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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast sponsored by Daniel Jeremiah Shah

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Speaker 1: right from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan ANSAs. I come to you from a room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, some of them anyway, Greg Roosevelt, Mark Sessler. Boys. Yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: This is Daniel Jeremiah's last big week before he returns

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Speaker 1: from whence he came some swamp in San Diego, or

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Speaker 1: it goes on a three month vacation, which maybe he

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Speaker 1: does have it figured out he does. Draft week. We

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Speaker 1: got a big one. Four shows coming up this week,

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Speaker 1: the Mark Sessler NFL Mock Draft, a Round one recap

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Speaker 1: from Las Vegas. Yes, a t N returns to the

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Speaker 1: draft site, a full draft recap Saturday night at the

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Speaker 1: end of today, a big announcement. But before any of that,

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Speaker 1: let's dive right in with some energy. Rosenthal, get my lunch,

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Speaker 1: you problematic person. What do you? Why are you calling

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Speaker 1: me out? You think I'm not bringing the energy right now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, maybe I don't. Else have gotten

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Speaker 1: a fresh haircut birthday boy. That is not a fresh cut,

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Speaker 1: but it's looking very good. It's looking dense in a

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Speaker 1: good way. I mean there's some waves in your hair.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's get right into it. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: keep us on the trail. Sorry, energy, I apologize for Greg.

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Speaker 1: I'll get a cone. You know something, UM hit me.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let's check out where we're at in

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Speaker 1: the standings. Go get my lunch standings. Unbelievable what Nick

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Speaker 1: Fortier has done through the years. Juice up my energy.

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Speaker 1: Just tell me how I'm in first place. I'll juice

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Speaker 1: you up. Greg Rosenthal's record is some would say somewhat

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Speaker 1: impressive to not very impressive. I'm at four, that's fifty one. Greg,

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Speaker 1: You're at one and one seventy seven fifty two point four. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's first place. Uh, Mark, You've always been feast or

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Speaker 1: famine in this game. One seventy and one eighty three,

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Speaker 1: forty eight point two percent. Again, you're Joey Gallow. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit two oh five, but you're gonna hit thirty

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Speaker 1: eight homers. You're gonna have a good slugging percentage. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna strike out two thirty times, but you're gonna always

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Speaker 1: get jobs and get paid because you do hit on

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Speaker 1: big ones. There's gonna be a highlight reel attached to

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Speaker 1: my career. Another way to look at it is we

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Speaker 1: are either exceedingly mediocre or exceedingly well matched against each other.

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Speaker 1: I mean, after playing, you know, after making almost three

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Speaker 1: hundred different or four hundred sandwich props, were like nine

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Speaker 1: over or twelve over. He's twelve under. We're all, you know,

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Speaker 1: right around that nice mediocrity. Yeah, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: fair way to look at it. So let's dive into

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Speaker 1: the draft. This is gonna be a tough one. This

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Speaker 1: the draft is always tough. This is where you could

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Speaker 1: be a real hero and go get my lunch and

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Speaker 1: I will get us going here. And something that Josh

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Speaker 1: Norris from the Underdog Network when he was on our

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Speaker 1: when it's your team, like with Josh, he grew up

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Speaker 1: have a better chance of getting it right. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start with the team that has two first round

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Speaker 1: Here's what I got. Hit it again, Hit me that

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Speaker 1: sting again. Bang me with the sting Ricky, I believe

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Speaker 1: here With the Jets at number four, I think there

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Speaker 1: With car Lawson coming back. Um, they have more draft

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Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, I think he's the safest pick in the

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Speaker 1: him to play zone half the time. That's a little different.

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Speaker 1: if it lands at six, it's a push. There's no sandwiches. See,

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Speaker 1: I'll just take you any sandwich. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: you on what I think will happen. But your mock, Yes,

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Speaker 1: This could be a window into what I'm thinking. But um,

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Speaker 1: some guesses that Mark might have, like a Saints whisper

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Speaker 1: it's natural if it's more like your mid sentence. You

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Speaker 1: I've gotten very upset. In fact, I complimented the sound

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Speaker 1: with this second sandwich prop? Alright, go ahead, alright, neither

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. See, that's that's what happens now, you're not

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Speaker 1: this is what dad going. Neither Deebo Samuel or A J.

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Speaker 1: Brown or traded during the beginning to start wire to

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Speaker 1: wire element of the draft. But DK metcalf is he

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Speaker 1: not spicy enough? It's like it got spicier. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: It wasn't spicy. I'll take you on that. That's good.

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Speaker 1: That's a good prop. It's your onions are hanging, Your

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Speaker 1: which is really crazy to me. Why are they so

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Speaker 1: open to what if Greg, what if, um, you were

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Speaker 1: Mark and I won't be at. I mean, who says you?

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Speaker 1: it's way too Hi, Hey where you made it sound

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Speaker 1: like it's some like private dinner. There's many many people

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Speaker 1: I think you know we doubled up at the your

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Speaker 1: birthday party the other day. We went there. It's a

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Speaker 1: pool session. Then I brought the kid back and then

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Speaker 1: comes back up that's not enough. We gotta get That

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Speaker 1: is a bit of an insight into maybe your plans

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Speaker 1: from the weekend, which are very nice and I had

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Speaker 1: a great time with everybody. But are you doing that

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Speaker 1: because you were guilty about Wednesday's dinner? And is that

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Speaker 1: why you double they're the one that brought that up.

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Speaker 1: It was more I was planning the second portion and

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Speaker 1: then our house was flaming down between the children, and

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Speaker 1: it was it was a great option. What a nice

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Speaker 1: mark you and I, uh, let's get a phone call.

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Speaker 1: You can put that in post your mena times. I'm Danny.

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Speaker 1: Who I'm Mina calling Greg inviting Greg to the dinner? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, hello, hey Greg, it's Mina. Oh

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Speaker 1: hey man, what's up. It's so good to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I've been I want to

442
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Speaker 1: call you all the time, but I want to bug you.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, um Draft week, we're all going to Vegas, Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and there is an elite group of I'm gathering an

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Speaker 1: elite group of of NFL analysts to gather for for

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Speaker 1: a supper together in the city of sin Would you

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Speaker 1: like to join me? Oh? Well, of course? Well what

448
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Speaker 1: this is how I wanted to play out one issue.

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Speaker 1: You know, the guys are there and Ricky and you

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Speaker 1: know we have plans. Maybe I don't know, so it's

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Speaker 1: you were one of the last people that I invited

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Speaker 1: and there was only a couple of slot there's in

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Speaker 1: enough room seats for Dan and the guy the guy

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Speaker 1: in Erica. Oh all right, well you know what, thanks,

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Speaker 1: but no thanks because I definitely want them to join us. Greg,

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Speaker 1: this is like a super important dinner. You don't want

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Speaker 1: him not be at this? All right, screw those guys.

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Speaker 1: I'll see Wednesday. Click. Just was looking for you to say, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe the guys this is I would call it a

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Speaker 1: Nate Tice dinner. If you're gonna throw someone they're making

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Speaker 1: plans a month ago. You think you're making plans a

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Speaker 1: month ago. Who knows that you're not thinking about it

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Speaker 1: all this through? All right? Are we hurt? Are we okay? Mark?

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Speaker 1: I don't feel anything right, dance hurt? A little hurt?

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Speaker 1: Mark does were a little hurt? Mark doesn't want more

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Speaker 1: time with me? Or No, it's not that I just

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Speaker 1: I'm the most hurt. I thought the four of us would.

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Speaker 1: Oh really from that angle, this week together. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that. That's the more hurtable angle we have.

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Speaker 1: We can spend time together tonight, Erika on the jessel

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Speaker 1: Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project. I'll see your beautiful face

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Speaker 1: on the screen, if you, if you, if he's getting

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Speaker 1: paid for it, he'll exactly right. Who's up? Am I up? Alright?

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Speaker 1: One more? All right, here we go. Let's talk about

475
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Speaker 1: the Bills defense. Let's talk about how their season ended.

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Speaker 1: When I think about what the Bills need, I think

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Speaker 1: about this. I can't believe they got the defense got

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Speaker 1: beaten up like that. To this hill, there's got a

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Speaker 1: chance when they call time out quickly and this in

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Speaker 1: the middle, it's gonna be a pretty a yard attempt.

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Speaker 1: Totally pretty yards, that's what it will be. And most

482
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Speaker 1: of all, this looking to the ends tracks big game

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Speaker 1: chiefs to the championship game. This is just a follomable.

484
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Speaker 1: If the Pills had wrong this game, it was over.

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Speaker 1: Get out of here with your running back to the

486
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Speaker 1: Bills hype. This team is too smart not to see

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Speaker 1: why they didn't win the Super Bowl last year. Was

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Speaker 1: it because the offense wasn't explosive enough. It be because

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Speaker 1: they're missing a couple of guys that could make those

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Speaker 1: plays that would get out of the divisional playoffs with

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Speaker 1: a win. That's what keeps Sean McDermott up at night.

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Speaker 1: That's what keeps Brandon being up at night. They have

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Speaker 1: built this organization so well that it would surprise me

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Speaker 1: if they came out of this and said, with our

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Speaker 1: top draft asset, we're going to go get a running

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Speaker 1: back to compliment Josh Allen and this sloaded offense. They're

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Speaker 1: going to continue to build out that defense. No running

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Speaker 1: back to the Bills. They'll take a defensive player. I'll

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Speaker 1: take you because I think it's when so many people

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Speaker 1: are mocking running back to the Bills, part of me

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Speaker 1: is like there is information behind that. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that's what they're decided. Not with everyone, but with some

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Speaker 1: of them, there's there seems to be like intelligence rooted there.

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Speaker 1: And so I put it, but for the sake of

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Speaker 1: the game, I'll take you. Yeah. I put it fifty

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Speaker 1: two because only because offensive lineman um could be taken

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Speaker 1: and you'd lose this prop right. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be you know, if they take an offensive lineman, which

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Speaker 1: I think is absolutely a big time need for them, uh,

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Speaker 1: and could be an option there at UH probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take linder Bom the center, but there there could be

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Speaker 1: a few different players available that they would like. I

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Speaker 1: could see it, but I think it's about fifty fifty.

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Speaker 1: I am with you that they need defense. I kind

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Speaker 1: of do think they're gonna take defense. I guess they

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Speaker 1: won't take you on it, okay, and I would give

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Speaker 1: it like fifty. Yeah, they're in the second round, eighty

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Speaker 1: nine in the third round. I'm not saying that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it would make sense maybe in the second round take

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Speaker 1: a running back or alignment, but I think they will.

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Speaker 1: They could even do some business. They could trade require

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Speaker 1: more picks that would make sense as well. They're just

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Speaker 1: there runs so well right now that I think what

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Speaker 1: whatever they end up doing, uh, it will be a

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Speaker 1: defensive player in the right. I'm trying to think, where

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Speaker 1: is the draft deep where they're gonna be some really

527
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Speaker 1: exciting players available. I feel like there's gonna be some

528
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Speaker 1: really good players in the secondary. Could even be a safety.

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Speaker 1: I know they have two great safeties, but they're both

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Speaker 1: in the final year of their contract, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna take you all right now, Greg, I'm gonna te

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Speaker 1: years up yours is so special. Time now for Greg's

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Speaker 1: final prop presented by up Work, where you could build

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Speaker 1: a team that will build your business. Learn more at

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Speaker 1: upwork dot com. It better be good because it got

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Speaker 1: the Upwork Seal of approval. This one is worthy of

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Speaker 1: upward Work. It's a two people should know that. Greg.

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Speaker 1: When he heard that sting, he pumped his arm. He

539
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Speaker 1: got more excited for what was to come. There's the

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Speaker 1: difference I in making the first here, the first ever

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Speaker 1: two parts sandwich. Maybe that's not a first Actually we've

542
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Speaker 1: probably done something like this. But the first part of

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Speaker 1: it is that Desmond ritter H who's spice Rack, who's

544
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the show shortly or rather on Wednesday,

545
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Speaker 1: is not a fan of. He's not a fan of,

546
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Speaker 1: but I am, and I think he's gonna go in

547
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Speaker 1: the first round. That's the first part. But the second

548
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: part of it is putting a player to the team exactly.

549
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say he's going to the Tennessee Titans,

550
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: because that's kind of annoy all of Titans Twitter. Justin

551
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: speak to me about how mad you'll be when they

552
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: take Desmond Ritter and I get a boatload of sandwiches,

553
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be mad her say I think the

554
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: play it alight. Um, I personally, just like watching football.

555
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of Desmond Ritter as a quarterback.

556
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Speaker 1: I hear he's a terrific person and a great kid,

557
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: so I don't want to speak ill of him, but

558
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't love the way he throws a football. So

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00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I think the Titans could take a quarterback. They've been

560
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Speaker 1: in every Pro day quarterback pro Day, They've had visits

561
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Speaker 1: with them. They brought Malik Willison for a Top thirty,

562
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: like they are doing their homework on the quarterbacks. It's

563
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: definitely in play, and there's a big segment of Titans

564
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Speaker 1: Twitter that likes Desmond and thinks he will be the

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Speaker 1: pick at. I don't love it. I would. I think

566
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Speaker 1: there's better ways to go and maximize this tiny window

567
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Speaker 1: you have with Tannehill and Henry before they're too old

568
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Speaker 1: to be effective. But it's possible. This is um, this

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Speaker 1: was my other route I was gonna go down. And

570
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Speaker 1: I think I think there's too much smoke around the

571
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Speaker 1: QB position in Nashville. I think they're not in a

572
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: panic mode obviously here because they like Dan Hill, you

573
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Speaker 1: know what they do. He's been really steady for them, solid,

574
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Speaker 1: very good and durable for several years now. But he's

575
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Speaker 1: also entering his age thirty fourth season. He's got two

576
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Speaker 1: years left under He's coming off a grizzly playoff performance

577
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Speaker 1: against the Bengals, obviously, and I guess that the Bengals

578
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: brain trust has had more than a few conversations this

579
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Speaker 1: offseason when they look at Tannehill and they look at

580
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry with about eighty thou and miles on the

581
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: odometer at this point, and they say, in this conference

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Speaker 1: right now, is that good enough? And so they're picking

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Speaker 1: overall this is the right in the zone where some

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks might be living, which is a good

585
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Speaker 1: spot for them. But also I wonder they gave up

586
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Speaker 1: their second round pick last year of Julio Jones. I

587
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: wonder if they are also annoyed about that, like, we

588
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Speaker 1: want that pick back and we are going to trade back,

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Speaker 1: get a second round pick. Um, maybe have two second

590
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Speaker 1: round picks, maybe a back in the first round pick.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I was gonna say they take a

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the first nine picks. They're picking in the

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Speaker 1: third round, so they do some draft draft moving and maneuvering,

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Speaker 1: and but one of their uh, they take a quarterback

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Speaker 1: fairly early in this draft. I'd almost be surprised if

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Speaker 1: they didn't take one in the top eight nine. You said,

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Speaker 1: I could see that um. In terms of ridder in

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Speaker 1: the first round, there are twenty six. The one Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah has linked not not like it. He's heard over

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Speaker 1: and over. The ridder could be linked to the Saints,

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Speaker 1: who are at sixteen and nineteen. So I wonder if

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Speaker 1: he even lasts that long. Because Ritter is someone that

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, it's like all these

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Speaker 1: teams love him like you said Grave or they love

605
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: the person. They think he's kind of fits the mold

606
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Speaker 1: on that front. He has, you know, the it's the

607
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: accuracy business, like when he misses, he misses real hard

608
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Speaker 1: on throws. But if you go deeper into some of

609
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Speaker 1: his metrics, and some people have done the work on this,

610
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: like he actually isn't that his accuracy issues aren't don't

611
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: stand out that much from the other quarterbacks in this draft.

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Speaker 1: So if someone falls in love with him, bang, I

613
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Speaker 1: just remind me Ryan Tannehill. I guess that would be

614
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Speaker 1: my question. Compared himself to Ryan Tannehill. At the combine,

615
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Speaker 1: they said, what quarterback do you think you're just like he? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's I would say big. You know, he's a tall dude.

617
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Speaker 1: He's not as thick as Tannehill, but similar athletic ability.

618
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Speaker 1: Throws a really nice ball up to seem just like Tannehill. Big,

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Speaker 1: you know, big, tall guy. I could kind of see it,

620
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: And maybe that's a reason not to take any of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks if you're the Titans. Are any of them

622
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Speaker 1: gonna be that huge of an upgrade in a good scenario?

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Speaker 1: Because I kind of like Ritterer, But I see him

624
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Speaker 1: as probably a Tannehill in a in the right scenario.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's a little more advanced mentally than Tannehill was

626
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Speaker 1: coming out of college, but Tannehill's Tannehill got there right, Like,

627
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: how long does it take before a quarterback you draft

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Speaker 1: this year is giving you more than what the reason

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Speaker 1: not to take it? But remember this a two parter,

630
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Speaker 1: So you have to pick the sandwich on whether he

631
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Speaker 1: goes first round, and you have to pick the sandwich

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Speaker 1: on whether he goes to the Titans. Can I take

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Speaker 1: on I'm taking you on the first round. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on the first round, so I

635
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Speaker 1: will not take you, but I will take you on

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Speaker 1: the landing spot. That would be what I give him

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Speaker 1: half a sandwich or something. There's two it's two parter.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I'll take he's not going

639
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Speaker 1: to the first round, but he's going to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Then I would be still be wrong because I'm saying

641
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Speaker 1: they would take him in the first all the way around.

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Speaker 1: He'll go in the first round, but not to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing too. And um, Greg, you made

644
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Speaker 1: the point like how did he get so old? He

645
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Speaker 1: was one of those guys. He came into the league

646
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Speaker 1: of four, so you would think he seems like he

647
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Speaker 1: should be thirty two, little like Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett's

648
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: only one year older than Sam Donald. Every year there's

649
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Speaker 1: some drafts that about a quarterback versus Sam Donald, and

650
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Speaker 1: that's it. If Pickett got drafted to the Panthers, he's

651
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: only a year older than Donald, who has been in

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Speaker 1: the league for seventeen years. The question is will you

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Speaker 1: be annoyed Graver? If if they do end up taking

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Speaker 1: the quarterback that that will kind of be a major

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Speaker 1: subplot of the summer. Give me Sam Howell. Howell, alright, interesting,

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Speaker 1: I'll do some research on That. Was Greg's double Banger,

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Speaker 1: upwork dot com. Finally, and we got warming up in

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Speaker 1: the bullpen Maurice Jones Drew talking draft Mark take us

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Speaker 1: home with sandwich props. All right, this is just something

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Speaker 1: that um, why did I do that again? And now

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Speaker 1: you go, I don't understand how this show works obviously. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is just something that came to me in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night. Um, now, this is not a

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Speaker 1: player necessary early alright, human being in Las Vegas. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, you only bring how many players to the

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. You know what's gonna happen. We're gonna get

668
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: tweets and things of that nature. You guys are being

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Speaker 1: mean to Mark, But again it's more the it's it's

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Speaker 1: the drop that we're trying to struggle because we're all

671
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Speaker 1: moving with the drop. But your struggle. Let me be clear,

672
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm blaming myself like I should. There was so

673
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Speaker 1: like we went through an instructional in the last round

674
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Speaker 1: about I should have absolutely known what was gonna happen there,

675
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Speaker 1: So it's not your fault. All right now, I'm sorry

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00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: to interrupt. We're going to reset and Mark will give

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Speaker 1: us his final prop. Look at that steely focus. A

678
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: draftable place we'll go missing during the draft. Oh, I

679
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Speaker 1: like it clothing strong, So it's not I'm not talking

680
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Speaker 1: about it doesn't have to be one of the people

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Speaker 1: that are in Las Vegas, although you think that might

682
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Speaker 1: be a better place to go missing. Um, all the

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00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: players that are draftable around the country, someone's going to

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Speaker 1: go missing and they will not be They will be

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Speaker 1: drafted on any talking like abduction here, right, we don't

686
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Speaker 1: we I in my heart of hearts, I think it

687
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: has a happy ending. But I just think that during

688
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: the draft process it's mysterious. The player is how does

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Speaker 1: it work with I don't know, is there an actual

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Speaker 1: pool of I don't know, five hundred or something, or

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Speaker 1: is it anyone that had played college? Like, how does

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Speaker 1: the draft there's a clear list someone that was news

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Speaker 1: worthy enough that it became a story and we learned

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Speaker 1: about it, So that would indicate a person that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get drafted. Right, if some guy who had like six

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Speaker 1: catches at Sam Houston State, you can't locate him, that

697
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: no one's gonna know about it. Like if some guy

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Speaker 1: at Rockland Community College went down to Tijuana like he payed,

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Speaker 1: if we never know about it, I would never win

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Speaker 1: the sandwich prop if no humans learned about it. I mean,

701
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Speaker 1: I don't like the idea that most of Mark's sandwiches.

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00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: Um props are generally something you could make like a

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Speaker 1: Netflix three part documentary about not not everything in the

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Speaker 1: world is you know, roses and strawberry ice now, so

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00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, we can root for people to get abducted

706
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: on the biggest week in of their lives. That's great,

707
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: But it's not just abduction. It's basically going off the rails.

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Speaker 1: It's something where mental health breakdown. Mental health. What about

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Speaker 1: where they like they went to Bill Belichick's you know,

710
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Speaker 1: draft room, and it was his dog. Is that missing?

711
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: Like that clip was going around crazy? No, no no, no,

712
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: And this is like like again, I think the person

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Speaker 1: will be located at some point in a in a

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00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: fine fashion. But you asked that question though it would

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Speaker 1: be a news item, not a dog in Bill Belichick's house.

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Speaker 1: A person is they go missing and they'll at some

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Speaker 1: point someone it's probably in rapid board at NFL Network

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Speaker 1: is reporting that they can't find third round guard for exactly.

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Speaker 1: It puts on a serious voice, like with the gas

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Speaker 1: mask Bob a couple of years back. It is like

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Speaker 1: a really upsetting development here and like and Marks, I

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Speaker 1: got his fingers across. Does that come on? Somebody be missing?

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Speaker 1: Somebody be missing? Well, I want to win. You would

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Speaker 1: win big. That would be one of those home run

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Speaker 1: shots out of the pus is this is the five

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Speaker 1: forty ft three run blast. I love it. Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 1: We'll take you on it. I don't like it though.

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00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: I feel like we're all hanging too much onions. Well

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Speaker 1: that's what makes it fun. Let's take a break, and

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Speaker 1: the great m j D we'll join us. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we are joined by the greatest Jaguar of all time,

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Speaker 1: a longtime colleague. Now we're talking. We're getting into the

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Speaker 1: deck the decade territory and one of the draft analysts

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Speaker 1: for NFL Network referring, of course, to Blake Bortles. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm referring to Mariice Jones. Drew m j D. What's up, buddy,

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Speaker 1: welcome for the first time to be around the NFL part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the first. You know, first of all, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the um you're expensive, you're expensive, I guess, I guess

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Speaker 1: you could say that, but you didn't say that the

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Speaker 1: best number sixtie pick ever in the NFL draft during

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Speaker 1: draftwick to who is the competition? I don't know, it

742
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He just took the greatest Jaguar of all

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Speaker 1: time and you're like, yeah, I mean you got to

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Speaker 1: do that. That's easy. When on the sixtieth thing, you

745
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: know that no one's can actually sit around and do

746
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Speaker 1: the research, so you just you just throw it out there.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think I'm gonna have them put out

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Speaker 1: my tombstone as when they come up the best number

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Speaker 1: sixt draft ever in the NFL draft. Mean, Tony PSELLI

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Speaker 1: is going into the Hall of Fame, but I mean

751
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: he went to the other schools, so I mean that

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00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: kind of knocks him down a little bit. Real Before

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Speaker 1: we get to your mock draft and where you stand

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Speaker 1: on on this draft, I'm curious where you stand on

755
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: the Jags. Um, how do you feel about Trevor Lawrence?

756
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: By the way, do you think when everything was said

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00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: and done last year, the fact that he played every week,

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Speaker 1: he took that beating, had all the dysfunction behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and still you know, did not do a ton of

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Speaker 1: talking in the media. Descrubbed to me, I was impressed

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Speaker 1: by it. How did you come out of the season

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Speaker 1: for him? I always think when you have a rookie quarterback,

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00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: you have to do as much around him as possible, right, Uh,

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00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: Jags didn't do that, you know, and then on top

765
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Speaker 1: of that, they were tearing him down as they went right.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that you don't play James Robinson because

767
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: he fumbles one time, or you benched him for like,

768
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: it was just so many things, and so I do

769
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Speaker 1: see it as a positive. But we have to move

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00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: past that now. Now it's like we've gotten you some weapons.

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00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: It's time to see what you can do, because we

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00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: need to be able to really figure out if you're

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Speaker 1: the guy or not. Right, so many times we try

774
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: to give these quarterbacks like I eat Daniel Jones every chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the number one over I'll pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft, in one of the best prospects of the

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Speaker 1: last five years. They're giving him a few years. They're

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Speaker 1: giving him three years. Man. But but that's what I'm saying.

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00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: You have to give him the chance. You have to

780
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: given the pieces and then we can we can evaluate you. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of times number one picks don't work out.

782
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: Happens all the time, and it's the draft, right, So

783
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: in this situation, you just say, look that year's a wash.

784
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: I love the fact that they went out and got

785
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's a Jones, They went and got every ingram.

786
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: They putting guys around. You've got a coach that coach

787
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: played the position the National Football League. Yeah, one, all

788
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: those things you're doing, all that, let's not work. Defense

789
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: will be fine. Let's put everything around him so we

790
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: can evaluate him so we can move forward. Because as

791
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: we all know, you need a quarterback in the National

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00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: Football week, Uh, to contend, right, your quarterback has to

793
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Speaker 1: be able to to if you have a bad play

794
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: call to be able to either have the athleticism to

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Speaker 1: get you to turn into a decent play or a

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Speaker 1: great play, or have the mental capacity to be able

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00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: to change to play into a better play more times

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Speaker 1: than none. And that and that's what we're not seeing here.

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Speaker 1: A lot with somebody's gonna ask you a part B

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Speaker 1: to that, Like, let's so you know, it probably was

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00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: about uh two weeks into the Urban Meyer experience, where

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Speaker 1: certain players on that team are thinking, what the hell

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Speaker 1: is going on here? Like you've been in You've been

804
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: on some good teams, some bad teams. Like what happens

805
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: when you find out the coach is a hurricane of chaos? What?

806
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: How does what do people just say, I'm protecting my body,

807
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: this is a this is a nightmare. So I'll tell

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00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: I guess from my perspective. Um, I was there during

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Speaker 1: training camp and I kind of saw the way they

810
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Speaker 1: were practicing. They were practicing hard, like it was one

811
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: of those old college practices where you're hitting every day

812
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: oh day. I mean they had already been fined for

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00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: doing some drills and O T A s and they

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00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to do, so they were in those tough situations.

815
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Speaker 1: Then it happened before in Jacksonville when jackson went to

816
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: the AMC Championship game. They had practiced really hard that summer,

817
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: uh in training camp, and they kind of bled over

818
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: into the season and they played well. The key is

819
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: when you practice like that, you have to have instant success,

820
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: because if you don't have success and we're working this hard,

821
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: it becomes a problem because now like I'm getting beat

822
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Speaker 1: up more in practice than i am the game, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm not seeing the fruits of my labor. And

824
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: so what happens, You're right, what happens in that situations

825
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Guys start to protect themselves. You start seeing little clicks

826
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: group up in the locker room. Uh, it becomes pretty

827
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: much like high school, like, look, this is my guy.

828
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna protect my guy. I'm but doing his best.

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Speaker 1: Receivers are gonna start talking to the quarterback a I'm open,

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Speaker 1: let me get this rock. Because you know you're playing

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00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you may not be here next year because of how

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Speaker 1: bad you are, So you're kind of playing herself and

833
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: trying to preserve your future with whatever team it. Maybe

834
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: because you're on some good Jacks teams. Uh, you're on

835
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: some messy teams too. You were at the Dennis Allen Raiders. Yeah,

836
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: the team that famously Uh, our friend Chris Wesleyan had

837
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: no faith in those Dennis Allen Raiders. Back on the

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Speaker 1: deck that was listening, that might have been the most

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Speaker 1: talented team that had ever been on in my like

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Speaker 1: in two thousands seven, we were a really good team.

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Speaker 1: We had a great receive We had really good receivers.

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Speaker 1: Matt Jones gotta showed up and played well. Six six

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Speaker 1: guy run four or three old quarterback from Arkansas. Right.

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Speaker 1: We had Reggie Williams top of traffick from Washington and

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Speaker 1: Ernest Wolf from Virginia's. We had some big guys when

846
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: we when I got to the Raiders, we had receivers

847
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: that were six three to fifteen, ran four three forties,

848
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: catch the ball. I just said, I was like, what's

849
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: going on? Like, why can't we win with these guys?

850
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: You had left tackles and I mean we had a

851
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: team of guys. Um. Sometimes it just it has to

852
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: click for you. Right again, the I I worked for

853
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: the Rams, obviously we I don't know if we talked

854
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: about that work for the Rams. When shop McVeigh first

855
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: got to l A, we didn't know if assistant was

856
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna work. But the guess who the first game was against?

857
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: You guys have an idea it was in the colle

858
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: se him the first regular season game, regular season game,

859
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was against the Colts. You know who?

860
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: The quarterback was Scott told me, and they put up

861
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: forty five. Now, no matter what happens throughout the rest

862
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: of the season, your season starts off right because your

863
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: message is now there you go. Your message. Your message

864
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: is kind of like, okay, it's working right. Even though

865
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: we didn't play a really good team, the message works right,

866
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: and so the rams go off and that messages continue

867
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: to work because they've been successful. And the biggest thing

868
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: is whenever your new coach having success as early as possible, right,

869
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: And you look at urban Meyer again as an example,

870
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: that first game against the Texans, You're like, oh my god,

871
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: what is happening here? You kicked the kicker during preseason?

872
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: You can't like like there are so many things that

873
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: went wrong that you had to get out of that

874
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: is I mean, to be honest. To not fly back

875
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: with the team was was like to me, was like, yeah, exactly,

876
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: how do you You're the CEO, You're telling everyone what

877
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: to do, and then you don't get back on the

878
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: plane with us after a Thursday night game. Well, listen,

879
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: you were ahead of we. I hope I'm not talking

880
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: out of school here, but we watched Sunday night football

881
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: together in the theater here and we had a great

882
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: time getting to know each other, and you were you

883
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: had given us some of those Meyer nuggets weeks before

884
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: it had come out. You were plugged in. And on

885
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: that note, we look at your mock draft here you

886
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: got Trayvon Walker going number one to the Jacks. Vegas

887
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: has Trayvon Walker going to the Jags. It must have

888
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: been following the following my mom draft. Who told you

889
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: this shod can tell you that he's taking Traymon will

890
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: just be honest. So so no, I'm gonna I'll give

891
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: you kind of what I've heard at this point. I

892
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: heard there's three or four guys there after the report

893
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: came out that you know, Sean Khan wants Hutchinson. I

894
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: think Trim Balky. He loves Trayvon Walker. That's kind of

895
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: why I put him there because at the time, it's

896
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: just like he has the skill set with what they're

897
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: trying to build in Jacksonville. He played in that SEC

898
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: they won a championship. They want all that pedigree to

899
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: come to Jacksonville. Very similar what uh Mike Mayock did

900
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: with the ray when he was drafting all those cleansome

901
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: guys and Alabama guys. He's trying to bring that to

902
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: the league. Um. But then the last but not least

903
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: is you know, Bucky just put ikey iguandu at at

904
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: the first over pick because Doug Peterson is a quarterback

905
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: and he wants to protect his guy. And so it's

906
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: whoever's going to run the draft is the one that's

907
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna pick. And I think those are the three the

908
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: top guys that they're going with. They'll probably be Evan

909
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Neil as well. And there's the fourth guy if you

910
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: want to go. But if you're the head coach, and

911
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who has the power per se, if

912
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: it's the g M or if it's the head coach,

913
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: you know how that struggle could be. Um, whoever has

914
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: that power? There you go like that'll tell you what

915
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: that pick will be. In general, if we were to

916
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: give you a truth serum and you would lose consciousness

917
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: of where you are right now, and we were just

918
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: apply you for information, are you with with you a

919
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: birds all over the league? Are you sitting on explosive

920
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: information that would make headlines? Can't be possibly? I mean,

921
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: isn't it a problem though that he's talking about the Jaguars,

922
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: who me that. No, you're talking about the Jaguars, and

923
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: you're like, well, the owner wants this, the GM wants this,

924
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: the coach might want this. This is the first year

925
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: of the regime, Like, isn't this an already an issue?

926
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: Isn't this the problem with the Jaguars. I do take

927
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: special interest in your mock and Bucky's mock because Bucket

928
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: gets a check from the Jaguars. I'm like, OK. And

929
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: then you're you're going back there for like legends weekend

930
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: and you're doing the things that you have relationships, relations

931
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: you have relationships or is it healthy? Because like a

932
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: little body language of walking Sea Superman, I would say this,

933
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I think it's healthy that everyone has a different view, right.

934
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: I I'd never have been a fan of yes man

935
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: or everyone thinking the same way, because if you make

936
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: the wrong turn, there's no one there to tell you

937
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: to go left and you go right, it could be

938
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: it could be over. And so I love the fact

939
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: that they have different difference in an opinion and you

940
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: can respectfully uh debate those opinions. It's whoever, but whoever

941
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: is the person that's gonna have um the control should

942
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: have that pick, which I don't don't know who that is,

943
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: and that I think that's that's where we're gonna find

944
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: that out. Uh in a couple of days. Who has

945
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: all the control? And there you haven't. So you want

946
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: me to say it again for you. If it's Walker,

947
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: Balky has a control, If it's the tackles, the coach,

948
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the coach, and if and if you're an owner though,

949
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: and then you you don't want it getting out there

950
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: that you don't have the control. It's deferring to football people,

951
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: which you should. At this point, I think it's not

952
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: speaking to this function, but rather week since it hasn't

953
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: happened yet, we're learning where the power lies exactly. Starting

954
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: with the first pick. What Greg, What about the running backs? Yeah,

955
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm curious who you like out of this class. I

956
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: know we haven't talked about pre saw, Kenny Walker, any

957
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: of those guys or later round guys like who who's

958
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: caught your eye? I mean you can easily going on

959
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash m j D and go to

960
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: my when I ranked the RBS. It's very simple. I

961
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: know we worked for the same This is not that

962
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: this is not a read studio. This is why he

963
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: always likes to mix it up. It's just one. Um.

964
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: So obviously I think Breeze Hall, Kenneth Walker are with

965
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: the top. Um James Cook I think is really good

966
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: as well, is it you gotta remembered in order to

967
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: be playing in the NFL, you have to be a

968
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: three down back, right. You gotta be able to catch

969
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: them while in the backfield. Kind of be a mismatch.

970
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: More of these guys are leaning wards towards McCaffrey and

971
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: his style of player where you can line up Alvin

972
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: Camary wide receiver in the slot. Any of these dudes

973
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: special though. Any of these guys, when you watch him,

974
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: you'd be like, that could be the dude, that could

975
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: be the next Maurice Jones drew the greatest NFL draft history.

976
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any of those. But until my

977
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: son comes out, and that's a couple of years, like

978
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: eight years away, so we're we had some top eight years.

979
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: But UM, I think Zamir White to me, reminds me

980
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: of Adrian Peterson. Now he doesn't they don't talk a

981
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: lot about him, but his style of playing, how he runs, tough,

982
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: physical breaks tackles. He doesn't get enough love. Um, Breeze Hall.

983
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: Obviously we saw what he's been able to do. He's

984
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: all over everywhere. Kenneth Waller as well. UM, and then

985
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other just there's some second tier

986
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: guys that I think are really good. Right, there's a

987
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: running back Brooks out of Oklahoma State or not not Oklahoma,

988
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: say Oklahoma excuse me. I know that people will get upset,

989
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: but he's a great runner, has great vision, great field

990
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: for the game, sets up his blocks really well. He

991
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: just doesn't have the birch around like a four or six.

992
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: Ronnie Rivers out of Fresno States from my hometown. Actually

993
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: his dad. I coached with his dad and youth football

994
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: UM last year and I will this year. Uh can

995
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: do everything. Is dad played the NFL, played for the

996
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. UM. Really good. Really noticed that you're you're

997
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: using your platform as a as a draft you know,

998
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: analyst and media guy to artificially promote the players that

999
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: you've coached through the high school. And it's like a

1000
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: cycle that you'll get we're gonna get hold on, We'll

1001
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: get their hard. Officially, that feels like definitely what happens?

1002
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: Why why why wouldn't I use his youth platform. I'm

1003
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna get there in a second. I never coach Ronnie Rivers.

1004
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: I just watched his tape. I think what he does well?

1005
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: He everything. He does everything very well. Not really great,

1006
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: but everything very well, which translates to the National Football League. Right,

1007
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: you could be a third down guy, blocks really well,

1008
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: catch the ball in the backfield. He can run in

1009
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: between the tackles. Broke all the records. He was productive

1010
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: at Fresnel State, broke all their records, which is nice. Right,

1011
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: broke his dad's records, which is good. Now you want

1012
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: to talk about someone that I coached. Okay, so listen,

1013
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks are coming out in this draft, and

1014
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: everyone's all excited about Kennie Pickett, Leek Willis and all

1015
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: these guys. Why I just got a name for you,

1016
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: Carson Strong. You know, I told people, I said, you know,

1017
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, And he gets some questions in the meetings

1018
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: with coaches like what did Maurice really coach you? No question?

1019
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: Did I really? What did I coach my coach quarterbacks?

1020
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Like it's the thing to do. Carson Strong is a

1021
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: phenomenal talent. Now he hasn't a knee issue that a

1022
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: lot of people are. But I think it's fine. I

1023
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: don't think it's a bad thing. Um, he stayed. He's

1024
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: not a mobile guy, which again in the National Football League,

1025
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: tell me the last mobile quarterback to win the Super

1026
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: Bowl Russell Wilson two thousand twelve, Just to give that

1027
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: to you, And that's what I'm trying to tell you.

1028
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: But who's the non mobile quarterback to come into the

1029
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: league and make an impact? And I don't mean you

1030
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: have to be like crazy athetic, but I'm saying, like

1031
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: at least a Joke level or Ryan Tannehill level of athleticism.

1032
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: What does Joe? What Joe? I mean, that's ten years ago.

1033
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins though, yeah, I mean, I mean there's guys

1034
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: that have been the league, have been successful. I'm saying,

1035
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: when was the last one, though, to come in without

1036
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: kind of a baseline of athleticism. I'm not to make

1037
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: an impact my guys. He's athletic, he can run, he's

1038
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: a he's a basketball players. Not that he's just not

1039
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: like overly fast. He's not going to just blow you away.

1040
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: He's he can escape out of the pocket five or

1041
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: six yards. He may not get a first down, but

1042
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: that's fine, but he's what he can do. He can

1043
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: maneuver in the pocket, a great pocket awareness, he can

1044
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: throw from any platform, and he has a strong arm.

1045
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: And this is the other thing, and this is where

1046
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: it gets. It gets. He's a winner before he went

1047
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: to Nevada, and no disrespect to Nevada, they weren't doing

1048
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: pretty good. He goes there, they win, They win the

1049
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: Mountain West a couple of times. He wins Layer of

1050
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: the Year a couple of times. Now the guess what

1051
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: he left? The coach left, and I tell you something

1052
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: like like the colleges, like we did all we could

1053
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: do here. We're our guys. We're gonna leave too. And

1054
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: so to me, I don't know where he would go.

1055
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: I put him in my in my first mock draft.

1056
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: I put him at thirty two two the lines. Uh,

1057
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: because he's and and the other thing. I think people

1058
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: knock his confidences cockiness. He's a super confident kid, as

1059
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: he should be. Right, you're you. You took a program

1060
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: that was kind of on the brinks of not being

1061
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: very good to being a perennial conference champion. Uh in college,

1062
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: that's that's big time. I would say, you know, so,

1063
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: my mock draft is coming out on on tomorrow's episode.

1064
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Is it, Yes, And a tremendous amount of research went

1065
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: into that. But I also I think the spice level

1066
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: on yours is hard to match. In the top ten.

1067
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: There's no one else with the mock draft like this

1068
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: out there. I perused that there aren't. You have Kenny

1069
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Pickett to Carolina, Malik Willis to Atlanta, which I kind

1070
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: of love, by the way, Desmond Ritter to Seattle. They

1071
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: get in the mix, and that Matt Corral did the

1072
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: Saints and sat right, and the Saints give two number

1073
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: one to the Jets in the middle of that. And

1074
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: also just one little thing later in your draft, you

1075
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: just drop this little nugget that the forty nine ers

1076
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: somehow suddenly picking number twenty nine if they traded Deebo

1077
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: Samuel to the Chiefs. So there's a lot. I don't

1078
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: know what what influences you were under this, but I

1079
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I wasn't. I wasn't our good friend Brooks

1080
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: or Saco Mode. We were talking about it, and I

1081
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: was like, look, I just want to be different. I

1082
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: want a run at quarterback somewhere in this draft. I

1083
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: believe if one is taken in the top ten, it's

1084
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna and then to taking the top ten and then

1085
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we know how the leagues get.

1086
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Guys get a little nervous and they try to go

1087
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: make a run for us multiple guys golf, So we

1088
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: just wanted to do that. I think the Saints trading

1089
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: up for Matt Correll with the Jets makes sense, right

1090
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: They they they're looking for a quarterback. I feel like

1091
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: there are a quarterback and a receiver away, but it's

1092
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: such a deep receiver draft you probably can get one

1093
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: in the second round that can help you out, like

1094
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: and they got those two picks to potentially package and

1095
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: move up, and that's gotta be happy you're thinking right there.

1096
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: And I think with Riddard with the Seahawks was that

1097
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: all I've in here and is how great he's been

1098
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: and how he's moving up in this process. I don't

1099
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: know where he started. I don't know where he's gonna finish,

1100
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: but teams are looking forward. If you're Seattle, are you

1101
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna really win with Drew lock and um, you know Smith,

1102
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: Like come on, let's be honest, yes, Greg, yes, yes,

1103
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think Gina is an underrated talent. Stop

1104
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: it the one that did all? All he did was okay,

1105
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: so what would we don't need to Okay, let me stop,

1106
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: let me stop. We're not gonna talk about Gina. But anyways,

1107
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: I just think that you need more if you want

1108
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: to win. And we know Pete Carroll's about competing and

1109
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't like to lose, and so you still need

1110
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback uh on your roster to help you win.

1111
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: You're going to get the rams. You're in the Rams

1112
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: and vision. I mean, those guys aren't gonna go. Are

1113
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: you getting loose in Vegas? How you're handling the draft

1114
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: in terms of your personal behavior in decorum? I will

1115
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: be working here. Yeah, I didn't get to go to Vegas.

1116
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm probably the more like chill

1117
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: guy here. Well, you're a fun guy though you like

1118
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: to go mix it up like well, you go to London,

1119
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: you know you find your way. Oh my gosh. First

1120
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: and foremost, I hope all the people here that are

1121
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: listening from London, I missed you guys so much. I

1122
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: hope you guys cheered for me the way they cheered

1123
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: for the round, the NFL guys that bother bother the

1124
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: hell out of me. Really, they were the thousand people

1125
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: did not stronghold too, And that's the other problem. The

1126
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: last time I was there with the Jags, they rooted

1127
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: for Josh Scobe. This this is this is a de

1128
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: people wound. If you want me to go into, I

1129
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: can go into it, but I will forget I'm going

1130
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: to it. They rooted for Josh Scoby, Okay, who was

1131
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: our kicker, right, and this is two thousand thirteen, this

1132
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: was it was early, I get it. But then Josh

1133
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: Scoby was the first jersey that my firstborn son war

1134
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: to his first game. And so now that you know

1135
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: it's it's deep, It's it's deeper than you guys. But

1136
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: you know, you guys end up getting bled on from

1137
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: the world and they're still not giving you that love. Now,

1138
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: they're just like some other over rated white guys. You know.

1139
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys got a little bit. We still

1140
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: have the show on Channel five, the Channel five Monday

1141
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: night show that we do, but but you know, you

1142
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: know who gets all the love on that show, Kirsten

1143
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: Kirston Watson. They love her. It's just me and money.

1144
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: So now I'm just sitting next to money. So we

1145
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: just gotta we gotta figure out a way to get

1146
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: up your game in the US. I think this appearance

1147
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: is a start. I think, right, we gotta have you

1148
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: on regularly. I do want to plant you know, m

1149
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: j D. There's a lot of x NFL players that

1150
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: work at NFL Network, but not all of them are

1151
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: as cool as m j D. Not all of them

1152
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: mixes it up with everyone. They mixes it up with us,

1153
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: mixes it up with everyone at the desk. Uh is

1154
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: a great guy. But I always think of how your

1155
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: relationship with Chris Wesley. I don't even know if you

1156
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: know this, if you ever talked about it with him,

1157
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: had a maturation, had an arc to it. Maybe maybe

1158
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: you didn't even know. I remember initially because m j D.

1159
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: He likes to poke. He likes to poke the bear

1160
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. He likes to give people the business

1161
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. But that's how he's showing love. And

1162
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: I think early on, I remember West there was some

1163
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: something happened when you guys were on an NFL Now

1164
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: set and you were poking the bear and he thought

1165
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: you were like this ex athlete who was like using

1166
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: his didn't respect him, and he and he didn't. He

1167
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: didn't take that too kindly. If if you went at West,

1168
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: you were a big time on his raider. But I

1169
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: remember him telling me over the next six months, over

1170
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: that season, oh wow, I was really wrong about m

1171
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: j D. He's a cool guy. You know. It was

1172
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: this maturation where he realized you're just one of the guys. Uh,

1173
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful well you and like Taylor

1174
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: were coming at us a little bit, kind of testing

1175
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: us to see if we test everybody because we were

1176
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: working with Scheck and that was like the way. Let

1177
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: me tell you my first memory. They had this White

1178
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: Couch show on Sunday's All Day you guys. It was

1179
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: a live streaming show. It was Check hosting it with

1180
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: m j D and Ike and Elliott Harrison and then

1181
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: Colleen was like Vana White. Colleen was like Van of White.

1182
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: And they would cycle in the around the NFL, jabrones

1183
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: in to talk certain games. And I remember the season

1184
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: finale in two thousand fifteen and the Jets had to

1185
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: beat the Bad Bills team in Buffalo to make it

1186
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and Ryan Fitzpatrick through three interceptions. I

1187
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: was sent immediately to the couch and then the entire

1188
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: ten minutes segment was m j D and Ike laughing

1189
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: at me. That works. That's pretty much. I never heard

1190
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: that story because I remember, I mean, we didn't laugh

1191
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: at you because you guys were rolling in. Dan was

1192
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: never more down to tape in around the NFL podcast

1193
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: than he was for that week seventeen. That was the

1194
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: only season since we've been doing the show. You were

1195
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: struggling to get through the Jets three cap that day,

1196
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: and they were the story. But now I know it

1197
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: was partly because you beat him down. It was I

1198
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: think it was because early that week, if I if

1199
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: I remember, we were kind of doing like pregame things,

1200
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, which fits pastor? Is gonna show up?

1201
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: Like the wrong one shows up every time when you

1202
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: needed to win? So it happens. I think we might

1203
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: have a special guest. I think you do. I think

1204
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: it's time for me to leave. Is m j D

1205
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: leaving or are we having the special desk guests come

1206
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: in here? No? I think I should go. You should

1207
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: give him a little bit more attention. I don't even

1208
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: know who this person is. All Right, when he comes in,

1209
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk out, all right? Here we go he

1210
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: m D who was a pleasure always, Thank you. And

1211
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: as m j D rolls out, rolling in is the man,

1212
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: the myth, the potential legend, Cavan Thibodeau. Surprise, who is

1213
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: joining around? This was not planned. This is one of

1214
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: the potential top picks in the draft, maybe the number

1215
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: one pick. And and now he's going to take a seat. Oh,

1216
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: I got carefully. That would be a tough way if

1217
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to put that on camera. All right,

1218
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: here we go. These their chairs for you know, shorter

1219
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: guys like me and m cave On. What's up? Welcome

1220
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: to around the NFL. Thank you for having me. It's

1221
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: a blessing. I walked by, you know, two or three times,

1222
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: and I was gonna, you know, bombard you guys earlier,

1223
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: but you know, we have some stuff to do. Thanks

1224
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: for joining me. You know, we've done this show since

1225
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: twenty and I don't think we've ever had someone just

1226
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: walk up and in, at least of your stature here

1227
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: that we didn't know what was planning. You're making history

1228
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: right now. So you know the thing about it is

1229
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: you either make history or you be history. So I

1230
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: like doing things a little different. So what have you

1231
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: guys been discussing today. Oh, well, do you know Chinese

1232
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: foreign relations? Uh? You know the price of salt? No,

1233
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: the draft NonStop. I mean, Marie Jones drew the Great

1234
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: Jaguar running back turn NFL network analysts. We just did

1235
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: some talk about running backs and how he thinks there's

1236
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a quarterback run. Now Cavan, Where is Cavan

1237
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: going in the top ten? You tell me? I mean,

1238
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, if I was a GM, I'm going number one.

1239
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's no brainer. But again, I

1240
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: don't call the shot. So for me, now I'm at

1241
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: peace and I'm just waiting. I'm excited. I've been thinking

1242
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: about it. I put on my analysts had and I'm

1243
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: just trying to see how this is gonna shake out.

1244
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm excited. You know. People are asking me, and you know,

1245
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, do you know where you gonna go?

1246
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: Do you know where where you're gonna go? And I

1247
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: have no clue, you know, and it's two days out,

1248
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, a day on, I'm pretty sure no one

1249
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: knows where anybody will go. Mentioned tomorrow, my mock draft

1250
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: is coming out, and I will tell you where you're going. Okay,

1251
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: And it should be higher. I think it's a it's

1252
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: a little bit disrespected, caught off guard. If you would

1253
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: have known, would have would I would have rewritten something.

1254
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: This is good though. Number four to the New York

1255
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: Jets do have long need and team a presence like you.

1256
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: How would you feel about that? Can I just let

1257
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: me just give you a little more background? Cavan John

1258
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: Abraham two thousand six, the last Jets edge rusher or

1259
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: real disruptor that could get after a quarterback. We've been

1260
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: waiting now for more than fifteen years. I would love

1261
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: if you were on my favorite team. Come on, now,

1262
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: it's time you got to manifest it. That's the thing

1263
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: I've been realized. It's all about manifesting. It's all about

1264
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: the energy you kind of put into the world. So

1265
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: just keep putting that out there and hopefully you drop. Okay,

1266
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: so you like that one because Carl Lawson's coming back

1267
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: him on one side, you do on the other New York.

1268
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean you have to as a player. I feel

1269
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: like it's not talked about it, but you must be

1270
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: thinking about, like, well, which place am I gonna go

1271
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: live in for the next four or five years? Maybe

1272
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: tend to tal like who knows how Like, so have

1273
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: you thought about the different cities and like which one?

1274
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm every day I sit on Zillo and I'm like, man,

1275
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: if I go to New York, I live in a

1276
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: two bedroom apartment. If I go to Detroit, I live

1277
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: in a mansion. I'm like, I go to Jacksonville, I

1278
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: live in a mansion. So I'm like just trying to

1279
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: figure out which. So kind of are you thinking? More

1280
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: like you'd rather have a place you can spread out

1281
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: a little, or you'd rather be in the middle of

1282
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: like a big city. And from l A. I love

1283
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: the big city. I love, you know, um having something

1284
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: to do. But then again, I also love my family

1285
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: and I love being, you know, in my own space.

1286
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: So for me, I think it'll be find a happy

1287
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: medium where if I go to a New York team,

1288
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: I'll try to find, you know, some some space that's

1289
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: not too far. Not a lot of them live in

1290
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: New Jersey. That's what I hear in New Jersey. When

1291
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: I was there, I saw it. It It was it's nice

1292
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: and spaced out. But the prices, you know, I'm cheating,

1293
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm cheap, So I'm gonna buy something. I'm gonna building myself.

1294
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: You know what is I take some construction classes. What

1295
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: is what is the toughest part of this process? Because

1296
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: it is, Look, look we'll keep it real here. So

1297
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: like with Kevan, sometimes it's like this guy is gonna

1298
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: be the best player in the draft. Uh, some people

1299
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: say he doesn't have the motor or it isn't always

1300
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: into it, Like, isn't that? How does it feel to

1301
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: hear so much positive and negative stuff just over and

1302
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: over for three month process? The funniest part about it is,

1303
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know those people who say these things.

1304
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. When you don't know somebody kind

1305
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: of it takes away that, you know, that emotional tie

1306
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: to what someone's saying. But when you just talk about

1307
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: just getting everything ready for you know, this moment where

1308
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, from family to to the build up to

1309
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, working out maintaining everything that you've built upon

1310
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: and kind of having that forward thinking right because this

1311
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: is a big moment, but it's not the top of

1312
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: the hill, right, this is just a stepping stone. So

1313
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: as long as I kind of keep that forward thinking

1314
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: to know that regardless of what happens, you know on

1315
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: third day, I still got to go put a helmet

1316
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: on and go play. But it's also a culmination. I mean,

1317
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: you're someone, especially as like a hugely recruited high school player,

1318
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: that the hope was that you were gonna get to

1319
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: this point all the way back then, so that it

1320
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,959
Speaker 1: is a great night. We love to watch the draft

1321
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: and just see everyone's joy because for you it's it's

1322
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: the end of of such a long process. For us,

1323
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: we're just kind of crashing into it. We're dumb when

1324
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: it comes to the draft, like we're we're cramming. So

1325
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: I want to say I was gonna say, I don't

1326
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: know if there needs to be like a draft college.

1327
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be gone. Yeah we are,

1328
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: there should be saying there should be because we don't

1329
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: try to pretend I feel like some in the media

1330
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: try to pretend that they really we're learning as we go.

1331
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: So for dumb um, for people catching up like us cramming,

1332
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: tell us, like what makes you like? What what separates you? What?

1333
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: What's the cavon Thibodeaux all about Aiden Hutchinson? Why is

1334
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: it cavan to um? I don't I just so I

1335
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: feel like I'm you know, I'm going to be one

1336
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: of the greatest to ever play this position and play

1337
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: the game, and it's not because of what I've done, right,

1338
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's the misconception, right, that people think

1339
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: I believe that I'm I should be in this position

1340
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: because of what I've done. Oh is about what I'm

1341
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're not rich until you do something with

1342
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: the money. You get what I'm saying, So I could

1343
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: get here and make these millions. What's your like skill

1344
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: set though, that that's gonna help you get it done

1345
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: that you think is gonna translate in the NFL. It's

1346
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: it's it's learned and apply. That's the skill set. How

1347
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: many people can learn and apply and how fast can

1348
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: you learn and apply? Right? So for me, I've really

1349
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: taken heat to to being able to get information and

1350
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: then apply to my game. So I say that where

1351
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: everything that I need to get better at, everything that

1352
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: I need to work on, everything that you know I'm

1353
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: being coached to do, I can learn it and apply it,

1354
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: and then I can also get those extra you know,

1355
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: uh in between the lines, things from the vets and

1356
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: everything that could just pour into me. And I'm just

1357
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna keep dying. I would you have you've been making visits,

1358
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: You've talked to coaches around the league's gm IS, They've

1359
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: been looking deeper you You you do you have a

1360
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: sense that there's a pack of small pack of teams

1361
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: that are the most interested in you. Do you have

1362
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: an agent saying it seems like it could be here

1363
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: or here top five. Well, like me, the difference between

1364
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: me and you guys will feel it like once I

1365
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: leave this, you guys are gonna feel like you know me.

1366
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: And it's not because I'm I want to. I want

1367
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: to be you guys as friends. But it's because I'm authentic.

1368
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: A I don't. I'm I'm authentic, and how you know,

1369
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: I'll project myself and I want to be so like

1370
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I said, all the coaches I've met, everybody I've met,

1371
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 1: it's genuinely who I am. Right, So forget what you've heard,

1372
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: forget what's being saying, forget the images framed in al

1373
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: right here from the horse's mouth, which one of us

1374
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: would give you the biggest challenge if we were lined

1375
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: up in an athletic competition to try to stop you

1376
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: from getting to a quarterback. I'm gonna tell you who

1377
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: I want to say as you why because you have

1378
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: a poker face. They have no poker face. They're here

1379
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: telling me I love somebody who puts it on like

1380
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: they got it all together. Well, top number number one

1381
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: overall pick finally you got you got the answer. You

1382
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: bility for all these years. Cavon U Timodeau, thank you

1383
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: so much. I really do want you to be on

1384
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: the jets. I hope it works out. That would put

1385
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: you in the top five. That's what you want. So

1386
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: if you don't go number one, which is ideal, come

1387
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: to come to Flora Park. Let's let's get wild. That's

1388
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: all these rumors going around. Go start some rumors, give

1389
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: me a new whoever you guys, just go start some

1390
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: rumors and let's get there. Good stuff, A charge ahead. Tavon.

1391
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, buddy. You good luck with everything, guys.

1392
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: You guys have a good one. Oh there he goes.

1393
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: Now that was a surprise, Ricky. How did that that

1394
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: really come together? As it was explained, he just walked

1395
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: past the glass the fish bowl here and wanted to

1396
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: jump off. Yeah, he luked, and he popped in and

1397
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: he goes, what are they doing? And I go, go

1398
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: on in, take take a walk. He took a look

1399
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: at our download numbers obviously and said this is important

1400
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: for my He was like, oh are those of the

1401
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: around the end of all? Right? That's what in our

1402
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: in our heart of hearts, I think we were all

1403
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: hoping for that. That He's like, um, you know, pick

1404
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: saw them there with them j D. I'm a huge fan.

1405
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be friends, but that's that's okay.

1406
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: Honestly that they honestly was good. Um, and you know what,

1407
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: Like he is a guy that's a polarizing prospect because

1408
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: people say that he might be arguably the best player

1409
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: in this strap, but then there are some concerns. I

1410
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: have a theory about this. I haven't seen this. I

1411
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: think when he I don't think coaches and scouts like

1412
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: the idea of players who are potentially smarter than them

1413
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: and like not like smarter like football is smart. He

1414
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: just talks about like he's it's super into chest and

1415
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: he's got all these interests. And I think there's like

1416
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: this weird thing in the NFL that it's like sometimes

1417
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: they're afraid of people who are just like outwardly like

1418
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: really intelligent because they gave up a vibe that like

1419
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: football isn't the only thing that's ever mattered to them,

1420
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: and they think that's the only way that you could

1421
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: possibly be great at football. And I don't buy that.

1422
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: I think I think sometimes when you hear these whispers

1423
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: about like characters stuff, it's like it's that, it's given,

1424
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: it's give me, it's Josh, it's it's I think, isn't

1425
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that has his own cryptocurrency that he's

1426
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: launching and all these a lot of outside ventures. And

1427
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: I believe that for some of these teams that's seen as, oh,

1428
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: this guy is not all about the game. But be

1429
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: careful with that because it might be just somebody that

1430
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: has a lot of different interests. And you can have

1431
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: you can you can be two things, you absolutely and

1432
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: you know what, like a guy with swagger like that,

1433
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: it makes me think of Keishawn Johnson type who caught

1434
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: a lot of those vibes as well, Like this guy

1435
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: is a show bowed he's a look at me guy.

1436
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: But that dude as an example, he was all those things,

1437
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: but he was also a badass and tough as hell

1438
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: and a big time player. All right, Listen, it doesn't

1439
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: think much to sell me, um, But like that's that

1440
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: was kind of cool to see a guy that has

1441
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: that level of confidence and combine that with the skill

1442
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: set and maybe, you know, maybe it's a big time player.

1443
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: We'll see. Well. I think it fit very well in

1444
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: the Jets. That's why I mocked him there. And that's

1445
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: what's gonna have it. That is a nice, nice fit.

1446
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: I would if I was a Jets fan, I I

1447
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: would love that. And you what he also has it

1448
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: I think has gotten lost in the shuffle. Here is

1449
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: a ton of production. Like that's better. Like he has

1450
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: produced at a very high level, uh for a long time,

1451
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 1: being that guy who was literally the number one overall

1452
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: high school recruit in the country. He's had that sort

1453
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: of bulls eye and the media focus on him since

1454
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: he was like sixteen seventeen, and he's produced throughout whereas

1455
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: some some of the other guys don't have that production.

1456
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: That's why I get Hutchinson going first. I don't. I

1457
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: don't get walking And that's why this the process sometimes

1458
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: it's just like the draft industrial complex. And this has

1459
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: become such a massive industry that involves so much content

1460
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: and so many voices, and it generates huge TV ratings

1461
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: and eats up hours for everyone in terms of the

1462
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: gorillas making the pick on day three. Day three feels

1463
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: three guerrilla pick. And there's so much talk that a

1464
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: guy like Cavon Thibodeaux goes drops in the drest like

1465
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: back in February, who's like, oh, locked in loaded one

1466
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: or two. Now you see him mocked in the teens

1467
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: and it's and it's what has actually changed other than

1468
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: we're so we've talked so much that we need to

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01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: talk about something else to get to April. I think

1470
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: that factors in with some of these the draft journeys.

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: These guys take anyway cool, very cool, great too. MJD

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01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: was great, j D, I don't define. It's kind of

1473
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: similar to how when we were interviewed at the Big

1474
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: Tot the Hot Toddy and we got the all the

1475
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: pop from the crowd and m j didn't like it.

1476
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: And then the same thing, he comes on the podcast,

1477
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: the caban rolls in, he gets the show. He's not

1478
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: m j D is not gonna like that at all,

1479
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: but it's like he doesn't deserve that because he was excellent.

1480
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: Well happen he will have him again. I would assume

1481
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: should we do five minutes on m j D like,

1482
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: maybe he deserves that just to balance the scales. I

1483
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: think he was to get him on the show. Yeah,

1484
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: I think he was. I think he was happy, and

1485
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: I think if he's around, he's certainly around in this

1486
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: season and we can make the schedules. We gotta have

1487
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: him out a lot. Yeah, he's a good dude. M

1488
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: j D. Uh, you know we tease some big news.

1489
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: It is big news. It's huge. It's huge news for

1490
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: the show, and it's bitter sweet news that effective the

1491
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: end of this week, Erica Tampose will no longer be

1492
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: with our show in the same capacity She Ricky Hollywood

1493
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: and jump on rick Um is moving on to different projects.

1494
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: And uh, this is something to me is a little overdue.

1495
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: She's Erica is so talented and um good at what

1496
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: she does and creative that I'm really excited to see

1497
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: what happens next. And we got her for five years,

1498
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: which is longer than we've ever had a producer. Um

1499
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: but by about three years, right, but Ricky came to

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01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: us and wanted to try something new in her career

1501
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: where you're at Ricky, and we were obviously um bummed,

1502
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: but also totally in support of it, and uh, this

1503
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: is our last few shows together and I just want

1504
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: to say we're gonna miss you, but uh, you deserve

1505
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: this opportunity. Yeah, thank you, guys. There's been some some

1506
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: real exciting stuff that's coming up in the future that

1507
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: I'm really really looking forward to. But it is so

1508
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: you know, bitter sweet, because this is not just a career.

1509
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: We are a family and that doesn't change, Um that

1510
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: I'm that I'm no longer producing, but yeah, I've had

1511
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: a lump in my throat for the past you know,

1512
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: month and a half that we've been kind of talking

1513
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: this out, and some things have come along my my

1514
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: desk that have that have been really exciting, and I'm

1515
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: really looking forward to the future. Um, but I'm I'm

1516
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: scared too, you know, it's not not being with you

1517
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: guys is definitely something that you know, it keeps me

1518
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: up at night. What was that your first season was

1519
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: It might have been twenty seventeen. I remember like an

1520
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: early Thursday night type of Patriots recap that me, me,

1521
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: Dan and you did, and I just I just remember

1522
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: whatever sort of bit that we talked about in terms

1523
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: of like we went hard in on that we were

1524
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: both Patriots fans, and Ricky came in so hard, so strong,

1525
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: and I was just like this, this is unlike any

1526
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: producer we've had. Uh, and I love it, and uh

1527
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: it's been a great ride. I don't know, it's there's

1528
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: you don't replace Rockie Hollywood and Justin Graver is going

1529
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: to come in and and take over for Erica behind

1530
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: the Glass and we're excited about that. UM. But there

1531
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: is a part of the show. You know, so much

1532
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: has changed at NFL UM in the last eighteen months

1533
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: or so, kind of starting to me with losing Chris

1534
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: and UM, then Covid hits and shuts down the world,

1535
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: and we've seen so many people um leaving the company. Uh.

1536
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: We just learned recently that Henry will be um staying

1537
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: with the NFL but moving back to his native England,

1538
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: which is we're very happy for him as well, but

1539
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: also again bitter sweet because he's our friend. UM. And

1540
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: so this is just the latest thing Mark where the

1541
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: show is always changing and evolving, and now we have

1542
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: to evolve without the great Ricky Hallett. Well, we've had

1543
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,440
Speaker 1: a I think we've probably had like fourteen different producers

1544
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: and I certainly have my power rankings, and the top

1545
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 1: three or four or five have done have made huge

1546
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: impacts on the show. But there's no equal to Erica's impact. Um,

1547
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I thought she came in a good way,

1548
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: with incredible effort and creative you right out of the

1549
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: gate and you're like, this is a different type of person.

1550
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: And when Erica has an idea and I can think

1551
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: of so many um, you know, we're tasks with so

1552
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: many shows that were done on video and we have

1553
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: to open with these skits and stuff. And that was

1554
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: where Erica started to find I think her creativity, her voice. Um,

1555
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 1: she isn't afraid to drop a bomb on us verbally,

1556
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: which is needed occasionally. And I can't imagine what's next

1557
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: week on Greg. I mean I've taken some fire um

1558
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: on this show from her, whether it be her you know,

1559
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: verbally or with the soundbites. I will miss that. There

1560
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: is no replacing Erica. Um, but she wherever she goes

1561
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: and what ever she does, I know you're gonna do great.

1562
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: And we're missing we're losing a family member, but family

1563
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 1: members you know in our hearts, so not going anywhere.

1564
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: We still got two two big shows, uh, or three

1565
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: big show. We've got the mock, We've got the two

1566
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: draft shows, and uh, you know the big finale when

1567
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: we are also announcing that Erica is gonna announce the

1568
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: Mr R revel have been picked up the way. Actually

1569
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: we'll be well unfortunately Saturday, be'all in our own houses

1570
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: and Erica. We also have our dinner with you and

1571
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: Dana myself will greag and goes and dines with his

1572
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: other friends. Really looking forward to that, guys. No, seriously,

1573
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: I want I mean, I'll be here this week as well,

1574
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: and I want to thank all the listeners. It has been,

1575
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, the greatest um time of my life in

1576
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: my career, and I've had so much support and so

1577
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 1: many followers that have joined along and have helped shared

1578
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: my videos and become broadcasting. I mean, like you guys specifically,

1579
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: what you have done the listeners and then you you

1580
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: four guys, what do you guys have done for my

1581
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: career and being able for me to kind of step

1582
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: out and and do stuff that really really makes me happy.

1583
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: Like I would not be here without all of you.

1584
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: We love you, Ricky, and you know, like you were saying,

1585
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 1: we've been talking about this at different times over the

1586
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: last few months. And you just had a milestone birthday

1587
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: and right when I turned thirty, like that was a

1588
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: light went on for me, like there was time to

1589
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 1: try something new and and that's where you're at. I

1590
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: think it's all it's all exciting, and we're very happy

1591
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: for you because we know whatever happens next is going

1592
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: to be successful and we'll get to say that was

1593
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: our producer. Light went on for me about thirty six,

1594
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: so just it may not happen right again, happen later.

1595
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: Same same with Chris. I think a little later in

1596
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: his life. I wish he was here and we always

1597
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: wish you you got a headstart on you bums. He

1598
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: uh he he would have the like the right thing

1599
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: to say to you. He I do not like he

1600
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: would have the perfect thing to say, but I think

1601
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: that resonate would resonate with him really strongly about in

1602
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: what you're doing, find what you really love, what's really

1603
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna get you excited. Uh, not just in your personal life,

1604
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: which obviously is great, but in your career because like

1605
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: there's no time to waste doing that. So he would

1606
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: be so happy about that and would say say it

1607
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: beautifully think about him a lot of course throughout this too.

1608
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: I love you Ricky. Alright, but we got some shows

1609
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: left together, so let's make them count. Uh. Coming up

1610
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow the Mark Sessler mock Draft, Oh my goodness. Also

1611
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: the return of a very special guest. I'll leave it

1612
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: at that, and then we are off to Vegas. So

1613
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: big week for the show, last week with Ricky. We're

1614
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: gonna make it count until Wednesday. Thank you by the

1615
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: way to m j D. Thank you to Cavon Thibodeau.

1616
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: What that was still crazy? Thank you to Ricky for

1617
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: five amazing years. It's all what's that He's a call

1618
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: m