, a couple of years. Give

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Speaker 2: him time.

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Speaker 5: He's from LA so there's probably something there, uh for sure.

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Speaker 5: Coaches the Lions this week seven and one. Last week,

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Speaker 5: you faced Aaron Rodgers, a grizzled vet who knows how

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Speaker 5: to do the little things of play in the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: Now you face Jared Goff, another grizzled vet who's been around,

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Speaker 5: He's seen some things. He's got a good wide receiver corps.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts on facing the Lions this weekend.

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Speaker 8: I think the Lions are a really good football team

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Speaker 8: and it shows like starting with the culture over there.

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Speaker 8: Everybody of their works, they put their head down, they

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Speaker 8: put on their hard hat, bring the lunch pill.

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Speaker 6: They're going to work. Is not always que pretty.

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Speaker 8: I know the trick plays flashed a lot on TV,

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Speaker 8: but those guys put their head down and go to work.

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Speaker 8: They run the football, they can play physical, they can

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Speaker 8: throw the ball, they can run it. So, I mean,

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Speaker 8: those guys have been put it on tape all year.

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Speaker 1: Long, playing prime time. This is your third one of

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Speaker 1: the season. You played one on the road, one at home.

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Speaker 1: Does that help having gotten through that whole routine before,

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Speaker 1: because it's a different situation waiting around all day no

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Speaker 1: matter what group you're coaching.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd say just as guys been playing football most

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Speaker 8: of them their whole life, and the mindset is put

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Speaker 8: the ball down in his play.

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Speaker 6: So they want to kick it off at nine am.

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Speaker 8: We can do it and eat breakfast after, you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean, Or if you wait till nine pm,

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Speaker 8: doesn't matter. He's got to be in the mindset to

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Speaker 8: put the ball down in play. But to your point,

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Speaker 8: it does help to have gone through the experience of

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Speaker 8: having a night game before.

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Speaker 6: But I think everybody he's just excited, ready to go.

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Speaker 2: You like that red helmet so far? Oh you stole

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Speaker 2: my questions. What he was going to say. Do you

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Speaker 2: like the red helmets?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're they're flashy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, flat from from face masks.

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Speaker 7: Nice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're nice, right.

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Speaker 2: Which one's your favorite?

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Speaker 5: The h Town ones we wore against Buffalo, the the

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Speaker 5: Liberty White which we wore last week, or the Reds now.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen the Reds in action, so we don't know,

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Speaker 2: But what do you think? Which one's your favorite?

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Speaker 6: I like, what the players like, whatever's going to help

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Speaker 6: them go out there. Good hand, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Good and good coach answer, Thanks a lot, coach, Good

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Speaker 2: luck to you.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Steven Atagoke Safety's coach for your Texans. Now, so match

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Speaker 1: up information from this one, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: bog you down with numbers, which means I'm about to

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Speaker 1: bog you down with numbers, but to keep it super simple.

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Speaker 1: And we mentioned points allowed earlier as a defensive stat

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Speaker 1: worth noting the Lions are fifth in the league and

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Speaker 1: points allowed defensively total defense, though they're twenty second. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Texans total defense second in the NFL points allowed fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: That's not a bad number, but it's not as good

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Speaker 1: as the Lions fifth in points allowed, So that's something

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Speaker 1: you want to sort of keep your eye on here.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I mean outscoring the opponent is important. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it No, But keeping the Lions to a low point

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Speaker 1: total twenty nine sacks for the Texans. Meanwhile, the Lions,

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Speaker 1: we talked about this with the general Aiden Hutchinson was

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Speaker 1: lighting things up. But they have twenty sacks. Texans have

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Speaker 1: nine more sacks, and they also get after it with

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Speaker 1: all the TFLs that they've got. Total offense, the Texans

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Speaker 1: are eleventh in the league, the Lions are seventh, and

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Speaker 1: they're running the ball at a good clip sixth of

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Speaker 1: the NFL in rushing yards. It's a true compliment between

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Speaker 1: Montgomery and Gibbs. Keep that in mind as they run

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Speaker 1: for one point fifty two a game. Now, as far

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Speaker 1: as the Texans go, they're eleventh in rushing offense, not

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Speaker 1: a terrible number one twenty six per game. Obviously, Joe

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Speaker 1: Mixon has the Lion's share. Ooh did I say that?

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Speaker 1: Pardon the pun of that. Things to keep in mind

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Speaker 1: as these two teams match up on Sunday. Of course,

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Speaker 1: running the ball crucial for the Texans. Pass protection crucial

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Speaker 1: for the Texans as they try to get that passing

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Speaker 1: attack going on fire.

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Speaker 2: Coming up.

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Speaker 1: Injuries always an issue we'll discuss, and we have Houston

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Speaker 1: Methodist minutes back injuries, not just for the athletes, but

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Speaker 1: for you, so many of you with bad backs. We've

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Speaker 1: got a doctor to help. It's coming up here on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. All right, let's get to it. The

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Speaker 1: injury report. Your Houston Texans at practice today and not

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Speaker 1: participating again. Will Anderson Junior fully foughtacasi. I don't like

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Speaker 1: these two at all. Missing practice. Kenyon Green still listed

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Speaker 1: as not practicing, still on the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: Jake Hanson, I don't like this ankle injury. Did not

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Speaker 1: participate after being limited yesterday. Jake did start practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so that is definitely worth watching because with a ziz

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Speaker 1: Al Shier coming back, you gotta watch out for. Hanson

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Speaker 1: has a great special teams player. Might not be able

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Speaker 1: to go, but we'll find out more tomorrow. No time

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Speaker 1: to panic just yet. Damian Pierce also out with groin injury.

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Speaker 1: Now here's some good news. Derek Barnett back today in

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Speaker 1: a limited capacity, and that's big because if you have

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Speaker 1: no will, you have to at least have Barnett. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you have daneil on the other side at the edge

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Speaker 1: and Dylan Horton coming back from an illness, missed practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: he was limited today. Shaq Mason full participant after being

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Speaker 1: limited with a hip yesterday. Interesting for Detroit. Here's the highlight.

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Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith back to back days, no practice, recently acquired

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Speaker 1: from Cleveland, of course personal reasons. So I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: it's unlikely that he goes Sunday night, missing two practices

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Speaker 1: with his new team, has yet to do anything with

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Speaker 1: the Lions, and they got to get him acclimated.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes. Let's see how this goes.

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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist minutes Doctor Cameron Safety of Houston Methodist on

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Speaker 1: back injuries. Doctor, how's it going.

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Speaker 7: It's going great? All right? For having me.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about back injuries. I'm glad I don't have

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Speaker 1: one right now, but you deal with so many different

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Speaker 1: types and we can get into athletes, but let's talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the more common back issues that you

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Speaker 1: see in your patients time and time again.

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Speaker 7: Well, we see a wider ray and that's one of

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Speaker 7: the challenges of back injuries. There's so many different causes

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Speaker 7: of back injuries because there's so many different pain generators

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Speaker 7: in the lumbar spine. Or the lower backs. So everything

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Speaker 7: from muscle issues, muscle strains, to you know, issues with

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Speaker 7: the joints, arthritis in the joints, issues with the discs

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Speaker 7: such as generative dis disease, and then issues with the

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Speaker 7: nerves where they get pinched and can cause pain down

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Speaker 7: the leg, which people refer to as sciatica. So there's

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Speaker 7: a there's a large list of issues, and so that's

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Speaker 7: why it's important to have you know, a multidisciplinary team

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Speaker 7: to try to figure out what the issue is.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we hear about athletes and normal weekend warriors

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Speaker 1: as well, but athletes having backspasms. What happens during a backspasm.

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Speaker 7: Well, the muscle can get irritated. Then this can be

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Speaker 7: from two different ideologies. It can be a primary issue

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Speaker 7: with the muscle, meaning and the muscle is fatigued or

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Speaker 7: there's a you know, tear in the muscle fiber, a

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Speaker 7: muscle strain and that's causing the muscle to be irritated

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Speaker 7: in spasm. Then on the other hand, you have underlying

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Speaker 7: issues that can cause the muscle to spasm, and so

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Speaker 7: you know, arthritis in the joints, other inflammatory issues that

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Speaker 7: can secondarily cause the muscle to spasm and the muscle

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Speaker 7: tightens up, and that's where people feel the pain.

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Speaker 2: What's the most common surgery you find yourself doing.

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Speaker 7: The most common surgery would be what's called a transsois

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Speaker 7: lateral lumbar inner body fusion, and we do this primarily

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Speaker 7: for what a condition called spondylolethesis, which is just medical

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Speaker 7: jargon for you know, when someone has a lot of

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Speaker 7: arthritis in the spine at a specific level and there's

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Speaker 7: some flip or instability in that level due to that arthritis,

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Speaker 7: and so that can cause pain and the body may

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Speaker 7: react by creating more tissue to stabilize it, but in

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Speaker 7: doing so, it also compresses the nerves and people can

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Speaker 7: get pain down the legs. So we do a minimally

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Speaker 7: invasive procedure to both take the pressure off the nerves

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Speaker 7: and stabilize the joint.

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Speaker 1: Finally, doctor, do you have any suggestions for back injury prevention?

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Speaker 2: Anything you could recommend?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, so a couple of things. Aerobic exercise cardio

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Speaker 7: exercise is excellent. There are large studies showing that patients

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Speaker 7: who have chronic back pain defined as greater than one year,

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Speaker 7: get significant relief from enrolling in an exercise program and

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Speaker 7: then physical therapy or just exercise of the lumbar muscles

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Speaker 7: in the lower back and the core. This can be

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Speaker 7: a combination of core strengthening and extens or muscle strengthening

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Speaker 7: and this can help prevent injuries in the future.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great, doctor, thanks so much for the information.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: There's doctor Comeronce Safey of Houston Methodist. It's the official

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Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Houston Texans. Houston Methodist leading medicine.

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Speaker 1: And that's it for tonight's show. We'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at six. Dimiko Ryan's on the program, also joining us

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Speaker 1: Denigo Autry among many other things tomorrow night. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night everyone, Go Texans.