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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. We've been working on a seventy three

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Speaker 1: Volkswagen thing. That's what they call it. It's a thing, right,

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Speaker 1: Everybody comes in and go, what is that? It's a thing?

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Speaker 1: What that's a thing? It's sort of like a who's

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Speaker 1: on first moment? Right? You know who's on first? You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know third base. I don't even miracle where

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Speaker 1: from he sex the thing, sex the thing. The car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: it's at a line because what's happened is and I've

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Speaker 1: seen this on toyotas over the years, and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter the model where the pivot pin either either paint

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Speaker 1: got in there during assembly, and I think it's paint.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 2: This is where car owners the world overturned to for

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Speaker 2: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving

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Speaker 2: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your balls at eight five five five sixty nine hundred.

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Speaker 3: And now pe.

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Speaker 2: Running.

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Speaker 1: We uh got tom and the openings are getting better

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Speaker 1: every week. Twenty nineteen four, Transit came into the shop

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Speaker 1: this week, and I want to tell you this story

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Speaker 1: real quick before we go to the busy phones, because

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Speaker 1: it sort of exemplifies what I'm always talking about about

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Speaker 1: critters and cars. So local plumber have been a customer

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Speaker 1: a long time. Matter of fact, I went to high

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Speaker 1: school with Jeff, That's how long I know him, and

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Speaker 1: he ended up one of his work vans. Was it

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Speaker 1: was fine on Tuesday, and on Wednesday it wouldn't start,

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Speaker 1: and you know, there was park it, so they were

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Speaker 1: you know, they finally got at the start and it

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Speaker 1: kind of weezed its way down to the shop and

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Speaker 1: we you know, inserted it into the schedule. Just because

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Speaker 1: plumbers tools, they kind of need their you know, so

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Speaker 1: they get a priority. We try and work around the

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Speaker 1: schedule and just move things around a little bit where

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Speaker 1: we can. And I discovered after a diagnosis that and

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Speaker 1: it kind of took me a minute. The cylinder had

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Speaker 1: temp sensor circuit was inoperable. It had multiple trouble codes.

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Speaker 1: It showed trouble codes for all sorts of things. Cylinder

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Speaker 1: had temp sensor, oil pressure, oil pressure switch, and a

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Speaker 1: few others. It was probably a half a dozen or

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Speaker 1: more fault codes, and it also had this weird it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't crank. Every time you would turn the key all

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Speaker 1: the way forward to the crank position, and more often

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Speaker 1: than not, nothing happened. It just wouldn't turn over. And

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Speaker 1: then every once in a while you'd catch it just right,

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Speaker 1: it would seem and it would crank, but it would

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Speaker 1: real long time, hard time starting. It was just kind

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Speaker 1: through my data and I started to look, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's what's that of kilter? And you've got to go

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Speaker 1: through this right, but you've also got to know what

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Speaker 1: you're looking at in the sense that I knew it

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Speaker 1: was something. You know, was it oil pressure related, cylinder

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Speaker 1: Because all three it had codes for all three. And

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Speaker 1: what I started to look at was individual data for

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Speaker 1: those circuits. And what caught my eye was the cylinder

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Speaker 1: head temp. And I should explain this. Four does not

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Speaker 1: use a coolant temp sensor. They use a cylinder head

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Speaker 1: temp sensor and they use that to calculate coolant and

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Speaker 1: how hot or cold the engine is and so on.

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Speaker 1: So cylinder head temp sensor reading said, it was one

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Speaker 1: zero and the voltage and this is why it's important

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Speaker 1: it could be zero at that point, and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense if you look up the graph, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four degrees should be about two vaults

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Speaker 1: coming out of that sensor. Because it's a it's like

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Speaker 1: most coolant sensors, it's a negative coefficient, meaning it's it.

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Speaker 1: It starts to work and reverse of what a normal

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Speaker 1: sensor is from zero to five, it goes five to zero.

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Speaker 1: It's one way or the other, but it's still it's

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Speaker 1: It was under the intake manifold. I was able to

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Speaker 1: could see the critter, well, I could see what was

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Speaker 1: Jeff's lower intake manifold and camp out there for a while.

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Speaker 1: And subsequently it chewed up the wiring harness leading up

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Speaker 1: to the cylinder head temp sensor. So at that point

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Speaker 1: it became pretty straightforward, right remove the intake, repair the harness.

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Speaker 1: But I had to find the harness connector. That was

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Speaker 1: a problem. And fortunately I went out to AutoZone pro

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Speaker 1: dot com. All right, and I'm going to take you

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Speaker 1: in the shop here with AutoZone and tell you exactly

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Speaker 1: what goes on, because the problem with connectors is there's

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Speaker 1: look them up. It's hard to look them up by application. Well,

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Speaker 1: sometimes AutoZone does it nice. AutoZone pro dot com does

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Speaker 1: it nice? All I did was I went in. I

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Speaker 1: went to twenty nineteen FOURD transit connect typed in seat,

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Speaker 1: to I believe it was a WPT nine eighty four

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Speaker 1: from Motocraft. They showed me the picture. I said, yep,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Clicked down a boom. They got it deliver

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Speaker 1: AutoZone pro dot com. You know it's nice in a

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Speaker 1: complicated repair when something goes so simple. Got the harness

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Speaker 1: repair from AutoZone. They we put it in, soldered it

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Speaker 1: all together, put the intake go all back together. And

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Speaker 1: This vehicle is completely confused because it's still in failure mode.

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Speaker 1: So I had to go through. Obviously I had cleared codes,

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Speaker 1: but I did a CAM reset. CAM on a Ford

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Speaker 1: is KAM keep Alive memory and it resets the engine controllers,

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Speaker 1: software data regarding fuel trims, transmission, shift points, engine operation.

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Speaker 1: It basically tells it to start over. It's a reset.

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Speaker 1: And as soon as I did the CAM reset, then

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Speaker 1: it started it weazed its way to life. I actually

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Speaker 1: They were sol fuel filed. It wouldn't even fire. I

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Speaker 1: You get to see the plug shoot flames out of

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Speaker 1: it because it's gasoline. It's I don't recommend you try

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Speaker 1: this at home in the living room, but it's sort

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Speaker 1: of a fun thing to do it. Let's your little

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Speaker 1: put it together, reset cam and it started right up.

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Speaker 1: And I tell you this because sometimes not every repair

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Speaker 1: mechanical failure. In this case, it was an animal that

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Speaker 1: then sprayed some mouse out from the folks over at

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire Oil undercoating and I've started to do that

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Speaker 1: as preventative now using their mouse out oil treatment. You know,

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Speaker 1: in situations like this, I think every vehicle with a

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Speaker 1: this because it's a problem. There's a lot of wiring

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Speaker 1: the rodent, the chipmunk, whatever it was, didn't get to it.

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Speaker 1: There was also a knock sense or wiring down there,

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Speaker 1: so it becomes a critical area. So protecting it with

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Speaker 1: mouse out isn't the worst idea in the world. And

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Speaker 1: you know it'll it'll keep them from returning. And we

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Speaker 1: the fact that it was also due for state inspection

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Speaker 1: and as a result of doing the keep alive memory reset,

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Speaker 1: it takes it's I'm still running monitors on it. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to finish it on Monday because I had to

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Speaker 1: get the fuel system monitored to run and now I

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Speaker 1: can get the rest of them to go. So everything

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Speaker 1: one from in the base guys in the shop. Courtesy

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Speaker 1: of autozonepro dot com. Let's move over to the phones.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to go to a phone call?

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Speaker 4: First?

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get when started, and then we'll come back

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Speaker 1: to it Ron and Florida with some questions about third

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Speaker 1: party car warranties. Ron, Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 1: How can I help?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you for taking on car. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: My question is the cair warranties.

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Speaker 3: You being a shop owner, do you run across problems

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Speaker 3: with third party shop.

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Speaker 4: The warranties and at how about the ones the.

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Speaker 3: Factory extended warranties? Do you recommend people to get either one?

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Speaker 1: I like the factory extended warranties. Let me answer the

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Speaker 1: second part first. I like the factory extended warranties. I

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Speaker 1: like to buy. When I buy a vehicle, when I've

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Speaker 1: bought a vehicle in the last ten years, whether it's Alexis,

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Speaker 1: a Chevy Afford, whatever, I always buy the manufacturer's extended

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Speaker 1: warranty up to two hundred thousand miles. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why. It's not that I can't fix it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where I'm gonna be, all right. I could

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Speaker 1: be traveling on the road. I could be six hours

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Speaker 5: I could.

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Speaker 1: You know, the vehicle could have eighty thousand miles on it.

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Speaker 1: It could be a family member that's borrowed the car

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Speaker 1: and it breaks down somewhere, and I've got to know

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Speaker 1: that at least if they get to a dealer, I've

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Speaker 1: got a chance of getting it fixed and getting it

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Speaker 1: repaired right. And not so much the cost. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the cost comes into mind, but some of the electronics

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Speaker 1: are always in the back of my mind. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can have an electronic component failure, a mod that's

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Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen hundred dollars is not impossible today, and

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Speaker 1: then there's the labor to put it in. And I

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Speaker 1: always make sure my extended warranties have that coverage I want,

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Speaker 1: you know, usually it's a rider they attach, or sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's a secondary rider. They'll call it electronics coverage, and

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Speaker 1: I want that. And I try to keep cars covered

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Speaker 1: somewhere between eight and ten years up to eighty to

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand miles. Something major happens after that one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five one hundred and fifty thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have second thoughts. And lately what I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing is the lack of parts that probably won't be

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Speaker 1: there in eleven or twelve years to fix that car

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Speaker 1: is going to make me want to replace it. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I like manufacturers warranties, after market warranties not so fond

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much for information that's been very helpful.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. I hope I was going to

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Speaker 6: How can I help hike cav out?

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Speaker 1: Uh, the rings are not the right size from the factory,

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Speaker 1: Now right, well, now, all right, you know it's did

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Speaker 1: Because there's a you know, there's a there's a warranty

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Speaker 4: Doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'll return right after this. Fulcome back running in the

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey, Ron, Yes,

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Speaker 5: Which I have a I was gonna do the breaks

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Speaker 5: The caliber pistons in. They are frozen tight. I can't

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Speaker 1: Real rear breaks, Tom, rear breaks. Yes, but this has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a.

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Speaker 5: They will not budge. And you don't turn them clockwise.

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Speaker 1: I'm correct, you don't turn those. I don't turn those,

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Speaker 1: tom I used. I use a scan tool to put

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Speaker 1: No, this there should be If you've got to launch

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Speaker 1: If this is an electric, If this is an electric

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Speaker 1: The the procedure is you're going to put that vehicle

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 1: Don't I'm not picking on you. I love you to death.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm pulling, Yeah, because I'm I don't listen.

433
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 5: That's why I'm calling. Yeah, I'm saying I'm doing Am

434
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 5: I doing something wrong?

435
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: I think you are? You know, unless you you know,

436
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: anything's possible, but to fail both of them. Now, if

437
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: you told me the caliber doesn't move on its slide,

438
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: that the slide itself is sticky stuck, Yeah, okay, I

439
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: could dig that. I you know, I live in the

440
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: Northeast too. I know what salt does. Uh, you know

441
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: that I could believe. But that pistons, that piston self retracts,

442
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: that is a that is a that has to go

443
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: into what they call self service mode. And you do

444
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: that via a scan tool. And we use our Launch

445
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: all the time in the shop. You know, we've got

446
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: a couple of different scan tools set up to do

447
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: different things because we're you know, so busy during the

448
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: day and we actually use that feature on the Launch

449
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: all the time. It works really well, so I know

450
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: it worked.

451
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 5: No, I mean I heard it. I heard it retract

452
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 5: my Well, my issue is what what brought me to

453
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 5: that was the when I put the new pads in

454
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: the there wasn't enough room to put the caliber on, right.

455
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 5: That's what led me to think. And that that and

456
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 5: the fact that I watched if you don't mind me

457
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 5: mentioned I'm mister suber on On on YouTube and he

458
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 5: was doing a sub and he did the same thing.

459
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 5: He used his scan tool when it just break service mode,

460
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 5: and then he said, you got to turn the piston in.

461
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 5: So when my caliber wouldn't fit over the new pads,

462
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 5: I says, okay, let me try to turn the piston in.

463
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: I've never seen. I've never I've never seen that. I've

464
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: seen the piston just pull itself back in. All right, now,

465
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: maybe they've changed it, but at least if you follow

466
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: procedure and you put it in service mode and can

467
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: you compress piston at that point, it should still go.

468
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: That would be odd. That would be odd that you

469
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: had two failures like that when you activated using the

470
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: scan tool. Do you hear it run. Do you hear

471
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: the do you hear the hump from the little motor?

472
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 5: Yes? Absolutely?

473
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 6: And I actually did it twice, and the one I

474
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 6: actually did it twice, I actually put everything back together

475
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 6: again with the old pads because they's fit, and I

476
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 6: redid I ndid it, and then I redid it.

477
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 5: And I heard that I heard the motor on and

478
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 5: off and on and off both times. No issue at all.

479
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: Interesting.

480
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 5: I cannot get I couldn't get I couldn't get the

481
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 5: the new pads. I couldn't get the caliber to fiddlever

482
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 5: the new pads. So that's what made me think, Okay,

483
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 5: I got to turn this in. But they are like

484
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 5: like a rock and if they are bottomed out, and

485
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 5: I agree with you and feel like they bottomed out right.

486
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: And they have to and they have to move, but

487
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: they they obviously.

488
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 5: Hurt them counterclock I don't know if this means anything

489
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 5: to you, but I could turn them counterclockwise easily. They're

490
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 5: almost with my fingers. Do they do they?

491
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: Do they turn in? I'm sorry, do they turn in?

492
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 5: No? I, as far as I know, I thought maybe

493
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 5: I was doing something wrong at that point too, because

494
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 5: I think that every everything I everything I research says

495
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 5: you got to turn them clockwise.

496
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: No, it's to my knowledge, it's you know, make sure

497
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: the parking break is off. Obviously, take a scan tool,

498
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: put it in what Subaru calls break maintenance mode. Uh,

499
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: you know they want you to unplug it at that

500
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: point electrically and just take the back wheels off or

501
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: move the pads, disconnect the connectors, take the caliber off,

502
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: and the pistons should be withdrawn.

503
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you. Let me ask you this is

504
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: it possible that the piston is overextended?

505
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Now, how warn are the pads?

506
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 5: Oh, they're they're they're like one mill two mil. I

507
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 5: don't even know how they got to That's that's what

508
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 5: they did.

509
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: Now we're now we're having a different conversation. Yes, that's

510
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: completely possible that I could buy if the if the

511
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: pads are ground into dust where it was metal on

512
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: metal or close to metal.

513
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: But there's there's not a lot of friction material left. Yeah,

514
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 5: the roads aren't even scratched.

515
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: Okay, then the roads.

516
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 5: Aren't even scratched.

517
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I can tell you this when you go

518
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: finding when you go to find replacement calipers, get ready,

519
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: bring the check book, not cheap.

520
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 5: Oh, I know the only place. The only place is Super.

521
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: Nobody even listened, right, nobody has them. I've never found

522
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: I've never found them anywhere. And if I remember right,

523
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: I had to replace one once because the motor actually died.

524
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: But it was it was an older suberreu with uh

525
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: double the mileage of what you're talking And I want

526
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: to say it was four or five hundred bucks for

527
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: one caliber, if I remember correctly. Have you have you

528
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: tried let me ask you this, is there an electric

529
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: motor the back of that caliber, on the back of

530
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: the casting?

531
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 5: Yes?

532
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Have you tried on bolting that motor?

533
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: I didn't go that far. I didn't. I didn't want

534
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 5: to go any further than than where I went with it.

535
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: I've never had to. But if your back's against the

536
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: wall and you're ready to go out and buy a

537
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: new caliber, at that point, brother, you got nothing to lose.

538
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 5: Well, the new calibers don't come with the actuators, right, Oh,

539
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: maybe you can get them with them without.

540
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: No, you can buy them.

541
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 5: In the Super online. It's that they're separate.

542
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 6: Right, they are actuator.

543
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: Right, they are separate, well, the caliber, right, they are separate.

544
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: That's obviously you can't. I can disconnect it.

545
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: Yes, oh absolutely right, that's not Yeah, that's not my point.

546
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you want to try something different,

547
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: just take the actuator off and you know, does the

548
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: piston come back?

549
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 5: Then? Okay, So what I'm gonna do is I'm going

550
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 5: to reach Maybe I was too hasty trying to put

551
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 5: the caliber back on. I'll try doing that again with

552
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 5: the new pads. So let's say I'm faced with I

553
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: gotta go to subru I have to buy new calipers.

554
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: So the process is just on bolt the actually unplugged,

555
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: the actual way to unbolt it correct, put it right

556
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: on top of the new caliper.

557
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: Try this? Did yes? Try this?

558
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 5: Did you?

559
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Did you put this back together?

560
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 8: Yet?

561
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: I put it back together with the with the old pads,

562
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 5: just in case you has to run down to the

563
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 5: store real fast. Right.

564
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: Does the parking break work?

565
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 5: Oh?

566
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: So it still works?

567
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 5: Works? Fine?

568
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 8: No?

569
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: Have you have you tried it since you reassembled it? Okay,

570
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: then you just proved that you didn't hurt or anything. You're

571
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: doing something wrong.

572
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 5: Right the park Maybe it was too early this morning.

573
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: You know, if the parking, if the parking break still works.

574
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: You're missing a step in the process, all right, kiddo,

575
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: I gotta go try that.

576
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 8: But you know.

577
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: You've proved it works. Now you got to figure out

578
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: what you're missing. You're missing a step here, all right.

579
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm here to call me if you need more, Yes, sir,

580
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero,

581
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: running any of the car doctor back right after this.

582
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 5: I don't know you want.

583
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back, running the card doctor. Let's go over

584
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: to Tony in Waldrick, New Jersey. Look at this seventeen

585
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: and sixteen Honda Cord. He's got questions about trans service. Yes, Tony, Hey, no, Ron,

586
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: good sir.

587
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 7: A number of weeks ago you described on the same

588
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 7: type of car doing a drain and fill on the

589
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 7: CV transmission. And of course I go into the local

590
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 7: dealerships here for oil changes and they hit me with

591
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 7: you need transmission service, which I agree, but I had

592
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 7: done my research on it, and I wonder if you

593
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 7: did the same there's I asked them if they also

594
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 7: their service also includes a transmission filter on the CV transmission,

595
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 7: and they said it's a closed unit and there's no filter.

596
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: But there's a filter, right, there's an external there's an

597
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: external filter in one of the lines.

598
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's under the battery pan, right, so you got

599
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 7: to take the battery out, and it's a little bit

600
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 7: of an ordeal. Did you do the same when you

601
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 7: service it? Or because they say they don't do that,

602
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 7: they just do a drain and film.

603
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we don't. As a matter of fact, I

604
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: just I think I answered this from somebody else. It's funny, right,

605
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: this must be CVT day. We were talking about this

606
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: a little bit ago. No now, but keep in mind,

607
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: CBT trans service is in its infancy. The industry hasn't

608
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: decided whether or not to change that filter. You know

609
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: how many miles are on these cars.

610
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 7: They're both forty five thousand.

611
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're low mileage. And that's and that's just it.

612
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: The industry only just started within the last I'm gonna

613
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: say two years to talk about changing fluid on CVTs.

614
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: The line of thinking was, and for the longest time,

615
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: I can go back to twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, don't

616
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: change the fluid. It's lifetime. And it took it probably

617
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: took the better part of ten years to get the

618
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: evolution down to the point where okay, now it's okay

619
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: to check. Now it's okay to change the fluid. And

620
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you know the email that I got and now your

621
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: call has got me thinking, do we change that filter?

622
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if we changed that filter at forty

623
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: five thousand miles. I will tell you this, the majority

624
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: of vehicles that we change fluid on back in the

625
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: day with filters, when things were normal where you could

626
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: take a pan down and get to the filter, you

627
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: were changing filters at fifty sixty thousand miles. I never

628
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: saw anything in there. It was always clean. It always

629
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: made me wonder, why am I changing a filter? But

630
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: that's what the industry said, Pan and filter, Pan and filter.

631
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think as CVTs get older and there's

632
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: more mileage on them. But what I've thought about in

633
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, as these questions have been

634
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: coming in, is I think the CVET is a little

635
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: bit more of a fragile transmission. And my feeling is,

636
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you have to change the filter to

637
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: remove particulate, it's probably too late because where the particulate

638
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: come from is something is something coming apart and changing

639
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: the filter won't fix that. And I think that's where

640
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: the industry is probably going to decide and settle. But listen,

641
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: just change the fluid. It's the best thing. It's the

642
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: best thing you can do for longevity right now, is

643
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: the bottom line?

644
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 7: Okay? Then the other question I had. The other question

645
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 7: I had for them was, there's a film plug. Do

646
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 7: you take that film plug out and to make sure

647
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 7: you got the right measurement in?

648
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only way you can really do it.

649
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you can cheat, and you know, I guess

650
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: if I guess, if you're the dealer and you know

651
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: that you've taken three and a half quarts out, you

652
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: always put three and a half quts in or whatever

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00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: the magic number is. But my whole problem with doing

654
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: that is if it's a drain and fill and the

655
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: trans is low in the first place, and you took

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: three quarts out, how do you know what the real

657
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: number is until you put it back in. Repetition does

658
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: have its shortcuts, Tony. I just don't like to do.

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00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: It that way.

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00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather till I was really confident about whatever unit

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00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm working on, whether it's a Honda, a Ford, or

662
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: a Chevy or whatever. You know, we could we can

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: actually take fluid out of oh, you know, four transmissions

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00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: and count the number of quarts. We'll still go through

665
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: the process of the overfill and the heat up method

666
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: every time, just because we don't know what, you know,

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00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: how low the fluid was, because there's no dipstick on

668
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: most of the transmissions today. So anyway, I appreciate the question, Tony,

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00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: thank you, and I'm running any and the car doctor.

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00:32:46,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: I will be back right after this clok aback running

671
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: the cardocle. Let's take one more chuck from Florida.

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00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 8: Chuck.

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00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Welcome aboard, sir. How can I help?

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00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: I was just calling in response to the follow us

675
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: a water pump problem.

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00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: For the gentleman from Connecticut with the auxiliary water pump.

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is sort of not just specifically for that,

678
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: but I had done a lot of cooling work with

679
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: Sunbeam Tigers and that turned out to be more of.

680
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: An air float flow problem. He's talking about water pump.

681
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: One of the things that we had done. We did

682
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: lots of things secure the problem, but one thing was

683
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: to have an auxiliary fan and we put a thermostatically

684
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: controlled switch on it. On an electric fan. It was

685
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: a pusher fan, but we just put a sensor on

686
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: the of the radiator. Imagine you could do it on

687
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: the intake or one of the other lines in the car,

688
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: but we had put it on the radiator itself, and

689
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 3: if after the car was shut off in the case

690
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: that it would start to heat up, that fan would

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00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: come on automatically. We put the We wired it to

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00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: the hot side of the fuse block fuse block and anyhow,

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00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 3: I can't say that we ever had to use that,

694
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: but it's a simple solution. And just like that has

695
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: booked to an electric fan. That switch, that thermostatically controlled

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00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: switch is in the aftermarket product as well that you

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00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: can just get. I think its advanced off over something

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00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think I think there's

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00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: a simpler solution than what he's going through. I I

701
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: get your idea. I wonder where you would fit it,

702
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: if it would fit under the hood of a modern

703
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: day car. I understand, you know, coming from some tigers that, yeah,

704
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: there's probably more room there. My original thought though, is,

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00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: like I said, I would see if there's a circulating

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00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: pump of some kind that you could wire in and

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00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: you know, circulate the coolant that way to help cool

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00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: it off and not have the problem, so I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the thoughts. Chuck, appreciate the call in until the next

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: time I'm on an ady and the car doctor reminding

711
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 5: See you