Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio.
Speaker 2: Podcast We're Back.
Speaker 1: I missed you guys.
Speaker 2: Guys, if I could vote someone most excited to be back,
Speaker 2: I want to sit on your laps. I missed you
Speaker 2: guys a lot. Yeah, I miss you too. Like even
Speaker 2: my body language is aggressive. You say the word and
Speaker 2: I will sit right there.
Speaker 1: I'm like in a corner. Even more award if.
Speaker 2: We took tech tooe three in a row on this
Speaker 2: scout for the whole podcast, because I just want to
Speaker 2: touch you both. I just want to see your face.
Speaker 2: Is that you want to eat space? That's a sweet way, No,
Speaker 2: I said, I said, I want to see your face.
Speaker 2: I know, which means you want space from I on
Speaker 2: the camera. But I missed you guys. It's been a
Speaker 2: minute since we've all sat here because it's like this
Speaker 2: person was sick and then the kid was sick and holiday.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that time of year, so hard.
Speaker 1: But we're all back. We're all back. We're all here.
Speaker 1: I miss you like you got kicked off. No, got
Speaker 1: kicked off?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Listeners are genuinely concerned. I've been hired. They're like,
Speaker 2: are you still mind down? I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think so. It has been a minute. Let me think
Speaker 2: about those. Yeah, I'm so so. This is this a
Speaker 2: contract renewal discussion?
Speaker 1: New Year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, new Year? I just miss you. You had a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was so fun to be able to do a
Speaker 2: movie top of the year. Oh good, like good for
Speaker 2: your heart. It was good. It was really good. Good.
Speaker 2: Catherine came along for how many nights were you there?
Speaker 1: Three? Three year?
Speaker 2: This is a total sidebar, but Catherine will understand this.
Speaker 2: We played a lot of games for those three nights.
Speaker 2: I introduced Monopoly Go Ordeal to Alan last night.
Speaker 1: What is this game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I almost took a picture and was like, Catherine,
Speaker 2: come come over.
Speaker 1: I'm proud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're played Monopoly, deal I haven't. But I
Speaker 2: love Monopoly. It's even better. Okay, it's just harder, Yeah
Speaker 2: it's quicker. Yeah. It just made me think of us
Speaker 2: in our time in Enid, Oklahoma. Sweet people. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they were great, very sweet people. But you guys, I
Speaker 2: got tell you what I fell in love with Oklahoma City?
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 3: I love Oklahoma City. If I could do a movie
Speaker 3: there again, I would love it because there's so much
Speaker 3: to do there. For not only kids, like their zoo
Speaker 3: and their science museum fabulous of the fast zoos and
Speaker 3: science museums I've ever been to. So good, so good,
Speaker 3: and the food amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh good.
Speaker 2: I hope you like Okross, I didn't didn't have any.
Speaker 1: Well, don't I do that there?
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a while. Well, I used to.
Speaker 2: That used to be part of my territory when I
Speaker 2: was on the label, so I was there a lot,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't going to zoos. I just was managing them.
Speaker 2: It's time to be alive. But yeah, like, I feel
Speaker 2: bad that you didn't get to witness that part of Oklahoma's.
Speaker 1: Okay because I feel like we knew what this time
Speaker 1: was going to be, and it was literally sitting in
Speaker 1: a hotel room and like playing games, and that's what
Speaker 1: I was prepared for. That's what I wanted. I loved it.
Speaker 2: The funniest part that was we were on set and
Speaker 2: I was telling they were asking me kind of what's next,
Speaker 2: and I said, oh, I've got a movie in San
Speaker 2: Antonio for a couple of weeks and then we're filming
Speaker 2: in the Bahamas Ish area.
Speaker 1: Goes, I'm sorry, what, Yeah, when you brought me to
Speaker 1: Enid and you're going to the Bama Oky.
Speaker 2: And O no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I got a promise out of this one for sticking through.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, apologies, so you
Speaker 2: can come with me on that that part of the.
Speaker 1: It wasn't And let me just say it wasn't that
Speaker 1: it was Enid. I love small town not having a
Speaker 1: lot to do. I'm great with that. It was freezing
Speaker 1: that That's really what it was about. I was not prepared.
Speaker 1: I had to go to the Walmart and buy gloves
Speaker 1: and like all the things because I just didn't realize
Speaker 1: with me so cold.
Speaker 2: You looked really cute though my face timed in. You
Speaker 2: looked like a little you looked like you were a
Speaker 2: character in the movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I stood out there. I did get
Speaker 1: in the heating car a lot, but I stood out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. I mean it was it was freezing
Speaker 2: found until like one two in the morning or something,
Speaker 2: and she's out there just freezing her little buns off.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, you can go in the heating car.
Speaker 1: If they can do it and save these lines and
Speaker 1: less clothes than me, I can stand out here.
Speaker 2: At a girl. But you are so like, what a friend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Michigan girls will dig deep if we have to. But
Speaker 2: that I mean, that's all. That's cool. Okay. I left
Speaker 2: when I was eighteen. My blood has since that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a she loves the sun.
Speaker 2: I love, I love, And I started to get the
Speaker 2: sads this week. Why this is the cold? Oh oh
Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's it's starting to sink in. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's sunny here. It's just really coold. Like you can't
Speaker 2: go for a while. Y'all know, it's snowed at thirty A. Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 2: Houston Airport shut down.
Speaker 1: There's snow on the beach.
Speaker 2: Guys, that's so cool though. I think I would love
Speaker 2: to see that. I think that's really cool. You can
Speaker 2: go to northern Michigan anytime, right, But like.
Speaker 1: I'm from here and I'm going to Florida, and I
Speaker 1: don't usually see the snow on the beach, so that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean I have obviously, but I think that's just
Speaker 1: I think it's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think snow's charming. It's over for me.
Speaker 2: I like it for about a month. Yeah, I like
Speaker 2: it for about one hour. For my kids, I like
Speaker 2: it for kids love it for twenty minutes. You do
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of getting everything on and then you hands side.
Speaker 2: Where's Ma'm yeah, your friends that invited us to veil
Speaker 2: and I ooh, that's amazing, I said, And they're like, no,
Speaker 2: if you have the right stuff, you stay warm. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, it doesn't I if you mad, I feel trapped.
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: So where have you been? What have you been doing? Like,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've been.
Speaker 1: You did have a birthday.
Speaker 2: Forty three birthday, h which, by the way, you just disappear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because y'all know this really cute thing. You came
Speaker 3: to my house for my birthday, and so I'm you know, hey,
Speaker 3: let's go surprise Yeah, Kristin at her house, do the
Speaker 3: whole thing. Because it was so sweet what y'all did
Speaker 3: for me. I wanted to do the same back. And uh,
Speaker 3: I'm really glad I texted you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was ready to go.
Speaker 2: She's she's here. I'm like, wait, what cats on? Fine?
Speaker 2: My friends. Yeah, we just did a little quick trip
Speaker 2: to Tampa. I took the kids to Universal. It was
Speaker 2: like sweet, okay, yeah, we feeling about forty three. I
Speaker 2: feel great, great. Oh, I could possibly be my favorite
Speaker 2: year so far. Really, Oh, I'm I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: in a mode. Was it? What is it? I don't
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. I really don't know. There's
Speaker 2: a certainty. What did I say the other day and
Speaker 2: my other girlfriend turned forty three four days after me,
Speaker 2: and I said, there's just like this, like an empowerment
Speaker 2: and peace. So great. Yeah, I just feel really happy happy.
Speaker 2: You're scared to say, I'm scared to say, the bottom
Speaker 2: falling out still in there? Yeah, I just feel great.
Speaker 2: So had a birthday, my little podcast that could that
Speaker 2: wouldn't always will be had a birthday. So it's five amazing.
Speaker 2: That's it, guys. Really, I think that's that. Did I
Speaker 2: miss anything? I didn't film a movie, so I feel
Speaker 2: a little lack luster. But I just had a birthday.
Speaker 2: That's it, you guys. Can I just tell you how
Speaker 2: cool Martin Sheen is though? Oh okay, the most loveliest
Speaker 2: human you've ever met. He's so great, he's so funny.
Speaker 2: There's this scene where I'm supposed to be just bawling,
Speaker 2: right and Martin's in the scene, and I can't really
Speaker 2: like give you know, why I'm so upset or whatever.
Speaker 2: But and he's comes over in the scene and just
Speaker 2: places his hand on my on my shoulder. And by
Speaker 2: the way, two minutes prior, we're like cracking up. He's
Speaker 2: just he's really funny. He likes to make funny jokes.
Speaker 2: And how do you do this? What do you mean?
Speaker 2: How do you cry? Do you think of something sad? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You do? What do you think of? I think I'm
Speaker 2: just fascinating herself. I don't know. Sometimes kabits our manager hat.
Speaker 2: Pretend Cat's a friend, right now?
Speaker 1: What do you think of?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is like you, I'm fascinated because you can
Speaker 2: be cracking like I can't. Well, I don't know I can.
Speaker 3: If you if you think of any trauma that you've
Speaker 3: gone through, shit, you just think about those painful memories.
Speaker 3: There's there's a few that and each movie is a
Speaker 3: different type of pain, right, So like this one, there
Speaker 3: was something that I connected to that I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: where am I going to find the emotion through this?
Speaker 3: And in those moments to cry? And that was you
Speaker 3: find it from whether either's childhood or past traumas of.
Speaker 2: X Y and Z. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to say exactly what it was,
Speaker 3: but the uh in that scene, it was tough because
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this was my first one that I
Speaker 3: was filming with them, and so I'm like, this is
Speaker 3: gonna be hard to get because you have two seconds
Speaker 3: for them to go okay and action, you know, as
Speaker 3: we're all just like laughing. But this one just this
Speaker 3: was a sad scene. So it was easy to be
Speaker 3: able to get because we were in a hospital scene,
Speaker 3: so super easy to like get there. Maybe maybe I
Speaker 3: had this like moment where it's like I love Martin Sheen,
Speaker 3: like I love him. American President was one of my
Speaker 3: favorite movies ever, and it was kind of that moment
Speaker 3: of like gratefulness too, So it was almost like a
Speaker 3: happy cry right in like a sad moment because it's
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 1: Is so cool, like a pinch me moment, literally.
Speaker 2: Acting with someone that I like love so much, grew
Speaker 2: up with this movies, you know, and like I'm in
Speaker 2: the scene with him, so I'm like, you better knock
Speaker 2: it out of the apartment. It was almost like I'm
Speaker 2: like he's watching you, you know, like he's he who
Speaker 2: he is nervous, like a nervous happy drama all in
Speaker 2: one like really sad scene. And so and I had
Speaker 2: this scene where I have to like he has to
Speaker 2: give me the nod like this person is gone, and
Speaker 2: so I give that like look, like a no look,
Speaker 2: and then just this tears start to just like stream.
Speaker 2: He comes and like puts his hand like on my arm,
Speaker 2: and then it was just like a sob you know.
Speaker 2: And then but it but like in even the scene,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously it was like a when we were rehearsing,
Speaker 2: but you know, he's like cracking jokes and so then
Speaker 2: it's like how much do you want for that for
Speaker 2: the death? You know, like you can even mo me
Speaker 2: for the death or and then two seconds later its
Speaker 2: like and actually, so it's like he's like funny, but
Speaker 2: it was awesome love that. I felt a little starstruck
Speaker 2: on your behalf when I saw him with you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well he hugs you, he loves you, he's sweet, sweet,
Speaker 2: he like cares. Yeah, I can tell, good dude. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so that was really fun. I don't know when's the mahamas,
Speaker 2: you guys, I'm going there this week? What what you
Speaker 2: literally just January. It's the only time I get to see.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed it's the same every January because it's
Speaker 2: the only domaseum? And where are you going? The Bahamas
Speaker 2: were staying this time for fun? Yeah? Two days, two
Speaker 2: brave days away from the kids, three nights dot. Come
Speaker 2: are you proud of me? Here? What's the look? I
Speaker 2: can two days? Yeah too, full days? I know, I
Speaker 2: know it's not proud. Okay, God, she's like, that was shame.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know the difference in her look.
Speaker 2: I gotta get back on track here, shame I okay,
Speaker 2: you're a great actress. I thought. Your brother is like,
Speaker 2: I just do hang on, I'm getting my trauma. Cry
Speaker 2: girl yourself. One more day, No, three nights. So it's
Speaker 2: three nights, two nights or three three nights? Two full days,
Speaker 2: like I'll have two full days, but three nights okay,
Speaker 2: three nights. Okay, that's great. The night's all that matter,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Three days is good? Three good? Okay?
Speaker 2: I thought even like, well, just getting there takes forever
Speaker 2: from here. Yeah, that's why it's like if you just
Speaker 2: do too. Yeah, what are you filming? I'm excited? Well,
Speaker 2: I feel like you go to these like locations all
Speaker 2: the time that are like kind of not wh people.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, kindly, Oklahoma City, we love you. So
Speaker 2: I just love that you might be in the Hamas.
Speaker 2: It gives me outer Banks vibes. And that's why I
Speaker 2: was checking in. It's a thriller. Yes, it's not all
Speaker 2: I can say. Oh yeah, in the Bahamas, mostly in
Speaker 2: San Antonio. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay, okay, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fun though. Really excited about this one. But there
Speaker 2: are some things that happened while we were gone, devastating things,
Speaker 2: a lot of devastating things which we've talked about, and
Speaker 2: we're going to move on to the No, it's still devastating.
Speaker 2: Are you going to talk about the Jessicas? I was
Speaker 2: going to ask des check on the Simpson one, devastated.
Speaker 2: We did talk about it months ago. I texted you
Speaker 2: and I said, how are you feeling about this? She's like, Cramer,
Speaker 2: it's just us weekly. I go, oh, why there's smoke,
Speaker 2: there might be fires. She goes, oh coming from me,
Speaker 2: I like loud, yeah, every once in a while, it's
Speaker 2: so great. But yeah, I'm sad. I'm sad when anybody
Speaker 2: gets divorced and I'm more sad when it's public. I
Speaker 2: think because I've done this with you, I could actually
Speaker 2: maybe I could cry about things a lot easier than I.
Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson the cry. No, I just hate that it
Speaker 2: has to be so public. I hate it for you guys,
Speaker 2: because I know that is what you sign up for
Speaker 2: in air quotes and what people always say. But it
Speaker 2: just doesn't matter. No one gets married to get divorced.
Speaker 2: I stand by that. So I just think it sucks
Speaker 2: because there's kids involved and they have to read it
Speaker 2: and know it, and even if they're bigger, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's all. I just hate it. Yeah, it makes me sad.
Speaker 2: It does make me sad. A hard time to be
Speaker 2: a Jessica. Well, there's an album which we had her
Speaker 2: husband on the show, but they were saying January is
Speaker 2: a divorce month, and I had to think back to
Speaker 2: my divorces and I'm like, I chose the wrong month.
Speaker 2: That was my problem all along. I don't think I
Speaker 2: ever got divorced into January. I never heard a divorce month,
Speaker 2: and I did read that. I enjoyed that article. The
Speaker 2: writer of that article was actually awesome. What was she
Speaker 2: saying about it. It's just really funny. But she was like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's okay because there's like a new season
Speaker 2: of Severns, so you're gonna be okay. There's plenty of
Speaker 2: TV to keep you company. Yeah, I didn't know it
Speaker 2: was a divorce month, but I guess it's people get
Speaker 2: through the holidays and kind of make the pack or
Speaker 2: the holiday send them over the edge. Either way.
Speaker 1: The holidays can be very depressing too, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it can be a rough time.
Speaker 2: Well, I think maybe it's it's also like that fresh
Speaker 2: started the new year kind of too. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: that she just want to just yep, break it off then.
Speaker 2: But it's it's to your point, it's it always anytime
Speaker 2: I ever see a headline of someone breaking up, may
Speaker 2: it's just like no, even whether I'm connected to it
Speaker 2: or not, like or I like them or not, it's
Speaker 2: just it's sad to see people not together and happy.
Speaker 2: Having said that, I want people to be happy, So
Speaker 2: if the happiest route is to not be with the person,
Speaker 2: then I'm happy for them. It just it sucks, right
Speaker 2: get because you know, like you said, in marriage is
Speaker 2: no one gets married to get divorced, and so it's
Speaker 2: sad when you see things end, but I'm also I
Speaker 2: get really hopeful and excited for people because it's a
Speaker 2: new chapter that they can then find happiness elsewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not like shameful sad. I just get sad. I
Speaker 2: just hate. I just I put myself in those days
Speaker 2: of like they're going to have to move someone out
Speaker 2: and there's going to have to be the mornings where
Speaker 2: they wake up and it's quiet, or there's going to
Speaker 2: be the you know, the weekend where they're alone. And
Speaker 2: I that's the part that I get sad for and
Speaker 2: then hopeful for all the things they'll get. I just
Speaker 2: it makes me sad. I'm way less emotionally distraught over
Speaker 2: this than I was the Nick and Jess split. So
Speaker 2: I think that's something about my maturity, age and or
Speaker 2: emotional investment in her as a human.
Speaker 1: But she'll be good.
Speaker 3: It's hard to because people always say, oh, there was
Speaker 3: warning signs, like the uh, you know, all the clues
Speaker 3: that they were headed for a split, And again, I
Speaker 3: think it's anyone can look at someone's a relationship and
Speaker 3: go like okay, for you, Nick, it's like, Okay, the
Speaker 3: signs were there. You guys were sleeping in separate bed
Speaker 3: or not, I don't know whatever, we weren't, but I
Speaker 3: together watching the shows and separate rooms.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean. But how much
Speaker 2: did you want to share about that?
Speaker 1: We were good? I would say if we were, we
Speaker 1: were not sleeping in different beds. But yes, fair, keep going.
Speaker 2: But like we can all say there was you know,
Speaker 2: but again that's just marriage is having their ups and downs, right,
Speaker 2: just what it is. And so it's just I did
Speaker 2: read somewhere a very like weird sentence about what Jess
Speaker 2: had said about the divorce and so that which one
Speaker 2: Simpson or Elba? Sorry, yeah, just speak about Jess Simpson
Speaker 2: like I was made of honor or something. Why am
Speaker 2: I so weird about her? It was just like this
Speaker 2: very like ambiguous comment about there was an event that
Speaker 2: happened that pushed them to this or something, And I'm like, what,
Speaker 2: like it's just maybe don't say anything at all. That's
Speaker 2: what Kyle Richards did, little baby almost or something. You know,
Speaker 2: it could just be no comment at this time. Maybe
Speaker 2: she wanted to chose get out in front of it,
Speaker 2: or like how do I say this?
Speaker 3: Like you want them to know maybe something did happen
Speaker 3: right as opposed to like it wasn't just a yeah,
Speaker 3: we couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people want people to know that there was
Speaker 1: something I wanted, and some people.
Speaker 2: I'll burn it to the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people don't want that out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think that it depends. But that is the
Speaker 1: clue right there that they want it out there.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's a little baby. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: the tone if.
Speaker 1: It does, for sure.
Speaker 2: But all in all though, it's sad. Having said that,
Speaker 2: I have someone that I was just chatting with. She
Speaker 2: just broke up with her fiance and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: coming in and she's just like bawling and we're you know,
Speaker 2: talking about it, and it's like it's just so I
Speaker 2: hate when people's heart breaks. And then after that, it's
Speaker 2: like then I but then I'm also so excited, Like
Speaker 2: I said, like, I'm so excited for people's next chapters.
Speaker 2: I think it's like at a bookstore near you running out.
Speaker 3: I just because it's you know, it wasn't the person
Speaker 3: and we don't understand why, and the puzzle pieces and
Speaker 3: all that, but we will you'll know eventually, you know
Speaker 3: why it didn't work, and.
Speaker 2: The next thing you know, you'll be in Scotland with
Speaker 2: a tear in your eye. Exactly. Amazing. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 2: that one. I'm wondering what other I'm letting you lead
Speaker 2: the headline.
Speaker 3: Charging, headline charge you all know that is a disaster zone.
Speaker 3: Jeez on his side bar to all of this.
Speaker 2: The text message we got in our wind down about
Speaker 2: a labia. Yeah, we're going to talk about it or not,
Speaker 2: but she called it out. Let's talk about Brookshield's got
Speaker 2: a bonus labia rejuvenation without her consent. Why can't every
Speaker 2: Why can't everybody just leave my vagina alone? She has
Speaker 2: a new book out though it's a new book, Brookshield
Speaker 2: is not allowed to get old. Ah, if someone gave
Speaker 2: you a labia without your permission, would you sue for
Speaker 2: mal practice? One thousand percent.
Speaker 1: If anyone did anything without my permission when I am
Speaker 1: under yeah, one hundred and I'm not someone to sue
Speaker 1: anything anyone for anything. Really, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we have a friend that we won't name obviously,
Speaker 2: but like she had a procedure done and they were like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we just did a little light bow too.
Speaker 1: Don't touch there's no way that's okay.
Speaker 2: Also, since when are doctors tossing in freebies? This is weird.
Speaker 3: So she actually went in for the labia reconstruction. The
Speaker 3: vagina rejuvenation is the extra procedure. Yeah, because the labia
Speaker 3: was an issue for years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they then he gave her like this
Speaker 2: almost winky slimy like I guess what you know? While
Speaker 2: I was in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was gross. I didn't like anything about that story.
Speaker 2: Who does that?
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, it's just like I hate it for her,
Speaker 1: and it's like she got like she never talked to us,
Speaker 1: she never it's violating, and then she's somebody so it's
Speaker 1: like you also have a doctor that just did Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's all gross. I don't
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: Would you talk about it if that happened to you?
Speaker 1: No, probably not. I don't love of course Kat woll
Speaker 1: Kat I am, and I'm not like there's certain things.
Speaker 1: It feels like it really was kind of traumatizing for her. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's traumatized. I do kind of it is, absolutely
Speaker 1: and it probably would. I mean again, it's her choice
Speaker 1: if she talks about it.
Speaker 2: I hate it for her because it's like it's like
Speaker 2: one of us talking about it. Yeah, it's her choice.
Speaker 1: I could have done without knowing that information, Like you know,
Speaker 1: like sometimes I go back and forth sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: do we really need to know all of this about
Speaker 1: all of art? Like we know so much about celebrities now,
Speaker 1: like do we need to know this much about them?
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, it's her choice. She decided
Speaker 1: to tell it so well.
Speaker 2: I also kind of do like it in the way
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I wouldn't have thought to have a
Speaker 2: conversation with my doctor about anything extra heat or she
Speaker 2: might throw in well because that's not normal, right, But
Speaker 2: like because of this, but I.
Speaker 3: Feel like it's a little bit more normal than we
Speaker 3: might think, like just what happened with our friend too,
Speaker 3: things that like.
Speaker 2: Maybe a bit of an a to me. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: appreciate coming from Brooks Labia who knew Serve from the bottom.
Speaker 1: Now we're here, which is like, are we really talking
Speaker 1: about a Labia today?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: But I mean I feel for her though, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: Basically, when you go into a procedure and make sure
Speaker 2: that's the only thing that's happening, such a helpless feeling.
Speaker 2: You're asleep, right, exactly weird? Yeah, I don't like No,
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my good all No, what else is going
Speaker 1: on in the headlines? There's a lot right now.
Speaker 2: There is. I meant to ask you another question about
Speaker 2: the movie. Okay, can we go back to it real quick? Sure,
Speaker 2: I forgot we got distracted, Okay, trauma. Was there any
Speaker 2: like lovey scenes? Can we know that? Lovey scenes?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Huh? Between me and my husband in the movie the
Speaker 2: movie Husband, Yes, movie Husband? There was zero? Okay, I
Speaker 2: wonder I always like to get an allan temperature check.
Speaker 2: Not even a kiss scene? Oh yeah, I will you
Speaker 2: like kissed my forehead? That was about intimate holdly handing scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it wasn't. It was a it's a Christian film.
Speaker 2: Sweet uh huh. It was very sweet. But yeah, he's
Speaker 2: he was lovely.
Speaker 3: He was great, great, really really nice guy, great actor,
Speaker 3: and it's so nice, you know guys. It was difficult though,
Speaker 3: because I was playing like a mom, even.
Speaker 2: Though I am a mom. It was hard because she
Speaker 2: was I know, Catherine always makes fun of me, but
Speaker 2: she was my daughter's older in this, and so I
Speaker 2: had that moment like, oh my gosh, I'm aging to
Speaker 2: like just the mom characters. Now.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not old enough to have a child,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I fifteen year old writer. But
Speaker 1: I get it that that would seem until you're I mean,
Speaker 1: I still don't feel like I'm old enough to have
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old. So I get it, like we
Speaker 1: don't feel like we're that old, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I think right now? Yeah, I just it's like
Speaker 2: out of body to tell you it's forty three. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And a lot of the things that I audition for,
Speaker 2: so like today I have an audition for something that's
Speaker 2: like mid forties, but I don't I still can't really
Speaker 2: like play that age yet. And so it's just it's
Speaker 2: just it's just weird.
Speaker 3: I am trying to figure that, like, that's just it's
Speaker 3: just weirder for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder sticking to the more like the mid
Speaker 2: thirty rules. I wondered because I watch a lot of
Speaker 2: Jane Fonda, what that somehow does not surprise me? It does?
Speaker 2: I love her so much, and I just always wonder, like,
Speaker 2: as a career, you know, actor, how it feels to
Speaker 2: age up, like, you know, as they age you up,
Speaker 2: and you're like, suddenly you're the grandmother. Like some of
Speaker 2: these women playing these grandmother roles. I'm like, you know
Speaker 2: they're playing them young even, right, And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that probably doesn't feel too good for the like yeah,
Speaker 2: esteem or something. Yeah, it's interesting. I have a question answer.
Speaker 1: So, you posted while you were at the movie that
Speaker 1: you had given Jolie a phone. Uh huh while you
Speaker 1: were gone?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you get any positive or negative feedback for posting that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: What's interesting is I got so many women reaching out
Speaker 3: to me, thank you for actually bringing that up. I have.
Speaker 2: I had a lot of women reaching out to me
Speaker 2: because I'd mentioned that I don't let them have their
Speaker 2: iPads anymore. And that was the number one DM was
Speaker 2: how did you do it?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Not why did she have a phone?
Speaker 3: Like, because I explained in there that I gave her
Speaker 3: the phone because she's not allowed they don't have the
Speaker 3: iPad anymore. And that was I mean, And it wasn't
Speaker 3: like why, it was how.
Speaker 2: Did you do it? Oh? Cool? And I loved that.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, I just wondered when you saw it?
Speaker 1: When you posted it. I wondered if you got any
Speaker 1: hate for that.
Speaker 3: I feel like I didn't, just because I was able
Speaker 3: to say and I'm I'm like, it's only for the
Speaker 3: two weeks. I'm getting it back when she comes back.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had to justify yourself that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I found that interesting. Yeah, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, but I also, to an extent, wish
Speaker 1: you didn't feel like you have to have to justify
Speaker 1: yourself so much. But maybe it kept you from getting hate.
Speaker 1: And there you go.
Speaker 3: I agree that I don't like the justification part of things.
Speaker 3: Having said that, for me, I I don't want people
Speaker 3: I guess I don't want people to think that she's
Speaker 3: allowed to phone that young, sure, because I don't personally
Speaker 3: believe in it at this age.
Speaker 2: Sure, so, yeah, cares your world less noisy if you
Speaker 2: can just get out in front of it maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit and just say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, I mean I agree, I just yeah,
Speaker 1: there is that part of me that's like, man, I
Speaker 1: wish you didn't have to, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Brookshields Laviya right exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we just Yeah, how did she do
Speaker 1: within the phone being taken away or like being done.
Speaker 3: With totally fine, right, Yeah, there was zero issues with it,
Speaker 3: and yeah it was it was good and I and
Speaker 3: I had to obviously talk to Mike about it because.
Speaker 2: You know, it's.
Speaker 3: A technical you know, it's a phone and all the things.
Speaker 3: And I said that, you know, here what I would
Speaker 3: love the rules to be, and followed pretty well. I
Speaker 3: mean it was you know, the reason we got rid
Speaker 3: of the iPads in the very beginning was because the
Speaker 3: overuse on his part of it.
Speaker 1: And sorry not to pause, we're just real fast. So
Speaker 1: iPads are gone in both homes, yes, got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh And so once we had basically a come to
Speaker 3: Jesus about it about how it was overused, and then
Speaker 3: when they came here, it was the I'm board and
Speaker 3: I want you know, it's like the all the whole things.
Speaker 3: We just said, okay, we agreed no more iPads, but
Speaker 3: with the phone stuff. You know, I was like, this
Speaker 3: is kind of why, because I don't want to be
Speaker 3: blowing up your phone. I don't want to be texting
Speaker 3: him all the time. Can I talk to the kids.
Speaker 3: It's like that whole conversation. So, you know, it was
Speaker 3: just mornings text me before you go to bed and
Speaker 3: then when you get home from school. Yeah, and it
Speaker 3: worked great, great, so I think we'll implement that again.
Speaker 3: But there was no phone, like, no games on the phone,
Speaker 3: no anything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2: It really did work out great.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 3: And then personally with the iPad thing, like just for
Speaker 3: us because I've gotten our friend Sarah Boyd reached out
Speaker 3: and she was like, how did you get rid of
Speaker 3: the iPad? And it's like it was a struggle in
Speaker 3: the very beginning. And I will say this. They have
Speaker 3: it for airplanes. They had it during Scotland when they
Speaker 3: were sick, like that was our way to And I
Speaker 3: understand why.
Speaker 2: It's it's the best. You know why why my parents
Speaker 2: use it? I totally get it.
Speaker 3: There's so many times I want to be like, just
Speaker 3: watch your iPad, you know. I kind of now it's
Speaker 3: probably I guess that we limit a lot of TV too.
Speaker 3: But for Jolie, iPads is like the worst thing she
Speaker 3: could possibly have. She's so addicted. And I saw how
Speaker 3: addicted she became to it and just how often they
Speaker 3: would ask. I mean, it drove me nuts. And then
Speaker 3: with Jays too, it was he didn't really care, but
Speaker 3: then he I could just see the like the addiction
Speaker 3: forming in him, and there's so much more creative now.
Speaker 3: They don't ask for it, they don't say they're bored anymore.
Speaker 3: Like it's been fantastic great. Yeah, we so good.
Speaker 2: Legend has the same addictive part of it, and I
Speaker 2: actually we took it away a long time ago because
Speaker 2: I don't like how he acts. I do not like
Speaker 2: the version of my son that has been on an
Speaker 2: iPad and we do like we've had like reading eggs
Speaker 2: and we do that on there sometimes, or like I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think. He loves garage band, so I do
Speaker 2: let him have it for garage band because he's likes
Speaker 2: to create the beats, but I do not. I do
Speaker 2: not appreciate how he acts, like it really affects his
Speaker 2: behavior a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see. I can agree with you on that.
Speaker 3: When Jace was playing that Roblocks game, the kind of
Speaker 3: like anger and just more aggression I saw from that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't like him tuned out from the world.
Speaker 2: And I have like a good software system on ours
Speaker 2: that lets me like govern everything. But but even then
Speaker 2: I just was like I just didn't and it had
Speaker 2: a timer go off. I mean they were only allowed
Speaker 2: like thirty minutes or something when they would use it,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't every day, but I still even he'd
Speaker 2: be like, can you can you give me more time?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, actually, this is over. Yeah, You're
Speaker 2: just a better dude without it, I think. But I
Speaker 2: did integrate it into their world a little. So they're
Speaker 2: savvy enough to know because I you know, that is
Speaker 2: their world unfortunately. Yeah, so I didn't want them to
Speaker 2: like be hindered in the technology piece. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: you guys remember when the old computer fired up when
Speaker 2: we played organ Trail. Yeah, I mean it's still time
Speaker 2: to walk.
Speaker 3: I mean I let Jolie have the monitor phone, the
Speaker 3: phone that she used, you know to make her fake
Speaker 3: little YouTube videos like I'll, you know, if they want
Speaker 3: to be creative like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that. It's just the games really
Speaker 2: bug me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just because of Mic and the games, right,
Speaker 3: I realized, and I just see like where they go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like we did an old school Tetris
Speaker 2: for Christmas, like just the handhod, just the Tetris, and
Speaker 2: that was awesome. But I'm with you I don't like
Speaker 2: it either, and I also just can't like the due
Speaker 2: diligence of that out each game exhausted me too, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm to talk about the chat room stuff.
Speaker 2: I was like, we're out. Yeah, we never did any
Speaker 2: even thing that did that, and I got annoyed because
Speaker 2: then the advertisements would come in and it's like a
Speaker 2: random other game and I just I don't know, it's all.
Speaker 1: It's a lot.
Speaker 3: But again, no judgment for parents that use it. It's
Speaker 3: like I understand how great of a tool it is,
Speaker 3: and it's can be great for people too, other kids,
Speaker 3: and so it's just not.
Speaker 2: Didn't work for us. But also it's kind of like
Speaker 2: mentioning things like this is sometimes people shove to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can do it. That was probably the most interaction
Speaker 2: I got when I posted about it, most interaction I've
Speaker 2: had with people, because people were like, wait, like I
Speaker 2: think they just need the it feels unattainable or overwhelming
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 3: I think I created the problem with Jolie though, because
Speaker 3: when she stopped napping her quiet time, we'd give her
Speaker 3: iPad for two hours in her room, So that became
Speaker 3: and I didn't do that with Jays and I was
Speaker 3: and he didn't, so maybe so maybe I created that.
Speaker 3: But at this kind of stuff like he was, it
Speaker 3: was my only one and it was just easy, like
Speaker 3: take your iPad so I can do some you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what be honest to get d Yeah.
Speaker 1: All kids are just so different one on things. You know,
Speaker 1: people zone in, kids zone in differently, you know, just
Speaker 1: everybody's different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like love can watch a night pat or like
Speaker 2: do a game on there and be fine. And I'm
Speaker 2: like when it was times up, she was like cool, Yeah,
Speaker 2: legend typical LEGI negotiating, Yeah, every second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my kids will still ask for like
Speaker 1: more time on their phones. Yes, my teenagers have time
Speaker 1: on their phone. So I'm like, should have used it wisely.
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Speaker 1: So, speaking of the movie, met the sweetest man on
Speaker 1: the set of Your movie. His name was Sam is
Speaker 1: that correct? His name is Sam Sat And had the
Speaker 1: most lovely conversation with this man about family and all
Speaker 1: the things, and so that just made me think because
Speaker 1: he is the father of Justin Baldoni. So speaking of headlines,
Speaker 1: and it just really had me thinking about everything that's
Speaker 1: been in the headlines with him and Blake. But how
Speaker 1: was that with the movie with him, did you I.
Speaker 2: Feel like it was one of those things. Well, first
Speaker 2: of all, it's like it's just so not my place
Speaker 2: to be asking about it, you know, and I can't,
Speaker 2: you know, there's just there's so many headlines and so
Speaker 2: much stuff. But so it's just it's just it's not
Speaker 2: my It wouldn't have been my place to even mention
Speaker 2: it or say anything. But I got to know him
Speaker 2: on a personal level, and he's fantastic, He's so sweet,
Speaker 2: loves his family so much. He's an awesome, awesome producer
Speaker 2: and guy. So he didn't produce that movie, but he
Speaker 2: was there supporting our writer, and.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I very much enjoyed him. But
Speaker 1: so let's talk about that headline.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna step out of that.
Speaker 1: I just need some clarification on everything that's happening.
Speaker 2: I understand zero.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I watched the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same, and I liked the movie. Loved the movie.
Speaker 2: I thought they did agree too.
Speaker 1: And then we had talked about, you know a while back,
Speaker 1: about like the interviews and stuff where she was kind
Speaker 1: of being like rude to the lady about the pregnant whatever.
Speaker 1: I didn't even fully understand what that had to do
Speaker 1: with everything, and now it's just erupted into this hole
Speaker 1: four hundred million back and forth. Right, So from there
Speaker 1: that happens. Is he accusing her of being or we
Speaker 1: just as a culture of finding these interviews at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, so right after the movie, right,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to We have the movie, it
Speaker 1: comes out, then we're all talking about, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: how she's rude in all these interviews. Did that have
Speaker 1: anything to do with him? Or was that us just
Speaker 1: finding it after the movie? Does anyone know the answer
Speaker 1: to that?
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: That has always kind of confused me, Like why did
Speaker 1: we all start talking about her being rude in these
Speaker 1: interviews right after? Okay? Right, so that kind of that
Speaker 1: part kind of lost me.
Speaker 2: So then.
Speaker 1: Next is she's suing him. Yes, she sued him first
Speaker 1: as due him first for sexual harassment, I believe, correct,
Speaker 1: So sexual harassment. I'm like trying to make sure I
Speaker 1: get all the facts to this whole thing. So that's
Speaker 1: confused me. So she sued him, but now he has countersued.
Speaker 2: Her, correct for that's four hundred million.
Speaker 1: Is she suing him for four hunder millionaire?
Speaker 2: He sued her and she's suing both of them? Is
Speaker 2: that correct? Ryan and Blake? I believe so, And if
Speaker 2: you hear the pauses, it's because we are looking and
Speaker 2: producer chat to clarify for us.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot, it's but it's all over the headlines. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a little overwhelming at the moment.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of whose side are you on?
Speaker 1: But I don't even feel like people are asking, you know,
Speaker 1: like taking polls, who side are you on? Who's this
Speaker 1: Blake Live versus? And I'm like, I don't even think
Speaker 1: I fully understand the entirety of this whole situation.
Speaker 2: I do not understand the entirety. So something she's suing
Speaker 2: him for something that happened during the movie, Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Yes? I believe the sexual harassment things during the movie
Speaker 1: and things that were and he was a director on
Speaker 1: the head I believe, so, Okay, But I think things
Speaker 1: that were said, some things about intimacy coordinators, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I know that she wait, according to.
Speaker 2: Him, yeah, intimacy coordinator yeah, oh yeah, wait.
Speaker 1: Wait And according to his yeah, according to his screen,
Speaker 1: like his receipts. She didn't want to meet with the
Speaker 1: intimacy coordinator, so that place.
Speaker 2: Coordinator just go through like the scene, any scene that
Speaker 2: is like sexual ish and tell me what that is.
Speaker 2: Like anytime you have something that's like an intimate scene,
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, you would have an intimacy coordinator be
Speaker 2: like are you comfortable with this? Like let's like we
Speaker 2: walk through it and be like okay, like you know,
Speaker 2: does this feel okay to you? So that both people
Speaker 2: feel comfortable with the scene that's about to take place
Speaker 2: and they can have someone to kind of advocate for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, brilliant, Well lovely has that always been.
Speaker 2: It's something that you can absolutely one thousand percent ask
Speaker 2: for and most professional movies have them on great Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I like that. I've had them on a couple like
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fascinating. I mean I don't know. That's what
Speaker 1: we've heard a lot of exactly trying to piece together
Speaker 1: all the information of this and unless actually factually absolutely
Speaker 1: and what is actually happening, what the facts are the
Speaker 1: intimacy coordinator Where that plays in where it is important
Speaker 1: that she turned it down versus what is being said.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I don't fully understand the scope
Speaker 1: of it, and I don't know that I can even
Speaker 1: really fully take a stance because I don't even understand
Speaker 1: the scope of all that's going on. But I was
Speaker 1: just kind of curious if y'all knew a little bit
Speaker 1: more about it, if you can help explain it to
Speaker 1: me a.
Speaker 2: Little bit more. I usually filter like everything through Preston.
Speaker 2: He's my cliff note guy. Yeah, So like i'll because
Speaker 2: I just can't. I don't have the capacity or I'm
Speaker 2: also like honestly sometimes like I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: it's too much. So but he will even like anything
Speaker 2: with policies anything, and then I filter all things school
Speaker 2: and educating it. Yeah, but like he kind of tried
Speaker 2: to lay it out, Fran and I was I got
Speaker 2: just confused.
Speaker 1: I usually know, this one's just really compluted. This one's
Speaker 1: just it's a lot to it.
Speaker 2: So it does feel like murky and noisy. Me just
Speaker 2: feels like it's confusingly aware right now, I know it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so when we get clarification, when we circle back,
Speaker 2: is that what we want to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll circle back on that one. But what else
Speaker 1: is going on? I feel like there's just been a lot.
Speaker 2: Kat would you do over the break?
Speaker 1: What did I do?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it a long time.
Speaker 1: Kids and Enid, that was about it.
Speaker 2: I like Cube Cube the best.
Speaker 1: I love that game.
Speaker 2: I don't love how to Play Well, Guys, that was
Speaker 2: a good one. It's glad. I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I think we're back together.
Speaker 3: And should we just say, like, what do you do
Speaker 3: you believe in saving receipts.
Speaker 2: For just life? Yeah? I mean I want to. I
Speaker 2: want to say no, but I know me.
Speaker 1: One million percent. I can remember talking to my boss
Speaker 1: years ago and as having a disagreement in him saying
Speaker 1: pick up the phone and column, and I said, and
Speaker 1: when you're in a position like I'm in, you want
Speaker 1: it in writing. I mean, I just it is one
Speaker 1: of those I have always. Yes, I love a phone call,
Speaker 1: but guess what if something was covered on that phone call,
Speaker 1: I'm also going to email you and make sure I
Speaker 1: have a receipt about it.
Speaker 2: Do you think the re sech can be misread?
Speaker 1: Misread in certain circumstances? Sure, And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: I am necessarily sarily an advocate for showing receipts publicly.
Speaker 1: I just think that they sure can't protect you in
Speaker 1: a situation like this. Do I need to see the
Speaker 1: receipts of what happened between Blake and Justin? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that made me think of that.
Speaker 2: It was like appliances or that's where I'm at, and
Speaker 2: like I do actually because you just never know when
Speaker 2: Maytag might need a moment.
Speaker 1: But you never know when you're going to get sued
Speaker 1: and you're going to need to have those receipts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't. I'm huge.
Speaker 1: I'm huge on having stuff in writing, which text life.
Speaker 2: I haven't really either, like a conversation same. But you
Speaker 2: know what's interesting is like I almost receded out something
Speaker 2: gosh a few years ago. Oh boy, did I want
Speaker 2: to so bad, like so bad because I was getting
Speaker 2: dragged through some stuff that I was like, that is
Speaker 2: not actually facts, Like that is not facts? Mad member
Speaker 2: sitting with Catherine being like I and this publication was like,
Speaker 2: well you can because I sent them the receipt and
Speaker 2: I said, here's the actual proof that that's not factual,
Speaker 2: and she goes, well you can post that, and I
Speaker 2: was like, because you want me to, that's drama for them,
Speaker 2: you and pick up. Oh.
Speaker 3: I mean I was sreaming on the I mean screaming,
Speaker 3: and the path's like, calmed down.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's not you. It's just frustrating.
Speaker 3: Life, right, And I have the receipt right there, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna run something that's not freaking true, right.
Speaker 2: I was so pissed.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like that when I was like someone that's it,
Speaker 3: Like this is like this is exactly what these publications want.
Speaker 3: You want the fucking drama, right, and you want me
Speaker 3: to post this, that's right. I'll just keep it going,
Speaker 3: bringing back and that's the thing. And like my publicist
Speaker 3: and her was like and Catherine was like, this will
Speaker 3: just continue it and I'm like, and you're going to
Speaker 3: be feeding what they want. And I'm like, but it's
Speaker 3: going to make this person look like they win and
Speaker 3: that's killing me.
Speaker 2: Like that's killing me.
Speaker 3: And and I was like, but I'm but I'm I
Speaker 3: had to go to the like I know the truth
Speaker 3: and swallow it and let it die.
Speaker 2: Oh. But it was the hardest thing ever. I also
Speaker 2: just know, like I know, like I know vindication comes
Speaker 2: and we do not have to always. I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what it's and that's the thing. I'm like, and
Speaker 2: I've recently I got don't know how when I was
Speaker 2: like scrolling back in certain things, I ended up just
Speaker 2: getting rid of everything because I'm like, it doesn't I
Speaker 2: was like, it'll all come back the way it's supposed
Speaker 2: to wash out, not with me anymore, because I'm long
Speaker 2: removed from that situation. That's right, But it'll come back
Speaker 2: to them in a different situation somewhere else. I don't
Speaker 2: need to be the one and I'm I'm so glad
Speaker 2: I did not put something out. Yeah, do you want
Speaker 2: to have a manager appreciation moment?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I do want to say that
Speaker 1: if that were me personally, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: could have taken my own advice. I will be the
Speaker 1: first to say that I know what the right thing
Speaker 1: in that situation is to do. But let me not
Speaker 1: say if I were you, it would have been really
Speaker 1: freaking hard for me not to trust me. I love
Speaker 1: a receipt and I don't like my name being like
Speaker 1: muddied any more than anyone else. So the fact that
Speaker 1: you were able to show that restraint is huge and
Speaker 1: I give that to you because that is what needed
Speaker 1: to happen. But on the flip side, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: blamed you for a second for putting it out there.
Speaker 1: But it just it just keeps it going, and it
Speaker 1: makes it more miserable for you and for and it's
Speaker 1: just not worth it. But yeah, you're out of it,
Speaker 1: and the watch.
Speaker 2: It always gets cleaned eventually, eventually. But anyways, leopard never
Speaker 2: changes its spot. I hope they do. I have Well,
Speaker 2: you're not a lesser thing. I hope you're not a leopard.
Speaker 2: Well listen, we've all like you know, and I think people,
Speaker 2: and this is what I'll always go back to. I
Speaker 2: don't have hate for a single person in my life.
Speaker 2: I really don't. And I think everyone has the ability
Speaker 2: to change. I've changed, I've grown so much, and I
Speaker 2: continue to grow. I continue to change, I continue to
Speaker 2: learn and.
Speaker 3: Like and I pray for those people that you know
Speaker 3: did wrong or did bad or whatever to be able
Speaker 3: that they're growing and they're happy. And I think some
Speaker 3: people together are just oil and water.
Speaker 2: I know, you know what I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly, So I'm like, some people just don't mix well together.
Speaker 3: Some people are just really unhealthy at that time together,
Speaker 3: and everyone's off. I'll have like and I want everyone
Speaker 3: to be freaking happy.
Speaker 2: I have like zero. That's why I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: no issues.
Speaker 3: Like if I ran into the people that hated me that,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I hope that they can meet me in
Speaker 3: this version. Now I hope to meet them in that version.
Speaker 3: So I hope, you know, for all all love and
Speaker 3: all change and all like we all all are allowed that,
Speaker 3: and I hope everyone's great. And I do believe that
Speaker 3: people can change, but.
Speaker 1: Also will continue to make mistakes. People make mistakes. That's
Speaker 1: who we are. We are hearings, people make mistakes.
Speaker 2: Gel together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like sometimes you sit in the cars and people,
Speaker 3: I'm like, this person's give me my friend.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. But you're really good. You're
Speaker 2: really good at that. You'll be like, oh, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you guys connect Like that doesn't hurt your feelings. Glad
Speaker 2: she does. She said it to me, glad you connect.
Speaker 2: And I was like, anyway, well I die, I just
Speaker 2: die because I I it's just so like it's so certain.
Speaker 2: It's not like because I was like, wait, whoa I didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, and she's like, I'm glad you and I
Speaker 2: think she didn't really meant it, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: that is. But it's also like when we talked about,
Speaker 2: you know how you're like I dated someone, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: those guys not right for me, but the person would
Speaker 2: be great for Julie. I'm like, oh no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: You're really good about that. Thanks. I think that's how
Speaker 2: you survived in l A. Yeah, like I think that world,
Speaker 2: you know, that industry is just your industry is you
Speaker 2: have to be that way. I mean, I just believe
Speaker 2: in that, you know, I believe that Mike's new he's
Speaker 2: going to be great for his new girlfriend. We just
Speaker 2: were terrible together, you know. I love that you believe
Speaker 2: that about him. Anyways, let's