1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ. Buck 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: with you Buck? How you doing man, Man? I'm good. DJ. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 3: Like this is funny because it's it's a great week 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: because you got mini camps, but then it's a sad 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: week because it's about six weeks of nothing that's gonna 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: go on in the NFL when it comes to real 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: football activity. So that means from a content standpoint, this 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: is when we come up with our lists as we're 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: gone with hot or not all this other stuff. So 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: now looking forward to that part of the podcast season, 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: but I am excited about the stuff that's on the 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: horizon when it comes. 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: To this week. 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of I'll tell you what time it is. 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I'll show you what time of year it is. Book, 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: it's this time of year, baby, it's going Go get 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: your preview magazines, get get get out by the pool, 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: the beach, wherever you want to go and get some 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: sun and and kind of read up on what's going 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: on in the in the landscape of things. Although I 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: almost think these college magazines almost become outdated because even 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, if they released these things in May. There's 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: still a little movement here. I get some changes around 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: college football. 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: Look, it never stops. I mean it's kind of crazy, 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: but it never stops. The portal is always popping. You 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: got people coming and going. You'll see some things happen 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: right before everyone gets in the camp. So how can 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: you even accurately predict who's going to be where and 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: what when you really don't know what that final ross 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: is going to look like? 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: We are going to get to some of the newsy 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: items here. There was some some stuff that went down. 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: I want to start thoughts. Let's kick it off here. 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: It's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: with Sabby Hot Cloud Storage. I don't know if this 38 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: was the hot topic of the last month, maybe the 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: warm topic, because I think there is some Rogers fatigue, 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: but as we all kind of anticipated and expected, it 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: finally gets done there with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So we 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: haven't been together since that went down. What are your 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on that one? 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm so conflicted right because I have Aaron 45 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: Rod just fatigue because I feel like for the past 46 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: two three years we've talked about him being kind of 47 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: like a forced multiplier. Like he's a four time MVP, 48 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: a super Bowl champion, first ballot Hall of Famer, all 49 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: of those things. But you just wonder, at this stage 50 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: of his career, what can he offer a team. And 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: then there's certain teams that you're like, man, I don't 52 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: know with this work, how's this going to fit? And 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh I just have a big question mark. And the 54 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: reason why I have a big question mark is DJ. 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: I just would think that if you're Anon Rogers, if 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: you're going to make this move, even if you have 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: a family situation, commit to the team. Let the team 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: begin this process of kind of putting everything together so 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: that you can kind of build the chemistry and the 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 3: connectivity that you need to get going. I mean, now 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: you have a mini camp for three days, you have 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: a six week thing off, you have training camp, and 63 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: then we're playing. I just don't know if that's enough 64 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: time to build the chemistry and all the things that 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: you need to play really really good football for a 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: team that is Look, man, it's in a tough division 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: and they're in a tough conference when it comes to 68 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: earning a playoff seat. 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels to me though, does this one feel different. 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: This feels different to me than the Jets thing. Whereas 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: I thought the Jets was we are going to create 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: or cater to every single need. We're going to build 73 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers universe with the coaches you like, with 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the players you like, with the system you like. This 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: feels like I'm not saying that the I want to 76 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: use the term the upper hand, but it does feel like, Hey, 77 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: you're kind of coming into who we are and what 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: we are, and it's not like we're going to adjust 79 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: our whole world for you. It is kind of what 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: that felt like. 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that, right, And this is a little 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: different because we all have a tremendous amount of respect 83 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: for Mike Tomlin and Mike Tomlin being able to kind 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: of weather the storms that come along with strong personality players. 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: But how do you established a hierarchy when Aaron Rodgers 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: comes in. I think that is really important. And it's 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: not just a hierarchy between ay Man, I'm the head coach, 88 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: you're the quarterback. 89 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run my program. 90 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: You're gonna comply, but it's also, hey, we're not running 91 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: this offense that you've always run. Arthur Smith has been here, 92 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: second year, Arthur Smith being here. We have a vision 93 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: for how we want this offense to run. Certainly, we'll 94 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: tweak it and bend around some of your talents, but 95 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: this is the way that we want to play and 96 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: the way that we want to play confidence, the way 97 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: that we play defense, the compliments, the way that our 98 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: formula and our blueprint for winning. Do we believe that 99 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: all of those things can hold true when the storm 100 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: hits somewhere in the season. Can they stay true too? 101 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm just gonna be the player. I'm gonna 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: be the guy that fits into the team, and I'm 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: not gonna make it about like me. 104 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: I just want to win. 105 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: I want to win at the highest level, and I'm 106 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: winning to kind of sacrifice some of my own game 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: to make sure that the team's successful. 108 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that Tomlin's status and resume will lead 109 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: to a little different attitude or behavior there on? 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: Rogers partner. Maybe. 111 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: Look, well, let's talk about the last two coaches that 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: he had, right, So, he had Robert Solid with the 113 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: Jets and he had Matt Lafleur with the Green Bay Package. 114 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: Both were unproven when they had those jobs, and he 115 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: was the guy that certainly had more clout than them. 116 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: This is different because this would be Look, man, I 117 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: can't even say the first quote because Mike McCarthy won 118 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: with him, But he has to walk into the building 119 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: respecting Mike Tomlin because Mike Tomlin is kind of like 120 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: an institution when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steels in 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: what he's been able to do. Yeah, so it might 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: be a little different in terms of the respect factor 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: and maybe the way that Mike Tomlin communicates because we've 124 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: seen him take on these kinds of personalities going all 125 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: the way back whatever Mike Vick, like he dealt with 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger, so he's dealt with different types. Maybe the 127 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: conversation will be very direct from Mike Tomlin in terms 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: of what he respects without it being kind of like 129 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: a peeing contest, but one where hey, look, here's what 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: I expect from you, Here's what you can expect from me. 131 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: Here's how we operate with the Steelers. 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: If you do these things. 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: They would never have a problem and I will always 134 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 3: have you back in public as long as you are 135 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: complicit with the things that we've talked about. 136 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was also thinking from a performance standpoint, you know, Okay, gosh, 137 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: he's another year older. Didn't really do anything with him 138 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: during the off season, like what can we expect from 139 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: him performance wise? But he's also, you know, another year 140 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: removed from the Achilles. So if you look at the 141 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: drop off that we saw with Kirk Cousins after his 142 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: injury and what we saw last year, and then the 143 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: hope you know for others being like, oh gosh, you know, 144 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Cousins can't be that bad, like he'll he'll be better 145 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: this year. Another year removed. Well, if we take that 146 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: same thought process towards Aaron Rodgers, like maybe Aaron Rodgers 147 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: has got you know, he finished up fine, he played 148 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: fine the last for the season. If he's able to 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: come back, you know, even healthier and fresher, maybe even 150 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: at his age, you see a little bit. They don't 151 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: need a huge, huge year, but a bounce back a 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit better version of what we 153 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: saw last year. I think that's that's entirely possible. 154 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: That is totally possible. 155 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: And look, I can say a lot of things about 156 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, and I felt like he was a descending player, 157 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: but last year he threw for over thirty eight hundred yards. 158 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: He had eleven intercessions, but he almost had thirty touchdowns. 159 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: He can be productive in an offense that is really 160 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: built around the things that he does well while also 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: alleviating some of the pressure on him. I would say 162 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: that Arthur Smith is going to continue to have a 163 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: commitment to the running game, and if they build it right, 164 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: maybe they can use Aaron Rodgers his knowledge, his experience, 165 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: his expertise in terms of getting the team in the 166 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: right play to even take that to another level, not 167 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: only with the running game. 168 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: But with the passing game. 169 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: But look, it's a give and take, it's a yin 170 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: and yan in terms of how they're going to do this, 171 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: because let's be honest, Aaron Rodgers has never played in 172 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: this type offense. He's kind of been in his own 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: offense for the last fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years. Now He's 174 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: going to have to learn or adjust a little bit 175 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: to what another team does. That's different, but it might 176 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: be invigorating for an older player looking for another challenge, 177 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: because the only reason Aaron Rodgers comes back is because 178 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: he wants to be challenged in some capacity. Maybe this 179 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: will give him a chance to really challenge himself and 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: maybe that brings out the best in him. 181 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish it up on this last thing here. 182 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: So when you look at their skill players that they 183 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: have there and they bring in in the backfield, they 184 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: bring in Caleb Johnson, Najia Harris has gone, so they 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: draft Caleb Johnson a third round to pair him up 186 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: with Jalen Warren. They bring over Kenneth Gainwell, kind of 187 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: an under the radar move, someone who catches the BA 188 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. When you're looking at their whiteouts, 189 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: You've got dk You've got Robert Woods who they brought in. 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: You've got Calvin Austin who's the speed guy. You've got 191 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Rome and Wilson, who I know they're hopeful to get 192 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: something out of this year after kind of a lost 193 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: rookie season. You've got Scronic who's you know, a physical, 194 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: tough guy. It's Scottie Miller. And then you look at 195 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: the tight ends. You got Friarmouth. You got Darnell Washington 196 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: in that group there. So if I was going to 197 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: ask you who ends up in the Rogers trust tree, 198 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: because we know he has his guys that that he 199 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: kind of attaches to and trusts, and that's where the 200 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: football can go. Because I was looking at that list, 201 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: there was one name who kind of stood out to 202 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: me who might end up having a sneaky good year. 203 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: Who's that name? 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: Robert Woods ding Ding ding ding Ding Does that kind 205 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: of feel like a Rogers receiver. 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: It does only because he's experienced enough, he's playing. 207 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: Going to be where he's supposed to be in the 208 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: same way. 209 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: And also he has an even killed personality. 210 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: And when you think about the ones who really registered 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: will with Aaron Rodgers has been the guys that are 212 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: pretty even in terms of did demeanor, how they go 213 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: about their game, all of those things. DK Metcalf can 214 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: be a little emotional and so if the boy isn't 215 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: going his way, I can see him kind of going 216 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: up and down emotionally. Whereas Robert Woods to me is 217 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: the consummate professional, going all the way back to his 218 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: time with the Rams. I mean, he is a steady 219 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: eddy pro and that'll work. And I also think Roger 220 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: will fall in love with the tight end because fried 221 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: Mouths can make plays, he can get it done in 222 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: key moments. They have a very balanced ball control offense 223 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: with DK Metcalf being able to kind of take the 224 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: top off of it. I'm curious to see how Arthur 225 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Smith really does it, because remember when Arthur Smith has 226 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: been at his best, and I'm gonna use Ryan Tannehill 227 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: to get to the point on Aaron Rodgers. 228 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: When Ryan Tannehill was. 229 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: The NFL Comeback Player of the Year under the tutelage 230 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: of Arthur Smith, it was about an offense that really 231 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: relied on yack yards have to catch was big. You 232 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: remember John news Smith had significant numbers. AJ Brown had 233 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: big numbers. This may be an offense that relies a 234 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: little more on the catch and run concept part of 235 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: their playbook, where they get the ball into playmaker's hands 236 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: and let them kind of go to work. That might 237 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: be the way that they go about it, with an 238 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: occasional deep shot to DK down the field. But I 239 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: think this might be a little more connect the dots 240 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: on offense which plays to Aaron Rodgers' strengths as an efficient, 241 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: high completion percentage passer from the pocket. 242 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt the uh the eyes will be on them, 243 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: that's for sure. And we'll start right there from the 244 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: jump week one. So the schedule makers knew what was 245 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: what was going to grab some attention. I think they 246 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: might have known. 247 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Maybe this. 248 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: Just I'm not going to say that I'm not a 249 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist, but I am going to say that maybe 250 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: in major sports leagues. 251 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: That maybe they kind of know us on the horizon. 252 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: We talk about Pittsburgh playing the Jets, Cooper flag somehow 253 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: finding his way to the Dallas Mavericks. 254 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably how that all works out. Sometimes sometimes the 255 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: universe just brings about gifts. 256 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know who have you looked to 257 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: see who the Steelers play? Week two, no Seattle, So 258 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: you get the DK Metcalf game right after the Aaron 259 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers game. So a lot of your emotions of a 260 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: lot of emotion, a lot of storylines there. That was 261 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to you by 262 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: with Sabbi Hot Cloud storage, store more and do more 263 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: with your data. Try them for free at withsaby dot com. 264 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: All right, buck, next topic here real quick, and some 265 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: of it's still related to the Steelers. 266 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: Here, TJ. 267 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Watt, no Shows, Terry McLaurin, Trey Hendrickson. How much do 268 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: you read into it when you get guys who are 269 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: looking for deals and they don't show up to these 270 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: mini camps here. 271 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: I would say, look, man, Hendrickson to me is not 272 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: the surprised in terms of not showing up because they've 273 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: been so far apart. It has been very acrimonious in 274 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: terms of disnegotiation between a player who wants his deal 275 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: Sweeden and a team. 276 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: Who is very adamant about. 277 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: We'll get to it when we get to We just 278 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: been a bunch money on these playmakers, like we need 279 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: to make sure we're good to go with the budget 280 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: before we go and get the pass rusher. So I'm 281 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 3: not surprised on the trade Henderson thing, TJ. 282 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: Watt thing. 283 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: I would believe that they would all operate more in 284 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: good faith on both ends. And Man, you may show 285 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: up and not do anything, but typically you've been the 286 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: ultimate team guy. 287 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: This team tends to reward their homegrown stars. I'm surprised 288 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: that has been more of a. 289 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: Story than Trade Henderson because I didn't expect Trade Henderson 290 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: to get any movement on this contract deal. I think 291 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: they're pretty dug in Cincinnati is when it comes to 292 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: the deal they want to do. 293 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, for those that were wondering, if you just look 294 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: at what TJ. Watt's done over the last few years. 295 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Here we go last year eleven and a half sacks, 296 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: twenty three nineteen sacks only ten games, and twenty two 297 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: with five and a half but twenty one twenty two 298 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. So when you think about performance, production, character, 299 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, locker room, all that stuff, like to me 300 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: that one, I wouldn't spend a whole lot of time 301 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: worrying about it. And the Steelers, I think I would 302 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: say they view him as a statue type player. I 303 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: think they'll end up figuring that out and take care 304 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: of him, so I wouldn't spend too much time worrying 305 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: about that. I think that'll find its way to get done. 306 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: One other name we didn't mention Mishaan Slater. His deal 307 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: is not done yet. I have not seen as a 308 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: recording as I think he showed up. I'm not sure, 309 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: but I think he showed up to their mini camp. 310 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: But that'll be an eye. Have an eye on that 311 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: one as well, see if they can get that contract done. 312 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: All right, Buck, Let's take quick break, come back, a 313 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: couple more things to hit right after this, all right, Buck, 314 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: As we continue to kind of look around some stuff 315 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: that's gone down since we were last together. I want 316 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: to hit on two of them here. Let's look at 317 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: at first of all, Jay R Alexander. 318 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: He's gone. 319 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: They could not figure out a way to make a 320 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: trade work because of eating money, and it gets kind 321 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: of complicated. Where do you come down on it when 322 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: you got a twenty eight year old corner who's been 323 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: a little bit banged up. Good player, but it's kind 324 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: of to me it personally, it feels like this is 325 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: a prove it, one year incentive laden deal situation for 326 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: whoever goes after him. 327 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, DJ. 328 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: I feel like Mark Murphy was very transparent in terms 329 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: of outlining the Packers fieldings towards Jerry Alexander. 330 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: They loved what he was as a player. 331 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: He's a two time All Pro, but DJ, in his 332 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: last sixty eight games, he's only played thirty four of them, 333 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean he has in the last two years, he 334 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: played in seven regular season games apiece. He was the 335 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: highest paid corner when he signed his extension four year, 336 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: eighty four million dollars, and they lately haven't got enough 337 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: bang for their buck. And he is a really good 338 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: player and all of those things. But I think the 339 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: other thing that people won't talk about is there's some 340 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: emotional maturity things that popped up during this time where 341 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: you could just see it's kind of annoying to Matt Lafleur, 342 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: Like when he ran out for the coin toss. I 343 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: think down in Carolina, he jumped in the mix and 344 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: he wasn't assigned to be a captain, then got involved 345 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: and kind of did his thing. They're just some things 346 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: that just having been in that organization as a player man, 347 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: those things are not necessarily tolerated. So I am not 348 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: surprised to see didn't move on. But he's still a 349 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: really good player. And what you hope is you're a 350 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: team that has the right medical staff and the training 351 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: staff to put him in his best Well he can 352 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: suit up all seventeen games, because when he suits up, 353 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: he's as good as anybody on the island. Of late though, 354 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: it's just been a hard time getting him to suit 355 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: up consistently. 356 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he plays, he schemed diverse, and he's really talented. 357 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: You can use him in any way you want to 358 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: use him. He's got really good eyes, he's got instincts. 359 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: When fully healthy, he can run and carry, so he 360 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: is a really good player. I would imagine to me, 361 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: that's a you know, that's a playoff team. That's a 362 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: team that's chasing something, that's looking to make a little 363 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: bit of an aggressive move there. I'm curious to see 364 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: where he ultimately lands and where he ends up. But 365 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: you're always going to get opportunities at a corner, even 366 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: when you've you know, had some durability issues talent wise' 367 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: that's worth the risk there. So we'll see what happens 368 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: with him, all right. One other thing I wanted to 369 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: hit you on, Buck, because there was, you know, a 370 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: lot of stuff going down, a lot of stuff flying 371 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: around here. One is not injury related or contract related. 372 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say I'm talk out of both sides 373 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: of my mouth because I've said in the past, I 374 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: don't really read into anything that you hear during this 375 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: time of year. 376 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 2: It's a lot of fluff pieces. You don't know. 377 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: If something good is happening on defense, then maybe the 378 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: offense stinks. If something good has happened on offense, maybe 379 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: the defense stinks. So there's always good news and bad 380 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: news based off of that. But looking at this one, 381 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: to me, I just like the fact that the vibes 382 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of Drake May coming out of New 383 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: England and the positivity that you're here and there is 384 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: he's kind of picking things up here, because that is 385 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: not a real simple offense there with Josh McDaniels, and 386 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: I thought there was I thought there's going to be 387 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: some growing pains there. And I love Drake May's ability 388 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be really, really good. 389 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: But to me, I thought, hey, be patient here, this 390 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: might take a minute for this all to come together. 391 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: But so far, man, it's been really positive. 392 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really positive. And look, the move that 393 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: they made is a move. 394 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: It's funny because I remember Drake May when we talked 395 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: and we heard him, he always liking himself to Josh Allen, 396 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: and the Patriots, in my mind, were very intentional about 397 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: pairing Drake May with Stefan Diggs because Stefan Diggs worked 398 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: wonders for Josh Allen in terms of giving him that consistent, 399 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: reliable playmaker on the perimeter as he evolved and grew. 400 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Into being an MVP caliber player. 401 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: Well, Stefan Diggs is going to occupy a similar role 402 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: in New England for Drake May where they're counting on 403 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: their number one receiver to be the guy that can 404 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: consistently get open, to be this security blanket for Drake May. 405 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: Now, over the last couple of weeks, we have some. 406 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: Stuff off the field that had popped up on that 407 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel handled it, addressed it, and what he said 408 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: in his about Diggs in terms of like where he's 409 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: at and what they expect from him on the field. 410 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: You love those things, but it was really this offseason 411 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: was about putting Drake May in a position where you're 412 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: surrounded by enough firepower on the perimeter and protected to 413 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: be able to display the talent that he displayed at 414 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: North Carolina. It won't be perfect, but it certainly should 415 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: be much better than it was his rookie season. 416 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've done all the draft recap stuff, so I 417 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: don't want to go back through everything. But if this 418 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: team ends up being let's say, you know, this year 419 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: they can get close to five hundred, which would I 420 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: think would be a huge success, and the following year 421 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: they're a playoff team, which I think is all possible, 422 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: we could be looking back a handful of years from now, 423 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: and if I told you, like five years from now, 424 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: four years from now, you look back and Will Campbell's 425 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, a steady, reliable, you know, maybe gets into 426 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. Left tackle Kyle Williams is a productive, 427 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, seventy five eighty catch guy at receiver. Even 428 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. Jared Wilson establishes himself 429 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: as as a top ten ish center. Trey Van Henderson 430 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: is one of the top five to eight running backs 431 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL with his diverse skill set. Like we 432 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: always have these these teams that you know, make turnarounds 433 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: and make runs, and we can always point back to 434 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: one draft, even though Drake is the quarterback and the 435 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: most important piece. I think this draft they just had 436 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: might be the one that makes them, you know, a 437 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: playoff team here going forward. 438 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they look not only I would say this offseason. 439 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: I would say not only what they did in the draft, 440 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: because you outline exactly what they did in the draft, 441 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: but the players that they brought over in free agency, 442 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: getting the right kind of guys, the kind of guys 443 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: that kind of fit the brand, the blue collar personality 444 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: of their coach, Mike Brabel. They have a lot of 445 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: those guys from Robertsplane to getting Harold Landry to Williams 446 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: coming over, Colin Davis, like. 447 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: On and on and on. They have a veteran laden. 448 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: Team that not only brings playing ability, but they bring 449 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: some leadership qualities. There were need for a team that 450 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: is learning or that is going to need to learn 451 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: how to win. 452 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, this team is well positioned. 453 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they're gonna close the gap and 454 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: snatch the division from the Bills, but I do believe, 455 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: given Mike Able's success with the Bills, that he's gonna 456 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: put a target on their back and they're going to 457 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: be a lot closer than many people think towards being 458 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: a playoff team and a team that eventually can take 459 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: the title back away from the Buffalo Bills. 460 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how it all 461 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: comes together. 462 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: There's a lot of new pieces, and again I was 463 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: going to say, let's just be patient, let's let this 464 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: thing kind of gel together here. But I love what 465 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots have done, as you mentioned, not just in 466 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: the draft, but in the in freegency as well, Which 467 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: gets me to my final thing for today. I'm gonna 468 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: give I'm gonna give you three teams if I you know, 469 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: back in the day, we used to be a little 470 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: bit more liberal in terms of how we could go 471 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: out to training camps. Remember you just be like, hey, 472 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: these are these are eight to ten camps. I want 473 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: to get a film go on. Not like that anymore, 474 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: but so the but if I if they could, if 475 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: I could, if I could recommend three, Like if I 476 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: could just put hey, I want to go see these 477 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: three camps once things get going. These are the three 478 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you that I want to go see, and 479 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: then I want to get you to the three that 480 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: you go see. I want to go first of all, 481 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: the team we just talked about in New England. I 482 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: want to see Greg in this offense. I want to 483 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: see all these new pieces. I want to see Travon Henderson. 484 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I want to see this whole thing come together. That's 485 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: number one, Number two, that's same quarterback class. I want 486 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: to go see Caleb Williams. I want to see how 487 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: that Ben Jonson relationship is forming. I want to see 488 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: that new offensive line, what they look like, how they're 489 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: yelling together. I mean Colston Lovelin, I think is going 490 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: to be a fascinating piece there. So that would be 491 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: the second one. That i'd want to go see. And 492 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: then thirdly, and again you'll see the theme here. I'm 493 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of I'm looking at some quarterbacks and they all 494 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: happen to be in the same draft class. I want 495 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: to see Minnesota in that same division. I want to see, man, 496 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: they had a lot of success with Sam Donald, but 497 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: they decided that's not good enough and JJ McCarthy can 498 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: take us to another level. What does that look like? 499 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: They're in Minnesota. So those would be the three that 500 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: I would cherry pick that i'd want to go see 501 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: in training camp. 502 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: How about you? 503 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: I like and the quarterback is a theme where everyone 504 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: wants to chase. So for me, I want to go 505 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: to Washington. I want to see if the buzz is real. 506 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: I want to see if Jayden James is ready to 507 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 3: take the next step or if he's going to fall 508 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: back with a sophomore slump. Everything that I'm reading, everything 509 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 3: that I'm seeing, Man, the Washington commanders are ready to 510 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: go and they're ready to go compete at the highest 511 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: level when it comes to what they've been able to do. 512 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: So I want to see him and how he's progressing. 513 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: I also want to make my way out to Seattle 514 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: because I'm so intrigued by what the Sam Donald experience 515 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 3: is going to produce in the Pacific Northwest. The Seattle 516 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: Seahawks made a very intentional move to move on from 517 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: Geno Smith to give Sam Donald an opportunity to play 518 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: on Clinton Kobiac. They kind of flip the wide receiver 519 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: room and all those things, a lot of moving pieces. 520 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: What does this look like and how does it go? 521 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: And then DJ, I can't go on a trip and 522 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 3: not have a Shader Sanders sighting. 523 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: I put my eyes on the dog pround. I gotta go, 524 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: and I have to see one. 525 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: Just for my own selfish reasons as a coach, I 526 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: just want to see how do you get four quarterbacks 527 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: reps practice to be able to fully evaluate that. 528 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: That'll help from a personal standpoint. 529 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: But two, I kind of want to see what this 530 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: looks like because it's one thing to hit the reports 531 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: to see the clips. It's another thing to see it 532 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: all play out. How are the Cleveland Browns going to 533 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: pull this off? Joe Flacco, Kenny pick At, Dylan Gabriel, 534 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: and Shader Sanders. We typically root for chaos. This will 535 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: be as chaotic at training camp as I can imagine 536 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: when it comes to evaluating a quarterback and picking a 537 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 3: quarterback and like a three week. 538 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: Run, no doubt. 539 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm sure this will get clipped off. 540 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: So if it does, right down below, let us know 541 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: what training camps must see. I'd be curious to see 542 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: if if we're on the right track, if you think 543 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: there's other ones that would be more appealing and more 544 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: interest thing, so let us know on that front, Buck, 545 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: this was this was fun to get back together. 546 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: Man. 547 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: It's enjoy every little morsel of news we get right 548 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: now because we are getting ready the dry season. But 549 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: that's why I love That's why I love our format 550 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: in our pod because we don't we aren't beholden to 551 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: just what's the latest news in the NFL. This is 552 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: a Newsy episode, but we've been doing a bunch of 553 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: interviews that fascinate us. We've got some great guests on 554 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: the horizon. You know, we're going to bring back our 555 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: buddy Tom Crean, who I think is outstanding again. Another 556 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: basketball connection here, but obviously his brothers in law. Brother 557 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: in law's Jim and John Harbaugh. It's a football family. 558 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: So I have a great conversation with him. We are 559 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: going to get our pal John Gordon on, who is 560 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: literally the coach of the coaches, I mean from from 561 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Sean McVay all the way through. I mean, he's got 562 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: tons of guys that he's influencing in all different sports. 563 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: So we'll have him on. We're working on getting our 564 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: buddy Jim Naggy, who just built out a full personnel 565 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: department at Oklahoma. I mean he got he hired our 566 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: bunch of our friends. I don't know if you saw. 567 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Drew Hill was brought is in there as well, who's 568 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: been had a lot of experience there at Oklahoma. So 569 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: they've got a great personnel department that they've built there. 570 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: So decided to bring Jim on and discuss how the 571 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: landscape has changed. We got that new ruling that came 572 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: down on kind of the financial situation moving forward for 573 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: college football. So again, lots of fun conversations we're going 574 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: to have. We get a chance to kind of spread 575 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: out a little bit. We don't have to just stay 576 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: in our lane, so to speak. 577 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it should be fun and I'm looking forward 578 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: to these conversations because, as you know, we both are 579 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: avid readers, lifelong learners and just the ability to talk 580 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: to so many different people in different walks of life 581 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: to see if we can take any of those nuggets 582 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: that have helped them help us be even better in 583 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: what we do. 584 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Then no doubt. All right, that's gonna do it for 585 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: us today. I hope you guys have enjoyed it. I 586 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying your off season as the NFL is 587 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: wrapping up this mini camp week here, and we'll have 588 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: a little more going on here before it goes completely dark, 589 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: but we'll have you covered here. We'll at least have 590 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: some interesting conversations. I can promise you that we'll keep 591 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: the bar low and we'll exceed it. We'll see you 592 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: next time right here on movie sticks.