1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Hello my little wife, hi vebe. This is a debut 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: of podcasting away from each other. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: I know. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: I've got I've got a little blank space next to 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: me on the sofa here. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: Do you miss me? 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: There? 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: I have a question for you, because I haven't been 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: home because you're holding down the fort there in uh Tennessee, 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm in Kentucky film in my movie. How has it 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: been with me not there? Be honest? 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: How has it been with you? 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Like? I feel like in a way you almost enjoy 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: it when I'm not there, Not in a bad way, 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: no where, in a way where you can just go 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: in your office and close the door and for hours 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: on end, and you know, work all night long because 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: you're such a you love to just be in your 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: office and work, work, work, and when I'm gone, that's 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: you know, not that you can't do that when you're home. 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: But also I'm like, hey, family time and cuddles, TV shows. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, First, the first thing is you're my wife, and 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: you're you're away from the family home. So there's a 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: part of that where it doesn't feel right that you're 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: not here. The second part is that you are away 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: doing something that you love doing. So therefore there's there's 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a part of me is proud of you doing that, 29 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: and I know the kids are proud of you away 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: working for the family and doing things that you love 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: and making movies. So it's good to see you happy 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: and fulfilled when you go and do these movies. But 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: and the third part is my mind goes to a 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: different almost goes to a different place when you're not here, 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: because I know that when Roman goes to bed, So 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: we've obviously got someone looking after Roman for certain parts 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: that and he's been looked after. I'm like, Okay, work 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: as much as I can squeeze as much in and 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: then there's almost like a calmness because I know and 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: he goes to bed, that's like, okay, straight back to walk. 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: Well, because the person that's helping she was she was 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Roman's fascinating part time. 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: I would say she was. 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: She was like twenty to twenty five hours when he 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: was a couple months old. But she's she's kind of 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: coming for a couple of hours in the morning, leaving 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: and then coming back for a couple hours so you 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: can go do your clinics. Because she doesn't want to 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: be even part time, like she's just she's just really 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: helping us until we find someone. So you don't have 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: a lot of time to work, you know, because you 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: have Roman, Yeah, a lot. 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: It also reminds me of my old obsessive self, Like 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: every night I'm having to say myself, put the laptop down, 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: go to sleep. And I think's part of it because 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I get so much to the but those but when 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: you guys, when you're here and everyone's here, there's like, Okay, 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: you can't work. Your family's here and you need to 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: you need to be present. 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Well, you can work. It's just the time and is 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: very important to me because it's like when the kids 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: are on from school. Kat knows pretty much anyone knows. 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm not really gonna I'm not going to respond if 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: it's because I want to be laser focused and in 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: present with the kids. 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like tonight I've got I've got the Yesterday 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: i was filming obviously, and then tonight I've got another 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: another clinic, and then when I come back from the clinic, 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I've got a zoom with a new client. Like I 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally do stuff like that at that time. Of night. 71 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: So I guess it's just like, Okay, there's a and 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: it's from my obsessive nature of Okay, Jana's Jana's not here, 73 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: so you don't does No, you can't give her any 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: of your time at night, so you just have to work. 75 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: What will it be a transition period when. 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: I come back? 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Will it be a transition case? 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: I think there's always a transition when you go, because 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: I mean we've spent it'll be a total of but 80 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: three and a half weeks, not together. 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Well, not not together being together for days with them. 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: Two days but I mean not like a full three 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: and a half, but like you know, two days here, 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: four days and then that's pretty much it. 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: So there'll be a transition, Yeah, because you'll come back 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: and check the island and see if it's been wiped 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: and cleaned. 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a psycho my island. That's all I ask. 89 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: I literally ask for one thing, you know, two things. 90 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: The two things. I don't want to come home to 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: laundry because after and I'll be coming from the final 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: week here is overnight, so I'll be working from five 93 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: pm to five five to six am, So I'm not 94 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: going to be going to bed until like seven am 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: by the time, because it's an hour drive from set, 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: so it'll be so I'll I'll be finishing and then 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: like coming home that last day with a zero sleep. 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: So I'm like that, I just know me, and I'm like, 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: I want to come I don't want to come home 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: to laundry. 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: I've already briefed Sarah. 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: Sarah what not Sarah's job do the laundry. I also 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: like the island. 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: It really just like I don't want to see a 105 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: ring stain on the island. It's just like my one 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: thing where I'm just a total psycho over. 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't worry, babe. You know you're not going to 108 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: come back sleep deprived and have to do laundry and 109 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: clean the house. 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks. 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: I just know how I get because I I. 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: No one will domesticate me ever, but I get that. 113 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm also not selfish and realize you need to come 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: back to an environment where you don't need to worry 115 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: about laundry and cleaning. 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: What's something for you like when you come back, Like, 117 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: what is something that when you go away that is 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: important to you when you come home? Because I've never 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: asked you that, like when you come back from London, 120 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: you know, or whenever you go, what is something that 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: you're like, Hey, I actually would like this different next time. 122 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: Nothing because I always have a clean house for you. 123 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: But even if the house wasn't clean about okay, she 124 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: had the kids. I've been away for a week, she 125 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: had the kids. I understand, I get it, But different 126 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: people when it comes to that. 127 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: Way, Okay, how else have you been with me here? 128 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: But we're not good being away from each other. We're 129 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: not good. Like I always want to know what you're 130 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: doing and how you are and if you're struggling. But 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: there's also a part of me is like okay, shun 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: movie set and it needs a time to Like, I know, 133 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: you can't communicate whenever you want to communicate. I think 134 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: sometimes that's tough when when we're apart, because you you 135 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: might have howls and hours and hours where you don't 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: really get to You might be able to look at 137 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: your phone, but you can't then respond to things that 138 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: are on your phone. So I'm always really aware of 139 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: that as well, that you need your space to focus 140 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: and operate the way that you need to operate. But 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: I definitely prefer you here that's for sure. 142 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait to come home. 143 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Wait if you come home, what what do you miss 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: when you're away? Like, it's different for you because you're 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: you're there and you're totally immersed and what you're doing, 146 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: and you have your detached from us, So you're one 147 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: person detached from the four of us, whereas we we 148 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: are like four people here who have are detached for you, 149 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: like you're I've still got Roman and Jolie and Jesse here. 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: You've got no one there. Yeah, so it's different for you. 151 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: This movie has been a harder. This has been tough 152 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: because I've always at least had Roman with me, and 153 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: so this has been it hasn't been my favorite shoot 154 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: with that in mind, with that piece of it, just 155 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: because I like having you know, I obviously love having 156 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: Julian Jace with me, but they're at school. I'm not 157 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: going to be selfish and be like, all right, the 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: whole gang's coming. 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: That's just not right. 160 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: So they have to stay in their school, and you know, 161 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: they'll obviously come up from Mother's Day weekend, which will 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: be lovely. But with Roman, it's like he's not in 163 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: a school, so he could be here with me, and 164 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: so that piece is I've just I've always had the 165 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: baby with me when I was on set, so to 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: not have Roman here is is hard, but also it's 167 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: a piece of me. And I was talking to Haley 168 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: Duff about this, our director, where you know, there's also 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: a sense of as I've gotten older, I would stress 170 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: out so much to make sure okay, and every break 171 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: I had to go back to my trailer and had 172 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: to see Joli or I have to see Jace, and 173 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: I just I didn't actually get to fully immerse myself 174 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: into what I was doing, enjoy it and probably give 175 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: the best that I could do because I was so 176 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: focused on just making running running back to my trailer 177 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: to like see the kids for five seconds and then 178 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: running back to set. So I would like to find 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: the balance. This isn't the balance. I like like to 180 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: not have them at all. But of course our nanny 181 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: situation had changed, so we didn't get the opportunity to 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: bring someone with Roman. So hopefully the next one we 183 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: can splits fill it, because this is this is too 184 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: long without them for sure. 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of Lexington? Because we were 186 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: very nearly doing a lot of traveling, bay. 187 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: I love Lexington. 188 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: I think, well, from what i've I mean, I say 189 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: that I haven't even been to the city yet. I'm 190 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: going to go check out Whole Foods right after this, 191 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: so go into the city. But you know, from what 192 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: I've seen, everyone's been really sweet. But I mean mostly 193 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: it's just been in and out of the hotel, door 194 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: to the car and onto set so but it is 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: it's a beautiful state. Lots of obviously horses and farm country. 196 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: So and we've been filming at the heiress of the 197 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Wrigley so the daughter I believe it is, but yeah, 198 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: she's the heiress of the Wriggly family. So it's a 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: Misdy is her name, And uh yeah, we've been at 200 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: her farm, and I mean it is just doneing. This 201 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: location is so beautiful and it's it's been great. But 202 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: I would love my babies to be here. But I 203 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: know you're you're building and doing your thing and and 204 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: it's important right now for you to build those certain things. 205 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 2: And you know you can't be here where in other 206 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: times you've been able to. So but hopefully we can 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: find a happy balance on. 208 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: The next one. 209 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Sure we will, Sure we will. 210 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: And speaking of building things and you know, you're building 211 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: some new, really exciting things. You're in a way, I mean, 212 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a it's a comeback, right. 213 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think it's a comeback for 214 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: the brand, not really for myself, because the Superior Striker 215 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: brand was building and building and building, and then when 216 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I took the England job for five years, it was 217 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: almost had to suppress the brand because of all the 218 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: privacy stuff. So there's a lot of different arms of 219 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: the brand which had to go because of the England rule. 220 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: And now I feel like it's so much going on 221 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: with the with the brand that it's almost like a 222 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: comeback for for that and the many different areas that 223 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the brand can cover. So it's exciting. It's really exciting 224 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: hard work, particularly the time. It's amazing that euroway filming 225 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: movies and we've got a sixteen month old who's crazy 226 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen months yeah, seventeen months old. 227 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Bad to be eighteen mm hmm. Yeah, but no for sure. 228 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: But I say it as a yeah, a building. 229 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: And I'm building something that I've always wanted. I've always 230 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: wanted Superia Striker to be in the technology saye of things, 231 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: and the digital say, so that is Yeah, there's a 232 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: lot of fulfillment and this building process. 233 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I see that, and I know that, and 234 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: I know that you need to be there and building 235 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: that stuff, and so you know, I support you in 236 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: that too, and I'm excited to see you. I know 237 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: it's not exactly you know, the the role, but it's 238 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: also one of the roles you want to do, you know. 239 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: So it's it's exciting all of it. And You've got 240 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: some really new, exciting clients that I'm sure we can't 241 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: share yet, but it's all very exciting. And so I 242 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: see it as a comeback for sure. And our next guest, 243 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: Christos Garkyos, is also very well aware of comeback, says 244 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: he has a new book out, so let's take a 245 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: break and get him on. 246 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: Hi there, Hi, how are you YouTube? 247 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: Fellow Detroiter? 248 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: I know, Wait, where in Detroit are you from? 249 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: I was actually originally born in Detroit. In the city. 250 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: My parents had a restaurant in the Eastern Market for 251 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: thirty years. Oh wow, and we moved on up and 252 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: went to gross Point. 253 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: So okay, that's where I was born gross Point. Yeah, 254 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: I was born in Grosse Pointe and then yeah, and 255 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: then I was raised in Washington Township, totally in between 256 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: Romeo and Washington and Rochester. 257 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: That was like farm country back then. 258 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it still is. My old house that 259 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: I grew up in is still off a dirt road, 260 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: and so yeah, all the things. Well, let's just jump 261 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: right into This is my husband Alan, he's in Nashville. 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm in Kentucky right now to meet. 263 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: So I was reading them to a lot of your 264 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: story and it's really interesting because you've almost became this 265 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: evolutionist where you're always ahead of the curve. They like 266 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: when I look at when I look at your how 267 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: how your storyline develops. Like you started in the Virgin stores, 268 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: which is what everyone loved back then, going to record stores, 269 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: and so you maximize that. And then you went onto 270 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: the the home shopping network, which is the evolution of 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: going into stores, so you kind of mastered that. And 272 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: then you went into the Instagram Live stuff, which you 273 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: were selling all the all the fashion items too. So 274 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you've almost become this master of evolution. And you've and 275 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: you've clearly had your It's not been a straightforward journey. 276 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: You've clearly had your setbacks along the way, like every 277 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: like every leader and powerful person does. 278 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been so basically like I've been fortuitous to 279 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: kind of have a life where basically things kind of 280 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 5: fell in my lap. And then some people, when things 281 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 5: happen to them, do you either take the opportunity or 282 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 5: or or I mean I got Here's how I got 283 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: my virgin jobs. I worked for Richard Branson for five years, 284 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: which who was like the most amazing man in the world, 285 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 5: and I was. I used to go to the Virgin 286 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: megastore in Paris, and I remember that store in Paris. 287 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: I'm chances I would spend ten hours in the store. 288 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: I just loved it. 289 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: And when you're twenty eight years old, you're thinking, like, 290 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: you know, what's my dream job? 291 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: And I set it out loud. 292 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 5: I can tell you right now, working for Richard Branson, 293 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 5: head of marketing back in la where my life is. 294 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: That's where I want to be. Cut to. Two months later, 295 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: I was on a really bad blind date in London. Bad. 296 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: I old my stomach. I had to leave you in 297 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: the whole thing. 298 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: Oh no, you called this fake stomach gig. 299 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: That I was come out. 300 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: He tried to feed me on the date, I was like, 301 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: this is not going to work. Standing back, and so 302 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: I went to the sub Virgin Mega store in Piccadilly 303 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 5: and like that's what where I hang out. And so 304 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: I and I love Billboard charts. I love the music 305 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 5: charts was like my thing. And so I flipped I 306 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: saw the Billboard magazine, which was like a month prior. 307 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: I have one copy in the corner, and this is 308 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: before the Internet, and I'm flipping through it and I 309 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 5: flipped to the want ads and there's my job, Virgin 310 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: megastore head a marketing in Los Angeles, I swear to you. 311 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my god, this is a 312 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 5: time from God. I have to get this job. So 313 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: I faxed them the next day I was and I'm 314 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: playing two days later and I got the job. So 315 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 5: these things kind of happened to me, you know, sort 316 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: of like and I think it's like, you know, a 317 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 5: godshot that I call it, and I'm able to kind 318 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: of just you have to you have to like not 319 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: wait for the universe to kind of like. 320 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: Take you there. 321 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: You have to take that first steps. That's what that's 322 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 5: what my job, my life's all about. That happened to 323 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: me with you know, Home Shopping Network. I was obsessed 324 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: with it as a kid. I should have been playing sports, 325 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 5: but I was home watching Home Shopping Network and hoping, 326 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 5: like people will get sell out like this a woman 327 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: named Adrian, Adrian RPL who's a big makeup artist, and 328 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: she was like I actually ended up meeting here. When 329 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 5: I was just saying, she's like fifty five years old, 330 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: I was seventeen, and she's like and she was like 331 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: a Jewish New York or lady. I even know what 332 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: that meant back in the day, but she was like 333 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: putting on makeup and I wanted her to win. And 334 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: they would hear screams from my bedroom, like when she 335 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: had to sell out, and my parents like, what are 336 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: you doing? Like, I'm watching Home Network and I want 337 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: to be on this at some point in my life. 338 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: Cut to you. I have been to get a Bravo show. 339 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: I have my own Brabosh show for a year called 340 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 5: du Some El Rows. And the whole reason why I 341 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: did the show was to get into the asius and 342 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: offices to pitch me. I knew that the series was fine, 343 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: but it was like it was gonna last a year. 344 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 5: I knew it so I had like a one year 345 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: opportunity to make this happen. I made it happen, and 346 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 5: I just was When that happened to me Home Shopping Network, 347 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: it was my life changed. 348 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: So so are you kind of under the belief then 349 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: if you say it, think it, believe it, then it'll become. 350 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 5: It one hundred percent. That's been my entire life. I've 351 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: you know, the first moment I knew, like I kind 352 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: of had. I mean, I'm like a six spider sense 353 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 5: is like I was nine years old in Michigan. 354 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: H'm from. 355 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 5: You know, my parents had a Greek restaurant. I started 356 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: working when I was four years old. My parents' restaurant, 357 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 5: like they put me on top of milk rate, was 358 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 5: called Nick the Greek. He was an impossibly handsome man 359 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 5: who was a cook. My mother was out front. They 360 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 5: would be screaming all day along but I'd be at 361 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 5: the register, like at four years old, taking money. So 362 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I knew there was something. 363 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 5: I knew there was something happening here. But when I 364 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: was nine, I was being gross point and funny enough. 365 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: My my grade school is called Fairy Elementary, which is 366 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: the kind of nutty that I ended up being gay, 367 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 5: but by myself playing teather ball. So I didn't have 368 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 5: many friends because you know, we moved from Detroit, which 369 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 5: is very not segregated, like very mixed, uh, and we 370 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: moved to a gross point, which you know, Johnna is like 371 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: the most one of the most, and we were not wealthy. 372 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 5: We were like, you know, we basically integrated because we 373 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: were dark skinned and Greek. And I took shish kabab 374 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 5: the lunch or like, what the hell is this? How 375 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: do you put pink and green together? I don't understand. 376 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 5: So I was playing teatherball by myself and I because 377 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 5: I had no friends, and the ball was going around 378 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: and then outside the fence was like this high squirrel 379 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: girl smoking cigarette but she had like really high heels 380 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 5: on and I heard the clickly clock of her heels 381 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: like outside from my ear and if dad manut it 382 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: at nine years old, won't forget. I said, someday, I'm 383 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: going to be around that sound. I don't know what, 384 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: but I'm going to be around what that means. And 385 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 5: it was like a Eureka moment for me. But in 386 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: typical crystals fashion, the ball came around and hit me 387 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: right in the face the tether ball and I. 388 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: Got a black eye. So that's life. 389 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: Like life kind of gives you these moments where it's 390 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 5: like I think I figured this out and then you're. 391 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: Like, no, not so much. So that's why I think 392 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: I love that. 393 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you? So you've obviously had You've had 394 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: a successful career and you've had a successful Johnny, what 395 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: has been the highlight or your most successful key lead 396 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: in your life? 397 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: Jeez, I've had some fun time. 398 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: I think if I look back at it, I think 399 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: working in Virgin Mega Store and having all these openings, 400 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 5: I dealt with everybody. Everybody, everybody's diva that could be 401 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: known to mankind. I love music and so it's been 402 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: a big part of my life, so you know deal, 403 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 5: you know, meeting Share. I wrote down a sleigh with 404 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: share don Michigan Avenue for Christmas, like and that's like 405 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 5: a gay boys dream, right. I think that I think that, 406 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: you know, that was kind of when I was able 407 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: to kind of like really kind of come into my 408 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 5: own So it's very corporate. When I went for Brandson, 409 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: I was able to kind of be my own person. 410 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: But I think the biggest thing is, like, you know, I, I, 411 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 5: you know, sobriety is a big part of my story. 412 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 5: And so I got sober nine years ago last Thursday, 413 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: and I got I went thank you, But I went 414 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: crazy at fifty, like loss has kind of been. That 415 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 5: was like my dad died when I was young, and 416 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 5: my best friends died when I was younger, and my 417 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: really best friend died and I went off the rails 418 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 5: and I left my husband. I'm actually the most legally 419 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: gay man, legally married gay man in America. I've been 420 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 5: married three times. 421 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: Legally and divorced twice legally. 422 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 5: So I think I'm in the given this book for 423 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 5: gay records at some point. But anyways, I left my 424 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: entire life after after my friend died, when when I 425 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: turned fifty and I went down this road and what 426 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: happened was I lost everything. I ended up coming up 427 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 5: for air basically in May twenty sixteen and was a 428 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 5: million dollars in debt. Had just ruined my life, my 429 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 5: friendships and everybody, and I had to kind of literally 430 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: rebuild everything. And so for me being we're mad right now, 431 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: being able to tell my story of redemption and having 432 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 5: these kind of amazing things happen, and where I am 433 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: in someone. I'm in people's lives like every day, so 434 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 5: there's thousands of people too, and every day to see 435 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: my Instagram live shows and shop and and have community 436 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: and you know, and kind of be able to grow 437 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: it and to this kind of like huge deal has 438 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 5: been like the biggest sort of comeback for me basically 439 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 5: but compy but not happened. 440 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: One word changed my life during this whole combat period. 441 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: I was in Detroit, actually, Jenna and I was down 442 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 5: in my last three thousand dollars and someone said, hey, 443 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: you're from Detroit. I was living in LA Can you 444 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 5: go host to dinner for or some I'm like in Detroit. 445 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: I'm like sure, I haven't been there five years, but 446 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 5: I'll figure it out now. It was like three thousand dollars. 447 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 5: I was able to put this dinner together at the 448 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 5: Foundation and a hotel, and this woman and I kind 449 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 5: of like connected over the table at dinner that night, 450 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: and I have breakfast around with me and I knew 451 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 5: she worked with the hotel chain. 452 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was like. All this is 453 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: like really cool. It was at the Foundation Hotel, which 454 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: is in. 455 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 5: Detroit downtown the old Firehouse, and we're just talking and 456 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: I just and I had just been nearly sober, and 457 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: I said to her like, I'm just I'm just trudging 458 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: through life now. Trudging is a big a word, like 459 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 5: you know, you're trudging the road to a happy destiny. 460 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 5: And she she leaned into me and she said, are 461 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: you sober? And because the breakfast weren' drinking and I'm like, yeah, 462 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: she just so am I How can I help you? 463 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 5: She from that one word, if I didn't say it, 464 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 5: she stepped me up in these small cities like Omaha, 465 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: Minneapolis and the b cities for me to go do 466 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 5: my luxury trunk shows, which I do now and put 467 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 5: me back on my path to like for my comeback, 468 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: my aventu will comeback. So the great this thing was 469 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: I did my I've Been a fifteen city book tour 470 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 5: from my book covered the comeback, and I met her 471 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 5: where she lives down in Tennessee, and she she and 472 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: I reconnected that for all these years. 473 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: So I love that. 474 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: I think that's and that's kind of where you took 475 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: an opportunity and then from there, you know, just in 476 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: having conversation and meeting other people. I think that's I 477 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: always love how life works like that because I always 478 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: think you're meeting someone for a reason, You're doing certain 479 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: things for a reason, and whether it leads you longer 480 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: on your journey or destination, or you know, it kind 481 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: of guides you in a different way. I always think 482 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: there's a purpose for why we're connected and why we 483 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: do certain things. 484 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: I agree. 485 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: Do you think if you're not sober at that point 486 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity presents yourself or. 487 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: Not, Oh, I wouldn't be alive. I don't. 488 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 5: I was down the path of like, you know, my 489 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 5: path was, you know, I'll do coke and I'll hey, 490 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: I'll ask a matter all onto it. 491 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: Like I was, like I was just in a self 492 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: destructive mode. 493 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: And I think I know for sure that if I 494 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: was not, if I'm not sober, like I couldn't have 495 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 5: done all this because there's a lot of there's a 496 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 5: lot of pressure even this morning before with you guys, 497 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: like I'm in the business meeting. I'm like, oh my god, 498 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: this is happening. So I don't think I can I 499 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 5: you know, there's two types of sobriety. Obviously there's the 500 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: drinking and drugging, which I don't really you know, miss, 501 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 5: but It's all about your emotional sobriety and like how 502 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 5: you treat people and how you treat others and how 503 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 5: when a stressful situation comes up. I talk a lot 504 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 5: in about the book about staying in solution. Like my 505 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: team has gone from me to now I have like 506 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 5: eighty people working for me, and like there's there's a 507 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 5: lot we're in retail. Things move fast, a lot of 508 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 5: problems have to be solved, and like, guys, just let's 509 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 5: think about solution, Like don't worry about what the eventual 510 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 5: outcome is. 511 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: I talk about not future yourself. 512 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 5: So if you live in the future too much about 513 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 5: like what if what's going to happen, you're gonna fit yourself. 514 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: So I just talk about like staying in, you know, 515 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: in the present to have you know, a solution happen, 516 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 5: right and so and so that's like been my guiding 517 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: force in terms of like how I live life, and 518 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: so that I learned that because I'm sober and I 519 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: don't think about I think if I wasn't living more 520 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: as I am, living more emotionally emotionally sober, I wouldn't 521 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 5: be able to like deal with, like with being thrown 522 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 5: at me on a daily basis because you know, listen, 523 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: I'm you know, as you guys are, I'm responsible for 524 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 5: a lot of people's like happiness during the day. They 525 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 5: tune in, they want a piece of me, I give 526 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 5: it to them. You know, we were shopping, but they're 527 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 5: also like wondering, like how my day was, and so 528 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 5: I've got to like, you know, turn it on, you know, 529 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: and and uh and then realize that some people you know, 530 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: maybe watching me who are like not feeling well, and 531 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: I'm their only only connection because like that's for me, 532 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 5: you know, connection is the most important thing we can 533 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 5: do as humans, and for somebody who's I'm you know, 534 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: despite me kind of talking a lot, I'm a loner 535 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: and so uh so I'm taking contrary action every day 536 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 5: to kind of. 537 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 4: Like have that connection happen. 538 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: In your book, you know, obviously it's about the come 539 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: like having a comeback. What are your tips for people like, 540 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: for for example, I'll just take mine, like I would 541 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: love to get back on you know, a TV show, 542 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: and I want to have that kind of comeback, but 543 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: it's not coming at the time that I want it to. 544 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: You know. It's from my husband. He wants the head coaching. 545 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: It's not coming in the time that he is wanting 546 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: it to be, like right now in the present. So 547 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: how do you what are some tips for for that 548 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: where it's it's the waiting period, you're speaking it, you're 549 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: saying it, you're doing everything to get there, but it's 550 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: not in the time that you want it to be. 551 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 5: Well, I always go back those like there's your plan, 552 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 5: and there's the universe univers's plan and so, and your 553 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 5: plan is being laughed at by the universe because I 554 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 5: just about like what what is going on? Because you know, 555 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: there's there's always these things like I was late to 556 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: the airport. Thank god I was because I would have 557 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 5: been in that car crash because I didn't know what's happened. 558 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 5: So I feel like those things are happening at all times. 559 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: And when I was at my lowest point where I 560 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 5: literally was like do I have to move back to Michigan, 561 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 5: Like it's like, I mean, you know, I love Michigan, 562 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: but like I can't I can't live there anymore. Like 563 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 5: you know, listen, we're it's you know, I'm very excited 564 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 5: from beefing there, but I couldn't move back. 565 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: Now it's just like no, I hear there's a piece 566 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: of Like when I moved out to Los Angeles when 567 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: I was nineteen, there was a piece of I can 568 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: never go back. I love Michigan, I love going to visit. 569 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: It's still my favorite place. But to go back feels 570 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: like a failure. It feels like that I failed my 571 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: dreams and now I'm coming back to Michigan. 572 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, is it over? 573 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: It is my story over? 574 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: Because I think we're all trying to tell a story. 575 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 5: So I'll get back to your question. So I think 576 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 5: even with you, like I was, people like, oh, get 577 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 5: go conquer Hollywood. Christo's then and for me to like 578 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: to go back and go like, well it beat me 579 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 5: to Polp. I'm back and now I'm working at where 580 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 5: I'm working at. But I think that, like, you know, 581 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: so what you want to do is like just as 582 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 5: you are doing, take that first step, like you're out 583 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: here obviously and and someone's gonna it's gonna, you know, 584 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: recognize you like or or or obviously recognize you, but 585 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: like see what you're. 586 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 4: Trying to do. And then that moved something. 587 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 5: But when I was really at my lowest point, I'd 588 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 5: had these dreams where I was in a forest and 589 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: these trees were falling all over me. 590 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: They're just falling, and. 591 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: I was like the first time I had I was like, 592 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: oh god, that was the worst dream like this. Those 593 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: trees almost hit me when I was walking through it, 594 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: you know, and and and I just I don't want 595 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 5: to have that dream again. Then I had it again, 596 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: and I realized in that dream, like there was a 597 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: path being made for me. I thought I saw a 598 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: path through this forest that I didn't know where I 599 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 5: was going, but I kept walking that path and and 600 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: it was very visceral to me. And I feel like 601 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 5: that's that's the moment, like whether it being like listen, 602 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 5: I've had I've made luckily, I'm really happily married now, 603 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: but I made you know, my second marriage was a 604 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: disaster and like you know, took me down like this 605 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: whole thing. And there's no no offense to him, but 606 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 5: it was more, you know, it was both a two things. 607 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 5: But I think that, like I, you know, what you 608 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 5: got to do is trust youre gout. I've been in 609 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 5: relationships like that, with relationship my entire life, and each 610 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 5: one was worse every time I got into it. And 611 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 5: I didn't learn my lesson, So I don't think until 612 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 5: you finally learn your lesson about like where you need 613 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 5: to be or what's like not right for you, because 614 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 5: this isn't life about like figuring out like what's not 615 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: right for you. I feel like life, you know, you 616 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: kind of know that's not good for me, that I 617 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 5: know is not good for me, Like that's good for me. 618 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: So I think for me, it was about what I'm 619 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: doing now with covered by Crystos is like everything I've learned, 620 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 5: good and bad in my entire life has led me 621 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: to this point. So I think that's the same thing 622 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: about one's own personal story. Like you know, you may 623 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 5: not be getting what you're getting right now, but you're 624 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: getting it and you're getting another way. 625 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 4: Maybe you're healthy, like you know, and that's what you 626 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: need to be right now. 627 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, no, I hear you. 628 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: Where it's about focusing on it will come and the 629 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: greater plan is is already being work done and we 630 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: don't know. 631 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah you know, and that's the. 632 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 5: Excitement about it. So it's gonna it's gonna happen to you. 633 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 5: So I talk to people like I've been doing. I've 634 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 5: seen thousands of folks on my book touring, Like some 635 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: of them are like in their early twenties and like 636 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 5: our mid twenties. They just got laid off my job, 637 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: and like they're really fearful about the future. And you know, 638 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: I there are people like always kind of say these 639 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: things like, oh, it's going to be okay, it will 640 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: be okay. 641 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: So what I said to that was like, no, it 642 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: is okay. 643 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 5: Where where you are right now is okay where you 644 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: should be, and just let just don't sit back and 645 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: like go like, oh, please, someone save my life. Like 646 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: you don't do some things that you know you may 647 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: not think is is comfortable. Like I always tell people 648 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: if you're if you're like worrying about yourself too much 649 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 5: or feeling a little bit too egoistic egotistical, like just 650 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 5: call somebody up and talk to them and just ask 651 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 5: them about their life and get out of your own head. 652 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah your way. Well that's that's the thing. 653 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: Like whenever I have a tough you know I'm going 654 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: through something tough, I remember I do this sometimes where 655 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm at therapy, there's a there's a prayer wall, and 656 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: I will look at other people's prayers and I'm like man, 657 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: like I like, I don't have someone dying from cancer 658 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: or I am not struggling from this or that, and 659 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: it's like you can kind of put things into perspective too, 660 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: and taking yourself outside of your own struggles to go 661 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: there are other people around you struggling, and then how 662 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: can I how can I help? And you know, whenever 663 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: I get to the place my therapist, I was like, 664 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: go surf, go do something that you know puts you 665 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: out of your own Oh poor me. Kind of not 666 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: that our problems aren't valid, it's just there are so 667 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: many people out there that are going through, you know, 668 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: things that are that are really hard, and it kind 669 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: of opens your eyes to things. 670 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my and I totally and I had this. 671 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: You know, it's kind of a spiritual box I have, 672 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 5: and like every year I'll put in like my biggest 673 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 5: fears in the box to kind of let them go, 674 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, or like I will look 675 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: at them and like it's funny, like I and when 676 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 5: you look at it a year afterwards, the things you 677 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: were worried about a year are like, oh, yeah, you. 678 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: Kidding me, That's why I was worried about year ago. 679 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 5: And so my dad died in my you know, he 680 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: you know, was fifty nine when he dies, so he 681 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 5: was very young, and like, you know, it was fire 682 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 5: for our whole family, and like he died penniless. I 683 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 5: was like supporting my family at age twenty, and you know, 684 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: it was It's always been a part of like my 685 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 5: being like am I gonna end alo with my dad? 686 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 5: Will I be penans at the end? And like am 687 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: I gonna? Because I'm a lot like him? And so 688 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 5: you know, in that fear and that sort of box, 689 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 5: I put things like, you know, I'm afraid I'm gonna 690 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 5: be broke, you know once and I look at it 691 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 5: every year. I'm like, really, Cristos, like you know, so 692 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: that you know, it almost happened to me because I 693 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 5: wasn't really being I wasn't being really mindful about my life. 694 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: I had been out of control and so you know 695 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: that's what that's what I like to do. 696 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, amazing. So what's the when people read your book? 697 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: If you got to tell them just one thing to 698 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: take from the book, Yeah, what would you tell them? 699 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 5: I would say, life gets lifey and you got to 700 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 5: figure out what when these situations pop up, you know, 701 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 5: what to potentially do when it happens, and some of 702 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: it is like do nothing until to like really think 703 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: about it, so that I mean like I would just 704 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: say life gets lifely and just have a little bit 705 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: of a laugh. Because the book is funny, I find 706 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: I think, I hope so and it's kind of like, 707 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 5: you know, if there's some people like, you know, the 708 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 5: whole Hollywood interest in your story blah blah blah. The 709 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: book is kind of like my big frat, my big 710 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 5: fat Greek wedding meets less than zero, you know, because 711 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: there's a lot of drama on Greek, you know, so 712 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 5: I feel like dramatic moments. There is one of me. 713 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 5: The most dramatic moment of the book is I was 714 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 5: in my second marriage and the throes of my addiction, 715 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: and my husband was starting to leave our you know, 716 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: as literally, you guys, this is such a hollowey thing. 717 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 5: I was living at the top of the holland looking 718 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: at all of la like literally the top in my 719 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 5: huge home, you know, hookers and strippers and coke, and 720 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 5: I mean literally that the stupidest thing of all time. 721 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 5: We have a huge fight and he wants to he 722 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 5: you know, wants to leave, and so you know, in 723 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 5: typical Greek fashion, I throw myself this way on the 724 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 5: driveway with my body and he has the car like 725 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 5: revving it to run over me to basically like because 726 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 5: I'm saying him, just kill me, because I can't deal 727 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: with this anymore. And I can tell this as a joke. 728 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 5: That's a joke now as a funny story. And I 729 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: remember like he was revving it like this is the end. 730 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 5: I'm finally can be released from all the pain I'm feeling. 731 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: And he didn't do it. 732 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: And so when we're doing this movie, thing is I'm 733 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: actually you'll see this in a drone and you'll see 734 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: me look right in the camera and be like you're 735 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 5: probably wondering how I got here. And so the whole 736 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: story is back is like that whole story of like 737 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 5: starting I was a four year old kid in Detroit, 738 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 5: but like, you know, realizing that you can come back 739 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 5: from even that moment where you want you want a 740 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: car to run you over, Yeah, make that happen. 741 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: So oh, I love a good old Michigan comeback story. 742 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: You know. 743 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: I just like, I mean, how proud of you? Got 744 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: a ross on the met gallic carpet making that happen. 745 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I love it. 746 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: I mean I think about, you know, my moment being 747 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: in the bushes, I'm like, how did I get here 748 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: in the bushes, you know, hiding from a from this person? 749 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 2: You know. So it's it's we all have a come back. 750 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: We all have come back story. 751 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 5: I think we were from Detroit because Detroita we have 752 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: great We think about it like it was that you 753 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: know back in Detroit. Ell you may not know, like 754 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 5: back in when you're your young Jedi, but like back 755 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 5: in the eighties, you didn't stop for a red light 756 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 5: in Detroit if you were downtown the city, you didn't stop. 757 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 5: You had to roll through it, so you wouldn't get like, 758 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 5: you know, mug you know, in your car. And so 759 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 5: now it's huge, like you know, it's I love going 760 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 5: back there so much. 761 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: It's so great. 762 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 5: And I think, and I talk about in the book, 763 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 5: like I you know, my comeback, my first trunk show 764 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: after I was kind of getting back to my feet, 765 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: wasn't Detroit at the Foundation Hotel, And so that city 766 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 5: has been linked to like my sort of like reblossoming 767 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 5: as a person, as a business. 768 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I love that. Well, I love that 769 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: you still have loved for Michigan. 770 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: I always get sad when people leave and saying bad 771 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: things about it, like Madonna. 772 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 4: Like, I'm sure she's gone back a lot. 773 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, that's my girl. You know my my 774 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 5: first gay bar was her first gay bar in Michigan's. 775 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: You ever go to Menjo's. 776 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 4: No, Oh, you were good. You're a good Westside girl. 777 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 4: That's fine. 778 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: I just didn't go out. 779 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 4: But she something there near you actually, you know that right? 780 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: Well, Madonna went to my high school. But then she 781 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: said that she said some bad things about Rochester and 782 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, like it hurt my heart, hurt 783 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 2: my Michigan heart. But maybe, you know, maybe they caught 784 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: her the interview, caught her on a bad day. I 785 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: don't know, but it's all good. Uh all right, well, 786 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on. Everyone, go get 787 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: covet the comeback. Thank you so so so much. 788 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 4: All right, great, thank you guys, thank you guys. 789 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: Ever, thank you, thank you. 790 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: Pleasure. 791 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: Bye bye bye