Speaker 1: R and B Money.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 3: Take Valoti.
Speaker 1: We are the authorities R and B ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: My name is Tank Valent time man, This Stormy Money podcast,
Speaker 3: the authority on all things R and B.
Speaker 1: This is there.
Speaker 3: There are there are records, and then there are hits.
Speaker 3: They are placements, and then there are singles. On speak,
Speaker 3: there are producers and then there are super producers. These
Speaker 3: are the lot of cool and yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: we're here.
Speaker 1: Y'all missed us harmonized, that's behind the scene act.
Speaker 4: They might have to catch a lot.
Speaker 1: We got it. Listen, cool, I don't lie to you.
Speaker 5: We gotta do a little harm and it would tank.
Speaker 1: It listen he kids, or right now.
Speaker 4: We go see like come on now.
Speaker 3: First of all, man, you know your brothers is man,
Speaker 3: absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know this is coming from you know, a musician, singer,
Speaker 3: song writer, the artist since he was nine hanging out
Speaker 3: with Michael Jackson. Like we we are people who know
Speaker 3: and understand what in the fuck you guys are and
Speaker 3: it is it is awesome to have you brothers here, man,
Speaker 3: Like we we we family, but we we value your time, man,
Speaker 3: and we value your gift.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: So this is important that you pulled up man, very expensive,
Speaker 3: very they got so many buildings, seventeen miles of ocean.
Speaker 1: People pull up to the destination and you know they
Speaker 1: want to meet and greet two and you think you
Speaker 1: can come and take some phellos with me?
Speaker 3: Who I mean the longevity of it too is a thing, right,
Speaker 3: So I think maybe we just start at the very beginning,
Speaker 3: because it's like to become cool and dre right, where
Speaker 3: does that start? Does that process start with you doing
Speaker 3: something over here and going crazy, and you doing something
Speaker 3: over here and going crazy, and then like, man, you're
Speaker 3: going crazy over there, I'm going crazy?
Speaker 1: What do you think about? Like, how does that even happen?
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I mean I think it started first,
Speaker 4: you know, cool and I we met in high school
Speaker 4: and we met in choir.
Speaker 1: So so this singing thing is different. It's real.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not nold on on.
Speaker 6: You can't even if it wasn't choiet, let's not disrespect
Speaker 6: the class.
Speaker 4: He was there.
Speaker 5: This was vocal on sounds.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we were. We were in vocal ensemble, performance, choir,
Speaker 4: and choir. Like you know, like in my senior year,
Speaker 4: I had five music classes like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: going crazy with it. And we met in chorus and
Speaker 4: the teacher, our teacher, miss A, she was. She left
Speaker 4: an impression on us, like like a serious imprint on
Speaker 4: us because a lot of the things we learned in class,
Speaker 4: we took that with us, like, you know, along the way,
Speaker 4: you know, from producing vocalists and whatnot, everything that she
Speaker 4: taught us about breath control and sing from the diaphragm
Speaker 4: and your head voice, your false set, all that shit
Speaker 4: reading music, you know what I'm saying. So a lot
Speaker 4: of the well, you know, we started an R and
Speaker 4: B group. That's how we started making beats. We were
Speaker 4: in an R and B group. We couldn't find any
Speaker 4: producers that would do anything for us, and we couldn't
Speaker 4: afford it. So me and Cool we just put some
Speaker 4: money together and one of the guys from the the
Speaker 4: group had started like a T shirt company with one
Speaker 4: of our home boys, and we were just like, man, these
Speaker 4: niggas starting their own ship. They're not even inviting, they
Speaker 4: ain't even asked to be part of your little T
Speaker 4: shirt company. Me and you, let's let's let's produce man,
Speaker 4: Let's teach you. Let's teach you how to produce. So
Speaker 4: you know, that's how it started, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And be a.
Speaker 1: Part where you said y'all was an R and B group.
Speaker 4: Yeah we we we made a new people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Nah, people don't and then when they find out shout
Speaker 4: out Seventh Street. And she might not remember this, but
Speaker 4: she tried to test my arms. She tried to test
Speaker 4: the club group Basic Unity.
Speaker 6: There's five thousand promo shots of us wearing karc Andi
Speaker 6: jackets somewhere in Miami somebody's wall or somebody's.
Speaker 1: Just passing them joints out.
Speaker 4: We had a little team, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And we were performing at all the high schools, and like,
Speaker 4: we made a name for ourselves locally at the same
Speaker 4: time with DJs too, so you know, we're doing all
Speaker 4: the Pirate stations. That's where we met Cayled back in
Speaker 4: ninety six, you know what I'm saying. So we were
Speaker 4: making a name for ourselves as DJs too, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So we just made a conscious decision
Speaker 4: to take music serious, and part of that was us
Speaker 4: becoming producers. And you know, I think with me and Cool,
Speaker 4: we just we've been so tight for so long. We
Speaker 4: know each other so well. We know when I know
Speaker 4: when he's in the zone. Just let him cook, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And if I hear something he's doing,
Speaker 4: I get an idea, I'll tell him and he'd be like, well,
Speaker 4: come come fuck with it, or like I hated I
Speaker 4: love it, like you know, we're going right into the hits.
Speaker 4: Yeah a choice, Yeah right, it's just so many, you know,
Speaker 4: so like I hate it on love the other dogs
Speaker 4: on top, like with that, you know, cool with leave
Speaker 4: whatever he was working on on the NP. See, he
Speaker 4: would leave it up and we were in his mom's.
Speaker 5: Garage shout out to the old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. So one
Speaker 4: day I'll pull up. He's not there, and I go
Speaker 4: to our studio and I just pressed play on NPC
Speaker 4: and it's the hate of the love It beat. But
Speaker 4: I heard it. I heard the flip, the sample flip
Speaker 4: a little different than how Cool had it because I
Speaker 4: was just listening to the black album had just dropped,
Speaker 4: and that ourcore record was just like so special, just
Speaker 4: the way that that John Legend was singing and flowing
Speaker 4: on that the way that it was just you know
Speaker 4: it was. I listened to it for like an hour
Speaker 4: outside his mom's crib, so I had that in my brain.
Speaker 4: So when I pressed play, I was hearing that the
Speaker 4: way that I was listening to our core. So I
Speaker 4: just chopped it up a little bit and then he
Speaker 4: came back. He was like, oh, yeah, that's dope, and
Speaker 4: he put the high hat sample on it. So sometimes
Speaker 4: it just happens that way. Sometimes cool cook the whole
Speaker 4: shit and and I'll just come in and a reference
Speaker 4: like a single chorus, a single hook and whatnot. When
Speaker 4: we when we send the record out or when we're
Speaker 4: working with artists. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And the somethings of magic. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Some things of magic as well, Like like when Dre
Speaker 6: started vibing out, I walked in and I was like,
Speaker 6: you know, I used to I used to There was
Speaker 6: this thing I used to like do We always had
Speaker 6: the turntables set up and we just had a wall
Speaker 6: of records with samples and ship and I used to
Speaker 6: always like to like put the put the turntables on
Speaker 6: so we can hear them live, and while the beat
Speaker 6: is going, I would drop the needle somewhere right just
Speaker 6: randomly dropped the needle and then when the music the
Speaker 6: sample would come in, it would come in on us
Speaker 6: such a different timing that you don't even recognize, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, bring it back, but it's completely
Speaker 6: you never recognize.
Speaker 5: That it's there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So this particular time I dropped it and that the
Speaker 6: signature I had came on, I said, Yo, sample this
Speaker 6: and we put this the high hat in there, which
Speaker 6: ended up being a signature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the head give it that sids are listening.
Speaker 7: This is this is what you're doing right now is
Speaker 7: a master class because people aren't thinking like that when
Speaker 7: they're sampling records.
Speaker 6: Nah, when you sample, you know you you're going through this.
Speaker 6: This is like drop the needle. Wear it drops. Sometimes
Speaker 6: you get magic, sometimes you don't. But I used to
Speaker 6: be like, drop and then it will be a.
Speaker 1: Segment of.
Speaker 4: Vocal.
Speaker 5: Oh yo, but it's not like we're searching.
Speaker 6: Just call it the random the randomizer, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Let's see what Let's see what happens.
Speaker 6: But I used to I used to love doing that
Speaker 6: because we'll have beats playing and then you're not You're
Speaker 6: gonna get always gonna get something different when you drop it.
Speaker 6: Sometimes you getting you ain't getting nothing, But you know
Speaker 6: how you're searching for us for a certain songs.
Speaker 3: It's a different kind of inspiration when it's out of
Speaker 3: that random, magic, calculated.
Speaker 8: And when it comes in on key it's really crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's meant sliding.
Speaker 5: In there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Or we would use it as inspiration for like a hook,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, and then Joy be like, yo,
Speaker 6: let me let me pop a hook on there, and
Speaker 6: at that point you just it inspired to create an
Speaker 6: original element, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So so take us from basic unity having to do
Speaker 3: your own beats. Now you're DJs making a name for
Speaker 3: yourselves as DJs.
Speaker 1: You're killing all the parties. How do you get to a.
Speaker 3: Point to where anybody in that professional space recognizes that
Speaker 3: y'all got some shit going on and they need to
Speaker 3: be a.
Speaker 4: Part of I think our first sign was when we
Speaker 4: were still in the group, when we went to Atlanta,
Speaker 4: UH to try to get in front of La Read.
Speaker 4: At that time, the Face Records was you know the
Speaker 4: dream you're an artist, musician, producer the Face Records is
Speaker 4: that's the destination. You know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 4: care what you're doing, singing, rapping whatever. They had Goodie
Speaker 4: Mob outcast, Tony Braxton, Ussher, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They had as Yet, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 4: they had they had Babyface over there.
Speaker 6: Writing songs right and Babyface office was on one end
Speaker 6: of the building.
Speaker 4: And so I found out, like, you know, somebody in
Speaker 4: my family worked at Face and she had like a
Speaker 4: big position. So we we just went up there on
Speaker 4: faith Man. We went to Atlanta and just started hustling
Speaker 4: and finally got in contact with her and she had
Speaker 4: us come up to the office and we just pressed
Speaker 4: play on the music we was recording, and we sang
Speaker 4: live for and she was like, you know who you
Speaker 4: need to sing for. You need to sing for Organized Noise,
Speaker 4: Rico Wade. So me and Cool was just like ecstatic
Speaker 4: because it was their music that really gave us the
Speaker 4: confidence to really believe in what we was doing. Because
Speaker 4: we were using a lot of live elements along with
Speaker 4: samples Cool was cutting. They were doing everything that we
Speaker 4: felt hip hop should sound like. So to get the
Speaker 4: opportunity to sing in front of him was like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: here we go. So we did that, and I'll never
Speaker 4: forget every beat, every record he heard. He kept saying
Speaker 4: who did the beat? And me and cool like we
Speaker 4: did it, and then after that who did the beat?
Speaker 4: So at the end he was like, man, y'all good
Speaker 4: that this and that he goes y'all niggas sek to
Speaker 4: do what y'all? Keep doing? What y'all doing? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That shit gonna work out for y'all.
Speaker 4: So that was like a huge indication because you know,
Speaker 4: like to be able to like the people you idolize
Speaker 4: give you that fucking that thumbs up, like yo, y'all
Speaker 4: doing the right thing, don't stop. Was our first indication
Speaker 4: that and it was a big one for us. Now
Speaker 4: we worshiped Dungeon family. Anything that niggas put out, even
Speaker 4: if it was not hitting, we didn't care, like we
Speaker 4: was champion and they ship. So we took that energy,
Speaker 4: came back home and went even harder. And plus we
Speaker 4: had made a name for ourselves with the beats here
Speaker 4: locally with like all the independent record companies, right, so
Speaker 4: you know, paper bag, oh.
Speaker 5: Man, oh, man, that's not just the song.
Speaker 4: Man. Let me tell you something, oh man.
Speaker 5: With the original brown paper bag boy.
Speaker 4: So like you know, young nineteen twenty years old got
Speaker 4: the condo over Biscay Bay when I was getting to it. Now,
Speaker 4: the way the Miami Heat players lived, you know, we
Speaker 4: in there these niggas is like, who are these guys records?
Speaker 8: No, you have no replacements.
Speaker 1: Replace.
Speaker 6: This is called you know, artists finding our beat CD
Speaker 6: and in one of their friends cars and just like yo,
Speaker 6: we used to put the beats and we used to
Speaker 6: put our number on there be like, man, what is that?
Speaker 5: Let me get some who beats?
Speaker 4: Who beats?
Speaker 9: Then?
Speaker 4: And then we had like consistent clientele, like guys that
Speaker 4: was in the street doing their thing, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Would would would?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: That's how we learned business too. You know a lot
Speaker 4: of bad habits, but good you know, good game.
Speaker 1: We picked up from you know, just selling ya street
Speaker 1: beats for like back then.
Speaker 4: It was like five hundred and seven hundred thousand, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But we was offering them bitches, moving theuckers.
Speaker 5: And that's when the btds had thirty two tracks.
Speaker 1: What tied.
Speaker 4: Got the bag right here, twenty thousand for thirty two.
Speaker 4: So we was doing our thing, but you know, we
Speaker 4: were blessed. I think what what took us to the
Speaker 4: next level? Uh. We have a mutual friend with Fat Joe,
Speaker 4: our man Rob and and he was like, Yo, Joe's
Speaker 4: working on a new album and he's looking for some
Speaker 4: down South beats. And I told him, Yo, I know
Speaker 4: some guys that you know, they are on fire in Miami.
Speaker 4: So he was like, Yo, don't give him none of
Speaker 4: the hip hop shit. You know that y'all be doing.
Speaker 4: Give him some down South shit. So it was how
Speaker 4: many beats on there?
Speaker 5: Thirty thirty two, So that used to be my lucky number.
Speaker 5: Everything gets thirty two.
Speaker 4: So thirty two we put thirty one straight down South
Speaker 4: type beats for what it sounded like back then. And
Speaker 4: we's like, yeah, we got puke one one hardcore like
Speaker 4: the shit, you know what I'm saying. So the very
Speaker 4: last beat was like some straight East Coast you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, New York type shit. So the story
Speaker 4: is Joe's on his tour bus and they're listening in
Speaker 4: their car in Orlando and he's going through the CD
Speaker 4: and he's just skipping, skipping, skipping, skipping, and the last
Speaker 4: beat comes on and he's like, there's no way the
Speaker 4: same niggas who did the right It's impossible. I gotta
Speaker 4: go meet them niggas because this is my favorite beat
Speaker 4: of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So he comes down and.
Speaker 6: We I remember that we got the call first, so
Speaker 6: our man, it was like, yo, Joe wants to speak
Speaker 6: to y'all. So Joe gets on the phone and it's like, y'all,
Speaker 6: this is my favorite beat of all time. Gosh, this
Speaker 6: beat on here is my favorite beat I've ever heard
Speaker 6: in my life. He's like, in fact, it's it's such
Speaker 6: an amazing meat that I want to record it in Miami.
Speaker 6: I want you to come to the studio because that's
Speaker 6: I want to meet y'all. I want to meet the
Speaker 6: guys who did this beat. And then he and we
Speaker 6: were already doing mad Ship with call it, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like underground radio, and Joe comes in
Speaker 6: the studio and we come in and you know, we
Speaker 6: meet Joe for the first time, and Cali walks in
Speaker 6: and goes, these are my guys, Cool and Dre I've
Speaker 6: been telling you.
Speaker 9: About, you know, just like.
Speaker 4: Themiah. He's seeing the connection with us and Cal He's
Speaker 4: like you know that, and he's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: These are my guy? In fact, they was the only
Speaker 4: niggas not hating on me when I came out here.
Speaker 4: They actually like gave me opportunity, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it worked out like super perfect, and then from
Speaker 4: there I think we got even closer. He had an
Speaker 4: R and B artist, Tony Sunshine at the time, and
Speaker 4: shout out to Tony I talking him today and he
Speaker 4: was like, Yo, your niggas know how to do R
Speaker 4: and B And We're like, yo, we was R and
Speaker 4: B singers, right, yeah, singer. So we were like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we could do that. So we started working with Tony
Speaker 4: Sunshine and then we did this one record that was
Speaker 4: dedicated to Big Pun and it felt like I believe
Speaker 4: I could fly. It was that chord structure. It felt
Speaker 4: like you know that chamber and you know. We we
Speaker 4: recorded our saying the whole ship, and then we sent
Speaker 4: it to Joe and he was just it just like
Speaker 4: blew him away. He's like, I didn't know you niggas
Speaker 4: could do all of this, y'all. I gotta come to
Speaker 4: New York, So he flew us up to New York,
Speaker 4: and then we spent a good four years, like you know, tussling.
Speaker 4: What we would do is we would we would we
Speaker 4: We had to be in the studio with Joe A
Speaker 4: by seven o'clock, so all day, all morning, all day,
Speaker 4: we would cook up, cook up, cook up, cook up,
Speaker 4: cook up, cook up. Go see Joe play like twenty
Speaker 4: new beats whatever he wasn't fucking with. The next morning,
Speaker 4: we was hitting every studio, every record company, boom boom bom,
Speaker 4: boom boom, passing out the shit he didn't picked, cooking
Speaker 4: up another twenty new beats, going to the studio the
Speaker 4: next night with twenty more new beats, like we just
Speaker 4: kept We was just not the only shit we was
Speaker 4: doing was probably playing GTA and fucking cooking up like
Speaker 4: non stop and that ship. You know, the volume of
Speaker 4: beats who was doing and the fact that we was
Speaker 4: from Miami making them type of beats. We made a
Speaker 4: name for ourselves, Like in the city, even before we
Speaker 4: had a hit or anything, people were like, yo, coolan
Speaker 4: Dre's the next this and the next that, this and that,
Speaker 4: this and that.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: This is that type of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, man, like that the
Speaker 3: footwork hustle is different than than the thumb, than the
Speaker 3: thumb hustle off email, It's so different because you had
Speaker 3: to have a different type of hunger, fire and desire
Speaker 3: to cook up twenty. Go play the twenty. Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: we still got fifteen left. You only pick five. Go
Speaker 3: hustle the fifteen. Make another twenty nigga.
Speaker 4: Like every day four years straight.
Speaker 6: And remember this is like so, so we had an
Speaker 6: eight o'clock session, Me and Dre would be like, yo,
Speaker 6: we want to get in earlier to cook up.
Speaker 1: So we get we did.
Speaker 6: We'd at one o'clock. Cause you know, it's not like
Speaker 6: now you just pull up your laptop and make ten beats. No,
Speaker 6: this is like we had an equipment set up, our MPC, yeah,
Speaker 6: the keyboard.
Speaker 5: We had to go to the studio to produce these
Speaker 5: these these beats.
Speaker 6: So we was getting there ahead of time, cooking up
Speaker 6: for hours, food coming back.
Speaker 5: Joe gets there, were playing the vibes. Joe's like that one,
Speaker 5: that one, that one. The rest.
Speaker 6: The next day, like Jay said, we hustling them up,
Speaker 6: like yo, all the A and r's we're pulling up
Speaker 6: like we went from an RS, we met A and RS.
Speaker 6: They were like cooling who and then and then a
Speaker 6: couple of weeks later, Yo, where y'all I need I
Speaker 6: need a batch.
Speaker 1: So what's your first placement? Do you remember? Yeah?
Speaker 5: It was it was it was a combination.
Speaker 6: It was nineteen and the nineteen ninety nine it was
Speaker 6: Fat Joe King of New York featuring Bougiamon Tyan And
Speaker 6: then we had the two j T Money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had placement.
Speaker 5: So we had two on the JT Money album?
Speaker 1: Was he on Atlantic?
Speaker 4: We had that big song, Yeah, it just came off.
Speaker 6: So we had two records on the album called Blood
Speaker 6: Sweating Blood Sweating Years or something.
Speaker 5: Like that, and we did two records.
Speaker 4: We grew up listening to JT Money.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 4: It was a big deal for.
Speaker 5: Us to work with them. Absolutely, so simultaneous go three placements.
Speaker 6: But Joe, I remember we went in New York when
Speaker 6: the album dropped and I remember phone Flex, Remember when
Speaker 6: her phone Flex playing.
Speaker 5: It was the first.
Speaker 6: We always say, yo, if you got the album opener,
Speaker 6: it's a big deal because you set in the tone
Speaker 6: the rest of the album. That opener, that middle record
Speaker 6: and then that outro you're sitting you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 6: those are important records, and I remember us being in
Speaker 6: the car and for Master Flex dropping bombs on that.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know it was charging at this point.
Speaker 4: Oh no, it was.
Speaker 5: It was it was still for the law, but we
Speaker 5: were just appreciative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at the end of the day, it was I
Speaker 4: remember it was we we got fifteen hundred dollars for
Speaker 4: that beat, right, And when we started working with Tony Sunshine,
Speaker 4: Joe was like, YO, so how much y'all charging now?
Speaker 4: And it's like whatever, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: it's whatever, Joe, He's like, all right, y'all charge in
Speaker 4: fifteen thousand. Now, we called our attorney, call our manager
Speaker 4: and said, yo, new price alert because back then, you know,
Speaker 4: when a major artist, and you know, Joe's a major artist.
Speaker 4: Once the label paid that fifteen thousand, that's the going
Speaker 4: fifteen bands, Like you know what I'm saying. So you know,
Speaker 4: got a credit Joe too for that. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But what you was this that's O one
Speaker 4: oh two, two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: That's a good number for that time.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's why you gotta That's why you
Speaker 4: gotta salute. You gotta salute the icons. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I was having a conversation with some some
Speaker 4: young producers at the studio the other night, and I
Speaker 4: was like, Man, it's a different it's a different game now,
Speaker 4: like you know, coming up for me and cool. If
Speaker 4: you would have had two or three consecutive hits back
Speaker 4: to back to back, you could go make some real money,
Speaker 4: real money, because you could go That's what happened.
Speaker 1: We run.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had New York for job Rule and then
Speaker 4: for months later hated I love it and the whole
Speaker 4: the whole energy surrounded all the artists involved on those
Speaker 4: records and what it did. That's it's a historic you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's a it's a moment in
Speaker 4: the culture. So we're blessed to even be a part
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So we were able to take that energy and go
Speaker 4: hard and make a lot of hit records and a
Speaker 4: lot of great album records and put ourselves in a
Speaker 4: position to get seventy five thousand dollars for a beat,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you catch the motherfucker
Speaker 4: for a hundred because you don't even know where they are.
Speaker 4: They're big pop artists. They want you to do a
Speaker 4: remakes or something because we on fire. Let see if
Speaker 4: you get a hundred. But that only could happen because
Speaker 4: Timberland was getting to fifty. So you know, in your place. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and no matter how big, and no matter how hot
Speaker 4: we get or whatnot, you know, we respect the icons,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know that's why
Speaker 4: you sit down and you say thank you for real
Speaker 4: for getting two hundred and fifty thousand a beat or
Speaker 4: whatever at that time, you know, because it allows us
Speaker 4: to say, I, yo, shit, you giving them that. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, We madd at seventy five, you
Speaker 4: get four for what you're paying for one.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So we used to be getting four or five records
Speaker 4: on albums at a time because that was the jug, right,
Speaker 4: So you know. So I'm telling these young guys at
Speaker 4: the studio, I'm just like, man, it's different for y'all,
Speaker 4: you know because nowadays, when you look at the credit
Speaker 4: the credits, it's twelve thirteen names, yeah, in that producer section, bro,
Speaker 4: And it's like, man, it's hard to shine and collaboration
Speaker 4: is amazing. I love it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I think collaboration is great. We've collaborated, what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: in the past five seven years, we've collaborated with producers
Speaker 4: more than we ever had. You know, we come from
Speaker 4: you know, we come from an era where the guys
Speaker 4: that were at the top we're still talking about today.
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, these guys are like different,
Speaker 4: Like you know, when the Neptunes went on their run,
Speaker 4: it was a different type of run, Like you've never
Speaker 4: seen nothing like that. Like you know, I can remember
Speaker 4: me cool, just like we had to come up when
Speaker 4: in two thousand and one when fucking Pharrell had Britney Spare, well,
Speaker 4: let me respect, the Neptunes had Britney Spears. I'm a
Speaker 4: slave with an in sync fucking girlfriend record and the
Speaker 4: Nori super.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just like, you know, if that's if
Speaker 4: that's the person that's set in the standards and you
Speaker 4: respect the craft and you're trying to be great, you
Speaker 4: got to really work hard to even you know, get
Speaker 4: into that same space, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: so but these kids now, man, it's like it's ten
Speaker 4: motherfuckers on the record. I ain't saying nothing wrong with it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: But you don't you don't really know who to call facts.
Speaker 4: You know, it's so much and and but there's more,
Speaker 4: there's more avenues now because you know, as a producer
Speaker 4: you can go really put together, craft the album and
Speaker 4: create your artist page on Spotify and go hard, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And there's there's guys like today
Speaker 4: that that like, you know, like I appreciate what they're
Speaker 4: doing in in the culture, Like I really appreciate what
Speaker 4: someone like a metro Booming is doing, Like I that
Speaker 4: is very that feels very what's the word.
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: I know what that feels like me? Like when I
Speaker 4: watch that, I'm like I can resonate with what he's doing.
Speaker 4: That feels like it comes from the lineage, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Just in today's time, he's doing everything
Speaker 4: possible to touch the culture, you know, and doing it
Speaker 4: in a creative way, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: not to say that there aren't producers that's you know,
Speaker 4: really killing shit, you know what I mean, Because there
Speaker 4: are it's just a different time.
Speaker 3: It's just like you guys came up in a time
Speaker 3: where as we all came up in a time where
Speaker 3: identity was a thing, right, and so you wanted to
Speaker 3: be identified as a certain thing so that people knew
Speaker 3: exactly who to call for what, and and we all
Speaker 3: love the collaborations. And I say the same thing the artists,
Speaker 3: right when artists are like, man, I got this joint,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if I get Drake on, this is over.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, if you get Drake on it,
Speaker 3: it's no longer your song, and every time you come
Speaker 3: out on stage, they're going to be looking for Drake.
Speaker 3: I said, But if you can just sustainablish your identity
Speaker 3: first first, even if it's mid don't matter.
Speaker 1: You're can establish you that that.
Speaker 7: Like the young kid right now that got the record
Speaker 7: for Beats, you know what I'm saying. He got the
Speaker 7: record and Drake ended up hopping on a remix, but
Speaker 7: that record was already established as a four best record,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And the record is incredible,
Speaker 7: and now Drake's on it. Cool, Now it takes it.
Speaker 7: Now we go to the level, to the next level.
Speaker 7: But he established that record by himself. He didn't wait
Speaker 7: hoping he'd get a feature.
Speaker 5: Right feature king to him, I'm jumping on that.
Speaker 1: He was building. They saw him building a house that man,
Speaker 1: I want a room in there, you know, I need
Speaker 1: a floor in there? Can I can?
Speaker 3: I get involved? And so it's like we still have
Speaker 3: to maintain we still have to maintain that conversation with
Speaker 3: these young artists and these young producers and this listen,
Speaker 3: build your thing so that they have to come to
Speaker 3: you to get that that They got to come to
Speaker 3: that visuality as well though. And it's carving out your space, right.
Speaker 7: It's like it's like anything, you know, people send us music,
Speaker 7: people send you guys music all the time. I don't
Speaker 7: want to hear what I've already heard. I just don't
Speaker 7: I get that from them. And that's cool that you
Speaker 7: sound like such and such, But what about sounding like you?
Speaker 7: Even if that sound people may frown upon it at
Speaker 7: one point, you know what I mean? But establish who
Speaker 7: you are. Like I love when someone comes with a
Speaker 7: refreshing new voice.
Speaker 1: Oh give you on Friday.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like Daniel Caesar, like those
Speaker 7: guys sound like themselves. You know what I'm saying, khalive,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like these these guys sound
Speaker 7: like themselves, Like I don't want to hear fifty seven
Speaker 7: Chris Browns.
Speaker 1: Y'all not him.
Speaker 7: Bro, can't flip from the top rop that's different. But
Speaker 7: they all want to because they think he's the cheat
Speaker 7: code and that's cool. And I'm sure I'm going to
Speaker 7: ask him next time. I'm like, you're tired of this ship,
Speaker 7: a little bit tired this shit, man, Don't have me
Speaker 7: just be out here thinking like I'm just the one
Speaker 7: of the only one tired of here fake Chris Browns.
Speaker 4: But it's a great reference.
Speaker 7: It's become a it's become like an epidemic of it.
Speaker 7: Like it's like, bro, like be you, because as you
Speaker 7: get people to buy into you, they continue to push
Speaker 7: you up because they tell somebody about you. Have you
Speaker 7: heard such and such? Yo, his voice is crazy or
Speaker 7: I don't really get it all the way, but I
Speaker 7: feel it. And this is same thing with the music,
Speaker 7: same thing, same thing with the production side of it. Yes,
Speaker 7: you can get on the radio by sounding like somebody
Speaker 7: else's song, but it's another thing to have a sound.
Speaker 1: It's another thing to have a sound. What is what
Speaker 1: is the first hit record?
Speaker 4: The first hit was it was New York, New York,
Speaker 4: and we knew it because we was we were living
Speaker 4: in New York at that time, so a lot of
Speaker 4: records that we did that were like album fillers would
Speaker 4: get played in the mix. So we got hot that
Speaker 4: way too, like you know, so shout out all the
Speaker 4: DJs definitely that that have always like rinsed our records,
Speaker 4: even though even if they weren't singles, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I can remember we were in l
Speaker 4: a for like the first time, and we was at
Speaker 4: the mandre back when the Mandre yea to the skybar.
Speaker 4: And the only reason me Cool could get in that
Speaker 4: bitch is because we're staying at the hotel. The hotel
Speaker 4: because that them people was gonna let us in that
Speaker 4: other way, right, So we in there and were chilling
Speaker 4: and you know it got the models and whatnot mean cool.
Speaker 4: We like, yo, this is five and out of nowhere,
Speaker 4: they put New York on the DJ New York and
Speaker 4: the whole crowd start singing at me cool, like they
Speaker 4: know this shit. They thought it was just a New
Speaker 4: York record and it wasn't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and that was the first time like we were like okay.
Speaker 4: And what was dope was when when we did that record.
Speaker 4: You know, it was originally a beat we gave the
Speaker 4: Joe and you know it was it was a different
Speaker 4: sounding type of beat. At that time, it wasn't too
Speaker 4: many records or beats that felt like that. Everybody was
Speaker 4: still like doing a lot of soul flips and whatnot.
Speaker 4: And Joe was like, I like this, man, but it's
Speaker 4: it's different. And we kept trying to press him like
Speaker 4: we recorded this, I'm telling you it's that shit, and
Speaker 4: he's like, nah, y'all could go ahead and play for
Speaker 4: somebody else. Was like, all right, cool. So Joe Rule
Speaker 4: and IRV and all of them are down here working
Speaker 4: on the album. So I go over there and I
Speaker 4: pressed play on the beat and IRV loses it. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 4: this shit is crazy. Yo, But dre put one of
Speaker 4: them hooks you'd be doing, man, put a hook on there.
Speaker 4: So I go back to the spot we was using
Speaker 4: at the time.
Speaker 5: Remember joh, I mean Jada kiss had to be I
Speaker 5: didn't know the Jada kiss.
Speaker 6: After Joe said, y'all, now, y'all go ahead and Andy,
Speaker 6: y'all go ahead and and get you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: send it to other people. First person I said it
Speaker 6: was Jada because we had been talking. I'm like, yo, Jada,
Speaker 6: I sent you a vibe and Jada's like, yo, son,
Speaker 6: this is crazy.
Speaker 5: I messed with it all right?
Speaker 4: Cool, So I didn't know nothing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, cause people get beats, they say yo,
Speaker 5: I'm with it.
Speaker 6: And so I'm a type of person I don't like
Speaker 6: to mention ship unless it's done, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that was one of those that I didn't even mentioned.
Speaker 5: I'm like, could we get that all the time?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: So we're at the studio right, and Dre's like, y'all,
Speaker 6: I'm put a hook on this vibe so I'll never
Speaker 6: forget it. I'm laying on the couch right because that's
Speaker 6: what we're just vibing up in the studio in the garage,
Speaker 6: and Dre got the beat going on NPC and he's like,
Speaker 6: and I just started mumbling A hundreds two hundred clips
Speaker 6: and from New York and I had it to New
Speaker 6: York because there was a KRS one hook that popped in.
Speaker 5: My head's like, hold on, what's that. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's a k RS one vibe. He was like singing
Speaker 5: again and J was like, and Drake came.
Speaker 4: With the I got clips Nigga from New York and
Speaker 4: I finished off the whole ship after and.
Speaker 5: Then we go to the Hit Factory. Go to the
Speaker 5: Hit Factory. We dre sings that he goes.
Speaker 6: J was like, y'all got a hook idea and her
Speaker 6: was like, yo, go later, go later. Reference J goes
Speaker 6: in there and lays it down, Joy walks and he was.
Speaker 4: Like, yo, what is this?
Speaker 5: And it was history from that. So the crazy thing
Speaker 5: is he's like, yo, I know just who to get
Speaker 5: on this. Who was the first part he said Nas.
Speaker 4: First was like yo. Before he said that, he's like, Yo,
Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna put on this. We're gonna put
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna put Joe Crack and Nas. And
Speaker 4: then when he said Joe Cracker was.
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna give us pressure over It was.
Speaker 4: IRV calls Joe and he's like, yo, man, your guys
Speaker 4: came over here and gave us one this and that.
Speaker 4: He's like, listen to this ship and he's playing it
Speaker 4: and all you hear through the phone is that's my beat.
Speaker 4: That's my beat.
Speaker 1: That's my beat.
Speaker 4: So I get the phone. He's like, yo, Drake, why
Speaker 4: are you giving niggas my beat? That's my beat? I said, yo, bro,
Speaker 4: you said you ain't want to beat no more. But yeah,
Speaker 4: but and it had that hook on it. Nigga put
Speaker 4: that hook on it, so you know, it was all loved.
Speaker 4: Joe was like, all right, cool, and then IRV tried
Speaker 4: to get Nas, but Nas is like out the country
Speaker 4: or something at the time, so he's like, man, you know,
Speaker 4: Noa's out the country. I know exactly who I'm I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put Jada Kiss on it, and then cool. It
Speaker 4: was like, oh I forgot about it, so I had
Speaker 4: to be had.
Speaker 5: But Jada was cool.
Speaker 6: He's like, I saw good, I ain't cut it yet,
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. So when IRV hit him, it's just
Speaker 6: crazy that all.
Speaker 4: The it's just you can't even make the shut up.
Speaker 4: So on the reference track, just warming up, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is this is I'm just warming my voice up.
Speaker 4: And so when it was time to mix it, I
Speaker 4: was selling to engineer, Yo, you could cut that shit off,
Speaker 4: like that's just me doing a reference. It was like, nah, yo,
Speaker 4: that shit is dope as fun.
Speaker 5: Not leave that ship first produce.
Speaker 4: A tag, yeah, and when we shoot the video draw
Speaker 4: I want you in there, man, do your thing. Let
Speaker 4: him know, And then it ended up being a tag
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, So, you know, shout
Speaker 4: out to Earth for that. But you know that's how
Speaker 4: that that record came. And then the crazy shit is
Speaker 4: like four months later that record is still doing his thing,
Speaker 4: but at the same time it's creating. It's creating like tension.
Speaker 1: In the city.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know at that time, you know, Job
Speaker 4: was in a space where you know, people were really
Speaker 4: really counting him out, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: you can't blame him because you know, fifty cent dropped
Speaker 4: this classic album, right that was just like you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a classic, right, So people were really counting them out.
Speaker 4: So this song was just like it gave him new
Speaker 4: life and it was just the hottest record of the summer,
Speaker 4: and so it created at tension, these guys all start
Speaker 4: beefing with each other out of nowhere, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and then hated the love it comes out
Speaker 4: with had y'all already done, It had already been done,
Speaker 4: you already recorded that. We didn't even know. We didn't
Speaker 4: know it sounded like until the album drop Man, we heard.
Speaker 5: That we didn't put it this. So we got a
Speaker 5: call like, Yo, y'all got a placement on on Games album?
Speaker 1: Y'all know what beats?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 4: Ship.
Speaker 6: They're like, yo, y'all got a placement, give us your attorney,
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. Like, Yo, we got a placement on
Speaker 6: on this game. I'm just like a word, that's what's up?
Speaker 1: BLA.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know what beat it was. A week
Speaker 5: and a half later, I'm in the car and I
Speaker 5: hear the damn song you hated Love It on the radio.
Speaker 4: On the radio, dog, I called Dre, So now I
Speaker 4: know the beat.
Speaker 5: This ship is on the radio.
Speaker 8: So they've done the business for it. Everything shit that record.
Speaker 4: That record. Remember the story I told you about going
Speaker 4: to fifteen thousand dollars a beat.
Speaker 1: As a Joe.
Speaker 4: That record is the reason that we started getting four
Speaker 4: points off rip on every record we produced. Because they
Speaker 4: put the album out, they didn't do no business. Our
Speaker 4: attorney was trying to get the business done before the
Speaker 4: album dropped, and she kept telling them like, yo, y'all
Speaker 4: can't put the album out. Y'all ain't even do the business. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this ship came out. She's like, Okay, now I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get you four points forty thou it got.
Speaker 6: What happened was the song got leaked, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And before that, the right when the album dropped,
Speaker 6: the song was already doing twelve hundred Dreams of Spinds
Speaker 6: a week smash. It was out of here because there's
Speaker 6: the Remember the original single.
Speaker 4: Was Dreams Dreams that shot a video.
Speaker 6: They had shot a video to it and everything already,
Speaker 6: so they had to switch gears. But we I found
Speaker 6: out what beat it was on the radio.
Speaker 5: Oh my big gable. Of course, it gave us leverage,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. The business property was it was.
Speaker 4: It was out of here before it was a life
Speaker 4: changer because what happened was and guess what, no one
Speaker 4: else knew we did the beat all right, because they
Speaker 4: don't have the tag either anything. No one else knew
Speaker 4: we did the beat.
Speaker 1: So we go.
Speaker 4: We we in la at Marvin Gaye Studio because Mary J.
Speaker 4: Blige wants to work with us because they hated to
Speaker 4: love it. She's like, I worked with the niggas who
Speaker 4: didn't hate her to love it. But mind you back
Speaker 4: to the point about the tension. The first time I
Speaker 4: heard the record was in the back seat of Escalade
Speaker 4: with Fat Joe in the front seat and his manager
Speaker 4: at the time, and they're playing the record like fucking crazy. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: Joe Krack and fifty Cent hate each other, and I'm
Speaker 4: in the back seat like this and niggas is looking
Speaker 4: at me. I didn't know, and they're like yo. And
Speaker 4: then Joe loves us so much, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But Joe got a lot of a lot of street
Speaker 4: guys with her, and all of them this nigga man,
Speaker 4: yo crack yo, So.
Speaker 8: It's hard to celebrate your biggest record, right.
Speaker 4: But it's all love. It's all love, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's called family business, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's it's family. That's why we family. So, but no
Speaker 4: one outside of the circle new we did the record.
Speaker 4: So we get called to go to La to work
Speaker 4: with with Mary and she's like, yo, I need hated
Speaker 4: to love it. I need that. That's the fuck I
Speaker 4: need y'all do what y'all need to do. And I
Speaker 4: think shar Garrett was the writer in the studio at
Speaker 4: that time, and me and Cool was just playing beats,
Speaker 4: playing beats, and we really didn't catch any chemistry with
Speaker 4: Sean that that day in that session, like nothing really
Speaker 4: came of it.
Speaker 1: So we go.
Speaker 4: Now we're in in in Atlanta because Jeezi wants to
Speaker 4: work with us because he wants to work with the
Speaker 4: guys who did the New York Beat. And he's like, Yo,
Speaker 4: that synthesized the sound that y'all gotten that New York.
Speaker 4: So I'm telling all my niggas, YO, listen to that,
Speaker 4: make ship like that. I want them. Since I said,
Speaker 4: fuck it, might as well call the niggas who did
Speaker 4: the beat Man. So we get to New York.
Speaker 5: I need one of them.
Speaker 1: I need. So we go over there, and you.
Speaker 4: Know, as producers at that time, we never wanted to
Speaker 4: repeat the sauce like we were so hell bent on
Speaker 4: creating a new sound, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So Jez's telling us to our face, give me New
Speaker 4: York and being Cool to do everything. Horn Records, Sailpol Records.
Speaker 1: We've we've all been there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We didn't know.
Speaker 5: Remember, we got two hits simultaneous. We didn't know how
Speaker 5: to Let's let's use the same sauce.
Speaker 4: We ain't know, right, So we're telling the nigga, Yo,
Speaker 4: you know we did that Hated Love It record. He's like, what, Yeah,
Speaker 4: we did the hat of the Loving record. He' said, Man,
Speaker 4: I you know, y'all niggas did that shit. Man, that shit,
Speaker 4: that shit a smashed nigga. So we're trying to give
Speaker 4: him everything else. While we're in that session. Yeah, literally,
Speaker 4: we get the call from Mary in the Gezy session.
Speaker 4: She goes, look, I wanted to work with y'all so bad.
Speaker 4: I know we couldn't do anything. You know, we couldn't
Speaker 4: cook up anything new. So I said, fuck it. I
Speaker 4: just sang over the fucking hated I Love It beat,
Speaker 4: did it myself. I'm gonna send it to y'all now.
Speaker 4: So when we listen to it, as Mary j Blibe
Speaker 4: singing overheted love It. At the end of the record,
Speaker 4: she goes, cooling, dre this beat is hot. And when
Speaker 4: that remix came out, it was game over because we
Speaker 4: were still the only recognition we were getting for as
Speaker 4: producers was the New York Record and the New York
Speaker 4: that was a hit. So then when the Merry remix
Speaker 4: came out, I said, Cool and Dre this beat is hot.
Speaker 4: Niggas was like, Okay, hold up the same niggas who
Speaker 4: did that?
Speaker 1: Did that?
Speaker 4: That's impossible. It's completely different sounds. And then that's when
Speaker 4: our life like really changed, like we I can remember
Speaker 4: being in Mansion and us Man and Forrell seen us
Speaker 4: and he left his table to come over to like
Speaker 4: show love and me and Cool was like, we need
Speaker 4: to be showing you love, like like we we look
Speaker 4: and copping please for no reason. We're like, hey, yo,
Speaker 4: listen all them articles saying that we're the next Neptunes.
Speaker 4: We never told him that, Like we're mad we keep
Speaker 4: they made that ship. I'm like, I'm telling him like
Speaker 4: and he's like, Yo, don't even worry about I'm just
Speaker 4: letting you know, like we're upset about it too.
Speaker 1: Just even knows about article.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And he was just like, Yo,
Speaker 4: that baseline, that baseline on that record is is forever man.
Speaker 4: Y'all got a forever, y'all got a classic forever I
Speaker 4: was like, yo, you're at the New York Record we did,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, and like he went
Speaker 4: on his way.
Speaker 5: Shout out the Doctor Dre for putting the most amazing
Speaker 5: in history ever on a record, like.
Speaker 4: It won't come out until he's what's ill is when
Speaker 4: we did we we would there were certain things that
Speaker 4: we would emulate, not emulate. We would take a gem,
Speaker 4: so Doctor Dre would he would do on his choruses.
Speaker 4: He would add a tambourine to a snare, and he
Speaker 4: wouldn't do it on every snare. He would do it.
Speaker 4: He would do it on one snare, let the other
Speaker 4: one breathe, and then do it on another snare. So
Speaker 4: on Hated I Love It did that. We did the
Speaker 4: exact same, not knowing it was ever going to do.
Speaker 1: To Dre.
Speaker 4: It was just a gem we picked up from him.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I can remember when we our first meeting with Jimmy
Speaker 4: Iveen and it was about some whole other shit years
Speaker 4: later and we're sitting there and like remind him, like, yo,
Speaker 4: you know we did the Hated to Love It and
Speaker 4: he was just like, that's one of the top five
Speaker 4: records in my top five records in my career period,
Speaker 4: like of anything I produced or anything was on my label.
Speaker 4: He's like, let me hear, let me, let me hear
Speaker 4: that beat before Trade did what he did to it.
Speaker 1: So me cool.
Speaker 4: We didn't understand what he was saying before Dre mixed it.
Speaker 4: You know, I want to hear what I want to
Speaker 4: hear before doctor Drake opens up the laptop, puts the
Speaker 4: speakers on and plays the beat. Jimmy goes, it's the
Speaker 4: same thing. It was not that you know, you know
Speaker 4: Drake is who he is and worship from, but you know,
Speaker 4: it was really like he couldn't believe it.
Speaker 5: He put a hell of a mix.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying was already close exactly like
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 5: He was gonna here straight like like the.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna do that to my man, We couldn't fit.
Speaker 4: It's a mission to get in.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on man. But man, you know the.
Speaker 6: So Dre did have shout out Mike Alezando, I mean
Speaker 6: shout out just Dre and everything that he did.
Speaker 5: Man, but he put he had him play the bass over.
Speaker 6: Because you know, you know, as music producers, musicians, it's
Speaker 6: all about the chains that bass chain that Dre has
Speaker 6: vocal chain. You know, it's the best quality of everything.
Speaker 6: So when we got the credits, we saw bass by
Speaker 6: Mike Alexandro. I'm like, that's why the bottom man, Like
Speaker 6: when that comes on in the.
Speaker 5: Club today, it just cuts through. It cuts through like
Speaker 5: all he did was had the man.
Speaker 1: We're musicians, So it's the bass.
Speaker 3: It starts with the actual machine like it could be
Speaker 3: a custom machine just doesn't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: doesn't have the same like it could be.
Speaker 1: It's the pick up.
Speaker 5: People don't understand. It's not just whatever you pick up.
Speaker 1: First man.
Speaker 5: When we did when we did.
Speaker 4: My Life, we had My Life is the Game Future.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had the record, had an eight o eight
Speaker 6: and before we went to mix, we could we tried
Speaker 6: to cut the base on there like ten times with
Speaker 6: different bases.
Speaker 5: It kept the base kept clashing with the eight of eight.
Speaker 6: It kept canceling out, and I'm like, Yojoe, we got
Speaker 6: mix this where we got a deadline. Games like ya,
Speaker 6: we got to turn this shit in. We're like, we're
Speaker 6: at the NRG studios, remember we had Yeah, we had
Speaker 6: a NOD session with nas and we're NRG Studios and
Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, let's get it one last time.
Speaker 5: And the bass player called me. It's like y'all got
Speaker 5: a brand new base. They telling me this ship is
Speaker 5: the magic. I'm like, bring it through.
Speaker 6: We just to give it one last shot because we
Speaker 6: had to, uh, Steve and the other studio, Possifi had the.
Speaker 5: Mix up, like y'all just need the bass. So my man,
Speaker 5: the bass.
Speaker 6: Player, Lord of the Strings, we call him, he comes
Speaker 6: to the base still clashing. I'm like, damn, we're gonna
Speaker 6: have to We're just gonna have to keep the eight
Speaker 6: to eight. So then the assist an engineer, he's like,
Speaker 6: y'all want to try the glue. I'm like, the hell
Speaker 6: is the glue?
Speaker 5: He's like, hold on.
Speaker 6: So at NRG Studios even you know that studio in
Speaker 6: La Did, They have like Moroccan style room and shit
Speaker 6: super vibe. So they have a sex They have a
Speaker 6: room with all gear, vintage gear. So this guy walks in,
Speaker 6: opens his shit up and it's a p bass fender
Speaker 6: from nineteen fifty nine. You can't even see it's completely
Speaker 6: raw wood from all the it's exposed hooks.
Speaker 5: That ship up eight away comes on with the base
Speaker 5: and it's the marriage.
Speaker 1: It's crazy perfect.
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So when y'all get these records right, and y'all going
Speaker 7: from five hundred, seven hundred to fifteen hundred to fifteen
Speaker 7: thousand to forty plus four points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what y'all buy?
Speaker 7: Y'all had to buy something because now y're not just
Speaker 7: now y'are just not in the in the apartment playing gts.
Speaker 1: You can't look regularly in the apartment now.
Speaker 4: We you know my my advice cars like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I was hustling backwards when I
Speaker 4: was younger.
Speaker 5: Now was called we were signed to blow the bag records. Yea,
Speaker 5: lo blow the records were.
Speaker 4: Doing all the wrong stuffy you know, and I want
Speaker 4: to shot, but I don't want to cause them because
Speaker 4: it's nothing for love. We're working with Tyree, who we love.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's that's you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, that's fam and we're working and uh, he
Speaker 4: had to Batley and I can remember the Bentley the
Speaker 4: GT car right now. I like that Benley and he
Speaker 4: goes man. You know what I'm saying, You can get
Speaker 4: the belly easy. You know what I'm saying. You got
Speaker 4: a crib. I'm like, yeah, I got Creepy's like, man,
Speaker 4: it's pull equity out that bit ship. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: you could do that. He's like yeah, nigga. So like
Speaker 4: I think my first I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 4: the first splurge we had was when we bought to
Speaker 4: Escalade trucks, Escalade.
Speaker 5: As big as you can go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: With the twenty threes, and then right after that the
Speaker 4: Range when the new Range body came out, and then
Speaker 4: right after that you know, uh, the Bentley GT. Coop.
Speaker 5: At least we bought cribs though, No, no, the first
Speaker 5: thing we did was.
Speaker 4: We bought houses.
Speaker 1: We knew that much, so smart.
Speaker 4: No, that's the first thing I think, you know, I
Speaker 4: did not. Oh no, the first thing was bought cribs.
Speaker 4: And then but like you know, with cars and ship
Speaker 4: like that cool to tell you, I went, I went,
Speaker 4: I went. I went, stupid bro bro.
Speaker 1: Like, how many cars do you have? At once?
Speaker 4: I had seven cars parked out out front of my
Speaker 4: house and it was it was it was so disrespectful
Speaker 4: because all the cars combined costs more than what I
Speaker 4: bought the house for it. So that step one in
Speaker 4: Hustling backwards, you know. Part two is it's three garage house.
Speaker 4: You know, so it's now two cars in this one,
Speaker 4: one of the old schools in this one, and now
Speaker 4: you got four cars in the front and like two
Speaker 4: of them truck like you know, it was a lot.
Speaker 5: Of stuff with car covers on there.
Speaker 6: Association was like, yo, yall, can't keep car covers on
Speaker 6: all these cars like that.
Speaker 4: So the problem is because you don't have a ten
Speaker 4: car garage house. You know what I'm saying, I'm driving
Speaker 4: whatever is closest to the fucking curve, like meaning like
Speaker 4: I had the Ferrari and the and the and the
Speaker 4: Bentley in the in the in the garage. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: then I had the Keif for cure, I had the
Speaker 4: Bends and the fucking Maybac fifty seven s and the
Speaker 4: range Rover and the and the Escalade all of that.
Speaker 4: And if I wanted to take the Ferrari out to
Speaker 4: like go to the heat games we used to go
Speaker 4: all the time, I would have.
Speaker 5: To move all those yeah, and we had to move card.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 4: So like you know, when we started getting money, like
Speaker 4: if if if if splurging like for me, uh, with cars,
Speaker 4: and then another thing cooler and I did a lot
Speaker 4: was experienced, so you can't even see the money you spent.
Speaker 4: It only lives in your memories. Like these blind people
Speaker 4: in you're having dinners every night, the biggest suits, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And fortunately were blessed to be
Speaker 4: able to to to still maintain that. Like you know,
Speaker 4: we've seen so many horror stories, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So today we're still like you know, blessed to be
Speaker 4: able to like live a lifestyle. Thankfully we're smarter, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Now you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So now I'm not I'm I don't need seven. I
Speaker 4: don't need it, but I gotta have the coloring because you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. I mean, you must have gotta
Speaker 1: have the Wraith.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh, you have to have the Raith.
Speaker 4: I mean it because it just strives mooth once you
Speaker 4: once you once you're in it, you know, they call it,
Speaker 4: that's the magic carpet ride. Like once you want the
Speaker 4: magic carpet ride, you can't.
Speaker 1: You don't want to feel.
Speaker 4: Got the range?
Speaker 1: You name two cars over five.
Speaker 6: We got a lot smarter now now you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's like, you know, we didn't been there,
Speaker 6: We've done that.
Speaker 1: You're also in a different earning space too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your music and catalyg generated something crazy.
Speaker 6: I know it was a problem, man, because when we
Speaker 6: was we were spending a lot of money on that
Speaker 6: American Express.
Speaker 4: I ain't going that black car.
Speaker 5: And none a hold on. That's before the black car.
Speaker 6: When I call them people up and say, hey, I
Speaker 6: knew it was I knew it was serious when I
Speaker 6: called American Express to get the black car and the
Speaker 6: lady said, before I could hang up, the delivery man.
Speaker 1: He was here.
Speaker 8: They go, Oh, they couldn't wait to give y'all ship man.
Speaker 6: Look, I'm like talking to the lady. Then yes, the Centurion,
Speaker 6: no problem. It's twenty five hundred a year for each card.
Speaker 6: I said, Yeah, that's cool. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: My brother before I hung that phone up.
Speaker 4: Delivered a circle house.
Speaker 5: Them boxes came in with a metal case. They want
Speaker 5: you to spend so quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're good. They want you to go.
Speaker 5: They want you to go crazy.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, give thanks, man, because some people
Speaker 4: don't recover, you know, what I'm saying. Yeah, and and
Speaker 4: I think you know, for me and cool, like we've
Speaker 4: been in We've been in the game for two decades now.
Speaker 4: So in order to be in the game for two decades,
Speaker 4: you got to be in the valley a few of
Speaker 4: them years. You know what I'm saying. You start off,
Speaker 4: you start off in the valley, you feel me and
Speaker 4: then so that's what you know. So it ain't nothing
Speaker 4: wrong with it. You know you want to go further.
Speaker 4: When you go further, and then that valley starts knocking
Speaker 4: on your door, it's like, oh, ship, that's a whole
Speaker 4: new feeling. Yeah, that's all. And some niggas never recover
Speaker 4: from that first knock on the door where it's like, hey, yo,
Speaker 4: this shit you've been doing, you can't do it no more.
Speaker 4: For whatever reason. Some people have personal problems. Man, a
Speaker 4: family is sick, you know, niggas will be wondering why
Speaker 4: whatever happened to him it was winning. You never know
Speaker 4: what could be going on. And if you're a true artists,
Speaker 4: true creative, and you put your life into your work
Speaker 4: and you put passion the shit that you do, things
Speaker 4: like a mother or father having cancer will affect your work.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know, that's why you
Speaker 4: got to respect the people who just is like fucking
Speaker 4: so driven they don't let nothing, you know, slow them down.
Speaker 4: But most of us, yeah, because life happens. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So so you know, for me, cool,
Speaker 4: Like we've been in the valley a few times, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, thankfully, you know, you know, we're
Speaker 4: in a position now where we've lived and we've learned
Speaker 4: and know like you know, you know, certain urges that
Speaker 4: we have and you know, back in the day it
Speaker 4: don't even exist. Yeah, I think when you get to
Speaker 4: this point in your career and you're still somewhat relevant
Speaker 4: and you still have to impact our culture. And at
Speaker 4: the same time, for us, I think for like the
Speaker 4: last two three years, we've been leveraging our resume and
Speaker 4: you know, and our accomplishments and what we've accomplished in
Speaker 4: music to be able to open up new doors, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and new opportunities to do other
Speaker 4: things outside of the music space, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And and and that's been very good for us.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
Speaker 7: Let's talk like come on, let's talk about the business
Speaker 7: side of you know, this music thing for you guys outside.
Speaker 7: I won't even say the business side, the ancillary things
Speaker 7: that now, like you said, you guys have been able
Speaker 7: to leverage by you know, because we all have a
Speaker 7: moment in our careers period where we're like, Okay, the
Speaker 7: network has to be your network, right, you know, you
Speaker 7: have to be able to say, Okay, now, what can
Speaker 7: I do with the accomplishments that I've had and the
Speaker 7: things that I've learned in this game that can take
Speaker 7: me to other places? We should, right, everybody doesn't do that.
Speaker 7: I always preach. He always preaches that you should though,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, because what someone may think
Speaker 7: is done in this space over here, they're like, we've
Speaker 7: been waiting for you.
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's don't get no rider than what you
Speaker 4: just said. Man, the music business is a business. Where
Speaker 4: what have you done for me lately? All right? So
Speaker 4: you know, I remember our first time hitting the valley
Speaker 4: was just we had a label deal with Interscope, and
Speaker 4: we knew going into it. We said, yo, pay attention
Speaker 4: to all the other producers. When they started their own company,
Speaker 4: they got real quiet.
Speaker 5: Because they're trying to break their own artists.
Speaker 4: And if you don't pop your artists off, it gets tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you also go into a space where you
Speaker 3: dry up the market in terms of placing records. So
Speaker 3: you ignore those phone calls for so long till they stop.
Speaker 4: You're putting all your energy and it's yours now, so
Speaker 4: you're putting extra blood, sweat and tears.
Speaker 8: That's a whole new relationship. Yeah, it's a relationship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is yours. Like you want to break a
Speaker 4: new artist everyone as if you're a music producer, the
Speaker 4: goal is to cultivate new artists and introduce them to
Speaker 4: the world and and and hopefully they go on to
Speaker 4: become you know, icons, they go on to become like
Speaker 4: really big artists. So you look at a doctor Drean
Speaker 4: and see what he's done, from NWA to Snoop Dogg
Speaker 4: to Eminem to fifty cent. He had a hand in
Speaker 4: Kendrick Lamar himself as an artist. You you can't name
Speaker 4: too many records that Doctor dre has produced for I
Speaker 4: mean produced on that's not signed to him, right, Organized
Speaker 4: noise outcasts, Goodie mob, you know what I'm saying. Society
Speaker 4: is so you can't name too many records that they
Speaker 4: produced on that wasn't coming from their camp, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's how Cool and I always
Speaker 4: wanted to function. So when we did the Interscope deal,
Speaker 4: we put everything into that, all of our attention into it.
Speaker 4: And when you do that, other people are calling you
Speaker 4: for music and you don't give it to him, You're
Speaker 4: gonna be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: Right we neglected You're naturally gonna neglect the bread and
Speaker 6: butter because you know what, and trying to break your
Speaker 6: own you know label, So.
Speaker 4: You know, when you don't put something out there for
Speaker 4: like a year and a half, two years, and now
Speaker 4: the artists who were trying to break maybe it's not
Speaker 4: doing what it's supposed to do, all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you're ready to just you know, okay, shit, we gotta
Speaker 4: get back on our shit. The game might have passed
Speaker 4: you by, the sonics might have changed on you, because
Speaker 4: niggas is going to other people, you know, and that
Speaker 4: me and Cool found ourselves in that position, you know,
Speaker 4: around I can remember around like two thousand eleven, and
Speaker 4: in that time, you know what I'm saying, And you know,
Speaker 4: fortunately for us, you know what I'm saying. My man
Speaker 4: worked on the Jesus Peace album. You know, we work
Speaker 4: with Game and got ship cracking, and then Boom do
Speaker 4: all the way up with Fat Joe, and then you know,
Speaker 4: put out an artist Kent Jones at the same time
Speaker 4: and then Bom. You know, you remind niggas and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're not going to sleep on them no more, because
Speaker 4: they're gonna find a way to come back with you,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I think those experiences
Speaker 4: and being able to survive that people outside of the
Speaker 4: music business appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So if you've been in the game for twenty years
Speaker 4: as a producer or whatnot, and A and R might
Speaker 4: look at you and be like, yeah, man, but we
Speaker 4: want the new thing. We want the new hot thing.
Speaker 4: You know, it's okay for Rick Rubin to be in
Speaker 4: the game for thirty forty years. You know, I respect
Speaker 4: Rick Rubin on another level. I respect them just as
Speaker 4: much as y'all do. It doesn't work like that for
Speaker 4: us for in our culture, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, it's changing now because thankfully we're from a
Speaker 4: generation where a lot of the guys I grew up
Speaker 4: listening to like Cameron Mace, Fat Joe, like, these guys
Speaker 4: are really viable right now and fucking the game up
Speaker 4: in the media and killing the shit. So thankfully we
Speaker 4: from that era where you know, like okay, just a
Speaker 4: new day, you know what I'm saying. But in finance
Speaker 4: and other industries, they want to work with someone that's
Speaker 4: got a twenty year resume that looks like a Cool
Speaker 4: and Dre that have worked with jay Z, Beyonce, you know,
Speaker 4: fifty cent, Fat Joe, you know, Fallout Boy, Little Wayne,
Speaker 4: Like it's gonna go, It's gonna keep trust me. That
Speaker 4: is a long list of month and they're like okay,
Speaker 4: and they're still say they're still viable. They're gonna want
Speaker 4: to do business, you know. So one of the things
Speaker 4: that you know, Cool and I have done in the
Speaker 4: past two years is like this whole this whole wave
Speaker 4: of artists selling their catalogs and whatnot. You know, there's
Speaker 4: two ways to look at it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If you're smart and you have a plan, you know
Speaker 4: for what you're gonna do with that when you sell
Speaker 4: that asset, and you have a real plan on how
Speaker 4: to grow that money and make it work for you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Then great, go do that
Speaker 4: and if if if you still if your mind is
Speaker 4: still sharp, because this is the music business in the
Speaker 4: same sports. We just got to have a sharp mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do it forever.
Speaker 4: We could do this shit fever, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Then then go create a new catalog you mad at you,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Or do a deal with
Speaker 4: If your catalog exceeds whatever was forecasted, make sure whatever
Speaker 4: that is that's above the forecast, make sure that shit
Speaker 4: get busted down eighty twenty you get the eighty you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Every contract, no standard lego block
Speaker 4: shit is what you negotiate, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So a lot of that we've been in the space
Speaker 4: to where we've been working with you know, different financial
Speaker 4: institutions like a Franklin Templeton, working with different venture capital
Speaker 4: people in the tech space like an A sixteen Z.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Shout out Megan and Judine
Speaker 4: and everybody over there. To create different avenues for artists
Speaker 4: to use their IP to leverage it without having to
Speaker 4: divorce themselves from that asset. That's something that you want
Speaker 4: to do, you know what I'm saying. So that's something
Speaker 4: we've been doing. We've been blessed to be a part
Speaker 4: of this cannabis wave, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 4: we're venturing out to New York with that, blessed to
Speaker 4: be part of a great group of people doing that.
Speaker 4: So you know, we'll be in Manhattan real soon. Look
Speaker 4: out for us. And we're doing something really creative you
Speaker 4: know over there that's gonna be great for you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, people who like to smoke, and you know,
Speaker 4: people who are create music and everything like that. So
Speaker 4: you know, we got that going on. And we also
Speaker 4: created a new distribution company. It's called Nebula, and it's
Speaker 4: really cool because you know a lot of artists they
Speaker 4: make music and they find it hard to get their
Speaker 4: ship up on the DSPs or get their video up
Speaker 4: on YouTube. They say, it's easy as hell. I shot
Speaker 4: a video not too long ago, like a year ago,
Speaker 4: and still can't get that vitabar too right. So that
Speaker 4: made us say, okay, how can we make this easier?
Speaker 4: Because if we haven't problems trying to figure it out
Speaker 4: then I know, you know the person, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, you know, and we're in the era
Speaker 4: of everyone wants to be independent and everything, which is great.
Speaker 4: So let's create something for people to go and and
Speaker 4: be able to put their music throughout distribution and get
Speaker 4: their ship up on all the right all the DSPs,
Speaker 4: get the right looks at certain playlists and whatnot. And
Speaker 4: we've incorporated AI technology with our platform, which makes us unique,
Speaker 4: makes us different, you know. So there's a cool and
Speaker 4: dre you know, brain and the actual distribution platform. So kids,
Speaker 4: can you know, ask any questions on how to you know,
Speaker 4: what kick should I use, or what preset should I use?
Speaker 4: Or you know what I'm saying, how do I go
Speaker 4: about marketing and promoting my my my single or my
Speaker 4: video or whatever questions they have? You know, we have
Speaker 4: the technology that's going to answer it right on the spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's got to happen. Has to pull on
Speaker 1: my keyboard. That job was talking about keyboard, serious keyboard.
Speaker 1: New way I don't think is hold on, let me
Speaker 1: get to my damn muscles. You should have just.
Speaker 3: Picked up a grand piano and walked it upstairs. Man
Speaker 3: wouldn't be the same.
Speaker 1: Come on with it. I'm gonna sustain pedal either. So
Speaker 1: that's that you know, I'm really working this ship.
Speaker 3: Cool and dre You've you've been part of historical moments, Yes,
Speaker 3: they have, and now the people want.
Speaker 1: To know if you know your history.
Speaker 3: Come on, out of all the songs you've heard, out
Speaker 3: of all the tunes you've sampled.
Speaker 4: What is your.
Speaker 9: H T five, your top five? Come on, tip five,
Speaker 9: your top.
Speaker 1: Five all Revy singers?
Speaker 9: Oh wow, already songs?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, we've got to know.
Speaker 3: You got to show how many cars and how many boats?
Speaker 4: Your yes? Yeah, now top four you're stop five.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's serious. How many guys? How many boats?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: Top five R and B singers, Top five all time,
Speaker 4: all time time, Wow, all time?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with
Speaker 4: my favorite. All right, it's not even about them being
Speaker 4: like my favorite top five. De'angelo is gonna be the
Speaker 4: first one. Yeah, the second person I'm gonna put and
Speaker 4: don't even play with it. When I say the name,
Speaker 4: don't even play is gonna be Prince. And if you
Speaker 4: have a problem with it, if you have a problem
Speaker 4: with it, play Diamonds and Pearls because I know y'all
Speaker 4: want to be what you do. Let's go Crazy, which
Speaker 4: is a classic, played Diamonds and Pearls. Another guy that
Speaker 4: doesn't get the credit he's supposed to get as a singer.
Speaker 4: His name is Joe. You know, I love m J.
Speaker 4: Because MJ's voice is so pure. And if you watch
Speaker 4: the little documentary they put out the other day on
Speaker 4: We Are the World watching takes, don't play.
Speaker 1: You guys gon enjoy your world.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 4: Perfect I'll put Michael just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It just is what it is that that you know,
Speaker 4: just go back to and he was six years old
Speaker 4: singing man killing grown men?
Speaker 1: Right, all right?
Speaker 4: So MJ. And then last but not least, you know
Speaker 4: why he was a beast? You know what's crazy about?
Speaker 4: Why is a beast? But over the years I've started
Speaker 4: to really, really really appreciate them runs that Sean Stocker
Speaker 4: was getting off sciences that I mean, we we always
Speaker 4: you know, always kicked the door down at the end, yes,
Speaker 4: but man, that boy Sean Stockman got them run.
Speaker 1: With the runs too, was just oh you snuck that
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 4: Man, crazy. So last I'm gonna throw a female in there.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say name and and and you all know it.
Speaker 4: But the reason I'm saying this name is because we
Speaker 4: worked with her when she was fifteen years old, and
Speaker 4: I never heard a fifteen year old, sixteen year old girl.
Speaker 1: Sound like this.
Speaker 4: In fact, we did a record for her when she
Speaker 4: was signed a Job Records, But Barry Weiss shout out,
Speaker 4: Barry Weis.
Speaker 1: I know his son.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, but you know our medicin, so
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say nothing crazy. So we ended up
Speaker 4: giving the record to Christina Million. It's called say I
Speaker 4: and Christina killed it to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But the original of that was sung by a female
Speaker 4: name Jasmine Sullen, and she oh like when Miku heard
Speaker 4: her for the first time, we started champion her. We
Speaker 4: ain't never seen like that, never seen someone sitting down singing.
Speaker 4: So those are my five, you know, Jasmine Sullivan, Prince,
Speaker 4: m J. DeAngelo, and Joe. Those are those are my five.
Speaker 6: That's an amazing list. That's amazing list off off rip
Speaker 6: number five for me. You know, I'm I'm I'm an
Speaker 6: old soul at heart. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 6: would go Donnie Hathaway. Hmm, Donny Hathaway, just when that
Speaker 6: come on, it resonates with your with your bloodstreams, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Donny Hathaway.
Speaker 1: Number four Luther.
Speaker 5: Luther was just too smooth man. That ship was like.
Speaker 1: Like honey over the beat, cleanliness mhm.
Speaker 5: Personal favorite. I gotta put Lauren Hill in there there.
Speaker 4: You got to I ain't mad at you because she
Speaker 4: just she.
Speaker 6: Just ain't give us enough. And that one album was
Speaker 6: just like you play it today and it's like, I mean.
Speaker 4: She doesn't get the credit for being the artist that
Speaker 4: as an MC was at the very top of the
Speaker 4: MC class and as a scene made you forget.
Speaker 5: You forgetting forget the rapper. The rapper was second because fuck.
Speaker 4: And by the way, she's on the big screen too,
Speaker 4: she was active to talk, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I think she's a blueprint that sometimes people forget,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she just when that voice come on, it's just
Speaker 6: something about that tone. And when she get to singing
Speaker 6: some of them and her son Y G.
Speaker 5: Barley's got her on first single.
Speaker 4: Shout Out.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, dat Lenis though the Marley.
Speaker 4: And the cout. Congratulations on that.
Speaker 5: Number two.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 6: I would have to say m J as well. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Michael Jackson for sure, just too many,
Speaker 6: It's just too much. Voice was just immaculate. And then
Speaker 6: you know when you started like seeing some of all
Speaker 6: the songs, he was just writing on his little recorder,
Speaker 6: beat boxing.
Speaker 4: The whole hit, the whole hit Different, Different.
Speaker 6: Man was alien and one of my personal favorites. For
Speaker 6: my number one, I would have to say Marvin Gaye,
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what I'm saying. We had the honor of
Speaker 6: working in the studio, like Jay said, with Mary and
Speaker 6: we got they have this paint Have you been there
Speaker 6: in Marvin Gaye studio? So it's a it's a sunset
Speaker 6: and there's a painting on the wall. It's like ten
Speaker 6: feet by like six feet, and the painting comes with
Speaker 6: a book and the book each each portion of the painting,
Speaker 6: the book explained the part of his life, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And we was going through the as
Speaker 6: I was going through the book, you know you see
Speaker 6: on there like from a moment he passed away. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying the moment he was killed. But
Speaker 6: you see on there like all the stages of his life.
Speaker 6: He was the first guy to get a million dollar check,
Speaker 6: Barry Gordon. It was on there like the actual check,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, And it was like so
Speaker 6: you know, just that that experience of we felt his
Speaker 6: energy in there, you know what I'm saying, And yeah,
Speaker 6: that's my top five man, Marvin definitely.
Speaker 5: You know he's he's a goat. He's a goat.
Speaker 4: Great top five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what else you got form? I think I
Speaker 1: ain't got it.
Speaker 3: Play a grand piano, this little machine guy. Let me
Speaker 3: go to grand piano to him. Hey, I ain't saying
Speaker 3: no nigga. Hey, I ain't saying no names. I ain't
Speaker 3: saying no names. I ain't saying no name.
Speaker 1: Whe he was who was weird?
Speaker 9: What you did?
Speaker 1: Don't say she? I ain't saying no name.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, yo. Yeah, before you do anything. What's the kids?
Speaker 4: The kid's name that's got the outrageous voice with his
Speaker 4: natural is what you was on stage singing with.
Speaker 1: The mother.
Speaker 4: Every was cold as fuck. Not too manyiggas. Game that's
Speaker 4: cold blooded.
Speaker 1: He's not playing games on Listen on demand.
Speaker 4: That Nigga was singing some ship and it popped up
Speaker 4: on my TikTok, and my TikTok is usually aliens and
Speaker 4: all kind of Joe Rogan and I scrolled up and
Speaker 4: that Nigga was singing the Tavin Campbell and I just
Speaker 4: sat there and just listened to the ship. I said,
Speaker 4: what with with with extra extra sau And you know
Speaker 4: the algorithm catches you if you watch something long enough,
Speaker 4: So he just started flooding my ship. And then I
Speaker 4: seen you and him on stage, right, y'all was growing out.
Speaker 4: I was like him and why ye was on stage
Speaker 4: with him from boys.
Speaker 1: To men.
Speaker 5: And singing ship?
Speaker 4: I was, you know, why he ain't foling? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, ain't folding. But Wilson was giving him
Speaker 4: a run for his money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I just.
Speaker 4: Want to know.
Speaker 7: We got to shout him out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh
Speaker 7: blooded yeah, that brother is special. Well, you know, we've
Speaker 7: come to this moment. We've come to this moment. You know,
Speaker 7: my brothers are here. You know, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 7: have some you know, some good times. Right, So we
Speaker 7: got this segment of the show it's called I Ain't
Speaker 7: saying no names, right, Well, y'all tell us a story.
Speaker 7: Our stories funny, are fucked up, are funny and fucked up.
Speaker 7: But the only rule to the game you just can't
Speaker 7: say no names.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: So I need Cool and Dre's.
Speaker 7: Journey in the Times and the Life and Time, Life
Speaker 7: and Time, Miami's owns O.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 4: All right, So I ain't saying no names. But this
Speaker 4: is early in me and Cool's career. We were in
Speaker 4: New York and like we were saying earlier, you saying
Speaker 4: we had a we were buzzing without any hit. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, We're just buzzing off of the placements.
Speaker 4: We didn't even know what a placement was. I just
Speaker 4: learned the words placement like three years ago. We just hustled,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We make a music the
Speaker 4: niggas we fuck with, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then the young kid says, y'all got a placement?
Speaker 4: Fuck you talking about placement anyway. So we in the studio,
Speaker 4: we're working with an artist who's also is known for
Speaker 4: something else and very popular, very big. But this person
Speaker 4: also is taking a stab at being an artist and
Speaker 4: it's on an iconic collaboration song. That's iconic, all right.
Speaker 4: So we're working with this artist. We do a record,
Speaker 4: and we want to get the feature on the record.
Speaker 4: So this artist has this particular artist in mind because
Speaker 4: this artist is like had a buzz around them. It
Speaker 4: had a big single. So they booked the artists to
Speaker 4: come to the studio.
Speaker 1: To do He started laughing.
Speaker 2: Immediately, I swear rushed my brain so le I literally right,
Speaker 2: not just then passed out.
Speaker 4: I swear to god, Oh my god, I was gonna
Speaker 4: go yo, wow, damn my nigga. They booked the session.
Speaker 4: So the artist is in the studio. The feature artist
Speaker 4: is in the control room learning the parts and everything.
Speaker 4: Now the main artist who we produced the record for,
Speaker 4: pulls up to the studio. It's their session. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: they go in say what's up? Sits down, and the
Speaker 4: energy in the room is not like popping like that,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So the engineer, the future
Speaker 4: artist tells the engineer to tell the main artist, hey,
Speaker 4: can you wait in the lounge. You know they're catching
Speaker 4: the vibe and you know want their own space, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So the main artis like, no,
Speaker 4: it's no problem. We respect that. I respect that. I
Speaker 4: don't want to get it done. I don't want to
Speaker 4: buy a record.
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't want to buy So the lounge is next door, literally,
Speaker 4: like you know, walk out the control room, the lounge
Speaker 4: is there. Main artist sits on the sofa, turns on
Speaker 4: the TV. Low. Ten minutes, nobody comes in, nobody comes out,
Speaker 4: ten minutes go by. The engineer opens up the door,
Speaker 4: goes to the main artist and says, hey, so you know,
Speaker 4: you know, they not feel like really comfortable, like they
Speaker 4: want you to know, wait downstairs in the lobby if
Speaker 4: it's cool. So the main artists are, way, I'm in
Speaker 4: the lounge. I'm in the louch. I'm not bothering.
Speaker 9: It's just me.
Speaker 4: It's just me, you know, I can't. They just asked
Speaker 4: if you could wait downstairs. So the artists like, fuck
Speaker 4: I fuck it. I go downstairs. Sh'S my session.
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
Speaker 4: Goes down the stairs, turns the corner, go sits in
Speaker 4: the lounge of the studio by the front door, like
Speaker 4: this is a very very popular artists or anybody walking
Speaker 4: in that front door. We got a picture about forty
Speaker 4: minutes go by. The engineer walks down the stairs.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of no way, no way, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is not about to happen.
Speaker 5: No, I tell you this ship here, you can't make
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 4: It walks down the stairs, It goes to the artists
Speaker 4: and said, look, they're in the booth. They're trying to
Speaker 4: get it done. They asked me to see if you
Speaker 4: were still downstairs. So the artists like, oh, okay, they
Speaker 4: want me to come up. No, can you wait outside?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is fucking perhaps in your car.
Speaker 5: Outside?
Speaker 4: The artist goes the building. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4: What the fuck you want? Be away outside the fucking studio?
Speaker 1: Man, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you, Like, they asked
Speaker 4: me if you were down there, and if you're down there,
Speaker 4: that's why they can't get it done. So artists goes
Speaker 4: into the truck, into their into their car.
Speaker 1: What have you?
Speaker 4: Sits in there and they're stressing that. Like an hour
Speaker 4: later passes. They see the artists leave the studio, jump
Speaker 4: in the suv and drove off. So they're like, fuck,
Speaker 4: thank god, let's go and listen to what the fuck
Speaker 4: you know? It's been like three hours whatnot. They go upstairs,
Speaker 4: all right, let me hear what the let me hear,
Speaker 4: let me hear what they did. The engineer goes, they
Speaker 4: weren't really feeling the song, so.
Speaker 5: Br this ship can't make it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we heard the story.
Speaker 1: Was crying.
Speaker 5: We said, Yo, this is a story.
Speaker 4: This is exaggeration, right. The Edgindeary was right there, said, nah,
Speaker 4: I witnessed it. I played a role in it, like
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fun just happened. But that's
Speaker 4: that's the story. That's like, like to this day, it's
Speaker 4: one of the ill ship that.
Speaker 5: You pulled that one out. I wasn't even thinking that,
Speaker 5: but then that was a good one, right.
Speaker 4: No illmatic that ship was the only ship ever. So
Speaker 4: that's that's that's the story.
Speaker 5: I don't say no names, man, never the person who
Speaker 5: is the artist gonna see this. They gonna bust out,
Speaker 5: They're gonna hit.
Speaker 1: Us, like I would be looking for that artist. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be looking in the comments. I'm looking for the
Speaker 1: comment I was there never.
Speaker 4: Seen no ship like that. That's that's that's one of
Speaker 4: the ill ships that I've never seen nothing like that ever.
Speaker 1: No, So there you go. Well, my brother's cool and
Speaker 1: dre again. Man.
Speaker 3: We we first of all, we can't thank you enough
Speaker 3: man for taking your time out and coming up here
Speaker 3: and just you know, giving us an opportunity to give
Speaker 3: you your flowers, man, and and giving our community an
Speaker 3: opportunity man to just hear the journey man, hear the here,
Speaker 3: hear the mountaintops, here, the valleys lows man, and and
Speaker 3: and hear how you've come out on the other side
Speaker 3: of all of those things and some into some really
Speaker 3: really great things.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: We're proud of you, man, like we look at you
Speaker 1: and see you like, okay.
Speaker 4: Appreciate the big fans of the podcast. Yeah, killing it.
Speaker 4: I'll be I'll be singing harmony with your niggas, but
Speaker 4: I'm at the crib sing.
Speaker 1: Oh not that I know. Don't worry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't worry about We're going to be the future.
Speaker 1: These records done.
Speaker 4: I'm ready, stay ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't thank you guys enough man.
Speaker 6: And when you get ready to put that music, got
Speaker 6: run one of them new singles through Nebulas.
Speaker 5: We're gonna show it that extra.
Speaker 4: To reck it out right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, really, well, let's go, Lord, is the Lord's
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 6: I wanted to mention this because you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Like at the end of the day, me and Dre Man,
Speaker 6: you know, we we all spiritual brothers, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, And we definitely believe that God is the
Speaker 6: reason we're even still here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And you know we believe Cole heartily like and just
Speaker 5: have patience in his plan for your life, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget, man, when we was in our
Speaker 6: journey early on, you know, everything, I felt like everything
Speaker 6: in life there's a.
Speaker 5: Purpose for it, like this this interview, it is a
Speaker 5: purpose for it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: When me and Dre was doing I'll never forget when
Speaker 6: we were doing the R and B thing. We was
Speaker 6: doing performance and we perform in like different places, and
Speaker 6: our manager at the time, he had us perform at
Speaker 6: this at this hospital, right and this this always stayed
Speaker 6: with us because of what happened after. So we performing,
Speaker 6: we were in the cancer ward and we're performing for
Speaker 6: all terminally ill kids and I.
Speaker 5: Remember there's this girl in the front. She was just
Speaker 5: smiling and.
Speaker 6: Just like we was dancing, singing for the kids, and
Speaker 6: we're taking pictures and you know what I'm saying, signing
Speaker 6: little autographs and left it at that. A couple of
Speaker 6: days later, our manager caused us, He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 6: you wouldn't believe what happened to the girl that was
Speaker 6: sitting in the front. Her mom called me she wanted
Speaker 6: the pictures in the video that we shot because the
Speaker 6: day after she said she hadn't seen her daughter smile
Speaker 6: in years, and this is the first time she's seen
Speaker 6: her smile in years. Was when we performed for her
Speaker 6: and she passed away and me and Dre we were
Speaker 6: at Taco Yeah, like the next day she passed away
Speaker 6: and me and Dre were you know, we ain't had
Speaker 6: that bag like that, so we was always a Taco
Speaker 6: Bell was the cheapest thing to eat, so we would
Speaker 6: we would pull up at Taco Bell, grab our food
Speaker 6: after we left my mom's garage, and we would park
Speaker 6: at the Taco Bell and just talk and then just eat.
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget, I said, you know, Dre, what
Speaker 6: if what if the sole purpose of the group that
Speaker 6: God put together, the sole purpose was to make this
Speaker 6: girl smile one last time? And that's the end of
Speaker 6: the group. And what if me and you are meant
Speaker 6: to be big producers? And Dre was like, nah, we
Speaker 6: about to be the biggest R and B singers in
Speaker 6: the game. I was like, I'm just saying, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, you don't know. And it just so
Speaker 6: happened that look at us now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: and this is like we had nothing, this is pre
Speaker 6: is this is like this is we just bought our keyboard.
Speaker 6: I said, what if God the whole plan was for
Speaker 6: the group to get together to make this girl smile
Speaker 6: one last time when she went to heaven from her mom,
Speaker 6: and bring us together to make music. And it was like,
Speaker 6: you know that that stuck with me because I felt like,
Speaker 6: you know, God has definitely had had his hand in
Speaker 6: our career from our whole career, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And we've always been like.
Speaker 6: Yo, when it's God's time, it's God's time. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, just leave it in his hands.
Speaker 5: And we just hear man. We just honored to be
Speaker 5: here with y'all brothers, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, we go we go.
Speaker 6: Like when I seen he when he hit me, He's like,
Speaker 6: YO were in Miami. I said, man, you still got
Speaker 6: the same number. That's how you know you're dealing with
Speaker 6: some good brothers, you know what I'm saying. Like, my
Speaker 6: man got the same number. I was like, of course,
Speaker 6: be an honor man, because at the end of the day, y'all,
Speaker 6: y'all can't leave Miami without having cooland jail. So it's
Speaker 6: the honor to be here with y'all man.
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