WEBVTT - Cool & Dre 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.960 R and B Money. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.120 Take Valoti. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:18.720 We are the authorities R and B ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.600 My name is Tank Valent time man, This Stormy Money podcast, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.520 the authority on all things R and B. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.960 This is there. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.200 There are there are records, and then there are hits. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:37.040 They are placements, and then there are singles. On speak, 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:43.720 there are producers and then there are super producers. These 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:50.600 are the lot of cool and yeah yeah, yeah yeah, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:51.200 we're here. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.959 Y'all missed us harmonized, that's behind the scene act. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.040 They might have to catch a lot. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:04.679 We got it. Listen, cool, I don't lie to you. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.320 We gotta do a little harm and it would tank. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.959 It listen he kids, or right now. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.760 We go see like come on now. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.440 First of all, man, you know your brothers is man, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.640 absolutely amazing. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:25.840 Bro. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.839 You know this is coming from you know, a musician, singer, 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.240 song writer, the artist since he was nine hanging out 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.360 with Michael Jackson. Like we we are people who know 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:41.040 and understand what in the fuck you guys are and 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.000 it is it is awesome to have you brothers here, man, 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:49.640 Like we we we family, but we we value your time, man, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.240 and we value your gift. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:51.520 Man. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.640 So this is important that you pulled up man, very expensive, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:03.080 very they got so many buildings, seventeen miles of ocean. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.640 People pull up to the destination and you know they 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.240 want to meet and greet two and you think you 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.840 can come and take some phellos with me? 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:19.520 Who I mean the longevity of it too is a thing, right, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.280 So I think maybe we just start at the very beginning, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.960 because it's like to become cool and dre right, where 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.360 does that start? Does that process start with you doing 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.680 something over here and going crazy, and you doing something 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.440 over here and going crazy, and then like, man, you're 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.040 going crazy over there, I'm going crazy? 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.120 What do you think about? Like, how does that even happen? 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.280 That's a good question. I mean I think it started first, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.080 you know, cool and I we met in high school 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.960 and we met in choir. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.520 So so this singing thing is different. It's real. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.880 Oh no, not nold on on. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.400 You can't even if it wasn't choiet, let's not disrespect 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:57.840 the class. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:58.720 He was there. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.440 This was vocal on sounds. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:08.600 So yeah, we were. We were in vocal ensemble, performance, choir, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.919 and choir. Like you know, like in my senior year, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.360 I had five music classes like you know what I'm saying, 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.640 going crazy with it. And we met in chorus and 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.240 the teacher, our teacher, miss A, she was. She left 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.560 an impression on us, like like a serious imprint on 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.800 us because a lot of the things we learned in class, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.959 we took that with us, like, you know, along the way, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.240 you know, from producing vocalists and whatnot, everything that she 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:41.760 taught us about breath control and sing from the diaphragm 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.240 and your head voice, your false set, all that shit 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.560 reading music, you know what I'm saying. So a lot 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.560 of the well, you know, we started an R and 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.480 B group. That's how we started making beats. We were 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.480 in an R and B group. We couldn't find any 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.080 producers that would do anything for us, and we couldn't 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.160 afford it. So me and Cool we just put some 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.840 money together and one of the guys from the the 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.720 group had started like a T shirt company with one 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.480 of our home boys, and we were just like, man, these 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.880 niggas starting their own ship. They're not even inviting, they 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.360 ain't even asked to be part of your little T 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.840 shirt company. Me and you, let's let's let's produce man, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.000 Let's teach you. Let's teach you how to produce. So 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.760 you know, that's how it started, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.400 And be a. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.400 Part where you said y'all was an R and B group. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.640 Yeah we we we made a new people. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:29.520 Yeah. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.560 Nah, people don't and then when they find out shout 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.240 out Seventh Street. And she might not remember this, but 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.120 she tried to test my arms. She tried to test 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:43.120 the club group Basic Unity. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.440 There's five thousand promo shots of us wearing karc Andi 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:55.080 jackets somewhere in Miami somebody's wall or somebody's. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.000 Just passing them joints out. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.919 We had a little team, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.960 And we were performing at all the high schools, and like, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.560 we made a name for ourselves locally at the same 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.040 time with DJs too, so you know, we're doing all 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.200 the Pirate stations. That's where we met Cayled back in 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.080 ninety six, you know what I'm saying. So we were 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.080 making a name for ourselves as DJs too, you know 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.320 what I'm saying. So we just made a conscious decision 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.280 to take music serious, and part of that was us 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.280 becoming producers. And you know, I think with me and Cool, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.479 we just we've been so tight for so long. We 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.719 know each other so well. We know when I know 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.560 when he's in the zone. Just let him cook, you 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.120 know what I'm saying. And if I hear something he's doing, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.160 I get an idea, I'll tell him and he'd be like, well, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.440 come come fuck with it, or like I hated I 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.039 love it, like you know, we're going right into the hits. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.880 Yeah a choice, Yeah right, it's just so many, you know, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.719 so like I hate it on love the other dogs 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.760 on top, like with that, you know, cool with leave 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.320 whatever he was working on on the NP. See, he 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.280 would leave it up and we were in his mom's. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.880 Garage shout out to the old. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.880 Yeah, I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. So one 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.880 day I'll pull up. He's not there, and I go 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.640 to our studio and I just pressed play on NPC 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.039 and it's the hate of the love It beat. But 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.080 I heard it. I heard the flip, the sample flip 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.280 a little different than how Cool had it because I 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.520 was just listening to the black album had just dropped, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.400 and that ourcore record was just like so special, just 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.600 the way that that John Legend was singing and flowing 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.200 on that the way that it was just you know 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:36.800 it was. I listened to it for like an hour 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:41.680 outside his mom's crib, so I had that in my brain. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.640 So when I pressed play, I was hearing that the 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.560 way that I was listening to our core. So I 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:49.960 just chopped it up a little bit and then he 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.680 came back. He was like, oh, yeah, that's dope, and 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.960 he put the high hat sample on it. So sometimes 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.920 it just happens that way. Sometimes cool cook the whole 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.000 shit and and I'll just come in and a reference 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.520 like a single chorus, a single hook and whatnot. When 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.480 we when we send the record out or when we're 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.440 working with artists. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.840 And the somethings of magic. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.880 Some things of magic as well, Like like when Dre 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.080 started vibing out, I walked in and I was like, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:18.680 you know, I used to I used to There was 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.240 this thing I used to like do We always had 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.760 the turntables set up and we just had a wall 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.200 of records with samples and ship and I used to 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.440 always like to like put the put the turntables on 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.240 so we can hear them live, and while the beat 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.280 is going, I would drop the needle somewhere right just 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.040 randomly dropped the needle and then when the music the 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.960 sample would come in, it would come in on us 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.560 such a different timing that you don't even recognize, you 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:52.080 know what I'm saying, bring it back, but it's completely 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.239 you never recognize. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:54.920 That it's there, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.360 So this particular time I dropped it and that the 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.000 signature I had came on, I said, Yo, sample this 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.200 and we put this the high hat in there, which 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:04.880 ended up being a signature. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.880 Yeah, the head give it that sids are listening. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.720 This is this is what you're doing right now is 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.680 a master class because people aren't thinking like that when 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:16.680 they're sampling records. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.920 Nah, when you sample, you know you you're going through this. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.280 This is like drop the needle. Wear it drops. Sometimes 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.320 you get magic, sometimes you don't. But I used to 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.480 be like, drop and then it will be a. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:26.840 Segment of. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:28.840 Vocal. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.880 Oh yo, but it's not like we're searching. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:39.000 Just call it the random the randomizer, you know what 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:39.439 I'm saying. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.240 Let's see what Let's see what happens. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.160 But I used to I used to love doing that 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.319 because we'll have beats playing and then you're not You're 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.560 gonna get always gonna get something different when you drop it. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.000 Sometimes you getting you ain't getting nothing, But you know 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.800 how you're searching for us for a certain songs. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.280 It's a different kind of inspiration when it's out of 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.320 that random, magic, calculated. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.920 And when it comes in on key it's really crazy. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.160 Yeah, it's meant sliding. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:05.960 In there, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.520 Or we would use it as inspiration for like a hook, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.840 you know what I'm saying, and then Joy be like, yo, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.640 let me let me pop a hook on there, and 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.440 at that point you just it inspired to create an 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:16.679 original element, you know what I mean. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:21.160 So so take us from basic unity having to do 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.920 your own beats. Now you're DJs making a name for 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.120 yourselves as DJs. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.079 You're killing all the parties. How do you get to a. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:34.280 Point to where anybody in that professional space recognizes that 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.160 y'all got some shit going on and they need to 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:36.439 be a. 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.160 Part of I think our first sign was when we 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.400 were still in the group, when we went to Atlanta, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.560 UH to try to get in front of La Read. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.079 At that time, the Face Records was you know the 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:56.720 dream you're an artist, musician, producer the Face Records is 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.720 that's the destination. You know what I'm saying. I don't 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.800 care what you're doing, singing, rapping whatever. They had Goodie 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:09.559 Mob outcast, Tony Braxton, Ussher, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.040 They had as Yet, you know what I'm saying, And 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.200 they had they had Babyface over there. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.360 Writing songs right and Babyface office was on one end 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:23.640 of the building. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:30.720 And so I found out, like, you know, somebody in 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.440 my family worked at Face and she had like a 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.880 big position. So we we just went up there on 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.439 faith Man. We went to Atlanta and just started hustling 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.080 and finally got in contact with her and she had 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.040 us come up to the office and we just pressed 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.600 play on the music we was recording, and we sang 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.840 live for and she was like, you know who you 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.800 need to sing for. You need to sing for Organized Noise, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.400 Rico Wade. So me and Cool was just like ecstatic 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:01.240 because it was their music that really gave us the 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.360 confidence to really believe in what we was doing. Because 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.720 we were using a lot of live elements along with 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:12.000 samples Cool was cutting. They were doing everything that we 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.200 felt hip hop should sound like. So to get the 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.480 opportunity to sing in front of him was like, oh shit, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.480 here we go. So we did that, and I'll never 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.040 forget every beat, every record he heard. He kept saying 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.520 who did the beat? And me and cool like we 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.000 did it, and then after that who did the beat? 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.600 So at the end he was like, man, y'all good 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.960 that this and that he goes y'all niggas sek to 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.079 do what y'all? Keep doing? What y'all doing? You know 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.880 what I'm saying. That shit gonna work out for y'all. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.240 So that was like a huge indication because you know, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.880 like to be able to like the people you idolize 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.560 give you that fucking that thumbs up, like yo, y'all 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.960 doing the right thing, don't stop. Was our first indication 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.679 that and it was a big one for us. Now 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.920 we worshiped Dungeon family. Anything that niggas put out, even 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.600 if it was not hitting, we didn't care, like we 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.160 was champion and they ship. So we took that energy, 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.320 came back home and went even harder. And plus we 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.280 had made a name for ourselves with the beats here 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.800 locally with like all the independent record companies, right, so 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.520 you know, paper bag, oh. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.400 Man, oh, man, that's not just the song. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.760 Man. Let me tell you something, oh man. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.640 With the original brown paper bag boy. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.439 So like you know, young nineteen twenty years old got 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.320 the condo over Biscay Bay when I was getting to it. Now, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.680 the way the Miami Heat players lived, you know, we 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.720 in there these niggas is like, who are these guys records? 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.160 No, you have no replacements. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:48.720 Replace. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.559 This is called you know, artists finding our beat CD 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.360 and in one of their friends cars and just like yo, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.280 we used to put the beats and we used to 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.080 put our number on there be like, man, what is that? 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.800 Let me get some who beats? 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:03.320 Who beats? 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:03.600 Then? 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:09.040 And then we had like consistent clientele, like guys that 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.360 was in the street doing their thing, you know what 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.080 I'm saying. Would would would? 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:13.439 You know? 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.200 That's how we learned business too. You know a lot 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.760 of bad habits, but good you know, good game. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.680 We picked up from you know, just selling ya street 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.000 beats for like back then. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.400 It was like five hundred and seven hundred thousand, you 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:25.960 know what I'm saying. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.679 But we was offering them bitches, moving theuckers. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.920 And that's when the btds had thirty two tracks. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.079 What tied. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.560 Got the bag right here, twenty thousand for thirty two. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.719 So we was doing our thing, but you know, we 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.439 were blessed. I think what what took us to the 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.920 next level? Uh. We have a mutual friend with Fat Joe, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.800 our man Rob and and he was like, Yo, Joe's 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.439 working on a new album and he's looking for some 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.480 down South beats. And I told him, Yo, I know 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.080 some guys that you know, they are on fire in Miami. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.640 So he was like, Yo, don't give him none of 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.640 the hip hop shit. You know that y'all be doing. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.120 Give him some down South shit. So it was how 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:08.959 many beats on there? 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.560 Thirty thirty two, So that used to be my lucky number. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:12.559 Everything gets thirty two. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:17.959 So thirty two we put thirty one straight down South 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.280 type beats for what it sounded like back then. And 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.680 we's like, yeah, we got puke one one hardcore like 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.760 the shit, you know what I'm saying. So the very 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.920 last beat was like some straight East Coast you know 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.960 what I'm saying, New York type shit. So the story 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.760 is Joe's on his tour bus and they're listening in 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.320 their car in Orlando and he's going through the CD 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.680 and he's just skipping, skipping, skipping, skipping, and the last 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.400 beat comes on and he's like, there's no way the 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.240 same niggas who did the right It's impossible. I gotta 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.360 go meet them niggas because this is my favorite beat 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:56.920 of all time. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:57.240 Yeah. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.320 So he comes down and. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.720 We I remember that we got the call first, so 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.760 our man, it was like, yo, Joe wants to speak 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.080 to y'all. So Joe gets on the phone and it's like, y'all, 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.240 this is my favorite beat of all time. Gosh, this 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.240 beat on here is my favorite beat I've ever heard 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.800 in my life. He's like, in fact, it's it's such 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.840 an amazing meat that I want to record it in Miami. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.880 I want you to come to the studio because that's 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.280 I want to meet y'all. I want to meet the 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.520 guys who did this beat. And then he and we 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.600 were already doing mad Ship with call it, you know 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.280 what I'm saying, like underground radio, and Joe comes in 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.520 the studio and we come in and you know, we 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.120 meet Joe for the first time, and Cali walks in 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.600 and goes, these are my guys, Cool and Dre I've 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:44.040 been telling you. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.480 About, you know, just like. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.720 Themiah. He's seeing the connection with us and Cal He's 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.640 like you know that, and he's like, what do you mean? 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.920 These are my guy? In fact, they was the only 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.160 niggas not hating on me when I came out here. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.760 They actually like gave me opportunity, you know what I mean. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.480 So it worked out like super perfect, and then from 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.520 there I think we got even closer. He had an 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.880 R and B artist, Tony Sunshine at the time, and 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.760 shout out to Tony I talking him today and he 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.920 was like, Yo, your niggas know how to do R 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.080 and B And We're like, yo, we was R and 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:22.000 B singers, right, yeah, singer. So we were like, yeah, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.680 we could do that. So we started working with Tony 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.360 Sunshine and then we did this one record that was 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.520 dedicated to Big Pun and it felt like I believe 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.880 I could fly. It was that chord structure. It felt 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.480 like you know that chamber and you know. We we 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.560 recorded our saying the whole ship, and then we sent 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.880 it to Joe and he was just it just like 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.480 blew him away. He's like, I didn't know you niggas 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.000 could do all of this, y'all. I gotta come to 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.560 New York, So he flew us up to New York, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:57.280 and then we spent a good four years, like you know, tussling. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.760 What we would do is we would we would we 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.400 We had to be in the studio with Joe A 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:08.040 by seven o'clock, so all day, all morning, all day, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.119 we would cook up, cook up, cook up, cook up, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.320 cook up, cook up. Go see Joe play like twenty 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.560 new beats whatever he wasn't fucking with. The next morning, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.719 we was hitting every studio, every record company, boom boom bom, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.080 boom boom, passing out the shit he didn't picked, cooking 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.440 up another twenty new beats, going to the studio the 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.080 next night with twenty more new beats, like we just 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.399 kept We was just not the only shit we was 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:35.119 doing was probably playing GTA and fucking cooking up like 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:40.480 non stop and that ship. You know, the volume of 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.680 beats who was doing and the fact that we was 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.520 from Miami making them type of beats. We made a 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.760 name for ourselves, Like in the city, even before we 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.560 had a hit or anything, people were like, yo, coolan 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.680 Dre's the next this and the next that, this and that, 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:53.199 this and that. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:54.119 So. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:57.000 This is that type of. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.320 Yeah, you know what I'm saying, man, like that the 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:06.159 footwork hustle is different than than the thumb, than the 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:11.119 thumb hustle off email, It's so different because you had 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.800 to have a different type of hunger, fire and desire 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.480 to cook up twenty. Go play the twenty. Okay, cool, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.399 we still got fifteen left. You only pick five. Go 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.440 hustle the fifteen. Make another twenty nigga. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.120 Like every day four years straight. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.159 And remember this is like so, so we had an 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.560 eight o'clock session, Me and Dre would be like, yo, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.239 we want to get in earlier to cook up. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:35.479 So we get we did. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.560 We'd at one o'clock. Cause you know, it's not like 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.200 now you just pull up your laptop and make ten beats. No, 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:46.000 this is like we had an equipment set up, our MPC, yeah, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:46.840 the keyboard. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.720 We had to go to the studio to produce these 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:50.960 these these beats. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.280 So we was getting there ahead of time, cooking up 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.520 for hours, food coming back. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.399 Joe gets there, were playing the vibes. Joe's like that one, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.760 that one, that one. The rest. 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.679 The next day, like Jay said, we hustling them up, 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.240 like yo, all the A and r's we're pulling up 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.040 like we went from an RS, we met A and RS. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.840 They were like cooling who and then and then a 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.480 couple of weeks later, Yo, where y'all I need I 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:16.119 need a batch. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.400 So what's your first placement? Do you remember? Yeah? 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.920 It was it was it was a combination. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.119 It was nineteen and the nineteen ninety nine it was 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.680 Fat Joe King of New York featuring Bougiamon Tyan And 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.600 then we had the two j T Money. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:29.560 Yeah, we had placement. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.080 So we had two on the JT Money album? 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:37.880 Was he on Atlantic? 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.400 We had that big song, Yeah, it just came off. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.000 So we had two records on the album called Blood 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.320 Sweating Blood Sweating Years or something. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.719 Like that, and we did two records. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.200 We grew up listening to JT Money. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:52.600 Yeah, so it was. 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:53.600 It was a big deal for. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.320 Us to work with them. Absolutely, so simultaneous go three placements. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:01.040 But Joe, I remember we went in New York when 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.640 the album dropped and I remember phone Flex, Remember when 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:04.880 her phone Flex playing. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:05.560 It was the first. 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.160 We always say, yo, if you got the album opener, 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.119 it's a big deal because you set in the tone 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:14.679 the rest of the album. That opener, that middle record 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.240 and then that outro you're sitting you know what I'm saying, like, 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.639 those are important records, and I remember us being in 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.639 the car and for Master Flex dropping bombs on that. 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:23.440 There. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.520 It was like, you know it was charging at this point. 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:27.760 Oh no, it was. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.480 It was it was still for the law, but we 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:31.199 were just appreciative. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.359 Yeah, at the end of the day, it was I 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.280 remember it was we we got fifteen hundred dollars for 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:41.280 that beat, right, And when we started working with Tony Sunshine, 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:43.959 Joe was like, YO, so how much y'all charging now? 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.280 And it's like whatever, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.879 it's whatever, Joe, He's like, all right, y'all charge in 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:53.959 fifteen thousand. Now, we called our attorney, call our manager 0:20:54.000 --> 0:21:01.720 and said, yo, new price alert because back then, you know, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.480 when a major artist, and you know, Joe's a major artist. 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.160 Once the label paid that fifteen thousand, that's the going 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.560 fifteen bands, Like you know what I'm saying. So you know, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.280 got a credit Joe too for that. You know what 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.359 I'm saying. But what you was this that's O one 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.080 oh two, two thousand and two. 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:22.840 That's a good number for that time. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:25.840 Well, you know, that's why you gotta That's why you 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.159 gotta salute. You gotta salute the icons. You know what 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.399 I'm saying. I was having a conversation with some some 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.440 young producers at the studio the other night, and I 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.399 was like, Man, it's a different it's a different game now, 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:43.520 like you know, coming up for me and cool. If 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:48.800 you would have had two or three consecutive hits back 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.160 to back to back, you could go make some real money, 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.960 real money, because you could go That's what happened. 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:55.920 We run. 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.560 Yeah, we had New York for job Rule and then 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.560 for months later hated I love it and the whole 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.680 the whole energy surrounded all the artists involved on those 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.520 records and what it did. That's it's a historic you 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.440 know what I'm saying. It's a it's a moment in 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.600 the culture. So we're blessed to even be a part 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:16.840 of that. 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:17.600 Right. 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:21.119 So we were able to take that energy and go 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.399 hard and make a lot of hit records and a 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.040 lot of great album records and put ourselves in a 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:31.520 position to get seventy five thousand dollars for a beat, 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.160 you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you catch the motherfucker 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.240 for a hundred because you don't even know where they are. 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:37.840 They're big pop artists. They want you to do a 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:41.159 remakes or something because we on fire. Let see if 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.359 you get a hundred. But that only could happen because 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:59.400 Timberland was getting to fifty. So you know, in your place. Yeah, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.880 and no matter how big, and no matter how hot 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.800 we get or whatnot, you know, we respect the icons, 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.080 you know what I'm saying. And you know that's why 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.680 you sit down and you say thank you for real 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.840 for getting two hundred and fifty thousand a beat or 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.679 whatever at that time, you know, because it allows us 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:19.960 to say, I, yo, shit, you giving them that. You 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.080 know what I'm saying, We madd at seventy five, you 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:23.520 get four for what you're paying for one. 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:23.720 You know. 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:26.840 So we used to be getting four or five records 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.639 on albums at a time because that was the jug, right, 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.840 So you know. So I'm telling these young guys at 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.720 the studio, I'm just like, man, it's different for y'all, 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:41.280 you know because nowadays, when you look at the credit 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:47.919 the credits, it's twelve thirteen names, yeah, in that producer section, bro, 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:54.600 And it's like, man, it's hard to shine and collaboration 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.720 is amazing. I love it, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.440 I think collaboration is great. We've collaborated, what I'm saying, 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.400 in the past five seven years, we've collaborated with producers 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.840 more than we ever had. You know, we come from 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.680 you know, we come from an era where the guys 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:18.320 that were at the top we're still talking about today. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.679 Like you know what I'm saying, these guys are like different, 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.680 Like you know, when the Neptunes went on their run, 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.120 it was a different type of run, Like you've never 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.720 seen nothing like that. Like you know, I can remember 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.080 me cool, just like we had to come up when 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:38.840 in two thousand and one when fucking Pharrell had Britney Spare, well, 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:43.720 let me respect, the Neptunes had Britney Spears. I'm a 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:49.399 slave with an in sync fucking girlfriend record and the 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.320 Nori super. 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:54.080 Like. 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.160 It's just it's just like, you know, if that's if 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.560 that's the person that's set in the standards and you 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.040 respect the craft and you're trying to be great, you 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.560 got to really work hard to even you know, get 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.200 into that same space, you know what I'm saying. And 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.840 so but these kids now, man, it's like it's ten 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.000 motherfuckers on the record. I ain't saying nothing wrong with it, 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.320 you know what I'm saying. It is what it is. 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.840 But you don't you don't really know who to call facts. 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.080 You know, it's so much and and but there's more, 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.120 there's more avenues now because you know, as a producer 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.320 you can go really put together, craft the album and 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.720 create your artist page on Spotify and go hard, you 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.800 know what I'm saying. And there's there's guys like today 0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:41.000 that that like, you know, like I appreciate what they're 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.960 doing in in the culture, Like I really appreciate what 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.240 someone like a metro Booming is doing, Like I that 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:53.480 is very that feels very what's the word. 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:55.000 Like? 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.520 I know what that feels like me? Like when I 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.800 watch that, I'm like I can resonate with what he's doing. 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:04.159 That feels like it comes from the lineage, you know 0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.960 what I'm saying. Just in today's time, he's doing everything 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.760 possible to touch the culture, you know, and doing it 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:14.240 in a creative way, you know what I mean. So 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.240 not to say that there aren't producers that's you know, 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:20.280 really killing shit, you know what I mean, Because there 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.160 are it's just a different time. 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.880 It's just like you guys came up in a time 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.240 where as we all came up in a time where 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.879 identity was a thing, right, and so you wanted to 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.880 be identified as a certain thing so that people knew 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.719 exactly who to call for what, and and we all 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.600 love the collaborations. And I say the same thing the artists, 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.880 right when artists are like, man, I got this joint, 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.400 I'm telling you, if I get Drake on, this is over. 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.040 And I'm like, well, if you get Drake on it, 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.879 it's no longer your song, and every time you come 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.119 out on stage, they're going to be looking for Drake. 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.520 I said, But if you can just sustainablish your identity 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.480 first first, even if it's mid don't matter. 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.199 You're can establish you that that. 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.120 Like the young kid right now that got the record 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.800 for Beats, you know what I'm saying. He got the 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:14.840 record and Drake ended up hopping on a remix, but 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.600 that record was already established as a four best record, 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.200 you know what I'm saying. And the record is incredible, 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.840 and now Drake's on it. Cool, Now it takes it. 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.920 Now we go to the level, to the next level. 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.120 But he established that record by himself. He didn't wait 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.760 hoping he'd get a feature. 0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.480 Right feature king to him, I'm jumping on that. 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.840 He was building. They saw him building a house that man, 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.720 I want a room in there, you know, I need 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.719 a floor in there? Can I can? 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.240 I get involved? And so it's like we still have 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:49.040 to maintain we still have to maintain that conversation with 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.119 these young artists and these young producers and this listen, 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.000 build your thing so that they have to come to 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.720 you to get that that They got to come to 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:05.600 that visuality as well though. And it's carving out your space, right. 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.600 It's like it's like anything, you know, people send us music, 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.400 people send you guys music all the time. I don't 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.879 want to hear what I've already heard. I just don't 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.840 I get that from them. And that's cool that you 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.240 sound like such and such, But what about sounding like you? 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.199 Even if that sound people may frown upon it at 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.679 one point, you know what I mean? But establish who 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.200 you are. Like I love when someone comes with a 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:32.480 refreshing new voice. 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:37.080 Oh give you on Friday. 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.880 You know what I'm saying, Like Daniel Caesar, like those 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:46.520 guys sound like themselves. You know what I'm saying, khalive, 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.200 you know what I mean, Like these these guys sound 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.360 like themselves, Like I don't want to hear fifty seven 0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:54.240 Chris Browns. 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:55.960 Y'all not him. 0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:00.920 Bro, can't flip from the top rop that's different. But 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.360 they all want to because they think he's the cheat 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:07.280 code and that's cool. And I'm sure I'm going to 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.040 ask him next time. I'm like, you're tired of this ship, 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.520 a little bit tired this shit, man, Don't have me 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.080 just be out here thinking like I'm just the one 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.480 of the only one tired of here fake Chris Browns. 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:19.760 But it's a great reference. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.600 It's become a it's become like an epidemic of it. 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:31.080 Like it's like, bro, like be you, because as you 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:36.080 get people to buy into you, they continue to push 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.640 you up because they tell somebody about you. Have you 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.680 heard such and such? Yo, his voice is crazy or 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:43.720 I don't really get it all the way, but I 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.640 feel it. And this is same thing with the music, 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.840 same thing, same thing with the production side of it. Yes, 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.320 you can get on the radio by sounding like somebody 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.400 else's song, but it's another thing to have a sound. 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.720 It's another thing to have a sound. What is what 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:02.400 is the first hit record? 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.400 The first hit was it was New York, New York, 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.600 and we knew it because we was we were living 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.640 in New York at that time, so a lot of 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.040 records that we did that were like album fillers would 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.480 get played in the mix. So we got hot that 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.240 way too, like you know, so shout out all the 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.080 DJs definitely that that have always like rinsed our records, 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.720 even though even if they weren't singles, you know what 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.880 I'm saying. But I can remember we were in l 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.160 a for like the first time, and we was at 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:37.800 the mandre back when the Mandre yea to the skybar. 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.320 And the only reason me Cool could get in that 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.320 bitch is because we're staying at the hotel. The hotel 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.280 because that them people was gonna let us in that 0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.520 other way, right, So we in there and were chilling 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.200 and you know it got the models and whatnot mean cool. 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.720 We like, yo, this is five and out of nowhere, 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.080 they put New York on the DJ New York and 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.320 the whole crowd start singing at me cool, like they 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.240 know this shit. They thought it was just a New 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.600 York record and it wasn't you know what I'm saying, 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.440 and that was the first time like we were like okay. 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.720 And what was dope was when when we did that record. 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:20.720 You know, it was originally a beat we gave the 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.240 Joe and you know it was it was a different 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.560 sounding type of beat. At that time, it wasn't too 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.560 many records or beats that felt like that. Everybody was 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:31.520 still like doing a lot of soul flips and whatnot. 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.720 And Joe was like, I like this, man, but it's 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:36.640 it's different. And we kept trying to press him like 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.720 we recorded this, I'm telling you it's that shit, and 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.280 he's like, nah, y'all could go ahead and play for 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.800 somebody else. Was like, all right, cool. So Joe Rule 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.480 and IRV and all of them are down here working 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.400 on the album. So I go over there and I 0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.440 pressed play on the beat and IRV loses it. He's like, Yo, 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.640 this shit is crazy. Yo, But dre put one of 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.360 them hooks you'd be doing, man, put a hook on there. 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.880 So I go back to the spot we was using 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:01.360 at the time. 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.920 Remember joh, I mean Jada kiss had to be I 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.400 didn't know the Jada kiss. 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.360 After Joe said, y'all, now, y'all go ahead and Andy, 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.080 y'all go ahead and and get you know what I'm saying, 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.440 send it to other people. First person I said it 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.320 was Jada because we had been talking. I'm like, yo, Jada, 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.760 I sent you a vibe and Jada's like, yo, son, 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:20.400 this is crazy. 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:21.720 I messed with it all right? 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.360 Cool, So I didn't know nothing. 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.160 I'm like, you know, cause people get beats, they say yo, 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:27.240 I'm with it. 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.720 And so I'm a type of person I don't like 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.840 to mention ship unless it's done, you know what I'm saying. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.280 So that was one of those that I didn't even mentioned. 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:36.560 I'm like, could we get that all the time? 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:36.800 Right? 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:43.800 So we're at the studio right, and Dre's like, y'all, 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.719 I'm put a hook on this vibe so I'll never 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.200 forget it. I'm laying on the couch right because that's 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.560 what we're just vibing up in the studio in the garage, 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.280 and Dre got the beat going on NPC and he's like, 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:59.240 and I just started mumbling A hundreds two hundred clips 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.880 and from New York and I had it to New 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.120 York because there was a KRS one hook that popped in. 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.200 My head's like, hold on, what's that. I'm like, oh, 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.080 that's a k RS one vibe. He was like singing 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.880 again and J was like, and Drake came. 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.600 With the I got clips Nigga from New York and 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.440 I finished off the whole ship after and. 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.800 Then we go to the Hit Factory. Go to the 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.960 Hit Factory. We dre sings that he goes. 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:26.680 J was like, y'all got a hook idea and her 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.400 was like, yo, go later, go later. Reference J goes 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.600 in there and lays it down, Joy walks and he was. 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.360 Like, yo, what is this? 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.520 And it was history from that. So the crazy thing 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.920 is he's like, yo, I know just who to get 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.600 on this. Who was the first part he said Nas. 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.400 First was like yo. Before he said that, he's like, Yo, 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.480 I know I'm gonna put on this. We're gonna put 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.160 I'm gonna I'm gonna put Joe Crack and Nas. And 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:53.520 then when he said Joe Cracker was. 0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.080 I know you're gonna give us pressure over It was. 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:05.160 IRV calls Joe and he's like, yo, man, your guys 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.040 came over here and gave us one this and that. 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.400 He's like, listen to this ship and he's playing it 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.879 and all you hear through the phone is that's my beat. 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:14.839 That's my beat. 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:16.520 That's my beat. 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:18.960 So I get the phone. He's like, yo, Drake, why 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.960 are you giving niggas my beat? That's my beat? I said, yo, bro, 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.000 you said you ain't want to beat no more. But yeah, 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.200 but and it had that hook on it. Nigga put 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.200 that hook on it, so you know, it was all loved. 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.799 Joe was like, all right, cool, and then IRV tried 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.720 to get Nas, but Nas is like out the country 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.920 or something at the time, so he's like, man, you know, 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.319 Noa's out the country. I know exactly who I'm I'm 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.000 gonna put Jada Kiss on it, and then cool. It 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.480 was like, oh I forgot about it, so I had 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:45.279 to be had. 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:47.440 But Jada was cool. 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.239 He's like, I saw good, I ain't cut it yet, 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.279 blah blah blah. So when IRV hit him, it's just 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.720 crazy that all. 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:57.440 The it's just you can't even make the shut up. 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.360 So on the reference track, just warming up, I was like, 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.400 this is this is I'm just warming my voice up. 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:04.480 And so when it was time to mix it, I 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.319 was selling to engineer, Yo, you could cut that shit off, 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.200 like that's just me doing a reference. It was like, nah, yo, 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.239 that shit is dope as fun. 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.320 Not leave that ship first produce. 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.319 A tag, yeah, and when we shoot the video draw 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:15.960 I want you in there, man, do your thing. Let 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.879 him know, And then it ended up being a tag 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.479 like you know what I'm saying, So, you know, shout 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.759 out to Earth for that. But you know that's how 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.920 that that record came. And then the crazy shit is 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.440 like four months later that record is still doing his thing, 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:34.040 but at the same time it's creating. It's creating like tension. 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:34.600 In the city. 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.160 Yeah, because you know at that time, you know, Job 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.680 was in a space where you know, people were really 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.640 really counting him out, you know what I'm saying. And 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.280 you can't blame him because you know, fifty cent dropped 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:51.040 this classic album, right that was just like you know, yeah, 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.319 it's a classic, right, So people were really counting them out. 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.160 So this song was just like it gave him new 0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.960 life and it was just the hottest record of the summer, 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.799 and so it created at tension, these guys all start 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.239 beefing with each other out of nowhere, you know what 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.799 I'm saying, and then hated the love it comes out 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:13.839 with had y'all already done, It had already been done, 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.879 you already recorded that. We didn't even know. We didn't 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.000 know it sounded like until the album drop Man, we heard. 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.719 That we didn't put it this. So we got a 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.840 call like, Yo, y'all got a placement on on Games album? 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.720 Y'all know what beats? 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:30.279 It was? 0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:31.200 Ship. 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.160 They're like, yo, y'all got a placement, give us your attorney, 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.560 blah blah blah. Like, Yo, we got a placement on 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.000 on this game. I'm just like a word, that's what's up? 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:39.160 BLA. 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.600 I didn't even know what beat it was. A week 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.480 and a half later, I'm in the car and I 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.879 hear the damn song you hated Love It on the radio. 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.480 On the radio, dog, I called Dre, So now I 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:51.040 know the beat. 0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:54.000 This ship is on the radio. 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:59.920 So they've done the business for it. Everything shit that record. 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:04.839 That record. Remember the story I told you about going 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.760 to fifteen thousand dollars a beat. 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:07.279 As a Joe. 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.520 That record is the reason that we started getting four 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.839 points off rip on every record we produced. Because they 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.640 put the album out, they didn't do no business. Our 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.840 attorney was trying to get the business done before the 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.279 album dropped, and she kept telling them like, yo, y'all 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.399 can't put the album out. Y'all ain't even do the business. Yeah, 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.120 this ship came out. She's like, Okay, now I'm gonna 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.799 get you four points forty thou it got. 0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:33.640 What happened was the song got leaked, you know what 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.360 I'm saying. And before that, the right when the album dropped, 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:40.080 the song was already doing twelve hundred Dreams of Spinds 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.600 a week smash. It was out of here because there's 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.640 the Remember the original single. 0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.080 Was Dreams Dreams that shot a video. 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.240 They had shot a video to it and everything already, 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.680 so they had to switch gears. But we I found 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:52.919 out what beat it was on the radio. 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.480 Oh my big gable. Of course, it gave us leverage, 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.719 you know what I'm saying. The business property was it was. 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:01.839 It was out of here before it was a life 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.040 changer because what happened was and guess what, no one 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.960 else knew we did the beat all right, because they 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:12.120 don't have the tag either anything. No one else knew 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:12.759 we did the beat. 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:15.279 So we go. 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.640 We we in la at Marvin Gaye Studio because Mary J. 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.759 Blige wants to work with us because they hated to 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:23.480 love it. She's like, I worked with the niggas who 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.680 didn't hate her to love it. But mind you back 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.080 to the point about the tension. The first time I 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:31.920 heard the record was in the back seat of Escalade 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.960 with Fat Joe in the front seat and his manager 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:40.200 at the time, and they're playing the record like fucking crazy. Meanwhile, 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.040 Joe Krack and fifty Cent hate each other, and I'm 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.959 in the back seat like this and niggas is looking 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:54.160 at me. I didn't know, and they're like yo. And 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.919 then Joe loves us so much, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:58.880 But Joe got a lot of a lot of street 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.359 guys with her, and all of them this nigga man, 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:10.719 yo crack yo, So. 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:15.600 It's hard to celebrate your biggest record, right. 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.160 But it's all love. It's all love, you know what 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.719 I'm saying. It's called family business, you know what I mean. 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:25.560 It's it's family. That's why we family. So, but no 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.440 one outside of the circle new we did the record. 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.480 So we get called to go to La to work 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.239 with with Mary and she's like, yo, I need hated 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.560 to love it. I need that. That's the fuck I 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.920 need y'all do what y'all need to do. And I 0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.000 think shar Garrett was the writer in the studio at 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.799 that time, and me and Cool was just playing beats, 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.960 playing beats, and we really didn't catch any chemistry with 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.640 Sean that that day in that session, like nothing really 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:52.080 came of it. 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:53.279 So we go. 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.640 Now we're in in in Atlanta because Jeezi wants to 0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.040 work with us because he wants to work with the 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.960 guys who did the New York Beat. And he's like, Yo, 0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.359 that synthesized the sound that y'all gotten that New York. 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.440 So I'm telling all my niggas, YO, listen to that, 0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.879 make ship like that. I want them. Since I said, 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.520 fuck it, might as well call the niggas who did 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.520 the beat Man. So we get to New York. 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:17.440 I need one of them. 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.719 I need. So we go over there, and you. 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.200 Know, as producers at that time, we never wanted to 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.800 repeat the sauce like we were so hell bent on 0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.319 creating a new sound, like you know what I'm saying. 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.000 So Jez's telling us to our face, give me New 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:43.440 York and being Cool to do everything. Horn Records, Sailpol Records. 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.399 We've we've all been there. You know what I'm saying. 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:46.800 We didn't know. 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.440 Remember, we got two hits simultaneous. We didn't know how 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.160 to Let's let's use the same sauce. 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.480 We ain't know, right, So we're telling the nigga, Yo, 0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.319 you know we did that Hated Love It record. He's like, what, Yeah, 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.040 we did the hat of the Loving record. He' said, Man, 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:03.919 I you know, y'all niggas did that shit. Man, that shit, 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.839 that shit a smashed nigga. So we're trying to give 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:11.800 him everything else. While we're in that session. Yeah, literally, 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.600 we get the call from Mary in the Gezy session. 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:19.080 She goes, look, I wanted to work with y'all so bad. 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.280 I know we couldn't do anything. You know, we couldn't 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.279 cook up anything new. So I said, fuck it. I 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.120 just sang over the fucking hated I Love It beat, 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.359 did it myself. I'm gonna send it to y'all now. 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.840 So when we listen to it, as Mary j Blibe 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.720 singing overheted love It. At the end of the record, 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:39.160 she goes, cooling, dre this beat is hot. And when 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:44.120 that remix came out, it was game over because we 0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:48.480 were still the only recognition we were getting for as 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.640 producers was the New York Record and the New York 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.120 that was a hit. So then when the Merry remix 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.040 came out, I said, Cool and Dre this beat is hot. 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.839 Niggas was like, Okay, hold up the same niggas who 0:41:58.880 --> 0:41:59.120 did that? 0:41:59.360 --> 0:41:59.640 Did that? 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.200 That's impossible. It's completely different sounds. And then that's when 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.960 our life like really changed, like we I can remember 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:13.560 being in Mansion and us Man and Forrell seen us 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.480 and he left his table to come over to like 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.520 show love and me and Cool was like, we need 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.480 to be showing you love, like like we we look 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.319 and copping please for no reason. We're like, hey, yo, 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.360 listen all them articles saying that we're the next Neptunes. 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:32.879 We never told him that, Like we're mad we keep 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:37.120 they made that ship. I'm like, I'm telling him like 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:38.840 and he's like, Yo, don't even worry about I'm just 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:40.880 letting you know, like we're upset about it too. 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.160 Just even knows about article. 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.719 You know what I'm saying. And he was just like, Yo, 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:52.279 that baseline, that baseline on that record is is forever man. 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.840 Y'all got a forever, y'all got a classic forever I 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.319 was like, yo, you're at the New York Record we did, 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.600 like you know what I'm saying, and like he went 0:42:58.680 --> 0:42:59.360 on his way. 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.520 Shout out the Doctor Dre for putting the most amazing 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.160 in history ever on a record, like. 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.120 It won't come out until he's what's ill is when 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.600 we did we we would there were certain things that 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:16.040 we would emulate, not emulate. We would take a gem, 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.920 so Doctor Dre would he would do on his choruses. 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.080 He would add a tambourine to a snare, and he 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.000 wouldn't do it on every snare. He would do it. 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.880 He would do it on one snare, let the other 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.360 one breathe, and then do it on another snare. So 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.759 on Hated I Love It did that. We did the 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.800 exact same, not knowing it was ever going to do. 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:34.160 To Dre. 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.759 It was just a gem we picked up from him. 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:37.480 You know. 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.719 I can remember when we our first meeting with Jimmy 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.239 Iveen and it was about some whole other shit years 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:47.160 later and we're sitting there and like remind him, like, yo, 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:48.640 you know we did the Hated to Love It and 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.200 he was just like, that's one of the top five 0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.840 records in my top five records in my career period, 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.120 like of anything I produced or anything was on my label. 0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.600 He's like, let me hear, let me, let me hear 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.840 that beat before Trade did what he did to it. 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:05.120 So me cool. 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:08.920 We didn't understand what he was saying before Dre mixed it. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.520 You know, I want to hear what I want to 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:15.200 hear before doctor Drake opens up the laptop, puts the 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.680 speakers on and plays the beat. Jimmy goes, it's the 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.360 same thing. It was not that you know, you know 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.759 Drake is who he is and worship from, but you know, 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.800 it was really like he couldn't believe it. 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:27.279 He put a hell of a mix. 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.759 You know what I'm saying was already close exactly like 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:32.080 he was. 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.840 He was gonna here straight like like the. 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:42.560 Like you're gonna do that to my man, We couldn't fit. 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:46.800 It's a mission to get in. 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.799 Come on, man, come on man. But man, you know the. 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:04.120 So Dre did have shout out Mike Alezando, I mean 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.160 shout out just Dre and everything that he did. 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.960 Man, but he put he had him play the bass over. 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:13.160 Because you know, you know, as music producers, musicians, it's 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:17.160 all about the chains that bass chain that Dre has 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.960 vocal chain. You know, it's the best quality of everything. 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:26.120 So when we got the credits, we saw bass by 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:30.560 Mike Alexandro. I'm like, that's why the bottom man, Like 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:31.600 when that comes on in the. 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:35.560 Club today, it just cuts through. It cuts through like 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:37.440 all he did was had the man. 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.520 We're musicians, So it's the bass. 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.719 It starts with the actual machine like it could be 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.080 a custom machine just doesn't you know what I'm saying, 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.880 doesn't have the same like it could be. 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:54.759 It's the pick up. 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.279 People don't understand. It's not just whatever you pick up. 0:45:58.320 --> 0:45:58.879 First man. 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:00.520 When we did when we did. 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:05.080 My Life, we had My Life is the Game Future. 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.560 Yeah, we had the record, had an eight o eight 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.799 and before we went to mix, we could we tried 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.920 to cut the base on there like ten times with 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:15.840 different bases. 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:20.000 It kept the base kept clashing with the eight of eight. 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.560 It kept canceling out, and I'm like, Yojoe, we got 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.400 mix this where we got a deadline. Games like ya, 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.960 we got to turn this shit in. We're like, we're 0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.560 at the NRG studios, remember we had Yeah, we had 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.920 a NOD session with nas and we're NRG Studios and 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.759 I'm like, yo, let's get it one last time. 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.200 And the bass player called me. It's like y'all got 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.600 a brand new base. They telling me this ship is 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.520 the magic. I'm like, bring it through. 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.000 We just to give it one last shot because we 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.520 had to, uh, Steve and the other studio, Possifi had the. 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.839 Mix up, like y'all just need the bass. So my man, 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:50.480 the bass. 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.200 Player, Lord of the Strings, we call him, he comes 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.279 to the base still clashing. I'm like, damn, we're gonna 0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.040 have to We're just gonna have to keep the eight 0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.680 to eight. So then the assist an engineer, he's like, 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:02.960 y'all want to try the glue. I'm like, the hell 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:03.520 is the glue? 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:05.200 He's like, hold on. 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.680 So at NRG Studios even you know that studio in 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.200 La Did, They have like Moroccan style room and shit 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.239 super vibe. So they have a sex They have a 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:19.080 room with all gear, vintage gear. So this guy walks in, 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.280 opens his shit up and it's a p bass fender 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:26.320 from nineteen fifty nine. You can't even see it's completely 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:31.840 raw wood from all the it's exposed hooks. 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:38.000 That ship up eight away comes on with the base 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:39.120 and it's the marriage. 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.560 It's crazy perfect. 0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:42.000 I said. 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:42.319 Yeah. 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.439 So when y'all get these records right, and y'all going 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:05.280 from five hundred, seven hundred to fifteen hundred to fifteen 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.680 thousand to forty plus four points. 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:10.200 Yeah, what y'all buy? 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.680 Y'all had to buy something because now y're not just 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.200 now y'are just not in the in the apartment playing gts. 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.239 You can't look regularly in the apartment now. 0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:25.000 We you know my my advice cars like you know 0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:29.400 what I'm saying, Like I was hustling backwards when I 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:29.960 was younger. 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.640 Now was called we were signed to blow the bag records. Yea, 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.320 lo blow the records were. 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.399 Doing all the wrong stuffy you know, and I want 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:46.040 to shot, but I don't want to cause them because 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:49.000 it's nothing for love. We're working with Tyree, who we love. 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.600 You know what I'm saying. That's that's you know what 0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:57.520 I'm saying, that's fam and we're working and uh, he 0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:01.040 had to Batley and I can remember the Bentley the 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.040 GT car right now. I like that Benley and he 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.160 goes man. You know what I'm saying, You can get 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:07.920 the belly easy. You know what I'm saying. You got 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:09.600 a crib. I'm like, yeah, I got Creepy's like, man, 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:13.759 it's pull equity out that bit ship. I'm like, oh, 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:21.000 you could do that. He's like yeah, nigga. So like 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.040 I think my first I mean, you know, I think 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.239 the first splurge we had was when we bought to 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.400 Escalade trucks, Escalade. 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.040 As big as you can go, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.840 With the twenty threes, and then right after that the 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:40.200 Range when the new Range body came out, and then 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:45.280 right after that you know, uh, the Bentley GT. Coop. 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.600 At least we bought cribs though, No, no, the first 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:49.239 thing we did was. 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:50.160 We bought houses. 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.000 We knew that much, so smart. 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.640 No, that's the first thing I think, you know, I 0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.040 did not. Oh no, the first thing was bought cribs. 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.919 And then but like you know, with cars and ship 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.160 like that cool to tell you, I went, I went, 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:04.919 I went. I went, stupid bro bro. 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.359 Like, how many cars do you have? At once? 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.960 I had seven cars parked out out front of my 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.440 house and it was it was it was so disrespectful 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:16.560 because all the cars combined costs more than what I 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.279 bought the house for it. So that step one in 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:26.719 Hustling backwards, you know. Part two is it's three garage house. 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:34.359 You know, so it's now two cars in this one, 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.279 one of the old schools in this one, and now 0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.040 you got four cars in the front and like two 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.000 of them truck like you know, it was a lot. 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:45.480 Of stuff with car covers on there. 0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.800 Association was like, yo, yall, can't keep car covers on 0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:49.880 all these cars like that. 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:55.239 So the problem is because you don't have a ten 0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:01.160 car garage house. You know what I'm saying, I'm driving 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.360 whatever is closest to the fucking curve, like meaning like 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.800 I had the Ferrari and the and the and the 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.400 Bentley in the in the in the garage. Yeah, and 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:18.520 then I had the Keif for cure, I had the 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:26.239 Bends and the fucking Maybac fifty seven s and the 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:30.239 range Rover and the and the Escalade all of that. 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.880 And if I wanted to take the Ferrari out to 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:34.480 like go to the heat games we used to go 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:36.560 all the time, I would have. 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.480 To move all those yeah, and we had to move card. 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:40.040 It was. 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:40.480 It was. 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:41.440 It was crazy. 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:45.200 So like you know, when we started getting money, like 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:49.920 if if if if splurging like for me, uh, with cars, 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.680 and then another thing cooler and I did a lot 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.640 was experienced, so you can't even see the money you spent. 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:59.959 It only lives in your memories. Like these blind people 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:04.600 in you're having dinners every night, the biggest suits, you 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:06.840 know what I'm saying. And fortunately were blessed to be 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:12.000 able to to to still maintain that. Like you know, 0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:16.839 we've seen so many horror stories, you know what I'm saying. 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:21.840 So today we're still like you know, blessed to be 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:27.200 able to like live a lifestyle. Thankfully we're smarter, you 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.440 know what I'm saying. Now you know what I mean. 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:33.120 So now I'm not I'm I don't need seven. I 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.880 don't need it, but I gotta have the coloring because you. 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.400 Know what I'm saying. I mean, you must have gotta 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:39.160 have the Wraith. 0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:40.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:41.239 Oh, you have to have the Raith. 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:45.800 I mean it because it just strives mooth once you 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.480 once you once you're in it, you know, they call it, 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.120 that's the magic carpet ride. Like once you want the 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:52.720 magic carpet ride, you can't. 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:54.080 You don't want to feel. 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:57.800 Got the range? 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.840 You name two cars over five. 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.640 We got a lot smarter now now you know what 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.399 I'm saying. It's like, you know, we didn't been there, 0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:06.880 We've done that. 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.560 You're also in a different earning space too. 0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:14.920 Yeah, your music and catalyg generated something crazy. 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.600 I know it was a problem, man, because when we 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.279 was we were spending a lot of money on that 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:20.160 American Express. 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:21.560 I ain't going that black car. 0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:23.080 And none a hold on. That's before the black car. 0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.960 When I call them people up and say, hey, I 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:27.520 knew it was I knew it was serious when I 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.640 called American Express to get the black car and the 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:33.400 lady said, before I could hang up, the delivery man. 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:35.000 He was here. 0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:39.120 They go, Oh, they couldn't wait to give y'all ship man. 0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.520 Look, I'm like talking to the lady. Then yes, the Centurion, 0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:44.879 no problem. It's twenty five hundred a year for each card. 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:46.600 I said, Yeah, that's cool. Blah blah blah. 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:48.959 My brother before I hung that phone up. 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:53.440 Delivered a circle house. 0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:57.359 Them boxes came in with a metal case. They want 0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:58.560 you to spend so quick. 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:02.239 Yeah, you're good. They want you to go. 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:04.720 They want you to go crazy. 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:12.640 You know, I mean, give thanks, man, because some people 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:17.279 don't recover, you know, what I'm saying. Yeah, and and 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:19.520 I think you know, for me and cool, like we've 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.719 been in We've been in the game for two decades now. 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:25.880 So in order to be in the game for two decades, 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.600 you got to be in the valley a few of 0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.680 them years. You know what I'm saying. You start off, 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.960 you start off in the valley, you feel me and 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.680 then so that's what you know. So it ain't nothing 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.480 wrong with it. You know you want to go further. 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:47.640 When you go further, and then that valley starts knocking 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.280 on your door, it's like, oh, ship, that's a whole 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.880 new feeling. Yeah, that's all. And some niggas never recover 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.640 from that first knock on the door where it's like, hey, yo, 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:00.799 this shit you've been doing, you can't do it no more. 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.880 For whatever reason. Some people have personal problems. Man, a 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:08.160 family is sick, you know, niggas will be wondering why 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.080 whatever happened to him it was winning. You never know 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.520 what could be going on. And if you're a true artists, 0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:15.120 true creative, and you put your life into your work 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:17.960 and you put passion the shit that you do, things 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:22.359 like a mother or father having cancer will affect your work. 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.440 You know what I'm saying. You know, that's why you 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:29.560 got to respect the people who just is like fucking 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.640 so driven they don't let nothing, you know, slow them down. 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:34.800 But most of us, yeah, because life happens. Yeah, you 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:39.200 know what I'm saying. So so you know, for me, cool, 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:43.120 Like we've been in the valley a few times, you 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:48.239 know what I'm saying, thankfully, you know, you know, we're 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.760 in a position now where we've lived and we've learned 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:54.040 and know like you know, you know, certain urges that 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:55.920 we have and you know, back in the day it 0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:58.480 don't even exist. Yeah, I think when you get to 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:03.960 this point in your career and you're still somewhat relevant 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.560 and you still have to impact our culture. And at 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.360 the same time, for us, I think for like the 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:14.560 last two three years, we've been leveraging our resume and 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:18.320 you know, and our accomplishments and what we've accomplished in 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.960 music to be able to open up new doors, you 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.920 know what I'm saying, and new opportunities to do other 0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:27.960 things outside of the music space, you know what I'm saying, 0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:31.560 And and and that's been very good for us. 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:32.360 Let's talk about that. 0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:34.720 Let's talk like come on, let's talk about the business 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:39.239 side of you know, this music thing for you guys outside. 0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.920 I won't even say the business side, the ancillary things 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.839 that now, like you said, you guys have been able 0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:50.040 to leverage by you know, because we all have a 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:54.600 moment in our careers period where we're like, Okay, the 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:57.880 network has to be your network, right, you know, you 0:56:58.040 --> 0:56:59.799 have to be able to say, Okay, now, what can 0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:03.000 I do with the accomplishments that I've had and the 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.000 things that I've learned in this game that can take 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:11.520 me to other places? We should, right, everybody doesn't do that. 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:15.080 I always preach. He always preaches that you should though, 0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:17.680 you know what I mean, because what someone may think 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.360 is done in this space over here, they're like, we've 0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:23.280 been waiting for you. 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.160 Oh man, it's don't get no rider than what you 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:31.640 just said. Man, the music business is a business. Where 0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:34.200 what have you done for me lately? All right? So 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:39.000 you know, I remember our first time hitting the valley 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:44.000 was just we had a label deal with Interscope, and 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.800 we knew going into it. We said, yo, pay attention 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:50.600 to all the other producers. When they started their own company, 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:52.600 they got real quiet. 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:54.240 Because they're trying to break their own artists. 0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:00.320 And if you don't pop your artists off, it gets tough. 0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:02.720 Yeah, because you also go into a space where you 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.760 dry up the market in terms of placing records. So 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.000 you ignore those phone calls for so long till they stop. 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:15.320 You're putting all your energy and it's yours now, so 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.280 you're putting extra blood, sweat and tears. 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:20.840 That's a whole new relationship. Yeah, it's a relationship. 0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:22.960 Yeah, this is yours. Like you want to break a 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:27.160 new artist everyone as if you're a music producer, the 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:33.520 goal is to cultivate new artists and introduce them to 0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:38.800 the world and and and hopefully they go on to 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:42.320 become you know, icons, they go on to become like 0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:45.680 really big artists. So you look at a doctor Drean 0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:50.280 and see what he's done, from NWA to Snoop Dogg 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:55.200 to Eminem to fifty cent. He had a hand in 0:58:55.280 --> 0:59:00.760 Kendrick Lamar himself as an artist. You you can't name 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:05.040 too many records that Doctor dre has produced for I 0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:10.000 mean produced on that's not signed to him, right, Organized 0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:15.040 noise outcasts, Goodie mob, you know what I'm saying. Society 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:18.480 is so you can't name too many records that they 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:22.760 produced on that wasn't coming from their camp, you know 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:25.680 what I'm saying. So that's how Cool and I always 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.440 wanted to function. So when we did the Interscope deal, 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:31.480 we put everything into that, all of our attention into it. 0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.520 And when you do that, other people are calling you 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:36.840 for music and you don't give it to him, You're 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:37.760 gonna be like, what the fuck? 0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:41.000 Right we neglected You're naturally gonna neglect the bread and 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:44.120 butter because you know what, and trying to break your 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:45.640 own you know label, So. 0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.320 You know, when you don't put something out there for 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:54.000 like a year and a half, two years, and now 0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:56.520 the artists who were trying to break maybe it's not 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:59.520 doing what it's supposed to do, all of a sudden 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.280 you're ready to just you know, okay, shit, we gotta 1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:05.480 get back on our shit. The game might have passed 1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:08.760 you by, the sonics might have changed on you, because 1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:10.720 niggas is going to other people, you know, and that 1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:15.240 me and Cool found ourselves in that position, you know, 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:20.680 around I can remember around like two thousand eleven, and 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:24.800 in that time, you know what I'm saying, And you know, 1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.480 fortunately for us, you know what I'm saying. My man 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:29.960 worked on the Jesus Peace album. You know, we work 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:32.800 with Game and got ship cracking, and then Boom do 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.320 all the way up with Fat Joe, and then you know, 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:38.120 put out an artist Kent Jones at the same time 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:40.840 and then Bom. You know, you remind niggas and they're like, Okay, 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:42.439 we're not going to sleep on them no more, because 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:44.520 they're gonna find a way to come back with you, 1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:49.080 you know what I'm saying. So I think those experiences 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:53.160 and being able to survive that people outside of the 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:55.040 music business appreciate that. 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:55.520 Right. 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:58.680 So if you've been in the game for twenty years 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:04.360 as a producer or whatnot, and A and R might 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:05.760 look at you and be like, yeah, man, but we 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:07.680 want the new thing. We want the new hot thing. 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:11.040 You know, it's okay for Rick Rubin to be in 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:17.680 the game for thirty forty years. You know, I respect 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:20.760 Rick Rubin on another level. I respect them just as 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:23.400 much as y'all do. It doesn't work like that for 1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:27.240 us for in our culture, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:32.280 You know, it's changing now because thankfully we're from a 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.360 generation where a lot of the guys I grew up 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:39.400 listening to like Cameron Mace, Fat Joe, like, these guys 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:43.240 are really viable right now and fucking the game up 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:46.840 in the media and killing the shit. So thankfully we 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:49.520 from that era where you know, like okay, just a 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:53.680 new day, you know what I'm saying. But in finance 1:01:53.920 --> 1:02:00.480 and other industries, they want to work with someone that's 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:04.040 got a twenty year resume that looks like a Cool 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:08.040 and Dre that have worked with jay Z, Beyonce, you know, 1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:12.440 fifty cent, Fat Joe, you know, Fallout Boy, Little Wayne, 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:16.360 Like it's gonna go, It's gonna keep trust me. That 1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:18.640 is a long list of month and they're like okay, 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:23.800 and they're still say they're still viable. They're gonna want 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:25.840 to do business, you know. So one of the things 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:29.160 that you know, Cool and I have done in the 1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:35.320 past two years is like this whole this whole wave 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:42.240 of artists selling their catalogs and whatnot. You know, there's 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:43.800 two ways to look at it, you know what I'm saying. 1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:48.760 If you're smart and you have a plan, you know 1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:52.400 for what you're gonna do with that when you sell 1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:55.240 that asset, and you have a real plan on how 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:58.040 to grow that money and make it work for you. 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:02.360 You know what I'm saying, Then great, go do that 1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:05.640 and if if if you still if your mind is 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:07.720 still sharp, because this is the music business in the 1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:10.880 same sports. We just got to have a sharp mind. 1:03:10.960 --> 1:03:11.800 Yeah, you can do it forever. 1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:14.080 We could do this shit fever, you know what I'm saying. 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:18.200 Then then go create a new catalog you mad at you, 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:20.840 you know what I'm saying, Or do a deal with 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:26.479 If your catalog exceeds whatever was forecasted, make sure whatever 1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:29.320 that is that's above the forecast, make sure that shit 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:32.560 get busted down eighty twenty you get the eighty you 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:38.800 know what I'm saying. Every contract, no standard lego block 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.640 shit is what you negotiate, you know what I'm saying. 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:45.080 So a lot of that we've been in the space 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:48.600 to where we've been working with you know, different financial 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:52.720 institutions like a Franklin Templeton, working with different venture capital 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:56.400 people in the tech space like an A sixteen Z. 1:03:56.800 --> 1:03:59.440 You know what I'm saying, Shout out Megan and Judine 1:03:59.480 --> 1:04:04.760 and everybody over there. To create different avenues for artists 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:09.640 to use their IP to leverage it without having to 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:13.760 divorce themselves from that asset. That's something that you want 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:15.800 to do, you know what I'm saying. So that's something 1:04:15.840 --> 1:04:19.520 we've been doing. We've been blessed to be a part 1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:24.480 of this cannabis wave, you know what I'm saying. You know, 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:29.920 we're venturing out to New York with that, blessed to 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:31.920 be part of a great group of people doing that. 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:36.480 So you know, we'll be in Manhattan real soon. Look 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:40.120 out for us. And we're doing something really creative you 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:43.160 know over there that's gonna be great for you know 1:04:43.200 --> 1:04:45.320 what I'm saying, people who like to smoke, and you know, 1:04:45.960 --> 1:04:49.320 people who are create music and everything like that. So 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:52.080 you know, we got that going on. And we also 1:04:52.280 --> 1:04:57.880 created a new distribution company. It's called Nebula, and it's 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:01.920 really cool because you know a lot of artists they 1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:06.080 make music and they find it hard to get their 1:05:06.120 --> 1:05:09.200 ship up on the DSPs or get their video up 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:11.480 on YouTube. They say, it's easy as hell. I shot 1:05:11.520 --> 1:05:13.720 a video not too long ago, like a year ago, 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:17.240 and still can't get that vitabar too right. So that 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:20.160 made us say, okay, how can we make this easier? 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:23.040 Because if we haven't problems trying to figure it out 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:26.240 then I know, you know the person, you know what 1:05:26.280 --> 1:05:29.880 I'm saying. So, you know, and we're in the era 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:33.840 of everyone wants to be independent and everything, which is great. 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:37.600 So let's create something for people to go and and 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:41.840 be able to put their music throughout distribution and get 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:45.680 their ship up on all the right all the DSPs, 1:05:46.280 --> 1:05:49.440 get the right looks at certain playlists and whatnot. And 1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:53.880 we've incorporated AI technology with our platform, which makes us unique, 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:57.080 makes us different, you know. So there's a cool and 1:05:57.160 --> 1:06:04.040 dre you know, brain and the actual distribution platform. So kids, 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:08.360 can you know, ask any questions on how to you know, 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:11.720 what kick should I use, or what preset should I use? 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:13.760 Or you know what I'm saying, how do I go 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:18.040 about marketing and promoting my my my single or my 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:22.360 video or whatever questions they have? You know, we have 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.479 the technology that's going to answer it right on the spot. 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:40.200 Yeah, now it's got to happen. Has to pull on 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:44.000 my keyboard. That job was talking about keyboard, serious keyboard. 1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:48.320 New way I don't think is hold on, let me 1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:50.280 get to my damn muscles. You should have just. 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:53.400 Picked up a grand piano and walked it upstairs. Man 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:54.520 wouldn't be the same. 1:07:01.200 --> 1:07:04.800 Come on with it. I'm gonna sustain pedal either. So 1:07:05.680 --> 1:07:07.479 that's that you know, I'm really working this ship. 1:07:10.680 --> 1:07:16.040 Cool and dre You've you've been part of historical moments, Yes, 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:19.080 they have, and now the people want. 1:07:18.920 --> 1:07:20.480 To know if you know your history. 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:24.800 Come on, out of all the songs you've heard, out 1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:26.920 of all the tunes you've sampled. 1:07:27.840 --> 1:07:28.520 What is your. 1:07:31.400 --> 1:07:42.080 H T five, your top five? Come on, tip five, 1:07:45.160 --> 1:07:45.960 your top. 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:48.480 Five all Revy singers? 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:52.440 Oh wow, already songs? 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:55.600 Oh wow, we've got to know. 1:07:56.560 --> 1:08:01.880 You got to show how many cars and how many boats? 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:22.320 Your yes? Yeah, now top four you're stop five. 1:08:24.960 --> 1:08:34.240 Oh yeah, that's serious. How many guys? How many boats? 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:36.800 Man? 1:08:37.400 --> 1:08:40.479 Top five R and B singers, Top five all time, 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:43.880 all time time, Wow, all time? 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:45.000 Man. 1:08:45.880 --> 1:08:50.080 All right, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:53.760 my favorite. All right, it's not even about them being 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:59.200 like my favorite top five. De'angelo is gonna be the 1:08:59.240 --> 1:09:03.320 first one. Yeah, the second person I'm gonna put and 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:06.040 don't even play with it. When I say the name, 1:09:07.240 --> 1:09:10.519 don't even play is gonna be Prince. And if you 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:16.719 have a problem with it, if you have a problem 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:20.080 with it, play Diamonds and Pearls because I know y'all 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:22.519 want to be what you do. Let's go Crazy, which 1:09:22.560 --> 1:09:27.280 is a classic, played Diamonds and Pearls. Another guy that 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:30.280 doesn't get the credit he's supposed to get as a singer. 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:35.519 His name is Joe. You know, I love m J. 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:38.840 Because MJ's voice is so pure. And if you watch 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:40.920 the little documentary they put out the other day on 1:09:41.040 --> 1:09:44.719 We Are the World watching takes, don't play. 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:49.280 You guys gon enjoy your world. 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:49.600 You know what. 1:09:52.600 --> 1:09:56.840 Perfect I'll put Michael just you know what I'm saying. 1:09:56.920 --> 1:09:58.920 It just is what it is that that you know, 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:01.120 just go back to and he was six years old 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:04.400 singing man killing grown men? 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:05.800 Right, all right? 1:10:05.880 --> 1:10:12.960 So MJ. And then last but not least, you know 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:16.840 why he was a beast? You know what's crazy about? 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:22.559 Why is a beast? But over the years I've started 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:27.400 to really, really really appreciate them runs that Sean Stocker 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:35.479 was getting off sciences that I mean, we we always 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:39.000 you know, always kicked the door down at the end, yes, 1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:42.799 but man, that boy Sean Stockman got them run. 1:10:44.479 --> 1:10:47.439 With the runs too, was just oh you snuck that 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:48.160 in there. 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:55.880 Man, crazy. So last I'm gonna throw a female in there. 1:10:56.960 --> 1:11:01.880 I'm gonna say name and and and you all know it. 1:11:01.960 --> 1:11:05.960 But the reason I'm saying this name is because we 1:11:06.080 --> 1:11:09.200 worked with her when she was fifteen years old, and 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:12.839 I never heard a fifteen year old, sixteen year old girl. 1:11:13.200 --> 1:11:13.800 Sound like this. 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:18.720 In fact, we did a record for her when she 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:23.360 was signed a Job Records, But Barry Weiss shout out, 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:23.920 Barry Weis. 1:11:24.840 --> 1:11:25.559 I know his son. 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:27.160 Well, I don't know, but you know our medicin, so 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:31.240 I ain't gonna say nothing crazy. So we ended up 1:11:31.320 --> 1:11:35.920 giving the record to Christina Million. It's called say I 1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:39.920 and Christina killed it to you know what I'm saying. 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:44.599 But the original of that was sung by a female 1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:54.280 name Jasmine Sullen, and she oh like when Miku heard 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:56.280 her for the first time, we started champion her. We 1:11:56.280 --> 1:12:01.679 ain't never seen like that, never seen someone sitting down singing. 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:07.240 So those are my five, you know, Jasmine Sullivan, Prince, 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:15.559 m J. DeAngelo, and Joe. Those are those are my five. 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:19.760 That's an amazing list. That's amazing list off off rip 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:24.840 number five for me. You know, I'm I'm I'm an 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:28.280 old soul at heart. You know what I'm saying, I 1:12:28.320 --> 1:12:35.640 would go Donnie Hathaway. Hmm, Donny Hathaway, just when that 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:40.600 come on, it resonates with your with your bloodstreams, you 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:43.120 know what I'm saying, Donny Hathaway. 1:12:44.720 --> 1:12:46.600 Number four Luther. 1:12:48.280 --> 1:12:51.840 Luther was just too smooth man. That ship was like. 1:12:53.320 --> 1:13:01.759 Like honey over the beat, cleanliness mhm. 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:07.880 Personal favorite. I gotta put Lauren Hill in there there. 1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:10.960 You got to I ain't mad at you because she 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:11.559 just she. 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:14.880 Just ain't give us enough. And that one album was 1:13:15.040 --> 1:13:18.760 just like you play it today and it's like, I mean. 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:23.880 She doesn't get the credit for being the artist that 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:30.840 as an MC was at the very top of the 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:35.880 MC class and as a scene made you forget. 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:40.120 You forgetting forget the rapper. The rapper was second because fuck. 1:13:40.840 --> 1:13:43.840 And by the way, she's on the big screen too, 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:46.320 she was active to talk, you know what I'm saying. 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:49.880 So I think she's a blueprint that sometimes people forget, 1:13:50.120 --> 1:13:50.720 you know what I'm saying. 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:53.040 Yeah, she just when that voice come on, it's just 1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:56.320 something about that tone. And when she get to singing 1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:58.040 some of them and her son Y G. 1:13:58.200 --> 1:14:01.200 Barley's got her on first single. 1:14:02.800 --> 1:14:03.240 Shout Out. 1:14:03.280 --> 1:14:06.680 You know what I'm saying, dat Lenis though the Marley. 1:14:07.000 --> 1:14:12.840 And the cout. Congratulations on that. 1:14:15.360 --> 1:14:15.920 Number two. 1:14:18.240 --> 1:14:18.400 Uh. 1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:21.800 I would have to say m J as well. You 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:25.679 know what I'm saying, Michael Jackson for sure, just too many, 1:14:26.600 --> 1:14:31.680 It's just too much. Voice was just immaculate. And then 1:14:31.720 --> 1:14:34.559 you know when you started like seeing some of all 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:37.599 the songs, he was just writing on his little recorder, 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:39.720 beat boxing. 1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:45.840 The whole hit, the whole hit Different, Different. 1:14:45.720 --> 1:14:54.680 Man was alien and one of my personal favorites. For 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:58.599 my number one, I would have to say Marvin Gaye, 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:02.960 Oh yeah, what I'm saying. We had the honor of 1:15:03.040 --> 1:15:05.519 working in the studio, like Jay said, with Mary and 1:15:07.720 --> 1:15:09.559 we got they have this paint Have you been there 1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:14.000 in Marvin Gaye studio? So it's a it's a sunset 1:15:14.360 --> 1:15:17.000 and there's a painting on the wall. It's like ten 1:15:17.120 --> 1:15:20.880 feet by like six feet, and the painting comes with 1:15:20.960 --> 1:15:25.880 a book and the book each each portion of the painting, 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:29.240 the book explained the part of his life, you know 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:32.240 what I'm saying. And we was going through the as 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:35.639 I was going through the book, you know you see 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:38.720 on there like from a moment he passed away. You 1:15:38.800 --> 1:15:41.040 know what I'm saying the moment he was killed. But 1:15:41.200 --> 1:15:43.360 you see on there like all the stages of his life. 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.080 He was the first guy to get a million dollar check, 1:15:47.000 --> 1:15:49.160 Barry Gordon. It was on there like the actual check, 1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:54.800 you know what I'm saying, And it was like so 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:57.200 you know, just that that experience of we felt his 1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:00.240 energy in there, you know what I'm saying, And yeah, 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:01.799 that's my top five man, Marvin definitely. 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:04.840 You know he's he's a goat. He's a goat. 1:16:05.000 --> 1:16:06.040 Great top five. 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:12.080 Yeah, yeah, what else you got form? I think I 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:12.560 ain't got it. 1:16:13.080 --> 1:16:15.320 Play a grand piano, this little machine guy. Let me 1:16:15.360 --> 1:16:20.479 go to grand piano to him. Hey, I ain't saying 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:23.360 no nigga. Hey, I ain't saying no names. I ain't 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:25.639 saying no names. I ain't saying no name. 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:28.040 Whe he was who was weird? 1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:29.599 What you did? 1:16:30.320 --> 1:16:34.840 Don't say she? I ain't saying no name. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:45.840 It's crazy, yo. Yeah, before you do anything. What's the kids? 1:16:46.160 --> 1:16:51.280 The kid's name that's got the outrageous voice with his 1:16:51.520 --> 1:16:55.479 natural is what you was on stage singing with. 1:16:58.400 --> 1:16:58.800 The mother. 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:04.519 Every was cold as fuck. Not too manyiggas. Game that's 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:06.080 cold blooded. 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:10.120 He's not playing games on Listen on demand. 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:15.120 That Nigga was singing some ship and it popped up 1:17:15.200 --> 1:17:19.479 on my TikTok, and my TikTok is usually aliens and 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:24.320 all kind of Joe Rogan and I scrolled up and 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:28.840 that Nigga was singing the Tavin Campbell and I just 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:30.800 sat there and just listened to the ship. I said, 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:35.840 what with with with extra extra sau And you know 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:38.880 the algorithm catches you if you watch something long enough, 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:41.720 So he just started flooding my ship. And then I 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:44.000 seen you and him on stage, right, y'all was growing out. 1:17:44.000 --> 1:17:46.679 I was like him and why ye was on stage 1:17:46.720 --> 1:17:48.480 with him from boys. 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:48.599 To men. 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:52.840 And singing ship? 1:17:52.960 --> 1:17:55.560 I was, you know, why he ain't foling? You know 1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:58.920 what I'm saying, ain't folding. But Wilson was giving him 1:17:58.920 --> 1:17:59.840 a run for his money. 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:02.640 Yeah, okay, I just. 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:03.479 Want to know. 1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:05.559 We got to shout him out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:09.080 blooded yeah, that brother is special. Well, you know, we've 1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:11.439 come to this moment. We've come to this moment. You know, 1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:14.439 my brothers are here. You know, we gotta we gotta 1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:17.960 have some you know, some good times. Right, So we 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:19.679 got this segment of the show it's called I Ain't 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.519 saying no names, right, Well, y'all tell us a story. 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:27.200 Our stories funny, are fucked up, are funny and fucked up. 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:30.920 But the only rule to the game you just can't 1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:31.759 say no names. 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:32.920 Mm hmmm. 1:18:33.520 --> 1:18:35.440 So I need Cool and Dre's. 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:40.559 Journey in the Times and the Life and Time, Life 1:18:40.600 --> 1:18:42.720 and Time, Miami's owns O. 1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:45.439 I ain't saying no names. 1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:53.479 All right, So I ain't saying no names. But this 1:18:53.680 --> 1:18:56.120 is early in me and Cool's career. We were in 1:18:56.240 --> 1:18:59.280 New York and like we were saying earlier, you saying 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:02.200 we had a we were buzzing without any hit. You 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:04.400 know what I'm saying, We're just buzzing off of the placements. 1:19:05.040 --> 1:19:06.760 We didn't even know what a placement was. I just 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:09.799 learned the words placement like three years ago. We just hustled, 1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:11.080 you know what I'm saying. We make a music the 1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:12.800 niggas we fuck with, right, you know what I'm saying. 1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:15.639 And then the young kid says, y'all got a placement? 1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:19.479 Fuck you talking about placement anyway. So we in the studio, 1:19:19.960 --> 1:19:26.560 we're working with an artist who's also is known for 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:32.360 something else and very popular, very big. But this person 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:36.840 also is taking a stab at being an artist and 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:43.559 it's on an iconic collaboration song. That's iconic, all right. 1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:47.960 So we're working with this artist. We do a record, 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:53.280 and we want to get the feature on the record. 1:19:54.360 --> 1:19:59.240 So this artist has this particular artist in mind because 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:03.560 this artist is like had a buzz around them. It 1:20:03.680 --> 1:20:08.600 had a big single. So they booked the artists to 1:20:08.640 --> 1:20:09.720 come to the studio. 1:20:09.680 --> 1:20:13.960 To do He started laughing. 1:20:14.080 --> 1:20:25.559 Immediately, I swear rushed my brain so le I literally right, 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:27.000 not just then passed out. 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:32.200 I swear to god, Oh my god, I was gonna 1:20:32.200 --> 1:20:42.120 go yo, wow, damn my nigga. They booked the session. 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:49.200 So the artist is in the studio. The feature artist 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:54.439 is in the control room learning the parts and everything. 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:56.960 Now the main artist who we produced the record for, 1:20:57.760 --> 1:21:01.920 pulls up to the studio. It's their session. Yeah, So 1:21:02.479 --> 1:21:05.960 they go in say what's up? Sits down, and the 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:10.519 energy in the room is not like popping like that, 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:20.320 you know what I'm saying. So the engineer, the future 1:21:20.439 --> 1:21:27.360 artist tells the engineer to tell the main artist, hey, 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:31.799 can you wait in the lounge. You know they're catching 1:21:31.840 --> 1:21:34.400 the vibe and you know want their own space, you 1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:36.720 know what I'm saying. So the main artis like, no, 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:39.640 it's no problem. We respect that. I respect that. I 1:21:39.640 --> 1:21:40.800 don't want to get it done. I don't want to 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:41.840 buy a record. 1:21:41.920 --> 1:21:42.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:21:42.400 --> 1:21:47.320 I don't want to buy So the lounge is next door, literally, 1:21:47.920 --> 1:21:50.400 like you know, walk out the control room, the lounge 1:21:50.479 --> 1:21:55.400 is there. Main artist sits on the sofa, turns on 1:21:55.520 --> 1:22:02.200 the TV. Low. Ten minutes, nobody comes in, nobody comes out, 1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:07.760 ten minutes go by. The engineer opens up the door, 1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:14.360 goes to the main artist and says, hey, so you know, 1:22:17.280 --> 1:22:20.920 you know, they not feel like really comfortable, like they 1:22:21.000 --> 1:22:23.880 want you to know, wait downstairs in the lobby if 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:27.640 it's cool. So the main artists are, way, I'm in 1:22:27.720 --> 1:22:33.360 the lounge. I'm in the louch. I'm not bothering. 1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:34.840 It's just me. 1:22:35.120 --> 1:22:42.160 It's just me, you know, I can't. They just asked 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:46.160 if you could wait downstairs. So the artists like, fuck 1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:48.719 I fuck it. I go downstairs. Sh'S my session. 1:22:48.880 --> 1:22:49.200 Fuck it. 1:22:51.240 --> 1:22:55.360 Goes down the stairs, turns the corner, go sits in 1:22:55.439 --> 1:22:58.960 the lounge of the studio by the front door, like 1:22:59.120 --> 1:23:01.800 this is a very very popular artists or anybody walking 1:23:01.880 --> 1:23:09.400 in that front door. We got a picture about forty 1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:14.160 minutes go by. The engineer walks down the stairs. 1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:24.120 Get the fuck out of no way, no way, no, no, 1:23:25.960 --> 1:23:26.960 this is not about to happen. 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:29.320 No, I tell you this ship here, you can't make 1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:29.600 it up. 1:23:30.120 --> 1:23:33.200 It walks down the stairs, It goes to the artists 1:23:33.240 --> 1:23:41.320 and said, look, they're in the booth. They're trying to 1:23:41.360 --> 1:23:43.920 get it done. They asked me to see if you 1:23:44.000 --> 1:23:47.640 were still downstairs. So the artists like, oh, okay, they 1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:52.240 want me to come up. No, can you wait outside? 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:58.719 What the fuck is fucking perhaps in your car. 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:02.240 Outside? 1:24:02.400 --> 1:24:05.519 The artist goes the building. Are you fucking kidding me? 1:24:05.800 --> 1:24:09.320 What the fuck you want? Be away outside the fucking studio? 1:24:09.400 --> 1:24:10.439 Man, what the fuck? 1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:13.840 I don't know what to tell you, Like, they asked 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:15.720 me if you were down there, and if you're down there, 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:21.960 that's why they can't get it done. So artists goes 1:24:22.040 --> 1:24:25.000 into the truck, into their into their car. 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:25.720 What have you? 1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:30.160 Sits in there and they're stressing that. Like an hour 1:24:30.280 --> 1:24:33.880 later passes. They see the artists leave the studio, jump 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:37.639 in the suv and drove off. So they're like, fuck, 1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:40.000 thank god, let's go and listen to what the fuck 1:24:40.040 --> 1:24:43.720 you know? It's been like three hours whatnot. They go upstairs, 1:24:44.360 --> 1:24:46.840 all right, let me hear what the let me hear, 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:48.840 let me hear what they did. The engineer goes, they 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:50.240 weren't really feeling the song, so. 1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:55.439 Br this ship can't make it up. 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:57.160 Yeah, we heard the story. 1:24:57.800 --> 1:24:58.280 Was crying. 1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:00.679 We said, Yo, this is a story. 1:25:00.800 --> 1:25:03.559 This is exaggeration, right. The Edgindeary was right there, said, nah, 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:06.200 I witnessed it. I played a role in it, like 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:12.519 I don't know what the fun just happened. But that's 1:25:12.720 --> 1:25:16.639 that's the story. That's like, like to this day, it's 1:25:16.720 --> 1:25:18.640 one of the ill ship that. 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:20.400 You pulled that one out. I wasn't even thinking that, 1:25:20.520 --> 1:25:23.439 but then that was a good one, right. 1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:26.439 No illmatic that ship was the only ship ever. So 1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:28.679 that's that's that's the story. 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:36.880 I don't say no names, man, never the person who 1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:38.800 is the artist gonna see this. They gonna bust out, 1:25:39.280 --> 1:25:39.880 They're gonna hit. 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:43.639 Us, like I would be looking for that artist. I'm 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:48.200 gonna be looking in the comments. I'm looking for the 1:25:48.439 --> 1:25:50.759 comment I was there never. 1:25:50.720 --> 1:25:53.080 Seen no ship like that. That's that's that's one of 1:25:53.120 --> 1:25:55.559 the ill ships that I've never seen nothing like that ever. 1:25:56.600 --> 1:25:58.840 No, So there you go. Well, my brother's cool and 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:01.080 dre again. Man. 1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:03.240 We we first of all, we can't thank you enough 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:06.760 man for taking your time out and coming up here 1:26:06.880 --> 1:26:09.840 and just you know, giving us an opportunity to give 1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:12.720 you your flowers, man, and and giving our community an 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:17.080 opportunity man to just hear the journey man, hear the here, 1:26:17.200 --> 1:26:20.400 hear the mountaintops, here, the valleys lows man, and and 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:22.280 and hear how you've come out on the other side 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:24.639 of all of those things and some into some really 1:26:24.760 --> 1:26:25.719 really great things. 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:26.040 Man. 1:26:27.000 --> 1:26:30.280 We're proud of you, man, like we look at you 1:26:30.360 --> 1:26:32.160 and see you like, okay. 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:36.320 Appreciate the big fans of the podcast. Yeah, killing it. 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:42.960 I'll be I'll be singing harmony with your niggas, but 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:44.160 I'm at the crib sing. 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:47.519 Oh not that I know. Don't worry about it. Yeah, 1:26:47.520 --> 1:26:49.080 I don't worry about We're going to be the future. 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:51.880 These records done. 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.800 I'm ready, stay ready. 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:56.760 Yeah. I can't thank you guys enough man. 1:26:56.880 --> 1:27:00.280 And when you get ready to put that music, got 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:03.280 run one of them new singles through Nebulas. 1:27:05.560 --> 1:27:06.920 We're gonna show it that extra. 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:10.680 To reck it out right now. 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:17.599 Yeah yeah, really, well, let's go, Lord, is the Lord's 1:27:19.720 --> 1:27:20.000 I want. 1:27:20.080 --> 1:27:21.679 I wanted to mention this because you know what I'm saying, 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:23.080 Like at the end of the day, me and Dre Man, 1:27:23.120 --> 1:27:24.680 you know, we we all spiritual brothers, you know what 1:27:24.680 --> 1:27:27.720 I'm saying, And we definitely believe that God is the 1:27:27.800 --> 1:27:29.679 reason we're even still here, you know what I'm saying. 1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:35.080 And you know we believe Cole heartily like and just 1:27:35.160 --> 1:27:37.400 have patience in his plan for your life, you know 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:37.920 what I'm saying. 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:42.640 And I'll never forget, man, when we was in our 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:48.600 journey early on, you know, everything, I felt like everything 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:50.200 in life there's a. 1:27:50.240 --> 1:27:55.360 Purpose for it, like this this interview, it is a 1:27:55.400 --> 1:27:56.000 purpose for it. 1:27:56.160 --> 1:27:56.760 You know what I'm saying. 1:27:57.120 --> 1:28:00.599 When me and Dre was doing I'll never forget when 1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:02.640 we were doing the R and B thing. We was 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:06.800 doing performance and we perform in like different places, and 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:09.400 our manager at the time, he had us perform at 1:28:09.439 --> 1:28:15.639 this at this hospital, right and this this always stayed 1:28:15.640 --> 1:28:18.400 with us because of what happened after. So we performing, 1:28:18.520 --> 1:28:20.360 we were in the cancer ward and we're performing for 1:28:20.520 --> 1:28:22.720 all terminally ill kids and I. 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:25.040 Remember there's this girl in the front. She was just 1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:25.800 smiling and. 1:28:25.960 --> 1:28:30.400 Just like we was dancing, singing for the kids, and 1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:34.360 we're taking pictures and you know what I'm saying, signing 1:28:34.439 --> 1:28:37.519 little autographs and left it at that. A couple of 1:28:37.600 --> 1:28:40.680 days later, our manager caused us, He's like, hey, man, 1:28:40.680 --> 1:28:42.920 you wouldn't believe what happened to the girl that was 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:44.960 sitting in the front. Her mom called me she wanted 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:49.240 the pictures in the video that we shot because the 1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:52.479 day after she said she hadn't seen her daughter smile 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:55.320 in years, and this is the first time she's seen 1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:57.479 her smile in years. Was when we performed for her 1:28:58.000 --> 1:29:01.360 and she passed away and me and Dre we were 1:29:01.360 --> 1:29:04.439 at Taco Yeah, like the next day she passed away 1:29:05.000 --> 1:29:07.000 and me and Dre were you know, we ain't had 1:29:07.040 --> 1:29:08.920 that bag like that, so we was always a Taco 1:29:09.000 --> 1:29:10.840 Bell was the cheapest thing to eat, so we would 1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:13.000 we would pull up at Taco Bell, grab our food 1:29:13.000 --> 1:29:15.280 after we left my mom's garage, and we would park 1:29:15.320 --> 1:29:18.160 at the Taco Bell and just talk and then just eat. 1:29:18.800 --> 1:29:21.439 And I'll never forget, I said, you know, Dre, what 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:27.680 if what if the sole purpose of the group that 1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:30.160 God put together, the sole purpose was to make this 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:32.760 girl smile one last time? And that's the end of 1:29:32.800 --> 1:29:34.840 the group. And what if me and you are meant 1:29:34.880 --> 1:29:38.680 to be big producers? And Dre was like, nah, we 1:29:38.720 --> 1:29:40.479 about to be the biggest R and B singers in 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.880 the game. I was like, I'm just saying, you know 1:29:43.920 --> 1:29:45.479 what I'm saying, you don't know. And it just so 1:29:45.680 --> 1:29:48.960 happened that look at us now, you know what I'm saying, 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:51.080 and this is like we had nothing, this is pre 1:29:51.600 --> 1:29:54.240 is this is like this is we just bought our keyboard. 1:29:54.280 --> 1:29:56.680 I said, what if God the whole plan was for 1:29:56.760 --> 1:29:59.080 the group to get together to make this girl smile 1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:01.800 one last time when she went to heaven from her mom, 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:06.160 and bring us together to make music. And it was like, 1:30:06.240 --> 1:30:08.120 you know that that stuck with me because I felt like, 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:11.800 you know, God has definitely had had his hand in 1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:15.599 our career from our whole career, you know what I'm saying. 1:30:15.960 --> 1:30:17.000 And we've always been like. 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:20.960 Yo, when it's God's time, it's God's time. You know 1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:22.360 what I'm saying, just leave it in his hands. 1:30:23.000 --> 1:30:26.040 And we just hear man. We just honored to be 1:30:26.080 --> 1:30:28.080 here with y'all brothers, you know what I'm saying. And 1:30:28.320 --> 1:30:30.000 because at the end of the day, we go we go. 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:32.960 Like when I seen he when he hit me, He's like, 1:30:33.080 --> 1:30:34.680 YO were in Miami. I said, man, you still got 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:38.479 the same number. That's how you know you're dealing with 1:30:38.560 --> 1:30:41.360 some good brothers, you know what I'm saying. Like, my 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:43.080 man got the same number. I was like, of course, 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:44.800 be an honor man, because at the end of the day, y'all, 1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:50.040 y'all can't leave Miami without having cooland jail. So it's 1:30:50.040 --> 1:30:51.240 the honor to be here with y'all man. 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:54.920 Love. Listen, my name is thank V. 1:30:55.439 --> 1:30:58.960 This is the Army Money Podcast, the authority on all 1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:03.599 things are and B and these have been my blowing money, 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:08.960 fast brothers, a lot of cars. 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:11.160 A lot of money spent, but we're still here. 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