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Speaker 1: Means money. Honey, say take about the time. We are

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Speaker 1: the authorities on all things.

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Speaker 2: What is the church? And wow?

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Speaker 3: He thanks have to after.

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Speaker 4: Couns the world. I know it will yeah you.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I to.

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Speaker 5: Well get into your bosom son.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you gotta be from that place to get

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Speaker 6: that bosom work done.

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Speaker 5: That's the only way, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: My name is take and this come on, come on,

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Speaker 6: the only money excity authority.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, all things.

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Speaker 2: R and B.

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Speaker 5: We got a man. Tell me from in the building there,

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Speaker 5: from a place.

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Speaker 6: Where everybody listens, from the street to the church.

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Speaker 5: Tell him why, from the outhouse to the back house.

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Speaker 5: He's saving them one.

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Speaker 2: At a time. Yes he is.

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Speaker 7: We like to call it lookal music from where we're from.

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Speaker 6: Salvation is available for you today because of the man,

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Speaker 6: the mis, the legend, and the building.

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Speaker 5: Make some noise.

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Speaker 6: I want you to stand right now, wherever you are,

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Speaker 6: wherever you are, begin to shout, begin to praise some

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Speaker 6: for the Man of God.

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Speaker 5: Hamilton. I think I need that for my life. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you out did me.

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Speaker 6: Hey there's some brother, as a as a fan, as

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Speaker 5: Bro. You you really liked that, brother, Thank you, man,

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I love it.

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Speaker 6: We've done many a show, oh absolutely, absolutely, many, many

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Speaker 6: a rundown we've done together, and you just do what

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Speaker 6: you do, period. And there is one Anthony Hamilton and

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Speaker 6: he goes to a listen I remember doing. I remember

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Speaker 6: doing seven hundred to one thousand venues. And then I

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Speaker 6: come see you in three thousand and four thousand. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: is he doing that? And then you kick into a

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Speaker 6: gear where it gets soul stirring mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: That's what there is. Yeah. I mean when you love it, man,

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Speaker 5: it starts to take shape of his own.

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Speaker 6: But when you start piercing this thing, yeah, right, when

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Speaker 6: you when you can within what we do create a

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Speaker 6: spiritual experience mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: The gravity of the gravity of that, the pull on that,

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Speaker 6: it's different, brother, Yeah, it's different. Like when you're talking earlier,

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Speaker 6: were talking about you and Tasa on that road together. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's different. Yeah, Like that's like that's the original form

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Speaker 6: of the art because we had nothing else left. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but our spirit that we were praying to keep intact,

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Speaker 6: and the music that we were creating was the soundtrack

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Speaker 6: to that. It's fighting to stay alive with everything that

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Speaker 6: you represent, is that like and that right there? Brother, absolutely, man,

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Got a lot of whoopings to get that.

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Speaker 5: Come on, now, come on now.

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Speaker 6: It took a lot of who You're gonna be a

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Speaker 5: You know, man, I.

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Speaker 6: Remember I'm arousing church and I was in the junior choir,

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Speaker 6: and you know, you couldn't you couldn't have Okay, we

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Speaker 6: in the morning, you have Sunday School, so that's where

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Speaker 6: you can go get your snacks, you know what I'm saying, cookies,

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Speaker 5: All of that, All that.

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Speaker 6: Happened in the basement of the church, or the adults

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Speaker 6: when the choir, the preacher, the whole thing. You got

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Speaker 6: sure me and Anthony are from the same kind of

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Speaker 5: Know, lemon heads Boston Big ban all let yeah, g babes,

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Speaker 6: It rolled out, hits the floor and rolls down. You

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Speaker 5: It's like those movies movies when it's like oh God,

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Speaker 6: A monster is getting ready to come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, nigga.

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Speaker 6: My grandmama came from behind me. I don't even know

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Speaker 5: And ran me out of there. Yeah, and gave me

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Speaker 5: It could have been a paper wrapper with nothing in it,

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Speaker 5: get it like Grandma was not because at this moment

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Speaker 5: you were representing talk about the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: So you're embarrassing the family, and now you embarrassing her

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Speaker 5: feel like her house in and order. Oh you're about

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Speaker 5: wear You might wear it again at home, easy. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: From somebody else though, absolutely, granddaddy, your aunt, your mama. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: heard her real clear. Yeah, yeah, you know you sleep

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Speaker 5: you take care of yourself for anybody else care Elder Hamilton.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, take me back man, mm hm, take me back

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Speaker 6: to the beginning.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: When when when somebody at the service said, and little

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Speaker 6: boy right there, he got it on him. You know what?

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Speaker 5: Back then, I wasn't trying to lead. I wasn't in

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Speaker 5: They could hear something. They always wanted me to lead,

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Speaker 5: like getting older. Yeah, like when was your first lead?

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Speaker 5: My first lead was about eight nine, But I wasn't

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Speaker 6: But you had something though, just for him to even

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Speaker 6: give you the lead. Yeah, yeah, but I didn't recommend

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Speaker 5: I loved it, but not enough to be leading for

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Speaker 6: What was your first solo?

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Speaker 5: Was that? Well, I'm going dude down to well going

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Speaker 5: to the river? That that that was one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Anybody asked you around going where around going.

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Speaker 4: Go?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Man?

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Speaker 8: Story I have requested in my family, Uh, because I

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Speaker 5: Sure you pak priority. Tell I know you've been, I

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Speaker 5: know you got off you town. Yeah yeah, And I've

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Speaker 8: So I have a request in my family that whoever

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Speaker 8: if I had at one more time, who going up

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Speaker 2: Ain't going up?

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Speaker 5: Man? If I sing, listen.

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Speaker 6: You are out of my wheel, putting that there now

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Speaker 5: Up for yonder at my service. You know, there's a

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Speaker 8: They don't always sing it like you, brother, they don't.

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Speaker 8: You know, it'd it's tricky sometime in there, and they'd

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Speaker 6: You know, no, no, take your time time. When when

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Speaker 6: He's like ninth grade, right, yeah, yeah, it was like

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Speaker 5: Maybe eighth grade, seventh, eighth grade started forming these little

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Speaker 5: what I couldn't do. I would practice, you know, listening

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Speaker 5: And they started forming that. Then they started getting the

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, you know when grandmother was around, all gospel

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Speaker 5: You talk about, gentleman, I'm glad you're seeing you know,

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Speaker 5: No. I was a big fan of James Cleveland, Andre Crouch,

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Speaker 5: This was back in ninety ninety ninety one. So I

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Speaker 5: songs we did. Yeah, yeah, change the locks. But you

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Speaker 5: what was his name? But anyway, we'll get back to

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00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 5: his name and made lasagna. I learned how to make

434
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 5: lasagna and all these things. So we had a showcase

435
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 5: at D and D Studios and that's when Andre Herrel

436
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: brought Russell Simmons. There was a lot of other big names.

437
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 5: Now I was thinking I saw Biggie in that of

438
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 5: puff back in the day. I'm just those are the

439
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 5: things that I remember because it was a big deal.

440
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 5: It was about five of us singer and yeah. After

441
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 5: I was sang Andre was he outbitted everybody really yeah,

442
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 5: and brought me to a uptown So I opened up

443
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 5: for Jobessy on the freaking your tour You by Yourself Run.

444
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I had done done an album it's called

445
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: Ecstasy with track masters Tony Poe. I have to hear this,

446
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: so yeah yeah, yeah, so I want to hear that

447
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 5: was my first album. I want to hear you sing Ecstasy.

448
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 5: I want to hear that. Yeah, it's a the whole album.

449
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so there.

450
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 6: What was your vibe at that time? Though?

451
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: I had a real sharp shape up. It was real

452
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 5: clean cut, you know, real clean. I had some silk shirts. Yeah. Yeah,

453
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 5: it was uptown down. So, yeah, you was in your

454
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: New York R and B back Sybil was the stylist

455
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: back then. Sybil, and you know a lot of great

456
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: talent and influence at Uptown.

457
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 6: With it being your first album, and you know andreral

458
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: Herald being who he is and yeah, and all these people,

459
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 6: all these cheeraders around.

460
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: You, Puff was still there.

461
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 6: Do you feel like your first album was you or

462
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 6: kind of a mix of what they wanted and saw

463
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 6: you as I think it was.

464
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it was a bit of both, because

465
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 5: when I came into it, I kind of knew what

466
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: I thought I knew and I sold it to her,

467
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 5: and so they wanted to take it and polish it up,

468
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 5: give me a haircut because I was growing locks at

469
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 5: the time. I had little little twigs. He weing locks

470
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 5: in ninety yeah, ninety ninety one, ninety one. Yeah, different, small,

471
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 5: very small. And I overheard Andre and I think it

472
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: was Andrew and Russell talking like we may have to

473
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: cut his hair. Oh. I heard that, And I wouldn't

474
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 5: cut my hair on my own. Oh, I'm getting this

475
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 5: record there, I'm not going home. I'm not going home.

476
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 5: I'm getting this record. Deal is that I'm not that

477
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: connected to these licks, right, Yeah? And so you know

478
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 5: I showed up at the studio with the office with

479
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: my haircut. It wasn't shaped up. I wasn't going that

480
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 5: far yet. Yeah yeah, but I was ready. And you're

481
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: opening for Josey? Yeah, yeah, opening? And are you going

482
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: as Anthony Hamason? Absolutely? I've been him all my life. Okay,

483
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: you never had no, I've always been called Casey.

484
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 8: For a minute, I got well, no, I was Anthony,

485
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 8: Yeah I was.

486
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: I was in But I've always been Anthony, called Anthony Hamilton.

487
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: My full name. It was Anthony Pope, Anthony Hamilton and

488
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: uh one or other Anthony, but me and Anthony Pope

489
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 5: were really popular, so we call us our full name.

490
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I took Anthony Hamilton. I took him

491
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: in that studio and I started working on that album

492
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: and I was like, I gotta do it. I was

493
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: in my writing bag at the time. I had Terry

494
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: Robinson from The Girls doing backgrounds and the Girls, Wow, yeah,

495
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: she's doing backgrounds and actually we end up dating. We

496
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 5: have a son together. That's twenty eight now. Wow. Uh

497
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 5: And so that was a really interesting time. Yeah. But

498
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: to be on tour with Josey, I'm.

499
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 6: About to say, you gotta give me something from that.

500
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: I had never been around that many women and girls.

501
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: You know, you think you want to be around it,

502
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 5: You think you want to be in the business to

503
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: be around this type of environment.

504
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 8: But when you see it at that, at that level,

505
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 8: it's pandemonium. Oh man, it's just it's scary. It's uh,

506
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 8: it could be a little frightening. You ain't ready, you

507
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 8: fresh out of yeah, outshout of church after church, after barbershop,

508
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 8: after the barbershop.

509
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: And here you are. There's about two thousand women dressed

510
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: or undressed however they wanted to be. They show up,

511
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: they show up, and it's just like, man, and this

512
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 5: is ninety what ninety nobody ninety five? When freaking you came,

513
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: they wanted ninety three, ninety or five. Yeah, man, they won't.

514
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 8: This is why they made the show, the after party,

515
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 8: this is why they made I really I didn't know

516
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 8: exactly what it meant, but it was.

517
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: It was a different time for me. I had to

518
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: make a decision. Boy, you can get sucked up in it,

519
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 5: or you can pull back all that and find yourself.

520
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 6: I feel like you had to do all of it, though,

521
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 6: in order to find some balanced guy here.

522
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 5: Well, I was bound to be a little balanced. Before

523
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: I got to New York. I balanced myself new York.

524
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the tour. Oh well, the tour, yeah, yeah,

525
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: this was it was too much for me. I think

526
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: it shocked me. Shocked me too, yeah yeah, yeah. As

527
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: I got older, less shocking. You can control. But it

528
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: wasn't a joy. It wasn't a Jodasy tour type of environment.

529
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: I never experienced that. Again, well with Di Angelo, when

530
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 5: I was saying with d Angelo, it was, but it

531
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: was grown there, it was grown right right. But the

532
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: Jodasy tour absolutely, I've never Yeah, I like it, like

533
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 5: the movies.

534
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 6: I liking it to me being on the road with

535
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 6: genuine mm hmm. You know, come from the same yeah yeah,

536
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: same family, and I'm fresh fresh out of church.

537
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: Just imagine if you was the opening act though on

538
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: that tour. I know, I get, I get it.

539
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: But what I was, but I was, where I was

540
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: was such a crazy position because I was organizing everything.

541
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 6: Oh like, because I was genuine as valet. So it's

542
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 6: like it's like you get them right there, Yeah, yes, sir.

543
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't get I didn't get that position.

544
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 6: And so in me organizing and yeah, it's like, well

545
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 6: we had to organize yourself. Would you also like, well,

546
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to overstep, but the man, some of this.

547
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Is it.

548
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was the ultimate wing man. I had never

549
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 6: been a wing man before. I didn't know what this

550
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 6: was and.

551
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: Ringing it, winging it, and it was in abundance. It's crazy.

552
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: You don't see that like you see it on the

553
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: movies and the videos, but when you're there experiencing its

554
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: way to come on, man, it's and it's nothing like

555
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 5: the nineties version nothing, you know. Yeah, I was blessed

556
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 5: to be you know, and stick get in in ninety six,

557
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 5: ninety seven, ninety like, and I and I saw the difference,

558
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: you know, as we started moving up through the two thousands, and.

559
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 6: It's getting later, you know. But in those times before

560
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 6: the phone and and before you talked about your business

561
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 6: all the time, before any of that.

562
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 5: Before people knew that they can get money.

563
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 6: From Yeah, you guys said it had to be back then,

564
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 6: it had to be a whole another level, like it

565
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 6: had to be natural inquire level to even.

566
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 8: Speak on it, right, Like it was no lower levels

567
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 8: of that kind. So like okay, if you ain't Dave

568
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 8: Prince of Michael Jackson.

569
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 6: We don't want to hear it and listen if you

570
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 6: messed with somebody.

571
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then it happened in your city.

572
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 6: Maybe a few people knew in your city, but it

573
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 6: wasn't national news, right, and they probably thought you was

574
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 6: lying and they probably thought, you know, you know exactly

575
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 6: now that that's real.

576
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 8: Okay, So you so you get off tour? You got

577
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 8: you got the Ecstasy album?

578
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, you know what I gotta I gotta bring

579
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: this up, so Jo, you know they they who they are.

580
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: Of course. We were in Houston at the time, place

581
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: called Club Iguana, and I'm supposed to go on before them,

582
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: but the crowd was so hyped.

583
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: K C.

584
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 5: Case wanted to go on first. It was like Casey

585
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 5: and didn't want to go on before you to night.

586
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 5: I said, I'm supposed to go on behind it. They said, yeah,

587
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: they want to go on first tonight because the crowd

588
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: was extremely ready. They were ready. Didn't so I didn't

589
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: deserve that, you know what I'm saying to them. I didn't.

590
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: He didn't.

591
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: He didn't deserve that. So they came out, they did

592
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: that show, but I went on after them, and don't

593
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 5: you know, I got a huge applause, and Alvin came

594
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 5: to me it was like, that was pretty brave what

595
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 5: you did to come on after us like that. And

596
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 5: after that I was like, okay, I'm in it. But

597
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 5: I had to tell that part. Yeah, that is because

598
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 5: anybody else probably wouldn't have gone on after them, because

599
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: they I mean they smoked it.

600
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 6: Or would have gone on and it definitely wouldn't have

601
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 6: got that response.

602
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: Didn't get it. No, I just I just I just

603
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 5: did me stayed in mind. Yeah, that that let me

604
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 5: know when they especially when they co signed, yes, say,

605
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 5: that was pretty brave of you to go behind us

606
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 5: like that. Wow, it was a chance.

607
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 6: Was there any success from Ecstasy?

608
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: You know what, It's been passed around, it's been sold

609
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: on being in that, but no, no. I think at

610
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: that moment, Andre Herald and MCA had fallen apart, and

611
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 5: I got pretty much shelved. I was sent to mc

612
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: A directly, and I think it was heavy deat it

613
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 5: was going to be my n R. But back then

614
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: people wanted to have percentages and ownership and publishing and

615
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 5: so it was already packaged up, so nobody felt like

616
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: it was their baby.

617
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so it wasn't worth it for them. Do

618
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 6: you get tripped from or do you get another shot

619
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 6: at it?

620
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 5: I was sold. Yeah, So Andre Herrel came back again.

621
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: He had Herald Entertainment and he was he was dating

622
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 5: Court and Sony, Tommy Watola and at this time Andre

623
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 5: he came to the studio with Marajh Carey. I remember

624
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: she came to my session in New York. Uh. He

625
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 5: brought up by and so, Hey, we're gonna do this

626
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: and we're gonna go through Sony and I guess him

627
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: and Tommy didn't see how I And so there I

628
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: was again with another record deal, just sit sitting. Yeah.

629
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: I had a lot of those actually for ten years,

630
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 5: for ten years, having different deals. Yeah. I got signed

631
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 5: in ninety three. My first album came out in two

632
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: thousand and three. So I was passed around. Geez. Yeah.

633
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 5: So by the time coming from I'm from Campout, I

634
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: had a whole nother spirit behind me. Then I was,

635
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: you know a lot of giving up in my in

636
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 5: my in my spirit. Had you gone back to North

637
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: Carolina during that time? Yeah? Yeah, I would go back

638
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 5: because I had a son, Anthony Junr was you know,

639
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: at home and so I would go back every two

640
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: or three bucks. M h yeah, and then I went

641
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 5: for a long time. I was like, you know what,

642
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna stay.

643
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 6: What were you doing to survive during all of that

644
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 6: studio work? Different sessions.

645
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: Yacht Kid K he's working on a new album, so

646
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: I would go in and do backgrounds and session work.

647
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 5: I did one with but I'll be sure. I ended

648
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: up going to the studio doing some some overdubs. I'll

649
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 5: be sure. I was sure you owe me some money.

650
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: Talk about it. Mm hmm. Now I know how to

651
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: count my overdubs. You know what you owe me an overdub?

652
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: You know.

653
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: You owe me.

654
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: I'll be sure you owe me for the OVERDUBN learn

655
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 5: about overdubbed. I had to pay some overdubs. Yeah, I

656
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 5: need paying you that I need four notes, three times.

657
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 6: That every time you sing a note, it costs exactly.

658
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 5: And it was a weekend, so you go after you

659
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: know they pay you. Yes, that's how I had my insurance.

660
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 5: And you know, yeah that I didn't know. Terry put

661
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: me up on game.

662
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 6: I said, oh people, listen, guys, use the agency.

663
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, that's what it's there for.

664
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 6: That's what is therefore they will protect you, they will

665
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 6: collect for.

666
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: You absolutely and use them.

667
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 6: So your session work and you being around New York,

668
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 6: does that lead to you singing background for D'Angelo.

669
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 5: Well, d'angelo's album brown Sugar was coming out around the

670
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 5: same time my Ecstasy album was supposed to come out,

671
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 5: So ketterf Massenberg will come over to the studio and

672
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: play brown Sugar and Tony and Polk would play Ecstasy,

673
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 5: almost like we were going to be rivals. And then

674
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 5: when my album didn't come out, D'Angelo was asking about me.

675
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 5: And by this time he was being managed by Dominic

676
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: Treneer and Don was like, yo, de was asking what

677
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: were you doing? Man, want you to come out and

678
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 5: you know, think you a tour with him doing background.

679
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: I was say, well, at this moment, I had just

680
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 5: got signed the Soul Life, Sunshine and the Center and

681
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: all of us, and I went to them and I

682
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: asked him and say, hey, man, this guy named the

683
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 5: Angelo's got to be a big sensation. I know I'm

684
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: working on an album right now, but y'all are working

685
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: on Sunshine. Heard it all before us. Yeah, And so

686
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 5: for a minute they went back and forth. It's like, man,

687
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 5: you can't do what we want you. We need you

688
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 5: to have this album. I said, it will make me

689
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: a better artist. I promise you, and I'll give y'all

690
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 5: album when I get back. Eventually they said yes, I

691
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 5: went on to it with the Angelo and that really

692
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: changed my life. Yeah, it's like going to Harvard. Yes. Yeah,

693
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: so you have Penal Paladin. You know you have Questlove,

694
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: James Poorser, Roy Hargrove, Jaques Schwarzbach, Frank Route Lacy, all

695
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: these amazing people. Karen Vynard Andrew Stone was singing background

696
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: to blow same backgrounds with us, and so that shaped me.

697
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: Shelby Johnson, JK. Jack King. So I was around the

698
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: best of the best, and so this shaped me in

699
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: a way that I don't think I could even have

700
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 5: paid for this. Yeah, that's a different kind of shed too.

701
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: That was a different tour. That was like touring with

702
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: friends Martin Luther, k Marvin Gaye. It was so black

703
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: and so unapologetic. Yep, that was one. We went everywhere Brazil.

704
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 5: We toured in Europe for a month on a tour bus,

705
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: double Jacko tour bus. So that's when I was like, Okay,

706
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 5: I'm in it now. I can't turn back. I can't

707
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 5: go to Charlotte. I'm standing until I make it happen.

708
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 6: That Brown Sugar album, Jesus Christ.

709
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: But not only did I, I toured. I was on

710
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: the tail end of the Brown Sugar performances and tour.

711
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 5: But who was going to to the Voodoo That's where

712
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 5: I toured the Voodoo tour. I was got more aggressive.

713
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: So I was at this moment, Okay, I had been

714
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: through the Jodasy camp and I had seen what could be. Yeah,

715
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 5: so when how does it feel? And that touring came out,

716
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 5: I was a little more secure, you know.

717
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 6: And.

718
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: You managed was a wing man. You managed it. If

719
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 5: you see this when I see you in the clubs,

720
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: when when I see you in the club I made

721
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 5: up for it. I made up for it. Actually I

722
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 5: stayed pretty balanced, but I enjoyed myself.

723
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 6: What would you say from that? Because I feel like

724
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 6: I feel like Jodasy is one thing, but I feel

725
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 6: like the Angelo is way more in the vein of

726
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: what you are in terms of what it could contribute

727
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: to you as a creative. Yeah, what would you say,

728
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 6: Like was the if you can pinpoint one of the

729
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 6: things that was like one of the greatest things you

730
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 6: took from that experience.

731
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: I think the ability to do whatever I want to

732
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 5: do on stage and be bold enough to stand on

733
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 5: it like I believe in it. I think that's what

734
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: what allows me to perform our performance singer. See watching

735
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 5: him night after night, just captivating the audience and taking

736
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: them to places that they weren't even expecting. Like our

737
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: shows will be rehearsed and put together tight, but every

738
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 5: night he's going to do something that we didn't expect

739
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: and we had to learn to, you know, with improvise. Yeah,

740
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 5: I see a lot of these a lot of these

741
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: cats now, and so you need a click track, you

742
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: need this, you need that. It's so locked in. It's

743
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 5: they're so locked in, so it becomes sterile. But learn

744
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: to move with the spirits because you know these are

745
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 5: he's a church guy. He's a church boy, you know,

746
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 5: and so he moved like it, and so questing those

747
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: guys they knew it, they knew how to they knew

748
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 5: how to flow. So you got to be able to

749
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: be you be able to read the room, read the audience.

750
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 5: There's times when they're set lists, if that song didn't

751
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: fit in that moment, we're not doing it. We'll come

752
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: back to it. So a lot of times, you know,

753
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 5: you get a lot of flak from some of the

754
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: younger musicians. It's like, man, he keeps changing the show.

755
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: It's his show. Well with me, but not with the

756
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: those cats were he had a level of musicians that

757
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: understood it. But some of the younger guys that I

758
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: toured with, it's like I was, I'm gonna change it

759
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: because that's not what they need right now. But once again,

760
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: it's your show. Y'all heard him, y'all heard mister d the.

761
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 6: Boss said, is his show like it's you have to

762
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 6: be able to adjust?

763
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to, man. And when I learn to

764
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: read them, it makes me better because I know how

765
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 5: to service what they need. And I try to tell

766
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 5: the band man some nights, some nights it's not time

767
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 5: for Charlie. You got them in a sweet spot. That's

768
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 5: milk it. And then when Charlie comes, it's.

769
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: A super bowl milking is a lost start, it is,

770
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 6: I think in yeah, in this time in twenty twenty six, yeah,

771
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 6: I see very few artists. They sticking to the They

772
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 6: sticking to this. They have a program, yeah right, and

773
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 6: they're just running through the program.

774
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 5: It's sterile though, but the milk, Yeah.

775
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 6: Those who understand milking. Yeah, that's why I say when

776
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: you with you and Fantasia, like, I love I love

777
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 6: watching YouTube perform because you guys know, I mean, I

778
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: think it's a church thing, right, Yeah, you know how

779
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: to find that sweet spot and you can feel the

780
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 6: spirit starting to do something different and you know how.

781
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll stay here for a minute. Don't touch it,

782
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: don't add the extra note. Yeah, you have to stay there.

783
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 6: I'm talking to one of my one of my guys

784
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 6: on the show that I'm on, and I can't say

785
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 6: who yet, but he's like, so, how did your band

786
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 6: know to like just keep doing that?

787
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 5: Yeah?

788
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 6: Like how did and then you just started doing something?

789
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 6: How did they know? How did you guys know together?

790
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 6: I said, we're just from the same place. And so

791
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 6: when you when you feel it and you give each

792
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: other that look.

793
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: They already know where you're going. Oh, I already know

794
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 5: and we're just there. Yeah, And it feels good when

795
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 5: they they pretty much like, we already we want to

796
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 5: go there. Yeah. So that's a great feeling. Man, Like

797
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 5: when you get you get that type of band. Yeah,

798
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 5: you can do anything coming from where I'm from. Oh

799
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 5: that changed my life. Oh I know it did. Yeah,

800
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 5: life no more it is. You can get to the

801
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 5: album you signed to Jermaine Dupris, Yes, I did. How

802
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 5: How did how did that happen? You know? I had

803
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: been at it for a minute, man, and one thing

804
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 5: led to another. I did a co wrote for Donnielle Jones,

805
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 5: say what say what? Come on? Come on? Yeah? Yeah,

806
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 5: yeah yeah, I co wrote that. And so in that

807
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 5: time I was getting a lot of feature starting to

808
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 5: get a lot of feature work. I had did Tupacs

809
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 5: Thugs Matching, and I did Jada Kiss. Why so I'm

810
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 5: getting a buzz again. Did Nappy Roots come before the

811
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: Nappy Roots? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, Nappy Roots. That's that's

812
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: the one that really put the face the name and

813
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 5: the face and in the image made it. It became

814
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 5: a household names folk. Yeah, so it made sense. And

815
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 5: so I was invited to Nandell McMillan's Grammy Brunch and

816
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 5: U At this moment, I didn't have a record deal

817
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 5: with all this stuff out though. It's moving for you.

818
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I'm getting I'm getting work, but you know,

819
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: record deal not really. It was still I'm still on

820
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 5: the same show, and uh so it invited me to

821
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 5: sing I had coming from where I'm from, because at

822
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: this moment, I would go to the studio each day

823
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: with Mark Batson, who produced Charlene and coming from where

824
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 5: I'm from, and he would just let me record for

825
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 5: free because he believed in something in me, because if

826
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 5: he didn't, he was gonna break in the studio anyway,

827
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: because I remember, I remember now to get it and

828
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: that that was a song I sang. Michael Marden, whose Germaine,

829
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 5: the Priest's father was an audience. Now this particular night,

830
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 5: it was Prince in the room. Luc Keys, Kanye and

831
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 5: Isaac Hayes introduced me. So I'm sitting backstage and that's

832
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 5: when I had first started withing my trucker hats. And

833
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 5: I remember sitting backstage and Kamora Lee was staring at me.

834
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 5: I had on my dad's flannel blue shirt had those

835
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 5: like little silver linings in it, and I had on

836
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: these true Religion had just first came out, and on

837
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: these cowboy boots, and she was just staring at me,

838
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 5: and I act like I didn't see her because I

839
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: was a little you know, I said, Kimorley, and I'm

840
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 5: about to go out and sing, and I ain't sang

841
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: in a wild in front of an audience. She said,

842
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 5: that's what you have a great look. And I want

843
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 5: to let you know, kamor Ley, you really sealed it

844
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 5: for you. You sealed it. And I went out there

845
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 5: and sung the hell out of her, coming from where

846
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 5: I'm from, like this is the last this is the

847
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: last song I have to sing. This is my last opportunity.

848
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 5: And as soon as I got off stage, Michael Martin

849
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 5: called Germaine Dupris and he got somebody I wants you

850
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: to hear. So I must have sang that song about

851
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 5: ten times in his office, like maybe like a couple

852
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 5: of days later, and then he was telling La, read

853
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 5: this guy. Man, you gotta hear this guy sing the song.

854
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 5: And La was like, I don't believe that he can

855
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 5: sing that. I don't believe he could do it. Now

856
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 5: I sing it for him at least three times. I'm

857
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 5: sitting there singing it. He said, I don't believe that

858
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 5: ain't him because it sounds so I sound so old,

859
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 5: and so it was so real like singing it the

860
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 5: same way. It probably even better live. And I remember

861
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 5: having a showcase of sobs you know that's New York,

862
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 5: and Jermaine brought his whole crew, the whole staff down,

863
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 5: and mind you, I was talking to Jimmy, I bean

864
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: he was interested in me. I think it was Tim

865
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 5: Reid he was interested in me. Jermaine came in. He's

866
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 5: pretty much he pretty much bullied his way in. Yeah,

867
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 5: and I ended up signing with so so deaf. What

868
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: made you make that decision though? Too?

869
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 8: Was it was it a financial thing, like okay when

870
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 8: you say bully, was it like okay, I'm a double.

871
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 5: The deal or you know what I mean? No, he

872
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 5: was just like, yo, you signed them with me? Like yo,

873
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: I get it. He was like, I get who you are.

874
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 5: So la Red wanted me to change dress up, put

875
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 5: on suit shirts and suits, you know, dressed me up.

876
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 5: Marvin gave me and uh Jad was like, nah, just

877
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 5: like that the truck I had raggedy bed all.

878
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 6: That and had already told you with a supermode.

879
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I was probably I was about to get

880
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 5: signed up chef arm or something. So I was like,

881
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: let's do this, son, let's do this, scooci free do

882
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 5: so when JD started talking about what he saw in

883
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 5: me and not changing it. Yeah. Yeah, that made me

884
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 5: believe in his vision more than anybody else. Jimmy Ivan

885
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 5: was like, I love your voice and I love this,

886
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 5: he said, but I don't really know what to.

887
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 6: Do with you.

888
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: Then why would I sign you know?

889
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: But he did.

890
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 5: He gifted me four songs, four songs off of coming

891
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 5: from where I'm From. He paid for the studio sessions.

892
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 5: He was like, just as a gift. Wow. Yeah, So

893
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 5: thank you, Jimmy. That was pretty cool. And from there, man,

894
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 5: you know, Misslles, Michelle sent Yez Boy. They came up

895
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 5: with a marketing plan to make people believe in who

896
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 5: I was. The music. They were sending stuff like hey

897
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: with like a CD and a little trucker hat with

898
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 5: age on it. The internal marketing campaign. Yeah yeah, yeah,

899
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: you know. They started putting the movie together and I

900
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 5: had to sell it. That's what I did. I went

901
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 5: out on the road and tour it and sang last off. Yeah.

902
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: You definitely fucking did that.

903
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 6: And I think when you say sell it it, you know,

904
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 6: I think the beauty in it is you just got

905
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 6: to be yourself.

906
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: Really what it is. You got to find that spot

907
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: that represent who who you really are, not even just

908
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 5: your music, but on and off the stage, you have

909
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: to you know, lifestyle. Yeah, you become yourself. You find

910
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 5: that sweet spot in your life where it's just like,

911
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: you know what, I don't need no outfit, I don't

912
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 5: need a lot of extra stuff to become who I

913
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 5: am because it's in there. Pay attention to it, and

914
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 5: I found it, you know, and with the people around

915
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 5: me helping to show me who I was supposed to be,

916
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 5: it made sense. All of it made sense. And so

917
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 5: I was like, this is the run I need. And

918
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 5: I was like, God, thank you. Ten years, ten years,

919
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 5: ten years.

920
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: Man.

921
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 5: The same thing with Maroon five. I talked to Adam.

922
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 5: We were just you just talked to Adam from Maroom five,

923
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: just like I mean we were at We're at the

924
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: Soho house. Yeah, yeah, we were at the house.

925
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

926
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 5: So it was all at the Soho House. I have

927
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 5: a picture of us laughing so hard you can see

928
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 5: our veins. But they were signed for ten years too,

929
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 5: and you know, just bounced around. Man. He was like, man,

930
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 5: it's a sweet it's sweet time when you finally can

931
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, when it off that shelf and yeah,

932
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: a little shot. Boy.

933
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 8: When Charlene finally drops, I know the world changes for you.

934
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. I didn't owe my landlord any more money.

935
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I overpaid her and she sent me

936
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 5: a check once I moved for two thousand dollars them.

937
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 5: Thank you, miss Ryman. Yeah, that changed my life, man. Yeah, yeah,

938
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 5: because I was singing from fresh out of a heartbreak.

939
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 5: M hmm okay, yeah, so do it that I'm a mess.

940
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 5: I sung I'm a mess at four am up in

941
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 5: neuroshll no, what's the other place? Westchester, New Yall? Remember

942
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 5: that four am leading at the heart? Yeah, put all that,

943
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: you know. I needed to go through it to be

944
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 5: able to give you, guys what you are here now.

945
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 5: So sometime your pain is not to destroy you, to

946
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 5: build you. Yeah. Did you buy any extra trucker hat?

947
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 6: So?

948
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 5: Did you buy some extra water? The same one until

949
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 5: the start of smell no char out? Yeah, I had to. Yeah.

950
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not getting rid of this hat.

951
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 5: That was the Yeah, that was the hat you my aunt. Yeah, seriously,

952
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 5: like you can get it and you can get a

953
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: whooping Yeah, get it? Yeah, yeah that hat? Don't put

954
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: no no talk of trucks and none of that in

955
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 5: my hat said his name to produce Charlene Mark Batho.

956
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 5: He produced Charlotte coming from where I'm from, Batman, sister

957
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: big bones, can't let go Yeah Hockey since I sent you. Yeah,

958
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 5: he said, a lot of a lot of a lot

959
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 5: of my bigger And that's lucky and that that's that's

960
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 5: a blessing too. When you find somebody.

961
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 6: Who gets it musically, where that marriage is just like, yeah,

962
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 6: it ain't forced, it just makes sense. You ain't searching

963
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: around trying to figure out where it is.

964
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 5: Like, yes, he's one of the ones. Him, Kelvin Wooton,

965
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 5: who did h cool and her heart and uh so

966
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 5: in love with you with Scott Glvin he gets it

967
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 5: as well. He's a church boy as well.

968
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 8: So yeah, shout out to Jermaine too, man like you

969
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 8: said saying, hey man, I don't want to change you.

970
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 8: Bless you be who you are. But then also because

971
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 8: it's the other thing that happens when you sign the

972
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 8: producers they want to produce.

973
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 5: He didn't. He lets y'all rock. He was like, which

974
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 5: is even more amazing. He didn't want to write, he

975
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 5: didn't want to do I had to force him to do. Uh,

976
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 5: Mama new love the idea that jay Z had. Mama

977
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 5: loves me. I say, man, this sample, right, I said,

978
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 5: if you can do something with this sample, man, I

979
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 5: promise you I'll deliver something special. And he went in

980
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 5: he started. Yep, he put jay Z's voice in it,

981
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 5: right right. Heah. Yeah. At this moment, I was like,

982
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 5: that ain't what I'm looking for. After you, after you

983
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 5: asked him to do it, But I was like I

984
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 5: didn't know. I didn't know where it was going. Then

985
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 5: he started playing, playing chords and sampling chords and put

986
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 5: it together. I was like, he really, he really gets

987
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 5: in there and do it. People they he's not, but

988
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 5: he his lyrics and everything, everything, he does everything everything.

989
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 5: So if you had never seen JD really in the studio, yeah,

990
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah, he's in the

991
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. Yeah.

992
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 6: Very smart, very smart, very smart, very very large, all

993
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 6: of that, yeah, all of that.

994
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: I know the money changed, you know, well, charge a

995
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 5: lot more. You know, I'll charge a lot more now. Bags.

996
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 5: I charged up up my price, my price. You know, man,

997
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 5: I've earned it. You have to earn it, man, you

998
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 5: know it's more to pay.

999
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 6: For just just give me the first because this is

1000
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 6: Jay's question, but I'm still it. What's the first extravagant

1001
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 6: thing your purchased for yourself?

1002
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 5: The first extravagant thing.

1003
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 6: Like where you was, like you went outside yourself in

1004
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 6: a sense, like you got besides yourself.

1005
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 5: You know what it was. It might not be a

1006
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 5: lot to y'all, but for me. Thirteen one hundred dollars

1007
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 5: lizard Guccies bout Harbor.

1008
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 6: No what here though?

1009
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 5: This is early off. Oh no, that's the thing I like.

1010
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: I never had no shoes.

1011
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 6: More thirteen hundred on a pair of shoes at that time.

1012
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 5: That's what DLO like. In the whole it is Gucci Gucci.

1013
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 5: They were Gucci and Gucci, yeah in that time. But

1014
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 5: then I got the belt you gotta get. I got

1015
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 5: the shirt you I don't come on them.

1016
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 6: After whole, I got the blades of the can.

1017
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 5: So I'm all out. I wouldn't you crazy, I wouldn't

1018
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 5: go you crazy? You damn right? Where'd you? Where's your wear?

1019
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 5: It said outfit too, because I went it's uh, it's

1020
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 5: Getty images. It was the it's the BET Awards. Yeah,

1021
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: you saying it? You seen it? Say that They better

1022
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 5: see it. Yeah, man, they saying it. So I'm adding

1023
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 5: up to numbers. You spent spent the ten ball in there? Yeah, yeah,

1024
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: I probably did. I'm in one year, no, lie, and

1025
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 5: then it might not be a lot to y'all because

1026
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 5: you got seven podcasts it all. But like I was

1027
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: doing my you know, my taxes and going over my

1028
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 5: financial stuff, and my financial person at the time was like,

1029
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: you spent over fifty thousand dollars in closing, Anthony, and uh,

1030
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 5: you know this is pretty early years. Give me a minute.

1031
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 5: Two thousand, like two thousand three four. Yeah, you're tripping.

1032
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah that was in two thousand and three, fifty k

1033
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 6: out of control.

1034
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 5: He didn't start. Yeah, that too. I was in LA

1035
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 5: I told Lorenzo and all that. You know traffic, Yeah, yeah,

1036
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 5: that's traffic. Was I see the boost you got on

1037
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 5: right now, I understand. I know what you're doing. I

1038
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 5: would stand.

1039
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 6: I would get the styling. Yeah, I styled inexpensive clothes.

1040
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, going going back, but this is stuff. So I

1041
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 5: was liking the stuff that they were styling me in

1042
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 5: and taking back. So I had to try to find

1043
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 5: something that made me feel as good. Yeah. I respect that,

1044
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 5: but I didn't have the relationships. Yeah, yeah, so I

1045
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 5: had to go full price.

1046
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 6: You said traffic. I know you was in the Beverly

1047
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 6: Center giving it to.

1048
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: Him, Lorenzo h Sunset. Yeah, oh, they hit you in

1049
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: the head. Now I go in there, I'd be like, man,

1050
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 5: y'all you mind, I might get something here and there.

1051
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. You can't say that with

1052
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 5: you right now? You think that, you know, because you know, yeah,

1053
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 5: I've had these a couple of years.

1054
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 6: I've got the money out of Okay, that means you

1055
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 6: got another twenty I'm gonna tell that tip still shining.

1056
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: Well, I tell you right now. Yeah, I wanted to

1057
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, coming here looking like a little bit

1058
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 5: of RB you got, you got you. I was like,

1059
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 5: you know you're going ONB money. You gotta show you

1060
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 5: got a little money. Geez.

1061
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think now, like you know, in today's time,

1062
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 6: like when you say fifty thousand, it's like, you know,

1063
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 6: it's like a couple pair of pants. Well yeah, now

1064
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 6: maybe something.

1065
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, three or four shirts? Yeah, because T shirts Tad

1066
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 5: sixteen hundred, two thousand, and he's lost his mind at

1067
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 5: this sixteen hundred dollars, Well, who got a sixteen hundred

1068
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 5: dollar T shirt.

1069
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 6: The pants I wore o Versus was twenty.

1070
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 5: Lone twenty what Yeah, I'm on your side now, twenty rack,

1071
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 5: twenty rack.

1072
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, shirt was sick.

1073
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 5: They probably sold about forty pair of belt was eighteen.

1074
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 5: You know you came in there with yourn.

1075
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 6: Now, I guess what. I kept all them clothes on.

1076
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 5: You're not taking a shirt off on first. You're gonna

1077
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 5: see this outfit. Look. You know what what it's that

1078
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 5: turtal neck. Oh man ship, we love you, but that

1079
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 5: turtle neck. I didn't bring it up it. Look you

1080
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 5: had me church, Yeah, church, you know you went in

1081
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: you went in on it.

1082
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 6: That's what. That's what my guy was asking. He said,

1083
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 6: how did they know that?

1084
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1085
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 6: Going and yeah said even the background. Oh look, I

1086
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 6: was like, oh, I like this could be you know

1087
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 6: he had.

1088
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 5: Been to church and start getting good.

1089
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, here you too, ministry and I gotta earn the

1090
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 6: money back. Yeah, we got a stream that was good.

1091
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 6: The touring with Fantasia. Yeah, and I know you can

1092
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 6: speak to this. How amazing is that combination? Because I

1093
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 6: think that that combination is just powerful.

1094
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 5: Brother. You know what, I've had some really great tools,

1095
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 5: like Maxwell, Me, Maxwell and Joe did an amazing tour

1096
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: that was really powerful. But when me and Fantasia get together,

1097
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 5: it's something different. It's like, uh, it's almost like Al

1098
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 5: Green and Aretha Franklin being on tour and we're singing

1099
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 5: from that space, and so you don't you don't see that.

1100
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 5: It's not about the outfits, it's not about popularity. We're

1101
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 5: going out there the same, our faces off every single night.

1102
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 5: And so not only are we, you know, bringing in

1103
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 5: a lot of people who doing stadiums, not stadiums. But uh, sorry,

1104
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 5: Chris Brown, and I didn't try to get in that.

1105
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 5: I was wrong. I'm apologizing. We are saying that we're available,

1106
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 5: but I am available, and I can't bring some people

1107
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 5: in there the same, you know. But we're doing well. Yeah, yeah,

1108
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 5: yeah we can. Kanye too. I've learned a lot of

1109
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 5: your backgrounds on a new album. But and if you

1110
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 5: need me in the Tones.

1111
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 6: Tone, I'll ask you about.

1112
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 5: The Fantasia man. Watching her every night, it's it's almost

1113
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 5: like we living China Turner and Aretha Franklin all in one.

1114
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 5: But she's so churchy in moments when it's like she

1115
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 5: can or she can't she can't. She couldn't even downplay

1116
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 5: that if she had to.

1117
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 6: It's all over.

1118
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's every night, every nighting. So I'm standing

1119
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 5: on the side watching her, just being amazed every single night,

1120
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: and just to see her growth period, you know, work.

1121
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 6: On the first album. So I'm like, I cried when

1122
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 6: she won American.

1123
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 5: Im wow, that'st you worked, you produced on the first album.

1124
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 6: Yeah wow. I felt that when she when she sang

1125
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 6: on American Idol that's it. Yeah, I did too. I

1126
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 6: don't think y'all understand what that is.

1127
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 5: It was, specially when I saw it, I was like,

1128
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 5: oh yeah, and we just we just finished the movie together.

1129
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 6: And I had always had Fantasia high up as one

1130
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 6: of the coldest female artists ever.

1131
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 5: I had her high up. She was top ten. Oh yeah, absolutely.

1132
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 5: I guess just.

1133
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 6: Being around her for that long and hearing her singing

1134
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 6: that much, Yeah, it just reminded me, Oh, you're like

1135
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 6: top three, top four, got it?

1136
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, she's definitely it's a problem. Don't go

1137
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 5: out there if you can't open up and and and.

1138
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 6: You know, and that's what I'm getting to, the weight

1139
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 6: of what you have would you bring to the table

1140
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 6: to go along with that.

1141
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 5: You get your feelings hurt if you go out there

1142
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 5: and you're not ready.

1143
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 8: And then at the hamiltone, y'all are amazing, amazing package.

1144
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you Infantasia you know, and the Hamilton

1145
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 8: Hell yeah, absolutely, the tones are it's hard to beat them.

1146
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 5: When it comes to the background, that's some good ones.

1147
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 5: It's great ones out that.

1148
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 6: How many background groups or entities go viral?

1149
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 5: Not many, not many. I don't know one, No, I've

1150
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 5: never seen it. How long How long have they been

1151
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 5: with you? You know? Wow? Maybe on and off? Maybe

1152
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 5: seven eight years maybe one of them. My cousin is

1153
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 5: j Vito, the one in the middle. Yeah, what's all

1154
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 5: about his names? In the Hamilton's Tony J. Vito is

1155
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 5: the one in the in the middle, and TUOI h

1156
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 5: Is the lighter, lighter guy. And Corey and those guys, man,

1157
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 5: they can sing anything in the drop of yeah yeah

1158
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 5: together like they already know it's special. It's like they

1159
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 5: were born to sing just these notes that they that

1160
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 5: you monsters. But let me tell you that Tony Lee Low,

1161
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 5: if you get on the guitar, get different. Oh man,

1162
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 5: he can jewbo it hm oh Prince Juwbu whatever he can,

1163
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 5: he can go quartet man, just straight, he's just he's

1164
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 5: a problem. That's where you'd be living to you be

1165
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 5: living in that quartet world. Yeah, well, I mean that's

1166
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 5: what you man. My uncle Benny was little. Yeah, I

1167
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 5: got a little something little I hate how you doing it?

1168
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 5: A little tasty, little tasting. I grew up so I was,

1169
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 5: you know, grew up Baptist Macedonia, Baptist Church. I remember

1170
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 5: they just smoked cigarettes out in the front, out in front,

1171
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 5: yeah yeah, yeah, cigarette and I definitely smelled liquor getting

1172
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 5: the taste. Yeah, I smelled it for the Lord I knew.

1173
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 5: Oh oh yeah, come to the church with it the.

1174
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and was collecting their money with the pistol. Oh absolutely,

1175
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 6: well yeah I know that.

1176
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 5: Uncle Benny. They were come. You know when they have

1177
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 5: the church have anniversary, all these groups. So you set up,

1178
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 5: so you've been to church all like you said, Sunday School,

1179
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 5: the real church. But then there's an anniversary when they

1180
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: invite all these different groups from all these churches from

1181
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 5: all over.

1182
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 6: That service started six Oh.

1183
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 5: Man, you're talking about singing down the walls. So that's

1184
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 5: like hood day. No it's four tip get tired of me.

1185
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 5: It's still equivalent.

1186
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 6: Oh he's from over, He from another church, okay, man,

1187
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 6: he from the table? No, no, he from Oh okay,

1188
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 6: have my money? Oh that kind on Thursdays, pimp a

1189
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 6: design the bills in sequential order or it's gonna be

1190
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 6: a proplet. It's called hard money, hard money, wow man?

1191
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all the man, that quartette is just it's

1192
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 5: just the R and B to my I.

1193
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 6: Saw a little and the Hailey singers. You saw it

1194
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 6: was livelive.

1195
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 5: I never got a chance to catch as a kid,

1196
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 5: even though you were in North Carolina. See and Jojo

1197
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 5: are we're actually related? Man, ain't fantastic family. I know

1198
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 5: she's related to them, So I'm trying to figure out.

1199
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 5: We're trying to figure out she's related on the same

1200
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 5: side that.

1201
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 6: I'm really all makes sense, Yeah, yeah, So.

1202
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 5: I went down to a funeral, my uncle's funeral, and

1203
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 5: I forgot he was dead by the time they got

1204
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 5: through singing. I forgot, nig I'm telling you that's how.

1205
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 5: And look they tried to show off in front of me,

1206
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 5: like uncle jun is dead, like Jim, let's focus off

1207
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 5: with Joe. But so they sitting up there. They trying

1208
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: to put the show off for mere man, and they're like,

1209
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 5: that's what you get it from? This is why where

1210
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 5: you get it from? The talking in the mic like

1211
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: what like you know what, man, I'm telling you my

1212
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 5: my family life, I get it. I forgot it was Yeah,

1213
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 5: I drove one back to Charlotte. I was like, boy,

1214
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 5: that was a time tell.

1215
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 6: Us I watched I watched Jojo and Casey run down

1216
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 6: the middle aisle of the church.

1217
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 5: Oh they was doing it back then and he was.

1218
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 6: Ball headed and he had ear rings in his ear

1219
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 6: and later, oh yeah in church, you don't come down

1220
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 6: in the middle out. You definitely don't run.

1221
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 5: And you definitely better have no ear rings off.

1222
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 6: They was they was gangsters in court tep. We was like,

1223
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 6: what man of manness?

1224
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:47,440
Speaker 5: Not normal man work? Cooking m mmm now I say cooking.

1225
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can only imagine. And how old are it

1226
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 8: at this point? Probably ship I'm a baby.

1227
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 5: So they was like what eight No, they was like

1228
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 5: the teensens. When I saw I saw one clip in

1229
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 5: case he had a little curl, sorry, he had a

1230
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 5: little curl on the on the cover. It was little

1231
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 5: Cedric and the Haley singer, and uh, I forgot that

1232
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 5: sound he was. His voice was really high, real high

1233
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 5: at the time. It must be love and it might

1234
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 5: it might be it's.

1235
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah he ro Robrado was crazy back then too.

1236
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 4: Man.

1237
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta be their cousin. Yeah, Casey, what's her couz?

1238
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 5: He'll call me. Yeah, that's crazy to find out your family.

1239
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 5: It's gotta be thinking, fantasious, gotta be related, close related.

1240
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 6: You know, what is there? What do you feel like

1241
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 6: there's left for you to do? What are you chasing

1242
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 6: at this point when it comes to your music and

1243
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 6: your artistry.

1244
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 5: And to continue to do it longevity too. I think

1245
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 5: that's one more great, extremely great album that I'm supposed

1246
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 5: to be doing and to get in that space. I

1247
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 5: don't know exactly what it's gonna sound like, but I

1248
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 5: have an idea. But it's gonna mean a lot to

1249
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 5: a lot of people. And I'm waiting to find it

1250
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 5: the sweet spot to get in there and do that.

1251
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 5: Get more into movies mm hmmm. Acting yeah, acting, I

1252
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 5: think I think I know there's a role out there

1253
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 5: that I can kill. You're great, by the way. I

1254
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 5: like watching you on screen. Oh thank you, brother. Send

1255
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 5: you in quite a few, yes, sir, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1256
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 5: I've seen you in quite a few really good on screen.

1257
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, to to do that. Yeah.

1258
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 6: In terms of recording, are you in a space where,

1259
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 6: because you do so much live work, are you in

1260
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 6: a space to where you even want to go to

1261
01:14:55,120 --> 01:15:00,440
Speaker 6: a studio and record or is this something that you.

1262
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 5: To old school? You need to I want to do that. Yeah,

1263
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 5: you need to. Just need it, it's needed. I want

1264
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 5: to That's what I want to.

1265
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 6: Capture, Hamilton on Final Yeah, I need that and that's

1266
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 6: what made me fall in love with music, that sound,

1267
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 6: you know, So to recapture that, I think that's the moment.

1268
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 5: Because you know, tracks are good, they're fine, right, you know,

1269
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 5: but there's nothing like having the energy from other people.

1270
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 5: It takes you somewhere. It takes you somewhere like I

1271
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 5: can be not feeling like singing. You know, you're in

1272
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 5: the studio, you have a couple of tracks, that's fine,

1273
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 5: But the minute that band crank up and they start

1274
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 5: plugging in instruments, you get, oh, it's a whole nother

1275
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 5: thing that comes and.

1276
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 6: The tone starts. You know, it takes you to another

1277
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 6: place and then and then people get the opportunity to experience,

1278
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 6: to experience the vamp that they don't get to experience.

1279
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 5: I'll talk about the vamp. People don't talk about that.

1280
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 6: They don't get to experienced the vamp. See everybody, there's

1281
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 6: there's the hook after the bridge. We got it, but

1282
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 6: there's another part called the vamp on that come on,

1283
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 6: and that's the part that can run anywhere from ten

1284
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 6: to forty minutes.

1285
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: Did you just.

1286
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 6: Shout out, Gill and I just say, when you know

1287
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 6: how to properly vamp. Yeah, And that's where you are

1288
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 6: great at. That's what Fantasia is great at. Like y'all

1289
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 6: are great at the vamp. People need the vamp that recorded.

1290
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 6: You need that. That's that's what sells it.

1291
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 5: The song is great, song is great, but when you

1292
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 5: vamp it and you sell them, you create the moment

1293
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 5: that that song was burned live. People fall in love

1294
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 5: with the song over again.

1295
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 6: The hit records are one thing, right, you guys sell

1296
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 6: you guys sell tickets because of your hit records, for sure. Yeah,

1297
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 6: but again, the experience after the hit record is, in

1298
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 6: my opinion, what people are buying in from from you specifically.

1299
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1300
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely, when I've seen Charlene and once I sung the songs,

1301
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 5: the lyrics that they know, my personal experience with it.

1302
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 5: When I'm vamping out on that, Oh, that's when I

1303
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 5: come to hear you know. Yeah, that's that's when it

1304
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 5: becomes something electrified. I come to hear the other bag.

1305
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 5: I left the stage on Charlene and went up in

1306
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 5: the audience and finished it in the audience. And I

1307
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 5: didn't go back to the to the stage. I left

1308
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 5: them right there. I finished it up in the in

1309
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 5: the in the stand. You said it up. Yeah, I

1310
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 5: went up. Yeah, I went up a little bit in

1311
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 5: the staff. I worked that night. Oh, I just worked

1312
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 5: something is only man all. It got ugly, It got

1313
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 5: real ugly. I heard of this. It ain't from it's

1314
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 5: another it's a smoky Yeah, it's a running and running

1315
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 5: through you, running all over. Yeah.

1316
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 6: I want to see that movie role. I want to

1317
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 6: see that on screen roll for you. I want to

1318
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 6: see that.

1319
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's out the old country boy what mm hmm, Southern.

1320
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 5: Just think about that, you know, and writing writing scripts

1321
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 5: and stuff like. I've been doing a lot of writing

1322
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 5: in terms of like movie content or show content. So

1323
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 5: I think that's it's something I'm stronger.

1324
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, okay, anything

1325
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 6: else you want to tell the telling people anything, tell

1326
01:18:59,400 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 6: the people for you.

1327
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 5: Keep streaming, keep buying, keep supporting. Thank you for coming

1328
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 5: to the shows, Thank you for supporting. H R be

1329
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 5: Money and and brothers like us. Tell them to stream again.

1330
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 5: Stream you don't just stream the young folk music.

1331
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 6: Stream hours stream hours two. We're here, hello, you know,

1332
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 6: tell us we don't stream. We do, we do, but

1333
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 6: we need we need youthful stream we do.

1334
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 5: We need a younger group, the younger demography. Stream our music.

1335
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: You know, you know you heard it, your mama playing it.

1336
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 6: Your mama is playing it, your auntie playing it. Yeah,

1337
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 6: just get into get into some of the good stuff, man,

1338
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 6: Absolutely get into some of the some of the music

1339
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 6: that's that's gonna feed your soul.

1340
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 5: You need it.

1341
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 6: Dancing around and jumping around, and and and and by

1342
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 6: saying all the hippie hot.

1343
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 5: They don't do it.

1344
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 8: We just needed a TikTok and Charlene, okay, Sean Lene.

1345
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 5: Best of me have been going crazy on TikTok. Yeah,

1346
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 5: oh when viral least two or three times and yeah,

1347
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 5: that one.

1348
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 6: Do you when you see the TikTok do you do it? Yeah,

1349
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 6: I've done a few participate, Yeah, yeah, I will come

1350
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 6: on not on the I think I did do the

1351
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 6: point of it all. I did that one my joint too.

1352
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 5: But Bobby and Izzy man yeah yeah, you know those

1353
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 5: are our brothers. Oh man. It was a soul for

1354
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 5: Mexican what I love them, easy my free.

1355
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1356
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 5: No, they not they they with us. They're going on

1357
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 5: they go.

1358
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 8: They're gonna they're going on that Christ and Usher tour.

1359
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, yeah, they yeah, they yeah, they planning, They planning.

1360
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 5: They better go. I'm going to.

1361
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 6: Somebody said take you open, and I said, I'm gonna

1362
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 6: either be outside of the stadium opening.

1363
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 5: Or hunting doing so much. Listen, I'm gonna have my

1364
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 5: own speakers, you know, and I might. That's gonna be

1365
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 5: a moment and a little DJ.

1366
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 6: We're gonna be right out front of the stadium where

1367
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 6: you buy your tickets.

1368
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 8: Speaking of two dancing niggas, you've been doing a lot

1369
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 8: of dancing, man, so I can't let you get out

1370
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 8: of here with you talk about your dance.

1371
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 5: Don't bother me, don't bother me. I have to don't

1372
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 5: bother me. Damn it.

1373
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: I have to.

1374
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 5: I have to because you've been going viral. I mean yeah,

1375
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 5: you know why because I do what I feel and

1376
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 5: I mean it. Yeah yeah. When it come out just

1377
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 5: like that. O Marion was like, yeah, I'll be seeing

1378
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 5: your moves. Yeah, don't start with me. Yeah, don't start

1379
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 5: with me. Just be freezing then serve that nigga man

1380
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 5: you boy, yeah yeah try it. Sure. I used to

1381
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 5: break dance back in the day. I got I still

1382
01:21:59,520 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 5: got some of the.

1383
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 6: Cook these frauds boy yo, I got it, son, I

1384
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 6: got I got it too, man, got it?

1385
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 5: Shut up? You don't got it. I got it.

1386
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 2: He don't.

1387
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 5: He got too buff is what he got. I can't

1388
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,879
Speaker 5: wave like no, I can't wave.

1389
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: That.

1390
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 5: Don't got to here. That's just hate from over there.

1391
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 5: You tick though, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Okay. You

1392
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 5: didn't like it. Lord, not a lord like it got

1393
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 5: up in here. Just got them. It's just too it

1394
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 5: was too solid. It's just all just think it's a

1395
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 5: whipping to get.

1396
01:22:38,720 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 6: You out of here. Like Elda Hamilton. People need some

1397
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 6: information from you, my brother.

1398
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 5: What is it that they need?

1399
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 6: The music that you have been listening to over time

1400
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 6: that have shaved and molded. Yes, the man that you

1401
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 6: are now you have been on a.

1402
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: Journey, Oh yes, I have.

1403
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 6: And that journey has brought you to R and B money.

1404
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 5: Yes, it has to let people know.

1405
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 9: Your top five, your top five, top five, your top

1406
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 9: five R and.

1407
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 7: B singers, R and B songs. William, we got to

1408
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 7: know before you go.

1409
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 6: There are nu shall everybody who wants to know me

1410
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 6: your top five?

1411
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 5: Yes, right, top.

1412
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 6: Fa f wow, he made a mad sad moment. Top

1413
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 6: five brother, Anthony Amas. Wow, your top five R and

1414
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 6: B sang.

1415
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 5: Us, top five R and B singer? Did a live

1416
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 5: or did orlive your world? Definitely? Jodosy, you're just gonna

1417
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 5: name them as one the whole group.

1418
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well okay, no, no, you can do that.

1419
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 5: You can do you can do that. I ain't know

1420
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 5: what the rules. That's the rule. The rulers is your rule.

1421
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 5: Jos ain't no damn rule. Go ahead, man, what you

1422
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 5: want singers?

1423
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 6: Okay, that's what joy one.

1424
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 5: I like what Michael Jackson brought to entertainment. Come on now,

1425
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 5: me too, Micha. Yeah, it's just it's just something totally different.

1426
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 5: Our green, our green. I'm about to say, I know

1427
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna say our green mm hmmm. I like Taja,

1428
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 5: come on now, we love Yeah, you're great, like the

1429
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 5: Jay Chicago kids, my brother, so many making Jasmine Sullivan.

1430
01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, your top ten. Yeah, moving it all up.

1431
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 5: Man said yeah, he said he actually five. Okay, So

1432
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 5: so Man, R and B. So I ain't got into

1433
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 5: the thick of the R and B. Kelly was a

1434
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 5: problem Top thirteen. I don't want to keep it going.

1435
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 5: I'm just letting you know I can count I graduated.

1436
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 5: I'm letting you know. I'm letting you know without letting

1437
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 5: you know you're good. R Kelly Okay, Jodesy, Fantasic, all Green,

1438
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 5: Aretha Franklin, Okay, Okay, okay, okay. So that's the five. Okay.

1439
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 5: I like that. I like that. I'm rolling. Yeah, there's

1440
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 5: so many Yeah yeah, you said so many too. Yeah. Yeah,

1441
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 5: because I'm a big fan of DiAngelo. Yeah, I said

1442
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 5: a lot of them. I know, I know, Shade, I

1443
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 5: know y'all want me off. I don't my time over. No,

1444
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 5: you can hang out you Sha, shadedn't keep me off,

1445
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 5: you know? Is that where we're going? I don't know

1446
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 5: nothing about he can't say saying his life. I love you.

1447
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 5: I think that.

1448
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 6: I think that he talked like, you know, army music,

1449
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 6: like the first song ever this what Don't you Know?

1450
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 5: Come too Far? That's definitely fa He could be singing

1451
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 5: going up but beyond.

1452
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 6: Definitely can say it got going up beyond.

1453
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 5: Him in the key of Paul but in the ship,

1454
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 5: I love you, Love your show man.

1455
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 6: Okay, your RB song Top what R and B Songs, Top.

1456
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 5: Top five Army song. I've got a new edition. Can

1457
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 5: you stand around? Why not? Yeah? Yeah, not forever? My

1458
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 5: lady life smoking cigarettes, a night with tweet knocking boost

1459
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 5: by h time. Yeah, that's you. I hear that. I

1460
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 5: hear that.

1461
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 6: Man.

1462
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown had a time man, a full error, full time.

1463
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 8: Rock with you, a freeway after him out here too

1464
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 8: like this he got to it's like a Bobby Brow like.

1465
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 5: Oh for real, Yeah, it's good, had Bobby, you got

1466
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 5: to come out always playing barbecue. So he was No.

1467
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 5: KP's talking about. It's a waffle house right there. Me

1468
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 5: and KP got a waffle house experience. I was a

1469
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 5: cook at the house.

1470
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 6: Oh man, you wanted to cook there that night? I

1471
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 6: should have been huh. We got up out of there.

1472
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 5: Needed a wing man. No, it was something else. I

1473
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 5: was flying in there. It was a flying roaching. Yeah,

1474
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 5: we had to get out of there. Oh wow, it

1475
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 5: was a good thing he didn't land on the grill.

1476
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 5: He might have already been real. Oh man, he was

1477
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 5: a cook at the photo tank. Hold on, yeah, I

1478
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 5: know you, I know you wanted to know. I cooked

1479
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 5: at the waffle house. Man, I was sixteen seventeen, was

1480
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,879
Speaker 5: taking this young lady. I was playing football and uh,

1481
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 5: I ended up meeting one of the cheerleaders. We became

1482
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 5: really cool. She come up there and sit with me.

1483
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 5: On my weekends, I worked double shifts because I was

1484
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: cooking scatter covered, smothered. You better believe it. Yeah, he

1485
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 5: was whipping it, whipping it. I had that. That's when

1486
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 5: they had the paper hats, like remember the hats like

1487
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 5: McDonald's have, like looked like a little little little sail boat. Yeah. Yeah,

1488
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 5: I was rocking to the side. Was she singing and cooking? Absolutely?

1489
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 5: I've always sang, even in the bottles. Yeah.

1490
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 6: I needed to experience that. Amazon on the grill.

1491
01:29:55,680 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 5: What I can cook? Yeah, I'll cook. Yeah, Oh yeah,

1492
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 5: I can cook. I like to cook. Give him way up.

1493
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 8: I gotta get away, cook to brother, he only want

1494
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 8: out here.

1495
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 5: Can't cook? You can't. You can't. I can't cook. You can't.

1496
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 6: I know what food is supposed to taste like?

1497
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 5: Cool? It taste like that.

1498
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 6: Listen, listen, you want to you I don't like it.

1499
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 6: You want a mean pancake? You want you want some

1500
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 6: mean scrambled eggs with all the fixings.

1501
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 5: You know that's the first teacher as a child. What's

1502
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 5: all the fixing andrambled eggs? Just cheese?

1503
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 6: You want.

1504
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 5: Cheese? Maybe? Just cheese? Cool?

1505
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 6: You want some turkey bacon cooked to perfection, Chris, that's me.

1506
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1507
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 5: That's important? Do you wan't.

1508
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 6: The cinnamon rolls from Trader Joe's warmed up?

1509
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: No?

1510
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 6: No, you try to cook those come you try to

1511
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 6: diminish my thing. Man, You put them. You gotta put

1512
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 6: them on the cookie sheet in the right the right dimensions.

1513
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 5: Because they so they don't stick together. I understand them saying.

1514
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 6: And then you got to keep an eye on them

1515
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 6: holes because you don't want them to be too soggy

1516
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 6: in the middle.

1517
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 5: That don't make them on the outside. Call them holes,

1518
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 5: don't make them sound better. I cook I cooked them holes.

1519
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 6: Asked my kids about my cinnamon rolls well world renown,

1520
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 6: second to none. And then how I glaze them things?

1521
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 5: What's that spot in the in the in the in

1522
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 5: the airport cinem roll spot for the cinema. They don't

1523
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 5: want it with me? Yes, they do. Should do a

1524
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 5: versus ship. I can see it now, Persa, you can

1525
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 5: see it now, ship real. I can get j D

1526
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 5: see J get.

1527
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: That is so great.

1528
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 6: I can cook. I just I just haven't had a

1529
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 6: lot of practice. I know what food is supposed to taste.

1530
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 6: I'm a connoisseur, fine diamond.

1531
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 5: I've seen Yeah, i've seen you out of.

1532
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 6: Trust trust me. I know I made some. It wasn't

1533
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 6: by myself. Let's make your R and B Vultron. How

1534
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 6: about we get out of that ganging up on tank.

1535
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 5: What's the one meal that you cooked all by yourself?

1536
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 5: He named it. That's it. That's it. That's a good start, though,

1537
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 5: that's a real good start. That's important. That's the first

1538
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 5: middle of the day. So therefore you had good intentions too,

1539
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 5: because you wanted them to start their day off right.

1540
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 5: You a good man. It's a good man.

1541
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 6: We're making your R and B Vultron fast as ship.

1542
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 6: We want to know who you're gonna get the vocal

1543
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 6: from performance style, styling, passion of the artist, and who's

1544
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 6: going to write for this artist one vocal of all

1545
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 6: time to build your super R and B artist. What

1546
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,480
Speaker 6: one vocal are you going to use? One vocal one?

1547
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna use Donne either way.

1548
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hard to beat it. It's a quilt.

1549
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 6: Layla was Layla's on the side. Layla said, I said,

1550
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 6: there are so many people in the Donnie clan that

1551
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 6: have just in a sense just gravitated to that tone.

1552
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,480
Speaker 6: And she was like, yes, but they don't have this pain.

1553
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 5: Said that part. Yeah. Mark Dorothy was a really super

1554
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 5: nice He was so dope. You know. P J. Morton

1555
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 5: has Donnie and a lot of.

1556
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 6: It's like that tone automatically says I can sing like

1557
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:06,440
Speaker 6: a motherfucker.

1558
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, without even trying.

1559
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 6: Without doing anything else. Yeah, just straight ahead. Yeah, yeah,

1560
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 6: that's a bad motherfucker. Eric Robertson, Yes, yes, he's dope.

1561
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,839
Speaker 5: It was. It was good to do that. Lessons remixed

1562
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 5: me him and rob him Devon and see Calvin uh

1563
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 5: is it Kevin Ross? No, No, not Kevin who No, no, no,

1564
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 5: Kevin Kevin Ross Yeah really yeah nasty. Yeah, be quick too,

1565
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 5: He's quick and you don't you don't see it coming? Yeah,

1566
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 5: because when he wrote his verse in center out like

1567
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 5: I'm listening to you, but.

1568
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, accurate too, it's writing sniper, Yeah, sniper.

1569
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 5: I think BJ has a I like BJ Chicago kid.

1570
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 5: I like his voice as well, of course, because you

1571
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 5: like yourself. Yeah, you and BJ.

1572
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 6: Your cousins, nigga, y'all got to be cousins to y'all

1573
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 6: in that soul string section r N.

1574
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 5: BJ is special.

1575
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 6: He's a special and he on the fly too. Yeah,

1576
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 6: don't matter what you put in front of Yeah, he

1577
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 6: ready to work. Yeah, okay, we got the vocal hm

1578
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 6: performance style.

1579
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 5: Me I goes to get it. The dancing machine, no, man,

1580
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 5: see Amy Design church over here? What church is at

1581
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 5: Elementary am Design? Yelemary, that's the kid's church. There's a

1582
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 5: nigga here.

1583
01:35:54,840 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 8: Take me when they're having a good time, dancing machine.

1584
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 5: So, uh you get it?

1585
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 6: No, yep, I'm not. Don't take that bad of them. Yes,

1586
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 6: Donnie you on stage, yes, sir. The styling of the artists, wow,

1587
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 6: Marvion Gay Yeah, you're putting together some nice ship. Yeah,

1588
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 6: putting together some nice ship.

1589
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 5: The passion of the artists. She's so sincere. I believe

1590
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 5: everywhere she says she. I mean, she's sincere. You can

1591
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 5: feel it. There's a rumor she may perform again, I hope.

1592
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 5: So I want to see that rare. Yeah, I want

1593
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 5: to see that she's rare.

1594
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 6: There are one of ones. We can name the one

1595
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 6: of ones, and she's one of one.

1596
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:45,839
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1597
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 6: I'm paying whatever that ticket is. Absolutely, and I'm going

1598
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 6: wherever it is. Yeah, I'm going to that too. And

1599
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 6: I don't even like to go places. You hate to

1600
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 6: go places, but I will pay it nowhere.

1601
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't where he lives his life

1602
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 5: like he's on the run. I mean, I mean you

1603
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 5: did talk about it with a lot of pimp talk. Yeah,

1604
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 5: I've had to change my name.

1605
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 6: Hold, it's just my life, man, huge, Your fast forward,

1606
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 6: man is good? Yeah, passion shot a last one. Who's

1607
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 6: writing for this artist?

1608
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 5: Babyface?

1609
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 4: Ah?

1610
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 5: You don't know if baby Face wrote, uh pray for me?

1611
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 5: So I had an idea. Sounds totally different. We were

1612
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 5: up at his house and Webb it snows a lot.

1613
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 5: Blake townlick talk. Yeah. The next morning he came in.

1614
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 5: It's totally changed the whole song to something great, like

1615
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 5: he's a bad I was like, I knew you could,

1616
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 5: but god talk.

1617
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 6: Oh yeah he's he's incredibled, like, yeah, disrespect me like that,

1618
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 6: He's incredible. He's done it all.

1619
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 5: I'm an running from your favoring face. You shouldn't have

1620
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 5: done that. Run up for you? How dare you make

1621
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 5: me be great? Great? Well? Yeah, yeah, absolutely great? Absolutely

1622
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 5: all right? Oh yeah, we got one more thing for you.

1623
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1624
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

1625
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 6: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name.

1626
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Was whe was weird? What you did?

1627
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 5: Don't say she? I ain't saying no name. I guess

1628
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 5: this is a messy hour. My favorite PARTI yeah, see

1629
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 5: how boy, I smell it. Yeah, I smelled a side

1630
01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 5: all of foolishness, smothering has This is a new thing. Now,

1631
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 5: this is the smother thing. Covet. You know you're trying

1632
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 5: to unsmother and put it out there. No, we're gonna

1633
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 5: smother it by not saying no names. Yeah, yeah, all right.

1634
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 8: My favorite part of the show will you tell us

1635
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 8: a story, funny or fucked up?

1636
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 5: Are funny and fucked up? Okay? Only rude to the gang.

1637
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Hamilton. Can't say no names, not a one, now one,

1638
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 5: oh man, tell a story.

1639
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 6: Or what funny?

1640
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 5: Are fucked up? Okay? Are funny and fucked up? I

1641
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 5: can't say no names. They say no name. That's the

1642
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 5: only rue. It was this one time I was at

1643
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 5: a performance. This particular artist love to go out and

1644
01:39:55,560 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 5: touch the people. And normally when they go out, he

1645
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 5: touched the people and they come back to the stage

1646
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 5: and it's, you know, beautiful thing. This particular time, they

1647
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 5: went out and they had to go out through one

1648
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 5: of the doors, which happened to be a fire escape,

1649
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 5: and it locked, so this particular artist couldn't get back

1650
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 5: to the stage to say good night, And so the

1651
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 5: band continued to play and play and play and play

1652
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 5: and play this one song for at least fifteen minutes.

1653
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 5: He was sucked up, sucked them funny outside, I love you. Yeah, yeah,

1654
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 5: so they had Yeah, they had to send him. They

1655
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 5: had to send him in boxes, telling me that he

1656
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 5: enjoyed the show man.

1657
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 6: I thought he was sweet too. Oh yeah, he just

1658
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 6: knew let me go get to him.

1659
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 5: He about to go get oh man, Sonny loved me.

1660
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 5: I just watched. I said, all right, show off, see

1661
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 5: how you get out of this Joe College. Somebody let

1662
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 5: me what my guess? We said, go ahead, bad? Did

1663
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 5: you see him tell that guy he wanted to put

1664
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 5: his his arm bad and batterle man, he said, he

1665
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 5: what is wrong with Mike? I just saw it. I

1666
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 5: saw him live.

1667
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 6: He says, the first thing that comes from his mind,

1668
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,480
Speaker 6: and it's absolutely and it's ridiculous.

1669
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 5: And it's ridiculous and I love it, he said. And

1670
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 5: he's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it, he said,

1671
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 5: doing a cartwheel. He's like, he's doing it. I gotta try.

1672
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 6: That. You gotta try yeah, Mike, Mike, I love. I

1673
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 6: love comedy period. He's absolutely incredible. Elder Hamilton, Uh, this

1674
01:41:58,120 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 6: has been a time.

1675
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, man's been a time. I've been watching you guys. Man,

1676
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 5: I really love what you're doing. We appreciate your time

1677
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 5: giving a platform to a lot of artists who probably.

1678
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 6: I just think we I just think our stories. These

1679
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 6: stories are important, man.

1680
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

1681
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 6: The the after effects, you know, the things that we

1682
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 6: get the show and we get to put the gloss

1683
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 6: on and all these things, and all of that is great,

1684
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 6: but the house and the wise that's.

1685
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 5: The most important part.

1686
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And so you know, we we appreciate you giving

1687
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 6: the people, you know, just a bit of that understanding

1688
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 6: of where it all comes from. Yeah, you know, it

1689
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 6: shows that you love you love this, you love what

1690
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 6: you do.

1691
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I was born to do it. Yeah, and it's

1692
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 5: it's it's been great. Oh, it's been great. It's getting better,

1693
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 5: getting better.

1694
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 6: I tell people the first ingredient, you gotta you better

1695
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 6: love it, because if you don't, you you're you're in

1696
01:42:59,120 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 6: for a hell of a ride.

1697
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 5: Oh. Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.

1698
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 6: Because that's the sustaining power.

1699
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 5: I tell my kids this all the time. It's like,

1700
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 5: sometimes it's not the best. The one who's the best

1701
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 5: is the one who's consistent, who can endure it and

1702
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 5: continue to do it and stay consistent with the same quality.

1703
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 5: Those are the ones who make it. I don't have

1704
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 5: nothing else.

1705
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 6: I just love to do this, whether I'm doing it

1706
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 6: free at somebody's church, yeah, or thank god, getting paid

1707
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 6: on somebody stage.

1708
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely. Yea.

1709
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 6: Just like you were singing at the waffle house, Yeah,

1710
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 6: I was singing in the huddle. Oh, let's read yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's.

1711
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 5: The count on?

1712
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 6: You're going on too own too, Let's get it. Yeah,

1713
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 6: I gotta sing and that shows like that shows and

1714
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 6: everything that you do. And and you know, another thing

1715
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 6: that I just want to highlight is just your imagery.

1716
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 6: You you how you represent yourself as a man in

1717
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 6: these places in your music, on these stages. You know,

1718
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 6: we celebrate the bullshit all the time. Yeah, we celebrate

1719
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 6: you know, people getting out of pocket all the time

1720
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 6: with all these things climb up high on the algorithm.

1721
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 5: But you know, men being good, men being good people

1722
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 5: prove things. Yeah, it's not always easy. It's not always easy.

1723
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 5: It's not you know, I've got six sons, so I

1724
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 5: want them to see an example of six son. Yeah six.

1725
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna get beat up if you mess with

1726
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 6: mister Hamilton for real.

1727
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,560
Speaker 5: She it might be hitting your knees because most of

1728
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 5: them short. Hey listen right in here, powers and numbers,

1729
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 5: you be knock kneed, you come out not need. But well,

1730
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 5: my younger three day, they're getting up there. I think

1731
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 5: they're gonna take out of my dad. Yeah eight and yeah,

1732
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 5: my youngest he's thirteen, he'll be he's five eight already.

1733
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 5: Any musical. Yeah, my oldest son was doing technoal trance

1734
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 5: up step. I think he's taking a break now. But

1735
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 5: I think the younger one of my twins. Are you twins, No, yeah,

1736
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 5: Aaron and Nolan fraternal. I wouldn't want the same kid

1737
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 5: looking the same some of them. One of them gonna

1738
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 5: get abused. I'm gonna get tired of him. What man,

1739
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I just said, I'm a good man. I'm

1740
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 5: a good man, said my image is good. But I'm

1741
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 5: gonna think you did it twice and so one of

1742
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 5: them gonna get I'm just gonna be honest. I don't

1743
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 5: want to keep doing them and it might not even

1744
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 5: be you, you brother, but so just gonna just save you,

1745
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 5: save my inmage, gotcha, gotcha, but don't do it. The

1746
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 5: Lord knew better like we Thank you, Thank you, thank you,

1747
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 5: the kids. We're coming through it, man, keep doing it,

1748
01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 5: and to keep doing.

1749
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 6: You're dope, brother. Yeah, man, we just needed a moment

1750
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 6: to keep your flying.

1751
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 5: Please keep going, man, Thank you, And we can't wait

1752
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 5: to hear that live album. We just said to Michelle

1753
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 5: live live live Man, Live from the Concord. Yeah mm hmm.

1754
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 5: South Africa would be a great place. They love me,

1755
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 5: so I tour that love just got back twice. Like

1756
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 5: how you said that they love they love me.

1757
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

1758
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 5: Get the police escort, whoa.

1759
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 6: You know what.

1760
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 5: I mean? It's r V Money. Yeah, hey man, you

1761
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 5: heard them.

1762
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 6: You heard them ladies and Gentlemeney mistake And this is

1763
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 6: the RMY Money podcast.

1764
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 5: The authority on all things R and.

1765
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 6: B, mister police escort himself.

1766
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 5: Thank you, appreciated man,