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Speaker 1: We're you mentioned school choice, and we're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 1: We're also gonna get some breaking news that deals with

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. But before we get to that, let's

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Speaker 1: start and talk about what's going on in Israel right now.

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Speaker 1: There has been over the last twenty four to forty

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Speaker 1: calls for a quote humanitarian ceasefire. It is frustrating when

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Speaker 3: These horrific terrorists.

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Speaker 1: We've heard even more about their atroses, including putting children

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Speaker 2: Well, Ben, as you know, this has been a battle,

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Speaker 2: the very beginning of this war. This war began on

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Speaker 2: October seventh with a grotesque act of atrocities. The attacks

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Speaker 2: the single grit greatest mass murder of Jews in any

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Speaker 2: squads went house to house, murdering every person in that house,

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Speaker 1: It's also shocking, I think to so many people that

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Speaker 1: All over the world, whether it's in Berlin, whether it's

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Speaker 2: Look, it has been tragic to watch that on the

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Speaker 2: the House of Representatives in the SQUAD and the Squad

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Speaker 2: This week, I saw a video form Mi alma mater

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Speaker 2: because unfortunately, it's not just the radicals in the house.

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Speaker 2: This is literally as Israel is having terrorists murder that

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Speaker 2: have a cease fire. Understand that the words cease fire listen.

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Speaker 2: Hamas does not intend to have a ceasefire until they

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Speaker 2: the complicity of the Biden administration. It is funding this attack.

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Speaker 2: It has flowed over one hundred billion dollars to Iran,

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Speaker 2: who planned and directed this attack. But not only that,

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Speaker 2: So is MSNBC, so is ABC. It's scary attack, It's terrified. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And we went through a dozen different clips, including we

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Speaker 1: If you didn't, if you did not get to hear this,

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Speaker 1: One of the things about being here, and they go

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. There is a really important week coming up

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Speaker 1: I get to pull back the curtain. You are obsessed

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Speaker 2: Do you know who that was? I don't Byron White.

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Speaker 1: what's going on and explain what the plan is for

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Speaker 2: So the Democrats are intending to issue subpoenas for three people,

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Speaker 2: for Harlan Crowe, for Leonard Leo, and for Robin Arkley

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Speaker 2: the second now all three of them. Harlan Crowe is

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Speaker 2: a very successful businessman in Texas. Leonard Leo is a

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Speaker 2: very close friend who who has helped lead the Federalist

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Speaker 2: Society for thirty years. I've known Leonard Leo for thirty years.

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Speaker 2: He's been actively involved in fighting to confirm conservative Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court justices for thirty years. The purpose of this subpoena

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Speaker 2: is there is a concerted smear campaign directed at Justice Thomas.

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Speaker 2: And so you've seen the stories about Justice Thomas flew

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Speaker 2: on a private plane. Justice Thomas was the guest at

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Speaker 2: the vacation home of a billionaire, and so he must

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Speaker 2: be corrupt. Now, I'm going to tell you two things

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Speaker 2: about that smear campaign. Number One, it is utterly and

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Speaker 2: completely hypocritical in that if you look at the numbers

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Speaker 2: from two thousand and four to twenty eighteen, the Justice

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Speaker 2: is disclosed, how many trips do you think they took

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Speaker 2: the nine justices? No idea one, three hundred and six.

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Speaker 3: That's a hell of a lot of travel.

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Speaker 2: That's nine people. They travel a lot. Six of the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court's nine members received paid trips to Europe in

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, including Berlin, London, Zurich. Uh Justice Stephen Bryer

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Speaker 2: was repeatedly flowed around by the billionaire Pritzker family from Chicago,

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Speaker 2: by the way, one of whom is the Democrat governor

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Speaker 2: of Illinois. Right now, Justice Sonoma or likewise flew all

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Speaker 2: over the place. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg flew all over

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Speaker 2: the praise. Justice Bryer took more reimbursed trips two hundred

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Speaker 2: and nineteen than any other member from two thousand and

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Speaker 2: four to twenty eighteen. And the attack that's directed Clarence Thomas. Look,

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Speaker 2: if you want to argue Supreme Court justices shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: able to fly on trips or on private planes, fine.

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Speaker 2: If you want to talk about rules that apply to everyone,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, that's a reasonable conversation. What's not reasonable is

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Speaker 2: to say, we're going to attack Clarence Thomas for doing

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Speaker 2: the same thing the other eight justices are doing, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to hypocritically apply rules to him that don't

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Speaker 2: apply to anyone else. Now, let me tell you something

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Speaker 2: on top of that, which is this smear campaign is

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Speaker 2: funded by and is driven by, in particular Pro Publica.

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Speaker 2: That has been the organizations that's putting out all of

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Speaker 2: these attack pieces. Now, who is Pro Publica funded by.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to quote from the Daily Caller quote nonprofit

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Speaker 2: news outlet Pro Publica, which published multiple stories detailing Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court Justice Clarence thomas alleged ethics violations, has many of

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Speaker 2: the same donors as multiple groups actively campaigning for Thomas

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Speaker 2: to be investigated or resigned. The Sandler Foundation, which launched

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Speaker 2: Pro Publica in two thousand and seven and is the

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Speaker 2: News outlet's largest donor, has given it almost forty million

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Speaker 2: dollars since twenty ten for general support. The Sandler Foundation

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Speaker 2: is also given over seven point five million dollars to

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Speaker 2: the Campaign Legal Center since twenty fifteen and over six

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Speaker 2: million dollars to the America Constitutional Society for general support

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Speaker 2: since twenty ten. Those are all rabid left wing organizations.

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Speaker 2: So understand, this smear campaign is driven by left wing billionaires,

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Speaker 2: and it is funded to delegitimize the Supreme Court. And

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Speaker 2: in particular, the left hates Clarence Thomas, and they hate

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Speaker 2: him with an intensity that is different from any other

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Speaker 2: conservative justice. Look. I knew Anton and Scalia very well.

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Speaker 2: He was brilliant, He was an extraordinary justice. He was

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Speaker 2: every bit as conservative as Clarence Thomas. And yet the

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Speaker 2: left did not keep contempt on Anton and Scalia the

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Speaker 2: way they do Justice Thomas. The left's view is for

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Speaker 2: a black man to dare to be conservative is an

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Speaker 2: unacceptable crime, is something that has to be punished. The

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Speaker 2: left refers to They do magazine covers with pictures of

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Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas as an uncle Tom sitting at the feet

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Speaker 2: of antonin Scalia. It is bigoted, it's racist, it's a lie,

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Speaker 2: it's im moral, and this viciousness directed at Clarence Thomas.

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Speaker 2: These subpoenas we're going to vote on this week in

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Speaker 2: the Judiciary Committee. The Democrats are going to have the

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Speaker 2: votes to issue them from Judiciary. But the good news

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Speaker 2: is they don't have legal force unless they get sixty

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Speaker 2: votes on the floor of the Senate, and the chances

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Speaker 2: of that happening.

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Speaker 3: Are zero, Thank goodness for that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into Q and A, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you one other thing, and it's the issue, and

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling a lot of people are going

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Speaker 1: to like this idea here school choice. I am a

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Speaker 1: huge proponent of school choice. It's been something that you

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Speaker 1: have been a champion of for years, but it's also

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Speaker 1: become in many circles they say a third rail. Don't

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Speaker 1: touch it, don't talk about it, don't deal with in politics.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in this next election cycle that Conservatives

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Speaker 1: can win on the issue of school choice and how

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Speaker 1: would they best do that nationwide?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 2: I think absolutely yes, I am There is no domestic

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Speaker 2: issue I care about more than school choice. I think

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Speaker 2: school choice is the civil rights issue of the twenty

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Speaker 2: first century. And listen. It is worth noting that school

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Speaker 2: choice has been around from the dawn of time. The

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Speaker 2: rich and the middle class have always had school choice.

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Speaker 2: If you were a student at the Bethesda Public Schools

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Speaker 2: in Maryland, Bethesa's, this very wealthy suburb of Washington, d c.

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Speaker 2: If that school had a fifty percent dropout rate, if

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Speaker 2: among the students that remained there fewer than half of

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Speaker 2: them graduated reading at grade level, If drug dealers were

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Speaker 2: walking in the hallways, if little girls were getting sexually

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Speaker 2: assaulted in the bathrooms, the Bethesda Public schools would be

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Speaker 2: empty immediately. Because the parents, they are rich, so they

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Speaker 2: would do one of two things. They would either write

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Speaker 2: checks and pay tuition at a private school, or they

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Speaker 2: would move to another neighborhood that had a better public school,

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Speaker 2: and they would exercise choice through choosing where to live.

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Speaker 2: That's what the rich have always been able to do.

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Speaker 2: That's what the upper middle class have always been able

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Speaker 2: to do. It is low income Americans. It is single

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Speaker 2: moms and inner cities who are trapped with failing schools

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Speaker 2: and those numbers I've described are true in school, after school,

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Speaker 2: after school in this country, and it predominantly hurts low

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Speaker 2: income kids, It hurts African American kids, it hurts Hispanic kids,

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Speaker 2: and the Democrat Party is bought and paid for by

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Speaker 2: the teachers' unions. If you look at African American communities

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Speaker 2: or Hispanic communities, systematically, sixty seventy as much as eighty

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Speaker 2: percent of African American parents, as much as sixty seventy

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Speaker 2: eighty percent of Hispanic parents support school choice. I believe

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Speaker 2: every child in America deserves a right to have access

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Speaker 2: to an excellent education, regardless of their race, of their ethnicity,

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Speaker 2: of their wealth, of their zip cost. So to say,

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Speaker 2: we are sitting in actually an extraordinary place because I

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Speaker 2: want to say to the men and women here, thank

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Speaker 2: you for your leadership. Arizona has led the nation in

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Speaker 2: providing choice to your students. It has been extraordinary, It

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Speaker 2: has been inspirational, it has been powerful, and the Goldwater

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Speaker 2: Institute has been pivotal in making that happen. And if

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Speaker 2: you look nationally, the two states at the front of

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Speaker 2: this fight have been Arizona and Florida. And I will

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Speaker 2: say something you and I are both Texans, and look Texans.

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Speaker 2: We are known for being quiet and for our humility.

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Speaker 2: Look ause Texans. I hate that there is anything Texans

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Speaker 2: are not leading on, but when it comes to school choice,

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Speaker 2: Texans have been lagging behind. And I can tell you

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Speaker 2: there's a major battle playing out in the Texas legislature

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Speaker 2: right now. We have the single best moment we have

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Speaker 2: ever had in our lifetimes to pass real and meaningful

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Speaker 2: school choice in Texas. The Governor Greg Abbott has said

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Speaker 2: he's going to keep pat calling special sessions until they

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Speaker 2: pass it. And I'll tell you something that I do

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Speaker 2: in Texas that is unusual. Ben So, virtually every US

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Speaker 2: Senator stays out of state primaries in their own state.

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Speaker 2: And the reason is getting involved in a primary in

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Speaker 2: your own state is just stupid. It hurts you that

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Speaker 2: if you make an endorsement in your own primary. In

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Speaker 2: a primary in your state, the rule of thumb is

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Speaker 2: you get half of their friends and you get all

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Speaker 2: of their enemies. I don't do that. I regularly endorse

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Speaker 2: in primaries, to the best of my knowledge. I don't

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Speaker 2: know another US Senator that does. To the best of

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Speaker 2: my knowledge, ninety nine of my colleagues do not. And

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Speaker 2: I endorse in lots of primaries in Texas. And here's

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Speaker 2: how I have my staff prepare an Excel spreadsheet of

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Speaker 2: every vote that a state legislator has cast on school choice.

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Speaker 2: And my rule is, if you voted in favor of

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Speaker 2: school choice, and you're otherwise relatively conservative, you're quite likely

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Speaker 2: to get my support. If you've voted against choice, the

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Speaker 2: chances of getting my support are essentially zero. And it

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Speaker 2: is very likely that I will indorse your primary opponent.

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Speaker 2: And when I do that, I don't do it. Jet

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Speaker 2: I come in and I cut radio and TV ads

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Speaker 2: and I come in.

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Speaker 1: You're accusing a lot of things. You going gently into

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Speaker 1: political time is not one of them.

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Speaker 2: So the stakes are too high. And so we had

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Speaker 2: last election cycle seven runoffs with the teachers unions on

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Speaker 2: one side and me on the other, and we beat

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Speaker 2: them in a majority of those races. And the reason

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Speaker 2: I do that, and listen, it hurts me politically to

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Speaker 2: do that. I am losing votes when I do that.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I'm doing that is that I want

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Speaker 2: for the state legislators, when they're thinking about what do

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Speaker 2: I do on this, for it to be a carrot

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Speaker 2: and stick that if there is a Republican House member

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Speaker 2: that's on the fence, do I support it? Do I not?

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Speaker 2: I want them to say, you know, I really don't

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Speaker 2: want crews to screw around in my primary. So maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll just do the right thing and I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 2: And it's something than why I'm so inspired by the

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Speaker 2: men and women in this room. When I was first

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Speaker 2: elected to the Senate in twenty twelve, here's what I

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Speaker 2: told Heidi. I said, sweetheart, if when I die, if

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Speaker 2: my tombstone says Ted played a meaningful role in bringing

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Speaker 2: about school choice to every child in Texas and every

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Speaker 2: child in America, I will die a very very happy man.

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Speaker 3: Amen to that. So we really get to do this.

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Speaker 3: I want to say thank you our show.

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Speaker 2: I knew.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I know that voice so that's I.

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Speaker 1: Got it right right, you're out there, yes, say there

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Speaker 1: he is, all right, there we go. All right, so

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Speaker 1: let's go to the Q and a real quick we'll

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Speaker 1: get if you'll say your name at the beginning and

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Speaker 1: where you live, and then we'll go there.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, Senator, I'm Mark Folker from Las Vegas. A

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Speaker 5: few weeks ago, J. Powell, Chairman of the FED, was

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Speaker 5: asked if the Federal Reserve was going to issue a

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Speaker 5: central bank digital currency, and his response was that would

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Speaker 5: have to be authorized by Congress. So my question is,

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Speaker 5: when legislation is introduced to authorize a central bank digital currency,

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Speaker 5: what will be the response in Congress?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so, Mark, thank you for that question. For

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Speaker 2: anyone who didn't hear he asked about the Federal Reserve

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Speaker 2: potentially issuing a central bank digital currency and how Congress

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Speaker 2: would respond if legislation was issued, I'll tell you I

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Speaker 2: am passionately opposed to any central bank digital currentsy and

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Speaker 2: in fact, Mark, I have introduced legislation to prohibit the

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Speaker 2: FED from ever issuing a central bank digital currency. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to bitcoin, when it comes to cryptocurrency generally,

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Speaker 2: I am very bullish on bitcoin. I'm personally an investor

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Speaker 2: in bitcoin. I have a standing by order. I buy

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Speaker 2: bitcoin every Monday on an automatic by order. That's just

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Speaker 2: my meager resources, that's what that's part of our investment.

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Speaker 2: I think bitcoin is an extraordinary number one hedge against inflation,

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Speaker 2: but number two. Look, I love bitcoin for the same

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Speaker 2: reason that collectivists and statists hate it, which is that

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Speaker 2: it cannot be controlled. Communist China has banned bitcoin. China

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Speaker 2: hates bitcoin for the same reason Elizabeth Warren and hates

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Speaker 2: bitcoin because they cannot control it. The left wants to

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Speaker 2: control your finances, and they want to monitor every monetary

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Speaker 2: exchange you have. Including the original version of the so

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Speaker 2: called Build Back Better Bill, which I called Build Back Broke,

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Speaker 2: required your bank to report to the federal government every

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Speaker 2: single transaction you made in excess of four hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: That meant every mortgage payment, that meant every car payment

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Speaker 2: with inflation, that damn near man, every time you filled

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Speaker 2: up your gas tank. I think it is insane. The

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Speaker 2: federal government has no business monitoring the financial transactions of

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Speaker 2: a free people. I will tell you also, I am

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Speaker 2: a big proponent Texas is becoming an oasis for bitcoin

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Speaker 2: and cryptocurrency mining. That people are coming to Texas to

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Speaker 2: be free. It is a benefit to have low cost,

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Speaker 2: abundant energy, and if that's one thing Texas has, we

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Speaker 2: have a lot of it. I will say I'm glad J.

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Speaker 2: Powell says that I have asked him in my office

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Speaker 2: about a central bank digital currency. What he said in

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Speaker 2: my office sounded pretty good. Now, it worries me sometimes

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Speaker 2: that when J. Powell is talking to Democrats what he

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Speaker 2: says doesn't sound pretty good. And so I remain worried

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Speaker 2: the Fed will try to do this on their own.

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Speaker 2: But I can tell you if they do, I will

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Speaker 2: lead the fight against it. And I don't think the

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Speaker 2: federal government should ever get in that business.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, next up, tell us your name.

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Speaker 4: Hi. I'm Jenny Simpson from Paradise, Sallya, Arizona. My question is, Senator,

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Speaker 4: when are you going to convince the rest of the

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Speaker 4: Senate that without border security, we don't have any US security?

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Speaker 3: Amen?

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Speaker 2: Jenny, Amen, Amen, Amen, thank you for that question. I

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Speaker 2: tell you we talked about where we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about security in the border or not, and I told

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Speaker 2: him Ben, we're in Arizona. The chances that we go

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Speaker 2: through Q and A without talking about border security or

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Speaker 2: zero Look, it is an absolute manifest disaster. Y'all know

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Speaker 2: that you deal with it every day. In Texas, we

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Speaker 2: know that we deal with it every day. I was

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Speaker 2: down at our southern border last week. I went there

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Speaker 2: Thursday night of last week. I went to the midnight

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Speaker 2: muster with the Border Patrol agents, where I said to

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Speaker 2: all of the agents, thank you, thank you, thank you

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Speaker 2: for your heroism for defending this nation, even when you

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Speaker 2: have political nincom poops who are undermining you every single day.

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Speaker 2: I then went out on midnight patrol with the border Patrol,

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Speaker 2: which I've done many, many times. Every time you go

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Speaker 2: out on midnight patrol, within minutes you encounter groups of

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Speaker 2: illegal aliens. Karine Jean Pierre said at a White House briefing,

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Speaker 2: people are not just walking across our southern border. It's

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Speaker 2: not happening. Now, there's a technical term for what she

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Speaker 2: just did there. That is called a lie. It is

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Speaker 2: not a point of view, it is not spin, it

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Speaker 2: is not advocacy. It is a brazen, flat out lie.

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Speaker 2: And I responded, actually on this podcast, I said, Kareem

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Speaker 2: John Pierre, come with me to the southern border. Let's

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Speaker 2: go out and in one hour, I promise you, we

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Speaker 2: will encounter illegal aliens, because over eight million have crossed

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Speaker 2: since Joe Biden became president. Now, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: One of the last times I was there, a reporter

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Speaker 2: asked me, said, well, aren't the policies of Democrats much

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Speaker 2: more compassionate and humane on immigration than you mean, old

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Speaker 2: Republicans who want to secure the border. And I just

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Speaker 2: started laughing, and I said, you know who doesn't believe

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Speaker 2: that anymore? The Democrats. I said, where's Joe Biden, Where's

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris? Where is a single Democrat senator? None of

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Speaker 2: them come to the border. And there's a reason for that,

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Speaker 2: because you cannot see what is happening. You cannot see

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Speaker 2: the dead bodies. Last year, eight hundred and fifty three

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Speaker 2: migrants died crossing illegally into this country. Texas farmers and

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Speaker 2: ranchers find dead bodies on their property every single day.

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Speaker 2: They do the same thing here in Arizona. You cannot

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Speaker 2: see the children who have been brutalized by human traffickers.

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Speaker 2: You can't see the women who've been sexually assaulted. You

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Speaker 2: can't see the more than one hundred thousand drug overdoses

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Speaker 2: last year, seventy percent of which came from Chinese Fetanah.

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Speaker 2: You can't see that and argue this is humane or compassionate.

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Speaker 2: It is a disaster. And we're seeing blue state governors

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Speaker 2: and mayors, people like Mayor Erica Adams in New York

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Speaker 2: City declaring an emergency and saying illegal immigration is destroying

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Speaker 2: New York City. New York City has nine million people.

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Speaker 2: They've had roughly one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 2: Adams blames that madman down in Texas, by which I

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Speaker 2: think he means Governor Greg Abbott. Frankly, I was offended.

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Speaker 2: He didn't mean me, Like, what do I have to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we can get a reporter to ask that

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Speaker 1: question if like clarify right.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with him that one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: thousand illegal immigrants threatens to destroy New York City. But

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Speaker 2: my question is, if that's true, what the hell do

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Speaker 2: you think eight million is doing for Texas at Arizona

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Speaker 2: and the rest of the southern border.

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Speaker 3: Amen.

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Speaker 2: So I can tell you periodically I bring my colleagues down.

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Speaker 2: So on Thursday I brought five senators down to the

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Speaker 2: southern border to see firsthand what is happening. The Democrats

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Speaker 2: quite simply do not care. It is the fault. This

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Speaker 2: crisis is man made. Joe Biden created it, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: created it, and every single Democrat senator created it. And

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Speaker 2: they could stop it tomorrow. So I cannot promise you

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Speaker 2: that I'm going to change their view, but I can

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Speaker 2: promise you I will continue doing everything humanly possible to

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Speaker 2: tell the American people the nightmare, the national security disaster

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Speaker 2: that they are creating. The San Diego Customs of Border

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Speaker 2: Patrol last week put out a written memo directing border

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Speaker 2: patrol to be on guard for Hamas and Hesbala terrorists

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Speaker 2: crossing our southern border.

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Speaker 1: Changed his words this week, saying he's terrified over this.

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Speaker 2: This is our last podcast. On Wednesday, we played Christopher Ray,

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Speaker 2: the director of the FBI, his words before Congress where

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Speaker 2: he said, there's a real risk of a Hamas attack

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Speaker 2: in the United States right now, and I am sorry

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Speaker 2: to say I think we are at a greater risk

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Speaker 2: today of a major terrorist attack in America than at

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Speaker 2: any point since September eleventh, And as long as Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden and the Democrats keep an open border, we are

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Speaker 2: jeopardizing the safety of every American in our country.

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Speaker 1: One final question real quick and we'll wrap it up.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Senator, my name's Matt mcill I'm from Alexander, Virginia.

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Speaker 6: We have a common mentor and Chuck Cooper.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So my question for you is about Citizens United versus FEC.

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Speaker 6: So you know, this is something that Chuck and I

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Speaker 6: worked on together going back I don't know, way back

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Speaker 6: to two thousand and two. So all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: after the Supreme Court's decision in two and ten, thirteen

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Speaker 6: years later, it's suddenly controversial again. Just wondering if you

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Speaker 6: could explain to why it's controversial and where you stand

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Speaker 6: on that.

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Speaker 3: Please, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So it is a great question. I will say that

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Speaker 2: the gentleman who just asked, he said that he had

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Speaker 2: worked with Chuck Cooper. Chuck Cooper was my very first

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Speaker 2: boss that I worked for after Clerky for Chief Justice Requist.

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Speaker 2: He's one of my closest friends and mentors. He's one

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Speaker 2: of the top Supreme Court and constitutional lawyers in the country.

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Speaker 2: The question was about Citizens United, and I have a

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Speaker 2: crazy radical view, which is we should protect free speech.

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Speaker 2: Free speech matters. You know what Citizens United was about.

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Speaker 2: So if you look at the case, Citizens United is

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Speaker 2: a nonprofit organization that made a movie that was critical

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Speaker 2: of Hillary Clinton, and the Obama administration wanted to go

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Speaker 2: after and find and punish this nonprofit organization for daring

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Speaker 2: to make a movie that was critical of a politician.

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Speaker 2: And it went all the way to the US Supreme Court,

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Speaker 2: and actually at the US Supreme Court there's an exchange

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Speaker 2: where Justice Alito asked the Obama Justice Department, under your

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Speaker 2: theory that the government can punish a movie maker for

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Speaker 2: making a movie critical of a politician, could the federal

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Speaker 2: government also ban books? Would you have the authority to

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Speaker 2: ban books you didn't like that criticized politicians? And the

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Speaker 2: Obama Justice Department said yes, yes, that's exactly what we're

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Speaker 2: arguing for the Supreme Court and Citizens United quite rightly

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Speaker 2: upheld the First Amendment and said Americans have a right

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Speaker 2: to speak and to speak about politics, and the government

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Speaker 2: can't criminalize you and me speaking about politics. Now, I've

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Speaker 2: been in the set at eleven years. I've spent the

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Speaker 2: last eleven years, I've spent all of my adult life

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Speaker 2: fighting to defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

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Speaker 2: My time in the Senate in particular, I've been passionate

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Speaker 2: defending a free speech. In the wake of Citizens United,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats introduced a constitutional amendment to repeal the free

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Speaker 2: speech protections of the First Amendment. Now you probably don't

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Speaker 2: know that because the news didn't cover it. The first

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Speaker 2: version of the constitutional amendment they introduced is an amendment

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Speaker 2: that would give Congress plenary power, which means blanket power,

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Speaker 2: total authority to regulate any expenditure of money that involves politics.

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Speaker 2: That means if a little old lady goes to home

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Speaker 2: depot and buys a poster board and a stick and

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Speaker 2: puts up aside on her front yard, that says, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is a dumbass, that the federal government could make

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Speaker 2: it a felony and lock her up and put her

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Speaker 2: in jail. That also means, by the way, the federal

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Speaker 2: government could lock up Simon and Schuster, could lock up

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Speaker 2: a movie producer, could lock up anyone who engages in

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Speaker 2: speech the federal government didn't like. It also means, by

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Speaker 2: the way, they could lock up any union organizer who

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Speaker 2: spends even a dollar trying to organize people at a union.

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Speaker 2: I led the fight against it. At the time, I

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Speaker 2: was the ranking member on the Constitution's subcommittee, the Senate

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Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee. You can go online and watch. I debated

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Speaker 2: al Franken when he was a Senator before he resigned

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Speaker 2: in disgrace. Really a sad day for me, I asked

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Speaker 2: al Franken. I said, I've got three simple questions. Should

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Speaker 2: the federal government be able to ban books, yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Should the federal government be able to ban movies, yes

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Speaker 2: or no? And should the federal government be able to

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Speaker 2: criminalize the NAACP. Because after the Democrats retreated from their

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Speaker 2: first version of the amendment, they shifted to another version.

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Speaker 2: They said, well, this is only true for corporations. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Paramount Pictures is a corporation under their amendment.

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Speaker 2: You could ban movies. Simon and Schuster's a corporation under

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Speaker 2: their amendment. You could ban books, and the NAACP is

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Speaker 2: a corporation. Under their amendment, they could criminalize membership in

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Speaker 2: the NAACP. We were in the Senate, I introduced a

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Speaker 2: substitute amendment to replace every word of their amendment with

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Speaker 2: word for word the First Amendment to the Bill of

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Speaker 2: Rights of the Constitution. Every single Democrat voted. Now we

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Speaker 2: went to the Senate floor. I led the debate on

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Speaker 2: the Senate floor. I had a poster board behind me.

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Speaker 2: So they had tried to do this previously, and there

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Speaker 2: had been lions of the left who spoke out against it,

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Speaker 2: Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy said, when Democrats tried to do

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Speaker 2: this in a previous decade, we haven't amended the Bill

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Speaker 2: of Rights in two hundred years, and now is no

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Speaker 2: time to start. I had a picture of Ted Kennedy

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Speaker 2: behind me in that quote. My dad, whom I adore,

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Speaker 2: who was an exile from Cuban, came to America seeking freedom.

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Speaker 2: My dad called me terrified. He's like, my god, you've

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Speaker 2: got Ted Kennedy behind you. It's like, what has happened

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Speaker 2: to my son? He's gone native. In the past, there

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Speaker 2: had been Democrats that believed in free speech. We voted

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Speaker 2: on it in twenty fourteen. Do you know how many

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Speaker 2: Democrats voted against repealing the free speech protections of the

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Speaker 2: First Amendment?

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Speaker 3: How many?

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Speaker 2: Zero? Wow, not a single Democrat. Every Democrat lined up

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Speaker 2: for taking away free speech. By the way, that fall

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Speaker 2: on Constitution Day, the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia invited

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Speaker 2: They invited Dick Durbin, the author of the amendment. He

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Speaker 2: said no. They invited Sheldon Whitehouse, one of the leading advocates.

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Speaker 2: He said no. They invited Al Franken, one of the

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