WEBVTT - FULL 2025 NFL Draft Recap: The Adam Peters Masterclass | Ticket to the Draft | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.880 On today's episode of Ticket to the Draft Podcast, we 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.360 have a full draft recap and we talk about the 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:08.799 master class that AP put on, and we go through 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.280 every single pick. And it's so fun doing this post 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.400 draft Jason, because we get to see all those little 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.480 nuggets that make these guys commanders football players. It all 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:25.680 starts right now. Welcome to Ticket to the Draft Podcast. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.000 I'm Logan Paulson here with just a guy, Jason, who's 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.000 really more than just a guy at this point, say 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:32.839 you watch two hundred guys, You're more than just a guy. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.200 Anybody can watch two hundred games just a guy. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.760 And as always represented by Sea Geek. This summer, See 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:39.920 Geek has your ticket to the best live concerts in 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.600 the DMV at Northwest Stadium. Seekeek the official primary ticketing 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.599 partner of Northwest Stadium. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.040 Can I say something real quick? So, yeah, I quote 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.600 unquote watched two hundred and eight guys right. That means 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.840 I turned it on and I watched it right. I 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.040 saw them play college football in some capacity. Now, I 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.000 want to be clear about something. There is some guys 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.760 said I watched way more than others that I have 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.480 way better feeling of sure, So I didn't even write 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.039 notes on some of the guys. It's just like I 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.759 quickly watched them and went, okay, I have a feel 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.160 for you. This is so I can try and have 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.920 recall if someone brings them up. As far as like 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:19.000 actual evaluation, I'm probably in the one seventy five range, kind. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.479 Of in that same buff park. Because I was talking 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.920 to something the other day who had watched Now they 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.360 work for a team, they watched five hundred guys, and 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.160 he'd written a report. And if you're working for a team, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.479 that means you're watching at least three games and sometimes 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.240 six games if it's a dB so like, and I 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.440 just was like, oh, yeah, I've watched about a game 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.960 on a game, maybe two on about one hundred and 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.199 sent five guys, and I've written a report on those guys, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.440 So a little different ball of wax. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.640 Yeah, and their report is more than like the three 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:46.880 sentences I write. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.000 On a guy. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.800 So I've seen my agent sometimes like when he gets clients, 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.400 they'll pass me a thing and be like, what do 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.680 you think? And I'll watch film with a guy, and 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.880 usually an NFL draft report is got the round grade 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.200 at the top. Wait number of colleges they were at 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.600 and then it is a significant write up, yeah, strengths, weaknesses, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:11.240 overall review and it sometimes scheme fits. Sometimes it's two pages, 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.680 and so you're kind of like, oh, like this is 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.959 not just like let me whip this up real quick 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.040 in five minutes type of deal. And it's and they'll 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.920 have the games watched at least at a minimum of 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.800 three and sometimes it'll have like a little tab for 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.119 like situations watch like two minute versus blah blah blah. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.680 We're all targets for if it's a receiver or all 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.000 sacks given up, you know, if it's an offensive lineman. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.760 So it is a you know, like we talk about 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.720 talent evaluation, like it's just a different level of stuff 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:38.760 that these NFL teams are. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.360 Yeah, that's why it's a full time job. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:45.400 I think that sometimes like people get confused, especially with 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.440 national media pun ins and like people that do this, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.040 including I'm going to include myself in it. We're like 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.119 this is seasonal right as it is, this season ends 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.000 and for us was a little later this year is 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.040 when I can start to kind of dive into this 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.200 and then I can only watch so much. I only 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.320 have time for so much. Now granted, I'm putting an 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.440 effort into it. I'm trying to learn. But there are 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.400 people like you say that work for teams, scouts and whatnot, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.480 that this is what they do all year round. And 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.120 there are some national people that do this too, like 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.880 Trevor Sikima is a great example. Like him and Conna 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.360 Rodgers won't beff two summers scouting. They'll start already looking 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.880 at tape for guys for next year. Like that is 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.200 part of their gig, is that? But like for me personally, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.359 like that's why I'm just a guy, is like I'm 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.000 doing what literally anybody that's listening to this out there 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.240 can do. If you can find a couple hours in 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.320 a day to go watch a couple of YouTube cut ups, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.160 find some all twenty two of these guys, watch every target. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.280 If you're like psychotic enough to do that, then you 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.240 can do what I just did. I'm just a guy, right, 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.760 I'm not a professional scout. I'm not involved in I'm 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.960 not involved in going to see them. I'm not involved 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.720 in the interview process. Like there are a few things 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.440 that working for a team kind of helps me with, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.720 Like we get to go to the combine, see them 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.960 live there and the Senior Bowl and things like that. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.800 But yeah, so when you say like, I'm not just 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.920 a guy, I'm absolutely just a guy. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.440 You're just a guy compared to NFL people, but compared 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.920 to the most people, you're you're starting to move up 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.640 in the world a little bit, right Like. And it's funny, 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.240 even like Trevor Sigama, who we have a lot of 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.880 respect for on the show. We have them all the time. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.359 He's really smart dude. I think there's also just a 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.400 difference between like the level of stuff that he's watching, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.800 like in terms of how deep he's going, and also 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.760 like the actual scouting stuff, like when you talk to 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.520 an NFL scout, like they know they know the prospect 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.480 in a different way. And I know we've mentioned that before, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.280 but I just think it's an important thing. As we 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.880 kind of conclude our Ticket to the Draft season here, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.680 we got this episode and one more. It's just to 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.679 kind of it. It always I always find it helpful 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.200 to reflect on, you know, Like when a fan comes 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:46.640 up to me, it's like, oh, man, I think they're 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.279 really missed out on so and so right the player 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.200 X and I having watched the film, I'm like I 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.000 know why just from the film and then sometimes I've 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.400 like talked to people and I know a little bit 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.640 of inside baseball, but just these teams, and we've talked 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.000 about a nauseum. They are in a different stratosphere of 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.800 distilling information. They're watching way more film than most people. 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.520 Like I said, this guy was watching at least three games, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.040 sometimes six games on prospects. He goes back and rewatches 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.720 prospects right, and then in conjunction with that element, there's 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.719 also like investigative information on prospects. Right, He's talked to 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:27.120 prospects like it's really next level, you know what I 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.280 mean in terms of what these teams are doing, and 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:31.880 you mean you still need to make good decisions with 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.159 that information, but it's just it's so much more comprehensive 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.480 than anything that we could do. And I think even 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.640 like Trevor Sikamo, who's doing it year round, could do 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.200 just because their access to the athletes is so much different. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:42.920 It's so hard. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.320 That's why there's not one guy on an NFL team 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.520 that's doing this. There a lot of scouts, there's a GM, 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.960 there's the assistant GM, there's heads ahead of scouting departments 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.559 like there's a ton and they're all getting together. Because 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.600 there's so much that goes into this, it's really really 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.120 hard for one person to do all of it, even 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.960 year round. The other thing I wanted to mention and 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.000 then we can get off of this and do Commander's 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:11.720 draft recap is that when we do this or when 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.400 I do this for this pod, and then when a 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.479 lot of people do this naturally, like the mel Kuipers, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.080 the field Gates, whoever, right, Todd mcshay's, when they do it, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:23.680 they're doing it with a zoomed out NFL lens, and 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:29.200 teams don't always look at prospects that way. They zoom 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.880 in and go scheme matters, personality, mat like things that 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.000 you look at when you're looking at it, as can 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.920 this guy make it in the NFL quote unquote. Other 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.839 teams are looking can they make it here in this situation, 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.800 in this scheme, with our coaching, with our culture, and 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.320 those are all things that we don't look at. I 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:52.159 don't look at that go into the evaluation process. And 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.320 there could be a player that is uber talented and 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.920 people are going nuts on TV on the broadcast. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.320 Why is this guy falling? Oh my god, he's my 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:00.960 best available. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.440 He's going so far down and it's like, yeah, but 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.320 there are things that maybe he doesn't fit in with 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.040 teams that are would look for him. And that's not 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.080 just personality, that could be scheme, just straight up scheme. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.680 He doesn't fit in what we're trying to do. So 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.000 why would we bring him in and try and put 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.600 a square peg in a round hole. That's not going 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:22.800 to be good for him, It's not going to be 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:23.240 good for us. 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.960 Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the other thing 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.360 that I would just kind of piggyback on that with 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.440 is as you move down the draft, there's a reason 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.200 that you see projected. You know, if I try to 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.040 project the top one hundred, that's relatively easy because you're 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:40.160 just saying these are going to be the top one 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.240 hundred players in the draft. But as you get down 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.440 into like that like one to two fifty kind of range, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.400 it becomes really hard for the reason that you're talking about, right, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.040 because people are going to say, oh, we like cornerback, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.360 We like the fifteenth quarterback better than the tenth cornerback 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.400 because we think he fits what we want to do 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.360 defensively a little bit better. So all of a sudden 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.720 all that feels like a each but it's like that's 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.400 where the stylistic elements of the team become like they're 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.480 projected on full display. And you're still trying to draft 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.840 good football players obviously, but I think, but I think 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.880 that's something to consider. Like as you move down the 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.400 draft board, like the tiers get wider, there's more people 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.440 per tier, and it becomes harder to kind of identify 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.800 what the league's valuing at that moment of the draft. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.520 Are they looking for, you know, a third down running back, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.440 Are they looking for a special teams guy? And I 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.240 think those decisions, those those those decisions can be tough. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.040 So with that in mind, I think we should do 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.720 our draft recap. And you know, I kind of I 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.160 consume a fair amount of draft content, Jason, And one 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:39.640 of the things that sticks out to me is it 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:44.040 seems like kind of nationally, the Commander's Draft is very 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.760 well supported, very well like kind of across the board. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.800 CBS Sports gave it an A minus, AP News gave 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.599 it a B plus, Sports lillitat to give it a B. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.560 NFL dot Com B p f F P plus, The 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.320 Ringer B and there's a couple things I want to 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.920 touch on there. One, I think and a low volume 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.400 draft to get a B grade at a minimum is 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.840 pretty good. And then you couple that there's a I 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.200 forget the publication, but they basically aggregate all of the 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.480 all of the mock draft data put in an an 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.000 algorithm and then compare it to who was actually drafted. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.400 And the Commanders in that model were the second highest 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.600 graded team. So obviously there's a lot of value in 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.480 this draft, and that's pretty exciting. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.800 Yeah, So let me let me start off by saying 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.760 that this is really cool. We love it last year 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.880 when we got a bunch of a's across the board, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.280 and I think, though, we're getting b's here, which is good. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.000 That's above average, Right, that's a solid draft. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:46.880 Right. I think these grades sometimes vary on the sexiness 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.800 of the draft as well, right, Like, it's hard to 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.120 like not give an A to a team that drafts 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.400 like a potential game changing quarterback. But the other thing 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.400 that I wanted to say about this is none of 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.720 this matters, right, Like, these grades they're cool, Right, I'm 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.600 glad that the everybody thinks that this is a good 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.199 draft for us, and that everybody's happy about this draft naturally, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.520 like that's cool, that's great, it makes me feel better, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.040 but also like, these guys haven't played a down of 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.520 football in the NFL yet, so we don't know how 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.400 any of this is going to fall. And I have 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:25.040 seen sometimes here sometimes other places draft grades of c's 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.600 and d's and it ended up being a great. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.120 Draft for that class. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.319 So this is not to say that we're going to 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.480 be worse than an A A B plus a B, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.400 but we could be better than this. This could end 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.200 up being two back to back drafts that are fantastic 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:41.160 for this organization. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.160 Yeah, And I think the thing that sticks out to 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.280 me piggybacking out that point is that, like after me 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.880 doing a big board, me doing a horizontal board, and 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.960 like really kind of working through the process of the 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.000 first one hundred picks specifically, it gave me a much 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.400 stronger appreciation, quite honestly, for how Ap handled the draft. Right. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.600 He kind of just took these players that had like 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.960 really high floors, that were very that were very safe, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.560 very safe picks. Like the confidence level in Josh Connery 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.080 is extremely high. And I was talking to someone this 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.040 morning about, you know, like what about Josh Shimmons. And 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.240 I think you and I both from the tape had 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.000 higher grades on Josh Shimmons, Like he was he's a freak, right, 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.760 He's like this athletic unicorny moves really well. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.280 But he might not play football. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.760 He might not play football this year because he got 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.160 he's got he's got the torm potella. There's some you know, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.280 behavioral stuff off the field that I don't know. I 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.120 don't not privy to what exactly that is. So is 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.679 it him you know, watching too much TV or is 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.800 it anything? Yeah? And then the other element too is 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.680 like the consistency of play when he was on the field. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.440 He only played six games. You see the athletic flashes. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.679 But when you compare the consistency of play to Josh 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.680 Connelly for example, who we picked at twenty nine, Connery 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.679 was incredibly consistent. And I think that's something that's extremely 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.240 valuable is knowing the floor of a player, to me, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.800 especially when you're picking high, is extremely extremely important. So 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.280 you know, like just to kind of flesh out this 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.320 discussion fully, it's like, you know, Will Johnson that comes 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.120 out that he's got some type of serious knee issue 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.880 that was that limited him last season and could limit 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.520 him moving forward. Yeah, he slips in the draft, and 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.880 then obviously Mike Green, then he slips in the draft. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.440 The sexual assault allegations, which he acknowledged. He talked about 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.400 them at the combine, apparently talking with a couple of 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.079 scouts and a couple of gms, Like didn't handle those 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.320 interviews super well. So again, if that's going to be 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:36.720 like a little bit of a red flag, like why 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.440 not go with a player like Connory? Who you know? 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.679 And I think the other thing about Connory that is 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.240 so important to understand and in the landscape of those 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.960 other names that we just mentioned, is he is an 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.120 athletic freak. So not only is does he have a 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.480 very high floor, like a very consistent methodology of play 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.679 and is excellent value at twenty nine, but his ceiling 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.240 is also tremendously high. Right, he's six', five he's three, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.400 eleven so little bit on the slender side for an offensive. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.560 Tackle he's only twenty one years, Old he's going to 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.080 continue to. Grow it's got thirty four inch, Arms like 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.480 that's meeting all those threshold numbers that we talked about for. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.040 Tackles and he ran a five flat forty with one 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.199 of the fastest tens of the combine and a tremendous 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.800 First SO i just look at, That i'm, like this 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:21.280 dude has the athletic makeup to be significantly, better, like you, 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.480 know move up into that kind of top, twelve top 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.360 fifteen range of offensive linemen while also having a very 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.200 high floor and very good. Character AND i think obviously 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.440 we're going to talk about these guys individually as we, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.680 go BUT i think understanding that dynamic Around Josh connery 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.000 makes it kind of paints a really beautiful picture for 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.240 WHAT ap did in this draft and what the whole staff. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.480 Did they just, said we want guys that we know 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.160 that we have very high confidence, in and that can 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:48.439 be more because of the athletic. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.760 Profile the other thing THAT ap, did And i'm going 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.040 to steal a take From Jeremy, green friend of the pod, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.679 HERE i texted. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:55.880 Him after the. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.160 DRAFT i was, like just give me your, thoughts and 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.400 he said something that stuck out THE i was, like 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.400 oh my, GOSH i didn't even think about, that and 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.960 that was if if you look at your For, jeremy 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.880 it was his personal one mind matched up a little 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.920 bit where it was like our personal big board and tier, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.840 right you have A tier one kind of offensive, lineman 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.280 and they were gone by the time you get to 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:17.760 pick twenty. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.400 Nine and Then. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:23.160 Ap takes the. First for, me it would have been 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.080 the first out of the next tier of offensive linemen in. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.520 Connery so then you see after. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.760 That in the end of the first and into the 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:38.040 beginning of the second, round more offensive linemen start to drop. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.240 Again so What Jeremy green said is Like ap was 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.440 the trendsetter, here, right he got on it Before you're 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.880 not panicking and, going oh my, gosh here comes to, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.200 RUN i need to jump on the. Train he's the 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.600 one driving the. Train he's the one driving what the trends. 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.320 Are so he saw that when picked twenty, Nine, okay 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.800 we're already in the next. Tier so let's get the 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.720 best out of the SO i don't have to panic 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.920 and feel LIKE i have to trade, UP i have 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.960 to get a guy, here or it's letting the draft 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.920 fall to, you but also realizing you need to be 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.640 one step ahead of other. Teams and that's what he 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.480 Would that's what he. Did it looked like that's what he. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.520 Did and when he When jeremy said that to. ME 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.360 i went back and looked at my board AND i was, 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.520 like oh my. Gosh he did that For, connory he 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.000 did that For, amos and he did that For Jalen 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.920 lane a little bit, too when you get into that. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:29.280 Area so like he was the one leading the charge 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.680 when it came to, oh here comes a. Run, yeah 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.120 it was started by the commanders when you go back 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:34.520 and look at. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.320 It. Yeah AND i think that's a great point brought 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.800 up by you And jeremy and that like if you're 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.040 looking at guys that were going to be fringe first round, 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.080 players so Like connorly to me was like that tier, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.480 four so like you can go at, thirty you could 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.680 go at. Fifty there's kind of that nice range of 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.400 where he could. Go but Like connorly to me is 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.280 in that cluster of first round players like kind of 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.960 rite on that teetering, board and so getting him there 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.960 is tremendous. Value and THEN i think the next offensive 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.320 lineman Is Ossie, tripelle who to me is in a 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.240 distinctly different, category, right kind of to your. Point and 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.880 then you Get Anthony, belton who's kind of in That trpillo, category, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.840 Right and then you Go Charles grant From william And, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.680 mary who's more of a developmental guy Than, okay that's 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.480 three guys right, there and then there's another drop off 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.800 To Jalen, travis who's kind of in that next. Year 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.560 and so if you, said, hey we really needed to 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:26.000 get an offensive tackle in the, draft you're looking and, saying, well, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.080 shoot Like Anthony Belton Jalen travis are kind of the next. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.240 Like so one of those guys will probably be at 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.040 the bottom of the, second high, third one of those 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:34.520 guys will be at the bottom of the, third early. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.080 Fourth we're not picking again until one twenty, eight you, 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.000 know after sixty. One we're not picking into one twenty. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.480 Eight and so if you dropped An Anthony belton at sixty, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.080 one that's a, reach you know WHAT i. Mean that's 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.960 and so. Understanding you. Know Dan quinn said this when 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.880 we did the interview with, him you know, Me Brian, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.480 colbert we talked to him before the. Draft he, said 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.640 one of ap superpowers is understanding the layout of the, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:04.159 landscape like understanding where the value resides and like so he, said, 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.439 like as a, COACH i get to watch the players 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.000 AND i love all of, them So i'll come to 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.399 him and be, like, MAN i really love PLAYER. X 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.280 i JUST i can't get enough of. Him and THEN ap, says, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.960 oh that's good to. Know BUT ap knows like he 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.159 is going to be picked in the fifth, round so 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.960 doesn't need to be a first round. Player but we 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.680 can kind of wait and find this guy That Dan 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.520 quinn loves later in the. Draft and, that to me 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.400 is one of the hardest things to, do is being 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.000 able to separate your big board from what you perceive 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.320 the league's big board to. Be AND i think you 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.840 just did a really excellent job of. That and Again 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.639 connorly kind of exemplifies. That. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.600 Yeah, Absolutely and just to put that into, perspective we 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.160 were watching the draft together AND i had a hard 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.040 time getting out of my own head and my own 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.840 biases for players THAT i, liked And i'd sit there and, go, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:53.679 OH i really want this. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.280 GUY i really want this. GUY i really want this, 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.000 guy and he would go two rounds, later and, like 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.400 that's not a knock my. Evaluation that's a great. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.080 Point it's just That i'm sitting here thinking only of 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.639 myself and my big, board And i'm not thinking, that, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.719 well do The titans need a player like. This SO 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.399 i didn't sit there and, go, OH i can just. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.920 Wait i'm just sitting there looking at my. Board i'm, like, 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.520 oh he's right, there he's right. There he's right, there 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:18.600 not considering what other. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.200 Teams want or, need. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.080 Want, need or have history of, doing. 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.120 How they prioritize stuff like it's and when you think 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:27.959 about it in that, way it makes it even more, 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.160 impressive like having gone through this. Process and again it's 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.920