1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, good people. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: This is Jamel Hill, host of Politics, and welcome to 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: a very special edition of Politics. I do these minipiles 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: ever so often just to give you, guys, sort of 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: my immediate reaction, my immediate thoughts to. 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Some of the hottest topics across sports. 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Now, for those of you who I'm sure paid attention, 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: this past weekend was the WNBA All Star Weekend, and 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: the WNBA All Star Weekend ten out of ten. No notes, well, 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: actually a couple notes, so maybe I couldn't give it 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: a full ten out of ten, but there were a 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: couple notes that were necessarily more or less related to 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: the game itself. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: But generally I thought it was an incredible. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Sort of an incredible showcase for the WNBA. It was Indianapolis, 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: and I know there was a lot of people who 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: wondered how would this all start weekend and go off, 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: particularly since Caitlin Clark was unable to participate due to 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: an injury, and people wonder where they still be able 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: to get the same viewership. As of this recording, I 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: don't know what that viewership is, but if we're just 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: going off vibes and energy, it looked like Indianapolis. 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: Was a hell of a time. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Scott Diggins had an incredible performance the Vista Collier. 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 1: She wound up winning w NBA All Star MVP. 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Now, as much as there was so much to talk about, 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: from what the ladies' fits were, from various social interactions, 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: which I'll get into later, the talk of the weekend 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: by far was the w NBA players wearing these shirts. 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: These shirts that say pay us what you owe us. 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: They wore these in their warm ups, hitting your warm 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Ups before the WNBA All Star Game actually took place, 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: and this has caused quite a polarizing reaction across social media, 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: as you might as you might gather now to give 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: people a little bit of backstory, the WNBA Players Association 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: or the players, they decided to opt out of their 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: collective bargaining agreement which they agreed to in twenty twenty. 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: They decided to opt out. It made all the sense 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: of the world. 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Of why they did. You should probably go back. 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: I would encourage you all, if you can, to go 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: back and listen to a podcast that I did earlier 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: in this season of spot Attacks of Politics with the 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: executive director of the WNBA Players Association. That would be 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: Terry Jackson, who broke all this down and pretty much 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: foreshadowed a lot of this, not necessarily the T shirts, 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: but just in terms of what the players would be 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: asking for. So make sure that you go back and 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: check out check out that episode. So anyway, they decided 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: to wear these T shirts, and it created a humorous 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: reaction across social media. In fact, as of I'm recording 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: right now, it still is creating a reaction because when 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: I last checked X, the WNBA was the number one 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: trending topics and it was all about them deciding to. 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Wear these T shirts. There's a few things that were 56 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: immediately noticeable about the reaction. So much of the reaction. 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: I realize that social media is not a perfect age, 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: especially when we're talking about X, which seems to farm 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: and really heighten and promote the negativity. 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: But what was immediately. 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 2: Obvious about this is that a lot of people were 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: giving that shut up and drible type of energy. 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: And I may note this and my first comment on 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: social media when. 65 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: I say, h huh, it's interesting how that protect women's 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: sports energy isn't there when you have women demanding more 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: equity in a league of which they are the source 68 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: of why that league exists are they are the reason 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: that the WNBA exists, and it's been able to thrive 70 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: and it's been able to dive for so many years. 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: So suddenly that whole protect women's sports thing, they ain't 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: got nothing to say about this, So I guess because 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: that I guess because trans athletes are not a part 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: of this, then they don't feel like these women who 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: are demanding something that a lot of women face, which 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: is pay equity, fair pay in the workplace. 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: This is an issue related to all women. 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: And yet again that protect women's sports crowd is not there. 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: So essentially the women understanding where the league is in 80 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: this moment. One of the reasons they opted out of 81 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: collective bargaining is so that they could go back to 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: the negotiation table at a time where the league is 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: undergoing a huge transformation. We've seen what the arrival of 84 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark has done to the league in terms of attendance, 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: in terms of interest. I mean, there is no one 86 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: else like her in sports at this moment. 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: It reminds you of almost a Tiger Woods. 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Like effect on the league in terms of the ability 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: to attract an audience. 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: And so we know that that is happening. And even though. 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: There are other factors you can point to where the 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: WNBA before Kaitlyn got there, they were clearly trending up. 93 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: A lot of people were bothered by this T shirt. 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: One of the words that people kept circling was the 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: word oh. But let me tell you why the word 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: oh is appropriate. I want you guys to understand where 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: the WNBA is right now, because a lot of people 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: were pointing to the fact that there was a report 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: I think it was in the New York Post and 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 2: the New York Times where they said in twenty twenty 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: four that even with the arrival of Kate L Clark 102 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, the league was still set to 103 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: lose forty to fifty million dollars. We gonna get to 104 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: that number in a second. But here's what the players 105 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: recognize right now in this moment. The WNBA, because this 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: is what's not being talked. 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: About enough on social media. 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: The WNBA just signed a two point two billion dollars 109 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: meteor ites deal. 110 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: That deal kicks into effect next year. 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: They will the league will be able to the league 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: will be paid two hundred million dollars a year based 113 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: off what this last media negotiation was two point two 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: billion dollars. There are currently multiple teams that will get 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: WNBA teams Detroit, Cleveland, Philly. By twenty thirty, the WNBA 116 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: will have eighteen teams. They currently have thirteen teams. All right, 117 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: so let me just ask y'all this. A lot of 118 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: y'all have joined me again, this is a special episode 119 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: as politics. I'm also doing this live on YouTube at 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: the same time, simultane simultaneously, So let me ask you 121 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: all this. Okay, If the WNBA is not growing, if 122 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: it's not profitable, if it doesn't have the potential for profit, 123 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: why are so many investors lining up to buy teams? 124 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: Can anybody answer me that question? If the WNBA product 125 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: is as bad as the people say, who are throwing 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: this forty fifty million dollar profit or a forty fifty 127 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: million dollar loss figure out there constantly saying this is 128 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 2: why they don't deserve anything. If it is so bad, 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: If there is nothing to be gained financially from this league, 130 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: if it is the charity you guys keep saying that 131 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: it is, why are billionaires lining up to join this league? 132 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: For example, the the Valkyries, right the Valkyries are the 133 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: newest franchise in the WNBA. There are an incredible story 134 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: the Golden State Valkyries. They're one of the best stories 135 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: across all the sports. This team looks like they're going 136 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs as an expansion team. 137 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: The Valkyries are already valued at five hundred million dollars. 138 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Five hundred million. 139 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: It's the highest valuation of any women's sports team in history. 140 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: The Valkyries currently right the New York Liberty their valuation is. 141 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Four hundred and thirty million dollars. 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 2: Right now, the Indiana Fever their valuation is two hundred 143 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: and thirty two million dollars. There were investors lined up 144 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: to get WNBA teams, and in fact, there is a 145 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: rumor that the Connecticut Sale are the Connecticut Sun. 146 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: They're up for sale, excuse me. 147 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: And because of that, there are a number of investors 148 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: who want the team. 149 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: They want the team, but they want to move the team. 150 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of conjecture there about what really 151 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: might happen. 152 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: So I'm the smartest person in the world. 153 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: But if this is a bad investment, like y'all say 154 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: it is, why do they keep attracting billionaires? And investors. 155 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I know this is gonna 156 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: come as a shock to you. The reason why I 157 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: find that forty to fifty million dollar loss statement so interesting, 158 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: I need you all to put on your critical thinking caps. 159 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: In fact, I'm gonna use the NBA as an example 160 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: of why we need to have on our skepticism in 161 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: this moment. Let me remind you of what has happened 162 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: every single NBA lockout? All right, the NBA has been 163 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: I believe they've locked out four times in NBA history, 164 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: four times, all right? Every single time is a lockout. 165 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: What do the owners claim? The owners claim they are 166 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: losing money. I am old enough to remember in nineteen 167 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: ninety nine when there was a lockout and then we 168 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: had that fifty game season, the NBA owners claimed they 169 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: lost over a billion dollars. They were selling the narrative 170 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: that the NBA is a bad business. Didn't we just 171 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: see the Lakers just sell a piece of the Bus family. 172 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: Just sell a piece of the Lakers for ten billion dollars. 173 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: So if the NBA was losing as much money as 174 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: the owner said in nineteen ninety nine, how did the 175 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: Lakers just get sold for ten billion how did the 176 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: Substics go for six billion before the Lakers did? So, 177 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out the math, y'all let 178 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: me know. Okay, let me give you another example of 179 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: how the NBA or I should say how owners in 180 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: professional sports often used the media to. 181 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: Create the narrative that the players are being ungrateful. 182 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: Let us go back to twenty eleven when there was 183 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: another NBA lockout that was that wound up being a 184 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: sixty six game season. 185 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Adam Silver, who was the deputy commissioner of the NBA, then. 186 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: He said that the league was operating at a three 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: hundred million dollar loss and twenty two teams lost money. 188 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: Twenty two teams, so class. 189 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: What have we learned from this is that when it 190 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: comes to negotiations, when there's a collective bargaining, that a 191 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: negotiation that's on. 192 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: The table, the owners will lie. 193 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: About the financials to get you to believe that they 194 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: are losing money and that this is a bad business 195 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: deal for them. And yet if a team opens up tomorrow, 196 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: they are literally tearing their acls to buy one. But 197 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be bad business, Okay, it is not 198 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: bad business to own a sports team let me tell 199 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: you why it's not bad business. You all know Steve Baumer, 200 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: owner of the Los Angeles Clippers. Pro Publica did this 201 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: report in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, excuse me. 202 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, pro. 203 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: Publica took a look at why sports teams are such 204 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: an attractive business for billionaires. 205 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: And for people with that kind of money. 206 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, guests who paid more taxes Lebron 207 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: James or Steve Barmber. Now, keep in mind, Steve Bamber 208 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: is worth one hundred and thirty billion dollars. Lebron James. 209 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if he was worth a billion dollars then, 210 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: but I know what Steve Barmber was worth. 211 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: Okay, the answer is Steve Bomber. 212 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: Steve Bomber in twenty twenty one was able to show 213 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: that the Clippers lost seven hundred million dollars. 214 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: Steve Balmer strikes me as a pretty smart dude. 215 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: Do you actually think and I ain't trying to call 216 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: affais on nobody, I ain't trying to call an IRS, 217 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: do you actually think that Steve Bamber, who has been 218 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: able to amass a networth of one hundred and thirty 219 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: four billion dollars that he would just be a okay 220 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: with losing seven hundred million dollars. 221 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: Wonder what those books look like, because here's the thing about. 222 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: The narratives that the owners spend. 223 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: You can make the books look however you want. 224 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: Nobody has seen the WNBA finances. We don't know what's 225 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: actually in them, but we do see the deals that 226 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: are being cut. We do see the revenue that's being generated. 227 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: And the players see that too. 228 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: And the players aren't stupid, all right. 229 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: So the reason they are asking and saying you owe 230 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: us is because they know that these owners cannot be trusted. 231 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: They also realize the moment that they're in now where 232 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: they are getting increased attendance, increased visibility, They are becoming 233 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: increasingly increasingly high meati your presence. They understand the economics 234 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: of this thing. And what is sad to me is 235 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: to see so many of you all that are so 236 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: many of y'all glaze these billionaires, constantly glaze them. 237 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Why are you signing with the billionaires? They got enough money? 238 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Why, let's say, the profet lost statement was exactly what 239 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: they said, So what. 240 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: They're billionaires? 241 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: And it seemed to me that you all took such 242 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: exception about the word oh, because what you were really 243 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: saying is these women don't deserve anything. 244 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh. They need to just be happy they hear. 245 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: Look, just because on your job you got to put 246 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: up the Baptist finger when you walk around your boss. 247 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: Don't put that. Don't project that on these women. I mean, 248 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: I don't understand this. Whenever it is player versus owner, 249 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: players versus league, you know who y'all should be signing 250 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: with the. 251 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Players, Okay, not the league. 252 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: And so it is unbelievable to me to see how 253 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: easily this narrative against these women has shifted, because at 254 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you just don't think they 255 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: deserve it. 256 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: And I'd rather you just say that to sit up there. 257 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: And act like you suddenly an accountant and that you 258 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: care about profit and law statements. 259 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: Because you don't. 260 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: All right now, just so you all understand the full 261 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: finances of this, the NBA players, for example, they get 262 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: fifty percent of it's a fifty to fifty foot of 263 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: the league revenue. 264 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, in twenty eleven, the reason why the. 265 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: Owners kept showing how much money that they were losing 266 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: and trying what they were trying to. 267 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: Do is get the players to take less revenue. 268 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: At that point it was fifty seven percent, but all 269 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: of a sudden because it was fifty seven percent. 270 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: And again, these are businessmen who are a stoop. 271 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: They get into this to make money, all right, They 272 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: get into this to make money. And so to them, 273 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: they weren't going to be invested in the league where 274 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: the players made more money than they did the very 275 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: idea of this, because realize, these are guys who have egos, 276 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: these are billionaires that they did not want any scenario 277 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: where the players were making were getting a larger cut 278 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: than they were, so. 279 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: They were able to. 280 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: Make the books look how they needed them to look 281 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: in order to prove to the public that these players 282 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: are being ungrateful, that these players. 283 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: That they are not deserving of this. 284 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: And these narratives should all sound really familiar to you 285 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,239 Speaker 2: because in America right now currently we have more smoke. 286 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: For workers than we do for corporations. 287 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: We're having this conversation right now about immigration and undocumented 288 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: workers and all of that. Notice how the undocumented workers 289 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: are the target, but not the businesses that hire them 290 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: and exploit them. Again, there's a theme here, and that 291 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: is because in our country, unfortunately, wealth is very aspirational, 292 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: and even though the people that are most driving the 293 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: inequality have the most money, is so much easier for 294 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: us to blame the people lower than us, the people 295 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: right at the same level level is us. 296 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: So for the people who are. 297 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: Casual fans of the WNBA, they see these women wearing 298 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: these t shirts that say pay us what you owe us, 299 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: and then they suddenly get triggered by this as if again, 300 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: this is not something that all of you should be 301 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: able to relate to as people who work for somebody else, as. 302 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Most people do. I know they are entrepreneurs, but most 303 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: people work for somebody else. 304 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: You should be rooting for the people to make more 305 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: money instead of being a hater, because that's what it. 306 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: Sounds like for a lot of y'all, like y'all just 307 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: being haters. 308 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: As I said, NBA players make about a fifty percent, 309 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: They make a fifty fifty percent split. 310 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 311 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: In WNBA players make less than ten percent of the revenue, 312 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: sharing less than ten percent. Now, I want you to understand, 313 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: WNBA players have never said that they want to make 314 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: as much money as NBA players. Often when they point 315 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: out the salaries of NBA players. They point this out 316 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 2: so that you can see how wide the disparity is. 317 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: They're not saying we should be worth as much as 318 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: Lebron should Lebron James. What they're saying is that the 319 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: distance between what I make and Lebron James should not 320 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: be nine trillion percent. It should be you know, we 321 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: should be able to make a living doing just this 322 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: in the WNBA. The whole reason Britney Grinder got caught 323 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: up in Russia is because she needed to go to 324 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 2: Russia to supplement their supplement her income. 325 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: Russia was paying her seven figures. So Russia. 326 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: You all are aware that Russia has one of the 327 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: most terrible track records when it comes to human rights. 328 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: How is it that Russia can pay American women more 329 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: than we can? Help me figure that out. Russia was 330 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: playing Diana Tarassi and Brittany Grinder and a lot of 331 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: other women seven figure salaries, but we can't. Does that 332 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: make sense? So it kind of doesn't to be. It 333 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me that the country who has 334 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: who when it comes to human rights and gender equity 335 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: and LGBTQ issues. 336 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Far behind us, far less. 337 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: Progressive than us, but they can pay women's basketball players more. 338 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: That should make a lot of that shouldn't make sense 339 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: to any of you all. So what I'm saying is 340 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: that as we're having this conversation, don't fall for the 341 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: narratives because even based off what the media has reported, 342 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: none of them have seen the financials. 343 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: And you see that throughout history. That's why I pointed 344 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: out the NBA. 345 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: Is that every time it's a lockout, there's always a 346 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: league source that tells a major news outlet that they're 347 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: losing money. Happens every single time, like clockwork. So why 348 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: are we falling for this again? A league source told 349 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: the New York Times and the New York Posts that 350 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: the WNBA is losing forty fifty million dollars. As a reporter, 351 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: you know what your first question should be, what a 352 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: book's at show me? Because when the WNBA was making 353 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: about one hundred million dollars generating about one hundred million 354 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: dollars in revenue, the NBA claimed that they were losing 355 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: ten million dollars a year. Last year, the WNBA generated 356 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: over two hundred million dollars in revenue. But now they're 357 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: losing forty to fifty million dollars a year. Does that 358 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: math math to you? You losing You're making more money 359 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: and losing more money at the same time. 360 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: And then there came this other. 361 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: Report that the NBA owners were upset that the WNBA 362 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: wasn't turning a profit. 363 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: So we have three narratives. 364 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: That coincidentally got pushed out there before the w NBA 365 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: players announced that they were opting out of the collective 366 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: bargaining agreement. 367 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Listen, all I've done is watch A Long Order a 368 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: few times. 369 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: I ain't Olivia Benson, and I can't stable, but I 370 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: can connect them dots, can you all? 371 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: And you know who else can connect these dots is 372 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: my man. 373 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: Applies pay these women and the w NBA peyty motherfucking women. 374 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: Man. 375 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear none of that shit. 376 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: But the w NBA hadn't made any money. 377 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: It loses money every year. The only reason is still 378 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: even a float is because of the NBA, the subsidience. 379 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to have a motherfucking fish run. Have 380 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: a motherfucking fish running. 381 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: That's what they should do. 382 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: At my motherfucking grandma church. 383 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Have a motherfucking fish run. I don't want to hear 384 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: none of that. 385 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: How do you goddamn people, man, And how y'all feel 386 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: like women shouldn't even make no goddamn money unless they're 387 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: a motherfucking g spring. That's how the majority of y'all 388 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: shood the don't know why a woman should make some 389 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: goddamn money in this country is that if they got 390 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: a motherfucking g sprint. These are high qualified women, fatherfucking 391 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: knucker out there in Seattle. That's a motherfucking snap for degree. 392 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: That woman damn now Ironstinle who know how to play 393 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: goddamn basketball. Her teammates Kyle of Thigging, that's a notre 394 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: dame motherfucking degree, whether. 395 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: You like it or not. 396 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: Katie's goddamn people, But I don't want to hear. Listen, 397 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: if Pope Ice was telling me right now, they ain't 398 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: making no money, and I'm looking over here to the right, 399 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: and it's three more motherfucking popeyes, just like it is 400 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: in the WNBA and motherfucking Cleveland and Philly in Detroit. 401 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody signing up to lose no goddamn money. I 402 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: don't care how much money you got them to stand 403 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: your smallfuckers is the ones with the money. So I 404 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: don't care about fifteen twenty years ago, which I respect 405 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: the players from fifteen twenty years ago, who y'all wasn't 406 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: paying because the revenue wasn't never But it's just like 407 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: in the NBA, fifty percent, the NBA players get fifty percent. 408 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: They make fifty percent. Other revenue generated goes to the playoff. 409 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: In the WNA dem again nine that shit. 410 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: You ain't got to give him fifty percent again more 411 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: than not. Goddamn Big Alta for the liberty. Big alle 412 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 3: deserve a motherfucking mellion dollars by herself if you motherfucking I. 413 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: And me Katie's goddamn people, man. 414 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: They deserve I mean, I don't understand why it's hard 415 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: why that's a hard concept to grasp. The women are making, 416 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: as Plya said, he is correct, they're making about nine 417 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: percent of the revenue. 418 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: What would happen if. 419 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: They make twenty or twenty five or thirty that would 420 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: be fair. 421 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: Because here's the other thing. 422 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: This is a critical moment for the WNBA in the 423 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: sense that now that they have the eyeballs, it's about 424 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: taking the lead to the next level. 425 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: They have new teams that are coming. 426 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: New investment, and what they want to do is protect 427 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: their investment, which is the players. 428 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: You don't want the players having to play overseas. 429 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: To some degree, you don't even want them to be 430 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: playing and unrivaled, So it would make sense if you 431 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: paid them enough money so that all of them could 432 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: sustain a living just playing in the WNBA. We saw 433 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: this happen a few years ago. I believe it was 434 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: Stewie suffered a major injury. I think it was Stewie. 435 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, please correct me. Suffered a major injury overseas. 436 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: Do you want that to be a reality. You probably don't, 437 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: So it makes more sense to invest in the players now. 438 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: And for those who all of a sudden became profit hawks. 439 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: And are like, well, they're not making they're not profiting, 440 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: so they shouldn't They shouldn't have to They shouldn't be 441 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: demanding anything. Do you realize that in whatever company you 442 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: work for, whether the company profits or not, they still have. 443 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: To pay you. 444 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: The other thing is, do you think in the NBA 445 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: that they waited until the NBA was profitable before they 446 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: started playing paying the players. The NBA wasn't profitable for 447 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: about forty years if we believe their books, they were 448 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: not profitable for forty years. And those forty years, did 449 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: the player salaries increase the. 450 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: Discreete or decrease? 451 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: It increased, And just to give you idea of this 452 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: disparity in the early seventies where you could argue the 453 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: nineteen seventies were a really rough time for the NBA. 454 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: A lot of people thought the NBA was going to flow. 455 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: It was perceived as a league being two black, They 456 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: had rampant drug issues. 457 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: TV ratings were terrible, you know. 458 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: The seventies into basically that magic bird. 459 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: They got the NBA off of life support. 460 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: The NBA Finals was on tape delay before those two 461 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: showed up, So the league was. 462 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: In a bad place. 463 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: Even still with the league being in you know, that 464 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: kind of volatility, experiencing that kind of volatility. Kareem Abdul 465 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: Jabbar was making three hundred seventy five thousand dollars a year. 466 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: That was in the early seventies, so imagine what the 467 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: equivalent of that is now. Bill Bradley and Walt Fraser 468 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: were each making over three hundred thousand dollars a year. 469 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: In today. 470 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: In the year of our Lord Beyonce the highest paid 471 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: player I believe in the WNBA might be Jackie Young. 472 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: Jackie Young is making less than what Kareeb Abdul Jabari 473 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: is making in the seventies. Does that sound right to you? Okay, 474 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: that's what they're fighting for. And by the way, if 475 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: you follow the financial trajectory of the NBA and the WBA, 476 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: the WVa. 477 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Is actually ahead of where the NBA was. So how 478 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: is a player the highest. 479 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: Paid player today in the WBA making less than what 480 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: somebody made fifty years ago. It doesn't make sense, which 481 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: leads me to what this is really all about. A 482 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: lot of times, especially when it comes to women fighting 483 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: for pay, fighting for equity, people don't deny them pay 484 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: because they haven't earned it. They deny them pay and 485 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 2: equity simply because they can, because they can rely on 486 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: people out there telling women what they don't deserve. And 487 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: there's no better example of this in recent times than 488 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: what happened in the NCAA Women's Tournament a few years ago. 489 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: This was twenty twenty. 490 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: This was the year of COVID, when both the tournaments, 491 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: the men and women's tournaments, were being paid in a 492 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: bubble and Sedona Prince went to TikTok made note of 493 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: what their facilities, their exercise facilities looked like, where they 494 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: basically gave them a couple of yoga masks, some cheap 495 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 2: ass dumbbails that they might have got from Dollar General 496 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: and they called it a day. Meanwhile, the men's tournament, 497 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: those players they had a state of the art gyp 498 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: that they could work out in. The women were on 499 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: a four or five hundred million dollar television deal. So 500 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: you mean to tell me they couldn't afford some extra dumbbails. 501 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: So why did they do it? They did it because 502 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: they could. They did it because people are constantly in 503 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: this mentality that the women just need to be happy 504 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: and shut up and be grateful. There's that word again, 505 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: grateful that they even allowed to play sports at all. 506 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: So as long as you in this mentality that people 507 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: need to be grateful and they need to be subservient 508 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 2: to the people in charge, that's why those t shirts 509 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: are getting the reaction that they are because people caught 510 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: up on one word old. 511 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: How dare these women use the word? 512 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh, that's what this is all about. So all these 513 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: people who are like uplift women's sports and protect women's sports. 514 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: Y'all quiet, huh, sorry, it's not a trans athlete in this, 515 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: so y'all can hate because I know that's the only 516 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: thing y'all really care about. Y'all don't actually care about 517 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: investment in women's sports and the things that undermine women's sports. 518 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: You know what all underminds women's sports is when. 519 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: People take off on players, women's players who dare to 520 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: speak out. 521 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, you know. 522 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: Y'all messing with the wrong group of players, right, And 523 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: by the wrong group, I. 524 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: Mean you got the right ones. And if you recall, 525 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: the last. 526 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: Time this league decided to wear some T shirts was 527 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: when they got a senator elected, and that would be 528 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: Reverend Rafayel Warnock, who was elected to the Georgia Senate. 529 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Because the WNBA players decided to stand against one of 530 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: the NBA or one of the WNBA owners, Kelly Leffler 531 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: at the time of the Atlanta Dream, because the players 532 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: were vocal about black lives matter and standing out against 533 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: police andjustice. 534 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: She made some. 535 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: Comments on Fox saying that the players were wrong, calling 536 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: them anti American, her own players in her own league, 537 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: and the WAA players said bet clockett. So they started 538 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: to research the candidates and the Senate race. They came 539 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: across Reverend Rafael Warnot. He was polling at nine percent, 540 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: He had zero chance of winning the Senate seat in Georgia. 541 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: And when he decided, when they decided, they met with him, 542 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: they heard his platform, and they decided that they were 543 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: going to get behind this man. So instead of expanding 544 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: their energy on Kelly Leffler, they decided to use their 545 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: platform to promote Reverend Wafael Warnock. And when they did that, 546 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: he won the race. They talked about his platform, they 547 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: wore support Warnock T shirts, and they changed the course 548 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: of history by getting him elected Senator in Georgia. 549 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: And that's even especially more monumental. 550 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: Because Reverend Warrenhut was one of those who cast a 551 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: vote for Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson to become the first 552 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: black woman. 553 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: To be appointed to the Supreme Court. 554 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: So don't underestimate how much these women are willing to 555 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: fight for what they believe. 556 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: They are old, all. 557 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: Right, I want to move on before I get you 558 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: guys out of here and talk about more positive things 559 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: about the NBA All Star Weekend. Not that it was 560 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: a negative about the T shirts. I think they had 561 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: every right to do that, as I explained the many 562 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: reasons why, but by far, I think it's fair to say, 563 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: especially if you're on social media and following all the 564 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: activity happening in Indianapolis. 565 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Can y'all, for the love of God, kill. 566 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: This narrative that Caitlyn Clark is unliked in the WNBA 567 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: because I don't know what y'all saw, but what I 568 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: saw is Kaitlyn Clark. 569 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Having a blast with WNBA players black white. She was 570 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: having a ball. 571 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: Now, because the music rights, I ain't gonna play you 572 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: what she's singing, but I believe it's waka flaka. 573 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: Kayln Clark was a hell of a. 574 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: Ambassador for the NBA WNBA All Star Weekend and even 575 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: though she wasn't able to participate, her presence was felt. 576 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: Kaitlyn was going up all the time, and you know 577 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Indianapolis as a city, I had friends that were there. 578 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: They put on a show. 579 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Now, I know the FISA Collier was the official MVP 580 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: of the WNBA All Star Game, but the real MVP 581 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: was stud Buds. They were the real MVP of WNBA 582 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: All Star Weekend. 583 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: And in case you aren't familiar with Stub Buds. 584 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: These are the Minnesota Leak's teammates, Courtney Williams natsiha Heidemann. 585 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: They are two of the most charismatic, funniest, hilarious personalities 586 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: in the WNBA. 587 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: They did a seventy two. 588 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: Hour live stream and they was wild the whole time. 589 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: This is they was getting in. 590 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: They was having crazy conversations. I mean, the phrase get 591 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 2: the strap was used quite a bit. They are they 592 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,240 Speaker 2: had themselves a ball and it was infectious and they, 593 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: to me, dave the best advertisement for what this weekend 594 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: was about because they showed that authenticity. 595 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: They showed you know, that camaraderie, that fun. Look. 596 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: I've been to a few NBA All Star weekends and 597 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: I can tell you look that you don't see this 598 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 2: kind of authenticity often. 599 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't. You know, that's not. 600 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: A lot of NBA players. They're kind of too cool 601 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: for certain stuff. But those young ladies, they showed people 602 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: how to have a good time and. 603 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: Shout out to the stub buds. 604 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: I hope you take advantage of the momentum and the 605 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: publicity that you were able to generate from this particular weekend. 606 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: I can only imagine the numbers that your Twitch stream did, 607 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: but you brought all the fun, the life, the thing 608 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 2: that makes the UNBA All Star Weekend special. You made 609 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: that very apparent for the people and those of us 610 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: who weren't there. I felt like I was there wh 611 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: y'all were at the club singing Keisha Cold with Paige Beckers. 612 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I felt like I was with y'all. So I want 613 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: to thank you. 614 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: For bringing that sense of enjoyment to everybody who was 615 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: watching from home. So it is, and I listen if 616 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: i'm you know, I know they got the deal on 617 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: switch on Twitch. 618 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 619 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what their what their deal looks like, 620 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: but I think those two ladies earn themselves some money 621 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: this weekend, and there's no. 622 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: Question about it. 623 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: They deserve all the sponsorship, and really, you know, it's 624 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 2: too bad their planing. But like for really any event, 625 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: people need to think about an alternative broadcast with them. 626 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that out there. Don't want any credit, 627 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: don't want a piece of the path, but throwing it 628 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: out there and maybe some of y'all who have these 629 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: other events to think about hiring the stub buds to 630 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: bring some life to your event. For sure, well listen. 631 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: I want to thank all of you for joining me 632 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: for this quick mini episode of Politics that also simulcast 633 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: on YouTube live. 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