1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Me forty two Mail with my son Roger sixteen. Mail 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: has started wearing face paint anytime he goes out and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: has started hanging out with a girl that's a bad influence. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: This is okop home with the crazy stories on Earth. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm Sam and Sophia. What would you do for this 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: face paint wearing girl with bad influence hanging out son? 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: Wait? What who's wearing face paint? The son or the girl? 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: The Sun? 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe he's just like in like goth. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: Riley actually went out to a party with us with 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: face paint. We went to Emo night. 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Wait did yeah? Okay, unless you put on more face paint. 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: Riley didn't have face paint on this. 15 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: Phoe had. 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Eyeshadow shadow is much different. Eye shadow is makeup. Face 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: paint is paint like paint. 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: Or I'll wonder what I want to know what it 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: looks like? You know? 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm looking like the full on like 21 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: clown kind of style. 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Emao, oh clo like that what. 23 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: That one Juggalo the Juggalo conference or something or the 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: clown clown something. It's like this like rock band thing. 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: I don't know anyway, this comes from Sun is a Juggalo. 26 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: Oh oh, I was right, I was. 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: I know if juggalo is like like like goth clown. Yeah, 28 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: insane clown posse, that's what it is. Breezy Brie a 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: insane clown clown posse. 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Interesting. 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: So a few months ago my son started failing classes 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: since school just got over, he failed two classes. The 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: kid has gotten a's and b's up until a few 34 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: months ago. Around this same time, he started hanging out 35 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: with some girl from school. I don't know what the 36 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: kids call it these days, but she wears a lot 37 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: of baggy clothing and pale makeup and wears ICP shirts. 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Every time I've seen her. 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: What's ICP? I I've heard of icup where it's like 40 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: spill icup and it's like icup. What's ICP? 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Oh in sane clown posse? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Insane 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: clown posse established this. 43 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I forgot what. I just asked 44 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: you what it was. 45 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know, I said, I we just 46 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: forgot it. 47 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: We just forgot it. 48 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: I was a collective. 49 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: So I google it. I found that there is a 50 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: culture around this band and they call themselves Juggalos. I 51 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: found a lot of negative stuff about Juggalos, so naturally 52 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: I was concerned. 53 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: Some even consider it a gang. Is that true? Is 54 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: it a gang? 55 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Is this like a negative thing? I don't really know 56 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: a lot about it. 57 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: Or is it negative. 58 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Like dressing clowns? 59 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: Is it just clothes having fun? 60 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 61 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: I think my son is in love with her because 62 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: he now always paints his face before he goes out, 63 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: with the exception of when he was going to school, 64 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: he had about five hundred dollars saved up. I guess 65 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: he went out and bought all of these insane clown 66 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: posse shirts and hats. 67 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: So man's in deep. Yeah. 68 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: And a lot of people are saying that the band 69 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: is pretty chill, but the like the fans are a 70 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: little bit are. 71 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: A little crazy. 72 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 73 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Is anyone an insane clown Posse fan? And like knows 74 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: about it? Make it matter? Says the band could be 75 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: a little intense, but I like them. Some people blow 76 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: it way out of proportions. 77 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: That's what kind of sounds like beyond the sun kind 78 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: of failing some classes. It sounds like he's just vibe, 79 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: like he's vibing out. 80 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: I mean, but he is failing classes. 81 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's like, that's the thing that you have 82 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: to dress separately. 83 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: I brought this up with my son and ask him 84 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: if he was on drugs. 85 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: I feel like, Okay, she just sounds a little dramatic. 86 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean that's I feel like that's every mom. Yea. 87 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Literally I would come home surfing like and my and 88 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: my eyes would be bloodshot because of the salt water water, 89 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: and my mom would be like, are you one drug? 90 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Sam? 91 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: She never asked me that. 92 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: She always asked me that, And literally, I'm like, Mom, 93 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: I tell you every time I do drugs. 94 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: It's true. 95 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: I literally like I did acid the other day. 96 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: And she's like, she's like, stop telling. 97 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: Me telling me that. And I'm like, Mom, do you want. 98 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: To Yeah, we're like two cents. Sam tells our parents everything, 99 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: and I don't tell my parents. 100 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: Two weeks after he started dressing this way, he told 101 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: me to mind my own business and slammed his bedroom 102 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: door in my face. If I ever talked to my 103 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: dad that way, I got smacked upside the head. But 104 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: these days it's considered child abuse, so I didn't do 105 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: much at this point. 106 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Hitting children and is considered child abuse. 107 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I waited a few days and tried to talk to 108 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: him about it again. This time he told me that 109 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: I was being dumb and that he wasn't doing drugs. 110 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: I asked him who he was wearing the face paint for. 111 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: He told me that it was no different than me 112 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: wearing kiss makeup when I went to one of their 113 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: concerts years ago. 114 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: Wait, so this is it runs in the family. 115 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 3: It runs in the family. It runs in the family. 116 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not different. 117 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: I told him that I was going to a concert, 118 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: not going to the grocery store to buy a gallon 119 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: of milk? 120 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: Is he going in full making yet? 121 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: Buy anywhere but school? He's going in this makeup. 122 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: It's kind of sick. 123 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a lifestyle alight, Mobby, don't understand it's 124 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: a life style. Yeah. 125 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: The argument really didn't get anywhere, and I decided to 126 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: let it go. This was until we went out for 127 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: our yearly Mother's Day dinner. Oh no, we usually go 128 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: to a decent restaurant, and this year we decided to 129 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: go to macarine Andy Grill. Well, my son decided he 130 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: was going to wear his face paint and insane clown 131 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: posse clothes to this dinner. 132 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: Oh, what do you think? Sophia, you know. 133 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: What, Okay, obviously look like if I were a parent, 134 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: I'd be like, this is a lot. But he's not 135 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: hurting anyone. 136 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: He's not hurting any hurt He's not. But like there 137 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: are dress codes that you should. 138 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. You can't. You can't tell 139 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: a child. You can't like tell a child what to wear? 140 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: Can you not know that? All the time Mom dressed me? 141 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I have pictures of like me wearing outfits and 142 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, why did you let me wear this? And 143 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: she's like, you picked it out? 144 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: I guess it. 145 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Mom didn't did let me wear a lot of skater clothes. 146 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: But if we were ever at a fancy dinner, she 147 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: was like, wear or like going to church or something. 148 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: It seems like he's rebelling, and I feel like he's 149 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: not gonna be receptive. 150 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: To like change your clothes. 151 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think healthy parenting you gotta like gotta 152 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: be like here, are. 153 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: You sure sure you can come out like that? 154 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can come out like that, but like it's 155 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: you know, he might not be received. I feel like 156 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: you can tell them, like you're like, hey, at this day, 157 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: this is the dress code. If you want to wear that. 158 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: But this is the what if they kick you out 159 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: for the dress code, because like there's certain places where 160 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: you have to the car. 161 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: He waits in the car, but she wants to spend 162 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: time with her son. 163 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 164 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: I like, maybe just take him to an insane I 165 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: don't think it's. 166 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: Bad to want people to wear like a nice outfit out, 167 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: but I think it's I don't think. 168 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: If you're inviting people to a wedding, right and there's 169 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: a certain dress code to the wedding and someone wears 170 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: the insane clown posse, I would be. 171 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: Like, why are they wearing that? But I'm not gonna 172 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: like calm out on it. 173 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: But then why I have a dress code if someone's gonna. 174 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not that I don't think that 175 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: you can. It's more so like I don't think he's 176 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: gonna listen, Like it's gonna be a big old fight. 177 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get back into it. So they went to 178 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: this Macaroni girl place. I told him that it wasn't 179 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: the circus and we were celebrating his mother. He got 180 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: very upset and yelled some profanity at me about how 181 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm a horrible father. I don't know, yes, the father. 182 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I was in the wrong here, 183 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: So let me know what you guys think. Because of 184 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: this argument, we didn't go to the dinner. I feel 185 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: horrible about it for my wife's sake, and I did 186 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: make it up to her the next day, but that 187 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: isn't relevant to the issue at hand. So up until 188 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: last week, my son and I have little contact, and 189 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: when I would try to talk to him, he gave 190 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: me the silent treatment. This last weekend, I found something 191 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: no father wishes to ever find. Oh, call me a 192 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: bad father for snooping, but I did. He was out 193 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: doing his thing with this girl and I wanted to 194 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: see if he had any drugs in his room. I 195 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: thought maybe I would find some pot. If I did, 196 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: I would confiscate it and ground him for a few weeks. 197 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: But what I found was a white powdery substance in 198 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: a small ziploc bag. I knew exactly what this was. 199 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I had a cocaine problem before I met my wife, 200 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: so I knew what it looked like. To make sure 201 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I was headed in the right direction, I smelled the 202 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: bag and then just did a lie for good measure. 203 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: OK It was definitely cocaine. Obviously, being a former addict, 204 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to taste it to be one hundred 205 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: percent shore. I went and talked with my wife and 206 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: she was shocked. We didn't know what to do. Yeah, okay, okay, 207 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: So at this point, right now they're being proven Right 208 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: at this point, at this point, what would you do? 209 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: What's the talk that you have? Trump says, yeah, time 210 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: for the top. 211 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: What does the time? 212 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 2: I think at the point of the sun swearing and stuff, 213 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: I think that's that's when you're like. 214 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: Talking about it. You're not being respectful. 215 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think before it was like just you know, 216 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: wearing what he wants to wear. But now it's swearing 217 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: at your parents, and now it's doing like hard drugs. 218 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: So at this point, I think you have to talk 219 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to your son and be like, hey, this is a 220 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: very I've dealt like, and also the dad can be like, 221 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: I've dealt with this before. I know exactly, I know 222 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: how addictive it is. Yeah, op is forty two and 223 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: the sun is sixteen. I mean I feel like that's 224 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: around when like some kids start, Yeah, well, when it's interesting, 225 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: it can be introduced. 226 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: To Yeah, but I mean I think. 227 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: You have to definitely have to talk to them, depending 228 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: on how you grow them. I think a grounding or 229 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: maybe like definitely, I feel like you have to go 230 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: to a doctor, therapist something like that. 231 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then someone said, yeah, Trumpas says addiction is 232 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: also genetic. 233 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. If the father was 234 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: already addicted to cocaine, it could you know, it could 235 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: make the likelihood that the son is going to be 236 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: very addicted. 237 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: All right, wait, but we do have some conspiracy theories. 238 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: So I didn't even think about this. But someone on YouTube, 239 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Janey Moscow, says it's not drugs, and someone else said, 240 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: it's just the paint and powder form. What do we think, Oh, 241 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: I think it's still drugs. 242 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: I think it's still drugs. It is so interesting, but. 243 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: It totally would that would be the lie that I 244 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: would tell. 245 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feelin like it's paint. The only reason I 246 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: don't think that is because the DoD was addicted. 247 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like, I know cocaine and I smelt it. 248 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he didn't taste it. 249 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: Didn't taste it. He didn't taste it. You could be 250 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: but let's see, let's go back to reality. 251 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: And see see what actually happened. So hours later, my 252 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: son showed up with this girl. I called him out 253 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: about what I found, and he completely lost it and 254 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: told me I had no right to go through his things. 255 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: I realized I might be a horrible father for this, 256 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: but I would be even more horrible if he had 257 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: died from an overdose, because like fentamon and is going around. 258 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's really scary. 259 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: He didn't even deny it. After his yelling was finished, 260 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I asked the girl to leave and that this was 261 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: a family matter. Yeah, my son told me to f 262 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: off and took her to his room. No, my wife 263 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: was crying and I was. It took a lot not 264 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: to shap him across the head, but I maintained myself and. 265 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: Didn't resort to that, which is good. He's good. 266 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: What I did next is what I feel was the 267 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: best thing I could do. Tell me, if y'all think 268 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: this is a good move, Court de Brave said, call 269 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: the police. Now, I called the police on them. My 270 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: wife is still very upset with me for this, but 271 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see another way to help him out short 272 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: of physically forcing his girlfriend and him to stay. The 273 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: cops came found that he had some pot. The girl 274 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: was asked to leave, and my son was told if 275 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: he tried to leave, they the cops would take him 276 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: to the youth detention center for a few days. Maya 277 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: two twelve says, the dad seems like a violent person. 278 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: Though I don't know. 279 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: If that's necessarily true, but I think like when you 280 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: maybe grew up with your parents hitting you, like that's 281 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: like your first response, and it sounds like he's not 282 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: doing that, you know. 283 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, he said that 284 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: he did not hit his children. 285 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think calling the cops is excessive. I think 286 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: I think there's but again I. 287 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: Think it is excessive. But also like what do you, 288 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: like what was the right thing to do? Not saying 289 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: that it was right to call the cops, but like 290 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: what what do you do when you find drugs and 291 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: you're trying not to like hit your. 292 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 3: Child and you can't like you want and you don't 293 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: want to. 294 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: Like pull out, like you drag his girlfriend? Now, you know, 295 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: like what is the course of action that you do? 296 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: What do you guys think? Parents? 297 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: But if you physically move the girlfriend, she could say 298 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: like a song, oh. 299 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: No, no, you cannot touch them. 300 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's hard a lost galaxy. I think 301 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: it's just the dad has been through being a druggie 302 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: and wants to make sure his kid doesn't follow this footsteps. Yeah, 303 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: I agree, Fairy Lefs is My whole family's full of addicts. 304 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: If I ever did the hard ones like my family, 305 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: I'd probably want the cops called to me just so 306 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: the addiction doesn't get worse. 307 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not much he can do as someone who 308 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: was addicted. I think he's like realizing I need to 309 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: get myself, like I need to shock my son out 310 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: of this, and yeah, like kicking him out it's not 311 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: going to help him. 312 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, since all of this, my son has been rounded 313 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: and is not allowed to see this girl. 314 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: That's good. 315 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: It's easy for me to blame it all in the girl, 316 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: but I am sure I failed somewhere for my son 317 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: to act this way. 318 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: I can't. I don't think you can blame it all 319 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: on yourself. 320 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: I think it's. 321 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Apparently he's talking about wife and asked her about going 322 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: to some festival Juggalos and ICP has. I looked it 323 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: up and it sounds like bad news. My wife said he. 324 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: Could go without talking to me. I'm at a loss 325 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: at this point. 326 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: That mom was like you can go with yeah. 327 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: Like the mom is like, still take him to the concert, 328 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like probably no. 329 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: If it's like I would not. 330 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: Know good for him. I would not allow. Also, it 331 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: seems like they're he would be going alone. 332 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: I think they would be going together and they would 333 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: go without talking to his son. 334 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: No, no, no, from what I'm not talking. The mom 335 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: said you could go without talking to a piece, like 336 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: running it by it. 337 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 338 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Oh my wife said he could go without talking to me. Yes, 339 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's not cool. 340 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: No, that's not. 341 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: Cool, Like that's not gonna help your son, like get 342 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: the help he needs exactly. 343 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: I am at a loss at this point. While I 344 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: want my son to experience life, he seems to be 345 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: headed down a dangerous road and my wife is enabling it. 346 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 347 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: I did talk to my wife about it, and all 348 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: she can say is that this is our way of 349 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: making up for calling the cops in it. 350 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: But you was no, no, like that needed to happen. 351 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: That needed to happen. 352 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Can someone who has had troubled youths give me some 353 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: pointers here? If I'm going to about it wrong, I 354 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: would appreciate your input. 355 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: What would you guys do? 356 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: And there is a big update, But what do you 357 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: think for you? 358 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: Do you like, like, what would your advice be? 359 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's really hard. I think that Yeah, 360 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: someone said the wife and OP need to get on 361 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 2: the same page because they're going about it in a 362 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: completely different way. And I feel like this is just, 363 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna hurt the sun. 364 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: I think like it feels like they're not They're a 365 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: little bit tu lax with him now. I feel like 366 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. But there is a thick, 367 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: juicy update. First off, I got a lot of different 368 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: advice and some personal messages from a number of people. 369 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Some of the advice has been helpful, some of it 370 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: not so much. There was a particular user that said 371 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: I was a piece of shit. 372 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: And didn't deserve children. 373 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't believe anything I said warranted such an accusation 374 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: either way, Thanks to everyone for the advice. Anyway, Now 375 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: for the update. So I showed my wife some of 376 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: the responses on this thread. She was annoyed at first 377 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: that I let strangers in on our problem, but seemed 378 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: okay with it once she was done going through your responses. 379 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: She was very shocked about what goes on at the festival. 380 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: She had agreed to let my son go. We watched 381 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: a couple of videos posted, and she was horrified by 382 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: the drug bridge the most what's the drug bridge? We 383 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: agreed that my son would not be able to go 384 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: without adult supervision. As for my wife and I not 385 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: being on the same page, she agrees with myself and 386 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: some of you that we need couple's therapy to see 387 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: figure out a better resolution to disagreements about our children. 388 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: I made the appointment this monk as I didn't want 389 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: to wait until we just decided we didn't need it. 390 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Some of you probably know how that goes. One user 391 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: sent me a personal message who had actually gone on 392 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: a tour as a supporting band member I believe at 393 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: some point with the ICP, which is the Insane Clown Posse, 394 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: and had some interesting and good insight on them. I 395 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: won't go into who it was, but he was a 396 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: pretty decent sounding guy, and I realized that the problem 397 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: here has little to do with music my son is 398 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: listening to. 399 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is more about something. 400 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: He is going through and we need to figure out 401 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: that and help him with it. 402 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't think it's like the necessarily the 403 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: band and like being into that. I think it's just 404 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: like they're rebelling. 405 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 406 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Now for our son, After my wife and I talked 407 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: about the situation. 408 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: We decided it'd be best if we had. 409 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: A friendly conversation with our son, one that would not 410 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: include yelling for my wife or myself, even if our 411 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: son raised his voice. We were going to tell him 412 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: our decision on the concert and see if we could 413 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: find some common ground on a few other issues. So 414 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: last night we sat him down when we had gotten 415 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: back from hanging with his female friend. She came with 416 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: him as she needed to grab something that was in 417 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: his room. She had a DVD case in her hand 418 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: when she left, so I'm assuming that is all at 419 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: what Before she left. I did apologize to her about 420 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: yelling at her the other day. I didn't apologize about 421 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: calling the cop. I know there are mixed feelings on this. 422 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: To be clear, I flushed the cocaine before the police 423 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: arrived and had no idea that my son had pot 424 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: in him. I initially called the cops because his friend 425 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: refused to leave. I had no intention of having anyone arrested. 426 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Oh so someone who I asked, well, yell that to leave, 427 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: but they didn't. It is possible if I spoke calmly 428 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: with her when I asked her, it would have worked 429 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: out better for all of us. 430 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that actually does change a lot, because I 431 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people were upset about him, 432 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: like calling the you. 433 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Know, the cops on his side and again, but the 434 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: cocaine wasn't there. Yeah, it wasn't. 435 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: It was. 436 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't supposed to be a drug. 437 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: It was. 438 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that wasn't the reason. It was to evict 439 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: someone from his place. 440 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: That makes a lot more sense anyway. 441 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Back to the point. So she seemed a bit surprised 442 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: to her son. She left shortly after, and that is 443 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: when we asked her son if we could have a chat. 444 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: He resisted at first and tried to walk away, but 445 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: I said, please, son, I just want to talk. I'm 446 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: not going to yell. I just want to know what 447 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I can do to be a better father. Oh that's 448 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: really sweet. That's really sweet. I feel like this is 449 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: a good dad trying his best. It worked, even if 450 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: he looked annoyed. Before I got into the drug use 451 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: or the insane clown posse and face paint stuff. I 452 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: asked him if he was all right. I asked him 453 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: if he needed to talk to someone, therapist, me, his mother. 454 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: He kind of just sat there. My wife asked him 455 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: the same thing with a different phrasing, to see if 456 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: she could get him to open up. At this point, 457 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: he started tear up, and I could tell he wanted 458 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: to say something. I shut my mouth, though, and continued 459 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: to let my wife work on him opening him up. 460 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: Since we have been clashing, I didn't want to ruin 461 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: this opportunity. This is really cute, This is like, this 462 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: is really this is like I think how parenting she 463 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: had done. After a few minutes, he basically started saying 464 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: he was having a hard time about his friend's death. 465 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't know that. 466 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: I won't go into many details, but he said he 467 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: had stopped going to the therapist before he just didn't 468 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: feel like it was helping. All this time, my wife 469 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: and I thought he had moved forward with that, yet 470 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: he was still trying. 471 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 3: To work through it. 472 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: Ah. 473 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: He cried, my wife cried, I cried, sad, we all cried, 474 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: and after several months of him not allowing me to 475 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: hug him. 476 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: He let me. 477 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: It was a hug that lasted for a few minutes. 478 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: I felt like I had my son back and that 479 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: he had me back as well. From everyone's comments, I 480 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: really needed to realize that while I am not a 481 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: bad father, I needed to work on being better. I 482 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: feel like this was a good first step. So after 483 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: this part of our conversation, we got onto the other 484 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: serious issues, such as the drug use. I asked him 485 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: why he had cocaine in his room. He then said 486 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have gone through his stuff and that I 487 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: needed to respect his privacy. I told him I was 488 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: only concerned for him and that was the only reason 489 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: I did it. I told him that cocaine is a 490 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: dangerous drug and that I know that from personal experience. 491 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: He seemed taken back by this and gave me a 492 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: confused look. Told him that I had a drug problem, 493 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: specifically cocaine, which really cool that he's opening up and 494 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: explain how messed up I was before I got help 495 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: and before I met his mother. He looked shocked that 496 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I could relate to him in regards to drug use. 497 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: I told him I just wanted to make sure he 498 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: was safe. I asked him how long he was doing it, 499 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: and to my surprise, he said he has never done it. 500 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: He told us that it wasn't his. He said that 501 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: it was a friend of his, not the girl, but 502 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: in the same circle of friends, and they gave it 503 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: to him and it was pressuring him into trying it, 504 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: but he hadn't had a desire to try it. I 505 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: calmly asked him if his friend was a drug dealer. 506 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: For me, that was the only thing that made sense 507 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: on why he would try to get my son hooked 508 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: on such an expensive and very dangerous drug. Of course, 509 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: the answer was yes. At this point, I didn't have 510 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: a reason not to believe him because he was being 511 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: very open about everything. I did, however, ask him if 512 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: he would do a random drug test. If I asked him, 513 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: he said yes, but it would show that he has 514 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: only been smoking pot. It is a relief knowing that 515 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't doing cocaine. I can deal with the pot 516 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot easier than having to get him off cocaine. 517 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: After discussing this, my wife and I we're both still 518 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: pretty calm, so we moved to the final part of 519 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: our conversation, the insane clown posse issue. 520 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: Which is like such a funny return to it. 521 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 522 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, AJ says, Op is breaking my heart. Trumpe said, 523 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: third try. I'm so glad he opened up about his fiction. 524 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that. I just kept trying, and I 525 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: think that's what you gotta do. 526 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: My wife started this part by apologizing to me for 527 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: giving the okay to let him go to the festival. 528 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: She then pulled up one of the videos on her 529 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: iPad and handed it to over him. She told him 530 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: to watch it. I think he knew where this was 531 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: headed because he looked kind of upset after the video. 532 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: She then told him that we both decided it was 533 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: not a good idea for him to go to this 534 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: festival without an adult. He was upset, no yelling at first, 535 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: but I had one last idea to maybe get him 536 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: to understand why. I pulled up the personal message from 537 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: the guy from a band that turned with ICP and 538 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: let him read it. Apparently he knew of the band 539 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: and the guy and this got through to him better 540 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: than my wife or I could. So this is because 541 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: I was supposed to read it. Wow, because like someone 542 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: from the Insane band was like, I speak to this kid. 543 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: Oh wow, My wife. 544 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: And I agree that, depending on his reaction, we could 545 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: try to work it out to him. Maybe my son 546 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: and I would go for a day. There were a 547 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: few factors that we needed to work out for this 548 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: to happen. When we told him this, he took it 549 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: better than we thought. He did ask if he could 550 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: take his girlfriend. Found out that they were dating at 551 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: this moment. We said that we would have to speak 552 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: with his girl's parents and get to know her better. 553 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: We agreed to that, and I am currently trying to 554 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: work the concert part out. Many might disagree with me, 555 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: but if I am there, I can make sure that 556 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: him and his girlfriend aren't getting into any trouble. Now, 557 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: we understand that not all insane clown posse culture is bad, 558 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: so we are compromising with him a bit on the 559 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: face paint and the music part of it. We asked 560 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: if he would consider not wearing the face paint all 561 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: the time when we go out. We explained that while 562 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't embarrass us, it does cause a distraction. He 563 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: agreed that when we go to family functions or dinners 564 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: he would not wear it, but would still most likely 565 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: wear the shirts. We thought it was a good compromise. 566 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: Things are headed in a positive direction, and my relationship 567 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: with my son has gotten better over the last twenty 568 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: four hours. There are still some things to work out, 569 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: but I appreciate everyone's input on this, even if it 570 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: was calling me. 571 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: A piece of shit parent. 572 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: I hope that after some time, he will try to 573 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: stay away from these bad influences in his life, like 574 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: his drug dealing friend. My hope is that once I 575 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: give his girlfriend a chance and stop judging her simply 576 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: from the insane clown posse culture, that I can actually 577 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: get to like her. Some of you might be disappointed 578 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: that I didn't throw him in juvie and make him 579 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: give up on juggalo culture. That he needs to find himself, 580 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: and I need to do my best to be there 581 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: for him. He's a good kid that just happened to 582 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: find himself with the wrong friends. I won't consider his 583 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: girlfriend about influence quite yet. I need to get to 584 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: know her better. 585 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the fine love date Hello again. 586 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: Read it. Some of you may be interested in knowing 587 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: how things have been going, and if we ended up 588 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: going to the concert, I'll give you some insight on 589 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: this final update. I don't anticipate needing to add any 590 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: more after this update, so I went with the advice 591 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: to get him back into therapy right away. We decided 592 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: in order for him to get to the concert, we 593 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: needed to get him in there and also give family 594 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 2: therapy a try. The biggest thing we all learned from 595 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: family therapy is that we lack in communication. While the 596 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: talk we had in my last update was a good 597 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: stepping zone, we still have ways to go, but we 598 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: are headed in the right direction. With time, I think 599 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: we'll be back to a healthy and trusting relationship. Now 600 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: for Roger and his girlfriend, I also mentioned that I 601 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: needed to meet with this girl's parents. It took some convincing, 602 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: but I was able to go over to her house 603 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: and have a conversation with her father about a week 604 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: or so before the concert. Unbeknownst to me, her mother 605 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: was out of the picture and had been since she 606 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: was about seven or eight. Her house is kind of 607 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: run down, and her father invites me inside. Immediately, I 608 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: can smell a combination of cigarette smoke and stale beer, 609 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: which was extremely strong. It was a mess. It looked 610 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: like someone threw a party and forgot to clean up. 611 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: I suddenly felt bad for the girl, and felt even 612 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: worse for judging her. She was obviously a victim of 613 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: a broken home. Despite the conditions, the conversation was productive 614 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: and we talked about her going to the concert if 615 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: he was okay with it. He agreed it would be fine, 616 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: but said he didn't have the money to tell with 617 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: any of the costs. I said we would take care 618 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: of it. I was there for less than ten minutes. 619 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm being judgmental of her father, but I felt bad, 620 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: and we have had her over for dinner several times 621 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: a week now. We have learned a lot about her, 622 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: and she is just a damaged youth trying to get 623 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: by with the hand she was dealt. She hasn't indicated 624 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: any abuse, and she does appear to love her father 625 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: a lot. She just hasn't really opened up about anything 626 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: in short of being suspicious of child abuse. I don't 627 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: know if it's really our business, so we haven't pushed it. 628 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: Now for the concert, the three of us, son, his girlfriend, 629 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: and myself headed to the concert and were planning on 630 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: being there for two days, the twenty fifth and the 631 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: twenty sixth. We got there Friday evening and there were 632 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: people all over the place, all kinds of people. My 633 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: son and his girlfriend wore FACEPNT, but so was about 634 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: half the people I saw. I felt out of place, 635 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: but at the same time, I was glad I didn't 636 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: let them come alone. The smell of skunk weed was strong. 637 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: Right as we walked into the entrance. I saw some 638 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: people trying to sell drugs, but we pretty much just 639 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: ignored them. We didn't really have any issues, and the 640 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: two of them enjoy themselves. I gave them their space 641 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: and DI didn't cover, but I did keep an eye 642 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: on them from a distance. I didn't think being within 643 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: a few feet of them would have been very encouraging 644 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: on the progress we have made through therapy. I had 645 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: to trust them a little bit and know they would 646 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: make the right choice. Overall, it was a good experience 647 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: for my son and his girlfriend. It wasn't my type 648 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: of atmosphere, but I wasn't there for me. I was 649 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: there to support my son and just to try and 650 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: be a good father. Thanks for all the advice, and 651 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: we will continue to work on growing a strong foundation 652 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: as a family. What a lovely story. I'm really glad 653 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: that the father like op like stepped up and was like, 654 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna have a serious conversation and I'm 655 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: not gonna yell. And it wasn't from a place of 656 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: like anger, literally just from a place of like I 657 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: care for you and I want an. 658 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: Invest for you, like love winds time. 659 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean this seems like the sun really appreciated it. Today, 660 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 2: I aft up by finding out what my eight year 661 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: old son was saving for the lead it says, before 662 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: we start this, I want to tell everyone this is 663 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: a happy today. I afft up when I was a 664 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: sixteen year old. I was stupid, I didn't wear a 665 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: production and I got a girl pregnant. I was shocked. 666 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: I never expected to having a kid that early, and 667 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if I regretted or not. Almost all 668 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: of my regrets washed away when my first son was born. 669 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: For privacy purposes, we will call him Rory. I am 670 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: twenty four now and my son is seven, almost eight now. 671 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: He's the smartest and most loving kid I could ever 672 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: ask for. His mom had left when he was around two. 673 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: When I tried to sue for child support, the judge 674 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: sided with her, quoting that I was the father and 675 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: needed to step up. Ever since then, it has been 676 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: me and Rory against the world. I was a single 677 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: dad to Rory from then on. I had a few girlfriends, 678 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: but nothing serious. I left my parents' place and got 679 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: a small apartment. I dropped out of high school, which 680 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: I still immensely regret, but hey, life happened during this time. 681 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: My neighbors, God bless them, helped me raise my son. 682 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 2: They were an older couple next door whose kids had 683 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: moved out long before, so they were fine babysitting him 684 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: after school, late shifts, etc. I'm a manager at McDonald's. 685 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: I make lousy money, but it was enough to get 686 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: by then. Two years prior, our shitty building manager raised 687 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: the rent for everyone and I had to work even 688 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: harder for a place to live during a pandemic. My 689 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: parents had left the state, and I wasn't ready to 690 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: uplift my and cut my kid's entire life because his 691 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: dad couldn't provide for him. Every birthday since before he 692 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: was three, I believe I took Rory to Golden Coral 693 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: usually on his birthday, but there were more occasions when 694 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: we went. It was really good for him and he 695 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. I haven't been able to take him 696 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: for the past two years due to money being very tight. 697 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: This is important for lature. Sometimes I will get tipped 698 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: at McDonald's a quarter here, a dime here, a dollar 699 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: here and there. I'll bring it to him every day 700 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: and give it to Rory to save. He's giving his 701 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: son tube. That's so cute. Well, two days ago, Rory 702 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: brings me his money jug and dumps it all out 703 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: in front of me. He was so excited and began 704 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: counting it out. So there was around forty dollars there, 705 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: and he jumped up excitedly. I had asked him, what's up, 706 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: little buddy. When I tell you, guys, my heart broke. 707 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: My son asked me if it was enough to go 708 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: to the Coral before his birthday. A piece of me 709 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: shattered inside. I didn't think he remembered the Golden Corral. 710 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: I told him we couldn't go to the bank tomorrow 711 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: and exchange it for cash. That night, I ugly cried 712 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: in my bedroom. I felt like a failure because I 713 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: couldn't give him everything he's ever wanted. I began researching, 714 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: furthering my education. Well, yesterday, as soon as the bank opened, 715 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: I took my son and we exchanged the money for cash. 716 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: I then drove us to Golden Corral and we were 717 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: there for two hours. My kid was so happy, and 718 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: I was stupid because I just assumed he forgot this place. 719 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: We got the all you can eat buffet for two 720 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: for thirty dollars. Today I cried again in my room. 721 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: I've never been good at saving money, but his birthday 722 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: is next month, and I'm going to do my best 723 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: to take him every few months. So other parents have 724 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: read it, and I asked some advice of how you 725 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: deal with the guilt of having to say no. Edit one. 726 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: Also if anyone asks, I'll post a pick up the 727 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: coins and the container they were in. He saved them 728 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: in a cotton candy container Forssico. Edit two kids money, 729 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: jug and his coins posted on my profile. Thanks for 730 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: the gold. This is my first across my two counts, 731 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: so they got three gold. 732 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 733 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: Now I wish I would have posted this on my 734 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: main lol. Edit five turning off dms and replies because 735 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of trolls. Hope everyone is a 736 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: great day.