1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: myself LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: fs R. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what's going on? 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: Happy Sunday to you. It's not Sunday. Happy Monday to you. 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: I didn't go to sleep last night, Jeff. You know 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm still sucking that. 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how. You just don't sleep. 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: My body won't let me, dude. I would love to 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: go to sleep like a normal human being, but I'm 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: a vampire. I don't know what it is with the 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: early morning hours where you know, it's around midnight. The 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: show starts at three am West Coast time, and I'd 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: love to get a couple hours. My body's just like, no, no, 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: you don't go to bed this early. What are you doing? 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: And then Oreo wanted in the neighborhood cat. So I 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: gotta let Oreo in. We just hung out for a. 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Little while, you know, after this though. 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll sleep for you know, yeah, I'll sleep for 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: hours after this show. But yeah, I don't know. I 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: just can't. I can't get it done, can't do it. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: You're here, though, I'm here. 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fired up to be here too. So I 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: love this drop. We were just talking about movies off 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: the year for a second. For some reason, I saw 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: a Matt Damon commercial, you know, the Matt Damon commercials 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: with what's the soccer player dude's name? I know he's 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: way more famous than Matt. 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: David. 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: Who's the guy. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: On the Guys? 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: No? No, it's uh Beckham, It's Beckham. Yeah, my gosh, wow, 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: yeah David Beckham. 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: But I was just asking Lee Robert de Lap, the 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: fourth our trusted producer here, what his favorite Matt Damon 43 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: movie was, and so we were talking about that. So, uh, 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: while we're talking movies here, this is the famous U 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: drop from one of the Soft ranchise movies. 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: I want to play a game. 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I want to play a game. How about we play 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: a game right here, Jeff. So this is the way 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna work, all right, very simple concept. I'll throw 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: out a couple of quarterbacks and you tell me if 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: it's a mistake or if it makes sense that they 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: got zero playing time in week one of the preseason. Okay, 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: all right, very simple concept here, and shout out to 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: about my grade school football coach, coach Ray Garza. Jeff, 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: he was known for this. Shout out to coach Garza. 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: If we messed up, he would just yell, like, mistake 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: and then we'd have to do grassers at the end 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: of practice. You know, a mistake equaled five updowns if 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: you will so you can you can channel your inner 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Ray Garza if you would like, and really a mistake, Yeah, 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: just yell it, get into it. Is it a mistake 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: or does it make sense that Bear's quarterback case? 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: Mistake? 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: There? 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: I when when? When? When they when they ran out yesterday? 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: The starters ran out yesterday and he was not starting 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: quarterback and it was Badget. I couldn't believe it. I 68 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: do not understand. 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, the the the positives of him playing outweigh the 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: negatives by one hundred points, Like, it's not even close. 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: What are the negatives? He gets hurt? No, one gets 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: taken back. Very rarely do quarterbacks get hurt. You can't 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: say no one else because I'm very fantasy. Romo got 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: hurt nine years ago in the preseason. No one gets 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: hurt in the preseason. There there there was an entire 76 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: week of preseason football. How many starters in the National 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Football League got hurt playing in a game? 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think any of them. 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: Zero pay zero. So I didn't get it. Man, I'm 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: a little concerned about Chicago. I'm not gonna lie. I'm 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: a little concerned about it. 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: Oh, it's an absolute mistake, mistake. As coach Garza would say, Jeff, 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: just run down the list of reasons why. He's got 84 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: a new offensive line in front of him, at least 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: the interior offensive line completely new. He's got a brand 86 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: new head coach, a different concepts, like different playbook. All 87 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: of it is different. He's got some different playmakers around 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: him as well. Why wouldn't you get him on the 89 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: field and get him some reps. Then look at Week one, 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: he's facing Brian Flores Vikings defense with all this complex stuff, 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Tua Plade who's banged up all the time, and Caleb 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: Williams is in street clothes. What are you doing? Bears? 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: That was a hideous call on their part. 94 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: Now, I will say that if you play your starting quarterback, 95 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: you have to play most of your starting offensive line 96 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, but like Joe Toney probably doesn't need 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: to play the preseason, so you would play everyone but 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: Joe too. It's still funny you can't play your starting 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: quarterback and the backup offensive line. Right, but are you 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: telling me that like darn Ald Wright couldn't used some 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: reps right Like? It's yeah, it's it blows my mind. 102 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: A day the day went in that direction and and 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: just decided not to play him. I I just it 104 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: concerns me about Ben Johnson. 105 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: I know it. And he's a second year guy. I 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: get it. If he's a veteran, been around a long time. 107 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: He had a shaky rookie season and I don't know, man, 108 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: I would get him a couple of drives and get him, 109 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: get his feet wet, you know, get him some game 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: like situations prepared. I just think there's far more good 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: than bad. Again, the bad is he gets hurt, Well 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: what else, They're a lot more good realistically to come 113 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: from it. Okay, let's go with another quarterback here, mistake 114 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: or makes sense. Aaron Rodgers no playing time for the Steelers. 115 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: What do you think? 116 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: I I I think it's probably fine. He's playing a 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: football in his life, and I could see, like if 118 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: he plays Game two, which I don't. I haven't seen 119 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: the announcement of starters for game two. I think it's 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: I think it's okay for him not to play in 121 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: the first game if he plays in the second game. 122 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I'm gonna go a little 123 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: bit different. I'm gonna go small mistake. This is not 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 2: a Caleb Williams Bears like mistake, but I think small mistake. Again, 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: when you have brand new teammates, get out there, get 126 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: at least a drive. I think it. I think there's 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: some some benefits for doing that. But again, a small mistake. 128 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: He's been around for so long. It's not as if 129 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: he's going to be like way behind not getting him 130 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: out there. How about this. I think probably be on 131 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: the same page on this one. Joe Flacco makes sense 132 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: or a mistake that he didn't get out there with 133 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: the with the Browns. 134 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: Oh he didn't have to play. 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it makes sense to not get out there. 136 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: You're just trying to get him healthy. You're trying to 137 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: get him the week one. 138 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: You have to just get there for then Santas will 139 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: take over like in a week five, so it didn't 140 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: matter anyways. 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: Do you think that will happen? 142 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think so. I think Sanders will 143 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: play sooner or later, and he'll he'll will pass doing Gabriel, 144 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: which I thought this was all wrong. It's nothing new, 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: But I think Sanders will get the backup job. And 146 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: Flacco did not play well last season. No, I think 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: that we look at this and he didn't play well 148 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: last year. He's not. He's forty one. He can't move, don't. 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: I don't. The Browns offensive line is getting older, and 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: wide receivers aren't great. I don't know why people think 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: he's gonna play well. 152 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 153 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: I cashed a couple of Flacco interception bets last year 154 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: that worked out pretty well. When he's with the cold, 155 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, and listen, man, that just shows you 156 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: how bad Anthony Richardson is at football. I mean really, 157 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: that's the thing, because when Flacco initially took over for Richardson, 158 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: You're like, wow, look at this, he's completing passes, they're 159 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: moving the ball, they're scoring some points, and then you 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: gave it a few more weeks and you're like, all right, 161 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: the magic has worn off. But initially it's just like, man, 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: how do we play Anthony Richardson when we've got this 163 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco guy who's more productive. It's just it's embarrassing 164 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: what's happened with Anthony Richardson and the colts man. But 165 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: that's where they are. I was also thinking this, Jeff, 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: you tell me if this makes any sense or not, 167 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: because I was thinking about how it's been thrown out 168 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: there where there's this trendy quarterback comparison, and there are 169 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people that will say, well, hey, c J. Stroud, 170 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: the Texans quarterback, he took a step back in his 171 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: second season, right, So is that gonna happen with Jaden Daniels? 172 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: Is he gonna take a step back to sophomore slump? 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: You and I are on the same page where we 174 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna happen. 175 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: Right. 176 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: Daniels special talent, different player, uses his legs quite a bit, 177 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: different teammates around. I just don't see him falling off 178 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: the sea way that CJ. Stroud fell off. How about 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: this for a different comparison. Could you see remember how 180 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: Bryce Young started out? He was really rough, and then 181 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: last year he played a lot better. Could you see 182 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: a step forward? Caleb Williams wasn't as bad his rookie year. 183 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: That's not the comparison. But could you see a big 184 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: step forward from Caleb Williams the Bears quarterback? You know, 185 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: new head coach? Yeah, supporting cast a better offensive line. 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: I could see at least at the end of the 187 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: season us saying wow, a lot better than his rookie season. Right, 188 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: Maybe that's the comparison to make. 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're gonna see just structurally that 190 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: the offense the Chicago runs will help Caleb Willmans be better. Yeah, 191 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: And so it was so dysfunctional last year. I think 192 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: now I don't know if he will be as good 193 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: as we thought he could be. I just I get 194 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: some concerns. Here's the concern. So, like, when these quarterbacks 195 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: are at practice and mistakes are fine in practice, I 196 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: think we overanalyze practice reps and interceptions and whatnot, and 197 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: mistakes are made. But with a lot of these these guys, 198 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: the reports of the good quarterbacks are just like, you know, 199 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: mom's had a good day. I don't have a good day. 200 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: Do an interception or two, but you know, a good day. 201 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: And maybe Caleb Woman's being judged on an unfair curve, 202 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: but because there's so much attention to him, but I'm 203 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: not we're not getting that from Williams. From Bear's camp. 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: It's oh boy, another even day for Kayleb Williams. Oh 205 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: didn't look great here. Guy can't hit the net when 206 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: he throws the ball into the hole. 207 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 208 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: And so like those, we're just not getting the typical 209 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: training camp fluff reports that we get when it comes 210 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: to you know, these sort of you know they they want, 211 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: you know, they want hunt. You want to be positive 212 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: in training camp, right, you want to get your fan 213 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: base excited if you cover the team. It just feels 214 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 3: like people are like, I don't know, I don't know 215 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: about Williams, like we haven't seen it sort of quite yet. 216 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: He's obviously very talented. I think Ben Johnson will get 217 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: the most he can out of him, so it'd be 218 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: better than last season. But I don't expect I really 219 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: don't to be some great Bears revival this year. 220 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: Okay, listen. I'm not saying he goes crazy and goes 221 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: nuts this year. I think that he could take a 222 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: noticeable step forward. I just think the thing with Caleb 223 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: Williams two things. The first thing is, unless you're certified, 224 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: you know, like you've put up numbers for a while, 225 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: and we know, okay, Josh Allen is a top guy. 226 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: Mahomes top guy, Like you're certified, you've been knighted. Unless 227 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: you've been knighted, when you have a rough day in 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: training camp, it's like, uh oh, where do things stand exactly? 229 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: We don't think that with the top guys. You know, 230 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: if Justin Fields goes out and stinks it up in 231 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: training camp with the Jets, it's like, uh oh uh, 232 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: here we go again. 233 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: You know. 234 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: So until he gets to that status, like we're going 235 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: to freak out about what he does in training camp. 236 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: And I think that's all tied to the expectations initially 237 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: number one overall, pick all this talent, what we thought 238 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: he would be, what he's expected to be, and he 239 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: didn't live up to expectations in year one. So I 240 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: think people are just freaking out. That might be a 241 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: common trend. 242 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: It's certainly fair to view those reports with that lens, 243 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: because I mean, look, the way you judge someone's career 244 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: right or wrong, is off their draft slot. Right, I 245 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: was seventh round pick. My career always gets judged as 246 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: a seventh round pick, where if your first round pick, 247 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: first pick overall, you always get judged off of that, 248 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: and then you get compared to your peers when you're 249 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: when you're drafted that high, I don't get compared to 250 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: any seventh round They're not like, oh, Shorts played eight years, 251 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: but this guy played nine. No one cares when your 252 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: seventh round pick, but they do care when you're Then 253 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: we'll picking the and Jaane Daniels plays so well as 254 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: rookie season, so everything that Williams does is now going 255 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: to be tied to Jadon Daniels' success, and so that's 256 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: where there's a lot of pressure on him. Even more 257 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: is because he's got a basically play well because Jane 258 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: Daniels has played well and look, to be fair, william 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: can still have a good career. But it's very rare 260 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: to have a situation where two quarterbacks in the same 261 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: draft class are like world class players. It's a rarity. Obviously, 262 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three very rare even like four, and then 263 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: and then the two like the Burrow Burrow Herbert to 264 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: I mean Borrough Herbert, Like that's one of that's a 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: rare year. But again, like those are like every twenty 266 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: years one year that it has multiple franchise type changing quarterbacks, 267 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: and so it would be a rarity for that to 268 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: be the case here as well. Yeah. 269 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think last thing I'll say is I 270 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: think Caleb Williams is the most scrutinized player in the 271 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: NFL right now. I don't know who's even that close 272 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: to Caleb Williams when we're breaking down him missing a 273 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: net in training camp, but like Coward's freaking out. Coward's 274 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: one of the smartest dudes in sports radio ever, and 275 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: he's freaking out like he took it down off the 276 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: Bear's website. It's not a good look. It's like he 277 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: doesn't matter at all. He drained multiple shots right after that. 278 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: No one cares. It's just he's the most scrutinized guy 279 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: right now. Number one. Pick all the opinions he generated 280 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: from people when he was at college just translated to 281 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: the NFL. No one is under the microscope more than 282 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is right. Now, we're not breaking down anybody 283 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: else's training training camp net throws than Caleb Williams. It's crazy. 284 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just because it was so bad, 285 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: like that's it. You don't breaking it down because most 286 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: of the time the quarterback gets the ball into the net. 287 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Now again, the one thing that I always try to 288 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: tell everyone about training camp, about these reps is you 289 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: don't know what they're working on. So they might be 290 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: working killbillys that drove might have been like catch the ball, 291 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: throw as fast as you can, like are working on 292 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: on r PO type stuff or working on getting rid 293 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: of the ball quickly, and so you know that that's 294 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: why the throws might be inaccurate. You know when when 295 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: they talk about interceptions in a day no interceptions, he 296 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: had five. Maybe that that that you know that install 297 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: for the day is deep is deep throws, and they 298 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: just want you to throw the ball deep every time 299 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: in that way, and you thought you're a couple of interceptions. 300 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: That's why I think some of this is and actually 301 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: think that when you throw no interceptions, that's almost worse. 302 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: Like I kind of judge you. I'm like, oh, you know, 303 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: no interceptions. Are you trying to throw a ball down 304 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: the field? So, uh, that's that's we have to take 305 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: into consideration those those things we talked about. These cord 306 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: you can't. But again, it wasn't a great look for 307 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: Williams to not be able to hit the net in 308 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: that sequence. 309 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: And then the reaction and then he was upset about 310 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's like, shut up, this means nothing. 311 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: We're not gonna revert back, you know, after week five 312 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: and be like, well, remember the throwing that video. This 313 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: shouldn't be a surprise that he stops. 314 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: You upset about it? You want to be accurate. 315 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: It's crazy man. All right, here's Jeff Schwartz. I'm probably 316 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: in no. 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This quarterback will 325 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: have to be a lot better than many w NBA players. 326 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: We will explain. 327 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 328 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: It's Jeff Schwartz, Brian though here on Fox Sports Radio. 329 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 330 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 331 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 332 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 333 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 6: Hi, this is Jay. I'm the producer of the Paula 334 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 6: and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos they asked 335 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 6: you to listen to the show. 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What 355 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: artist are you choosing to listen to the whole time 356 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: banned artist? What have you? And I was like, I 357 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: could go Sleigher, I could go Pantera, I could go 358 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: you know, Lamb of God. No problem. You know, I'm 359 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you would not want to be in that 360 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: car ride with me, Jeff, But what would you be 361 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: going with. I know you're an ed M guy. 362 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry you did said just eight hours. 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's a very tall woman. It's very tall, very tall. Yeah, 364 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: it's it's like skying five ft eighth. 365 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: Ye. 366 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, price it doesn't start in the w n B 367 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: A at Center. 368 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: I've forgotten that. Yeah, super tall. How can I forget that? Yeah, oh, 369 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: I would just I would just choose Tupac. Done with it. 370 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: You'd go Tupacy. 371 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: I have enough music for eight hours, it's not a problem. 372 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, go with Pac. 373 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah's wrong with that? Easy answer for me? 374 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, solid choice. 375 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Who If you said you who you go with? 376 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 7: I'd go Jimmy Buffett. I've actually probably done eight hours 377 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 7: of Jimmy Buffett with the car ride with a buddy 378 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 7: of mine. But I think, you know, I think a 379 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 7: lot of people would fall back on the Beatles, Rolling Stones, 380 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 7: led Zeppelin. 381 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: Okay, do you see? But I feel like I guess 382 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: artists probably have enough for eight hours right of in 383 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: a row like like. 384 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you'd have to you'd have to go 385 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: with some duplicates for sure, Like you know. 386 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: You don't have of God for eight hours? 387 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely easily easily. Yes, yeah, I have. 388 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: To question some of your life decisions, now, Okay. 389 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: So well he brought up the w n B a 390 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, dua lipa center in the W. But uh, 391 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: this quarterback is going to have to do a lot 392 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: better than some of the players in the W. Do listen. 393 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: This is one of our pet Peeves, Jeff. Not everybody 394 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: misses layups, obviously in the w n B A, but 395 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: just watch games, there are a lot of missed layups. 396 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: And we bring this up because of a quarterback. If 397 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: you look at JJ McCarthy, Vikings, first year starter, right 398 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: missed his entire rookie season, will be a first year 399 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: starter this year. We saw him in preseason action against 400 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 2: the Houston Texans and he had a couple of nice throws, 401 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: a couple of nice throw to Jordan Addison, but there 402 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: was one throw in particular where a receiver was wide 403 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: open across the middle, Lucky Jackson, third and four, and 404 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: he just airmailed it. That is a layup throw, Jeff. 405 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: And that's one thing you have got to be able 406 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: to get done. If you're JJ McCarthy this season, that 407 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: should be expected. Maybe you're not, you know, up to 408 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: speed as if you played your entire rookie season and 409 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: now you're starting to really put it all together. I 410 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: mean he's gonna be behind the curve a little bit, 411 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But the layup throws, he 412 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: should be absolutely expected to make those routinely. He should 413 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: not be missing those throws. 414 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: In this offense with O'Connell, he's gonna have the opportunity 415 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: to have a lot of layup throws. Yeah, and to 416 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: your point, like, those are the ones that are inexcusable. 417 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: He has to make those throws because that well, that 418 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: will do a couple of things. One, obviously it was 419 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 3: give him confidence, right, we'll give him confidence he can 420 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: make the throws. But two, like, you know, give yourself 421 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: a free seven eight yards. Now it's second and two, right, yeah, 422 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: Now it's now in second and four. Now it's first down. 423 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: Now that makes third down much more manageable if it's 424 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, second and ten, Like, just take the six yards. 425 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: It's those are just such such important throws to overall 426 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: game plan in the sense of a game. But your point, 427 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: he can't miss those now, I thought for him back 428 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: to my standard, doesn't look like it should. I thought 429 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: it did for quarterback who I pushed back on this 430 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: year second year guy. Yeah, yeah, he's in the second year. 431 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: He didn't play last year though, and not only that, Brian, 432 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: he didn't practice last year because he was hurt. So 433 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: he's the second year guy like only a name only 434 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: like he did like most second year guys practiced a 435 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: little bit. The year before he didn't he didn't practice, 436 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: he was hurt all year, so I thought that it 437 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: was a good start for him. A lot to work on, 438 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: But you're right, just just make your layups, man, If 439 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: you make your layups, everything else will be fine. And 440 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: if you can do that, the Vikings, dude, have a 441 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: chance to be really good. It's a very good football team. 442 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 3: They just have to get McCarthy up to speed as 443 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: quick as possible, and if he can do that, they 444 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: have a chance to be near the top of the league. Again. 445 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so interested to see how the Vikings play 446 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 2: and how McCarthy plays, because you're right, they've got a 447 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: stacked roster and if he's producing right away, they could 448 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: have a special year. But absolutely, he's a first year starter. 449 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: Like you said, he got a couple of you know, 450 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: he got training camp reps last year and then preseason 451 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: reps until he got hurt. 452 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: You know, that's it, that's. 453 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: It on the shelf the whole year. So that's the 454 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: gift in the curse. 455 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: You know. 456 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: I know you went Tupac, but we could go jay 457 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: Z with the gift of the curse right there, you go, right, 458 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: But it's he's got a great supporting cast. That helps. 459 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: But the curse of that is the expectations are high. 460 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: Like I laugh every time I read or hear someone say, 461 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, we got to have patience, We got to 462 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: have some grace with JJ McCarthy here, and it's like, Okay, 463 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: come talk to me in week four. If he's stunk 464 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: it up for a few games in a row and 465 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: you're just giving him grace, that's not gonna happen. 466 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: Well. The reason why the timeline is so sped up 467 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: is because of last season, right, because they played so 468 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: well last season, that's right, And so because of that, 469 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 3: now this year his timeline is way sped up where 470 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: it would have been if they just had a decent 471 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: year last year. Because of the talent on defense, on offense, 472 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: we know kose can coach, and the suys darn had 473 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 3: last season, he's expected to perform immediately this year. So 474 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure. I thought, you know, there's 475 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 3: a lot of time about his his arm strength, and 476 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: I thought that the armstrang was on good display there. 477 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: I throw the ball perfectly fine, It's to your point, though, 478 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: it needs to be accurate when those layups are available 479 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: to him, and this offense are going to be a 480 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: lot of them. And you know, back to WNBA, like 481 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: the best teams WWA, they make their life. That's that 482 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: don't are terrible. 483 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: So they just routinely blowing layups. 484 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: Man, it is, I don't know why we watch a 485 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: bunch of this league. Brian is infuriated and what we 486 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: just can't enough of it? 487 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: You know what it is? It's something about trying to 488 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: figure something out. I don't know what that. Maybe it's 489 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: a guy thing. I don't know. I'm sure women try 490 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: to figure things out too, but I don't I think it. 491 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're maniacs sometimes and when we're like, all right, 492 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: let me try to figure out what's going to happen 493 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: in this game, and then something weird happens, you don't 494 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: just chalk it up to man, hey, weird stuff happens. 495 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: It's like I needed to see that coming somehow, some way. 496 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: If you are trying to figure something out. The W 497 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: is the Rubik's Cube of the sports world where it's 498 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: just it defies logic time and time again. 499 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: It makes no sense. Yeah, it's it's not like women's 500 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: college basketball on Yeah, it's not like's college basketball. It's 501 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: not like the NBA. There's nothing. There's nothing like this ever, 502 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 3: Like it wouldn't be like like like Yukon for example. 503 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 3: It's a bad example because Yukon is good, but like 504 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: a top twenty women's college basketball, if you watch them play, 505 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: they won't they won't score twenty five points in one 506 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: quarter and seven. 507 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: The next hard right, yeah yeah, But. 508 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: In the WNBA it happens all man the time. How 509 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 3: do you I cannot explain when teams that are good. 510 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about like you know, Connecticut, which actually 511 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: scores a decent amount of points, it's about like just 512 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: like and like, they just don't score. I I can't. 513 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: It's strange because that's the thing with if you're talking 514 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: about from a sports betting perspective, it's you have to 515 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: do the opposite a lot of times. It's the zigzag thing. 516 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: But the teams lie to you so much every now 517 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: and then they they you know, they stay consistent, they 518 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: score a bunch every core all game long. That will happen. 519 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 2: But there are plenty of times where a team comes 520 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: out red hot and in that moment you're thinking, man, 521 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: they're probably gonna go for one hundred tonight. No, in 522 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: that moment, you're supposed to bet under twenty one and 523 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: a half points in the second quarter. They're not gonna 524 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: come anywhere close to going over that. But it's like 525 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: they're firing at all cylinders. You're like, I think they're good, 526 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: and it's in the second quarter begins and you're like, 527 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: they cannot put the ball in the hoop at all. 528 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: It just it defies logic. It does. The other thing 529 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: that defies logic in the league is just the players 530 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: to the same degree will just stop getting the stat 531 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: they were getting, like for the right, right, Okay, I 532 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 3: bet a lot on the NBA, So you this does 533 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: not happen in the NBA where someone has a number. 534 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: Let's just say it's it's it's eight rebounds, right, and 535 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: they get seven the first half and don't get won 536 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: the entire second halpen It happens all the time. It does. 537 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: It is insane. 538 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: It does not happen in the NBA because that been 539 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: in college basketball and I can't explain it. 540 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: I can't either. It's the weirdest thing, but it does. 541 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: It happens a lot. You're not going to see. I 542 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: don't know, just Jalen Brunson just popped into my head. 543 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: You're not going to see him go off for twenty 544 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: in the first half and then just score like four 545 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: the second eight. It won't happen. 546 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: Well, okay, think about so last night. You know, Alysta Thomas, 547 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: who plays for the Mercury, had three straight triple doubles. 548 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: She's incredible, and her rebound prop was eight and a 549 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: half yesterday. I didn't play yesterday, but I was looking 550 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: at some numbers and I was like, okay, so eight 551 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: and a half. Now, she's one of the better players 552 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: in LA. I think she's second right now in an 553 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: MVP voting. I don't even know what her NBA equivalent 554 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: would be exactly, but she had seven rebounds in the 555 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: first half. Again, her prop was eight and a half. 556 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: I actually looked at halftime it was eleven and a half. 557 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: I almost bet it. I was like, I was like, 558 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, we get to so 559 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: get another another five? She had won the entire second. 560 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Sits insane, man, It's just crazy. 561 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: Like what's the what's it was the NBA equivalent of 562 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: a list of Thomas like Russell Westbrook, Essentially. 563 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: Like no, she'd be because she's more of a She's 564 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: just more of like a fout forward. So yeah, I 565 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: don't know it would be a good comfort, but you would. 566 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: But if the NBA player at seven rounds the first 567 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: half of her caliber. 568 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: Right right, no, ended up with yeh was seventeen, well 569 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: at least over eight and a half for sure. By 570 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: the way, let me get you two NFL things. So 571 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: going back to McCarthy real fast, this is something interesting. 572 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: We mentioned it on countdown yesterday, but for the two 573 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: pros audience, I thought this was really interesting. So a 574 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: lot of people think that JJ McCarthy going up against 575 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: Brian Flora's defense every day in practice is a good thing, 576 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: you know, like iron sharpens iron, that sort of thing, 577 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: And largely I agree with that, Jeff. But something that 578 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: McCarthy said after the preseason game I thought was really interesting. 579 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: So we're he was talking about missing Lucky Jackson, the 580 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: wide receiver who was wide open across the middle, and 581 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: he said, when you go against Flow's defense, your timing 582 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: is always like one hitch and it's got to be out. 583 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: And I feel like there was a couple of occasions. 584 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: There were a couple of occasions Saturday where I could 585 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: have sat in there and trusted the pocket and made 586 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: a better decision in that time frame, the one to 587 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: Lucky across the middle. If I would have just waited 588 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: a click longer, I would have found him in that window. 589 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was really interesting. Where Yeah, sometimes going 590 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: up against a top defense and a top defensive coordinator, 591 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: you would think that only makes things easier. When you 592 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: go up against a lesser defense or a lesser DC, 593 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: that's not always the case. Sometimes you're sped up to 594 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 2: a fault, and as a guy who's learning, right, like 595 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: his first year starter, he's got to make that adjustment 596 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: when he's out on the field for real against a 597 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: different defense. That was that's pretty interesting to me. 598 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was very interesting. So now I go 599 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: to Okay, in game two, your next persons in the game, 600 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: are you things slowed down for you? Because if it's 601 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: sped up, that's fine. I mean, that's that's Baald, that happens. Okay, 602 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm admitting that, and it's great then to put that 603 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: out there that, hey, you know, not to his defense 604 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: right like my defense is makes it difficult for me 605 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: in practice. Okay, sure, that's great. It's supposed to be 606 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: hard in practice, right, Practice supposed to be hard, it's 607 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: not supposed to be easy. Now in game two, we 608 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: got to slow it down, right, like we can't. That's 609 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: not excuse anymore like game one. You get it good now. 610 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: Also to he's going to have practice moving forward that's 611 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: not as often against Brian Flores's defense. Right, They'll start 612 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: doing some scout team stuff, so he'll have a chance 613 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: to slow things down in practice just without having to 614 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: play against his defense, which will be I think obviously 615 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: very good for him. But it was interesting he said 616 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: that out loud and sort of admitted that because I 617 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: don't know if many quarterbacks would would do that. It's 618 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: a valid point. It makes sense what he's saying. Sure, 619 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: but now we gotta see that. To me, now you 620 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: want to I need to see the improvement in that 621 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: into game two. 622 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And one other preseason thing to mention, how about 623 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: this Lions Falcons game that was suspended. I don't know 624 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: the right terminology because to me, suspended. You hear this 625 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: all the time in baseball, the game suspended, we'll pick 626 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: it back up, you know what I mean? Like or 627 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: it's it's suspended, we'll make the game up. A month 628 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: from now. This game is done like over, you know, 629 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: ended early. But there was a scary injury the very 630 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: beginning of the fourth quarter. Maurice Norris. He went in 631 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: for a tackle as a defensive back, he's a safety, 632 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: and his neck snapped back, you know, he collided with 633 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: the ballcarrier's leg. He was on the field for a while, 634 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 2: twenty minutes, and they took him off in an ambulance. 635 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: They agreed to end the game. But the weird thing, Jeff, 636 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: was they didn't agree right then, like the beginning of 637 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. They snapped the ball and just let 638 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: the clock run for minutes. You know, we're talking all 639 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: the way down to like six and a half minutes, 640 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: and then New York and the NFL got involved and said, 641 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: all right, the game's over with here. It was just 642 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: strange that they took that scenic route toward calling the 643 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: game early. It was just strange how it played out. 644 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: And luckily that he's fine. He tweeted on social media 645 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: that he's all good. So that's great news. 646 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: Yes, So a couple of things here. I think that 647 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: the DeMar Hamlin situation has led to an increased awareness 648 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: to player injuries, right so in this situation, he went 649 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: to make a tackle, he actually didn't even hit the 650 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: player like crown of the helmet, Like he actually could 651 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: use good form if you were to for where he 652 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: was trying to tackle. He is headed was up like 653 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: he got hit. He got kicked in the face, essentially 654 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: kicked in the head, knocked out. I think they said 655 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: he had maybe had a seizure. I don't know. And dude, 656 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: the amount of medical personnel on that field was way 657 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: more than usual for concussion. 658 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point, this is like the post Hamlin 659 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 2: world we're in, right, Yeah, sure. 660 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 3: They had the ambulance, two carts and like fifty medical 661 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: personnel for again, like not a run of milk concussion, 662 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 3: but like a typical usc unfortunately once a week, Right, 663 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: Like a guy gets in the head. It looks terrible, 664 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: the to it right, the fencing pose like, it just 665 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 3: looks it looks terrible. I'm not I'm not diminishing the 666 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: actual injury, but it's one. The DeMar Hamlet situation I 667 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: think has everyone high a lert, as they should be. 668 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 3: It's a true job. But two also, the teams practiced 669 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: these emergency situations all the time, and I bet you. 670 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: They had just done that before preseason game one, and 671 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: it was like their moment to do the thing. They 672 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: just practiced, and they've gone the radio, they called everyone in, 673 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: and they made it happen. I was stunned to see 674 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: the game end. Now. The reasoning was, we had joint 675 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: practices already. This is a very emotional moment. We've done 676 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 3: enough work against each other. We're done for the day. 677 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: My only pushback on that besides my line's wager not catching, 678 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: but that's obviously unimportant in this situation. Yeah, is that 679 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: you know, for me, I was a seventh round pick. 680 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: That quarter was when I would have played in a 681 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: peason games. Sure, and you're taking away that opportunity from 682 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: players who might need that time on the field, not 683 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 3: for the Lions or Falcons, but for the rest of 684 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: the NFL to have that film. They've taken that quarter 685 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: of film away from those guys. And again, it's a 686 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: dunk situation. You know. Did the guys want to play 687 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: or not? I don't know, but I was surprised to 688 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 3: see that situation happen. 689 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and thankfully he's fine. That's what matters most. I 690 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: just thought, like the scenic route toward calling the game 691 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: early was strange. This doesn't seem like the National Football League, 692 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It didn't seem like it 693 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: would happen there where this guy gets hurt at the 694 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: beginning of the fourth quarter, like first play of the 695 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and they just run the clock all the 696 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: way down to six and a half. They're just standing 697 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: there for like nine minutes as the clock is sticking down, 698 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: and then they called the game early. It was just strange, like, 699 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you just call it immediately if that's the case. 700 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just odd. It didn't seem like 701 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: it was, you know, incredibly buttoned up. But he's fine. 702 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: That's all that really matters. Hey, speaking of fine, Right 703 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: around the corner, we have the FSR IR right. Little 704 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: injuries here and there, anything going on in your life, 705 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: we'll hear from Lee Robert to Lap the fourth, our 706 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: trusted producer. Also Lorena with us today as well. Jeff 707 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: and I will be here so we do that right 708 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: around the corner. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian. Nowa're in 709 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 2: for two pros and a cup of Joe right here 710 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 711 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 712 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 713 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 4: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 714 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Prian though. 715 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 2: We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe 716 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Is it time for 717 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: a new job? Then it's time for Express Employment Professionals. 718 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: Quit the endless online job search. Enlist the pros an 719 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: Express never charges job seekers a fee. Go to expresspros 720 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: dot com. How could you not drive eight hours listening 721 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: to Pantera? That's beyond it. Yeah, there you go, Lorena. 722 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: Eight hours becomes six hours real quick. That's right. Just 723 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 2: you know, speed through that that road trip right there. 724 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: All right, we got a bit to do. Let's do this. 725 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 4: After your sports week at happens. So it's time to 726 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 4: get the FSR IR report. 727 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: That is right, the IR report. You know Lee Robert 728 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 2: de lapped the fourth Uh, you know, any knicks, any bruises, 729 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: any scrapes, anything going on with you over the weekend. 730 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 7: I do have a bruise on my belly that I 731 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 7: don't know where it came. From got pointed out to me. 732 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 7: I didn't see it, and it sounds like you got 733 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 7: a bruise there, buddy, And uh, yeah, sure enough it is. 734 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 7: So I don't know where that's from. And then another 735 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 7: mishap this weekend actually happens to involve Larena. We uh 736 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 7: we met up for some wings and drinks one night 737 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 7: and with your with your cousin, and I guess I 738 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 7: packed your food to go wrong. 739 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 8: Yeah, So we took our chicken strips home and I 740 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 8: have a brand new car, right, and I have my 741 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 8: cousin hold the box. I'm like, make sure you hold the. 742 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 7: Chicken strip so they don't fall. 743 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 8: I did not know that Lee put an open container 744 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 8: of buffalo sauce inside of that chicken strips box. So 745 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 8: I So, so I get home and I noticed the 746 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 8: orange out the side. I'm like, what is that? And 747 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 8: my cousin opens it she goes, oh, my gosh. 748 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, it doesn't look like it's 749 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: spilled out. 750 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 8: And then my aunt got in the car the next 751 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 8: day and she goes, what is that orange stuff down 752 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 8: the side of your car? 753 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 754 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, the new ride, the brand new whip. 755 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: Lee. 756 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 8: When it's time for my next servicing detail, I will. 757 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: Be hitting you up. 758 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 7: I I guess I deserve that. 759 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: Maybe driving then how about you, Jeff, you got any 760 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: any ailments over the weekend? Over there? 761 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 3: I was retally healthy. I did have a medical procedure 762 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 3: last week in where I did not fit in the 763 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 3: table and as we were adjusting the table, I fell. 764 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 3: The table fell, it was it was into a chair. 765 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 3: It was from table to chair and as we were 766 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: moving from table to chair, I got ejected backwards, like 767 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: the chair went backwards. I fell backwards off the chair 768 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 3: behind And so the procedure, I'm fine, it was nothing. 769 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: And actually I hurt more, like my back hurts more 770 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 3: from falling on my back and my shoulder than the 771 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: actual thing that had done to me. So how nursing 772 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: from the weekend. Yeah, if I wasn't, if I was 773 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: a meaner person that the medical they would owe me 774 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 3: some money. But I'm not, And it wasn't their fault. 775 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: It is what it is. But yeah, that was my 776 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 3: that happened on Wednesday. 777 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: Could you see the panic in their eyes, like this 778 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: could be a lot of money we're on the hook for. 779 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were not. They were not. Yeah, there was 780 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 3: some but I'm not the type of person and I 781 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 3: don't need their money. I just get it. Get get 782 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: a chair better suited for people like me, That's all 783 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: I ask. Now. 784 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, man, I had got nothing that compares to 785 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 2: you guys. I got no buffalo sauce. No. I do 786 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: have a mental pain, which would go back to our 787 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: show yesterday, Jeff. At the end of the show Countdown 788 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: on FSR, I gave out Marlin's braves over eight and 789 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: a half runs, and the starting pitchers not great, and 790 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 2: the first female to umpire an MLB game behind the plate. 791 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 2: I thought she was gonna have a tight strike zone. 792 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: The opposite occurred, did not work out, and it didn't 793 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: work out. So mental pain for me is basically what happened, 794 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: all right? Coming up next, a popular opinion looks terrible.