1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Picture Jet Podcast, The Draft Podcast presented 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: by PEPSI, another emergency pod. Here Ethan Greenberg, Ya, Anthony Beck, 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Eric Coleman. I'm pointing. It looks like I'm pointing directly 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: at the camera, but really Anthony and Eric Coleman are 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: on the other side of the bet MGM studio here 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: and the Jets. So far, we're recording this ten eight 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: teen PM. The third round still going on. The Jets 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: have no third round picks, but at pick thirty four 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: they add to the offense wide receiver Elijah Moore out 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: of Old Miss e A. Let's start with you. What 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: do you like about to pick now? I love to 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: pick great failure. Joe Douglas said it after the pick 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: that they think the New York Jets think they have 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: selected three players in this draft with first round value. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: They were shocked he was there at the start of 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: the second round. Crossed their fingers that the Jacksonville Jaguars 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: went in another direction, and they sure did. And you're 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: talking about the most productive receiver in the best conference 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: in all of college football last year average nearly a 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards receiving per game, nearly eleven catches per game. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: You can line them up all over the field. This 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: is a nice weapon, a b for your rookie quarterback, 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Yeah, you're right. I think it's great. You know, 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: I think you know a lot of people probably thought 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: or would have guessed defense would have been this pick, right. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: But I think when you think about it a little 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: bit about what Joe douglass mindset is, He's like, I'm 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: not going to allow this quarterback to fail. I'm gonna 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: be deliberate about what I'm gonna do, and I'm gonna 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: get him another weapon. And like when I look at 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Elijah More, I think about, like, okay, slot guy, slash 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: gadget guys slash one on one guy on the outside. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: He can do so much for you. Catch the ball 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: literally at the line of scrimmage and get your seventy 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: eight or even a touchdown home run yards. So um, 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a smart pick. I think, like you said, Eric, 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, when you have a guy that's rated in 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: the top twenty five on your board and he's still 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: available at thirty four, then bam, you pounce on that 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: and it's someone that can contribute to the football team. Immediately. 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean think about it. You know, for a for 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: a group of wide receivers on this football team last year, 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: not coming into this season, man, totally different look for 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: this football team. You gotta be excited about it. Yeah, 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: you do have to be excited. I mean Elijah Moore 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: is you know, he's a well rounded receiver, excellent route runner. 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Um does a great job of finding holes and defenses, 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: beating one on one coverage, and once he gets the 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, he's very dynamic. I mean, you're 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who has ten catches a game, 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: but he's getting the yards after catch as well. He's physical, 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: he's tough. He's a punt return type guy, which is 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: always tough for defensive backs. Right, You're you're covering a 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: guy and once he gets the ball, he does all 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: this space in front of him and he can shake 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: and bake and he can take it the distance. I mean, 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: we're watching highlight videos versus Florida l S Shoe, Alabama, 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Arkansas all burn. I mean, like these are I bet 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: you the SEC has the most players drafted right now 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: in the draft. So like he I see a lot 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: of space between him and those guys. So which leads 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: me to believe that like count on that happening in 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: the in the in the league as well. So it's 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: a good pick man, It's I'm excited, I can't wait, 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: And this kind of builds like, what's this offense gonna be? Man, 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: and a guy like this can really be spent. Ethan, 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: you had a chance to talk to him, your takeaways 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: and also what do you think about how Douglas has 69 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: improved the position as a whole this offseason. Well, to 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: answer the last part of your question, first, you think 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: about where this receiving corps was before free agency and 72 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: now you have Corey Davis, Denzel Mims, calin Cole, Jamison Crowder, 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Elijah More missing anyone, and then you go down. You 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: go Braxton Barrios, Joe Douglas, resigned, Vincent Smith. I think 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Josh Doxon is still on this team even though he 76 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: signed last office. Jeff Smith. I mean, wide receiver might 77 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: be one of the deeper positions on the Jets now 78 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: and that was very much not the case at the 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: beginning of the off season. And really, you know with 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore Anthony Anthony talked about it right the SEC 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: play DeVante Smith is the Heisman Trophy winner, plays in 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: the same conference, and Elijah Moore led the country in 83 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: receptions and receiving yards per game. And what I really 84 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: liked about watching the highlights, you see him go over 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: the middle and he doesn't jump in the air to 86 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: catch ball, he just runs right through. And Daniel Jeremiah 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: talked about it. I'm curious what all three of you 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: think about the different player comparisons that came to air. 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Let's say, after Elijah Moore was drafted, Booker McFarlane compared 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: him to Steve Smith, and then I saw Reggie Sane 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: compared Elijah more to Santana Moss. So let's start with you. 92 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: What do you think about the comparisons there? And I 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: do want to say player comparisons is a weird exercise 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: to begin with, so I just want to leave that 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: at that. Well, Eric defended against Steve Smith, so I'd 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: like to get his thoughts on it. And I'm not 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: saying Elijah Moore is gonna be as productive as Steve Smith, 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: because you look at those numbers over the course of 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: his career, amazing and that's a nice comparison. He should 100 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: feel flattered about that. Comparison, but Steve Smith, where he 101 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: was a tough cookie. I think actually Elijah More probably 102 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: has more straight a head speed. Right, he's a sub 103 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: four four guy. He's a four three guy, but he's 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: got that toughness to his game and I love his versatility. Uh, 105 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Santana Moss was a little bit of a different player 106 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I think than Elijah More. What do you think, Well, 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I do like both comparisons. Steve 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Smith is an amazing route runner as well. He's great 109 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: after the ball. But Santana Moss. You know, when I 110 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: when I watched Elijah More with the ball in his 111 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: hands or when he even running routes, He's one of 112 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: those guys that can be running full speed stop on 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: a dime change direction. And that was what Santana Moss 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: did better than any receiver that I ever faced or 115 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: played with. You know, Santana's mass is his change of 116 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: direction was amazing and I see that in the Elijah More. 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: But I like to Steve Smith comparison to young Steve Smith. 118 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: When he was coming out of Utah as apart returner, 119 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: he was a gadget guy. Yeah, he ran excellent rounds, 120 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: but he can take the top off of defense as well. 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: And I see all these things in Elijah More and 122 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be exciting when you get him. With 123 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. You have the protection up front, and then 124 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: you add him with this core of wide receivers that 125 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: you already have. I think it's just a great recipe. Yeah, 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, when I look at him, I think about 127 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: like a blend of like Percy Harvin's uh kind of 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: athleticism with Cole Beasley's instincts right on that end the slot. 129 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: So you know, he's a guy again like very twitter 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: g gets to space quickly and once he gets on 131 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: the move, man, he's really hard to defend. I mean 132 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, playing that slot outside receiver. 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: He can be a running back, come out of the 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: backfield run routes. Just like you saw there. He's the 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: pointment inside guy on the bunch coming across the field 136 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: on you think about the offense that the forty nine 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: is on the play action stuff where they they slide 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: a receiver from left to right underneath the line. You 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: can't see the guy right, so he's gonna slide out 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: there and now he's running a four three with the 141 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, getting up the field before the 142 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: linebacker or the end even figure it out. And you 143 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: got your outside receiver running deep to pull out the 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: corner who's stopping this guy in the first So you 145 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: can be really creative. You can really open up your book, 146 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and you know, if you're a defense think about it, like, Okay, 147 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: you got a guy like Mims, like we what we 148 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: saw just a small kind of a window with him 149 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: last year. A guy that's got great catch radius, can 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: can make the contested catches, but you know he's gonna 151 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: attract attention. Corey Davis another guy again, we saw him 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: blend in Tennessee with with another old miss receiver A J. Brown. 153 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Will guess what, He's got another old mister receiver here. 154 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means, but hopefully it 155 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: means good things because they really hit it off pretty 156 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: well in Tennessee. So again Joe thinking about how do 157 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I make my quarterback better? How do I protect my 158 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: quarterback number one? And you know, if they can run 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: the ball, they're gonna have to run the ball. This year, 160 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: these guys become even bigger weapons. So I can't wait 161 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to see what this offense is you know, you think 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: about just what the forty Niners have done offensively under 163 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, and we're getting that here and that that's innovation. 164 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: That's a little bit more of uh, you know, deception, 165 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: play action, just you know, really honing into the core 166 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: of what offenses can be. But when you got speed 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: wrapping around into it, man, what are you gonna do 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: if you're safety, Like, you come down the box, you 169 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: go back and bam, all of a sudden, Elijah Moore 170 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: is running right by it at four three speed. You're like, oh, 171 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: you know, even you're leaving kind of situations. So I'm 172 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: should be if follows think about this. Corey Davis, the 173 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: number five overall pick in the two thousand seventeen NFL draft. 174 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: Jets think he's still on a Sundy player at twenty 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: six years old. Denzel Mims a B mentioned him before 176 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: showing the flashes down the stretch his rookie campaign. He 177 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: also has sub four four speed right he's on during 178 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the second season. Corey Davis never ran because he was 179 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: banged up before he got drafted by Tennessee. But he's 180 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: in that range. But he's a physical specimen on the 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: outside and then, so Mims was the second round pick, 182 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: and now you're investing in an early second round pick 183 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: again in another receiver who you think had first round value. 184 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Joe Douglas on his board, 185 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker was a top ten player. There's they 186 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: thought there was no way in heck that Moore is 187 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna be there at thirty four. Inf it would have 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: been interesting, guys if they didn't move up from three 189 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: to four team, if they ended up taking more. Yeah, 190 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely in the cards. And that kind 191 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: of leads me to my next point. So far, the 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Jets have got three picks. They don't have a third 193 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: round pick. We don't really know what's happening in the 194 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,359 Speaker 1: third round right now because we're in here recording the podcast. 195 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: But the Jets have six picks on day three. So 196 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, let's start with you, Anthony, what do you 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: think is next for Joe Douglas, Not necessarily in terms 198 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: of players, but maybe certain positions that you think the 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: Jets should hit because they need to fill some holes here. Yeah, well, 200 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, a corner I could see, you know, three 201 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: corners maybe of these of these picks, I mean why not, right, Um, 202 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: you know when you're when you're talking about what the 203 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: what they lack or what they're you know, kind of shorthanded, 204 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: and that's the position that comes to mind. And how 205 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: many corners do we go through, you know, with injuries 206 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: and just trying to find a guy or sign a guy. 207 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy how many? How many guys? 208 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: So you you need them. If you can get some 209 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: guys that you feel like fit the system, you grab them. Now, 210 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: you know you could you could also put some picks 211 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: together and move up. But I was thinking that would 212 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: be a good idea initially, right you you kind of 213 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: get like, maybe get five core guys in the draft 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: early and they can be players for you. But you 215 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: also you need depth. You need bodies, right, you need 216 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: players like you need more than just five guys. You 217 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: need you do need those picks. So you know, maybe 218 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the third they think about doing something, 219 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: but I just think you sit tight and if you 220 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: need to make a little bit of a move without 221 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: totally giving away a bunch of assets, you know, you 222 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: you kind of look at that. But man, just you know, 223 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: do your homework that this is what good scouts do, right, good, 224 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: good organizations, personnel people. They got everything lined up for 225 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: the situation and scenarios so that that player is the 226 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: best possible fit in that moment. And you know, they 227 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: think that those guys, whether it's four, fifth, sixth round, 228 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: they can be contributors to the football team. And if 229 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: you're lucky and you hit a arder in those rounds, 230 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean that, man, that's jackpot right there, because you 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: never really assume that. You hope they developed to that 232 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: and they can be that. But man, you get a 233 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: guy and I've seen it calls. We see it every 234 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: year across the league. Somebody ends up being a star 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: in those late rounds. Jets gotta find a way to 236 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: find that guy. Absolutely, And you mentioned it earlier when 237 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: talking about how this this year with COVID has changed 238 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: everything with the scouting and this year more than any 239 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: other year, there's going to be a couple of players 240 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: that slipped through the cracks end up in the fifth, 241 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: sixth round. And if they Jets did their job scouting, 242 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: I think they can find a gym U cornerback position 243 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: is is obviously one that they need to help and 244 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: bolster up. Also the linebacker positions. You know, I would 245 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: like to see some more depth at the linebacker position, 246 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: but I can see the Jets going back on the 247 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball and get in some more 248 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: offensive lineman as well. So you know, the really the 249 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 1: sky's the limit. You have six picks, uh, six opportunities 250 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: to make this team better. And the Jets, please believe 251 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: they're going to pick the best players that are available, 252 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: in the best ones that fit this scheme. What do 253 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: you think, e a um, I think these guys are right. 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna get at least one cornerback on Day three. 255 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Remember also, you're gonna be very active in terms of 256 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: your search for the top undrafted free agents out there. 257 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Day three is very important. In fact, I think you 258 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: sat here in this chair just a few moments ago 259 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: and talk to Joe Douglas and he said, this is 260 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: where you can make a good draft, a great draft 261 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: with those Day three fines. And think about it right 262 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: now as we sit here before ten thirty night, to 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Jets have selected three players. They have six draft picks 264 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: on Day three. This is huge and Anthony's right, you 265 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: have to fill voids just in terms of depth, but 266 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: with this team since they are building, since it is 267 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: the start of something. With the new coaching staff, they're 268 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna be opportunities for these guys who were taking in 269 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: a worth round to come in and make immediate contributions. 270 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: So defensively, yeah, I'm thinking corner, and I'm also thinking linebacker. 271 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Uh down the line here. Offensive line always um, but offensively, 272 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: what stands out to me so far, and I want 273 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on, Ethan and everybody's, is the 274 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: speed is really coming to light. It's not only that 275 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: this draft is always going to be remembered for the 276 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Jets taking Zach Wilson at number two, but you see 277 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: an element of speed here this offseason that I don't 278 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: know if this team has had in the past. I 279 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: think I think coach Salad talked about it from the 280 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: day that he was hired, right, the need for speed. 281 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: And I know I mentioned this earlier, but I think 282 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of forgotten. Den Gel Mims ran a fourth 283 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: three eight at the Combine because he hurts his hamstring 284 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: both of them, and then it never really seemed like 285 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: he ever pushed the gas as hard as he could. 286 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: So maybe with a full offseason he's able to do so. 287 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: And you adalyize more Corey Davis. I mean, I really 288 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: do think that the speed at the skill position player, 289 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: even Ty Johnson, someone who has burners, So I think 290 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: the speed is definitely increased. And you know, I want 291 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: to wrap up the podcast with a fun question. And 292 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious as two former players are sit across the 293 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: Ben MGM studio, let's start with them. Earlier today, there 294 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: is this phenomenon on Twitter where Zack Wilson's mother posted 295 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: on Instagram stories a number two jersey. Everyone's saying, you 296 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: love Jersey numbers. I'm big Jersey number guy. They're saying, 297 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: what is going on here? Zach Wilson wears number one 298 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: at b y U is he going for number two? 299 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: He said? He told the media he has not decided. 300 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: So Coleman, let's start with you, Zach Wilson, are you 301 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: pro number one? Are you pro changing the number the 302 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: number two or anything else? Well, and you can address 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: your beef right now because you have some b for 304 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: somebody in the organization. Oh man, yeah, so hit that first, right. Yeah. Well, 305 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: at first it was beef because it was like, man, 306 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, Tevin Coleman, He's gonna have the Coleman in 307 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: the last name. Um, he was with the Falcons. That 308 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: was my number, that's my name. And so I'm like, man, 309 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: he's eracing me from the books because he's probably a 310 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: better player than I was. And then he's coming to 311 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: the Jets. Now I'm excited to see him here. Anthony 312 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of changed my thinking about that. Now if he 313 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: does well, I could buy his jersey. Jersey sales man ses. 314 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take all the credit for that one. 315 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: But you know, when I when I talk about Zack Wilson, listen, 316 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Where number one was? 317 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: What got you here? You're a star to where number 318 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: one in the great state of New York. It's gonna 319 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: be something. Now did that rule get Is that official? 320 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Can that happen? Yeah? The number things? The thing is 321 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: always do that? Oh they could? You do have to 322 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: clarify this. There's somebody on the roster who does have 323 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: number one right now, Jalil Scott. Yeah, I know all 324 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: these things. I'm not worried about him out. You know, 325 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I want to look that up. I'm gonna look that up. 326 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: I remember there was a player, established player in the 327 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: league wanted to change his number. I think was Dalvin 328 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: Cook from number thirty three to four that he used 329 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: to wear, but the league told him he was going 330 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: to have to pay the one point four million dollars 331 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: in jerseys that are out there for sale. That's what 332 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: you probably won't see a lot of veterans doing it, 333 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: but we'll probably start that. But you see, you're right, 334 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: that's the thing, because I remember there was I don't 335 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: remember who the player was. It might have been Leonard 336 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Williams when he was here wanted to change his number 337 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: or was considering changing his number, and the equipment guy 338 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: was like, well, if you do that, you have to 339 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: buy out the rest of the jerseys that have already 340 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: been made. He said, you know what, I'm good with 341 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: ninety two, thank you very much. So. But Anthony's right 342 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: though the number thing has changed, so like, for example, 343 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, who wore eight at all miss could wear 344 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: eight with the Jets, but Jack Wilson could always wear 345 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: number one. So with that being said, I'm curious your take. Yeah, 346 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, look, man, listen, like Dion Sanders said back 347 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: in the day, right, look good, play good. Like if 348 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: that's the kid wants to wear that, hummer give it 349 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: to him, Like, I mean, if that there's some mental 350 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: stuff around that thing for people. Man, trust me, I've 351 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: been around players like if anyone you was in college 352 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: or high school, like they're they're not the same dude. 353 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: So if that's gonna make him the same cat we're 354 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: seeing on tape every single you know play that we've 355 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: been running through the highlights at b y U. Let 356 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: that kid wear number one. I'm good with it. If 357 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: he wants it, give it to him. If he doesn't, 358 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't, But I want I want to interject about 359 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: the Jalil Scott thing. He was number one until he 360 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: was signed to the active roster. I needed to change 361 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: his number because the rule was not an effect until 362 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: this offseason. So he's number eighteen on the roster. On 363 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: the right now, there is no one. There is no 364 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: number one there. The first number the Jets have on 365 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: their roster is no. Umber three, and that's Chase McLoughlin, 366 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: the kicker. Okay, so again, you you're fascinated with the numbers. 367 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: What I will say, as far as Zach Wilson is concerned, 368 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: is you be you. Whatever works for Zach Wilson, You 369 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: be you. You wear a headband, bring it here, bring 370 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: it to New York. I don't need you to change 371 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: change up whatever you're doing. It worked at the college level. 372 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: You don't come here and change who you are. And 373 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: that's on a serious note too. You don't change who 374 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: you are as a player. Sure we can work to 375 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: be better versions of ourselves, but I don't need him 376 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: to come here and choose a quarterback number and not 377 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: wear a headband and change who he is. Part of 378 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: the attraction or allure of Wilson is people in that 379 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: locker room gravitate towards him. They love his style of play. 380 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: And listen, I want my quarterback to have a little 381 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: bit of swag, a little bit of grant. I think 382 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: number one has a little more of what you just 383 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: said the number two. But if you want to go 384 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: with number two, go ahead. Listen. I wore Bandanna, by 385 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: the way, when I was in college. I came to 386 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the league. Well you did when you were earlier, when 387 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: you played early in the league. Yeah, they banned it, 388 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: and then he had to go to the skull cap things. 389 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: So I went skull cap after that. But you and 390 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: Vinie Testa, yeah we were, we were skull Cap guys. 391 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: But you guys comb your hair backwards before you put 392 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: the skull cap. Of course, like you know, it was 393 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: well matted down. But I was a bandana guy coming 394 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: because you could wear that in college and I was 395 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: told I couldn't wear that after a while. Bandana. Maybe 396 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: that changed me as a player. Yeah, you're hurt. That 397 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: was you know what I love about Wilson too, with 398 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: the headband, the bandanna, and you go back to Jim McMahon, 399 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: what was you thinking the same McMahon wearing net bandana. 400 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Loved it, loved it. Yeah, that was before my time, 401 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: but I did like when I watched you know, when 402 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I was watching stuff on They Bears or whatever, and 403 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: when Jim McMahon was playing, I saw the headbands. That's 404 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: pretty cool. And you know, if I do agree with 405 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: e C. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But 406 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: if you want to change it and go for it, 407 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what happens. Right, I will say 408 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: the one thing that Jack Wilson said on a totally 409 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: other note, and then I'm gonna wrap up, which I 410 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: thought was cool. Someone said, hey, essentially, hey, we know 411 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: you look young. How are you gonna walk into the 412 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: NFL and the bright lights of the Big Apple and 413 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: lead a locker room. He said. Listen, some of my 414 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: best friends have three kids. That's what happens at b 415 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: y U because every everyone's older. Everyone goes on missions 416 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: and comes back, so he's used to it. And that 417 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: is the way we're gonna end this episode of the 418 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: official Jets podcast, The Draft Podcast, presented by Pepsi. We're 419 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a full draft recap.