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Speaker 1: The black count are more frequent now, they last longer.
Speaker 1: That's why you left this message for yourself, Julian, to
Speaker 1: help you remember. First thing I need you to do.
Speaker 1: Start the car. You need to drive. Never mind the fog.
Speaker 1: Visibility is going to be shipped for a while, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Just head north and don't stop. No matter what. You
Speaker 1: should have at least a half tank, so just drive,
Speaker 1: drive until the fall breaks, and hopefully you will do it.
Speaker 1: Must be done while you're still able to hit rewind,
Speaker 1: go all the way back, then play it, all of it.
Speaker 1: We have some breaking news. The Manowa County Sheriff's Department
Speaker 1: said they found I'm an identified human remains in the
Speaker 1: Appalachian Mountain three days an investigation not to the Erica
Speaker 1: and there two they had permission to be here or
Speaker 1: if they were trespassing a ghost in the the boys
Speaker 1: bodies were lying here in a million door. Remains of
Speaker 1: the comment. Hadley and Deacon Hadley, the twin brothers who
Speaker 1: were reported missing on May nineteen, along with a third boy,
Speaker 1: James m Okay. Here goes Today's July thirty, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Planet Earth, Cold Spring, New York. To be exact, this
Speaker 1: is Julian Salisome, thirty three. I'm a writer, well, an
Speaker 1: aspiring writer, nothing published yet. Maybe this will be the one. Um,
Speaker 1: they say, right, Well, you know, well, this is a story.
Speaker 1: I know this is personal, but it isn't an easy
Speaker 1: one to tell. Matter of fact, I've been trying to
Speaker 1: block it out ever since I left home fourteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Like my mother used to say, sometimes the only way
Speaker 1: to get to the other side of the mountain is
Speaker 1: to go through it. So I guess I'll start there.
Speaker 1: It was May May eighteenth, two thousand and seven, the
Speaker 1: Hadley brothers, two seventeen year old twins from a prominent
Speaker 1: and wealthy family in Maniwa County, went missing it was
Speaker 1: the night before high school graduation. They were found ten
Speaker 1: days later. The bodies were retreated from inside the mouth
Speaker 1: of a cave, along with their cell phones, which contained
Speaker 1: haunting audio and grainy images clues to what had happened.
Speaker 1: I say, clues, clues fucking so so stupid, scoopy, fucking
Speaker 1: do clues come on? Julian Okay? Starting over? All right?
Speaker 1: So um okay? Based on their self Based on their
Speaker 1: cell phone records, witness testimonies in the Corners report, it
Speaker 1: was likely just after midnight the time of death. Another
Speaker 1: boy went missing that day two, James Fincher, we called
Speaker 1: him Finch. Finch came from a multiracial family. His mother
Speaker 1: was black, his father part Latino and part Cherokee. At
Speaker 1: the time of the Havley killings, Finch was only eighteen
Speaker 1: years old. Today he's thirty two, and he's on death
Speaker 1: row away in execution for the murder of the Haveley boys,
Speaker 1: a double homicide in the first degree. But Finch didn't
Speaker 1: do it. Okay. August first, twenty twenty one, just left
Speaker 1: New York. I'm driving back to Manua County today. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go back. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: any of this. Hell, I didn't even go back for
Speaker 1: my own father's funeral. And you know what, I was
Speaker 1: okay with that, because the part of me that was
Speaker 1: born and raised in Manowa County died there too. As
Speaker 1: far as I was concerned, I thought i'd put man
Speaker 1: to walk behind me for good. But I got a
Speaker 1: call about a week ago. Usually don't pick up, but
Speaker 1: it was an eight six to five area code. Someone
Speaker 1: from home. Hello, Julian, Julian Tallis Yeah, Da Dana Benherm,
Speaker 1: Dana Hey has how how are you? It's been a
Speaker 1: long time, fourteen years. Yeah, I'm calling to let you
Speaker 1: know about James. Yeah, yeah, how's how's the uh? I mean,
Speaker 1: it has been set for the execution. I thought you
Speaker 1: might want to know. We're almost out of time now,
Speaker 1: so it ain't looking great. I'll be honest. Look, I
Speaker 1: know it's been a long time, Julian, and you've moved
Speaker 1: on from all this, but we haven't. Okay. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't want to call you, but I got
Speaker 1: no choice here. I need your help, okay, with what
Speaker 1: the appeal. I need you to make a statement. I
Speaker 1: need you to tell the truth about what happened. I
Speaker 1: can only imagine how fucked up it would be to
Speaker 1: witness in execution. No thanks, I'm not interested in watching
Speaker 1: James Fincher die. But I would come back even if
Speaker 1: Dana Fincher hadn't called, because I have no choice. I
Speaker 1: started waking up from bad dreams drenched in sweat, and
Speaker 1: these nightmares are happening more frequently. I'm I'm hearing things too, Voices.
Speaker 1: They were quiet at first, they were like whispers and
Speaker 1: the static, but the getting louder, and I'm getting I
Speaker 1: don't know, flashes like a fever. Dream images looping through
Speaker 1: my brain between my waking hours, reliving ship from my childhood,
Speaker 1: shift from my past that either forgotten were buried from.
Speaker 1: There was a long before the nightmares began warming their
Speaker 1: way into my waking moments. The leaky fawsett in my
Speaker 1: kitchen started dripping so loud it drowned out the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, like the droplets were sliding off salad
Speaker 1: tights and splashing into cating pools below. And then there
Speaker 1: was the sleep walking. The first time it happened, I
Speaker 1: woke up in the middle of the night to find
Speaker 1: myself back in a suitcase. The next night, I came
Speaker 1: to I was bought ass naked in the kitchen cark.
Speaker 1: He's clutched in my hand. Time after that, I was
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat in my car, jabbing the key
Speaker 1: repeatedly into the dashboard, just shy the imission. Then a
Speaker 1: couple of nights ago, I actually got the car halfway
Speaker 1: down the block before I realized what was happening. So,
Speaker 1: you see, it got to the point where I figured
Speaker 1: I was coming back to Maniwau County. Whether I wanted
Speaker 1: to or not. It seemed to hell a lot safer
Speaker 1: to be conscious for the ride. It's another reason I'm
Speaker 1: documenting this trip. After each blackout, I'll lose hours of memory.
Speaker 1: Willson Mechanical Solutions a stylis. I've known Tyler since I
Speaker 1: was little. We grew up together. Who was one of
Speaker 1: those guys the teachers wrote off as a burnout, but
Speaker 1: who in reality just never bought in. I looked him up.
Speaker 1: He's a repair man now, lives in the woods on
Speaker 1: the outskirts of Maniwa County, outside of possible. Hey, todd Um,
Speaker 1: it's as Juliana. Julie. Yeah, you gotta be fucking kidding me.
Speaker 1: M hmm, Well, holy God damn Julian fucking Solace. Huh
Speaker 1: it's me. Well to what do I owe the pleasure? Uh?
Speaker 1: I was hoping this will be your number. Well, you
Speaker 1: gotta ride bet it is. Yeah. So when you're getting here, what,
Speaker 1: how do you know? I wasn't you might be coming
Speaker 1: back soon, circumstances being what they are, Tyler as um,
Speaker 1: I was hoping. Uh oh, I was hoping, hoping. Come on,
Speaker 1: say what you need. Don't be shotting now, motherfucker. I
Speaker 1: need to go back to the whole unless that's too much.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'll be able to find
Speaker 1: my way back. It's been so long with Tyler. Tyler,
Speaker 1: you're here, okay? Are you sure? Yeah? No, it's cool.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. August second. The air smells like rust
Speaker 1: and Decayne leaves an asphalt after the rain. It stirs
Speaker 1: old thoughts and feelings. It feels haunted. There's something daunting
Speaker 1: about the roads into the Great Smokies, a sub range
Speaker 1: of Appalachia hiding in the corner of Tennessee, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: He got roadside warnings that say dense fog likely These
Speaker 1: mountains are ancient and mysterious. Oldest Mountain range on earth.
Speaker 1: They crouched low, like they're huddled against you, secretive, covered
Speaker 1: in old growth forests. Everything is shadow and missed, and
Speaker 1: the fog gets denser the closer I come. It was
Speaker 1: only after I crossed the county line that the fog lifted,
Speaker 1: like mana walk itself had pulled back the curtain for
Speaker 1: another show. Pottsville is the town I grew up in.
Speaker 1: It's nestled in the heart of the county, and it
Speaker 1: hasn't changed one bit since I left. Still small and poor.
Speaker 1: Most folks still find work in the paper mill a
Speaker 1: few towns over, or if they're good at bullshit, and
Speaker 1: they might get a job at Hadley Chevrolet. If you
Speaker 1: were lucky. That's where you weren't my father did. He
Speaker 1: ran the mechanic shop of the dealership. Anyway, People here
Speaker 1: are poor, most of them double wides and dogs running loose,
Speaker 1: the rusted husks of cars on cinder blocks. The main
Speaker 1: drag is lined with abandoned and decaying two story mid
Speaker 1: century brick buildings, weird antique and second hand shops. A
Speaker 1: hardware store started with American flags, and of course the
Speaker 1: Lord of First Baptist Church, a fundamental stronghold in the
Speaker 1: center circle. I shall not want, oh man. This is
Speaker 1: Reverend Perkins from First Baptist and many to lie down
Speaker 1: in green pastures. Man likes the sound of his own
Speaker 1: voice so much he records every damn one of his
Speaker 1: own sermons and posts them on the church website. Thomas
Speaker 1: and Deacons, friends and family grapple with their deaths. This
Speaker 1: recording is from the archives Hadley Brothers Memorial services. Because
Speaker 1: this feels senseless, Why were these two innocent souls taken
Speaker 1: from us? These two who shone so brightly and showed
Speaker 1: them such a great promise, Why, oh Lord, were they
Speaker 1: so truly taken? We asked, innocent souls hardly? Tom and
Speaker 1: Diacon Hadley were the sons of Bobby and Mona Hadley,
Speaker 1: who owned the Hadley Chevrolet Dealership, one of the most
Speaker 1: profitable car lots in the state. They were a wealthy
Speaker 1: and powerful family in the community. In many ways, their
Speaker 1: money and political ties made this town. There's like they
Speaker 1: owned it. A new county ordinance, a new construction permit.
Speaker 1: It was impossible to get anything done in Maniwa County
Speaker 1: without the consent of Bobby Hadley and the power bloated them,
Speaker 1: made them cruel. Hadley twins didn't fall far from the tree.
Speaker 1: In that sense, we coexisted them and me, sharing the
Speaker 1: same habitat on East Elite. They skulked around Manowa County
Speaker 1: like predators. They were not identical. Now. Deacon was the
Speaker 1: smaller of the two. He was the quiet one. He
Speaker 1: wore the silver cross round his neck like a flashy
Speaker 1: reminder of the inequities of life, like he was protected
Speaker 1: by a righteous order, a constant reminder that some people
Speaker 1: can be as sadistic as they please with no consequences.
Speaker 1: Thomas was the stand out. He was taller and more lean.
Speaker 1: His red hair seemed almost unreal, like it was woven
Speaker 1: into his scalp. I remember Thomas strutting through the corriors
Speaker 1: of Carter High, always with the same look plastered on
Speaker 1: his face, the corners of his lips twisted in a
Speaker 1: permanent grin, and sharp green eyes that seemed to be
Speaker 1: staring out from behind a mask. And then there was
Speaker 1: his laugh. You could hear it echo across the high
Speaker 1: school quad like a fucking hyena, almost always triggered by
Speaker 1: some act of casual cruelty. Deacon Hadley was different this one.
Speaker 1: Never smiled, never laughed, hardly spoke eyes like scalpels. His
Speaker 1: cruelty seemed almost scientific. After their bodies were found, the
Speaker 1: autopsies indicated that the Hadley brothers had been attacked, bludgeons
Speaker 1: and stabbed. That much as certain the investigation would dig
Speaker 1: up town secrets as old and dark as the caves themselves,
Speaker 1: it would also change the lives of everyone involved, including me.
Speaker 1: After all, I'm the one who found the bodies. Well,
Speaker 1: Tyler and me, Damn, we should have been night right now,
Speaker 1: Tyler memory as soon as I crossed the county line
Speaker 1: and took me on a little hike down memory Lane,
Speaker 1: literally remember being closer to the south entrance of the
Speaker 1: Manawa Caves, or as we used to call it, the
Speaker 1: whole No. To get to the caves, we had to
Speaker 1: hop a barbed wire fence, trespass across private property, and
Speaker 1: hike all trail for at least a mile through. You
Speaker 1: think underbrush, we'll find it. Where are you saying? The
Speaker 1: motel all fiveway forty two? I can't believe that place
Speaker 1: is still standing up. She's abute, all right, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: you get tired of bring the mill, dude, through your
Speaker 1: pillow case. Hit me up, I'll clear on the back room.
Speaker 1: Oh man, look at that coming out earlier night. Must
Speaker 1: be hungry. Yeah, well the Cays were forbidden long before
Speaker 1: we started hanging out there. Ever since the teenage boy
Speaker 1: was found dead inside back in ninety eight suicide, nobody
Speaker 1: went near it after that except us. This should be
Speaker 1: it appear around this band nine one one. What's your emergency? Um,
Speaker 1: I just need to report. Um, go ahead, sir, I'm listening.
Speaker 1: We we found bodies out here. Um did you say bodies.
Speaker 1: It's ma'am, Um, it's ma'am. They they've been dead a while.
Speaker 1: Thomas h Dickon Hadley. I think I think it's him
Speaker 1: and his brother Thomas. It's uh, he's got it's got
Speaker 1: red hair. So I'm okay. Well, can you give me
Speaker 1: the address, sir? I don't know address web. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: down by the caves. Okay. I'm gonna have you stay
Speaker 1: on the line with me until I can get somebody
Speaker 1: out there. Yes, uh, oh god damn. They look they
Speaker 1: look lived. They were mauld Okay, mald by an animal
Speaker 1: or a stabbed or something. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. And you're sure they're not breathing. Yes, man,
Speaker 1: here there it is. Holy shit. The air was cool
Speaker 1: and damp and smelled of earth and minerals and eons
Speaker 1: of decay. The jetty moss covered granite rocks along the
Speaker 1: southwest entrance of the cavern are not unlike reptilian teeth,
Speaker 1: and it's easy to imagine a colony of hungry bats
Speaker 1: are swirling out of the throat of some prehistoric monster.
Speaker 1: As I stood there, my skin tingled, and I felt
Speaker 1: a pull, a weight like a vertigo that spread outward
Speaker 1: from my gut, like that feeling you get standing on
Speaker 1: the edge of a cliff, like I was looking down
Speaker 1: into the earth into an abyss, the caves beckoning me.
Speaker 1: I have trouble remembering that time in our lives, but
Speaker 1: I remember that day we found him. You remember the
Speaker 1: first thought you had, the first thing that came to mund.
Speaker 1: I remember the light from the morning sun. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just barely creeping into the cave, and it popped
Speaker 1: off Thomas's red hair. That's what caught my eye. Then
Speaker 1: I saw his skin. It stood out against the stones,
Speaker 1: cold blue, and the blood dried all black. But my
Speaker 1: brain wouldn't um, except you know what I was seeing
Speaker 1: like it was scrambling to make up some other explanation
Speaker 1: of I don't know, shaped dog some shit now buy
Speaker 1: no deer, hell, I don't, I don't know. Anything was
Speaker 1: more acceptable than um, dead kid. This is Jue Campbell. Hey,
Speaker 1: miss Campbell, it's Julian Julian Silas. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember mete. Wow, of course I remember. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Look I just got back into town. Yes, god,
Speaker 1: it's been fourteen years. I heard you, uh switch teams
Speaker 1: a while back. You're not a deputy anymore. Nope, mitigation specialist.
Speaker 1: This is about James Fincher. Right. Can you make time
Speaker 1: to see me today? Shit? Um, I'm sorry? Can you?
Speaker 1: Can you used to keep starting over because I am
Speaker 1: I'm still firing out the stammer corner here. What do
Speaker 1: you need to record this for? I'm just I'm gathering information,
Speaker 1: like for a book or something. Oh yeah, I hope
Speaker 1: so you know we'll see Look you could help, you
Speaker 1: know it, raise awareness for Finches for James's case, bring
Speaker 1: some public attention, some outside influence. Can you say your
Speaker 1: name and profession? Jill Campbell, I'm a mitigation specialist here
Speaker 1: in the state of Tennessee. And what does that entail?
Speaker 1: So I scrub evidence that trial proceedings, prosecution, defense also
Speaker 1: to look at someone's background and other circumstances that can
Speaker 1: reduce a death sentence to life in prison. Did you
Speaker 1: build a case for Finch? I mean, can you prove
Speaker 1: that he didn't kill the healthy brothers? I work with
Speaker 1: James Fincher's defense attorney, but there's only so many appeals
Speaker 1: you can file in a capital case. You have to
Speaker 1: be strategic in your timing. There was no sorry, but
Speaker 1: there was no physical evidence time James or anyone else
Speaker 1: to the murder of Deacon and Thomas Hadley. Correct. That's right.
Speaker 1: James's conviction and sentence and was based entirely on circumstantial
Speaker 1: evidence and as you know, false testimony. And you were
Speaker 1: a deputy sheriff in Manuel County back in that's right
Speaker 1: two thousand and one to two thousand and three, promoted
Speaker 1: a few times lieutenant in two thousand and seven at
Speaker 1: the time of the Hadley murders. I made captain in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Criminal Investigation. Why did you quit?
Speaker 1: I got into law enforcement because I wanted to do
Speaker 1: some good, but ninety percent of what we were doing
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with justice. Criminal investigation isn't really
Speaker 1: about catching a bad guy, at least not Manawak County. No. No,
Speaker 1: especially homicide. The department is incentivized to find any evidence
Speaker 1: they can to support an eventual prosecution. Whether you have
Speaker 1: the right guy or not, it doesn't matter. The primary
Speaker 1: goal is to make damn sure the prosecution will get
Speaker 1: their conviction. So when the jury returned to death verdict
Speaker 1: for James Fincher, I was upset about it. I knew
Speaker 1: it wasn't right. I was anguished of my part in it.
Speaker 1: I thought I could make a difference from with them.
Speaker 1: That was naive, so I got into defense. This is
Speaker 1: why he came home, isn't it? James Fincher's executions coming up?
Speaker 1: And you're anguish too, Ain't you excuse me? Hey man?
Speaker 1: Can I get a rephill please? There was obvious discrimination
Speaker 1: in the trial from the get go. James Fincher was
Speaker 1: a multiracial man and men in Wake County. He was different.
Speaker 1: He stood out. I want to give a Sheriff Hooper's
Speaker 1: interrogation at James Fincher, good luck with that. What do
Speaker 1: you mean James Fincher doesn't say a thing on those tapes.
Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing here, Julian? I want
Speaker 1: to help. Look, I've worked hard to get the courts
Speaker 1: to recognize that James Fincher does not deserve death. I've
Speaker 1: come piled a comprehensive and well documented psychosocial history of
Speaker 1: James based on an exhaustive investigation, I'm built a case
Speaker 1: on all the factors this early life trauma, then packed
Speaker 1: on his development, including effects on personality and behavior, not
Speaker 1: to mention the bullying and what happened does sister Dina?
Speaker 1: So basically, you're saying he did it, but he couldn't
Speaker 1: help it. Have you given up on his innoc not? No,
Speaker 1: but the people have, the courts have so right now
Speaker 1: untill the real killer turns up. This is our best strategy. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the courts are not hearing it. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: remember the State Supreme Court denied his appeal after the
Speaker 1: sentence and phase of the trial. But we may still
Speaker 1: be able to get the sentence commuted on other grounds,
Speaker 1: commuted to what life, But an innocent man would still
Speaker 1: be locked up for life. Life is better than death.
Speaker 1: Last time I checked. Guess that depends on the circumstances.
Speaker 1: DNA Fincher seems to think that we can still petition
Speaker 1: a higher court inner on the grounds that the key
Speaker 1: witnesses testimony was coerced. Yes, I appreciate Dina's efforts and yours, Julian,
Speaker 1: but you're clinging to threads and I understand you want
Speaker 1: to do the right thing, but that's not going to
Speaker 1: have been enough of the higher court to make the
Speaker 1: ship Birds of Manawa County review James Fincher's case. Again,
Speaker 1: you need to understand how this works and how it doesn't.
Speaker 1: The system did not merely permit the miscarriage of justice
Speaker 1: that got Fincher convicted for a crime he did not.
Speaker 1: The system encouraged it. James Fincher has been convicted and
Speaker 1: he's been sentenced, so at this point, in the eyes
Speaker 1: of the court, he is guilty guilty until proven innocent. Look,
Speaker 1: the only surefire way to stop Fincher's execution is to
Speaker 1: prove he didn't do it. And the only way to
Speaker 1: do that that is to prove dead that what you're
Speaker 1: here to do. If that's what it takes, Yes, ma'am, Look,
Speaker 1: I could probably make a call and see if I
Speaker 1: can't get a hold of those interrogation tapes for you.
Speaker 1: I still got friends in the department over at Hooper Station. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it'll do any good though, Okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Joe. Detective Solomon Smith what he
Speaker 1: was on the case. You probably remember him, Detective Solomon Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he believed James was innocent and had some leads on
Speaker 1: some other suspects, but he disappeared. What do you mean
Speaker 1: he disappeared? Well, I don't know what happened to him,
Speaker 1: but if you want to find out who was behind this,
Speaker 1: you should find out what Smith knew. Follow his tracks.
Speaker 1: He may be on those interrogation tapes, and he kept
Speaker 1: an audio logged during the investigation. I'll see what I
Speaker 1: can dig up. Les A Sheriff Kirby Hooper interviewing James
Speaker 1: Fancher case nine four seven three five two June fifth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, ten ten am. Morning, James, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling today? Jill Campbell was true to her word.
Speaker 1: One call from her and the Archives Department handed the
Speaker 1: investigation tapes over. Don't feel like talking today? Huh? I'm
Speaker 1: going to need you to answer a few questions about
Speaker 1: what happened the other day. I think you can do
Speaker 1: that more. Listening to these tapes and hearing Sheriff Kirby
Speaker 1: Hooper's voice again was unsettling. He was an earnest man, humorless.
Speaker 1: In fact, he always seemed perplexed by the laughter of others.
Speaker 1: Sharp eyes and a tall figure. He always wore the
Speaker 1: same dull brown uniform like he was born in it,
Speaker 1: and he would probably be buried into two. His shoulders
Speaker 1: were permanently stooped, like it was some sisophine curse. To
Speaker 1: maintain order in his small corner of the universe, he
Speaker 1: needed to determine to have the brothers cause of death.
Speaker 1: He needed autopsies, but the medical report was confusing to say.
Speaker 1: At least the next show's short force injuries, the Brown,
Speaker 1: the Chess, and the dam and Black show injuries with
Speaker 1: transaction of the lift and tom jug Leavine. Primary and
Speaker 1: perhaps fatal wound begins on the left side of the
Speaker 1: groin and reaches across the testicles. Is gaping measures three
Speaker 1: inches in length with clean edges. With a case like this,
Speaker 1: there's not really anyone with the right sort of training
Speaker 1: or experience to decipher the clues. Sure as hell not
Speaker 1: Sheriff of bro So we quickly named James Fincher the
Speaker 1: prompt suspect in the case. You gotta be scared right,
Speaker 1: tired of strangers poking and pridden at you. I can
Speaker 1: make all that stop games, I can make them go away,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to talk to me if you
Speaker 1: want that to happen. You're gonna have to tell me
Speaker 1: what you were doing in those games with those boys.
Speaker 1: I played this first audio file in the car and
Speaker 1: had to pull over. Something about it felt eerily familiar.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the sound of Sheriff Hooper's interrogation, though
Speaker 1: that dredged up some old feelings, for sure. It was
Speaker 1: the sort of static hits of the state owned recording device.
Speaker 1: It was agitating. It made something in my brain itch,
Speaker 1: something panic. I came back to man a walk after
Speaker 1: I started waking up from bad dreams, drenched in sweat,
Speaker 1: and then one morning when I caught myself in the
Speaker 1: mirror and didn't recognize what I saw, Like my hands
Speaker 1: didn't belong to my arms. My eyes were not mine either,
Speaker 1: like something else was staring back at me from behind
Speaker 1: the glass. That's how it happens. See, just happens little
Speaker 1: by little, like when the song you were singing in
Speaker 1: the showers playing on the radio, when you start your
Speaker 1: car an hour later, or when you always notice the
Speaker 1: clock it's exactly three thirty three, or maybe you will
Speaker 1: suddenly think of an old friend the day before, finding
Speaker 1: out on Facebook that they recently died. Yeah, these are
Speaker 1: the signs. This is how you will know what's coming,
Speaker 1: moving across the void, closer and closer, like the dad
Speaker 1: of a thousand hungry bads, screeching in the gloom and
Speaker 1: the dusk. Remember this, It always starts with the noise,
Speaker 1: the white noise, white noise, the sounds of the shower,
Speaker 1: or the incests in the summer, locusts, or the box
Speaker 1: fan you keep in your room. You will know the
Speaker 1: sound when you hear it. I hear it in James
Speaker 1: Fincher's in Derogation tape. For fourteen years, I've or to Pottsville,
Speaker 1: in those goddamn caves. Like I said before, I do
Speaker 1: not want to be back in Manouel County. I fucking
Speaker 1: hate it. I hate the cold, gray stone of the
Speaker 1: town and the sharp, cruel eyes of the churchgoers at
Speaker 1: first Baptist. I hate the creeping darkness that overtakes the
Speaker 1: town every night. It took the Hadley Brothers, took many
Speaker 1: others too soon, it will almost certainly take James Fincher,
Speaker 1: and one day it may take me too. I tried
Speaker 1: to stay away, but it found me. It's been pulling
Speaker 1: me back ever since. And I know in my core
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna stop until I see James Fincher
Speaker 1: set free. And in order to do that, well, I
Speaker 1: have to figure out who really killed Thomas and Dickonhandley.
Speaker 1: If I don't, James Fincher is going to be executed
Speaker 1: in twelve days. The Ghost and the Dancing the Manoa
Speaker 1: Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Salis, Eddie Gaffeggy as
Speaker 1: James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, Nick Sercy
Speaker 1: as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Wellbourne as Tyler Wilson, Jill
Speaker 1: Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappert,
Speaker 1: Scott Poythress as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Deana Fincher,
Speaker 1: Justin Matthews Smith as Paul Salis, Tara Oakes as Laura Salis,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Kronovitch as Thomas Hadley,
Speaker 1: Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington, Bodie walter Off as
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fincher, Brian McClure as Ian Speaks, Larry Clark as
Speaker 1: Bobby Hadley, Peyton Fallis as ed La, Vic Pliss as
Speaker 1: William Fowler, Nick Dakaski as Richard Rydell, and Aileen moy
Speaker 1: as The Darkness, with additional performances by Clint McGowan, Dina Dill,
Speaker 1: Edward Howard and Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Manzalez,
Speaker 1: Christopher Curry, Bailey Hyneman, David Mitchell, and Bernard Satara Clark.
Speaker 1: Created by Connel Byrne and Dan Bush, Written by Dan Bush,
Speaker 1: Zoe Cooper and Nicholas Dakoski, featuring our theme song Killer Inside,
Speaker 1: Written produced and performed by Lea Lynn. Our executive producers
Speaker 1: are Matt Frederick, Alexander Williams, Michael Monte, and Courtney Dufrees.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers at Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold Chris
Speaker 1: Dickey and Noah Feinberg. Produced by Dan Bush, music by
Speaker 1: Ben Lovett, additional music by Alexander Rodriguez. Edited by Dan Bush,
Speaker 1: Chris Childs, Stephen Perez, and David Chen. Sound design by
Speaker 1: Benjamin Malcolm. Additional sound designed by Alexander Rodriguez. Dialogue editing
Speaker 1: and sound mixing by Juan Campos. Recorded at Studio Awesome
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, sound Bite Studio in Atlanta, and Echo
Speaker 1: Mountain in Asheville. Casting by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy and Meg Mormon.
Speaker 1: Our dialect coach is Linda Basseesti, Assistant director Michael Monty,
Speaker 1: second assistant director, script supervisor and production coordinator Sarah Klein.
Speaker 1: Supervising producer Josh Thine. Special thanks to Mary Ellen and
Speaker 1: Jason Davis, Jonathan Deeter, and Joe Rickman. The Manoel Caves
Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio, Plumhouse Television, and Psycopia Pictures.
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