1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode of the Professional 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Homegirl podcast. Now. Last week, in part one, we had 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: the pleasure of learning about my guest journey and to 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: the BDSM lifestyle and her transformation into becoming a professional dominatrix. Now, 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: in part two, my guests would share with us her 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: requirements for pagan okay, the importance of safeguarding her mental 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: well being, the challenges of seeking a genuine connection with 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: someone which we all can relate to, and so much more. 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Don't miss out on this amazing conversation starting now now. 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: So what do you do when it comes to preparing 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: for a pagan session? Because I know you want to 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: make sure that it ain't gonna be shitting on you 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: while you right. 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: When when you book a session, and we booked the 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: date in time, I will let you know immediately if 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna eat you better fleet because I charge the 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: scat tax and that's an extra hundred dollars if you 18 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: paint me, if you paint the straps for any reason, 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: and that means that when you went to the restaurant 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: your water was brown instead of clear. Yeah, you are 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: paying for that. 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Somebody should know you before No because that. 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: No, I don't play that ship. But oh, I got 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: to make sure that I packed my gear. I have 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: some sterile gloves because I always wear gloves. I have 26 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: boy Butter, which is a type of lube. It's a 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: white loob. It looks like the little country crop butter 28 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: things and it has boy butter and blue and yellow 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: like riding on the front. I have extralube, a water 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: based loop. I have syringes because I have like the 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: Spoli sorriges. I'll stick that in the lubricant and then 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: I'll stick that in you so that when I slide in, 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: it's a smooth sloor right and you're covered. So but 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: I tell them, I'm like, hey, you better not be 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: eating like within like a couple of hours before seeing me, 36 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: and you need to go ahead and fleet using enema. Please. 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: I don't care if you're about to pass out from exhaution. 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: You will get a granola bar in the water after 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: the service is completed. Because we are not feel the 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: fuck up these people's place, and you are not feinishit 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: on me. 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: We're just that I think that's pretty good that you 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: haven't been shitting on though. 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: No, but when I ripped that other. I was just like, wait, stop, 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: I said, you're leaving. He was just like, oh for real, 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: I said, yeah. So got them together heavily, and I'm like, 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm not even going fast. I'm like, it's just because 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: he's a little bit tensed up. He hasn't done this 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: in a while. So I did I after care, which 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: he just wanted to talk about it. I cleaned them up, 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: and I'm already back there, I might as well, So 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: I clean them up and make sure that they're good, 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: and I give them a snap for some water and 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: we talk about the session. Or whatever your aftercare is. 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: It could be coddling, it could be giving a hug, 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: it could be or I don't want no act care. 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well, I'm just not going to send 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: you out in a while after I don't rearrange you 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: side like that. You know, just stay here for a 60 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: little bit. I was just saying, dependent on whatever their 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: preferred after care method is, that's what we perform. 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Are you ever turned on doing these sessions? 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: Yes, by the position of power. I love getting my 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: feet run too, so not all my sessions involve pegging, 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: but they do it involved feet. I don't know. I 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: guess from being in a position of power and knowing 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: that what I'm doing helps others, but it also helps 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: me because it's just like I'm the queen, like I'm 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: doing this ship and I've been doing this shit for 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: a while. I've never had a bad experience, and it's 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: actually helped me. Any bad experience that I've had with 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: customer was with the customer that I had not met, 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: someone trying to negotiate or trying to pull a fast one. 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: In addition to these questions that I asked clients and 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: when they fell out the application, I scrub their social media. 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: I look for any and everything that may be an issue. 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go to your at name or your 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: screen name. I'll type in the word ho, I'll type 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: in the word bitch. I'll type in the word women, 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: black women, Megan. I'll type in anything in order to 81 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: find something. And if something is not right, or if 82 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: you were saying something like regarding the messy balance or anything, 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, here's your money back. I don't won't we continue? 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: Oh what's wrong? I'll know it's all right. I kind 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: of pulled up this What did you pull up on 86 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: me in my background the street, and I'm like, is 87 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: this you? Right? Is this you? 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: And you have to do that these days? 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: You have to, you have to, and it's it will 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: save you in the long run. I've been looking for 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: like a contextub, like someone who wouldn't mind being on 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: film because I actually like playing and doing sessions and 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: everything like that, and I like when my clients are covered. 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: I have a sex infriend to reach out to me 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: to feel like the application and I'm like, absolutely not. 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: You're not even supposed to be on the internet that alone. 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: So it's just it's a safety caution people who have 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: or feel some type of way about feeling the application. 99 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: Red flag people who fill it out and then I 100 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: see all this other shit on social media. Red flag 101 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: my SOUF pulls out your background shit and it's some 102 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: shit on it, and shit be on your red fucking flag, right. 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: It's just you gotta be picky and selective. All money 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: is not good money. 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: Money is not good money. Come to me, it's not right. 107 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: I turned on a lot of money in order for 108 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: me to be able to move safely, and I'm going 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: to continue to do so as long as my safety 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: is becauseime. 111 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Right, I do appreciate how you emphasize the importance of 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: providing aftercare to all of your clients, because I feel 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: like I'd never heard Dom's talk like that before or 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: offer that service. 115 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I've had subs or clients, because not every client is 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: a submissive, Like reach out and be like, oh, I've 117 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: never gotten that, Like what is that? Or is that 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: stuff that I have to pay for? And I'm like, no, 119 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: it comes with the service. Like you don't get after care. 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, they just send you off in the wind 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: after doing some harmful shit to you that's consensual, of course. 122 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: And then I'm like, well yeah, Like I'm like, you know, 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: this is a place for you to gather not only 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: your physical self, but your thoughts as well. I may 125 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: have a blanket for you, you may need some quiet time. 126 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: I remove all sorts of objects, toys, clothing, you name it, 127 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: from the scene, and I'm dressed in my regular clothes 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: at that point. I'm rushing in order to get dressed 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: so that you don't see anything that may cause or 130 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: trigger something in you. 131 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: Damn you really are. 132 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: It's important. It's important that which is not a job 133 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: that everybody can do. I do it. 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: What's one of your services? 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: You like the least to do? I like the least 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: and I know I'm gonna get some health that I'm 137 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: gonna get some health of this. 138 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Oh, here we go, y'all, Here we go. 139 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Brat taman what's that? Okay? So you will have some 140 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: sort of submissive or a client that wants to push 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: the boundaries or test your limits or does not do 142 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: what they want to do or be on some what 143 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: are you gonna do about it? And I'm like, do 144 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: you know what the fuck is you're talking to? Like? 145 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: She's not talking to me, like, But you will get 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: some people who will go ahead and test your boundaries, 147 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: who you will have to possibly physically restrain, and you 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: will have to go ahead and administer their punishments too. 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: But the only thing is it's time ten. So think 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: about the bad ass kids with the silver teeth in 151 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: his mouth that's running a mug and that you can't control. 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: But in an adult form, I've had to I've had 153 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: to force, you know, I have to put somebody down. 154 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Not in the sense that you know that they're not 155 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: here anymore, but I think they got the playing with 156 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: them in the way that they thought they were playing 157 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: with me, so they were brating out, doing a lot 158 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: of things for attention, knocking shit on the floor like 159 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you name it. They add like an adult 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: child that can't be tamed, and it's your job. It's 161 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: your job to like totain that, to make sure that 162 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: you know bad behaviors directed. 163 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Let me find out you pissed the whipping niggas out here. 164 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: No, I've had to set as the fact to suck 165 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: them with my gun, and I said, absolutely not, but 166 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: people will try. He's in the military, by the way, 167 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: So you see how all this ship kind of comes together, 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: right right right? 169 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Do your clients know you carry a gun with you? 170 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: No, they probably will after they watched this, but they don't. 171 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm not even dressed in leather. Like for a 172 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: lot of people who are either into feet or just 173 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: into women dominating them, a lot of them are like, oh, 174 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: you don't have to wear like the leather or the 175 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: launching or anything like that. Come in your regular clothes 176 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 2: and said, I want this ship to feel natural. I'm like, oh, 177 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: for say less word. 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Right there, putting up glasses, a scar, some sweats. 179 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, hooty leggings and some flip flops, right, the 180 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: hardest flip flops I know I'm gonna have to administer. 181 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Now, I know you were on Only Fast, What were 182 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: your reasons for leaving? 183 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: Oh? My God, of sex workers on that platform is 184 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: mind boggling. I had started to notice that whenever I 185 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: would post my videos with clients, and I do still 186 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: have some in the vault, they would ask for a 187 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 2: consent form like a model or release form. And I'm like, 188 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: these people are fully club covered. You do not know 189 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: who they are. Why do I need this? But apparently 190 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: they do need that, and they would hide my posts 191 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: and then ultimately delete them if I didn't have that form, 192 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: and I had to tag the person that I was 193 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: in a video with, and I'm like, these clients want 194 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: to do this right exactly. And then if there's anything, 195 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: even though it's a platform for sex workers, you can't 196 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: advertise that you're getting this for monetary game. So I 197 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: had like a tip menu, like, hey, you can go 198 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: ahead and pay for neils, you can pay for feet, 199 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: you can pay for my lunch. And if they they've 200 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: removed that, they started removing all my old content from 201 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: like twenty twenty one. And then on Twitter the other day, 202 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: I saw that some girl her entire profile was deleted 203 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: and they will hold her money because they could not 204 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: determine if this was like prostitution related, even though this 205 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: essentially is e prostitution, or if this is something that 206 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: money made from only fans, and since they couldn't determine it, 207 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: they could not let her cash out. They just deleted 208 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: her profile. 209 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Wow, that's fucked up. 210 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: It is so I can I waited for everybody to 211 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: go ahead and send for their funds to pen because 212 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: only fans takes out twenty But whenever somebody mays yeah, 213 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: and whenever somebody makes a purchase, your money isn't always 214 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: available immediately. It takes seven billions to post. Right. If 215 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 2: someone wants to file a charge back, they can, but 216 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: their profile will be deleted and clip like OnlyFans does 217 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: not play that. 218 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: They got fucking nerve because every all these women may 219 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: them they may only fans so much money, and y'all 220 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: got the audacity to delete niggas profiles. 221 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: And unfortunately it's just the fact that they're like, well, 222 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: we can't tell if this is you know, related, this 223 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: isn't you know, a violation of our guidelines. We're just 224 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: going to delete your account and just hope they're not 225 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: even sending money, you know, in the film of a 226 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: check or anything. And I mean granted for someone who 227 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: was just starting out on OnlyFans, waiting a week for 228 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: somebody that you need us as soon as a long 229 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: ass time. On top of that, you have to wait 230 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: for your bank to process it once you catch out. 231 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: So I'm probably going to be moving over to fans. 232 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: It's a platform that was made by sex workers for 233 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: sex workers, and it's the best of both worlds and 234 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: it's a win win. I remember when Only Fans tried 235 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: to do that, Oh, if you have any hard kinks 236 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: or these kinks listed, we're not going to show you. 237 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: It's a violation. And then when everybody was just all right, 238 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: well we'll just take our platforms to somewhere else, they 239 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: were like, okay, well you know that's fine. You just 240 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: can't do this particularly hold up. Yeah, so Internet building 241 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: in steven building has benefits in some way. 242 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,479 Speaker 1: Right right, we'll wait, So how were you introduced to OnlyFans? 243 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: I always like saw it on the internet and I 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: follow a lot of well not a lot of because 245 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: there's some people on there who are just you know, 246 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: there's some cruds, but they're my friends and everything, and 247 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: they don't judge and everything. But I've saw people using 248 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: feet Finder, and I'm like, okay, like f finders, okay, 249 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: but I'm like, I don't want this just to be 250 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: my only thing, because some people may be interested in 251 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: other things other than feet right, So I decided only fans. 252 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: And briefly I was a PSO, which is a phone 253 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: sex operator for a couple of companies, and that also 254 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: brought in good money too. That still brings in good money, 255 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: especially if you put like a hashtag reparations, then all 256 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: the white folks call you want to just give you 257 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: your money and everything like that, right, Like you know, 258 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: white they like black people now, so especially during the 259 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: month of February, so that's Black Black New World Order month, 260 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: and that's where we get our lick back. That's where 261 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: we get our operations and everything. But I got into 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: only Fans just because I saw that it was a 263 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: popular platform that a lot of people were subscribing to, 264 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I won't have an issue trying 265 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: to get users because they're already familiar with But fans 266 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: lead just for fans. There's there's like so many platforms 267 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: that we can actually be go And one thing I 268 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: tell people, you have to have separate sources of income 269 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: within sex work. It can't just be webcam. I do webcam. 270 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: Phone sex operators sell my old undergarments only fans, and 271 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: then you can have different things on certain platforms, like 272 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know any person who is a sex worker 273 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: who just does only fans. And that's it, right, Like 274 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: you have to have multiple streams of income because sechs 275 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: like only fans can be gone here one day and 276 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: going to borrow. Yeah, you have to get created like 277 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: so that always helps, and YouTube helps. Honestly, a lot 278 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: of people are gravitating towards YouTube because people, I mean 279 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: people's text message history and they browser history is already 280 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: fucked up. Imagine what they're looking up on YouTube within 281 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: certain so people are going there too. It's just it's 282 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: a lot of possibilities. But working smart instead of like 283 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: overworking or working harder is is key. 284 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Right. 285 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: See, I thought you was gonna say how the pastor 286 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: introduced you to only fans? 287 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know. Okay, I'm gonna go into that 288 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: real quick. And the way that I met the pastor 289 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: was not like he signed up for my services or 290 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: anything like that. I was going out to brunch and 291 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: I was dating somebody at the time. He stood me up. 292 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, this is over. I'm done with you. 293 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: You never have to worry about speaking to me again. 294 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: I was on the South Side and I was walking. 295 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: I was mad as how, tears rolling down my face 296 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: and got my makeup done. 297 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: I was like, he's like this person. 298 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: And I went to sign my name at the you 299 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: know where you do the reservations and everything. I said, 300 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: how long is the wait? They said about it hot, 301 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, god, like me whatever. So the 302 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: guy who there was a guy who was sitting on 303 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: the bench with his son. He was just like, hello, 304 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm my hey. I just went ahead to sign my 305 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: name just because I'm already kissed. He doesn't know shit 306 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: about it, and he was just like, I like your 307 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: toes and I'm like thank you. He was just like, 308 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: you're here alone, and I'm like, clearly, I'm here alone. 309 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, but I'm not going to get mad at 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: him because he didn't do anything right. So I w 311 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: on the phone just texting and tweeting like I can't 312 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: believe this nigga slit me up bluh the bus and 313 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: then he starts to make like conversation and he was 314 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: just like, well, you know, why don't you have a 315 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: brunch with me and my son? His son was like three, 316 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: and I was just Alkohola wanted intrude, like this is 317 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: a day for y'all too, and he was just like, look, 318 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: you know, being stood up doesn't seem fine. I've been 319 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: through that, so you know, just come and hang with us. 320 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: And I'm like, just like a nigga in a cloth, 321 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm like okay. 322 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: So we went inside and where we went to was 323 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: the Real Milk and Honey, which is on on the 324 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: south side off of Main Street College, and had a 325 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: good time. Absolute gentleman. He's he's young too, He's not 326 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: old or anything like that. And he was just like, 327 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: you know, thanks for you know, staying here for a brunch. 328 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't go home. I said, thanks for 329 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: having me. As soon as I was about to pull 330 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: out my while he had already paid for my meal, 331 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: I said, oh, okay, okay. So he was just like, 332 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: if you don't have anything to do. You know, maybe 333 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: you can come and watch movies with me and my son. 334 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't feel comfortable going to your 335 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: house or anything. He was just like, oh no, my 336 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: church is across the tracks, across the railroad tracks. So 337 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: if anybody is looking at this in Atlanta, you know 338 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: exactly the church I'm talking to, because you know exactly 339 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: where the milk and honey is and how that is 340 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: literally parallel this. 341 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: Man, I don't need nobody passed the gun coming from 342 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: the professional homegirl. 343 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: So what happened was he was just like, we just 344 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: gonna watch the Equalizer. He was just a happy seeing it, 345 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no move with Denzel. I said, okay, 346 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: I forgot Denzel, are you watching it? We were watching 347 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: it upstairs of like a lounge area, Like there was 348 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: like a lounge area upstairs inside of the church. It 349 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: wasn't in like the bullpit or anything. It's just like 350 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: a place like it had TVs and stuff like that. 351 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: It was just like a regular church. I felt kind 352 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: of nervous because I'm like, I'm going to this person's church, 353 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: but I'm like, hey, this is the house of the Lord. 354 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: Nothing crazy is gonna happen right right. So we are 355 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: watching the movie, and literally ten seconds into the movie, 356 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: he was just like, all right, time for you to 357 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: go to bed, and the son is just like for daddy, 358 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sleepy. He literally grabbed him like this it 359 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: was just like time for then, and took him out 360 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 2: of the room. And I'm like he wasn't doing anything. 361 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, he was just watching the movie whatever. The 362 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: child wasn't even talking like he was just watching the movie. 363 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: And I know he probably like, well, why the am 364 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: I getting? You know, thrown out it right? 365 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: We just met her. 366 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: You put the child in like the nursery, like down 367 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: the hall. That was a pretty good church. And he 368 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: came back and he was just like, you know, you 369 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: could take your shoes off, like do you want a massage? 370 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm afraid of what what happened if 371 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: I say no? 372 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: But you had you had your piece on you though, 373 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: right yes, if you want to shot that pasta in 374 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: the church. 375 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: Oh my god? And how would I be able to 376 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: explain that to anybody? So he was just like, do 377 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: you want a massage? And I'm like yes. So he 378 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: started massage on my feet as we're watching a movie 379 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, this can't get any you know, 380 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: bad or anything like that, Like this is fine, a 381 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: little awkward is I mean, you just met me, but okay. 382 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I felt something wet and 383 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: this man had my foot like halfway down his rope. 384 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh my, and I was just looking like I was 385 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: just like, oh my god. So I immediately started like 386 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: dee throwing him with my foot and then I'm like 387 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: kind of like mushed him with my foot and I 388 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: was just like lay down and I started trampling him. 389 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: I started trampling. I started stepping off his deck, I 390 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: started stepping off his face. I started talking to him 391 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: all crazy and dirty, and then he was just like wait, 392 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: wait a minute. He pulled. He goes to like the 393 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: drawer and there's Vassilina in there, and I'm like, were 394 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: you prepared for some ship like this to happen? Like 395 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: why is Vasslona in the drawer? And there's a towel 396 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: in there? And I'm like that's not no. But I'm 397 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: trying to just and I snapped a picture. I snapped 398 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: two pictures because I'm like, nobody is going to fucking 399 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: believe me if I don't have any proof about what 400 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: the fuck is happening right now. So we ended up 401 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: having a few sessions like after the fat But he 402 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: was just like, you know, why don't you consider putting 403 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: your stuff on like OnlyFans and everything. And I'm like, 404 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: I thought about it. I'm like, there are different platforms 405 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: out here. He was just like, yeah, but you know 406 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: you can put other stuff on there too, if you 407 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: are feeling okay with it, and I'm like, okay, you know, 408 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: you know it won't hurt. So like I think, like 409 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: the following me, I went ahead and set it up. 410 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: But for years I had always been getting like money, 411 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: like from random people to like purchase shoes, and then 412 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: they'll purchase for me to do a session with the shoes, 413 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: and I won't be doing anything new. I'll just be 414 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: walking around in the circle and just modeling shoes on 415 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: like a mini ring light and like my phone in 416 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: the middle. I'm not doing anything. They're jacking off or 417 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: doing whatever the fuck they want to do in the background. 418 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: But I was just like, I'm getting paid to buy 419 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: shoes wear them. I'm like, I can't put this shit 420 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 2: only fan right. I started putting whatever. Whenever I got 421 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: a pedicure, I had a new picture up there. And 422 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: what I tell some of my students is smart and 423 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: not hard. I said, if you know that you're about 424 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: to put some content out there, and take one day 425 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: and make as much content as you can and then 426 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: release it with then like released like maybe three or 427 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: four videos per week. That way you're only working one 428 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: day out of the month and the rest of the 429 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: month is up to you whatever you want. I'm telling 430 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: people because I'm like, you will run yourself ragged trying 431 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: to you know, juggle like mini hats in one day. 432 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: And trust me, it is hard for me too, but 433 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: especially having a full time job. Yes I had it, 434 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: and I was going to school full time as well, 435 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: and just blessing my ass. The most that I made 436 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: was like fifteen grand and two months and that was 437 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: just that was just on weekends. That was just Fridays 438 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: and Friday, Saturdays and Sundays. I didn't work during the week. 439 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: I don't work during the week. Now is a dome 440 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: unless it's virtual. Virtual. I'll get on styping. I'll with 441 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: with my totals and do whatever you need me to do. 442 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: But in person sessions always on weekends. So I did 443 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: a Mary Pegmant special where clients had to tip me 444 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: in the form of a gift, and they would tip 445 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: me either in clothes or cash and everything. And I 446 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: just saved with all my money for like a year, 447 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: and I paid for school. I finished that and now 448 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: I am working on being a traveling dom for the 449 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: year of twenty twenty four twenty twenty five. So right 450 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: now I work, come on, I work home, and I'm 451 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: working on getting a different remote position that will allow 452 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: me to work and travel simultaneously so that I could 453 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: just get right you go to the next city. 454 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, where do you think all of this 455 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: them from? Because I do feel like you really enjoy it. 456 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: But where do you think all of this them from? 457 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: Like you being in charge? 458 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Like because not all kinks are ruin and trauma how 459 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: and and don't get me wrong, I'm not taking my 460 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: kinks out on anybody, right, But for years in my relationships, 461 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: my renowned relationships, I was always submissive and I was 462 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: all ways getting hurt by being too nice. And I 463 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: realized that men really get off when your means front 464 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: to them. I get whatever I want whenever I need 465 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: to someone or whenever I treat someone like shit and 466 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, like are all of them like massacres 467 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: or something like that. I'm like, this is kind of crazy. 468 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: But then I'm like, you know what, I feel good 469 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: for being a villain in somebody's story. That's how I 470 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: was like kind of feeling. I'm like, you know what, 471 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: if someone says that I'm a bitch, I'm gonna just 472 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: go ahead of rocket. You better make sure that you 473 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: put paid in front of it, though. But it felt 474 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: good to be on the other end to know that 475 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: I have the control over someone's mind, their mental, psychological state, 476 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: physical as well, and to know that it's consensual and 477 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: that I don't have to do things or be mean 478 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: to men out of trying to get back at them 479 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: or trying to have a one up on them. No, 480 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: I'm assertive because I'm that bitch. Had I known that 481 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: had this shit that ago, I promise you I would 482 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: have been even more successful, doll, and I would have 483 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: had a gang of subs because it just will still 484 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: power and self esteem to me that I didn't know 485 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: that I had, and that ship is powerful for you 486 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: to wake up and be like, wait, I ain't gonna 487 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: take ship from nobody anymore, A nigga, a bitch, a 488 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: job like f No, Like, you know, you have autonomy 489 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: over your own happiness. And my happiness is within and 490 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: with and with other things that I truly enjoy and 491 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: with me being the dominant figure even in my personal life. 492 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: Someone that I've been dating for about a year, he's 493 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: into dominant women. And yeah, a lot of men they're like, oh, 494 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: I don't need for my girl to be submissive or anything. 495 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: She just can't talk to me all while crazy, but 496 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: she doesn't have to be submissive or this idea that 497 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: whatever I say goals. So I'm and he's like the 498 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: really relaxed, nonchalot tag and I'm the type of person 499 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: like I say, but with them respect. He's a man's 500 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: that what I do. And and he we met through 501 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: a Twitter space that I was in with other kingstons 502 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: and he had opened up and said that he had 503 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: a foot fetish and I'm like, oh, okay, you just 504 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: amox us. 505 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: I me know this. 506 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: You know this is fine. This is the safe space 507 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: for you. So it got kind of awkward because if 508 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: you're if you have Twitter and someone is in the 509 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: Twitter space. If you're not in the Twitter space, you 510 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: can see what other spaces people are in. So I 511 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: know people are probably like, why is right? Right? People? 512 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: So he took it to the d MS. He sent 513 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: me a cash app request and I'm like, hey, did 514 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: you mean to send us to me? 515 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: He was just like yeah, I was just like with 516 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: some coins now, yeah, I'm just. 517 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: Talking to you and I'm like, okay. Surprisingly, I'm like 518 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: I'm just talking to you too, and he was just 519 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: like really and then the rest. 520 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: But you know what that that has to be an 521 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: amazing feeling because I can only imagine the amount of 522 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: people that you have met and only want to be 523 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: with you because of what you do and not who 524 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: you are. 525 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Vetting a client is so much easier 526 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: than vetting someone that you are going to be with 527 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: because you don't know if you're going to be used 528 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: as assol to supplyve to fulfill their cancer, the desires 529 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: and everything. So I've told them I was just like, 530 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 2: I don't I'm demmy sexual. I really don't get physically 531 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: attracted to someone unless I get an emotional bond from it. 532 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: I have that someone because time and time again, people 533 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: will like, hey, you know, can I get to know you? 534 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: And I tell you who I am because I feel 535 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: like you deserve to know, because I don't want to 536 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: need you on to tell you or portray something that 537 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: or someone that I'm not. And I'm like, hey, I'm 538 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: a professional dominatrix outside of being a product designer. This 539 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: is who I am. And you'll have people oh, that's fine, 540 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and then you get in an argument. 541 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: You're also at to bitches and holes and prostitutes and all. 542 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: It's just like it be frustrating and the fact that 543 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: he lets me do me and because I love it 544 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: and it's something that I was doing way before him, 545 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: and he sees how happy I am with it, and 546 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 2: the benefits that it's given both of us because now 547 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: he's able to explore his kings space exactly. It's for 548 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: us both. 549 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So how do your friends and family feel 550 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: about your profession. 551 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: The only person that does not know is my mom? Mm. 552 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: Everybody else knows. My family knows and know how my 553 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: mother is, and she is very She went from fighting 554 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: in the clubs to I am a saved person, which 555 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: is nothing because I'm a believe in myself. You know, 556 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: I would not be anywhere without Big Home Dance. But 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: for the most part, my mother thinks that I'm a 558 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: makeup artist because I do make up too. 559 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: I hope your mom and don't listen to this podcast 560 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: not either. 561 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: But let me tell you. 562 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: The other day she found your dombag. 563 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: She found my yes and it was open in my closet. 564 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: She was going to my closet to get something that 565 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: she's sawing on the floor. She didn't see much because 566 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: she didn't go through much, but it's metal cock raids 567 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: that were hanging out of it. So she's just like, 568 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing or what you're doing 569 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: with but we stopped. I moved in with my mother 570 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: like about a year ago because my lease was up, 571 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: and I was just like, you know what. I eventually 572 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: went home. I'm tired of renting and I wanted to 573 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: go ahead and say and I've been able to do 574 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: so and it has been amazing. And whenever I leave 575 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: the house with my red dombag, I tell her I'm 576 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: going to do makeup. But now she knows what's in 577 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: the red dombag and she thinks and I'm using it 578 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: on me, and I'm like, oh, no, you were mistaken. 579 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: None of these are going in me. It's been going 580 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: on me. 581 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if she used to fight in the club, 582 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she gonna put two and two together. 583 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: She thinks that I'm using it for things the pleasure myself. No, 584 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: these are instruments and weapons of ass destruction for others. 585 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 2: None of these go in me. But my uncle's now, 586 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: my friends now, they're all cool with it. They're like wow, 587 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: and some people are like I'm not surprised, but and 588 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: all in all, I haven't gotten anyone who was like, no, 589 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: that's a lie. I've gotten someone who said that they 590 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: wanted to buy formula for their kid and their baby. 591 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: Daddy like abruptly quit their job and he was living 592 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: with them and everything like that. But she had asked 593 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: me for I can't like money for can't know, and 594 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, sounds suspicious and everything. So he ended 595 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: up changing his hours so that he was working nights, 596 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 2: and she was just like, money is tight right now, 597 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. And I was just like, 598 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: have you thought about remote work or anything like that? 599 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: Going the jobs? I said, Oh, she's just like you 600 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: having to plun and everywhere said, well what about doing cam. 601 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmmm, said you have pretty pee too. 602 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: I said, you don't have to show your stakes or 603 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: rideo or you know anything, your boobs or anything like 604 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: that or anything. But you can make us some money, 605 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: I said, And he doesn't have to know because he'll 606 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: be at work. And she was just said, oh, that's 607 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: beneath me. That's actually now when you not when you 608 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: laid up with somebody you're not married to, either that tomorrow, 609 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: come on now asking me for money when you got 610 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: a man laying up next to you and. 611 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: Laying next to you, laying up next to me, and 612 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: I got to ask somebody else for some money. 613 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: Money, give it back to me and blocked me, and 614 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: we never spoke to each other again. I said, you know, 615 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't kick people out of my life they want 616 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: to leave. This is not a revolving doors, right go ahead. 617 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: That was the only person who was just like, I'm 618 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: friends with you, but when it comes to doing that 619 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: for me, oh no, that's that's possible. I would never 620 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: do that, right. I never said some of these men 621 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: that I'm not even gonna go into that but I've 622 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: had people are like, hey, I think my significant other 623 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: follows you, and I'm like, okay, well I got ten 624 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: k followers on Twitter. I'm not sure which one your 625 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: man is. 626 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: Right. 627 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: I didn't need to know that because now you just 628 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: made this uncomfortable for everybody, right, right. 629 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: But you know, as someone who is passionate about their work, 630 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: because like, I give my all to my business, right 631 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: and I can only imagine that you invest a lot 632 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: of time and energy into your business. So how do 633 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: you balance that with taking care of yourself? Like what 634 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: does your self care routine look like? 635 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: Man? It was not easy. And one thing I tell 636 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: my mentee, it's okay to step away from this because 637 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: you don't want to get burnt out. I was burnt 638 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: out doming, working full time and going to school full time. Yeah, 639 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: that's all right, I told myself. I said, oh, when 640 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: this is done, I'm going to have the biggest party 641 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: ever to celebrate my school. As soon as I was 642 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: done submitting my final assignment, I went to sleep for 643 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: like a week. Don't nobody talk to me, don't bother me, 644 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: and everything and as doms like, even after Racine, we 645 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: experienced dom drop, which is equivalent to like a burnout, 646 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: like invanother terms, like after a scene or something, that 647 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: your adrenaline is high in order to finish the task 648 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: and to do whatever you need to do during that moment. 649 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: But once it's done, I crashed out. I cried, I 650 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: went to sleep. I didn't want to do anything. And 651 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm like, I'm not going 652 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: to get any of these years back. I'm not getting 653 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: any younger, so I'm gonna do things that are right 654 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: for me. I'm send an application to get my passport. 655 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: On Sunday, I went to the Waldorf Hotel with another 656 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: person from the kink antech community and we had a tea. 657 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: We had high tea. 658 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh I think I saw that picture. 659 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: We had got an uber black strav to take us 660 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: in the same city, literally ten minutes away to and 661 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 2: from you to keep you going. Yeah, and I do 662 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: and she does too. And the crazy thing about her 663 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: we met at my current employer, which is her former employer. 664 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: She went on to another Fortune five hundred company, and 665 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: she was just like, how did you end up here 666 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: for school? You know, I know you're done with everything. 667 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: And I showed her my fet like profile. She was 668 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: just like girl, and she showed me hers too, and 669 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, keep the fuck out of you. You in 670 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: this lifestyle. So she was just like long story short. 671 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: She used to direct videos on kink dot com. She's 672 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: a former producer for adult films, but she is also 673 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: a product designer and she is the best. So we 674 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: had high tea which was one hundred and eighteen dollars 675 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: a plate for a glass and mo wet, some sandwich, 676 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: some tea of your choice, and some crumpets. But we 677 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: had a good experience and many feel so feminine and alive. 678 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: And a week before I took my sollipsist who's also 679 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: experienced and burnout from school. I took her to go 680 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 2: get massages and to go get something to eat because 681 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: she was just like, I don't think I could make 682 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: it to the end of the semester. And then she 683 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: texted me the other day that she got she passed 684 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: all her finals. I said, we all need a boost 685 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: or pick me up before things are at the fIF 686 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: before we get to the finish line. It's nothing more 687 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: but celebrating your mouth, yourself, whether it's a small wind 688 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: or something big. Please don't put giving yourself flowers on 689 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: hold just because you have something that you want to 690 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: accomplish or do, Because those things are going to get 691 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: done if you work hard at them. But it's important 692 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: to make sure that you don't burn out yourself. And 693 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: that can have a negative effect on not only you, 694 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: but the people around you because you're not there for 695 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: them either. But you can't pour from an empty cup, 696 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: and I've been learning that right that makes sure mine 697 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: is fall first. 698 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: How has been a professional dominatrix changed your life? 699 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: It's given me so much more confidence and reassurance that 700 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: I am able to pivot, maneuver, I can bend and 701 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: not break. It's made me realize that I can be 702 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: so multifaceted and I can put whatever I have my 703 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: mind too. I had no idea I'll be able to 704 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: go ahead and pivot into the tech industry, and now 705 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: I can have access to even more clients because hey, 706 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: I'll be around all of them. So it's a way when. 707 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: But not only that, it's given me the courage to 708 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 2: go ahead and stand on my beliefs, no matter how 709 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: silly or crazy they may sound to somebody else. I 710 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: said what I said, like those are this is my beliefs. 711 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 2: This is my truth that I've seen again. It allows 712 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 2: me to be like the female Clark Kent. I'm literally 713 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: hiding in playing sight. Like you don't know the type 714 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: of work somebody does when you are sitting next to 715 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: them at like a coffee spot or in a fancy restaurant. 716 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: I can go to the Garden and Gun Club, which 717 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: is a place that you're supposed to get really dressed up, 718 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: and I can have on the hoodies, some leggings and 719 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: some easies. No One's gonna question anything about what I do. 720 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: They may have assumptions about who I am based on 721 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: how I'm dressed, but nobody's going to know that I'm 722 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: a professional dominatrid. Like you know, someone asks you what 723 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: you do for a living, They're not going to think 724 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: that you fuck niggas in the ass on Friday nights. 725 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: It's just not something you expect. But I like the freedom. 726 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm finally free in this lifestyle. I 727 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: don't like it, I do I love it. I'm not 728 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: going to change who I am. I will be a 729 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: dom until my last breath, and I will also be 730 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: a mentor as well as a student. It's just giving 731 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 2: me something to be proud of and to finally say, 732 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: this is who I am. We spend so much of 733 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: our adult years trying to find ourselves, and let's be honest, 734 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: it's people in there there these and forties that are 735 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 2: just now starting out to get this shit together. Nobody 736 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 2: hangs it all together. And I try to tell people that, 737 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: so let them get they can give themselves grapes. And 738 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: that's actually some advice that I should be taking. But 739 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: give yourself grace. I've learned to pretty much do that 740 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: and feel confident in the things that I do because 741 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm this woman, I'm this person, 742 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: and I'm like, if I can do this, I can 743 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 2: do anything. It's really boost myself and seeing on my 744 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 2: coffee for sure. 745 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: And last, but not least, what is your advice to 746 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: someone who is interested in becoming a professional dominator. 747 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: This is not an industry where you can just go 748 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: ahead and dip your toe in and be like, oh, 749 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is for me or not. No, 750 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: you're either gonna jump in head first or you are 751 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 2: going to keep it on the playground. And there's nothing 752 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 2: wrong with being vanilla and keeping it on the playground. 753 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: Like I tell people all the time, like when I 754 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 2: refer to things as vanilla, they'll get offensive and I'm 755 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: like no, Like, this just means that you do things 756 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: in a regular convention away in ankinky way. It's not 757 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: going to make you feel ashamed or that you should 758 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 2: be put down on. But what I will say is 759 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 2: anybody trying to get into this, this is work. Sex 760 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: work is work. You do not have to be sex, 761 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: have sex, or be sexually active to be a sex worker. 762 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: There are so many things under that umbrellage. You have 763 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: no idea it is related to sex work. It's not 764 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 2: for someone who is going to delete that and be 765 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: like all right, I'm just gonna step back into this again. Like, no, 766 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 2: you have to build your clients trust, you have to 767 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: build their loyalty. You got to find what you're good at, 768 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: find out if there's a market for it, and go 769 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 2: ahead and sell that. Shita, It's a hustle. It is 770 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: indeed a hustle. It's not for the week. However, if 771 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: you are consistent, the money will come, the people will come, 772 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 2: and you will feel fulfilled about it. And if you 773 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: were doing this solely for the money, I promise you 774 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: people who have been in this lifestyle longer than you, 775 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 2: who come to you as a client. 776 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: Well, no, you have to really enjoy it. 777 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: It's very easy to spot someone who was doing this 778 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: for survival versus pleasure, right, very easy, and I can 779 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: point it out and that's how bad it's actually gotten. 780 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, damn, Like, you can't go on 781 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: your social media pages complaining that nobody's signing up for 782 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: your services or doing other shit that has nothing related 783 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: to the I mean, granted, I post tiktoks and regular 784 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 2: ship all the time because I like for people to 785 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: see that I'm an actual person outside of this. 786 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: You're showing your personality. 787 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's time for our session, we get into that. 788 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: But people be like, oh, I didn't know you were 789 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: into that. I'm actually into that too, and I'm likely 790 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: then we have a conversation about that. Or in this case, 791 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: I received an email from no I received the application 792 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: of someone I never met. They referred to me by 793 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: a follower that I had never met or interacted with, 794 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: but they chose me to be someone because they trusted 795 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: me and I didn't even know who they were. So 796 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: it's just that you have to watch your presence on 797 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: social media because it can either help you or can 798 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: harm you. That it's I would just say any business 799 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: with any business. Right. Look, if I read a tweet today, 800 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: it was just like, if I'm looking to book a 801 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: service with you, and you're getting smart with me in 802 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: these rules and conditions, I'm not booking. And I feel 803 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: like that is the same way that it should be 804 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: for everything else. Right, people are coming to you, and 805 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 2: they can come to everyone else. And for people who 806 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: say that this industry is oversaturated, there are a lot 807 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 2: of dogs. There are a lot of dogs that look 808 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 2: like me. But you know, whenever you go to the supermarket, 809 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 2: you know what type of bread you want in that aisle. 810 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: You're not just gonna pick any bread, right. 811 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: You know that there's a selection for you. 812 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: So make sure that you come in with individuality and 813 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: be different because everybody has a preference for something. 814 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: Right. 815 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think this was in an amazing conversation. 816 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: I definitely right, I definitely learned a lot. I think 817 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: you did such an amazing job on speaking about being 818 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: a professional dominatrix. And I'm pretty sure this will not 819 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: be the last time we hear from you. So no 820 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: of course listen. You are now a Professional Homegirl, so 821 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: to the listeners. If you have any questions, comments, concerns, 822 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: please make sure to email me at Hello at thepgpodcast 823 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: dot com. And until next time, everyone. 824 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 2: Take care. Thank you so much for having me. 825 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for coming on the show. Later everyone. 826 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: The Professional Homegirl Podcast is a production of the Black 827 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: Effect Podcast Network. 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