WEBVTT - Adult Education: How Did I Get Here? 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.800 Hello my little wife, hi vebe. This is a debut 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.480 of podcasting away from each other. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:14.080 I know. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.720 I've got I've got a little blank space next to 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:18.600 me on the sofa here. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:20.040 Do you miss me? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:20.320 There? 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.960 I have a question for you, because I haven't been 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.800 home because you're holding down the fort there in uh Tennessee, 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.440 I'm in Kentucky film in my movie. How has it 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.880 been with me not there? Be honest? 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.159 How has it been with you? 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.480 Like? I feel like in a way you almost enjoy 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.360 it when I'm not there, Not in a bad way, 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.360 no where, in a way where you can just go 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.360 in your office and close the door and for hours 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.200 on end, and you know, work all night long because 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.360 you're such a you love to just be in your 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.440 office and work, work, work, and when I'm gone, that's 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.600 you know, not that you can't do that when you're home. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.960 But also I'm like, hey, family time and cuddles, TV shows. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.160 Okay, First, the first thing is you're my wife, and 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.080 you're you're away from the family home. So there's a 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.600 part of that where it doesn't feel right that you're 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:27.120 not here. The second part is that you are away 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.040 doing something that you love doing. So therefore there's there's 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.880 a part of me is proud of you doing that, 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.119 and I know the kids are proud of you away 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.399 working for the family and doing things that you love 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.040 and making movies. So it's good to see you happy 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.480 and fulfilled when you go and do these movies. But 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.800 and the third part is my mind goes to a 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.200 different almost goes to a different place when you're not here, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.640 because I know that when Roman goes to bed, So 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.720 we've obviously got someone looking after Roman for certain parts 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.600 that and he's been looked after. I'm like, Okay, work 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.760 as much as I can squeeze as much in and 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.560 then there's almost like a calmness because I know and 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.880 he goes to bed, that's like, okay, straight back to walk. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.640 Well, because the person that's helping she was she was 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.560 Roman's fascinating part time. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:19.560 I would say she was. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.640 She was like twenty to twenty five hours when he 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.840 was a couple months old. But she's she's kind of 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.639 coming for a couple of hours in the morning, leaving 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.360 and then coming back for a couple hours so you 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.800 can go do your clinics. Because she doesn't want to 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.480 be even part time, like she's just she's just really 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.520 helping us until we find someone. So you don't have 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:46.040 a lot of time to work, you know, because you 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.600 have Roman, Yeah, a lot. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.720 It also reminds me of my old obsessive self, Like 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.919 every night I'm having to say myself, put the laptop down, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.000 go to sleep. And I think's part of it because 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.440 I get so much to the but those but when 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.960 you guys, when you're here and everyone's here, there's like, Okay, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.320 you can't work. Your family's here and you need to 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:11.920 you need to be present. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.960 Well, you can work. It's just the time and is 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:18.560 very important to me because it's like when the kids 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.560 are on from school. Kat knows pretty much anyone knows. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.000 I'm not really gonna I'm not going to respond if 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.560 it's because I want to be laser focused and in 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:28.760 present with the kids. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.240 Yeah. Yeah, Like tonight I've got I've got the Yesterday 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.240 i was filming obviously, and then tonight I've got another 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.040 another clinic, and then when I come back from the clinic, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.200 I've got a zoom with a new client. Like I 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.640 wouldn't normally do stuff like that at that time. Of night. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.600 So I guess it's just like, Okay, there's a and 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.800 it's from my obsessive nature of Okay, Jana's Jana's not here, 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.240 so you don't does No, you can't give her any 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.600 of your time at night, so you just have to work. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.840 What will it be a transition period when. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:03.200 I come back? 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.600 Will it be a transition case? 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.800 I think there's always a transition when you go, because 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.480 I mean we've spent it'll be a total of but 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.640 three and a half weeks, not together. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.680 Well, not not together being together for days with them. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.640 Two days but I mean not like a full three 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.240 and a half, but like you know, two days here, 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.080 four days and then that's pretty much it. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.920 So there'll be a transition, Yeah, because you'll come back 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.760 and check the island and see if it's been wiped 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:27.320 and cleaned. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.719 Yeah, I'm a psycho my island. That's all I ask. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.200 I literally ask for one thing, you know, two things. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.279 The two things. I don't want to come home to 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.440 laundry because after and I'll be coming from the final 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.320 week here is overnight, so I'll be working from five 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.080 pm to five five to six am, So I'm not 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:49.880 going to be going to bed until like seven am 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.719 by the time, because it's an hour drive from set, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:57.440 so it'll be so I'll I'll be finishing and then 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.440 like coming home that last day with a zero sleep. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.080 So I'm like that, I just know me, and I'm like, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:04.640 I want to come I don't want to come home 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:05.200 to laundry. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.240 I've already briefed Sarah. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:14.920 Sarah what not Sarah's job do the laundry. I also 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:15.719 like the island. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.400 It really just like I don't want to see a 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.440 ring stain on the island. It's just like my one 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.960 thing where I'm just a total psycho over. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.960 I don't worry, babe. You know you're not going to 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.320 come back sleep deprived and have to do laundry and 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:29.039 clean the house. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.080 Okay, thanks. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.480 I just know how I get because I I. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.240 No one will domesticate me ever, but I get that. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.960 I'm also not selfish and realize you need to come 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.960 back to an environment where you don't need to worry 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.240 about laundry and cleaning. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.520 What's something for you like when you come back, Like, 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.240 what is something that when you go away that is 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.200 important to you when you come home? Because I've never 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.920 asked you that, like when you come back from London, 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:01.560 you know, or whenever you go, what is something that 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:08.719 you're like, Hey, I actually would like this different next time. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:14.039 Nothing because I always have a clean house for you. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.280 But even if the house wasn't clean about okay, she 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.000 had the kids. I've been away for a week, she 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.640 had the kids. I understand, I get it, But different 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:23.880 people when it comes to that. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.720 Way, Okay, how else have you been with me here? 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.880 But we're not good being away from each other. We're 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.400 not good. Like I always want to know what you're 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.880 doing and how you are and if you're struggling. But 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.920 there's also a part of me is like okay, shun 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.359 movie set and it needs a time to Like, I know, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.920 you can't communicate whenever you want to communicate. I think 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:52.000 sometimes that's tough when when we're apart, because you you 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.120 might have howls and hours and hours where you don't 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.920 really get to You might be able to look at 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.960 your phone, but you can't then respond to things that 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.719 are on your phone. So I'm always really aware of 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.000 that as well, that you need your space to focus 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:09.520 and operate the way that you need to operate. But 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.680 I definitely prefer you here that's for sure. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:13.679 Well, I can't wait to come home. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.160 Wait if you come home, what what do you miss 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.840 when you're away? Like, it's different for you because you're 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.320 you're there and you're totally immersed and what you're doing, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.480 and you have your detached from us, So you're one 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.960 person detached from the four of us, whereas we we 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.760 are like four people here who have are detached for you, 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.560 like you're I've still got Roman and Jolie and Jesse here. 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.920 You've got no one there. Yeah, so it's different for you. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:50.600 This movie has been a harder. This has been tough 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:55.760 because I've always at least had Roman with me, and 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.520 so this has been it hasn't been my favorite shoot 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.520 with that in mind, with that piece of it, just 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.800 because I like having you know, I obviously love having 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.520 Julian Jace with me, but they're at school. I'm not 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.160 going to be selfish and be like, all right, the 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:13.000 whole gang's coming. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:13.960 That's just not right. 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.880 So they have to stay in their school, and you know, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.040 they'll obviously come up from Mother's Day weekend, which will 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.280 be lovely. But with Roman, it's like he's not in 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.200 a school, so he could be here with me, and 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.280 so that piece is I've just I've always had the 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.360 baby with me when I was on set, so to 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:35.280 not have Roman here is is hard, but also it's 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.440 a piece of me. And I was talking to Haley 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:44.120 Duff about this, our director, where you know, there's also 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:49.720 a sense of as I've gotten older, I would stress 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.160 out so much to make sure okay, and every break 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:53.520 I had to go back to my trailer and had 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.080 to see Joli or I have to see Jace, and 0:08:55.480 --> 0:09:00.240 I just I didn't actually get to fully immerse myself 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.520 into what I was doing, enjoy it and probably give 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.760 the best that I could do because I was so 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.600 focused on just making running running back to my trailer 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.560 to like see the kids for five seconds and then 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.480 running back to set. So I would like to find 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.880 the balance. This isn't the balance. I like like to 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.720 not have them at all. But of course our nanny 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.120 situation had changed, so we didn't get the opportunity to 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:29.600 bring someone with Roman. So hopefully the next one we 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.839 can splits fill it, because this is this is too 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.959 long without them for sure. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.880 Yeah, what do you think of Lexington? Because we were 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.080 very nearly doing a lot of traveling, bay. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:40.080 I love Lexington. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.600 I think, well, from what i've I mean, I say 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.240 that I haven't even been to the city yet. I'm 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:45.959 going to go check out Whole Foods right after this, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.680 so go into the city. But you know, from what 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.160 I've seen, everyone's been really sweet. But I mean mostly 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.920 it's just been in and out of the hotel, door 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.240 to the car and onto set so but it is 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:04.200 it's a beautiful state. Lots of obviously horses and farm country. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:09.520 So and we've been filming at the heiress of the 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.520 Wrigley so the daughter I believe it is, but yeah, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.360 she's the heiress of the Wriggly family. So it's a 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.720 Misdy is her name, And uh yeah, we've been at 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.240 her farm, and I mean it is just doneing. This 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:29.200 location is so beautiful and it's it's been great. But 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.640 I would love my babies to be here. But I 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.080 know you're you're building and doing your thing and and 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.640 it's important right now for you to build those certain things. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.719 And you know you can't be here where in other 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.480 times you've been able to. So but hopefully we can 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:45.600 find a happy balance on. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:46.120 The next one. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.280 Sure we will, Sure we will. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.360 And speaking of building things and you know, you're building 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:57.560 some new, really exciting things. You're in a way, I mean, 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.000 I feel like it's a it's a comeback, right. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.040 That's a good question. I think it's a comeback for 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:09.319 the brand, not really for myself, because the Superior Striker 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.439 brand was building and building and building, and then when 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.480 I took the England job for five years, it was 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.640 almost had to suppress the brand because of all the 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:22.480 privacy stuff. So there's a lot of different arms of 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.800 the brand which had to go because of the England rule. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.000 And now I feel like it's so much going on 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.760 with the with the brand that it's almost like a 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:36.400 comeback for for that and the many different areas that 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:40.280 the brand can cover. So it's exciting. It's really exciting 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:47.120 hard work, particularly the time. It's amazing that euroway filming 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:53.000 movies and we've got a sixteen month old who's crazy 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.120 seventeen seventeen months yeah, seventeen months old. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.000 Bad to be eighteen mm hmm. Yeah, but no for sure. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.920 But I say it as a yeah, a building. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.560 And I'm building something that I've always wanted. I've always 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.000 wanted Superia Striker to be in the technology saye of things, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.360 and the digital say, so that is Yeah, there's a 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.640 lot of fulfillment and this building process. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.360 Yeah, and I see that, and I know that, and 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.400 I know that you need to be there and building 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.960 that stuff, and so you know, I support you in 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.720 that too, and I'm excited to see you. I know 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.719 it's not exactly you know, the the role, but it's 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.000 also one of the roles you want to do, you know. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.160 So it's it's exciting all of it. And You've got 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.800 some really new, exciting clients that I'm sure we can't 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.200 share yet, but it's all very exciting. And so I 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:51.840 see it as a comeback for sure. And our next guest, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:57.040 Christos Garkyos, is also very well aware of comeback, says 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.120 he has a new book out, so let's take a 0:12:59.120 --> 0:12:59.920 break and get him on. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.920 Hi there, Hi, how are you YouTube? 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:15.680 Fellow Detroiter? 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.800 I know, Wait, where in Detroit are you from? 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.760 I was actually originally born in Detroit. In the city. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.040 My parents had a restaurant in the Eastern Market for 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.760 thirty years. Oh wow, and we moved on up and 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:27.480 went to gross Point. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.160 So okay, that's where I was born gross Point. Yeah, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.120 I was born in Grosse Pointe and then yeah, and 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:37.600 then I was raised in Washington Township, totally in between 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.560 Romeo and Washington and Rochester. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.480 That was like farm country back then. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.160 Yeah, I mean it still is. My old house that 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.880 I grew up in is still off a dirt road, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.880 and so yeah, all the things. Well, let's just jump 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.520 right into This is my husband Alan, he's in Nashville. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.880 I'm in Kentucky right now to meet. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.400 So I was reading them to a lot of your 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.160 story and it's really interesting because you've almost became this 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.400 evolutionist where you're always ahead of the curve. They like 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.040 when I look at when I look at your how 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.400 how your storyline develops. Like you started in the Virgin stores, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.520 which is what everyone loved back then, going to record stores, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.679 and so you maximize that. And then you went onto 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.000 the the home shopping network, which is the evolution of 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.880 going into stores, so you kind of mastered that. And 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.880 then you went into the Instagram Live stuff, which you 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:34.600 were selling all the all the fashion items too. So 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:39.040 you've almost become this master of evolution. And you've and 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.480 you've clearly had your It's not been a straightforward journey. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.080 You've clearly had your setbacks along the way, like every 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.400 like every leader and powerful person does. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.920 Yeah, it's been so basically like I've been fortuitous to 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.800 kind of have a life where basically things kind of 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.040 fell in my lap. And then some people, when things 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.560 happen to them, do you either take the opportunity or 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.000 or or I mean I got Here's how I got 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.360 my virgin jobs. I worked for Richard Branson for five years, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.480 which who was like the most amazing man in the world, 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.320 and I was. I used to go to the Virgin 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.280 megastore in Paris, and I remember that store in Paris. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.720 I'm chances I would spend ten hours in the store. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:14.400 I just loved it. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.560 And when you're twenty eight years old, you're thinking, like, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:17.680 you know, what's my dream job? 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:18.560 And I set it out loud. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.640 I can tell you right now, working for Richard Branson, 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.560 head of marketing back in la where my life is. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.920 That's where I want to be. Cut to. Two months later, 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.480 I was on a really bad blind date in London. Bad. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.720 I old my stomach. I had to leave you in 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:32.200 the whole thing. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.320 Oh no, you called this fake stomach gig. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.080 That I was come out. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:38.960 He tried to feed me on the date, I was like, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.080 this is not going to work. Standing back, and so 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.800 I went to the sub Virgin Mega store in Piccadilly 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.480 and like that's what where I hang out. And so 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.040 I and I love Billboard charts. I love the music 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.360 charts was like my thing. And so I flipped I 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.080 saw the Billboard magazine, which was like a month prior. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.360 I have one copy in the corner, and this is 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.000 before the Internet, and I'm flipping through it and I 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.240 flipped to the want ads and there's my job, Virgin 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.920 megastore head a marketing in Los Angeles, I swear to you. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:08.960 And I was like, oh my god, this is a 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.120 time from God. I have to get this job. So 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.000 I faxed them the next day I was and I'm 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.680 playing two days later and I got the job. So 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.760 these things kind of happened to me, you know, sort 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.520 of like and I think it's like, you know, a 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.520 godshot that I call it, and I'm able to kind 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.080 of just you have to you have to like not 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.480 wait for the universe to kind of like. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:24.040 Take you there. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.600 You have to take that first steps. That's what that's 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.680 what my job, my life's all about. That happened to 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.280 me with you know, Home Shopping Network. I was obsessed 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.640 with it as a kid. I should have been playing sports, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.040 but I was home watching Home Shopping Network and hoping, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.680 like people will get sell out like this a woman 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.160 named Adrian, Adrian RPL who's a big makeup artist, and 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.160 she was like I actually ended up meeting here. When 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.920 I was just saying, she's like fifty five years old, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.840 I was seventeen, and she's like and she was like 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:46.600 a Jewish New York or lady. I even know what 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:47.920 that meant back in the day, but she was like 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.000 putting on makeup and I wanted her to win. And 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.680 they would hear screams from my bedroom, like when she 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.120 had to sell out, and my parents like, what are 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.040 you doing? Like, I'm watching Home Network and I want 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.480 to be on this at some point in my life. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.800 Cut to you. I have been to get a Bravo show. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.280 I have my own Brabosh show for a year called 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.960 du Some El Rows. And the whole reason why I 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.080 did the show was to get into the asius and 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.359 offices to pitch me. I knew that the series was fine, 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:11.639 but it was like it was gonna last a year. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.239 I knew it so I had like a one year 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.480 opportunity to make this happen. I made it happen, and 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.440 I just was When that happened to me Home Shopping Network, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.040 it was my life changed. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.639 So so are you kind of under the belief then 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.880 if you say it, think it, believe it, then it'll become. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.359 It one hundred percent. That's been my entire life. I've 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.240 you know, the first moment I knew, like I kind 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.480 of had. I mean, I'm like a six spider sense 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.480 is like I was nine years old in Michigan. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.040 H'm from. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.280 You know, my parents had a Greek restaurant. I started 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.080 working when I was four years old. My parents' restaurant, 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.680 like they put me on top of milk rate, was 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.959 called Nick the Greek. He was an impossibly handsome man 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.240 who was a cook. My mother was out front. They 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.919 would be screaming all day along but I'd be at 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.399 the register, like at four years old, taking money. So 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.600 I was like, you know, I knew there was something. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.679 I knew there was something happening here. But when I 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.320 was nine, I was being gross point and funny enough. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.240 My my grade school is called Fairy Elementary, which is 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:06.720 the kind of nutty that I ended up being gay, 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.719 but by myself playing teather ball. So I didn't have 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.680 many friends because you know, we moved from Detroit, which 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.439 is very not segregated, like very mixed, uh, and we 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.119 moved to a gross point, which you know, Johnna is like 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.600 the most one of the most, and we were not wealthy. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.639 We were like, you know, we basically integrated because we 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.480 were dark skinned and Greek. And I took shish kabab 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.719 the lunch or like, what the hell is this? How 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.600 do you put pink and green together? I don't understand. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.359 So I was playing teatherball by myself and I because 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.200 I had no friends, and the ball was going around 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.800 and then outside the fence was like this high squirrel 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.000 girl smoking cigarette but she had like really high heels 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.399 on and I heard the clickly clock of her heels 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.240 like outside from my ear and if dad manut it 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.560 at nine years old, won't forget. I said, someday, I'm 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.359 going to be around that sound. I don't know what, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.240 but I'm going to be around what that means. And 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.119 it was like a Eureka moment for me. But in 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.639 typical crystals fashion, the ball came around and hit me 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.960 right in the face the tether ball and I. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.320 Got a black eye. So that's life. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.280 Like life kind of gives you these moments where it's 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:04.880 like I think I figured this out and then you're. 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.280 Like, no, not so much. So that's why I think 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:09.520 I love that. 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.359 Yeah, what would you? So you've obviously had You've had 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.159 a successful career and you've had a successful Johnny, what 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:20.520 has been the highlight or your most successful key lead 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:21.120 in your life? 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.480 Jeez, I've had some fun time. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.919 I think if I look back at it, I think 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.080 working in Virgin Mega Store and having all these openings, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.040 I dealt with everybody. Everybody, everybody's diva that could be 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.520