1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. Well, here we are again on today's show, 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: same problem, different week, three games now, and it's not 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: just the losing, but how this team looks during this 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: three game losing streak. And it starts with what we've 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: been talking about for a while now, the offense. Something 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: isn't right. What is it and what can be done 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to fix it? It's Cardinals Cover two, episode three sixty five, 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolou and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: by Hun Day, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, Visit Asy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight of fence. 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Bob he he's into the aside for the touchdown. Here's 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Darren urban Aj Cardinal dot Com. 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: His opening paragraph to his aftermath column late last night. 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: The pieces are the same play caller, the quarterback, the receivers, 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: the running backs, the offensive line. How is the offense 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: so much different right now? Over these last three game stretch? 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: All losses than it had been for most of the season. 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I think MJ that basically in a nutshell is what 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: we're all thinking right now. As we talked about yesterday 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: on Cardinal Tuck, there was a five game stretch thirty 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: plus points, four hundred plus yards of offense, and they 24 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: didn't win all of those games. But that is when 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: this offense we said, hey, you know what, they've arrived. 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: They've turned the corner. Now after the bye week, maybe 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: they've slammed into a wall because now you're looking at 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: three straight games of an offense that is underperforming and 29 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: really underperforming based off the metrics when you look at 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the first seven games of the season. Well, I did 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: a deep down this morning just I went for the 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: first nine games and in the last three games, and 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: again I can you could build stats anyway, but I 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: just felt like, you know, he's practicing, so he can't 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: blame so much on the shoulder. We know Kingsbury's admitted 36 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: that are certain calls that he will or won't make 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: based on the protect them, but I don't know if 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: that's happening now. Okay, So in the first nine games, 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: they were averaging passing wise, Kyla Murray two hundred and 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: sixty three yards, seventeen touchdowns, eight interceptions, rushing sixty seven 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: yards Kyler Murray ten touchdowns, four fumbles, two lost, average touchdowns. 42 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: In the nine game span, they were averaging at least 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: three touchdowns game, averaging twenty nine point three points. Last 44 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: three games, passing two hundred and four yards, five touchdowns, 45 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: two interceptions, rushing, he's averaging four yards too, humbles, one loss. 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: They're averaging one point six touchdowns per game, and they're 47 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: averaging twenty two points per game. Now, so the numbers reflected. 48 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: You look at when this all happened at Seattle twenty 49 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: one points, at New England seventeen points. Yesterday against the 50 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Rams twenty eight points. But that last touchdown that Dan 51 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Arnold scored with two h four left to play, I 52 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: think you know that's where the Rams. If you're a defense, 53 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: you certainly don't want to give that score up. But 54 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: of course it's one of those that you know, we 55 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: can live with it because at that point, the game 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: for all intensive purposes had been decided. So, yes, there 57 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: is an issue. There is a problem with this offense. 58 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Is it broken? I don't know if it's broken but 59 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: it certainly needs a jump starts, and I don't know 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: what the answer is. We all have the same questions. 61 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: The fans want to know, we want to know and 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: right now based off what the head coach just said 63 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: post game and earlier today, Either they know what they 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: think they can do and just don't want to share it, 65 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: or they're just like every one of us. They don't 66 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: know and are still trying to work through it. And 67 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, I understand that, but I certainly 68 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: would like a little bit more. I don't know if 69 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: accountability is their word, but hey, you know what, we're 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: not doing X, Y and Z. This is why we're 71 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: not doing X, Y and Z. So we got to 72 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: correct X, Y and Z. Not getting that a lot 73 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: from coaches and players, and I think that, more than anything, 74 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: is upsetting to a lot of the fan base because 75 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: we see what we see. It's not working. Why is 76 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: it not working? Okay, we'll fix it and fix it now, 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: fix it yesterday. Craig twelve other sixteen plays twelve and sixteen, 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: So you throw the Arnold playing. There were twelve to 79 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: sixteen or zero or minus yartage in the first half 80 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: twelve of their first sixteen plays in the game, zero 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: or minus yards and four straight three and outs. Now, 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: if you want to give the Rams credit, I know 83 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Kingsbury has done it a lot. To a certain extent, 84 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: He's right, the Rams were one of the better defenses 85 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: in the league when it came to four seeing three 86 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: and outs. But I'm sorry, in this day and age 87 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: of scoring left and right and teams coming back from 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: double digit deficits, there should be no reason any offense, 89 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: any offense, should have four straight possessions of three and out. 90 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing, especially when you're an offense that was leading 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: the league in yards per game, top ten in offense. 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're still very high in the metrics when 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: you look at the entire twelve game season, but just 94 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: the last three weeks, you know, they're ranked with the 95 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Eagles and the Bengals. That's not where this team wants 96 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: to be, and right now it's putting them outside of 97 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: the playoff picture. Yeah, you know where the offense ranks 98 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: right now, thirtieth And you're the last game, yes, last 99 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: three games, and the only thing you really did is 100 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: you added DeAndre Hopkins. Now we know the NFL it's 101 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: a crapshoot and we all there's a reason why, you know, 102 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: even the experts or the sharks, whatever you want to 103 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: call them, they're getting it right maybe sixty three percent 104 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: of the time. Now. I think the biggest upset we 105 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: had in the NFL happened yesterday in Seattle. And we'll 106 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: get into that, you know, more tomorrow and then we'll 107 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: advanced the Giants. But you know, doing the postgame show 108 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: with you for the last couple of years, you win 109 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: a game, you're going to the super Bowl. If you 110 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: lose the game, they want to fire the coach. I'm 111 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: here to tell you Cliff Kingsbury is going nowhere. Okay, 112 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: you want to start all over again? Do you want 113 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: to put the reset button all over again? Because the 114 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: reason why they hired Kingsbury and they drafted Murray because 115 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: they feel like this can work, and I believe it 116 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: can work. Okay, they need some tweaks. You know, this 117 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: isn't a lost cause. And they still got four games 118 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: to go here and listening to Patrick Peterson and some 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: of the others, we'll see what they're made on. They 120 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: know it's at stake here, So I mean the fireing 121 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: this guy and you know, we'll get into zign because 122 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: obviously that's an issue, and you know, at some point, 123 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, I say he's on the roster for now, 124 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: but at some point, as Cliff pointed out on ninety 125 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: eight seven, when he meets with Steve about personnel, that 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: discussion will come up. And we know they got Mike Nugent. 127 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: So you know, but to me, you got to make 128 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: some tweaks here. You just you can't. It's what do 129 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: they say about it? Insanity? You do it over and 130 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: over and you get the same results. Okay, make some tweaks. 131 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: And you know one of the tweaks was yesterday they 132 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Hopkins was in the slot and I asked Kingsbury. They 133 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: don't give me a short answer, or always trying to 134 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: get them involved. Move him around, and I want to 135 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: see some slant passes. I want to see some crossing routes. 136 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Now again, they ran that two minute offense going with 137 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: four wide and they got some successful As he pointed 138 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: out with us earlier, you can't do that every down 139 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: because you still got to protect the quarterback. And they 140 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: liked their eleven personnel, whether it's Dan or Max out there. 141 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: We did see two running backs in the backfield, but 142 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: move Hopkins around. This is the reason why you went 143 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: out and got him and made the highest paid wide 144 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: receiver in football. He was targeted thirteen times, but eleven 145 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: of those targets happened in the second half. Now, he 146 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: does need to be credited in the first half for 147 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: attracting three defenders allowing Dan Arnold to get so wide open. 148 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Plus he drew that twenty five yard defensive pass interference 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: penalty on Jalen Ramsey to help set up the missed, 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: ultimately missed Zane Gonzalez field goal. So he is occupying defenses. 151 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, we need to see the 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: ball in number ten's hands and whether that's the quick 153 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: screen pass that worked initially this season and then defense 154 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: took it away and the Cardinals got away from it. 155 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they need to go back to it and kind 156 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: of play this back and forth and you know who 157 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: gives first. Right now, the Cardinals offensively are giving way 158 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: too much to the defense and not dictating what they 159 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: want to do. They're reacting, no, you need to force 160 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: defense his hands, and right now this Cardinals offense is 161 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: not doing that right And what happened to Christian Kirk. 162 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: You know, I thought when he came back kind of 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: settled things down and he was getting you know, a 164 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: few touchdowns or maybe a three or four game span. 165 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, what was he tarrier? One time? Three times? Yes? Times? 166 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: How many catches? One? Yeah? And Andy Isabella. I mean, 167 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait for Fitzgerald to come back. Hopefully we'll 168 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: know more on Wednesday. But Larry is savvy enough, and 169 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: really it's about his leadership not only on the field, 170 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Okay, we're not in there this year. 171 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: We know what he means in that locker room and 172 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: sometimes he could be you know, let guys talk. But 173 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: also you know when he needs to say something again, 174 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: he's not going to search you out. It's more about 175 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: you asking him what can I do better? But I 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: think the offense will settle down. I got to think 177 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Larry would have caught a couple of those passes on 178 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: third down at least got him you know, better field opportunities. 179 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: So again, I know Larry doesn't you know, get the 180 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: same targets. You know, he's not a guy that's going 181 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: to break you know, fifty yarder, but he's savvy enough 182 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: to get open because he's crafty enough. He knows how 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: to approach it weekend and week out. So I think 184 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: it will go a long way from a leadership standpoint, 185 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: but also I think he can help him on the field. 186 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: You brought up a couple of different options, different ideas 187 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: moving Hopkins around, get Christian Kirk involved before we get 188 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: more in depth on those ideas. And then another there's 189 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: another one that everyone would like to see, and that's 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,359 Speaker 1: Kyla Murray under center. Here is the Cardinals quarterback yesterday 191 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: after the Cardinals lost to the Rams thirty eight, twenty eight. 192 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: With regard to what is going on with this offense 193 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: over this three game losing street quote, we've kind of 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: hit a wall as far as offensively that first half 195 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: of the season. It was kind of effortless. We were 196 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: moving the ball, having fun, playing fast. When you face 197 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of adversity, how do you react? How 198 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: do you adjust? Which we ended up doing, but it 199 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: was just a little too late end quote, And that 200 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: last part was him referring to moving to ten personnel, 201 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: playing a little two minute the entire second app or 202 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: as much as you can as long as you're getting 203 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: in positive yards and not playing behind the sticks. So 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: he used the word that we use last week. How 205 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: do you adjust the adjustments that need to be made 206 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: on this offense? And I know the big one. Ron 207 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Wolfley during the broadcast and even before yesterday's broadcast kept 208 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: bringing it up. Rob Frederickson on Cardinal Talk last night 209 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: brought it up. You've discussed it as well. Kyler Murray 210 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: under center? Can you make him more of a quote 211 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: unquote traditional quarterback. I'm not talking about for the entire game, 212 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: not for every sixty sixty five snaps, but every now 213 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: and then to give the defense a different look. And 214 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: I think that's what this offense needs to do a 215 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: handful of plays that haven't been done, or they go 216 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: back to a year ago or even earlier this season 217 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: that we're working and now maybe see if they work again, because, 218 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: as you said, the definition of insanity is doing the 219 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: same thing over and over again hoping for a different result. Well, 220 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: three games now, MJ, that's almost a quarter of the 221 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: season in the NFL. That's a huge amount. Three doesn't 222 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: sound like a lot, but that's more than a trend. 223 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: This is now a problem. Yeah, And let me make 224 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: this very clear. When you run the air raid offense. 225 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: A lot of it is RPOs and zone reads, so 226 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: you have to be in the shotgun. And the Baltimore 227 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Ravens are dealing with is very similar to the Cardinals. 228 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: So this year, the Cardinals has been in the shotgun 229 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: ninety three percent of the time, which means seven percent 230 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: under center. The Ravens are at ninety seven percent, only 231 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: three percent under center. Now, if you go back to 232 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: a year ago, Kyler was in the shotgun eighty seven percent, 233 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: thirteen under center, and then the Ravens were ninety six 234 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: percent and four percent. And I looked at the Seahawks 235 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: this year. There in the shotgun seventy percent of the time, 236 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: but Russell Wilson is under center thirty percent, thirty percent, 237 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: And it's hard to fathom that when you watch them 238 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: because he's always outside the pocket. So what they want 239 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: to do with the RPO and zone read you have 240 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: to be in the shotgun. Now, you know what they 241 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: call utility players, Craig guy that comes in you can 242 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: do one thing. Again, I was advocating for Chris Traveler 243 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: to go out there in the fourth and one, but 244 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I didn't like the moment in the game, and to me, 245 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Cliff doesn't worry about the criticism because people say, you 246 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: take Kyler Murray off the field and you bring in 247 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: this guy from Canada. I get it, but that's what 248 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: he's on the roster for. To get that short yards 249 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: fourth and one. He's got the body to take a 250 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: quick snap and you got to make a decision left 251 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: or right, and you knows dive where the center and guard. 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: So he's a utility guy. But I want to make 253 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: it very clear. The offensor running is predicated of being 254 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: in the shotgun. But if you want to get on 255 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: the fourth and one at whatever yard line, let's say 256 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: they're in the opponent's territory, you have to pick up 257 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: those and not so much pass or when you're in 258 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: a shotgun, you're still four yards behind the line of scrimmage, 259 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: where if you're underneath center, you're right there. You don't 260 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: you don't have to north and south, not east and west. 261 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: We see teams do it all the time. So and 262 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: it's not second guessing. It's just more if this team 263 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: wants to, you know, they got to utilize the players 264 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: they have on the roster, and I think Straveler is 265 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: a utility guy. Now, I don't want to take Colin 266 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Murra off the field, but if you want to first down, 267 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: continue to drive. Hey, the fans can say what they want, 268 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying in general, you have utility players. 269 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Trent SuField is a utility player. That's what you have 270 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: on you. I mean, you got your starters, you got 271 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: your probably twenty seven twenty eight between offense and defense. 272 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: They're rotation guys and they start, but there was utility 273 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: guys on the roster, and I think Traveler should be 274 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: an option. Again, I'm not a big fan of taking 275 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Murray out, but you've got to play to your strengths 276 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: and I think he would be effective in that. It's 277 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: got to show me, but I think he could be effective. 278 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: And you're talking more as short yardage, the second and 279 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: short third and short four and short that's it. I 280 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: just think you can also look at Kyler Murray under 281 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: center when it's first and ten or second and seven, 282 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: and these rollouts that we see successful and I know 283 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: kylod to Guard asked Kingsbury earlier today about it, because 284 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: we saw how Jared Goff was so effective rolling out, 285 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: whether it was a bootleg rollout or just a stretch 286 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: play to the running back or a fake stretch and 287 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: then dropping back a couple of yards to throw the pass. 288 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: And it was very effective because it gives the quarterback 289 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more time, the field opens up, your 290 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: line of sight is a little bit better, and you 291 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: have more options to utilize. Now, it's not for everyone. 292 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I get that, And let me make clear bird game. 293 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Kyler Murray needs to be under center 294 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: the entire game, but every now and then change it up. 295 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Kingsbury's response to the designed rollouts though, quote you always 296 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: just want to play to your strengths, what you do well, 297 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: your personnel end quote. And he was asked in terms 298 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: of how successful the forty nine ers and rams have been. 299 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: It didn't sound like Kingsbury was going to do any 300 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: of that with Kyler Murray at least anytime soon. Now, 301 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: maybe this is something to look at in the offseason 302 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: and in the next year. But you have to do 303 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: something to change what this offense is showing you because 304 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: it's the same thing possession in possession out for three 305 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: straight weeks and it's just not working. It's not consistent. Yeah, 306 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: but again, if you want to run those waggle plays 307 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: and those stretch, as you pointed out correctly, and then 308 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: the bootlegs you have to be under center. That's how 309 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: it works. I just wonder if it's too late in 310 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: the season for something. Is that too much of a 311 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: dramatic shift for this offense and this coaching staff and 312 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: their philosophy with what to do with Kyler Murray and 313 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the team, that that is such a 314 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: one eighty that hey, you know what, let's just go 315 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: instead of one hundred and eighty degrees let's go fifteen 316 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty degrees as an alteration as opposed to this huge makeover. 317 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: It's a valid point. But I think there should be tweaks. 318 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm not you can't do this during the season, as 319 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: if we pointed out, this is who they are. So 320 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: there's tweaks you can and it's based on matchups. It's 321 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: based on who you're facing. You know, they play at 322 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: four to three, at three four, what do their corners 323 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: look like? But again, no, I would say tweaks. If 324 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: you want to try to implementth that in the offseason, fine, 325 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: I get that, because they're gonna have to figure it 326 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: out from a standpoint of you know, when you're number 327 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: one in yards per play, and then you were number 328 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: one in rushing and there's still you know, they definitely dipped, 329 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: but there's still you know, I feel like they can 330 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: land up the football which has the past, but I 331 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: think more tweaks than overhaul. B'ur gang. If you haven't, 332 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: make sure you update to the Lettuce version of the 333 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals mobile app today. 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You 339 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: talked about tweaks, so let's touch on a couple of 340 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: those that you've already mentioned briefly, and it's the other players, 341 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: the other skilled players not named Kyler Murray, DeAndre Hopkins, 342 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: whether you move him around a little bit, Christian Kirk, 343 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: what happened to him? Why has he disappeared over the 344 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: past two games, and obviously yesterday as well, went back 345 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: and look, he played sixty of the sixty four offensive snaps, 346 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: had one catch. MJ. Without Larry Fitzgerald on the football field. 347 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is your number two wide receiver, and if 348 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: the Rams were going to take DeAndre Hopkins out of 349 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: the loop, then naturally he should look at number thirteen. 350 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: Yet he wasn't there. Now when we watched the game, 351 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: is okay the quarterback didn't find him? Or was Kirk 352 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: not open? Is he not running the right routes? Kingsbury, 353 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: again earlier today, asked about the space and with respect 354 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: to the wide receivers, that certainly was an issue when 355 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: they went to ten personnel because that was a little 356 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: bit of a departure from what they've been used to offensively. 357 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: I think we're pretty set here that it's not play calling, 358 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: it's not play design, but the execution of what is 359 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: being called. Players aren't in their right spots. And that 360 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: goes for all eleven because it only takes one player 361 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: to kind of derail an entire play call and then 362 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: ultimately an entire set of downs. Yeah, I mean, I 363 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: just I look at it from move Hopkins around. I 364 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: want to see some slant routes. I want to see 365 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 1: some crossing routes. I do think when you look at 366 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: their two corners I mean, they've done a good job 367 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: and they've got some young safeties there. Referring to the Rams, 368 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: they were able to take Andy Isabella out of the game, 369 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: and I think just having Fits on the field allows 370 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: Kirk to really play on the outside and that's where 371 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: we see the deep ball, and you know, Larry can 372 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: work the intermediate routes, the first down marker, and then 373 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: you got Hopkins obviously if you want to go you know, 374 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: slant pass. But I just think I thought when Christian 375 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Kirk came back, it really settled the offense. But I'm 376 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna make the same claim when Larry gets back on 377 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: the field, it's going to change a little bit. Teams 378 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: are gonna have to defend Larry Fitzgerald. True, but these 379 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: offensive issues had already existed prior to Fits landing on 380 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: the reserve COVID nineteen less, which you're saying, and it 381 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: certainly might help, But this goes back a week, two 382 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: weeks before fitz was even out of the equation, So 383 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: it's not like he's going to be the elixir here 384 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: and fix everything. He'll help, but it's not going to 385 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: solve everything. No, And again I'm not calling him a savior. 386 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, just based on his experience, 387 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: and their teams will have to defend him a little 388 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: bit different than I mean, that's all I'm saying. And 389 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: we know that he doesn't get a ton of separation, 390 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: but he's crafty enough and savvy enough to make those 391 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: catches and now allow Christian Kirk to maybe just you know, 392 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: pressing to where I have to make a play every 393 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: time they throw it to me, and then you know, 394 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: if they want to go four wide, then he bring 395 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: out Isabella, but Isabella snaps. So yeah, I mean it's 396 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: they need more out of Christian Kirk because that he technically, 397 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, whether whatever they do in the offseason, Chris 398 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: Christian Kurk's going to go in there as a number 399 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: two receiver next year. If Larry decides to hang it up, 400 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: we'll find out, I guess, you know, sooner rather than later. 401 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: But if Larry hangs it up, Christians your number two. 402 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think Andy Isabelle is a number three 403 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: receiver right now. You look back at the Dolphins game 404 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: and Christian Kirk had over a hundred yards receiving and 405 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: one touchdown. Since then, over the past four games, twelve 406 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: catches ninety eight yards, no touchdowns. In the past two games, 407 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: four catches, twenty one yards, no touchdowns. That is not 408 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals signed up for when they drafted Christian 409 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: Kirk as a slot receiver potentially to be an outside 410 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: receiver down the line. And then if you don't have 411 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: someone else outside of DeAndre Hopkins, then if you're an 412 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: opposing defense, they can just focus on number ten and 413 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: then make it really difficult for Hopkins to get off. 414 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: And I think that was what was happening yesterday and 415 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: certainly frustrating for him. He did get a thousand yards, 416 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: So congratulations DeAndre Hopkins. He's over one thousand yards receiving. 417 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: But my guess is based off how well he started 418 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: this season. I didn't think it was gonna be week thirteen. Heck, 419 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: it could have been week six, week seven when he 420 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: hit a one thousand yards receiving. And here we are 421 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: in December and he finally reaches that milestone. Well, and 422 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, just you look at projections, and 423 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it last night. I mean, 424 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: he's got sixty one more targets than any other receiver 425 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: on the roster and there are games that I think 426 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: there's four or five six games that he's been targeted 427 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: over ten times, and I would continue to go to him. So, 428 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just again, I just think they're going 429 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: to do a better job moving him around it because 430 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: I believe that he can win those matchups, and you know, 431 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Cliffs seems open to it. But he would have to 432 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: average one hundred yards per game to get to that 433 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred because he was projected about fourteen and fifteen 434 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: hundred yards, so he was averaging about one hundred point 435 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: two per game. Now it's taken a dip. He normally 436 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: leads the entire NFL and targets he's not. He probably 437 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: third or fourth overall in targets now. So I would 438 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: continue to try to move them around. But he definitely 439 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: is a big part of the offense, and I just 440 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: think that it will open things up for other guys 441 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: if they move them around, just because I don't know 442 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: what the illusion is just having him line up on 443 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: the on the X, which is on the outside and 444 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: usually it's on the left side, and to me, you know, 445 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, Kyler can make that throw from the hash 446 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: mark on the out route, But move him around forced 447 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: teams to change their coverage. And if a team says 448 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: where he goes, I'm going, I'm traveling with him, great, 449 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: then I'll tack another side of the field. Then you 450 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: know I'm not forcing it. But you know, like like 451 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: Larry told Kyler last year in the bubble on the 452 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: flight plan, I may not look like I'm open, but 453 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: just throw it to me and you're gonna take some chances. 454 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: And I always think, you know, we talk about the 455 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: vertical game, and maybe you know I'll spoil. We were 456 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: spoiled with airing because you know so they always say 457 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: takes outn and ten shots down on the field. I 458 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you can do that. Let's say four 459 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: to six, you may get a pass interference call because 460 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: if they're not going to make they can't get to 461 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: the ball, they're gonna grab him. And sometimes you get 462 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, great, I'm not a big fan of you 463 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: get at the one yard line, but that's the NFL 464 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: rule in college a fifteen yarder because if you know 465 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a good beat, you're you're gonna tackle 466 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: the guy and they're gotta get the running game going again. 467 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Without Kyler Murray Yeah, let's bring that up here. As 468 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: we continue on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyunday, proud 469 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we look at what 470 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray does when he is running the ball effectively. 471 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: If he carries the ball eight or more times, this 472 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: team is six and one. When he carries the ball 473 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: less than eight times, this team is oh and five. 474 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: He says repeatedly, he doesn't have to run to be effective, 475 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: all right, take him out of the equation. Then Kenyan 476 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Drake and Chase Edmonds need to carry the load. In fact, 477 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Drake brought that up late last week when he was 478 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: asked about it. If they're going to take away Kyle 479 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: the Murray, then the onus balls on us as running 480 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: backs to carry the football. Now do they have the 481 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: rushing lanes? Is the offensive line, in other words, doing 482 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: its job against four five man defensive lineman looks or 483 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: or Drake and Edmonds not reading what they have available? 484 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Because there were a lot of times watching that game 485 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: back earlier today that you run up the middle or 486 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: even try to get the outside. There were a hecko 487 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of white shirts around the football. Now is that 488 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the offensive nine not getting off its blocks and pushing 489 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: the defense back on its heels. I don't know, or 490 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: the running backs just slow to read where they need 491 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: to be. I don't have the answer, but that run 492 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: game overall, with or without Kyle the Murray has not 493 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: been good over this three game stretch. No and again, 494 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: during the nine games games at a season, he was 495 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: averaging sixty seven yards a game on the ground, he 496 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: had ten rushing touchdowns. Over the lesser games, fifteen carries 497 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: or sixty one yards that's about four yards pop and 498 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: no touchdowns rushing. He has five passing in, two interceptions, 499 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: two fumbles, one loss, and again they're only averaging one 500 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: point six were they're averaging three touchdowns per game during 501 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: the nine games, and as we pointed out, the points 502 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: school from twenty ninety three to twenty two overall, it's 503 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: just amazing when you look at numbers because you're looking 504 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: for reasons why things are happening, and then you come 505 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: up with the trend and then you present this and 506 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: then you're told, well, you know, we don't believe that 507 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: or this is not the case, and we don't think 508 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. But something because teams, other teams are 509 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: looking at these numbers and like, look, Kyle the Murray 510 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: when he's running the football, they're very good, all right, 511 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: just not allow him to run the football. And they're 512 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: not because, as you said, when that rush is coming 513 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: up field, they're rushing further up on the left or 514 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: the right along the edges to make sure Murray doesn't 515 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: break contain. So then the onus falls back on the 516 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: quarterback to figure things out. And that brings up another question. 517 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: Is Kyle Murray not reading defenses at the moment he is? 518 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: He seeing things that he hasn't seen and he's slow 519 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: to react because even if you're a split second slow, 520 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden that window to get the battle 521 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: of the receiver is closed, or all of a sudden 522 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: that pocket collapses and you get sacked. Murray faced a 523 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of pressure yesterday. Rams defense very good, thirty four 524 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: sacks coming into that ball game. Yeah, some of that 525 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: falls on the offensive line. Does he need more time? 526 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: I think all quarterbacks would love to have. Sometimes you're 527 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: just not gonna have a lot of time. You need 528 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: to be quicker with your decision making well, and people 529 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: wanted to know what they did offensively in the second 530 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: half well he was going to the ball quicker that 531 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: was he was holding onto it. I mean, there was 532 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: a couple of plays. He should have made the throw earlier. 533 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: I want to Sandy Isabella play, you got to throw 534 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: that earlier. It was tight coverage, but throw it earlier. 535 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: And these guys got to do a better job coming 536 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: back to the ball. Yeah. I mean, like I said, though, 537 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: they got to get back to run the football and 538 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: went in the line of scrimmage. And you know, I 539 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: also want to make this clear, Cliff and Kylage are 540 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: still learning. Okay, everyone was ready to write off Baker Mayfield. 541 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: They bring in Covin Stefanski, who obviously has worked with 542 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the past. They have talent, they've had talent 543 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: on that roster, but people were ready to give up 544 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. And I mentioned to you when Stefancy got 545 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: that job and he was able to meet with him, 546 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: it was to come to Jesus conversation, it's now or never. 547 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: This is on you now. So this offense and people 548 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it, but they they'll they'll tweak it, 549 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: they'll add some talent to it. And but you can't 550 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: do it now. You gotta You can't just overhaul your offense, 551 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: which they're not going to do. So Cliffs not going anywhere. 552 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: College is not going anywhere. People have to be patient. 553 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: They're still in the second year of this system, and 554 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: it takes time. I mean, they didn't have the luxury 555 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: of sitting Patrick mahomes for a year. They didn't have 556 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: the luxury of, you know, Lamar Jackson taking over Joe 557 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: Flacco midway through the season. When he arrived at Sky Harbor, 558 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: they handed the keys to him with a Porsche or Maserati. 559 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: So people are and what were people's expectations? Greg, I 560 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: think first of all, we've both said that we thought 561 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: the Rams were going to win. We weren't hoping the 562 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Rams were going to win, but we knew we'd be 563 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: a difficult matchup. It's just how it looked. Yeah, and 564 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: that's it's going back to the eye test. How do 565 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: you perform even if you do lose, do you look 566 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: good doing it? And you can put some window dressing 567 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: on it and you can look forward and say, you 568 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: know what we see progress. Progress is not being made. 569 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: No over these last three games. No, the offense is 570 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: in a funk and they'll be the first to tell 571 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: you they can use different words around and sink, there's 572 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: no rhythm, what's the identity? But you have to let 573 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: these guys grow. Though we live in a microwave side, 574 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: we want instant results. I think I going in this season, 575 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: who knows if I thought they would win the first game, 576 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: but I thought it'd be a tone setter. And then 577 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: you look at the Washington football team and then you're thinking, oh, 578 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: you know they got Detroit and Carolina, but I thought 579 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: they were seven to nine win team. The problem is 580 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: when you get out the five and two and six 581 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: and three, people start talking about seating and playoffs and MVP. 582 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: We're not talking about the MVP anymore. We know that 583 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: wasn't realistic. At least I think you were in agreement 584 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: with me when we when we heard the study that 585 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: you have to win thirteen games and right now, and 586 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers are tote to toe. 587 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's out and Derrick Henry's out. But you got 588 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: to let these guys grow. People just want they want 589 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: to start over. And again the passion and the energy 590 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: that people call in a postgame show because to me, 591 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: they're true fans, but it's you got you gotta be 592 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: patient here, I mean start over again, and that's just ridiculous. 593 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you're always going to have coaches that you 594 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: know assistant coaches now you know you look at Tom 595 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Clemens is on a two year deal. Cam Turner to me, 596 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: is really qualified to possibly get that. I don't know 597 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, and that's not a conversation for 598 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: the offseason, but I'm just saying, you gotta be patient here. 599 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is not going to happen overnight. There's 600 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: a reason why they moved on from Josh Rosen, and 601 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: I stand by that position one thousand percent. You imagine 602 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: if Josh Rosen was leaving this team. I don't even 603 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: want to think about it. So there's no second guessing 604 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: on that they made the right decision. You hire kings Mary, 605 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: you get Murray, and now people have to be patient though. 606 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean they are not even into their third year, 607 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: and because you got off to a five and three 608 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: and six and two start, all of a sudden, expectations change. 609 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: What were your realistic expectations during the year, And I 610 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: think you nailed it right there. The expectations heading into 611 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: the season versus what the expectations were when you were 612 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: playing the Seahawks with first place on the line of 613 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: the NFC West, Because then that changes the entire narrative 614 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: of the season to where now you're on the outside 615 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: looking into where if this team does not make the postseason, 616 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: you can say it's not only a disappointment, but you failed. 617 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: And if they go eight, I mean on paper, but 618 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: it's disappointing because you were six and three. That's a disappointment. Listen, 619 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: as I pointed out last night, not only are people 620 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: in the organization from top to bottom, they're not only disappointed, 621 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: they're frustrated. They are frustrated what's going on. And again, 622 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: you can't crawl in the corner. You gotta come out. 623 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: You got a game next week. And so you know, 624 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Patrick said, he you know, I believe some of the 625 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: leaders in that locker room. And Larry gets back there. 626 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: Again not a railroad guy, but he has an observant eye. 627 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: He knows what's going on. We will see and hopefully 628 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: that is definitely the case coming up, because now all 629 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's a four game sprint to the 630 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: finish line. And right now the Cardinals are on the 631 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: outside looking in bird Gang. If you enjoy Cardinals Covered two, 632 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: we invite you to subscribe to all of the Arizona 633 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. 634 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: By doing that, not only do you get Cardinals Cover two, 635 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: but Cardinals Underground, The Big Road, Rage, and The Cardinals 636 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: Read Sea Report, Goodasy, Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts for 637 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: more information. A couple of items here that we've briefly 638 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: touched on, but I do want to close up the 639 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: show with more on two items than one. Is Larry 640 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald and the prospects of getting him back this week Kingsbury. Quote. 641 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: We're hoping to have him back soon end quote. And 642 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: that is basically all we know at the moments. We're hopeful, 643 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: and you would certainly think that after two game absence, 644 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: as long as fitz is doing all right, and that's 645 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: the only thing that we right now, that he'll be 646 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: back at some point this week, and then, as we discussed, 647 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: hopefully that can settle things down with respect to the offense. 648 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: The other issue Zane Gonzalez, Now, this is something that 649 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: is maybe something that is still up in the air, 650 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: so depending on when the Bird Gang listens to this 651 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals cover to a Monday edition. Here on 652 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: this afternoon, that things may or may not change, because 653 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: we got two different answers to the question of Zane 654 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: Gonzalez and his future with the Arizona Cardinals. Kingsbury was 655 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: flat out asked by the media earlier today about Zane Gonzalez, 656 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: is he your kicker? The quote was, Zane is our kicker. 657 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: Moments later, he did his Coaches show on ninety eight 658 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: seven FM Arizona Sports Station with Bickley and Marada. He 659 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: was asked about Zane Gonzalez and then gave this response, quote, 660 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: when Steve and I get together discuss personnel and that 661 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: will be a topic. I'm sure we have to make 662 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: those kicks, and we understand that these teams are too 663 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: good to not get those points there end quote. I 664 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: don't know how to read into that versus what we 665 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: were told earlier in his weekly Zoom session with the media, 666 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: But obviously this is something that is going to be 667 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: discussed today, tomorrow, maybe for the next couple of days. 668 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: But you can't keep having these missed opportunities when three 669 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: points doesn't sound like a lot but instead of going 670 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: into the locker room at halftime down fourteen seven, maybe 671 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: you're down fourteen ten, and maybe the game is different. 672 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you feel a little bit better about yourselves going 673 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: into the locker room and coming out even though the 674 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: offense played so horribly in the first thirty minutes of 675 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: that game. On Sunday, those two quotes you read and 676 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: this is just me connecting dots. Everything's on the table 677 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: and it should be No, yeah, it should be. Now. 678 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: I mentioned this last night and doesn't mean anything. I 679 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: don't even know if his Zae Gonzalez went in the 680 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: locker room. Maybe when in there's just maybe just to 681 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: go to wait. There was only seven hundred and twenty fans, 682 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: but he was out there Craig for almost the entire halftime. 683 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: And you know he has something a little device that 684 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: holds the ball and he was going from forty or 685 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: forty five to forty eight to fifty. Mak it. Now again, 686 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: it's the pressure. It's you know to me kickers, you 687 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: know when we watch practice, they kind of just stick 688 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: together with the punter and the long snapper. And now 689 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: you got Mike Nugent who's thirty eight years old and 690 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: the practice squad, so that could be an option. But 691 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'll say this, I'm sure is fans are so upset. 692 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: I think it's tenfold how Zaye Gonzalez feels going into 693 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: a locker room. I mean, you never say it's a 694 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: team game, and we know it should not come down 695 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: to that kind of stuff. But because it's the NFL, 696 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: games come down to that kind of stuff. So whatever 697 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: you're feeling, I've set, I get it. You have every 698 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: right to voice your thoughts, but just keep in mind 699 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: it's tenfold when it comes to Zingen's house. He is 700 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: now eight of thirteen on I guess you could call 701 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: it the money down or the money distance between forty 702 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: and forty nine yards. He only has missed six kicks 703 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: all season. The other one was a Week one kick 704 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: of over fifty yards. But in the NFL, successful kickers 705 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: are very good eighty eighty five on forty to forty 706 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: nine yards, and it is the difference between a win 707 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: and a loss, as we've seen just recently here with 708 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. But you're right, no one feels worse 709 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: than zing Gonzales. And as Rob Frederickson brought up on 710 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: Cardinal talk. The miss earlier against the Patriots was wide 711 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: to the right. His miss yesterday against the Rams was 712 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: wide to the left, meaning he's overcompensating, meaning he's thinking 713 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: about it, meaning he's worked on it and said this 714 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: is what I have to do. And maybe he overcorrected 715 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: himself in the second quarter of that game yesterday. So 716 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: now you're left wondering what is going to happen. And 717 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure Gonzalez is wondering as well well. In the 718 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo game that was short, yes and he looked at 719 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: Annie Lean said I don't know what just happened. So yeah, 720 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean again, if you're going to be in close games, 721 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: you know, we'll always pick out five to seven plays 722 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: every game. Credit. We can go back to our shows 723 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: on Monday. You pick five to seven plays out, you know, 724 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: whether it's momentum or you know, and he's been on 725 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: that list for the last few weeks. We go back 726 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: to how this season began and where they were just 727 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: not too long ago, as far as right there at 728 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: five and two and then six and three and fighting 729 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: for first place, and now you're an eighth seed. Yeah, 730 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: And I listen to Wolf and he said, you know, 731 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be talking about playoffs now. To me, I 732 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: understand what he's saying because I thought the same thing. 733 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: Would just win a game. I mean, just win a game. 734 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean that that will go a long way. But 735 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: there is there is a big carrot at the end 736 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: here and that carrot is to get into and really 737 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: they think if they can get in there in their 738 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: offense and then we know it changes, you may probably 739 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: have to go on the road and whether it could 740 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: be a factor, and you know, did you play this 741 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: team prior to they know about you. But there's a 742 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: carrot at the end though, and I think the players 743 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: realize that because we is Cliff pointed out, and you've 744 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: been on it shoot for since October meaningful football. It's 745 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: great in November there were one in three, but December 746 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: football and at this point if they limp in, the 747 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: whole idea is just to get in there. Every team's 748 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: goal started years to win the division because you're host 749 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: a playoff game. With the NFL fell expanding, now you 750 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: just want to get into dance and then hopefully you 751 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: can make some noise because nobody will pick the Cardinals. 752 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: Look how they finish the season, don't worry about that 753 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: win the next game. That's the most important game on 754 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: the schedule, and it might be the most difficult for 755 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals because of where they find themselves, right, But 756 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. There's work to be done. They'll be 757 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: on the practice field Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, and then 758 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: later on Friday head to New York for the second 759 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: time this season MetLife Stadium to take on the Giants. 760 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: One more quote, this one from left tackle DJ Humphreys, 761 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: and I think he sums it up very well. Quote. 762 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: We're not on the same page as a unit. We're 763 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: all off kilter as a unit. It's a perfect storm 764 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: of a lot of things. End quote. The Cardinals right 765 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: now in that storm, trying to figure out a way 766 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: to weather the storm and get back on dryer land. 767 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lid on this 768 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover too, presented by Hunday partner the 769 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer 770 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Jim Amandro or Mike Jarecki. I'm Pregel Lou. We'll talk 771 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.