1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the casion didn't notice I'm 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: not broke. You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I'm your host, 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald. It's time to stop reading other people's 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: success stories and start writing your own. Now. You can 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: be motivated by their success because their stories can offer 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: your direction and help you reach your goals. But you 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: have to have your own plans and you have to 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: have your own committed effort. My interviews that I do 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: on money Making Conversations for the consumer and business owner 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: offer access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, and what I like 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: to call industry decision makers. My next guest is a 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: combination celebrity and the industry decision maker. He's a Jason George. 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: He's starting in the midseason return of Station nineteen that 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: airs on Thursday, Martching leven a PM Eastern Standard Town 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: on ABC. George is also known for his work as 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: a regular mistresses Eve Off Center and Eli Stone, as 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: well as films which is of East Eastern Excuse Me, 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: The Climb, and Barbershop. After several years on Grades and 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: Natomy as Dr Ben Warren, George turned in this gross 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: for firefighter Gear when his character helped start to spin 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: off hit action drama series Station nineteen about heroic firefighters. Now, 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: George moved seamlessly between both series. When we're talking about 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: his career from comedy the soap operas to draw Mu 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: to actions venture and acting in production during COVID nteen, 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Please Love, Welcome to a man I've seen many many years, 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: always from Afar. Always wanted to cast him on my shows, 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: but he was always working. Jason George. Oh good, good good. 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: When I say that, man, you know, because we all 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I know. I started writing back at eighty two on 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: my first sitcom on ABC with Steve Harvey, and and 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: then I went to uh the Robert Townsend, and then 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: I did all city was ABC SC grades, the great absolutely, 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: and but all the time I saw you working. He 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: was always busy. And I like to believe that you 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: you you've had a working man's career, which is a 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: blessing because of the fact it's a testament to your talent. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: But this is not what you wanted to do. I 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to do. Law was supposed to be your 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: your destiny. Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. Um 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: I had gotten with the vice prince of my high 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: school was h you know. I was like, I was 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: a good student, but I was also a cut up. 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: So I'd be like getting good grades, but in detention 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: all the time. The vice Prince would be like, why 52 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: you want to be you know, he was one of 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: the few black men I saw in education at the time. 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: My mother was a teacher where I grew up. And uh, 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: and Mr has settled put me aside and be like, 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: why are you making want to give you detention? Why 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: are you trying to get detention all the time? And 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: then he would like actually sit there and talk to 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: me like I was an intelligent human being and then say, 60 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: you got attention, but you got potential as well, and 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: uh and his son, well, he passed away my senior year. 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: Mr Hesel my vice principle. And his son was only 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: the second black Supreme Court Justice of Virginia. Uh he was, 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and he was the youngest Supreme Court Justice of Virginia 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: had ever had. And his son and I got to 66 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: be good friends, and he became my mentor. And basically 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the plan was, you go to college, you get the grades, 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I'll write the recommendation, get you into the best law 69 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: school we can get you into. You come back to 70 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: clerk for me, and then you're a made man as 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: a lawyer in the state of Virginia, and you're done. 72 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Career ahead of you. And then I went to college 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: and took an acting class, and it all went to help. 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I had I called an audible changed of the plan. 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: And I never told my father that I was gonna 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: go to uh graduate school to study acting because my 77 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: father was checked out for a bit. My mom and 78 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: I had a really beautiful conversation about it, and then 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: I had to talk to the judge. Uh. He was, 80 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, one of the big male role models in 81 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: my life. And I had to tell the judge and 82 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: it was a stone cold silence on the phone for 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: a minute. He was he was not feeling it um 84 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: but fortunately it worked out. In years later signed some 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: autograph us for some people in this office and we 86 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: were cool. But you know, it's really interesting because when 87 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: I when I talked about individuals like you who sometimes 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: people see a different direction and sometimes people get trapped 89 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: in that direction that people want you to go. And 90 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: I know that I was at IBM, did Doree in mathematics, 91 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: and so everybody was happy. They thought that was the 92 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: career path. And I decided one day I want to 93 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: be I want to pursue my career as a stand 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: up comedian. So a lot of people looked at me strange, 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: how are you gonna walk away from IBM? You got 96 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: a math degree that has nothing to do with telling Joe, 97 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: how will you made that? So I can understand when 98 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: you said, there was silence on the phone because that 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the vision that person had for you. And and 100 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: you encountered that a lot because you do a lot 101 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: of community to work, You work with young people, you 102 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: work with, you try to shape people's lives. Does your 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: life come into play when you're giving people advice all 104 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: the time, all the time I try and tell him, 105 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I said, look, um, you got you like you. We 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: were talking just before the show started. You were saying, 107 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: your all good actors are good listening folks. How do 108 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: your job as an actor or just as a person 109 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: in life? Part of me the way to finding success 110 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: is you gotta listen for guy's whispering in your ear. 111 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Uh that all the time that whispers it. But you 112 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: gotta be Uh. You've gotta be quiet enough of times 113 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: that you can hear it, and then you're gonna be 114 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: loud enough of times to make yourself heard. Um. And 115 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: so it's that thing when you realize that this really, 116 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: this thing that everybody else wants for you is not 117 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: what is married. Um, you gotta be then you gotta 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: make yourself loud, but you've gotta be quiet, just be 119 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: able to hear that every once in a while. And 120 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, there's a difference between surviving 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and thriving. You know, you don't want to just get by, 122 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: you want to live. And you realize, you know, I 123 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: remember it was years I went to my my cousin's 124 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: wedding back in Louisiana, and Uh, one of his friends 125 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: like my uh my cousin. He is kind of like 126 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: his little brother. Uh, it's kind of like his adopted 127 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: little brother. And this dude was, you know, grown man now, 128 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: and he said, what's it like? And I assumed he 129 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: meant like acting and he said and I said, I said, 130 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: what being an actor? He goes now like really enjoying 131 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: what you do? And because he was, he was an accountant, 132 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: and I was, I was knocked out by it. I 133 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: was like, how can you not enjoy like my accountant. 134 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: The reason why my account is my accountant is because 135 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: this dude's geeked out by being able to do his 136 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: calculator one handed, like he loves seeing the numbers backshot, 137 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: like he enjoys that. You don't have to enjoy every 138 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: aspect of your job. Virtually nobody does, even actors don't. 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: But you're got to enjoy. You gotta find something in 140 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: it that that gets you excited, that gets it makes 141 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: you excited about going to work every once in a while, 142 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: if not every day. And then the way he said it, 143 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: I felt like, if there's nothing there, that's that's a problem. Dude. 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: You need to reevaluate your life really because I know that, 145 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: like when I tell people are a degree in mathematics. 146 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, I also tell people I don't do my 147 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: taxes because you know that is not what I do. 148 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying just because I don't numbers, 149 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: don't may not know taxes, and I can agree with you. 150 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: What you're saying is that you know, when I look 151 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: at a life, you know, longevity is really interesting. When 152 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: you start looking at decisions that you make and you know, 153 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: and I don't question in the decision I've made your 154 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I just live it because of the fact that it 155 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: was the next step of opportunity. And if you live 156 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: on regret, then you really you have an interesting life 157 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: that you should sit down and think about it. Like 158 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: your friend, like that person you talked about who's in 159 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: the account, he's living a life of regret, which is 160 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: also going to spill over into other things. Your relationship, 161 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: how you raise your kids and you have to be happy. 162 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: What drives you to keep that sustained? That you know, 163 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: you're in shape, you know you you you you you 164 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: you're are working actor? How what? What? What? What sustained you? George? 165 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: You know what's funny is for me, it's there's internal 166 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: motivations and there's external motivations. Like external motivations are like 167 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: people telling you to do something, deadlines you gotta do 168 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: and you need some of that. I mean, some of 169 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: that's what keeps you, you know going, you know, uh, 170 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, like there's so many bulks and they dispatched 171 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: on the bellies. You're getting a little big down there. 172 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: External motivation. I mean, you know we're looking for that, 173 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: but um, the truth is, I enjoyed how I feel 174 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: want the exercise. I grew up an athlete, I was 175 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: captain my track team. I grew up with you know, friends, 176 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, and so, you know, playing football 177 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: in the backyard on the regular, and so that's I 178 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: just like how I feel when I do that. That's 179 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: that internal motivation is like knowing that I can still 180 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not twenty five anymore, but I like 181 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: knowing that I can still out run some twenty five 182 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: year olds. I like keeping that side. I think that's 183 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: a good look. I like that look, um. And the 184 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: same thing as like, you know, when I discovered acting, 185 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: it was I discovered things in myself that we're interesting 186 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: to me. And when I play new characters, I discovered 187 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: new things about myself, and so there's an internal motivation 188 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: of what can I find out about me? Let's see 189 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: if I can pull this song. Let me see if 190 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: I can pull that off. And that's the challenge, you know, 191 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: the challenges are that internal motivation. And so for me, 192 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: it's about finding some of those like I know, like 193 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: you know, you want me to get something, you know, 194 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: a script written or a paper written or something like that. 195 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: I need a deadline, I mean. But when it comes 196 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: to working out or acting challenges, that's the and I 197 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: guess that's part of the thing as well, when you 198 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: find out, you know, when you're trying to figure out 199 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: what is that thing that you're in love with? If 200 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: you don't need anybody else to push you, because you 201 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: push yourself, you're internally motivated, that's probably the thing you're 202 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: meant to be doing, you know what I mean. If 203 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: you just love looking at the challenge and we're running, 204 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: and then that's the thing that for me, like you know, 205 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: I knew a dude when I when I ran track. 206 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Who you know, you're supposed to draft the people in 207 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: front of you when you run a long distance, you know, 208 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: stay with the packs, save some energy, so you has 209 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: any energy to end to break out. Uh. He he 210 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: only had one speed full out, full out. You say, 211 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: if I'm not hitting my personal best, what's the point? 212 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: And I understand the wisdom of both sides, but I 213 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: always kind of feel the heat of what he's talking about. 214 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: I gotta be pushing me at the end of the day, 215 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm balancing too. It's like I may 216 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: run with the pack for a little bit, but then 217 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: when I break out, it's about getting my personal best. 218 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: So you always gotta be measuring yourself and it's gotta 219 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: be internally motivated. And that's what I said in the 220 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: beginning when I set up the show. It's about you know, 221 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: we read other people story, but what passion and what 222 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: drive keeps you going? What's your planning, what's your committed effort? 223 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: And that's what you talk about committed effort. Now, when 224 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: I look at you, let's go over real, Jason. You're 225 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a handsome guy. On your show, we're gonna get to 226 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: a good story. It's gonna be a good It's not 227 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a You can take it and keep it 228 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: because you've been living with it all your life and 229 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Now on now on you know, stationten, 230 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: you got my boards culture who I know really well, 231 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I've been doing borders through all these sitcom good looking guy, 232 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: and I think he's doing some of his best acting 233 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: on this on this on Station Nat. I mean his 234 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: his nuances, his uh, you know, frustration, uh, being a 235 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: guy who has a drug issue and really showing a 236 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: wrong character. And the reason I say that because a 237 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: lot of casting goes in into how you look, and 238 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: then people will sometimes not give you credit because of 239 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: how you look or use cast for this particular reason. 240 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: And I'm so proud when I see what Boris is 241 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: joined on the Station eighteen this season because of the 242 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: fact that you know, many years I know I would 243 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: cast him because he was a good looking guy on sitcoms. 244 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, we need a good looking guy in the seen. Okay, 245 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: let's Boris and he could act as well, and he 246 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: can deal with comedy Glass what point in your brain 247 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and your career because I remember your he was a 248 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: good looking guy. Us just stuck, you know, don't eve 249 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, and so but that was a good thing 250 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: because you were getting the check and you was accomplishing 251 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: your task. But in the process, you just want a job. So, 252 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: with all that being said, what's the ultimate goal, getting 253 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: the job or being respected for your acting? No, you 254 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: want to be respected for your acting because look, I 255 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: always look at like you know, it's you know, it's like, uh, 256 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: like I tell my kids, you know, like my kids 257 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: are perfectly speaking, good looking kids. There's some beautiful children 258 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: and tell them that's your mom and me. That ain't 259 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: got But if you're in shape, that's that you can say. 260 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: That's on you. What you do in school, what you do, 261 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: what you accomplish, what you create. You did that, right, 262 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean, so you know it's like, so for me, 263 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: getting being respected as an actor is that thing. And 264 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: so when I get things that challenge me that have 265 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: nothing to do with a look or likability and the 266 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: fun things that also wear the spot in in film 267 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: and television where especially in television where likability is not 268 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: a point, we want interesting, We want interesting. Like then 269 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: threw boards the whole you know, drug addiction situation, and 270 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: that's when he got a chance to show up what 271 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: he's capable of, because you know, you gotta be you 272 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: gotta get ugly for a second. You gotta go to 273 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: an ugly place, and you gotta do ugly things, and 274 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: I love when I get opportunity to that. I mean, 275 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: I played uh, you know, you know war veterans who 276 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: lose limbs, and that's sort of thing I flat played, 277 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, everybody forgets that, you know, in barbershop, 278 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: I was you know, even I played boyfriend and girlfriend 279 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: in barbershop before we were on the sitcom Eve. You 280 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: know Eve, I was a pretty good guy in barbershop. 281 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: I was a dog. You dog was a dog and 282 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: it was you know, yeah, and playing and playing the 283 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: playing people who break the rules is a lot more 284 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: fun because I don't do that, uh in real life. 285 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't break rules that I believe in in real life. Um, 286 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: if I don't believe in your rules, ever, just keep 287 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: it moving. And you know that's and everybody who knows me, 288 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, uh, you know, it's better. My 289 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: favorite phrase my wife gets frustrated with it is it's 290 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: better to ask forgiven this infermission. Um. So I'm gonna 291 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: do what I need to do, and then I'll find 292 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: out if there's a rule saying I shouldn't do it 293 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: later on. Um. But you know, so if you do 294 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: that in the character that's that's much more interesting. So 295 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm much more interested in the challenges of acting than 296 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: I am and how I look and that sort of thing. 297 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, you know, I love working out, 298 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: I love work, I enjoy exercising, but when it feels 299 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: like it's an expectation, I want to go eat a 300 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: pizza just to like, you know, tell people to step back. 301 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a little contraryan in that way. 302 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: That's a good but I'm not stupid enjoying them comment 303 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: spite my face. You know, Greg is that great anatomy? 304 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, you're regular Dr Ben Warren. Then you get 305 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: the call we wanted to, uh you know, spin off 306 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: in a new seal. You know they're done guarantees on 307 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: a new series, you know, and uh, how does that? 308 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: You know when they tell you they want you to 309 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: do this? You know, Sean Rymes is asking you to 310 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: do this, I'm assuming to make this move. So what 311 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: were the thoughts running into your mind when this process 312 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: was being important? Because you have the ability to go 313 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: between both a doctor and a firefire in this series. 314 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Talk about that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look when it 315 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: first came up for you know, when you first get 316 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the call that you know, Shanna Rhimes wants wants to 317 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: talk to you at five o'tock today. You think you think, 318 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: am I getting fired? Am I getting fired? Is this 319 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: that call? This is that call? And then uh and 320 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: then we we got on the phone and Sean and 321 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: I have been working together for a few years at 322 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: that point, and in her producing part that Betsy Beers 323 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: is also a good friend, and and they were like, listen, 324 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about doing the spin off series 325 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and we want Ben to go from being a doctor 326 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: to being a firefighter and the Stasan McKee, who created 327 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Station nineteen had written one of the last episodes of 328 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: Raising Anatomy the previous season, and in that episode, there 329 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: was a massive fire at the hospital and been at 330 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: the time, you find out was definitely afraid of five 331 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: that you know, dude had a phone BA five. It's 332 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: not not his thing. It was not feeling the fire. 333 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: But he runs back in grabsified if I still runs 334 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: back in to try and save a friend. And then 335 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: when he doesn't die that a drinaling drunkie thing that 336 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: they had already established, and Ben that he he gets 337 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: he that he loves the adrenalism, uh kicks in and 338 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: he goes after the challenge, and that's part of what 339 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: leads to him becoming a firefighter. And I didn't realize 340 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: they were going that road route, but it turns out 341 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: they kind of set it up a little bit, you know, 342 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, for me to move in that direction. So 343 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting fired. I wasn't, in fact getting a 344 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: new job and got to be on the ground floor 345 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: of building a new, new, new part of the Grayson 346 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Anatomy world, a new part of Shawna Land, which that's 347 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: that's the dreams you want to be part of. You know. 348 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Grazing Anatomy is Grazon Natomy long before I came on, 349 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: and it was going to be Grazon Natomy long after 350 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: I left. But I got to be part of helping 351 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: create what Station nineteen was from the ground and so 352 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: that challenge I was excited about. That's it, you know, believe. 353 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I was like, but listen, you know, I'm still a doctor. 354 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: So the show, I can come back to be a doctor, 355 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: right right, you can come back and need me. But 356 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, but then is gonna be good. 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That's O T T 391 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: E R dot ai. You know that. But the interesting 392 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: thing about this is what we talked about acting, And 393 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, because there's a credibility in each role. You know, 394 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: there's the physicality of being a firefighter in station the team, 395 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: but there's the intellect and the caring and the passion 396 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: and the bedside manner that comes with being a doctor. 397 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: And Gray's anatomy, the dynamics and preparing for each role. 398 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Tell us about first grades anatomy and they're transitioning over 399 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: to the physicality of station nat Was it an easy 400 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: transition with the more difficulties on grades anatomy as a doctor, 401 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if easy is the word I would use. 402 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know Gray's anatomy is you know, 403 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: you've got language that you're using, all the crazy amounts 404 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: of Latin words and all that sort of stuff, which 405 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: I took that in a little bit in high school 406 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: because when I thought I was gonna be a lawyer, 407 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: I was like, so, you know, coming to them, you know, 408 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: you say word, you know, like you know, I don't 409 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: remember what any of the words mean, but I can 410 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: say him right, I can say him, and I know 411 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: I know how the sounds should come out, so I 412 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: can sound like a doctor real easy. That that part 413 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: came easily to me. And plus the doctors are wearing 414 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: basically pajamas all day. You're in your scrubs, your chilling 415 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: U day. My my my play cause is a I 416 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: lived with when I first came out here. He's an 417 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: antety into l A. He's an anesthesiologist. I think I 418 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: saw him outside of scrubs twice in three years. Um, 419 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: you know. And so we do a lot of I acting. 420 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: When you're in surgery, you're standing in one spot. It's 421 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: a lot of it is your your face is covered 422 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: and you're looking intensely with your eyes during the surgery 423 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. So it's about getting focus. 424 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: It's about turning into a laser beam, right. All the 425 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: energy that you have is an actor and that's all 426 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: interesting and fun. And but then when you go to 427 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: a Station nine team, just the the outfit you're wearing, 428 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: the turnouts, the fireproof gear that the firefighters wearing that 429 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: plays forty five pounds plus another fifteen twenty pounds of 430 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: the oxygen tank that we rock on our back. So 431 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: you got sixty pounds of gear that you're wearing, and 432 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: you've got to get dressed in this gear head to toe, 433 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: zipped up so it's fireproof inside of a minute. And 434 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: the truth is, real firefighters to tell you, if you 435 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: take longer than thirty seconds, they're gonna talk bad about you. Um. 436 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: So while you technically have a minute, if you if 437 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: you if you're forty seconds, forty five seconds. They're like, moon, dude, 438 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: you don't get to go to the fire with me. 439 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: You got to go to the b ships a ship 440 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: a ship. Get it done in thirty seconds. So getting 441 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: dressed is hard. You know, you understand that there's a 442 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: whole other level of physicality, um, and that I was 443 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: ready for that. I was ready bust out physically, and 444 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: so running upstairs, and you know I told him first out, 445 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: I was saying, look, I have no fear of heights. 446 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: I love jumping off the stuff and dangling from sid 447 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: I said, so you pretty much put me through it. 448 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Do it. And so they would get mad at me 449 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: for the first couple of seasons because they'd have a 450 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: forty ft ladder going up to the fourth story of 451 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: the building and don't tell me to climb that. If 452 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: you only want me to climb like six steps in, 453 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: y'all cut because I'll get up, you know, I'll ge 454 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: up to the second third point. They're like they're yelling, 455 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: They're like, insurance won't let you do that. And I 456 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: was like, yo, y'all gave me a ladder, so I'm running. 457 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: That's how I was writing on me and that's how 458 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: I get down. So uh, it's definitely different thing, and 459 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: then trying to find a way to bring that intensity 460 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: into the acting and into the performances while still bringing 461 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: in the fact that these these firefighters care so much 462 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: about the people. That's the fun thing is that when 463 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: you're sending still and talking to people over their bed 464 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: in the hospital, it's easy to let that care and 465 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: come through that emotion, that empathy come through. But when 466 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to drag somebody out of the fire, you're 467 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: trying to drag somebody out of the situation and carry 468 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: them over your shoulder, And that's where the things you're 469 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: finding a way to let the empathy be seen. Because 470 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: the reality is if you've ever met a firefighters, you 471 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: met any of these first respondents, they have the biggest hearts. 472 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they have gallows humor like doctors do, in 473 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: the same kind. They'll make jokes just like soldiers do. 474 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: And you know, like they'll make jokes that are inappropriate 475 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: in so many ways because they see the worst things 476 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: in the world. But you want to see a firefighter 477 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: in tears in their eyes. Let them see when the 478 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: kid gets hurt, um catching when the kid gets hurt. 479 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: And then you realize how big their hearts are, and 480 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: so that for me was or how much they care 481 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: about each other, like, uh, the U we had this one. 482 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: One of our five tech consultants showed me this documentary 483 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: they made back when he was in Detroit and he 484 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: called him his fired that he would point to this 485 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: one gentleman. This is a this is a young white guy, 486 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: but his fired dad was his old brother. And this 487 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: old black gentleman. Uh back there and as soon as 488 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: he started talking about him, his eyes get hearing because 489 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: he loves that man so much, he said. He talked 490 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: me about being a firefighter, talked me about being a man, 491 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: taught me about how to you know, how to survive 492 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: emotionally when you lose people, and that lets the that's 493 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: the thing that emotionally has been the most fun as 494 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: an actor. The physicality is all great and fun, but 495 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: you need to find a way to get that level 496 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: and depth of emotion that these men and women have 497 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: to come out in the middle of all that action. 498 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: And that's been a challenge and that's been the most 499 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: fun parties. I think the writer set us up and 500 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the entire test that's a beautiful job. Well, 501 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: the thing about the show I called Station. I'm talking 502 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: to interviewing Jason George when of the stars of Station 503 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: eighteen Thursday and watching Love at the Returns a p m. 504 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Eastern standard I'm on ABC. I tell the series is 505 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: a telling like it is series. You know, you have 506 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: strong black, dynamic character storylines, great a gay and lesbian, 507 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: transgender storylines, and it plays itself out in a real 508 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: world environment. You have under you know, commitment non commitment. 509 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: That's a lot of dynamics. You have a family in 510 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: fact in the season, then you have to deal with 511 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: the death in your family, revealing that information out to 512 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: your children. Talk about that. Those those different when you 513 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: have the table read or you're going through all these 514 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: characters and your character plays a major role and and 515 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: and and seamlessly has to associate itself with all these 516 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: different lifestyles, these different emotions. But but keeping it real though, 517 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: that's what I really enjoy about the series Station. The team. Yeah, 518 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's a beautiful situation because 519 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: it's what's happening more and more on television and film 520 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: in general. But Shana Lyn was kind of right at 521 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: the crest that wave, that We're gonna tell a diverse 522 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: group of stories and make everybody realize that your story 523 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: is not that different from my story, I mean, uh. 524 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: And so the diversity that we have on screen is 525 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: largely supported by the fact that they have diversity in 526 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: the writer's room and diversity, you know. I mean, I've 527 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: never worked with more female directors, more directors of color, 528 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: black directors, um then I have since I've been in 529 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Shanda Land. And so when you have that behind the scenes, 530 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: that lets real, authentic stories get told on screen. And 531 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: so when we get into that, it makes it you know, 532 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: it makes it really interesting and and and uh fun 533 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: as an actor to play its presents these challenges, and 534 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: so we're able to tell all these different aspects that 535 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: haven't always gotten much play on you know, on television. 536 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is, you know, there's a term 537 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: in uh uh in black Hollywood. Uh. You know, I 538 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: started my career as the BBS oftentimes the black best friend. 539 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: You know, my job is to show up and uh 540 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: and asked the white male league. You know, hey, man, 541 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: how is your day so we can talk about his 542 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: love problems and things going on in his life. Well, 543 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: that's tough. And then that's that's my job. They know, 544 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: not collect my check and go home. But now everybody, 545 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: everybody has a real full life, and the fact that 546 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, Shanna rhymes is why they create these ensemble 547 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: shows to make sure that everybody and and it also 548 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: works great for an actor because you know, I've got 549 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: an episode that we're about to shoot starting this week 550 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: where I'm in almost every scene and I'm I'm working 551 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: every day, and then We'll have an episode two episodes 552 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: from now where I'll show up for two days because 553 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: they rotate. It means I get, as an actor, get 554 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: to have a life outside of the show. Um, I 555 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: get to be with my family, my kids, and then 556 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, by the way, kids, you're not gonna see 557 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: me this week. Dad's gonna go to work at six 558 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, come home at eight or nine 559 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: o'clock and you're not gonna see me much because I'm 560 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: in deep this one. But then a couple of weeks 561 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: after that, you know, they get to see me and 562 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: I get to be around so they that diversity creates 563 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: a big atmosphere, big ensemble, and they get to tell 564 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: a lot of different kinds of stories, which is I 565 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: think American needs right now is they need to hear 566 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: some of the stories that haven't been told, all those 567 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: underres and communities that have been dying to see themselves 568 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: and hear their own stories told. Uh. Now we're starting 569 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: to get told more and more on television, especially on 570 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: shows like Station nineteen, well the Station A Team when 571 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: it comes back. Like I said earlier, you know that 572 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: in the season finale, you know it's a dramatic one. 573 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, I guess it was a sexual trafficking 574 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: situation that was broken up in the end. Uh, the 575 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: police showed up. I didn't really want to show up, 576 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: and you know, my man Miller, he got arrested, and 577 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: then uh, Celiban he hit I think he hit a cop. 578 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: He got arrested, and then we're at that world that 579 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: we're in today, that kind of like the George Floyd 580 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: world that we're in where cops don't have an understanding 581 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: of people of color, of people. Was that was that 582 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: important to see that play out on your show? Because 583 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: like I always tell everybody Station eighteen, you want to 584 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: see a real slice of life as it plays out 585 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: and character relationships and though it was we all can 586 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: get along if we understand each other values. That's that 587 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: that finale was powerful to be. How is that leading 588 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: to the premier episode March your level, We're gonna pick 589 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: up with that storyline. I mean, that storyline is gonna 590 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: travel through for a little bit of the difficulties with it. 591 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean we did this. We did a story in 592 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: last season where we were all the firefighters were meeting 593 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: with a therapist psychiatrist, and we're talking about our problems 594 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: and you find out that recently been had a scenario 595 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: where a police officer pulled him out of the car 596 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: and made him lay face down to the ground, uh 597 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: until he got his wild out, and that sort of 598 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: thing to be based on nothing, based on nothing that's 599 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: been done, Uh, scenario that you know most black people, 600 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: certain you know, the eyes of black men have lived 601 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: a couple of different times, um, you know, driving all black. 602 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: And it was powerful episode because the whole idea of 603 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: the reason why that was powerful for me to do 604 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: and why I really want to make sure that it happened, 605 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: was that people want to say, well George Floyd was 606 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: doing was he right in bad check? Was he well 607 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: he was in the middle for me the crime, Well, 608 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: if he hadn't been someplace doing something with the wrong people, 609 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, here's what you're not here. 610 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who you were with what you were doing. 611 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: Driving all black can happen to anybody, including a firefighters, surgeon, 612 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: uh and a caesiologist, you know, one of the good ones, 613 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: because they don't know who you are until they until 614 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: they get to know you, and right now you're just 615 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: a black man in the car. So that that kind 616 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: of that level of judgment was important to show that 617 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: who you are and what you are about and all 618 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: your accomplishments. They can't see that up from um and 619 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: so they can't see the firefighter outfit. But then but 620 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: then credit to uh, say another one who plays Dean Miller. 621 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Everybody calls him who plays Dean Miller. He really helped 622 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: push and say, we can that story. I can't just 623 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: be a one off. And so that's one of the 624 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: reasons why God bless Christop vern Off, our showrunner. She's 625 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: really about making great entertainment but also trying to make 626 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: people think, you know, to educate a little bit, maybe 627 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with these issues. So they 628 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: brought it back and that's where you have these firefighters 629 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: who are out of uniform getting treated some kind of 630 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: way by police officers, you know, and and it's anything 631 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: they do a beautiful job and making a balance because 632 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: there's the one top who is not having any of it, 633 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, and puts the you know, slams 634 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: dem on the hood of the car. And then there's 635 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: another cop who you know has a problem with it, 636 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: but he's not the supery officer, so he just kind 637 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: of goes along, you know. When they slammed the young 638 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: girl's mother on the hood of the car, that's what 639 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: That's what just got it all triggered. Treating a woman 640 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: like that, you know, that's what. Treating a woman like that, 641 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: and treating her like that because you don't necessarily believe 642 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the situation that you don't give the credibility to them 643 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: when she says, my child is stuck in there, you know. 644 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: And uh. And the show has done a lot of 645 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: different things. I mean, like, you know, there's an episode 646 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: where Seanzo Wilson, who plays Bailey, my character's wife on 647 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: the show, us beloved character, phenomenal actress, they didn't have 648 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: a few episodes where she had a heart attack and 649 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: the doctors and are trying to tell her you're you're 650 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: not You're not having a heart attack, and she's like, 651 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: I am a chief of surgery, had graceful memorial. I 652 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: know what's gonna because black women present heart attacks, heart 653 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: problems different than white men. Uh, different than white folks. 654 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: And she and it's like, your assumptions of me are 655 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: different because they just did an episode on Grades where 656 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: they did the same thing with an Asian American because 657 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: they're their health problems that present differently in the Asian 658 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: American community, you know, and it's just hit they hit 659 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: those issues that there's you know, a million different you know, 660 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: sexual aids for men, but that many for women that 661 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, who's in charge makes the rules. So they're 662 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: just trying to point up all those different things. So, 663 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: but they thought to bring that storyline back about the 664 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: social justice in this show and use sex trafficking because 665 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, and I've been pushing for that storyline on 666 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the show for a while. And it's and they want 667 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: to write everything they want, but everything in the show, 668 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: so it can't necessarily fit in right away. But you know, 669 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: I remember I was having a meeting with Karen Bass 670 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Congresswoman Karen Bass and she said, listen, you all need 671 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: to put this on the show. This is a few 672 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: years ago, and she said, you know that the number 673 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: one traffic human being in America is a four to 674 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: your old black girl. And I don't know if the 675 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: statute changed since we first talked. I pray that they have, 676 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: but believe that young black girls are still the among 677 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: the if not the most traffic human beings the planet. 678 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: And so the writers wrote that into the show. And 679 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: for me, that's that's why I'm so proud of the show, 680 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: is that they're gonna have those conversations and make folks 681 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: at home get their entertainment. You're gonna get your entertainment, 682 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your sexy, you're gonna have your feels 683 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: and cut your girls. But you're also gonna have a 684 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: conversation about does that really happen? And yes, yes it's happening, 685 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: And it's happening in neighborhoods you would not expect, in 686 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: places you would not assume. Uh. And typically, you know, 687 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: America doesn't care as much when they're you know, darker 688 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: skinned young girls, when they're blind. Here in Blue Eye, 689 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: they stay on the news um. But when they're you know, 690 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: young black women, typically not as much. And then that's 691 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: reflected in the fact that the cop doesn't believe them 692 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: when they tell them that there's young girls being trapped. 693 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: And so it's all these assumption and biases that people have. 694 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: And it's not about saying anybody's a horrible, evil human 695 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: being out the box inherently, but it's about saying, you 696 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: have bites and you gotta recognize that, because if you 697 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: can't recognize your bias, then you're you're not helping me. 698 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: You in fact, can be part of my problem. He 699 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: plays the character Dr. Ben Warren. Now he's playing firefighter 700 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: Ben Warren on Station nineteen Thursday Marching leven to coming 701 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: back on ABC. Uh, Jason George, I always call you Ben, 702 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: Jason George, family, I got, I got. I'm one of 703 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: three boys, Johnny, Jason Jarvis and so I anything. You 704 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking to you, and I'm like, yeah, 705 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: say man, I got you. Hey, Man, I appreciate you 706 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Tell your story because you know, 707 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: I earned a lot of HBC you school affiliates, and Uh, 708 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: it's just just a growing market of being able to 709 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: lit black people see real black people tell their stories 710 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: and their rise and being consistently part of the process. 711 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: And you're part of the process because I want to 712 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: bring you back on because you're a lot of stuff 713 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: you do with unions and then immunity, but more important 714 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: than they got you on to talk about the premier 715 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure I did that correctly. 716 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: About Station eighteen this Thursday, Marching, Lever, make sure you 717 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: guys don't miss it, because you won't miss this guy. 718 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: He's on TV all the time. 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