1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: dayba q At podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen. It's Friday, the twenty fourth of May. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Here in London. I'm Caroline Hedge. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. City of London 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: execs tel Bloomberg. They want certainty from the general election result, 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: with many open to a labor government. 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: G seven finance ministers and central bankers meet in Italy. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Is their economies take different growth paths. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Plus weighing up a starring role in the AI. Boom 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Alphabet and Meta offer multimillion dollar deals to partner with Hollywood. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: Financial industry executives and the City of London say they're 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: looking for clarity from the general election, with many open 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: to a labor government. In past votes, the incumbent Conservative 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: parties argued labor couldn't be trusted with the economy, but 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: a range of business leaders of toe Bloom, the opposition party, 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: has shown it's willing to listen to UKPLC. Lloyd's of 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: London CEO John Neil told Bloomberg Radio earlier this year. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 2: Britain needs stability no matter who wins. 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: I think we all need the confidence of a two 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: term government, whatever that government is, because we just need 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: the sense that there is a plan and that plan 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: is going to have to stretch beyond one term a government. 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: So I would say we need change, and I'm not 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: saying that has to be a labor government versus a 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: conservative government. We do need to change. We cannot carry 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: on the way we are. 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: You can listen to the full interview with John Neil 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: online by searching for Daybreak Europe's Bullish Britain podcast. Bloomberg 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: has learned that the Chancellor Jeremy Hunt and his labor 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: counterpart Rachel Reeves may go head to head in a 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: televised debate on the economy ahead of polling day. 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: G seven finance ministers are meeting in Italy today as 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: officials confront the prospect of increasing monetary policy divergence while 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: cooling price pressure and lack luster growth and likely to 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: drive rate cup in the Eurozone and the UK. In 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the US, a durable economy and sticky inflation are leading 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: to a wait and see approach from the Fed. Italian 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Minister Jiancarlo Georgetti, who is hosting the G seven meeting, 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: says that growing turmoil around the world is also front 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: of mind for those attending. 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: The Geopolitical tension increases every day, not only in Ukraine, 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: but in severe part of the world. That means that 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: here are G seven countries and Western democracies. That means 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: that we have to decide together, how could share a 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: common value, a common perhaps answer to these challengers. 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: John Carlo Georgetti, speaking there as the G seven, also 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: converges on a US plan to squeeze value out of 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: frozen Russian assets to support Ukraine. The move would secure 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: as much as fifty billion dollars in critical financing for 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine and help shield it from political shift on both 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: sides of the Atlantic. 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Siganty is shutting down and suspending redemptions in an abrupt 55 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: end for one of ages Asia's largest hedge funds. Sources 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: tell Bloomberg redemptions requests had hit one billion dollars after 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: an insider trading scandal spooked investors. Bloomberg's Manual Baguri says 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: on the unwinding of the firm's five billion assets under 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: management is causing a stir in Asia. 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 5: I can tell you that the community you know is 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: talking on the top about these topic here in Hong 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 5: Kong and the impact he may have on other firms 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: as well. It highlights the severe impact in confidence right 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: when these insider trading canosat hit a firm, Lake Siganty 65 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: definitely has a big impact. 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: Brigori adds that the firm says it could liquidate eighty 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: four percent of its portfolio within a day and ninety 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: seven percent within five days. Bloomberg has learned Saganty's liquid 69 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: holdings have included e startups Klarna, Ola, Bundle and Enable. 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: Sources Tel Bloomberg, Elon Musk's SpaceX has initiated discussions about 71 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: selling existing shares at a price that could value the 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: closely held company at roughly two hundred billion dollars. The 73 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: story from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 74 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 6: Sources Tel Bloomberg. SpaceX is discussing a tender offer that 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 6: may kick off in June. The price for the offer 76 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 6: has not been decided, but sources say SpaceX is weighing 77 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 6: offering shares at one hundred eight to one hundred ten 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 6: dollars a piece. A two hundred billion dollar valuation would 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 6: be a premium to the one hundred eighty billion valuation 80 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 6: the company obtained through its most recent tender offer. In 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 6: New York, Charlie Pellett, Bloomberg, Radio. 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: City Group, Barclay's and HSBC are ramping up demands for 83 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: staff to return to the office five days a week. 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: The order comes as shifting regulation from the financial industry 85 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: Regulatory Authority forces World Street firms to reinstate pre pandemic 86 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: rules for monitoring workplaces. HSBC's us CEO Michael Roberts says 87 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to force employees back to working in person. 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 7: Well, make sure that whoever needs to be a fighter's 89 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 7: week will be here frider weeks. But I don't want 90 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 7: to decree people coming back. I want them to come 91 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 7: back as they want to come back, and they do so, 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 7: and they're productive, they feel good about it, and that's 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 7: essentially the environment we have built today. 94 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Hspc's Michael Roberts. They're speaking to Bloomberg. While some lenders 95 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: are blaming new rules for the changes, others, including Barclay's, 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: cite the benefits of office working, such as collaboration and culture. 97 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: It may spell the end of remote working from any 98 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: deal makers, but regulators say they're trying to encourage greater flexibility, 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: not less. 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Alphabet and Meta offering Hollywood studios millions of dollars to 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: partner with them on AI video generation software. Both companies 102 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: are developing technology that can create realistic scenes from a 103 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: text prompt. Open having similar conversations with studios last month, 104 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: the chief operating officer, Bred Brad Lightcap said that open 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: ai will work towards building media partnerships. 106 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 8: We have a long way to go, I think, to 107 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 8: build those tools still and start to work with the 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 8: industry to get there, but we are committed to doing 109 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 8: that work and that's really where I think the foundation 110 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 8: of our partnership efforts come from. And then also being 111 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 8: able to just bring what is source of truth information 112 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 8: into the chat GPT experience for people. 113 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: That was open AI's Brad Lightcap speaking there. Hollywood studios 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: are keen to discuss ways to use AI to reduce 115 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: costs whilst also protecting themselves from having their work stolen. Now, 116 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: in a moment, we are going to be talking about 117 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: the G seven gathering in Italy, very beautiful part of Italy. 118 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: In a moment talking about the most serious issues affecting 119 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: those countries. Also, we are into electioneering in the election 120 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: campaign here in the UK, so we'll talk about that too. 121 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: But first this story caught my eye. So New Zealand. 122 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: This feels a bit like you've been searching for our 123 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: property online Friday. 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Why not look. I know that New Zealand is a 125 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: very long way from the UK, but it has been 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: enormously popular with the super rich, especially Americans, and especially 127 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: doomsday preppers. Not so many of those perhaps here in 128 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: the UK, but certainly plenty of them in the US, 129 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and a lot have been looking to New Zealand as 130 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: one of these wonderful places where you might be able 131 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: to have that kind of splended isolation. 132 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: Really is the thing that's being offered. But of course 133 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: New Zealand change the rules in twenty eighteen which doesn't 134 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: allow people who aren't citizens or tax residents of the 135 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: country to buy property there. There's a debate under way 136 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: though in the current government, because that under the previous 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: government these rules are put in place, but whether or 138 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: not to change those rules, and our colleague Ainsy Thompson 139 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: has been writing about it quite quite honestly fantastic house. 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: That's great photos as well, worth looking. You know, one 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: of these beautiful isolated ranch type properties that you could buy. 142 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: But it's actually this is having a huge effect on 143 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: the market that these buyers are bars from getting into 144 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: the market if you're, as I say, not a setisen our, 145 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: a tax resident. So it'd be very interesting to see 146 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: if the current government would consider in the budget. We 147 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: weren't able to get an answer out of the politicians 148 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: in New Zealand that we spoke to. They pointed to 149 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: the next budget as being a potential source of somewhere 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: that an announcement might be made, but an interesting one 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: to watch and perhaps if you are a super rich 152 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: person looking for an isolated rush, maybe that's right. 153 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's close to vineyards and golfing 154 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: and skiing. I mean this Friday it sounded fantastic. Yes. 155 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: Next week, though, you see, LINT will have its budget 156 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: and so perhaps we will get an answer on that point. 157 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: Let's turn back to matters more concretely here in the UK, 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: latest consumer confidence biggers improving for a second consecutive month. 159 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: Welcome news, no doubt for the Prime minister who called 160 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: that general election this week. For the fourth of July, 161 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: a campaign expected to be fought in large part on 162 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: living standards and the economy. Our UK correspondent Lizzie Burden 163 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: is with us for more and of course across all 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: of the developments in the election campaign. Lizzie, we've been 165 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: reporting today about how the has been thinking about this 166 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: election campaign. What have we been hearing about the mood 167 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: among executives and as what sort of impact might that 168 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: have on the campaign. 169 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 9: Good vibes as they have been really for the past 170 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 9: couple of years building up to this election. Caroline and 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 9: I have been to party conference and we've seen firsthand 172 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 9: the enthusiasm among business leaders for a change of government. 173 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 9: You have to under whether that's actually because the polls 174 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 9: suggest Labor are going to be the next government and 175 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 9: so they want to cozy up and have influence. But 176 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 9: really we're looking forward to these manifestos to see what 177 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 9: the detail will be because so far it's been rolling 178 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 9: out the red carpet for business, promises of stability and growth, 179 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 9: respect for Rachel Reeves and a Boek rank of England credentials. 180 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 9: Can they translate that into serious policy when, as you say, 181 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 9: both parties are extremely fiscally constrained. One of the key 182 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 9: measures of success on this front post election will be 183 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 9: can they bring listings back to London. If you look 184 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 9: at the stats at the moment, just two percent of 185 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 9: the twelve billion dollars raised for IPOs in Europe this 186 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 9: year went to the London Stock Exchange. Yes, we've had 187 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 9: some big names recently announcing plans to list in London, 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 9: like Shean and Raspberry Pie, but the situation since Brexit 189 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 9: has been pretty diret more and more companies listing elsewhere. 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 9: So you can expect to hear throughout the next six weeks. 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 9: Both parties planned for how they're going to encourage more 192 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 9: companies to bring their business and keep their business in the. 193 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: UK, although wisely surely the Labor Party have been reluctant 194 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: and to make big promises on that front. It is 195 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: a very difficult thing for a government to turn around, 196 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: you know, private business listing in the UK. But look, 197 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: the election campaign is fully underway. 198 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 9: What comes next, Well, we're going to see Parliament in 199 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 9: place today the Commons and the Lords, but then formally 200 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 9: dissolved on Thursday. So until then very little legislation is 201 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 9: likely to be passed, except in a thing that passes 202 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 9: by consensus, then you have every common seat vacant, so 203 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 9: there'll be no more MPs, just ministers. They can make 204 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 9: decisions in the national interest, but they have to do 205 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 9: it in consultation with Kirs Starmer. Then you've got to 206 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 9: have candidates delivering their nomination papers by June the seventh, 207 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 9: and that might be quite a scramble because of course 208 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 9: this is a snap election. And then most excitingly for us, 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 9: we'll get the manifest Stowe Pledges leaking out and then 210 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 9: if you look at history, it's about eighteen to twenty 211 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 9: nine days before the election that they're usually fully published. 212 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 9: But on the detail of the economics, I'm really looking 213 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 9: forward to hopefully getting a television debate between the Chancellor 214 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 9: Jeremy Hunt and his Labor counterpart Rachel Reeves. 215 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: Okay, and give us a little snapshot as because of 216 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: what we're expecting from the campaigning today. 217 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 9: Well, the opposition Labor leader Kirs Starmer's heading up to Scotland, 218 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 9: as we've been covering on the Bloomberg UKPE Politics podcast, 219 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 9: an absolutely key battleground for Labour, really trying to capitalize 220 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 9: on the disarray in the Scottish Nationalist Party, National Party. 221 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 9: But remember Labor used to dominate north of the border, 222 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 9: so it's not an impossibility that they could do that again. 223 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 9: In twenty ten they had forty one of the fifty 224 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 9: nine seats in Westminster in Scotland, but that kind of 225 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 9: collapsed with support for independence. Can they get it back now? 226 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 9: So kirst Arma today is going to be focusing on 227 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 9: energy policy and their proposal within Labor for a publicly 228 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 9: owned clean power company called Great British Energy. Can he 229 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 9: inspire votes north of the border? 230 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Okay? Really interesting? Thank you so much to you Lizzie 231 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: Burden for being with us or UK correspondent. 232 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: Turning next to the finance ministers and central bank governors 233 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: from the Group of Seven Nations who are gathering in 234 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: Straisa and Italy. US Secretary of the Treasury Janet Yellen 235 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: will be there with as more aid for Ukraine will 236 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: be one key issue on the agenda. This meeting happening 237 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: before the G seven leaders summit in June, which Ukraine's 238 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: President Vadi mer Zelinski is expected to attend. Let's go 239 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: live to Stressa and Italy and join our correspondent to 240 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: Oliver Crook, who's there Oliver, good morning. Ukraine's finance minister 241 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: is going to be at this gathering. At frozen Russian 242 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: assets and their proceeds a key issue up for discussion. 243 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Stephen, this is going to be kind 244 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 10: of the main project here for the finance ministers is 245 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 10: to try to get an architecture that everybody is happy 246 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 10: with that then the leaders can sign off on on 247 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 10: three weeks that will somehow monetize the Russian assets that 248 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 10: are being held by central banks across the world in 249 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 10: a meaningful way, not just in these sort of the 250 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 10: profits that are generated every year to the tune of 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 10: about three billion years. What they're trying to do is 252 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 10: write a big, big check about fifty billion dollars and 253 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 10: basically amortize that and kind of link that to the 254 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 10: future earnings of those Russian assets. However, it is a 255 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 10: little bit more complicated. As ever with these things, the 256 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 10: devil is in the details. There are a lot of 257 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 10: questions about let's say the war ends in five years, 258 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 10: you've committed fifteen years of future profits. Who then is 259 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 10: going to pave to fill that gap? And those are 260 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 10: the kinds of questions that the finance ministers need to 261 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 10: answer here, and really there's a couple there's a couple 262 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 10: other things. Why this is extremely important for the G seven. 263 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 10: They need to continue to demonstrate unity. Jennet Yellen said 264 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 10: yesterday Putin is counting on everybody sort of fatigue on 265 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 10: this and not to stand by Ukraine. But also, let's 266 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 10: not forget we're a few months away from a US 267 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 10: presidential election. For the Europeans and for the G seven 268 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 10: that are currently empowered, this is a way of trump 269 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 10: proofing financing for the Ukraine defense into the future. 270 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll speaking of Janet Yellen. She will be laying 271 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: out her priorities for the G seven later. How much 272 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: she thinks she's going to also say about the trade 273 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: threat from China. 274 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, so what's really interesting about this, Caroline, is that 275 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 10: it's not really in the communicating terms of the items 276 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 10: that are technically on the agenda, China is not mentioned 277 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 10: by name. However, Jenny Yellen has made it extremely clear 278 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 10: that this is one of her priorities, and again it 279 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 10: is partially to try to demonstrate unity among the G 280 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 10: seven In terms of the language about China. This conversation 281 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 10: about overcapacity, whether the Chinese are over manufacturing and dumping 282 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 10: it onto global economies is something that Jennie Yellen wants 283 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 10: to really get buy in from the Europeans and the 284 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 10: G seven and really the elephant in the room, I 285 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 10: think for these ministers and for essential bankers alone, is 286 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 10: are we actually kind of slowly walking towards a possible 287 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 10: trade war? 288 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 9: Right? 289 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 10: We've got the Biden tariffs coming in. We expect the 290 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 10: ev tariffs from Europe to kick in in a couple 291 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 10: of weeks time. The Chinese have threatened to retaliate. Where 292 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 10: does that leave trade going forward at a time when 293 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 10: the sort of global economy and growth is in question? 294 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 10: And what critically will it mean for inflation. So that's 295 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 10: what we're going to ask some of the central bankers 296 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 10: and finance ministers as we speak to them over the 297 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 10: next couple of days. 298 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 299 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 300 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, 301 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 302 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 303 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 304 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 305 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa device. 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