WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Will The Cowboys Spend Big? 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.560 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:15.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.799 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:31.000 Star in Frisco. Elliott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:37.159 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones and an early Happy New 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.200 Year everybody. It is Talking Cowboys on New Year's Eve, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:48.200 two thousand nineteen. I am Bill Jones with Brian brought 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.360 us in the house. Hello, mister Draft Show Hello, Hello, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.960 how are we doing? Guys? Rob Phillips in the house. Hello. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.920 Miss You're gonna talk about your trip yesterday. You want 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.520 to save it? Save it? Well, save it? Hello, mister Aggie. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:06.800 Rob Phillips, Hello, Hello, and mister Graybeard. Mickey Spagnola is 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.760 still not shaving. No, absolutely not. It's only March, that's right, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.240 That's right. I mean you're keeping it so New Year's Eve, huh. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.480 It is New Year's like the Chinese calendar or whatever 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.800 that is. It's the NFL. New Year's starts tomorrow, you 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.160 know that. Mickey Spagnola. And this is I this is 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:32.360 sort of like amateur hour. This this uh, legal tampering period. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.360 It's amateur hour and the real stuff is tomorrow. You know. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.280 That's why I look at I look at it like 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.920 the real New Year's Eve when you're when you're a drinker, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.160 it's amateur on New Year's Eve. You don't go out. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.080 You don't drink on New Year's Eve if you're a 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:52.200 real drinker. Yeah, Why there's anything going on out there? Bill? 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:58.000 A few things going on? What's caught your eyes so far? Um? 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.400 How much money other teams are about to spend starting 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.680 Wednesday's right? But again, I mean we do this every year, right, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.239 Why it's amateur hour? Why aren't the cowboys doing more? 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.800 Who says they're not looking at getting things done? You 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.919 know we're not. You know, we don't know what they're 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.480 trying to do right now, but we do know they 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.320 have a cap on how much money they want to spend. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.040 They always do that. But because say they're not going 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.760 to do anything. Um, I wouldn't go that far. No, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:31.680 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm amazed, Well, not really amazed. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.120 I'm the way the safeties fell. I didn't think the 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.720 safeties would fall this way, as far as the order 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.160 than which they went in. So the fact that the 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:49.119 one safety that I guess I want is still available 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.639 and when the music stops, I don't know if he's 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.720 going to have a chair. And so I'm okay with that, 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.720 you know, and I'm hopeful and if you know, if 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.679 that's the case, then that this it gives them a 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.120 chance now whether they go that direction or not. As 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.480 a whole other thing, I know, talk to some folks that, 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.799 you know, the money was always going to be a 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.840 consideration there. So if the money is the right thing 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.680 for them, then maybe they can go that route and 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.840 add a player for what they thought they were going 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.760 to be able to pay him. So I see that 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.680 as a real positive right now. That's the thing I'm 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.040 really really focusing on because if you can get that done, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.480 then now it'll allow you to do the other things 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.320 you want to try and do with the defensive end. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.400 But it also allows you to focus on the draft 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:39.280 as well. Seven by my count safeties have been signed. 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:45.760 Ye are agreed to excuse me, contracts, none of which 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.520 named Earl Thomas. Why do you think that is? That's 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.880 what was going to be my next question. I think 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.800 age and injury probably has something to do with that 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:59.040 and the fact that his agent is his agent is 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.800 the same one they just got the deal done in Washington. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.240 I think that he probably saw what was going on, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.240 you know, with the combine. We get there and everybody 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.960 kind of has an idea of what the market might be. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.360 He went with landing Collins first as a push, and 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.760 now is now they're having to play catch up with 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.440 Earl Thomas. So I think that he probably saw where 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.159 this thing was going to go with the other teams. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.120 I think the team you still have to worry about 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.600 is Atlanta, and Atlanta cleared some space again, I'm talking 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.400 about if the Cowboys are interested in the sky. I 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.920 think you have to worry about Atlanta. Atlanta has their 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.039 former You know, Dan Quinn was with him at Seattle. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.000 He knows the player. They cleared some space, so we'll see. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.480 That might be the one team you have to dodge left. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.760 Other than that, you might have a clear run at 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.760 this thing. Man, twenty four hours ago, it seemed like 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.120 a different vibe because when he saw what Collins got 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.200 and then he saw what Tyrn Matthew is going to 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.280 get from Kansas City, It's like, yeah, world, Thomas is 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.040 going to get what he wants. He's gonna get fifteen million. Yeah, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:02.760 and now those guys are fourteen million in a year. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:07.080 he's not getting fourteen million a year. So I understand 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.279 about the aging part. Yeah, but none of these other 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.280 teams didn't sound like they made a run at him. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.240 Now they're probably again they scared. They're probably scared of 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.119 injury history, and they're probably scared of age. So should 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.600 the Cowboys be scared? Nah, not at all, Not at all. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.719 Shouldn't be scared him? Who at all? Because because the 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.080 guy is a veteran player. I think if you get 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.280 him at the price you were able you wanted to 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.719 get him, that he could come in. He could help 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.880 your team defensively, create turnovers. I think he could be 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.719 a leader in the locker room. I think he could 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.040 provide a lot of things. If I'm getting in for 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.880 the money I want and not fifteen million dollars a year, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.320 sign me up. And if it's a two year deal, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.480 sign me up. I have no problem with that for 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.760 a team. If you're telling me, if you're telling me, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.320 I'm trying to have to do this deal for five 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.400 six years, Yeah, he's not a fifteen million dollars year 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.040 a player? Is he an eight million dollars year a player? 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.040 Two years, two years, twenty million dollars guaranteed? Is that? 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.000 Is that what he is? Mickey? Are you? Are you 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.320 not agreeing to that? I would when you mentioned eight million, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.120 I think I would. Okay, look at that? Okay, yeah, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.840 because what would you offer Cole Beasley to come back? 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.839 How many million per year would you pay him to 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.560 come back at thirty years old? So to your point, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.520 but he hasn't had two broken legs in three years. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.279 He's been hurt though too, Yeah, but he hadn't had 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.160 two broken leg the same legs. Are you broken? Yeah, 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.920 I'm just to me, to me the leg When you're 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.960 talking about breaks, that's a different story. That's that's that 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.760 happens in football. Breaks happened. Yeah, if you told me 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.359 he had blown out his achilles. They gave money to 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.360 bury Church after he blew out his achilles. You know what, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.200 what are we scared of here? Let me just throw 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.800 this out there. We're not buried. They didn't give Barry 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.560 it's ten million a year. Yeah, but they but they 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.680 But I'm just saying though they paid for a guy 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.520 that they paid Shawn Lee. Shaun Leeds hurt more than 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.880 anybody in the National Football League. Let's not let's not 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.920 lack like that that we don't have hurt players on 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.560 this team. He's I'm just surprised we haven't heard anything 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.840 about him elsewhere, Like San Francisco they wanted they they're out, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.680 they're out. Let me just throw this out there, and 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.080 this I could be way off. I'm just throwing it 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.800 out there. Do you think teams might just assume he 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.360 wants to come here and we're not gonna let him 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.160 drive up the price against us to try to get 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.200 raised Dallas's offer Das Dallas is not gonna play in 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.080 a bidning war. But yeah, I know that they have 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.160 a number in mind. If they can get their number, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.640 they need to go with Tayshaun Gibson signing with Houston's 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.080 out big play. Yeah, they're done, They're done San Francisco. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.240 Atlanta is a team if you're if you're into the 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.600 Earl Thomas market, Atlanta is a team you're gonna have 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.720 to deal with potentially. I don't know. They're off the 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.720 top of my head. Do they need a safety bad Yeah, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.960 well they have they have They have a situation where 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.000 again their coaching staff is big. You know, they see 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.360 an opportunity to add a veteran player. Right. Second, Gibson 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.200 supposedly has agreed to three years twenty two million with 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.640 the Texans. I don't know the numbers on Gibson. I 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.960 just saw that three years twenty two so that's just 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:23.200 over seven millions, so totally can I get that? Probably not? 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:28.120 And who who's going to give him more? Adrian as Atlanta. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.880 Adrian Amos with Green Bay signed four years thirty seven. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.800 That was a big deal right there for him because 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:39.600 he's a he's a down safety as well as Adrian Amos. Yeah, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.520 nine million, are you? And thank you? Look at the 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.520 first two years of his deal though, two years twenty one. Yeah, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:51.960 with his three interceptions. Landon Collins is at six years 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.880 eighty four million, fourteen million a year, Tyron Matthew three 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.920 years forty two million, fourteen million a year. Eric Berry 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.960 is at thirteen million Yearney. It's just bet on himself 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.559 and went well too. Although I just saw where Collins 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:09.600 the first three years two million, that's real. So see 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.160 what's happening now with these these numbers is that those 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:17.199 are agent inflated numbers, and no one's talking about what 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.560 the guarantees are normally. Sure, you look at the life 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.720 of the contract, because there's no landing Collins is gonna 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.440 make eighty four million in sixty Probably not, and he'll 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.599 get cut after two. Let's focus on our team here. No, 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.640 I'm just saying, though, you gotta be better. That's that's 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.480 These guys that are all getting signed are going to 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.280 be gone in two years, three years. They're gonna be 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.480 the cap casualties in twenty twenty one. Get ready for that. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.720 That's that's generally what happens, right. So do you want 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.719 to play that game? Oh? I want to play. I 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.040 want to play the game of adding a safety. I'm 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.920 not playing the game of adding players for sixteen and 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.000 seventeen million dollars unless their names or Lawrence and people 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.880 like that. I'm with Brian on this, Mick. I mean, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.720 if you're trying to take that next step this season 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.319 and you can get a deal with him that's a 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.360 couple of years, and go for it and get a 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.560 guy that can help you back there, help your help 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.720 your depth, help your takeaways, leadership. Now, what I will 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.679 say is if you just look at the defense, the 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.080 whole defense. To me, the biggest need right now defensive 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.360 defensive line. But why aren't we talking because it's a 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.080 shout talking about safe because you named all those safety 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:33.720 it's a deep class. If you listen to the draft show, Mickey, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.560 I can give you one hundred names about defensive tackles 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.000 and defensive ends. I'm going to focus on the defensive 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.520 line in the draft, is what I'm gonna do. So 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.280 that guy's gonna come in and and and be your 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.679 starter at right defensive end. Who the draft guy, Well, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.200 you're you're well, but this market, you're right, you start 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.319 right defensive end? Is Crawford? Am I wrong about that? 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.880 But you didn't want to improve that? Well, I think 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.679 it was gonna be Randy Gregory, Right, that's an issue. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.800 And I don't know tanks status with the tag and 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.360 the surgery and all that. When he's going to be 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.640 healthy back, that's that's an issue for me. But what 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.120 I'm saying is the free agent market at that position, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.520 it's not it's not a deep spot. So yeah, you 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.319 might have to look at the d Somebody just signed 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:19.240 Sheldon Richardson for like three years, thirty nine million, Cleveland did. Yeah, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.040 Zeke Jans is out there if you want to have 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.640 a run at him, very similar to mean you talk 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.439 about injury history and problems with him, talk about injury 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.520 history justin Houston. Yeah, but you just committed twenty million 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.280 dollars to trying to sign Lawrence Exactly. I'm drafting, drafted. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.120 I'm drafted a defensive tack or a defensive ent' I'm 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.520 double dipping both, and I'm try I'll try out take 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.160 a run at Earl Earl Thomas here if it's my number. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.960 And then and because you don't have a first round 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.800 draft pick, you're getting those guys second, third round, fourth 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.520 run whatever it might be. Might they work into a rotation. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.240 I'm might get the polite kid from Florida that's a 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.400 top fifteen talent, you know, but off the field stuff, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.160 you know, questions about him might drive him to fIF 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.240 fifty eight, if that's you want to If that's what 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:02.719 you want to do, if you want to get a 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.559 defensive end, and maybe you get Gregory that before with 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.960 Randy Gregory, Oh sure, and maybe you get him back 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.959 for week one, but you certainly can't count on that, 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.439 So I wouldn't rule it out totally might get him 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.520 back week one, but he's going to be there week eight. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.720 How about Tasher playing better? That would help? Yeah? Would 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.760 you want to bet on that? You know what, Mickey? 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.559 I mean, I have no really no choice right now. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.880 And then you got Dorin's armstrong as well. It's a 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.480 defensive end. Yeah, candidate, I have a better chance at 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.640 helping my team in the draft at that defensive line 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.280 spot than I do potentially as safety opinion. You know 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.800 there's a couple of names, all right, Brian, you mentioned 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.440 something relating if they were able to secure an earl Thomas. Sure, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.760 how that would affect the DeMarcus Lawrence situation? What I 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.160 think that you alluded to? That? Not really? Okay? Now 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.959 I know how would it affect who plays and who's 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.079 a backup? Put Jeff Heath? You play, you play. You 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.240 can interchange the two guys as far as would And 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.240 I'm playing Woods. I'm sorry, he I'm making you. I'm 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.520 putting you back on special teams where you you're do 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.720 me the most good. So you're playing woods. I'm playing 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.640 playing Woods. I'm interchanging. If I have to play one down, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.400 I play one down. If it's to play one back. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.199 I play one back. I think there are interchangeable pieces there, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.040 all right, if you let's explore this Earl Thomas and 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.559 how it works from a salary a payroll standpoint on 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.320 the defense. And with Byron Jones coming open next year, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:31.920 you got to sign him if you're going to keep 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.440 him long term. So would signing an Earl Thomas affect 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.400 what you do with Byron Jones going forward? Don't think so. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.320 I think they have the money to sign all these guys. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.880 I do. That's what I've been told, Nikki. If they 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.439 may told you different. I think what Bill was referring 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.840 to is next year. Yeah, I was talking about next year. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.840 I'm talking next year two. I'm talking about next year 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.199 because there's a ramification because they're not going to have 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.199 as much money available next year as they have available 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.679 at twenty four million this year. Well, then that's why 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.959 they need to sign the quarterback now. And you know 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.719 in the wide now counts next year you can't. It's 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.880 not just this year. I understand that projection. I understand 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.760 that that receiver market just got interesting, by the way, ironically, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.520 with the new guy that Oakland has and what they 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.959 just paid him. So how does that affect you know 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.320 what you gotta pay Amari Cooper coming up? Well, Cooper's 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.720 gonna get seventeen million a year. You try to give 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.480 sixteen to a bad player? What are you going to 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.120 give him? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.520 where you know where you're at, right, I'm not I 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.720 mean trying to give sixteen million to Sammy Watkins. Come on, Actually, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.080 it's probably going to get closer twenty million a year. Yeah, 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.720 it's all about it. It's all going up. You're right, 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:43.760 because he can get fourteen this year, so he's not 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.520 going to settle for anything less than that, right, point yep. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:53.920 And and the and the the franchise tag next year, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.120 who would go up to about sixteen or seventeen? So 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.800 he I'm in what all kinds of going numbers are 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:08.440 out there? So take twenty million, you know, I mean, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.880 I know, I understand how things are structured, and you 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.840 can get it. Sure, you give a spot, you give 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.600 m a huge signing bonus and keep his number low, right, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.160 And that's that's what you have to do. That's how 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.400 they're gonna do. They're gonna do that. Get ready, all 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:24.240 those guys, all those guys are gonna get dak Zeke, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.840 DeMarcus Lawrence. They're all gonna get huge signing bonuses and 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.000 then the numbers. The one thing this owner has is 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.200 deep pockets when it comes to signing bonuses. I know 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.800 it counts for stuff and things like that, but he can. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.880 He can. He's got other businesses where some of these 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.960 guys don't. He's gonna go from being worth five billion 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.880 to four billion. No, there's a reason why he's a 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.119 billionaire because he can create money. And now inside linebackers 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.720 are getting seventeen million a year. C. J. Mosley just 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.560 got five years eighty five million, seventeen million a years 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.040 the average. So you can worry about Jay Smith. Well, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.360 that's what I'm saying is a couple of years from 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.480 down to Jay Smith has entered that market. He's what 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.960 he's restricted next year. Ye you know you take down 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.000 the road you talk about you know Byron Jones. Cornerback 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.360 is a sneaky need for this team. If you look 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.720 at twenty twenty and what they've got. You know, with 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:18.240 Anthony Brown, I think also too with Lewis Woozier, I 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.080 don't think they're up. But Anthony Brown is up. Byron's up. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.000 Byron's up. Your Cavon in the secondary cavn. Frasier's up. Okay, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.000 that's not gonna bother me. Up, He's up. Okay, it's 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.840 not bothering me much. But you got I mean, that's 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.120 I'm saying. It's kind of sneaky knee down the road 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.680 if you look at it. And Detroit, Detroit just agreed 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.480 with a nickel back Justin Coleman. Four years, thirty six 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:48.520 million nickel back must be a pretty patriot connection. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.640 Mickey's not down with all this money flying around. This 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.840 is like paying a second baseman who hits two twenty 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.360 five ten million a year. It's free agency. It's becoming baseball. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.160 I don't think anybody is. I don't think anybody is is. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.680 Maybe the fans are, you know, I applaud what they're doing. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.639 I would rather draft and sign my own than be 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.320 bad like we were back in the day and sign 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.840 guys that suck. You know, I would, I would, I would. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.680 I would feel much better about signing Zach Martin's and 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.080 Travis Fredericks and DeMarcus Lawrences and those kind of guys 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.040 then I would the crap that we did back in 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.280 the early two thousand. Well, and typically the teams that 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.480 are doing this, they're doing it because they're trying to 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.840 fill a need they couldn't fill through the draft. That's 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.879 why you're overpaying. And you've got salary cap space because 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.480 you're not resigning your own. So there's a reason for it. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.040 But and I do think if there's a way there 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.160 is a team that can improve largely from within. Wrote 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.680 about this today on our mail bag, it's this team. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.639 Because you've got like a dozen or so starters from 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.919 last season, they're twenty five years approve absolutely, I mean, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.960 and that a lot of that's coaching. You know, you 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.240 got to you gotta help them get to the next step. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.280 But it's a young it's not like it's a veteran 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.119 team that's kind of topped out what they can be, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.640 So that that's got to be part of the hope. 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.960 Mickey's the anti fan. He wants to just draft and sign, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.160 which I don't disagree with. Fan wants to fan wants 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.560 to sign everybody. Fan wants to pay Nickel cornerback thirty 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.680 five million dollars. I kind of see the fans view 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.600 guys because they say, all right, this team got, they're 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.160 not gonna get any better. They got to the second 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.160 round with the guys they have. Yeah, this isn't new. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.960 These guys aren't new. DeMarcus Lawrence hell of a player, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.639 he's not new. What else can we do? LA signed 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.119 somebody that the other team didn't want. I get Mickey's 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:37.800 gonna hate me for saying this, but it might come 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.720 down on the coach. If you feel like your roster 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.240 is really good, this might come down on the coach. Well, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.720 and maybe that's the decision that they made. Yeah, that's 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.800 you know. Okay, let's see if the coach can pull 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.040 this thing together. Sign a defensive end for eighty million 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.520 dollars and then two years later, Oh, I gotta trade 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.640 him because I can't deal with that on my cap. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.440 Olivier Vernon, Yeah, everybody wanted Olivier. Now it's because you 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.719 don't have a defensive end. Yeah, we can trade them 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.800 because we can't take that cap charge. They hate Crawford too. Denver. 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.320 Denver signs Keenum to two years thirty six million, two 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.919 years thirty six million, and then we got to trade him. Well, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.040 how about how about Pittsburgh taking a twenty one million 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.680 dollar hit on Antonio Brown. Yeah, that's unbelievable. That's just 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.520 not the way they do things usually. Crazy. They got caught. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.080 That's just how bad of a situation it was in Pittsburgh. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.439 And you're really fortunate in this locker room here at 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.399 the start you don't have that problem that you have 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.000 guys that are just gonna standing out. Maybe this defensive 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.160 end will be a problem if it doesn't get done 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.560 the right way. You know, maybe he's gonna say, you 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.440 know what, I gave you everything I had there for 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.000 all these years. You know, where's the where's the you 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.920 know again, he's looking at a situation where, you know, 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:50.840 and maybe we need to research this a little bit more. 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.080 Maybe the Cowboys were thinking about him as a defensive 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.280 end when these these other high priced guys are getting 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.400 paid like outside linebackers. Look at Khalil Mack, look at Miller, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.399 Look at what position they play play linebackers. They just 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.800 restructured his contract too, by the way, Well, hey, they 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.680 flip that mechanism they do with all these contracts. Give 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.840 me ten million, here, give me eleven million. Here, one 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.040 of those things and I put those in this. I 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.800 put to Marcus Lawrence a defensive end, a rush defensive 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.680 end in the same boat as a rush outside linebacker. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.240 Would you great four defense? But myself I do. Okay, 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:25.960 maybe the put him under those are edge rushes. Yeah, 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.359 maybe the Cowboys don't. Maybe the Cowboys don't feel like 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.320 that that right, that he's the same level as Khalil 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.360 Mac because they play a different position, and I don't 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.600 I would not pay him. What what Khalil Mack's getting? WHOA? 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.760 You just said that? You think I know. I didn't 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.960 say they're the same player. They're the same category a player. Okay, 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.119 I'm not saying. I'm not saying to Marcus Lawrence is 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.280 Khalil Mack. I wouldn't pay Khalil Mac that kind of 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.440 money myself. That's kind of the day and age we 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.720 live in, though, boys, Right, you know it's not agent collusion. Yeah, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.119 let's not. This is this is what you know. You 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.600 just pray to God that you take your cap and 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.280 do it the right way, you know. But we talked 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.560 about it last week. Now, Daniel Hunter, what do you 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.119 get He's seventy two million over four years or was 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.320 it five five year? Seventy two million? I mean, that's 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.960 a club friendly contract. Right there. And I'm sure the 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.760