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Speaker 1: Welcome to Know Your Foe on Colts dot Com and

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Speaker 1: in death look at the upcoming matchup. Here are your

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Speaker 1: host Casey Valier and former Colts wide receiver Bill Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Time for another installment of Know Your Foe right here

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Speaker 1: on Colts dot Com. Welcome in. I am your host

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Speaker 1: Casey Valley, joined us always by Bill Brooks, who is

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Speaker 1: a member of the Colts Ring of Honor. The Colts

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Speaker 1: are under the bright lights of primetime football for the

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Speaker 1: second straight week. This week on the road. They're in

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Speaker 1: Dallas at AT and T Stadium to take on the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys for Sunday Night Football and to get us in

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Speaker 1: the note on the Cowboys is Todd Archer of ESPN. Todd,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. How are you guys doing. We're doing

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Speaker 1: all right. We're you know, as expected to be. Where

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Speaker 1: this team is another primetime game. Last last week didn't

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Speaker 1: go as expected. But this week, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: new week. You never know what to expect. But this

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Speaker 1: Dallas team, I mean, they're one of the best teams

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Speaker 1: in the league, and it seems that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I want to start. Dak Prescott comes back from the injury.

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Speaker 1: We saw what we saw at a Cooper rush. But

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Speaker 1: it seems like since Dak has been back, this team

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Speaker 1: has really elevated their game. How has he helped elevate

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Speaker 1: this team? Yeah, it took a little bit for everything

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Speaker 1: to start rolling, but you're right. In the last five

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Speaker 1: games they're number one, and offensive points per game number one,

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Speaker 1: and third down percentage number two in red zone, he's

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Speaker 1: completing seventy two percent of his passes the one downside

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Speaker 1: or maybe a couple downside. They have too many pre

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Speaker 1: snap penalties and he's been intercepted too many times. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is as good as this offense has played all years.

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Speaker 1: What they got going on now, and it's almost a

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Speaker 1: complete offense to the last year when they started past

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Speaker 1: and kind of fizzled down the stretch. This year, they

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Speaker 1: started slow, in part because Dak was out with the

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Speaker 1: thumb injury, but they really kind of picked it up

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Speaker 1: here in the last five weeks and they feel like

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Speaker 1: they found they found a good rhythm offensively that they

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Speaker 1: can sustain for the rest of the year. Now, Todd,

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Speaker 1: another reason I believe this offense is playing at a

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Speaker 1: high level is a player both wanting backs Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard. How has this one two punch elevated

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Speaker 1: this Cowboys offense? Yeah, you know, I think that is

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Speaker 1: the engine of this offense. Really. It kind of makes

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Speaker 1: everything go. It makes those third down opportunities easier and shorter.

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcels when he was a coach, he used to say,

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Speaker 1: the best red zone teams are the ones that run

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Speaker 1: it into the end zone. Those guys have thirteen rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing both of those guys really compliment each other.

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Speaker 1: Zeke is the power guy that we all know pick

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Speaker 1: up the dirty yards. Pollard's the guy that can still

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Speaker 1: run between the tackles, but he's the guy that can

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Speaker 1: is on the field. And the offensive line has really

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Speaker 1: being around and being together for a good portion of

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Speaker 1: the season. They've only had one guy missed two games

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Speaker 1: all year. They're left guard Connomer Governs. Everybody else has

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Speaker 1: basically been in the same spot since Week one. So again,

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Speaker 1: you know, what was a question coming into the season

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Speaker 1: when you don't have a Tyron Smith because of a

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Speaker 1: torn hamstring has now become a strength of this team.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not the way it was, you know, maybe before

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Speaker 1: five years ago and the tyrant met Zach Martin and

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Speaker 1: very good in the NFL. In those two running backs,

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Speaker 1: Lamb this year in his play? Yeah's a little bit

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Speaker 1: where he would be He's on pace for ninety nine catches,

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Speaker 1: that would have been the best number as a Cowboys

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Speaker 1: played really well. The one issue I think three of

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Speaker 1: that's the one area that they kind of get bogged

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Speaker 1: before we switch over to the defense. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: stick lastly on the offense. You mentioned the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Smith was their first round pick and

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith is able to return here in a couple

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Speaker 1: He understands what his strength and weaknesses are. And then

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Speaker 1: that aspect. Now moving over to the defense, it only

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Speaker 1: makes sense to start with the guy who's I think,

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Speaker 1: He's just an unbelievable athlete, Like there really isn't anything

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Speaker 1: And he's hitting legitimate home runs out of this stadium.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not like a little league field. It's like

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Speaker 1: And I covered DeMarcus where his entire career in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys lines of the nineteen nineties, right, and we

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons can play off the ball, he can play outside,

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Speaker 1: in impass rush situation. Sam Williams their second round pick,

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Speaker 1: same thing. Marcus Lawrence moves around. So it's not just

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Speaker 1: their run defense success has been predicated on them taking

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Speaker 1: But I'm interested to see how they handle the run

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Dix had a master year last year with eleven interceptions,

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Speaker 1: both teams are definitely different. For the Cowboys, they are

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Speaker 1: you're continuing to improve, like you're finding your best football.

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Speaker 1: We're realistically or theoretically, or however you want to say,

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Speaker 1: against Philadelphia and Christmas Eve. Well, there you go, Todd Archer,

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Speaker 1: he's covering the Cowboys for ESPN. We got a big

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Speaker 1: game for the Colts and the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football. Todd,

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Speaker 1: thanks again for the time. Really appreciate it. You got it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. The Colts are on the road in

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Speaker 1: Dallas for Sunday Night Football, taking on the Cowboys. Next week,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take the week off as the Colts welcome

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Speaker 1: in there bye week, but a couple of weeks from

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Speaker 1: now we will preview the Minnesota vikings. But this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: it's the Colts and Cowboys in Dallas for Bill Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm Casey Valie. Enjoy the game and go Colts.