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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Dave Pash, ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play by

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Speaker 1: play announcer. Today, I sit down and talk with ubiquitous

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Speaker 1: Adam Shine. He hosts so many different shows on several

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Speaker 1: Adam Shine Podcast and as a columnist for NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: We talked today about all things National Football League, in

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Speaker 1: particular the Arizona Cardinals. Does he think Kyler Murray is

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Speaker 1: a legit MVP candidate, What about Cliff Kingsbury as a

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year possibility, and whether the Cardinals at

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Speaker 1: nine and two are truly the best team in the

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Speaker 1: my conversation with Adam Shine. So, Adam, I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: Steve Kine the other day after the game Sunday and

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Speaker 1: he says, who do you got on the podcast this week?

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Speaker 1: And I say, Adam Shine, And man does he light up.

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Speaker 1: He starts imitating you. He's all fired up that you're

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Speaker 1: on the show. You are nationally one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: Cardinals supporters, and you have been for a while. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with that. Tell me why, because I think the

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Speaker 1: Cardinal's top to bottom are fantastic. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: when you look at what makes a great organization, I

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Speaker 1: think it first starts within owner, right, and you have

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Speaker 1: to have a great owner. The Cardinals check that box.

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Speaker 1: And you have to have a great general manager. And

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Speaker 1: I think the world is Steve. And you know, he's smart, thoughtful,

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Speaker 1: great people, great commitment to winning. You know, you think

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Speaker 1: they do everything right. The Arizona Cardinals do everything right.

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Speaker 1: how the Cardinals draft. I I'm just a huge fan

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Speaker 1: And I just think it's so impressive. The stadium's great.

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Speaker 1: everything about Arizona Cardinals football. Well, I get asked a lot,

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Speaker 1: I've lost my hair. You somehow have added it. How

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Speaker 1: For as much as you're on camera as a play

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Speaker 1: was twenty. But the Cardinals Adam going into their bye week,

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Cardinals are the best team in

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Speaker 1: I love taking calls and I love listening, and it's

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Speaker 1: you're right though. The timing was perfect. And you know,

426
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: also for me starting in Syracuse and doing a show

427
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: in Syracuse and learning how to do a show, you know,

428
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Speaker 1: at wh I get a postgame show for Syracuse football

429
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: and basketball, and there was a great immediacy and learning

430
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Speaker 1: how to do that. So that that was really huge

431
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Speaker 1: for me in terms of my development and my path

432
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: and you know, going from from Syracuse in college and

433
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: wr to you know, professor those stations and then going

434
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: with the rest of my career. A couple more football questions,

435
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: Adam and then we'll get you out of here. Seattle

436
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals just beat them. It felt to me going into

437
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: the game like that was more than just a big

438
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: game for this season. It felt like, well, Pete Carroll

439
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: retire if things don't go well this year. Russell Wilson

440
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: wanted out when they were winning eleven twelve games a year.

441
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: What's going to happen when they win five or six?

442
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: How do you feel about where the Seahawks are Do

443
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: you think the Seahawks are done? In terms of the

444
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: Seahawks that we've known the last decade or so. Absolutely done.

445
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: And I agree with your assessment. And you know, Dave,

446
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy to me that the Seahawks won

447
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: the division last year like that. That doesn't even translate

448
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: to me in terms of talent. And I actually thought,

449
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: and it's easy for me to say with a microphone,

450
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: but I was right. I would have broken it down

451
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: if I was running the Seahawks this passed off season,

452
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: because I felt like last year, even making the playoffs

453
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 1: within the division a fluke. And you look at the

454
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: rosters of the Cardinals, the forty nine ers and the Rams,

455
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: Seattle doesn't compare. And you know, I don't want to

456
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: call what the Seahawks did a dynasty, but it was

457
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of a mini dynasty, you know, Seattle with Pete

458
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Carroll and John Schneider and Russell Wilson, that was a

459
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: machine and they deserve a ton of credit for what

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Speaker 1: they did. Now I think it's over. I think it's

461
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: been over. I think you know, the snapshot, Frankly, was

462
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Speaker 1: the week before when DK metcalf is going ballistic in

463
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay, and you know, the team gets shut out.

464
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: But I think I jumped in a week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the snapshot was Cope McCoy going into Seattle and beating

466
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks in front of the Twelfth Man, Like I

467
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: that was noteworthy, and then Pete walking out of his

468
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: press conference, it felt like a bit of a changing

469
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: of the guard. And I mean I said preseason the

470
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks in last place that you can imagine the reaction

471
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: I got from from Seahawks fans. But you know that

472
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: that proved to be ahead of the curve. I think

473
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: that Pizza Hall of Fame coach college pros, I mean,

474
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: he's he's fantastic. I love John Schneider. I think they've

475
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: really boxed the draft the last few years. I think

476
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: they should have traded Russ this past offseason, even with

477
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: the cap hit, because I mean it was over. I

478
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: mean the whole let Russ cook and Russ doesn't get

479
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: an MVP boat and that you know, Russ trades all that.

480
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: And I love Russ, right, but you know a lot

481
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: of it is about him and Pete wants to run

482
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: the ball and there's been a divide there for a

483
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: long time. So I think it's over in Seattle. And

484
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: this is definitely putting you on the spot because it's

485
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: hard to answer this. I can't answer this right now,

486
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: but if you had to guess, where do you think

487
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, Kyler Murray finishes in

488
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: the MVP race because we still have obviously six games left.

489
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: All right, let me first give you a pet peeve. Okay,

490
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: and I I'm sure at some point I'm gonna get

491
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: thrown off of voting because I'm very I annoy the

492
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: hell out of Barry Wildon. It drives me nuts, and

493
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: Kyler is a great, great name to attach to this.

494
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, we only vote for one person, and it's

495
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: so dumb. It's the it's it's asina. Wait, hold on,

496
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: hold on, because I do the NBA voting, so you're

497
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: one of the NFL voters. So we have to pick

498
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: five guys for MVP, five different guys, and you pick one.

499
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: There's no runner up, there's no third. Okay. I'm so

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00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: glad and I love that you asked us. I love

501
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: and I love that you're in the NFL and don't

502
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: even know this because nobody knows this because no one

503
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: wants to advertise it. I go nuts on this because

504
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: of the whole Russell Wilson MVP stuff. Russell Wilson has

505
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: never received a vote because he's never been the MVP.

506
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: If you could vote for three guys a year, of

507
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: course Russell Wilson would have an MVP vote one one name.

508
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: And it's awful because, as an example, if Kyler Murray

509
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: comes back after the buy and he is on fire

510
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: and leads the Cardinals to let's say the one seed,

511
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: right like, that's the ultimate Kyler Murray MVP scenario. I mean,

512
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: we have to see what Jonathan Taylor does. You know?

513
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: There's a hot name. Let's see what Tom Brady does.

514
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: You know? I think Kyler if I'm if I'm doing

515
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: a list for MVP and I'm you know who Justin Herbert,

516
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: is he going to end up being in the mix.

517
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: That's why it's impossible for me to answer the question

518
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: because of the voting process. It's awful. I wish and

519
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: I Barry's response Barry Wilder, who is the head of

520
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: the Associated Press under his watch, he does not want

521
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: someone with more second place votes to win the award.

522
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: I understand that part of it, you know, and I

523
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: do too. Like Coach of the Year for NBA last year,

524
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: Monnie Williams is who I voted for ye, Tom Thibodeau

525
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: wont it, and you could have made a case for Tibbs, Sure,

526
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: but I think Tibbs had so many more of like

527
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: the second and third place. I think that was one

528
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I want it. So sorry to

529
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: cut you off there, but I could see why he

530
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: would want it that way because I don't want someone

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Speaker 1: I've even encountered Dave with this idea. I mean, I'm

532
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: pretty passionate about this. Make it like a ten four

533
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: one weighted system, so not even ten five one, where

534
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: if you get a second place vote, you get four points.

535
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: First place vote you get ten, third place you get one.

536
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: So there's still more weight and more emphasis on getting

537
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: that first place vote. So you know right now, I

538
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: mean if you can't, you can't name it, you don't

539
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: get half a trophy, right So it's it's if it

540
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm going in circles or frustrated and even

541
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: answering your question, it's because you know, midway point of

542
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: the season, I would have said it's Lamar Jackson, Tom Brady.

543
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Those are my top two, not my projection, but the

544
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: mid season MVP. I thank Kyler has it. There's no

545
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: clear cut favorite at the quarterback position for MVP. I

546
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: think if Jonathan Taylor runs the Colts into the playoffs,

547
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: I think he has a realistic chance. But if Kyler

548
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: lights the league on fire and the Cardinals get the

549
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: one seed, my goodness, it's gonna be difficult. And one thing,

550
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to hear AUNTI Kyler, Well,

551
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: hold on, Colt McCoy won those games, because that's gonna

552
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: be when you start nickpicking for one vote, Well, how

553
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: could you vote Kyler because Colte McCoy What? Well, I

554
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: would argue that a credit cult and be credit Cliff Kingsman,

555
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: because I'm telling you they're gonna be voters. They're gonna

556
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: be people like I say, you can't vote for Kyler

557
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: because Colte McCoy won those games, That to me is

558
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: garbage and nonsense. All right, Last one, do you have

559
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: a most memorable on air moment or a string? It

560
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: can be because people ask me, hey, what's your you know,

561
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: the moment that sticks with you, and you know, people

562
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: assume that maybe it's something with Bill Walton or Ron

563
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Wolfley or you know. I've worked with Hall of Fame

564
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: coaches players, but the one that always sticks with me

565
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: is when I got punched in the face on air

566
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: when I was working in Detroit as an update guy.

567
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Though I got into it with the host. It was

568
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: a sports argument and while I'm doing the update, he

569
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: punched me dead in the face. Now, I got up

570
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: at him and finished the update. So that's something right there.

571
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't stop. I got up and finished

572
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: the update. What was the argument was this? What was

573
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: the eye? I don't even remember. I mean, it was

574
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: just a typical, you know, discussion on the air, but

575
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: he didn't like it, and he took it off the air,

576
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I guess, and decided to try to settle it while

577
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: I was in the air by punching me dead in

578
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: the face. But do you have I'm not I'm not saying,

579
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, try to come up with something like that.

580
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. But is there anything that sticks with

581
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: you when people ask you like greatest interview or greatest

582
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: moment that you've had or strangest. Well, I'll give you

583
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: a couple just quickly on on greatest, just in terms

584
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: of like in moment feelum. My first super Bowl for CBS,

585
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: we did a Monday QB show. It was in New

586
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: Orleans and New Orleans super Bowl and you know, we're

587
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: right across from Cafe Dumont doing a show, a Monday

588
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: QB show, and I'm sitting there where Da Marino and

589
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Phil Simms and Rich Gannon and Steve Burline. And it

590
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: was my first time I did a show for CBS

591
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: on remote, and like the crowd was going nuts, and

592
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: it was one of those like wow, like it was

593
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: just ridiculously cool, like in moment. In terms of radio,

594
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: and you know, there are so many amazing interviews and

595
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: moments and Super Bowl shows radio row. There's nothing like

596
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: the day after a champion is crown. There's nothing like

597
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: interacting with a fan base, especially when it's a team

598
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: that hasn't won. Like I'll never forget the day after

599
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: the Cubs won the World Series or when the Cavaliers

600
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: won a championship. Like those are's like the most like

601
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: grown men and women crying on the air, you know,

602
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: wall to wall conversation, just getting the chills and you know,

603
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: talking about loved one who aren't around anymore, who would

604
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: have loved like you know, those are some of the

605
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: most special special shows. Of course, now that I'm saying this,

606
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: there was one moment when the Red Sox won a

607
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: World Series. And I'm a diehardy Yankee fan, and you know,

608
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: every time the Yankees win a game, even the regular season,

609
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: we always play, you know, the New York New York

610
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: have a little fun with it coming out of a

611
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: break and a Red Sox fan is a regular caller

612
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: and a real pain in the ass who I love.

613
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: And he made me sing Sweet Caroline and it was

614
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: it was great radio, and I was like, never again.

615
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: But that those those shows after a championship are there's

616
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: just a there's a there's a cadence to it, there's

617
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: a beat, there's a fun quotient, there's the emotion. It's

618
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: why you love sports. I love those shows. Do you

619
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: pinch yourself sometimes? Because I certainly do, Like I never

620
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: take for granted when I'm sitting next to a player

621
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: or a coach that is in the Hall of Fame

622
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: or will be in the Hall of Fame. I think,

623
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to just kind of I think

624
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: if you're some on the outside looking, just assume that

625
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: you know, we're not geeking out too, you know, sitting there.

626
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: So you're talking about sitting next to Dan Marino and

627
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: some of these guys. I'm sure for you it's similar

628
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: to me, and that you appreciate the opportunity to because

629
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: you'll learn so much from just interacting with these guys

630
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: that have seen it and done it at the highest level.

631
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: I never take that for granted. It's you know, I

632
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: I love it. And you know, in terms of learning,

633
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: that's you know, whether it's on air off air, I

634
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm such a geek for that, you know,

635
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, listening to Phil Simms talk

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Speaker 1: those moments with all these great analysts because you're right,

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Speaker 1: questions to maximize them. I mean, it's it's a great

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Speaker 1: for granted. And I'm listening, man, I'm so happy for

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Speaker 1: your success. You're great at what you do. You're so entertaining,

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Speaker 1: and I know Cardinal fans will be excited to have

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Speaker 1: listened to this, and we'll look forward to following you

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Speaker 1: and all the all the things you do and all

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Speaker 1: the platforms you're on. Brother, appreciate the time, Oh Dave. Likewise, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm throwed for your success. I love hearing you on

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals games and on the ESPN and all the

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Speaker 1: great great games you've called, and all the different sports.

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Speaker 1: I mean the NBA. I love your NBA call. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So I'm thrilled for you and I'm honored to be

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. My friend, Thanks Brother day Day. So

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Speaker 1: much great stuff there from Adam Shine. We could have

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Speaker 1: about the NFL that we didn't get to. But I

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Speaker 1: love hearing Adam's opinion on the Cardinals. He's long been

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Speaker 1: a Cardinal supporter, big fan of Michael Bidwell and Steve Kime.

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Speaker 1: He was very honest, says Kyler Murray could be MVP

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Speaker 1: if it continues to play this way, but because there's

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Speaker 1: only one vote that's talied per person that he's not

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Speaker 1: sure that Kyler will win it because of some of

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Speaker 1: have to see if Kyler's back for the Chicago Bears game.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff on the rest of the NFC, on the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, the Rams, and potential contenders outside the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. We are presented by Ben MGM,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals quarterback Colt McCoy can't wait for you to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Adam Shine on today's Dave Pash

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