Speaker 1: They're two and eight in their last ten. They've lost
Speaker 1: six straight. The Angels have like you, you kind of
Speaker 1: put your team in this situation.
Speaker 2: Raiser Friday, Baby, let's do it. I missed some time.
Speaker 2: I'm back. Hey, Hey, you know what I really liked
Speaker 2: this week? Kratz the former player interviews. Let's get that
Speaker 2: going a little bit more again. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: actually a microcosm of how Major League Baseball works with
Speaker 2: most players while they're playing versus post playing career. Now,
Speaker 2: Tori had plenty of great stories while he was playing,
Speaker 2: and Jason Worth was a little on the quieter side
Speaker 2: when I covered him. He's not quiet anymore. So you
Speaker 2: get to see some extra personality come out once they're
Speaker 2: not worried about who's watching over them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the contracts that could be coming up, and
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, when Worth went to the Nationals,
Speaker 1: he could have been more out going in the media.
Speaker 1: He was plenty out going in the clubhouse. So that's
Speaker 1: how some guys see it. But I agree, get them
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: All day.
Speaker 4: Why not. We need more of that stuff. We need opportunities,
Speaker 4: We need guys to talk more about baseball how it
Speaker 4: used to be playing how it's playing now, and I
Speaker 4: know we give a lot of that, but more is
Speaker 4: always better.
Speaker 2: The thing is, when guys are playing, you got to
Speaker 2: be a little more careful. Some guys I think are
Speaker 2: too careful where it's like, dude, you don't have the
Speaker 2: owners not sitting there going let me play back every
Speaker 2: interview he's ever done. So I actually give credit because
Speaker 2: what we're about to talk about does include quite a
Speaker 2: few players and managers on the record talking about something
Speaker 2: that I think is super important in the game. So
Speaker 2: we're going to spend some time on it because it's
Speaker 2: sweeping through baseball news.
Speaker 3: Let's charge.
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball essentially shrink the strike zone and didn't
Speaker 2: tell anyone about it old umpires. As they have a
Speaker 2: new labor agreement with them, they'll claim they're following the
Speaker 2: same definition. That is true, but the way that they
Speaker 2: are grading umpires has changed. They have a buffer zone
Speaker 2: around the edges of the strike zone that has now
Speaker 2: shrunk significantly. They used to give them two inches of
Speaker 2: a buffer zone and now it's three quarters of an inch,
Speaker 2: so that in turn affects the accuracy of how they're graded,
Speaker 2: which in turn affects the way that the strike zone
Speaker 2: is being evaluated by umpires on a pitch by pitch basis.
Speaker 2: It has led to more overall accuracy. That's great. Eighty
Speaker 2: eight point two percent overall accuracy is the best we've
Speaker 2: seen in the stat Cast era, which tracks pitches like that.
Speaker 2: That era started in twenty sixteen when the number was
Speaker 2: eighty three point six. These are good things. Main problem here, Kratz,
Speaker 2: they forgot to tell everyone. So the Athletic did a
Speaker 2: banger job on this. Ken Rosenthal, Jason Stark, you know
Speaker 2: Sarrus are the three that are listed here on the article.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Ken coming up, and many more.
Speaker 2: Actually they say more on the article as well. So
Speaker 2: I want to give credit to all of them for
Speaker 2: putting that out there. They have plenty of people on
Speaker 2: the record that gave their names, plenty of people that
Speaker 2: spoke anonymously, players, coaches, teams that all said, Nope, they're lying.
Speaker 2: They didn't tell us, even though they said they did.
Speaker 1: I don't have all the manager's numbers like Ken and
Speaker 1: Emo and all those guys do. But every one of
Speaker 1: the guys I texted had no idea. No, I haven't
Speaker 1: found anybody that knew about the change. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't see like the bigger the bigger issue here is
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball trying to slide this through. Is it
Speaker 1: better that they're getting the strike zone correct, yes, But
Speaker 1: the bigger issue is negotiations are coming up here soon.
Speaker 1: The new CBA is coming up here soon. And if
Speaker 1: you're going to be doing tivous, nefarious little things as
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, how are you supposed to go to
Speaker 1: negotiating table as a player, as a players association and go,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna be. They're gonna be straight across
Speaker 1: the board here, They're gonna be, they're gonna be super
Speaker 1: honest with us. And it's just like, why why would
Speaker 1: we not tell the players who this affects, the pitchers,
Speaker 1: the hitters, who this effects and just keep it secret.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand this at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is something very important.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this, this going under the rug
Speaker 4: is is something that needs to be talked about a
Speaker 4: lot more. I mean, we're talking about a strike zone
Speaker 4: where this last year they're talking about, you know, having
Speaker 4: an automated strike zone. They're talking about getting rid of umpires,
Speaker 4: they're talking about you know, electronics and this and that.
Speaker 4: I think this is leading into something, could be leading
Speaker 4: something even bigger, Like did they want to startle to
Speaker 4: come out. I I don't know, maybe they did. This
Speaker 4: is something that maybe we'll see some more stuff come out.
Speaker 4: But you know, you get those three inches as a baseball.
Speaker 4: You take a baseball, I don't have one in my hand,
Speaker 4: but as you measure, it's almost three inches, you know,
Speaker 4: from east to west. I mean that's it's a lot
Speaker 4: of space and opportunity to throw strikes with and now
Speaker 4: to minimize that strike zone with the baseball to make
Speaker 4: a point seventy five instead of two inches off in
Speaker 4: the buffer zone. I always complained about that. I always
Speaker 4: talk you know, Phil Couzy and you know Rentel Stat
Speaker 4: and those guys, and I was like, man, you guys
Speaker 4: are getting a lot off the play. He's like, no, no,
Speaker 4: that's the buffer zone. And they always kept saying it.
Speaker 4: So I knew about the buffer zone a while ago
Speaker 4: with Joe West and all those guys. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't know how you're getting graded well on that
Speaker 4: because to me, that's a ball and you know, the
Speaker 4: human element I still love and I still factor in
Speaker 4: and I don't want that ever to leave. But you know,
Speaker 4: with talking to players and reading the article here, i'd
Speaker 4: be a little frustrated. I would just knowing that, you know,
Speaker 4: why am I not getting that call? Because I feel
Speaker 4: like it might be nipping the corner. If not, it's
Speaker 4: right there, but they locked it in up down east west.
Speaker 4: There are finding ways to you know, help the batter.
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Speaker 1: Some people are going to sit there at home and
Speaker 1: go two inches. Who really cares? That is a monstrous
Speaker 1: difference if we put up if we overlaid the new
Speaker 1: StrEG zone and the old strike zone and you put
Speaker 1: all contact around those edges, that's now eliminated the contact
Speaker 1: every it's something ridiculous like every half an inch contact
Speaker 1: out of the zone, the exit velocity, the hit probability
Speaker 1: goes down exponentially, like what it means you're chasing out
Speaker 1: of the zone. And that's why pitchers want to stay
Speaker 1: on the corners so that they can get those so
Speaker 1: they can get the pitches off the barrel of that
Speaker 1: are their cases. Absolutely can show hey get on top
Speaker 1: of a pitch above the buffer zone. Yes, but the
Speaker 1: hitters that keep the ball in the strike zone and
Speaker 1: only swing it. Those are normally the better hitters, and
Speaker 1: you eliminate that buffer zone. Now it's going to be
Speaker 1: more of an offensive game. But it's also going to
Speaker 1: be able to transition us into the challenge system next year.
Speaker 1: And I think they're trying to lock in where that
Speaker 1: border is because just a little bit of the ball
Speaker 1: hits okay, So that means if a little bit of
Speaker 1: the ball hits here, all of the ball was off
Speaker 1: of the zone. And if you make that now two inches,
Speaker 1: now that pitch is here and it still touches the
Speaker 1: buffer zone. So I'm glad that they clean this up.
Speaker 1: Just be upfront about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody agrees that they want the strike
Speaker 2: zone to continue to be as accurate as possible. For example,
Speaker 2: Christian Walker is on the record in this article saying
Speaker 2: always we always wanted to get better. But then you
Speaker 2: have Travis Darnau Angels Catcher on the record a couple
Speaker 2: times in this article talking about how they basically had
Speaker 2: to do their own homework because they started looking out
Speaker 2: and being like, wait, the zone seems a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Let's do some homework on this, And then words starts
Speaker 2: spreading and starts to turn into a story. Apparently there
Speaker 2: was an anonymous player who said he was talking to
Speaker 2: an UMP and the UMP goes, what do you think
Speaker 2: of the new strike zone? Ah?
Speaker 3: And he's like what.
Speaker 2: That's how word starts describing again. But think about the
Speaker 2: competitive advantage even for the first month, right, this is
Speaker 2: a game of inches, a game of games that can
Speaker 2: separate you from a playoff team, and not right one game.
Speaker 2: We see it every year. So there might have been
Speaker 2: some teams that knew about this a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2: Not every single player person everyone else found out about
Speaker 2: it at the same exact time. You have the right
Speaker 2: as a league to maintain competitive integrity To tell all teams, players, managers, etc.
Speaker 2: About what's going on in the offseason when this is
Speaker 2: being decided. And if you're saying you told everyone, and
Speaker 2: everyone is saying you didn't, very respectable command people, You
Speaker 2: did not communicate it, or you did not communicate it properly.
Speaker 2: So some people might have found out about this the
Speaker 2: first week of this season, and you have some people
Speaker 2: that just found out about this when the article hit
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 4: Can I just why didn't they just come out with
Speaker 4: it when they figured it out. I don't understand. Hey boom, hey,
Speaker 4: just tell you know new world MLB, the buffer zone
Speaker 4: has changed.
Speaker 3: Why is everything such a secret?
Speaker 2: I don't they claim it wasn't they claim they told everyone?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, come on, man, you.
Speaker 1: Think do you think it's an arrogancy of Major League
Speaker 1: Baseball in the sense of, nah, we don't need to see,
Speaker 1: we don't need to tell them, we don't need to
Speaker 1: tell them everything. Or is it a strategic thing saying
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys don't necessarily you're not necessarily
Speaker 1: upfront with everything. We don't need to be upfront with
Speaker 1: everything because we are the head, and the sense of like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're the we're the boss here, like you'll be fine,
Speaker 1: you'll figure it out later.
Speaker 2: I think he's confusing major League Baseball with the Godfather.
Speaker 2: You're saying that don sometimes doesn't need to tell everybody
Speaker 2: about the business going on. But there is. Yes, sometimes
Speaker 2: there are a lot of similarities with the leader there
Speaker 2: you go. A lot of their favorite movies are Mafia movies.
Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, he's not supposed to
Speaker 2: be like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, today, Hey, well you know, we found a new
Speaker 4: name for this new thing. We call, you know, I
Speaker 4: like the Homer Barey and uh, those names that you
Speaker 4: can use.
Speaker 3: Uh, this is the Bruce Buffer Zone, the Bruce Buffer Zone.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, it's a little chili Davison's.
Speaker 4: That's a little a little on. We're teetering on the
Speaker 4: Bruce Buffer right now.
Speaker 2: I like that last thing, and then we're going to
Speaker 2: get to Ken rosetall on it. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure that people know if you should check out
Speaker 2: the article. It's it's lengthy and it's worth it. It's really
Speaker 2: well done, but there are quotes in here from big
Speaker 2: league managers who you know. Dave Roberts asked straight up
Speaker 2: about this quote. No, I didn't know that. Tito Francona
Speaker 2: asked if he remembered being told this at the winter meetings,
Speaker 2: which is what MLB claimed quote. I don't believe. So
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. That doesn't mean they didn't because
Speaker 2: I can barely remember yesterday. My understanding was it wasn't
Speaker 2: a secret, but I don't remember them sharing it. Mike Schiltz,
Speaker 2: who was on the ball, I mean he is a
Speaker 2: pretty serious gamer. Okay, he is not missing something in
Speaker 2: a meeting. He's going to take notes in a meeting,
Speaker 2: and then he is going to think about it for
Speaker 2: days and then strategize it. And that's why this affects
Speaker 2: pitch sequencing, game calling, the whole deal, and it's why
Speaker 2: it rattled teams when they didn't find out about it.
Speaker 2: I'll give you Shiltz quote in the article. I don't
Speaker 2: remember having any communication with anybody at any point in
Speaker 2: time saying, hey, we're going to tighten it up. Not
Speaker 2: at all. I tried to pay attention during the meetings.
Speaker 2: I would have thought it would grab my attention. I
Speaker 2: would probably share that with his coaching staff, which of
Speaker 2: course would have shared that with players like Todfather in
Speaker 2: spring training. Some news that broke last night from Cody Stavenhagen,
Speaker 2: Tiger Territory host and the Athletics speed reporter on the Tiger.
Speaker 2: They designated Kent Tomata for Simon, So it's not going
Speaker 2: to be claimed. With the contract that he's got two years,
Speaker 2: twenty four mili, he's finishing that up this season.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: I feel like, go find yourself a little bit, get
Speaker 4: get going. He's not going to be down there for
Speaker 4: long in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't get sent down, right Kratz. Here, here's
Speaker 2: our specialist. Here, you go unclaimed because no one's going
Speaker 2: to pick up the contract.
Speaker 3: Then they'll probably pick him back.
Speaker 2: They cut him, no, and then a team can sign
Speaker 2: him for league men.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he's got he's got nine ers, he's working,
Speaker 1: he's close to his tenth year, so he'll just be
Speaker 1: he'll be released unless he's like unless he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go to Triple A because I'd rather be in
Speaker 1: Triple A and Toledo than anywhere else. But someone else
Speaker 1: will probably claim him. Somebody needs innings, not claim him.
Speaker 1: It's not claiming. I'm sorry. We'll to a minor league
Speaker 1: deal and then yeah, that Tigers for the twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was just coming out of the bullpen
Speaker 2: for to try, you know obviously. I mean he wanted
Speaker 2: to be more of a starter or at least a swingman,
Speaker 2: which he had done pretty well in the past in
Speaker 2: his career. Just really didn't work out with him in
Speaker 2: Detroit fastball getting torched. It's also thirty seven years old.
Speaker 2: He's had a really great career.
Speaker 3: You forget that. Yeah, you're just seven. He's been doing
Speaker 3: it for a while. Yeah, they're gonna be all over this.
Speaker 2: So check out Tiger Territory Kieren Steckley, Cody Stavenhagen, and
Speaker 2: Austin Jackson on many of the episodes as well. Go
Speaker 2: check that out wherever you get your podcast. Just type
Speaker 2: it in. Give them some love. It's a really good show. Hey,
Speaker 2: Big wu coming soon, Brandon woodra Remember this used to
Speaker 2: be a number one type starter in the game, and
Speaker 2: he went through it with the shoulder surgery. But he
Speaker 2: just finished his latest rehab start. Kurt Hog covering it said,
Speaker 2: for Class A Wisconsin within one batter of putting up
Speaker 2: six complete innings five and two thirds, three hits, no runs,
Speaker 2: one walk, three strikeouts. For a team that can use
Speaker 2: some starting pitching depth, this is gonna help at some point.
Speaker 4: We have talked about the Big Woo a lot. I
Speaker 4: hope God's Crotsy's boy, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love the Big Will. I think we missed talking
Speaker 4: about him. We miss seeing him and to see him
Speaker 4: get a rehab start. Kratzy is in his He's just
Speaker 4: in his realm right now. He's ready to go one more.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna be raided that thirty day limit, most
Speaker 1: likely one more. I talked to him. He said he
Speaker 1: wants to get up over the eighty pitch threshold. He
Speaker 1: got to seventy four yesterday when he threw, so that
Speaker 1: eighty pitch threshold, and he said he's feeling good.
Speaker 3: Love it.
Speaker 2: Hey, the Brewers are lurking. They're sixteen and sixteen, They're
Speaker 2: only three games out. I mean, the Cubs have gotten
Speaker 2: a lot of attention, rightfully, so nice start for them
Speaker 2: against a tough schedule. They're nineteen and thirteen. They've got
Speaker 2: a softer spot coming up in May. But the Reds
Speaker 2: are two games back. The Brewers are three games back.
Speaker 2: And the Brewers have been through this battle many times
Speaker 2: in the past several years and often come out on top.
Speaker 2: And I do think they're starting. Pitching depth is gonna
Speaker 2: continue to improve here, So I mean, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: Freddy p to Bias Myers, I like Kintana, I like
Speaker 2: Woodriff eventually when he comes back. There's other guys too.
Speaker 2: I know they picked up Quinn Priester and Chad Patrick's
Speaker 2: part of that. All right, ft, fam, We're gonna bounce
Speaker 2: around the league a little bit. So the loss yesterday
Speaker 2: for the Twins, which included three of four losing to Cleveland,
Speaker 2: was the tenth walkoff loss for Minnesota in Cleveland during
Speaker 2: the last five seasons. That's just a crazy trend. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know you play each other a lot, but the
Speaker 2: amount of walkoffs that you see between those two, it
Speaker 2: really gives Cleveland fans something to go home happy with.
Speaker 3: Knowing that they're always in the game. Yeah, opportunity.
Speaker 2: The walkoff's the best regular season kind of game you
Speaker 2: can have with regularity. I get it, perfect game, no
Speaker 2: hit or whatever, but walkoffs are awesome, right, keeps it
Speaker 2: to the end. You get to go home even happier
Speaker 2: than just a dub. I mean, would you rather go
Speaker 2: to a game where it's eight to one or four
Speaker 2: to three you saw a walk off with the kiddo?
Speaker 4: Yeah, lost eleven straight one one run games in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Think about that whole It's they I don't know if
Speaker 4: they ever.
Speaker 3: Want to go to Cleveland again. No, no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: And the Twins have a good bullpen, but the Cleveland
Speaker 2: bullpen Crats is really good and class is getting back
Speaker 2: on track.
Speaker 3: Cad Smiths, the g I.
Speaker 1: Just I just think when you go into a place
Speaker 1: and you use that many close games and that many walkoffs.
Speaker 1: I remember the Astros when I played there. For the
Speaker 1: minute that I played there, we went into Oakland and
Speaker 1: They're like, golly, it seems like we're always getting walked
Speaker 1: off here, and I'm like, really, I've never felt that
Speaker 1: way that night, and I walked off. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of it's kind of up here. But you just you know,
Speaker 1: some teams are just always in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that deja vu all over again. Yogi Jose Ramirez.
Speaker 2: You know he he obviously steals a lot of basses,
Speaker 2: but also the timely stolen bases for him are always
Speaker 2: there too, so give him credit. He's at two fifty
Speaker 2: home or two fifty stolen base guy. Now about the
Speaker 2: mark there.
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Speaker 2: Injury Suck Mike Trout hits the IL. We found out
Speaker 2: the news officially right after the game last night from
Speaker 2: Juan wash Ron Washington, who said the left knee discomfort
Speaker 2: you know, is going to put him on the shelf,
Speaker 2: but didn't say that it was going to be anything major,
Speaker 2: and they expect him to be back pretty quickly. But
Speaker 2: remember last year, two meniscus tears in different parts of
Speaker 2: that left knee led to two surgeries. I watched almost
Speaker 2: that whole game and then the postgame show yesterday, and
Speaker 2: wash you know, brushed it off pretty quickly. But of
Speaker 2: course we'll see how he reacts to everything. Trout's presence
Speaker 2: in the lineup's important. I know some people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: it was one seventy nine, two sixty four on base Okay,
Speaker 2: it was still a little above average with the ops.
Speaker 2: Plus it was barrel and baseballs. Some of the expected
Speaker 2: stats look good. He had nine home runs. You know,
Speaker 2: it's the kind of guy where you're like, keep him
Speaker 2: on the field, let him run for a while. And
Speaker 2: I mean, he could put up forty but this is
Speaker 2: about the same time last year when he went through
Speaker 2: the knee troubles. So you do start to get a
Speaker 2: little scary about this. Not to mention that Angels are
Speaker 2: in a bad rut again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, listen, it's scary anytime you talk
Speaker 4: about a knee with him. You saw he's trying to
Speaker 4: beat out, you know, an infield single there. He's struggled
Speaker 4: a little bit, hyper extended both knees. But I think
Speaker 4: he's gonna be fine. I think it's more of a
Speaker 4: scare than anything, and just to put him on the
Speaker 4: IL for a little bit. I think understandably ten days retroactive,
Speaker 4: get him going, and you know, I think he'll be
Speaker 4: all right. It's one of those things where again, better
Speaker 4: safe than sorry. Here at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: we don't know how it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Got to put him in the aisle, can't can't get
Speaker 1: him off his feet because they already have a DH.
Speaker 1: You know, they can't let him not play in the
Speaker 1: outfield for seven to ten days, so they kind of
Speaker 1: put him in this spot. Maybe it's I'm hoping it's
Speaker 1: not as bad as you know that he needs that
Speaker 1: whole stay on the IL, but you know what, they
Speaker 1: couldn't give him two days off and then give him
Speaker 1: like three straight dhs. He's got to go out there
Speaker 1: and stand on his feet every single day. And it's
Speaker 1: just like, maybe we shouldn't have gotten so Laire, but hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, Claire headed Dinger last night, So I
Speaker 1: guess who am I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Laire's play well and help them out. I
Speaker 2: think he's homewarding back to back games. Now, I wasn't
Speaker 2: against the player, but in the offseason I was just like,
Speaker 2: you gotta leave that spot open, and I know the
Speaker 2: case was made that they felt as if Droudy was
Speaker 2: going to take a billion swings if he was just
Speaker 2: the agent. And I'm like, in this case, if he's
Speaker 2: dealing with the knee, I don't think he would have
Speaker 2: done that. This is a smart guy. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know him. I don't think they said this, this was
Speaker 2: on the record. They were worried he's gonna take five
Speaker 2: hundreds wings if he's d ching, you know, in a day.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, he's not twenty. He knows what
Speaker 2: he's doing.
Speaker 4: Now, and I think he's smarter and as he's getting older,
Speaker 4: he understands his body and what he can and cannot do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know his full routine, but I know it's
Speaker 4: not the same as when it was, you know, seven
Speaker 4: eight years ago when he's just coming up. But he
Speaker 4: gets it. It's more kind of let me maintain my body.
Speaker 4: I got to make sure my joints, my knee, my meniscus,
Speaker 4: all that stuff is right. Then he could work a
Speaker 4: little bit upper body and keep staying bigger and stronger.
Speaker 4: But he's still a strong young man and he's still
Speaker 4: gonna go out there and produce. It's just It's one
Speaker 4: of those things and people think about, why isn't he
Speaker 4: the Mike trot Old, Why isn't he coming back and
Speaker 4: getting after it. He's getting older, man. People understand that
Speaker 4: he's getting older and he's had some injury, so he's
Speaker 4: he kind of got to ease into it before you know,
Speaker 4: you start pedaling away. So again, Angels fans pumped the
Speaker 4: brakes a little bit. I think he's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Angels fans don't want to hump the breaks about
Speaker 2: the team. That's the problem right now is the team
Speaker 2: was off to a nice start the first few weeks
Speaker 2: and then it's starting to unravel here. You know, I
Speaker 2: wanted to just focus on that game for a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes because they spent a good time watching it yesterday.
Speaker 2: I've been pretty high on the Tigers from the offseason
Speaker 2: up through now. Mys looked good. I know, you know,
Speaker 2: he gave up four runs, but he gave him seven
Speaker 2: innings to rest the bullpen a little bit, a solid performance.
Speaker 2: Kikuchi was pretty good on the other side. Tommy Kinley,
Speaker 2: by the way, brilliant pickup has been dominant Filthy Sub
Speaker 2: one era so far. Angels fans were losing their mind.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: In the eighth inning, they're up four to two and
Speaker 2: the offense had been not great lately. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of swing and miss in that lineup. Redebtmers comes in
Speaker 2: for a second consecutive game after giving up I think
Speaker 2: it was four runs the night before, gives up another
Speaker 2: four spot, including a Dylan Dingler three run home run.
Speaker 2: Re Detmers was a starter his whole life, and now
Speaker 2: he's working on the bullpen side of things, and you're
Speaker 2: after a clunker, You're giving him a back to back
Speaker 2: high level I'm like, Man, I need to know more
Speaker 2: about why that was the decision there, and I think
Speaker 2: everyone was looking for that. Ron Washington was asked about it,
Speaker 2: didn't give much, just thought it was the right spot
Speaker 2: with some lefties that he didn't get out, and then
Speaker 2: it all fell apart from there. But Man and Joey
Speaker 2: Odell had some issues in center field during that inning.
Speaker 2: It just all fell apart and it was one of
Speaker 2: those games where Angels fans were losing their mind. I
Speaker 2: do want to keep everyone focused also on the fact
Speaker 2: that the Tigers might be the best team in the
Speaker 2: American League, so they're going to capitalize on mistakes right
Speaker 2: now too. Hobby Bias hit another homer he robbed, so
Speaker 2: La looks pretty good in center field. I know we
Speaker 2: talked about this team of good amount at the top
Speaker 2: of yesterday's show, but it's just bad timing. It's probably
Speaker 2: it's not their worst. It's it's one of their worst
Speaker 2: losses of the season. And then right after the game,
Speaker 2: you got it was casual. They're like hous trout and
Speaker 2: he's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I l yeah, I got it. I gotta go.
Speaker 3: But il yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: You know how it is that the managers are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend a lot of time on
Speaker 2: this ill.
Speaker 3: It stinks.
Speaker 4: And as a manager, you want to go with your
Speaker 4: gut and you know, make certain decisions and see how
Speaker 4: a professional pitcher is gonna do and back to back
Speaker 4: games and see, you know, if it's pressure, how he's feeling.
Speaker 4: I know it's a new guy. He knows that a
Speaker 4: pitch you're you're a major league pitcher, so you should
Speaker 4: be able to figure it out. I'm not saying you're
Speaker 4: gonna do well, but you should be able to find
Speaker 4: the zone and throw strikes and not get not give
Speaker 4: up that many runs. But it's easier said than done.
Speaker 4: But again, as a manager, you stick to it what
Speaker 4: you feel and you talk to your coach and staff
Speaker 4: and can this guy go again? Yeah sure, let's call
Speaker 4: him Boom and they put him in. It just didn't
Speaker 4: work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like it, Kratz, And I mean, you
Speaker 2: got to keep evaluating what you're doing from a pitching
Speaker 2: perspective when you know someone like Griffin Canning's there for
Speaker 2: a while and now he looks like a freaking stud,
Speaker 2: looks like a number two starter on the Mets right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you clearly clearly blew that one. There's a
Speaker 1: few that they've blown. But let's go back to the
Speaker 1: Angels travel day that the organization decided to have. They're
Speaker 1: they're two and eight in their last ten. They've lost
Speaker 1: six straight. The Angels have, like you, you kind of
Speaker 1: put your team in this situation. It didn't say it
Speaker 1: they caused the bone bruise of the in his knee
Speaker 1: that Trout has, but Zach Kozar came out and said
Speaker 1: it that causes injuries that cause it makes it difficult,
Speaker 1: that is tough to come back from. Like, dudes, just
Speaker 1: don't they just don't rebound. Oh yeah, we had a
Speaker 1: tough day. We had a tough two days. Like I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Like the it kind of compounds, and you just you
Speaker 1: have to you have to have all your ducks in
Speaker 1: a row as a team so that the players can
Speaker 1: be in the best position to win. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that set them up very well. And obviously they're
Speaker 1: two and eight in their last ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this team has to win at the margins. They
Speaker 2: did some nice things in the offseason. I really like
Speaker 2: the Kenley Jansen pick up. But you're right. I mean
Speaker 2: we harped on this. Sometimes we do too much on
Speaker 2: a certain story. I don't think we did on this one.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 2: They haven't won a game since it's been a week. Hey,
Speaker 2: Andrew Chaffin in agreement with the Nationals on a major
Speaker 2: league contract. So Nationals need some bullpen help. I've watched
Speaker 2: some Nats games where that bullpen just falls apart. Yeah,
Speaker 2: twelve season coming into Wow, Chaffin's hilarious too.
Speaker 3: Just nice. Who's shooting left to hear he has to
Speaker 3: go get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, late career guy, thirty almost thirty five years old now,
Speaker 2: but this would keep it rolling for him. As he's
Speaker 2: going to find a home here Kratz. The Nationals obviously
Speaker 2: aren't serious about this year. You know, they didn't really
Speaker 2: do anything in the offseason. They've got some nice pieces,
Speaker 2: but it does get demoralizing when the bullpen gets beat up.
Speaker 1: And the Nats pick up Andrew Chaffin and Kyle Finnigan, Like,
Speaker 1: two guys, why didn't they have jobs? Like? What what
Speaker 1: am I missing? What am I missing that you don't like?
Speaker 1: I guess at some point you know he's gonna come
Speaker 1: on here. But we got to ask, like, were you
Speaker 1: asking too much? Caw Finigan obviously wasn't asking too much.
Speaker 1: So the Nats needed this. The Gnats need to lengthen
Speaker 1: their pen. I know Finnegan lost it the other night
Speaker 1: against the Phillies, but I think you can't just have
Speaker 1: this two headed monster at the at the end of
Speaker 1: your game. And I think he's a nice piece. He's
Speaker 1: not a he's not a driving the Nats to first
Speaker 1: place team type of piece. But I'm just confused why
Speaker 1: he didn't have a job before this.
Speaker 2: He did, it was just in the minor leagues, right,
Speaker 2: so he was in Triple A with the Tigers. He
Speaker 2: had signed a minor league contract with them. Got a
Speaker 2: two to one three R and thirteen appearances twelve and
Speaker 2: two thirds innings for Toledo, So it's like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: for a major league deal and had a three and
Speaker 2: a half last year, So I agree with you. I mean,
Speaker 2: sometimes you look at certain players and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: this guy's pitching pretty well in the playoffs for a team,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you can't find a
Speaker 2: job the next year. I don't know you know everything
Speaker 2: about the valuation process, but we'll see how he does. Hey,
Speaker 2: phil Aton looks pretty damn good for the Cardinals. Took
Speaker 2: him a minute.
Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned too, phil Aton's on there. There's
Speaker 1: no way Kirby Yates should have waited as long as
Speaker 1: he did. Like all the Dodgers, they get everybody, they're
Speaker 1: all available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just a standoff that occurs. It seems to
Speaker 2: be a thing lately with relievers, and then every team
Speaker 2: needs relievers at the deadline, second half, playoffs, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So whatever, the smart teams know what they're doing. You
Speaker 2: load up so that you don't have to unload all
Speaker 2: the prospects at the trade deadline.
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Speaker 2: dot com. Let's slap. We got some news right before
Speaker 2: the show started. Jazz Chisholm hits the injured list for
Speaker 2: the Yanks three days after the UH swing that left
Speaker 2: them with what is now being called a write obleaque strain.
Speaker 2: So that'll land you on the injured list for a
Speaker 2: little bit of time.
Speaker 4: That's tough. I don't care what it's not going to
Speaker 4: be ten days. I've had too many of those. Even
Speaker 4: if it's a Grade one, even if it's a strain,
Speaker 4: it takes weeks to figure that out. They don't want
Speaker 4: you doing much. You're not sure anything. You need to
Speaker 4: just rest and let that thing he all on its own.
Speaker 4: We don't I don't know the severity of what he's
Speaker 4: going through, but any part of that O blak, you
Speaker 4: cannot do anything on it. And I'm hoping it's a
Speaker 4: grade one takes, you know, hopefully a month, if not
Speaker 4: a little more than obliques are just a pain in
Speaker 4: the rear end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got seven homers, so he's off to a
Speaker 2: nice power start. Defense has looked pretty good. I know
Speaker 2: he had the one you know, or he didn't go
Speaker 2: to second the other day. Okay, mental gap, but he's
Speaker 2: he's handling second, I think pretty well. Eye test metrics.
Speaker 2: He's not getting on base batting average three oh four,
Speaker 2: on base percentage. It's it's never been his thing to
Speaker 2: be fair like. He's actually that's right around the career normal.
Speaker 2: I think some fans just expected him to elevate, you know,
Speaker 2: in that lineup, and I think, I mean, this guy's
Speaker 2: been in the league for six years.
Speaker 3: He is what he is.
Speaker 2: He's a low on base's got pop, he's got speed,
Speaker 2: he's got defensive he's in the right position, Kratz. That's
Speaker 2: the player.
Speaker 1: The question is did he make an adjustment to get
Speaker 1: on base more in relative to his batting average. He
Speaker 1: switched to a torpedo bat. It started out awesome all year.
Speaker 1: It's kind of gone back to the norm. The thing
Speaker 1: is his walk rate has gone up exponentially. I mean
Speaker 1: it is, his own base percentage is quite the same,
Speaker 1: and he's like fifty points below his career average. His
Speaker 1: batting average will go up. I'm just afraid he needs
Speaker 1: to swing more to be able to get on base more.
Speaker 1: So it's that dichotomy. And I saw the swing where
Speaker 1: he did his oblique and he did that like Todd,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're like scratching your rib, like maybe
Speaker 1: I can work this out. Next pitch, double down the line.
Speaker 1: And I hadn't heard anything from him until here this
Speaker 1: morning when we or this afternoon, right before the show started,
Speaker 1: that he was going on the aisle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not fun.
Speaker 4: He's been swinging out a lot of pitches this year,
Speaker 4: and from what I've been seeing a lot of balls,
Speaker 4: I should say like he's attacking, and you know sometimes
Speaker 4: he doesn't get that front foot down early enough and
Speaker 4: see it. But when he when he does hit, he
Speaker 4: finds his way to get on, but it's just few
Speaker 4: and far between right now.
Speaker 2: And then we also found out John Carlo Stan moved
Speaker 2: to the six day il I mean more procedural. I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone expected him back yet. We just don't
Speaker 2: really have a timetable. That's the big thing still for
Speaker 2: his return, and I mean he is I say this
Speaker 2: a lot, becoming a potential Robert Or of our sport.
Speaker 2: Just get in the playoffs, get this guy on the
Speaker 2: field maybe a few weeks before, to get the swing
Speaker 2: in line, and then let him absolutely torch top end pitching.
Speaker 3: In October, let him go. He was he was stupid good.
Speaker 2: Last year in October he was.
Speaker 3: He was really good.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so funy twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, he was ridiculous. Also went to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: was hitting two irons out to right center. Went to
Speaker 1: San Diego. He's hitting balls off the scoreboard and left
Speaker 1: center like this. He is. It's okay to be a
Speaker 1: playoff guy. It's also I think I feel like it's
Speaker 1: more optimistic that he will be back sooner than later
Speaker 1: this year. This is more procedural thing, because you know,
Speaker 1: We're halfway through a sixty sixty day il STD so
Speaker 1: far in this season, So another month isn't that big
Speaker 1: a deal?
Speaker 2: Agreed? And Hey, great way to finish the show on
Speaker 2: a Friday. Sarah Langs is one of the best parts
Speaker 2: of our game. Baseball is the best. Her phrase it
Speaker 2: is her birthday. Nice little tweet there for Mike Petrillo.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Sarah. And Kratz hats on the way out.
Speaker 2: You can do it in like fifteen seconds.
Speaker 3: That was definitely amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for Hunter Brown, how.
Speaker 2: Could we not downtown, Hunter Brown, come on down.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was one of my brother and
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was a backup catcher in college.
Speaker 3: Brother, and I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kratz and you probably through eighty something you could
Speaker 2: have just figured it out.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: He's a great story. Hunter Brown is awesome to watch.
Speaker 2: Thanks him for joining us, and great way to finish
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