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Speaker 1: Jebels Second date update? How do you do a second
Speaker 1: date update for a couple who's never been on a
Speaker 1: date before and never even met in person personal? I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but we're going to have to figure
Speaker 1: it out, because that's what we've got today for today's
Speaker 1: second date update. Kristen is on the phone and apparently
Speaker 1: that's her situation. What's up, Kristin? How are you? Hey?
Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you guys doing? Oh you sound
Speaker 1: so chipper. Well I'm okay, but I'm actually a little
Speaker 1: bit sad because here i am I'm having to do
Speaker 1: a second update. All right, so good. Your email said
Speaker 1: that you never actually met him in person and never
Speaker 1: went on a date. So tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about the guy you want to call today. Well, his
Speaker 1: name is Thomas. We met online and we were talking
Speaker 1: for about a month. That's a long time. It is
Speaker 1: a very long time. I mean, first of all, I
Speaker 1: have to tell you that he just looked so handsome
Speaker 1: and even on the phone, like the tone of his voice.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a gentleman, you know, and we
Speaker 1: just had like a really dip connection. Can I ask
Speaker 1: why you guys didn't meet up in that whole month
Speaker 1: long period of chatting. We never were able to think
Speaker 1: our schedules and so we try, but something always will
Speaker 1: come up, especially with his job. But I did have
Speaker 1: to tell you guys that it just went to the
Speaker 1: fund that we said I love you what oh way?
Speaker 1: I mean, it was this that deep of a connection.
Speaker 1: Who was the one to drop that first? You were him?
Speaker 1: He did, but I set it back. I want to
Speaker 1: be happy for you, but I'm having all sorts of
Speaker 1: red flags, like as he asked you for money is
Speaker 1: my first thought, because it feels like he's setting you
Speaker 1: up to take advantage of you for some reason. He's
Speaker 1: a gentleman, you know. We talked a lot about our
Speaker 1: life is and where we were in our lives, and
Speaker 1: we both really want a relationship and something serious. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you, I mean you definitely liked him a lot
Speaker 1: then loved him. Yeah. Well, I know it sounds stupid
Speaker 1: to say I love you to somebody before you meet them,
Speaker 1: but you know, once you say it. It's just it's
Speaker 1: out there, you know. Yeah, And in the moment, it
Speaker 1: just felt right, And so did you guys ever try
Speaker 1: to meet up. We finally got to have the date
Speaker 1: and we were going to have dinner at this restaurant
Speaker 1: and I show up and he never shows up. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, how long did you wait before you realize
Speaker 1: he wasn't showing up? I was there for about forty
Speaker 1: five minutes, and I was texting him, and then finally
Speaker 1: he got back to me, and he said that he
Speaker 1: went to another restaurant that had the same name, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't a different town. What he missed him the
Speaker 1: town location. Okay, I mean, at one point, are you
Speaker 1: not going to believe this guy? He's either catfishing you.
Speaker 1: I could honestly see how that's happened. Only one time
Speaker 1: has it happened to me. But it's happened anything. It's possibleriing,
Speaker 1: That's why I was thinking in my mind. But I
Speaker 1: also I was a little skeptical about it. So why
Speaker 1: didn't he just say wait there, I'll be right there
Speaker 1: Because he was too far. It was already too late.
Speaker 1: I've been there for forty five minutes. For an hour.
Speaker 1: So what do you do next? I try to look
Speaker 1: on Golo with their restaurant on another city and I
Speaker 1: couldn't find it. Seems like he lied to you then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was very heartbroken. Did you ask him about it?
Speaker 1: I did ask him about it? And now he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to get back to me, Like, he doesn't text
Speaker 1: me back, so I've not even had any contact with him.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I just don't like this guy. Aren't
Speaker 1: you mad too? I'm mad and I'm sad. I go
Speaker 1: from being mad and sad to be mad and bad
Speaker 1: because I just had You know, when you are dating online,
Speaker 1: you need too many people, and I want to really ship.
Speaker 1: I want somebody who I'm going to be settled with
Speaker 1: that love me, that I love fat, that you know
Speaker 1: we can make this happen. And then at this point,
Speaker 1: I think you should just strive for showing up to dinner.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, baby steps until you get to all that.
Speaker 1: I know. I don't know what are you wanting from
Speaker 1: this guy, Thomas right? Like, what do you want from
Speaker 1: him now? You actually want to go out with him again?
Speaker 1: Or you just want to tell him off? I want
Speaker 1: to hear his explanation first, before I decide if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell him off, because I really want to know
Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, he went from saying I love
Speaker 1: you and having this amazing connection to leaving me hanging
Speaker 1: and telling me a possible lie. So I just want
Speaker 1: an answer. Okay, Well, we'll play a song and then
Speaker 1: come back and call him and get your second day update. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, looking jubil in the morning. Second update if
Speaker 1: you're just tuning in for today's second day update. Kristen
Speaker 1: is on the phone and she wants to call a
Speaker 1: dude named Thomas. The thing is, they've never actually met
Speaker 1: in person, and they haven't gone out on a date.
Speaker 1: They met online. They talked for about a month, things
Speaker 1: got serious, serious enough to the point where they actually
Speaker 1: said I love you to each other. And then they
Speaker 1: set up a dinner date and Thomas never showed and
Speaker 1: his excuse was that he went to the same restaurant
Speaker 1: but in a different town, so we didn't have time
Speaker 1: to meet her. Then she googled if that restaurant was
Speaker 1: in that town and no, so it certainly seems like
Speaker 1: he's lying, all right, Kristen, Before we make the phone call,
Speaker 1: I do have maybe some news that might be kind
Speaker 1: of disturbing to you? Okay, what, well, I am actually Thomas.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I set this whole thing up to
Speaker 1: meet you during a second date up date. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Weird. Oh my god, you guys my heart
Speaker 1: to throb. What are you doing? Seriously, because right now
Speaker 1: Thomas could be anyone. Do you still buy his story
Speaker 1: that he's who he says he is. I don't even
Speaker 1: know anymore. I'm so confused. It's just I really want
Speaker 1: it to be I really do. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: hope he's not lying to you and that there is,
Speaker 1: like you said, some reasonable explanation. Yeah. I want to
Speaker 1: find now for sure so I can move on with
Speaker 1: my life. Okay, cool. I'm gonna dial his phone of
Speaker 1: it right now then and see if we can get
Speaker 1: your answer. Here we go, Hello, Hi, can I speak
Speaker 1: to Thomas? Uh No, this is not Tom, This isn't Thomas,
Speaker 1: this is Glenn. Can I ask his calling? Yeah? My
Speaker 1: name is Jewbil. I'm calling from brook and Jewil in
Speaker 1: the morning. It's a radio show. Okay, Hi, Hi, I
Speaker 1: was looking to speak with a Thomas h Yeah. No, okay,
Speaker 1: Well you said your name was Glenn. Yep, it is okay. Well, Glenn,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Did you start kind
Speaker 1: of an online relationship with a girl named Kristen a
Speaker 1: little while ago? Sorry? What is this about? I knew it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't an answer my question, Glenn, Yeah, exactly, Glenn. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: the reason that I'm asking you, Glenn, is because Kristen
Speaker 1: emailed us because we do a segment on our show
Speaker 1: called the Second Date Update. That's where if you go
Speaker 1: out on a date with somebody and then they end
Speaker 1: up not calling you back after, you can email us
Speaker 1: and hopefully find out why. And she told us a
Speaker 1: little bit about meeting a dude named Thomas online and
Speaker 1: talking to him for over a month. Things got very heated,
Speaker 1: to the point where Thomas and her were saying I
Speaker 1: love you, and then there was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: dinner date and that never happened. But strangely, the phone
Speaker 1: over that she gave me for Thomas is for you,
Speaker 1: and your name's Glenn. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, sorry,
Speaker 1: I was confused. I am Thomas. Yeah, Glen, we know
Speaker 1: that you're lying. Just come out with it. Why are
Speaker 1: you leading women on and telling them I love you
Speaker 1: on dating naps and toying with their emotions. That really
Speaker 1: hurts people. I know it sounds like that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me ex Flinn. So, Thomas is my middle name,
Speaker 1: and I go by Glenn sometimes in Thomas sometimes. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're admitting that you're you're the person that she
Speaker 1: was talking Yeah, yeah, no, I know Christian Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait wait the Christen that you were supposed to meet
Speaker 1: at the restaurant where you said you were in a
Speaker 1: restaurant in a different city. But then when she looked
Speaker 1: up that restaurant in the different city that didn't exist. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know a lot about me. Yeah, I did try
Speaker 1: to meet her, Okay. I mean it's kind of weird
Speaker 1: how honest you're being, because normally when people catfish somebody online,
Speaker 1: they would try to deny it. While it's kind of complicated,
Speaker 1: I guess you could call it a catfish, but it's
Speaker 1: not like that. Okay, Well then can you can you
Speaker 1: try to explain it please? So I so, actually I've
Speaker 1: met Kristen before. What better before? You mean like you
Speaker 1: had seen her picture on the same dating app or something,
Speaker 1: well that, but also I've met her in person. She
Speaker 1: just doesn't know that I'm who I say I am
Speaker 1: or who she's been talking to you. What. Wow, that
Speaker 1: cuts off as not only like catfishing and like an
Speaker 1: a whole move, but creepy. You sound creepy. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not prepy a. It wasn't expecting to talk about
Speaker 1: this right now. So I actually live in her building.
Speaker 1: You guys live in the same building. Yeah, it does not,
Speaker 1: as I didn't move into like stock her. I live
Speaker 1: in the apartment underneath her, and I really like her,
Speaker 1: and I'm just really nervous to talk to her. Okay,
Speaker 1: no one brought up Stocking. You're the only person that
Speaker 1: jumped to that conclusion, which is also a red flag. No,
Speaker 1: you guys are accusing me, and it just it's making
Speaker 1: me sound like I'm crazy, but I'm not. I really
Speaker 1: like Kristin and this whole situation is weird. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not accusing you anything. I'm just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what you're doing if it's not catfishing. Like I said,
Speaker 1: she lives in the unit above me, and I really
Speaker 1: like her. She's really cool and really pretty, and I'm
Speaker 1: just a kind of a nervous guy. So I thought
Speaker 1: I'd make this profile off to get to know her
Speaker 1: and then you know, meet her or talk to her
Speaker 1: in person with this information I have. And when you
Speaker 1: talk to her in person and you showed up and
Speaker 1: you were the dude that lives downstairs, you didn't think
Speaker 1: that would go bad. Well, I was just trying to
Speaker 1: use the information to talk to her about things she
Speaker 1: would like. But a fake persona, I was never going
Speaker 1: to meet her as that. I mean, I was just
Speaker 1: using that to kind of get to know her better.
Speaker 1: But it got really out of hand. So you were
Speaker 1: basically like being a spy on a dating nap in
Speaker 1: order to find out I don't know if she likes
Speaker 1: to go hiking, so that when you ran into her
Speaker 1: into the building, you could be like, oh, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: also going on a hike, let's go together, and then
Speaker 1: she would fall in love with the real you, not
Speaker 1: the fake you. Yes, exactly. Thank you for understanding whoa
Speaker 1: okay catfished her to get research on things to talk
Speaker 1: to her about. Elaborate. Yeah, that's a lot of work.
Speaker 1: And then how did you let your fake persona say
Speaker 1: I love you to her online? I don't know, she's
Speaker 1: awesome and I just got wrapped up into this fantasy. Okay,
Speaker 1: did you mean to actually schedule a date with her? Well,
Speaker 1: she was the one who was pushing it, and then
Speaker 1: I just thought since we talked a lot, like she
Speaker 1: could see past the weird beginning to this relationship we're
Speaker 1: going to have. Did you have any plan of actually
Speaker 1: meeting up with her? I gid plan on it, and
Speaker 1: then I freaked out at the last moment. So then
Speaker 1: what was your weight? So everything backfired and now you're
Speaker 1: just giving up on everything. You're not stalking her anymore? Well,
Speaker 1: I was never stalking her, but yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just it's all complicated. Yeah, super complicated. You know what
Speaker 1: else complicated? Even more? Thomas Kristen is actually on the
Speaker 1: phone listening and wants to talk to you right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god, oh
Speaker 1: my god. I'm I'm so sorry. This is so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think. I don't either.
Speaker 1: Who are you, oh, Glenn, I don't even know who
Speaker 1: you are, Like, what do you look like? We actually
Speaker 1: talked once in the laundry mat But I live underneath you.
Speaker 1: I'm in one or two. I'm the guy with the
Speaker 1: shaved head. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean for it
Speaker 1: to get like that. I just I think you're really
Speaker 1: cool and you're so beautiful, and I just was worried
Speaker 1: it wouldn't go well. So I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: know you cats fish me. I thought what you did.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is and arrassing. Well, okay, every night
Speaker 1: I have to find you with your boyfriend upstairs, and
Speaker 1: that's that should be me. You don't know me. Wait,
Speaker 1: what boyfriend? What are you talking about? That blonde guy,
Speaker 1: the one with the hair up to his shoulders. He's
Speaker 1: been around for like six months and I hear you
Speaker 1: guys all the time. First of all, he's not my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It's nothing like that. Okay, Okay, his girlfriend. I've heard it.
Speaker 1: You're like spying on her. So not only are you
Speaker 1: like creating faith personas to get into her life, but
Speaker 1: now you're just straight up listening to her conversations inside
Speaker 1: her apartment no our building, the scale and I just
Speaker 1: you guys are saying I'm lying while she's also lying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have a boyfriend or not? Because if you
Speaker 1: do have a boyfriend, it's weird that you're online trying
Speaker 1: to meet dudes telling him you love him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: both is not my boyfriend is a friend. We hang
Speaker 1: out a lot. It's a fun thing. It's not my
Speaker 1: perfriend and he knows that. Oh man, you guys are both. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't care if she's dating eight other dudes right now.
Speaker 1: What he did is so creepy. Okay. I know we're
Speaker 1: both in like a weird place and this all started
Speaker 1: out really weird. But when we were talking online there
Speaker 1: was something there. There was a good vibe, and like
Speaker 1: I was vibing with Thomas, not with Glenn. I am Thomas.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not Thomas. You put on the
Speaker 1: like fake pictures. It's so bad. You have no idea.
Speaker 1: Those are my brother? Actually, are breaking a picture of
Speaker 1: your brother? Yeah? Those are pictures of my older brother.
Speaker 1: Does he even know that you're doing that? No, he
Speaker 1: told me I should do it. You are such a
Speaker 1: bad liar. Are you actually trying to still make this work?
Speaker 1: I mean, she would literally have to be just as
Speaker 1: nuts as you to want to continue whatever weird fantasy
Speaker 1: relationship you started. Whatever. I mean, I'm not moving out
Speaker 1: of the building, So either we go on a day
Speaker 1: or just like I don't know. You cannot make me
Speaker 1: go on a day with you. This is just so
Speaker 1: that whatever this all got really out of hand. I
Speaker 1: was just trying to get to know you because I
Speaker 1: liked you, and now it's just weird and it's our fault. Glad,
Speaker 1: you could have talked to me like a normal person
Speaker 1: and just asked me out. Who knows, lady, I would
Speaker 1: have gone out with you. I did try to talk
Speaker 1: to you like a normal person in the laundry mat,
Speaker 1: and you were didn't even give me the time of day.
Speaker 1: You just walked out. I don't even remember this. Who knows,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what was going on in my
Speaker 1: mind that day. Whatever, I liked you, and I'm down
Speaker 1: to go out on another date if you want. All right, well, Kristen,
Speaker 1: would you like to go on a second, well a
Speaker 1: first date with Thomas. Thomas? We will pay for me. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm changing my lots. I mean, this is grout.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Glad. She needs to call her landlord
Speaker 1: right now. All right, Well, I'm not gonna talk to you,
Speaker 1: so don't worry. I'll forget you, exist, forget I exist,
Speaker 1: and tell your boyfriend I say hello, he oh my
Speaker 1: boyfriend text day at seven eight five nine two says
Speaker 1: I hope Kristin moves. Yeah, I think everybody does. It's
Speaker 1: Brooke and Jewel in the morning. If you miss today's
Speaker 1: second day update, it's girl. Kristen met a dude named
Speaker 1: Thomas about a month ago online and things got really serious,
Speaker 1: really fast. They were even saying I love you to
Speaker 1: each other before they actually met. They set up a
Speaker 1: dinner date, but Thomas never showed up, and then we
Speaker 1: tried calling Thomas, but a dude named Glenn picked up
Speaker 1: the phone and he admitted that he lived in the
Speaker 1: same apartment complex as Kristen and set up the profile
Speaker 1: because he hoped to learn some extra background about her.
Speaker 1: When you just spell it all out, it's so creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And she was creeped out, especially when Thomas
Speaker 1: said he knew about the other guy that she'd been
Speaker 1: hanging out with in her apartment. Yeah no, something about
Speaker 1: her guy asked her. Well, he did online as another
Speaker 1: person and it didn't work out well for him because
Speaker 1: he did not get a second date. Remember, you want
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