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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks

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Speaker 1: off right now. And we know that Hunter Biden got

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Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal from the Department of Justice, from the

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Speaker 1: federal prosecutors that we're looking at him for five years.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Turley wrote a very good op ed

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Speaker 1: on this one, and I've also I saw Tucker's monologue

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Speaker 1: on this on Twitter yesterday and a couple of important

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Speaker 1: points from that one. Think about what went on here.

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Speaker 1: This is from from the Turley op ed. I think

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Speaker 1: it was in New York Post. He says, because there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of this, we covered the main things yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I told you it was going to be deferred prosecution

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Speaker 1: on the felonies, so basically, no felonies, only misdemeanors. Wipe

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Speaker 1: the whole thing away. And now the key is they

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Speaker 1: used this to try to shut down anything looking into

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Speaker 1: the Bidens. More broadly, they're gonna say, we already dealt

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Speaker 1: with that Hunter already faced justice. Sure he did. We

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Speaker 1: know though that that's the plan. But there were a

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Speaker 1: couple of additional details that when Klenaut were on together yesterday,

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Speaker 1: we didn't really dive into. And one of them is,

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Speaker 1: this is again from the Turley op ed, why did

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Speaker 1: it take five years? Five years? They looked at this

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Speaker 1: for five years, and what they came up with was

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Speaker 1: a gun charge that was obvious from the beginning, which

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Speaker 1: they put into a diversion program. A diversion program which

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Speaker 1: is usually for you know, addicts. But Hunter's not an

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Speaker 1: addict anymore, so why does he get this? Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: not his fault. He's an adict, let's put him in

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Speaker 1: a diversion program. It seems kind of strange, right, There's

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Speaker 1: other deferred prosecution agreements that can exist, but generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: this one looks like they set it up like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Hunter's an addicts, so we got to give him SPA treatment.

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Speaker 1: But they gave him special treatment because he's Joe Biden's son,

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Speaker 1: all right, So five years for a misdemeanor failure to

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Speaker 1: file failure to file, right, Okay, that's interesting. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot more they could have gone for. The one though,

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Speaker 1: that is entirely both inexcusable from a legal perspective and

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Speaker 1: politically very potent. You can understand the rationale behind this

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Speaker 1: is the lack of a Farah charge Foreign Agent Registration Act.

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Speaker 1: Now Pharah is this is one of those laws that

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Speaker 1: basically didn't really you know, didn't really get enforced at all.

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Speaker 1: It didn't get enforced at all until Trump came along.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit in that regard like the Logan Act.

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Speaker 1: The Logan Act has not been used in over I

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Speaker 1: think one hundred and fifty years. It's been around for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Has to do with interfering in the

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Speaker 1: foreign policy of the United States, and it goes back

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Speaker 1: to an earlier era where the country was surrounded by Britain, Spain, France,

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Speaker 1: and there were people, individual citizens engaged in machinations with

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Speaker 1: those foreign governments, not on behalf of the United States government. Right,

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Speaker 1: the Logan Act has never been used against anybody, but

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Speaker 1: they dust it at all. Remember this. I think that

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Speaker 1: we often put these things out of our minds because

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Speaker 1: we don't want to believe that this country is turning

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Speaker 1: into a totalitarian, collectivist nightmare. But it is edging in

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Speaker 1: that direction. Year after year, it is taking steps in

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Speaker 1: that I think we have to fight through. Remember what

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Speaker 1: they did to General Flynn. General Flynn was the incoming

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Speaker 1: Nationalsecurity Advisor, and they used the Logan Act. And this

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Speaker 1: was comy, the same comy who had Martha Stewart when

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Speaker 1: he was the prosecutor in Connecticut sent to prison for

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Speaker 1: five months for basically nothing, you know, is lying about

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Speaker 1: a conversation she had about a non criminal activity, which

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Speaker 1: was talking to her stockbroker. That's what happened five months

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Speaker 1: in prison from Martha Stewart. Yeah, but when we look

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Speaker 1: at what they did with Logan Act, they created a

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Speaker 1: legal pretext to go after somebody. And what you realize

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Speaker 1: is that if the authorities want to do that, they

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Speaker 1: can do this with anybody. Think think about how easy

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Speaker 1: it is to to swat someone. What do you do.

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Speaker 1: You call the police and you say, oh, I see somebody.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's got a gun in the house

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Speaker 1: and I'm scared and he's threatening people, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: they go in. This is a horrible thing that it's

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Speaker 1: happened to people, I know in conservative media. Horrible thing

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Speaker 1: where you know, all the cops all come running in

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Speaker 1: and people can die because of this, right well, because

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Speaker 1: massive law enforcement response. That's what swatting somebody is. So

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Speaker 1: that's an abuse of lots of crime. What the DOJ

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Speaker 1: did in the Logan Act situation with General Flynn was

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Speaker 1: they pretended that this was a crime that anybody cares about,

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Speaker 1: so they could entrap him in a conversation with their

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Speaker 1: it's whatever the FBI says, okay, and they took him

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Speaker 1: out that way. Now you look at Paul Manifort, and

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Speaker 1: this is why I'm talking about this. They dust it

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Speaker 1: to go after Manifort. No one had ever think about that.

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Speaker 1: No one in the history of the country had ever

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Speaker 1: gone to prison for a Logan Act violation. I think

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Speaker 1: was thrown out. I mean, it's a joke. They dust

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Speaker 1: it off the Farah and they used it against men.

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Speaker 1: If there was ever a time where there was an

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Speaker 1: open shutcase for a violation of law under Farah, it

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Speaker 1: would be Hunter Biden. He is the son of the

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Speaker 1: Vice President. When he's doing some of this, he is

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Speaker 1: meeting with foreign nationals. He is a bag man taking

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Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars from them, obviously to advance

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Speaker 1: the interests of those foreign governments and foreign nationals. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the most clear and I Tucker, by the way,

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Speaker 1: a brilliant point that Tucker made on his Twitter show yesterday,

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Speaker 1: which was, how's Hunter Biden even supporting himself? I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy, he's got to He's paying twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: a month in child support to the child that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even want to have the Biden name. And he's

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Speaker 1: now won that in court, not not caring the name.

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Speaker 1: He's disavowed this child. That's the kind of guy he is.

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Speaker 1: And so has Joe Biden, the grandfather disavowed the child.

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Speaker 1: Not the child out's fault, but Joe Bidens would make

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Speaker 1: believe Catholic who thinks that abortion all nine months of

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Speaker 1: a pregnancy is you know, a fundamental right. So these

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Speaker 1: people are soulless soulss. That's not a surprise at all.

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Speaker 1: But Chucker makes this point that you have Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: supporting himself, no one even really knows how, and he

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Speaker 1: Hunter's not sitting around you know, opening up Kansas spaghettios

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Speaker 1: in a four hundred square foot studio. This sounds like

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Speaker 1: me in Manhattan, like a few years back, but you know,

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Speaker 1: in some tiny studio, just making making. He's living in,

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Speaker 1: you know, a mansion in Malibu, and he's driving around

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Speaker 1: Hunter's living really well. And then you go, oh, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The paintings, the paintings, and there's no interest in looking

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Speaker 1: you see them, they really do look like something that

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Speaker 1: a toddler in the third grade would do with a paintbrush.

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Speaker 1: No offense when the toddler's out, or I guess you're

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you know, painting and painting

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Speaker 1: and selling them for fifty thousand dollars for prints. And

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Tucker thing on Twitter. I said

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Speaker 1: CNN when they still had conservatives on in say twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: that the Clinton Foundation. I can't believe it's eight years

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Speaker 1: ago now. The Clinton Foundation was a scam. It was

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Speaker 1: a pass through fake charity that gave tax advantage donations

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Speaker 1: for the Clintons to support their lifestyle and their brand

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Speaker 1: and to run effectively a super pack under the guys

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Speaker 1: to charity. And I always said, you know you're paying

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a speech. Bill got paid I think at

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Speaker 1: not getting paid for a speed when it was by

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Speaker 1: a Russian bank. That's a bribe. Why do you think

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Speaker 1: North Korea at one point had an inquiry remember this

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Speaker 1: about either Bill or Hillary speaking for a fee. It's

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Speaker 1: a bribe. And they were trying to do this over

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Speaker 1: and over again from countries that were so unacceptable that

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Speaker 1: I mean they made personally one hundred million dollars off

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Speaker 1: hard to do books that nobody buys and speeches that

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Speaker 1: nobody remembers. But my point in this is that I

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Speaker 1: used to say, I said, well, what if Hillary said, oh,

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Speaker 1: because that's how Hillary sounds. And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: she's saying her paintings are worth a million dollars each

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Speaker 1: or something, and and only foreign buyers are buying them, right,

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Speaker 1: only like the Saudis, the Russians, the Chinese are buying

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Speaker 1: Hillary's foreign paintings and a million dollars apiece. That's not

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Speaker 1: that is what Hunter Biden is doing. Oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: a painter, now, sure you are, buddy. The whole thing

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Speaker 1: is is as corrupt as it gets. And this is

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Speaker 1: the problem for the Democrats. There's no turning back for

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Speaker 1: That's really what they think. Trump is a criminal, is

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Speaker 1: what they always say. And if there's just enough of

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Speaker 1: the public that recognizes that, what is a bigger threat.

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Speaker 1: What is honestly, as an American, a bigger threat to

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Speaker 1: your sense of the government as working in your interests.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump having some boxes of documents in a you know,

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Speaker 1: of all, they're both criminal. Right now, you could say,

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Speaker 1: but it's criminal in the way that you know, a

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Speaker 1: the case. But one of them doesn't matter to you,

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Speaker 1: and the other does. One of them actually has an

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Speaker 1: effect on what the likely course of US policy is,

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Speaker 1: and the other is a document dispute. But they they

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Speaker 1: bring the one charge with the fullest force of the

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Speaker 1: law against Trump, and with Hunter Biden, they make the

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Speaker 1: whole thing disappear. Remember this, they're trying to shut down

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Speaker 1: everything around the Biden crime family because it is a

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Speaker 1: real risk. With the whistleblower who's come forward with the

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Speaker 1: information about this. We can see what's going on, and

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Speaker 1: they only seem they only seem interested in the law

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Speaker 1: when it is a weapon against Republicans. And I don't

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Speaker 1: just meaning politically in general. You know someone's a criminal,

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Speaker 1: someone's done terrible things. Oh, let's let's give him another chance.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're a Republican. If you're a Republican and you

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Speaker 1: know you have doc never your former president, you're a

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Speaker 1: Republican and you commit jaywalking, they start screaming, the law

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Speaker 1: is the law. If you're a Democrat and you're running

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Speaker 1: around getting paid fifty thousand dollars for reproductions of crappy

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Speaker 1: artwork that are obvious efforts to try to curry influence

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Speaker 1: and try to get bribery going for the Biden crime family.

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Speaker 1: On top of the millions set aside in LLC's, on

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Speaker 5: From the report, I gathered that key FBI leaders, all

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Speaker 1: apparatus should get a little pushback that Merrick Garland. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the rank and file of the FBI. Look, some

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Speaker 1: of them are bad, some of them are good. It's like

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Speaker 1: any organization. It's like people ask you about the CIA.

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Speaker 1: There are amazing people in the CIA, and I know

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Speaker 1: that you think all of your it's like a deep

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Speaker 1: state buck thing to say, no, there are great people

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Speaker 1: who work there. I know some great people who work there,

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Speaker 1: so I speak of what I know. But there are

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Speaker 1: also scum. There's scum who works there, and they're a

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Speaker 1: leftists who managed to work their way up through the bureaucracy.

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Speaker 1: And if the institution, if the people who control It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like Disney, right, we know that Disney has

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Speaker 1: been overtaken by the wokeness at the top level. Does

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Speaker 1: every you know, does everyone who works Does the guy

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Speaker 1: work in the concession stand or putting on the costume

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Speaker 1: or whatever at Disney World? Is he a woke live. No,

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Speaker 1: it's a guy or girl trying to get a paycheck,

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Speaker 1: trying to do a job. It's about the leadership and

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Speaker 1: how that filters down through the whole structure. And this

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Speaker 1: is what I thought this was important. John Durham says

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Speaker 1: that he has had FBI agents come to him and

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Speaker 1: say they are sorry for what the They didn't do anything,

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Speaker 1: but they are sorry for what the bureau did play.

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Speaker 3: For I have had any number of FBI agents who

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Speaker 3: some are still in place, who have come to me

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Speaker 3: and apologize for the manner in which that investigation was undertaken.

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Speaker 5: I take that seriously.

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Speaker 3: He's a good, hard working majority of people than the FBI.

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Speaker 3: Decent human beings swear under their oldes to abide by

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Speaker 3: the law and the like, and I think that that typifies,

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Speaker 3: exemplilize of.

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Speaker 1: The concern here.

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Speaker 3: There are investigative activities undertaken or not undertaken here which

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Speaker 3: raised real concerns about whatether or not the law was followed,

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Speaker 3: the policies in place the FBI were followed.

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Speaker 1: So I think he says the well, there there were

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Speaker 1: failures because of ideology there were deep state actors in

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Speaker 1: the FBI. It's not all of the FBI. And so

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Speaker 1: now you get to a very difficult question, and it's

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Speaker 1: one that we face in a whole range of institutions.

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Speaker 1: And somebody even say, you know political parties these days,

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Speaker 1: which is when an institution has corruption of its core

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Speaker 1: purpose at the very top, is your obligation to stay

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Speaker 1: and defend the good people that still remain and try

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Speaker 1: to take power back, or is your obligation to leave

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Speaker 1: and argue for its dissolution. So if someone's been the FBI,

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Speaker 1: for example, for ten or fifteen years, they're at that,

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Speaker 1: you know, mid mid level management, mid upper management level.

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Speaker 1: Right you say, oh, well, if you're a patriot, you

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Speaker 1: you would take you would take action, you would resign.

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Speaker 1: People will tell me this, how could you even work there?

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Speaker 1: People have said this to me about the CIA, How

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Speaker 1: could you ever worked the CIA? I look at them

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Speaker 1: and I say, I joined the CIA because I watched

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Speaker 1: an attack on my hometown, on my city, on my

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Speaker 1: country on nine to eleven, and I wanted to go

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Speaker 1: do whatever I could to help find those Al Kaida

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Speaker 1: pieces of filth and help our operators and our airmen

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Speaker 1: and everybody else just drop bombs on them. That's what

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Speaker 1: I wanted. That was the goal when it was it wasn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, to get involved in crossfire, hurricane, There wasn't

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Speaker 1: to go after Trumparty this stuff. No, So people join

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Speaker 1: these institutions often for reasons that all of us would support.

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Speaker 1: And it's a tough question, though, do you stay behind

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Speaker 1: I mean, even mirrors did the discussion that Clay and

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Speaker 1: I often have about professional sports. I mean, I joke around,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little self deprecating about it, but I professional sports.

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Speaker 1: I just I couldn't do it anymore, couldn't support them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with some exceptions, and I'm not perfect in this.

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Speaker 1: So if you ever see me like watching a you know,

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Speaker 1: a tennis match or something. I mean, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that I swear it all off, but the NBA, in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, I'm basically I'm done with it. I just

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Speaker 1: won't do it anymore. Clay takes the position he loves

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Speaker 1: sports so much, he cares so much about what it

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Speaker 1: means for the country that he refuses to let the

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Speaker 1: woke virus take over the whole host and ruin the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Those are both valid points of view. And

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Speaker 1: when you look at an institution like the FBI, you

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Speaker 1: say to yourself, what do we do? What do the

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Speaker 1: good people inside do? What's their obligation with the best

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Speaker 1: interests of the country in mind as well as their

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Speaker 1: own integrity and honorant And I know we need changes

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Speaker 1: at the top. But when people talk about defunding the FBI,

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Speaker 1: I say, okay, AOC was saying defund Immigration and Customs Enforcement,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever? You know what shut that down? Which

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Speaker 1: is a crazy idea that ICE isn't even allowed to

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Speaker 1: ICE is a welcoming committee now for legal immigrants. But

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Speaker 1: but what shut it down? Is it? A was? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you just have to build a new one. So

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Speaker 1: unless we think we're going to defund the FBI entirely

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Speaker 1: and not have a federal law enforcement agency like it

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Speaker 1: or give remember there's still atf there's all these do

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Speaker 1: we get do we defund all of them? I don't

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Speaker 1: have all the answers on this. I just know that

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Speaker 1: now we're in a fight to figure out what we

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Speaker 5: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 1: Now, this is a good one. You got Riley Gaines

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Speaker 1: who speaks out here. There's a Senate You all know Riley,

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Speaker 1: she's been on the show before. She is the actual

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Speaker 1: Women's Freestyle NCAA champion from well it wasn't this year,

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Speaker 1: it was last year. But she technically in that uh

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Speaker 1: in that competition lost to a biological male. Uh. Leah

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Speaker 1: Thomas and Riley is on uh. Well, she's on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill today and she's been speaking about this issue. So interesting.

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Speaker 1: There's the Senate is calling forward different experts. I want

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Speaker 1: you to hear.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: There is a Democrat witness here for this Senate committee

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Speaker 1: looking into this. I'm trying to find the name of

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Speaker 1: the it's the Protecting Pride Here you go. Gaines spoke

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Speaker 1: rights of LGBTQ plus Americans. So you've got different witnesses

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Speaker 1: being called the democrat. Witness is the first voice that

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Speaker 1: you will hear here, and then you'll hear Riley on

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Speaker 1: this play play that cut.

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Speaker 3: Guys, that a biological male has a physical advantage in

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Speaker 3: sports over a biological female.

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Speaker 1: Not as a definitive statement. Give me an example.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, I don't think how.

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Speaker 3: Many female members of the NBA do you see?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: I can say that, you know, there's been this news

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Speaker 4: article about men that think that they could beat Serena

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Speaker 4: Williams in tennis, right, that they think that they could

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Speaker 4: actually score.

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Speaker 1: A point on her, And it's just not the case.

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Speaker 3: She is stronger than what's your experience being male female?

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Speaker 4: Both Serena and Venus lost to the two hundred and

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Speaker 4: third ranked male tennis player. What's they're phenoms for women?

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Speaker 4: My experience? My husband he swam at University of Kentucky

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Speaker 4: as well, in terms of accolades and in terms of

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Speaker 4: national ranking. I was a much better swimmer than him.

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Speaker 4: He could kick my butt any day of the week.

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Speaker 1: How are we even having this conversation?

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Speaker 3: Is?

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Speaker 1: I feel like the constant thought that runs through everyone's minds,

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Speaker 1: men have and advantage over women. Men have an advantage

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Speaker 1: over women when it comes to strength and speed, and

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about here are trained athletes in the

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Speaker 1: field at issue. Right, So yeah, could some guy who

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Speaker 1: doesn't play tennis beat Serremnuilliams in tennis? No, of course not.

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Speaker 1: But if you're talking about at the at the peak

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Speaker 1: of competition nc DOUBLEA Division one professional level, even NCUBA

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Speaker 1: level three, you know division three schools, men are going

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Speaker 1: to destroy. Men who think they're women are going to

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Speaker 1: destroy women's sports because it makes a mockery of the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Right, if we didn't have gender separated sports,

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Speaker 1: we would not have any professional female athletes at all

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Speaker 1: anywhere period. Think of it that way. If we didn't

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Speaker 1: have men's and women's soccer, would a single woman on

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Speaker 1: the planet make a national team? No, the answer is no,

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Speaker 1: We all know it. But these you know, they've called

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Speaker 1: this expert witness. He goes, Oh, you can't categorically say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know why, how are you

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Speaker 1: even supposed to deal with this level of lunacy because

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Speaker 1: you could find some exception? I mean, is is it

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Speaker 1: is it discrimination to think that you know, you build

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Speaker 1: you build helmets, you know you have one helmet per

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Speaker 1: a helicopter, let's say the military or whatever. Right is

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Speaker 1: it discrimination that one helmet? Well, well, there is such

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Speaker 1: a thing as conjoined twins, and you could have, you know,

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Speaker 1: a person who has two heads. So it is assuming

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Speaker 1: that you know, when you have a head rest on

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Speaker 1: your airplane, it's for one head, But you could have

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Speaker 1: a person that has one body and two heads. So

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Speaker 1: you see how crazy this gets. Yeah, you can always

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Speaker 1: find some exception. I think conjoined twins is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: a one in ten million or something. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: statistically super super rare. But we can't make policy based

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Speaker 1: off one in a billion or one in ten million.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. And in this case, they're being willfully ignorant.

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Speaker 1: They're pretending the Libs on this transsports issue are pretending

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Speaker 1: way they can continue to advance the argument. Every one

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Speaker 1: of us as we sit here and we say, you know,

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Speaker 1: can't we all see this? I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: they're deep in the cult. I honestly think that they're

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Speaker 1: a lot. Something like twenty or thirty percent of Americans.

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Speaker 1: All Democrats are like men don't have a biological advantage

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Speaker 1: over women in sports. No one is so dumb. They

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Speaker 1: believe that right, But no, I guess some libs are

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Speaker 3: Four