1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: On today's episode of Ticket to the Draft Podcast, we 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: have a full draft recap and we talk about the 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: master class that AP put on, and we go through 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: every single pick. And it's so fun doing this post 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: draft Jason, because we get to see all those little 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: nuggets that make these guys commanders football players. It all 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome to Ticket to the Draft Podcast. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with just a guy, Jason, who's 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: really more than just a guy at this point, say 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: you watch two hundred guys, You're more than just a guy. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Anybody can watch two hundred games just a guy. 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: And as always represented by Sea Geek. This summer, See 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Geek has your ticket to the best live concerts in 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: the DMV at Northwest Stadium. Seekeek the official primary ticketing 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: partner of Northwest Stadium. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: Can I say something real quick? So, yeah, I quote 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: unquote watched two hundred and eight guys right. That means 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: I turned it on and I watched it right. I 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: saw them play college football in some capacity. Now, I 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: want to be clear about something. There is some guys 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: said I watched way more than others that I have 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: way better feeling of sure, So I didn't even write 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: notes on some of the guys. It's just like I 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: quickly watched them and went, okay, I have a feel 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: for you. This is so I can try and have 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: recall if someone brings them up. As far as like 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: actual evaluation, I'm probably in the one seventy five range, kind. 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: Of in that same buff park. Because I was talking 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: to something the other day who had watched Now they 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: work for a team, they watched five hundred guys, and 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: he'd written a report. And if you're working for a team, 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: that means you're watching at least three games and sometimes 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: six games if it's a dB so like, and I 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: just was like, oh, yeah, I've watched about a game 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: on a game, maybe two on about one hundred and 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: sent five guys, and I've written a report on those guys, 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: So a little different ball of wax. 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and their report is more than like the three 39 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: sentences I write. 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: On a guy. 41 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: So I've seen my agent sometimes like when he gets clients, 42 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: they'll pass me a thing and be like, what do 43 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: you think? And I'll watch film with a guy, and 44 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: usually an NFL draft report is got the round grade 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: at the top. Wait number of colleges they were at 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: and then it is a significant write up, yeah, strengths, weaknesses, 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: overall review and it sometimes scheme fits. Sometimes it's two pages, 48 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: and so you're kind of like, oh, like this is 49 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: not just like let me whip this up real quick 50 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: in five minutes type of deal. And it's and they'll 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: have the games watched at least at a minimum of 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: three and sometimes it'll have like a little tab for 53 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: like situations watch like two minute versus blah blah blah. 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: We're all targets for if it's a receiver or all 55 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: sacks given up, you know, if it's an offensive lineman. 56 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: So it is a you know, like we talk about 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: talent evaluation, like it's just a different level of stuff 58 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: that these NFL teams are. 59 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it's a full time job. 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: I think that sometimes like people get confused, especially with 61 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: national media pun ins and like people that do this, 62 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: including I'm going to include myself in it. We're like 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: this is seasonal right as it is, this season ends 64 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: and for us was a little later this year is 65 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: when I can start to kind of dive into this 66 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: and then I can only watch so much. I only 67 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: have time for so much. Now granted, I'm putting an 68 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: effort into it. I'm trying to learn. But there are 69 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: people like you say that work for teams, scouts and whatnot, 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: that this is what they do all year round. And 71 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: there are some national people that do this too, like 72 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: Trevor Sikima is a great example. Like him and Conna 73 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: Rodgers won't beff two summers scouting. They'll start already looking 74 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: at tape for guys for next year. Like that is 75 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: part of their gig, is that? But like for me personally, 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: like that's why I'm just a guy, is like I'm 77 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: doing what literally anybody that's listening to this out there 78 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: can do. If you can find a couple hours in 79 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: a day to go watch a couple of YouTube cut ups, 80 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: find some all twenty two of these guys, watch every target. 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: If you're like psychotic enough to do that, then you 82 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: can do what I just did. I'm just a guy, right, 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a professional scout. I'm not involved in I'm 84 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: not involved in going to see them. I'm not involved 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: in the interview process. Like there are a few things 86 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: that working for a team kind of helps me with, 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: Like we get to go to the combine, see them 88 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: live there and the Senior Bowl and things like that. 89 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, so when you say like, I'm not just 90 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: a guy, I'm absolutely just a guy. 91 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: You're just a guy compared to NFL people, but compared 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: to the most people, you're you're starting to move up 93 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: in the world a little bit, right Like. And it's funny, 94 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: even like Trevor Sigama, who we have a lot of 95 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: respect for on the show. We have them all the time. 96 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: He's really smart dude. I think there's also just a 97 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: difference between like the level of stuff that he's watching, 98 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: like in terms of how deep he's going, and also 99 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: like the actual scouting stuff, like when you talk to 100 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: an NFL scout, like they know they know the prospect 101 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: in a different way. And I know we've mentioned that before, 102 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: but I just think it's an important thing. As we 103 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of conclude our Ticket to the Draft season here, 104 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: we got this episode and one more. It's just to 105 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: kind of it. It always I always find it helpful 106 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: to reflect on, you know, Like when a fan comes 107 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: up to me, it's like, oh, man, I think they're 108 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: really missed out on so and so right the player 109 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: X and I having watched the film, I'm like I 110 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: know why just from the film and then sometimes I've 111 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: like talked to people and I know a little bit 112 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: of inside baseball, but just these teams, and we've talked 113 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: about a nauseum. They are in a different stratosphere of 114 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: distilling information. They're watching way more film than most people. 115 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, this guy was watching at least three games, 116 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: sometimes six games on prospects. He goes back and rewatches 117 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: prospects right, and then in conjunction with that element, there's 118 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: also like investigative information on prospects. Right, He's talked to 119 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: prospects like it's really next level, you know what I 120 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: mean in terms of what these teams are doing, and 121 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you mean you still need to make good decisions with 122 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: that information, but it's just it's so much more comprehensive 123 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: than anything that we could do. And I think even 124 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: like Trevor Sikamo, who's doing it year round, could do 125 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: just because their access to the athletes is so much different. 126 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: It's so hard. 127 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: That's why there's not one guy on an NFL team 128 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: that's doing this. There a lot of scouts, there's a GM, 129 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: there's the assistant GM, there's heads ahead of scouting departments 130 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 3: like there's a ton and they're all getting together. Because 131 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: there's so much that goes into this, it's really really 132 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: hard for one person to do all of it, even 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: year round. The other thing I wanted to mention and 134 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: then we can get off of this and do Commander's 135 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: draft recap is that when we do this or when 136 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: I do this for this pod, and then when a 137 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: lot of people do this naturally, like the mel Kuipers, 138 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: the field Gates, whoever, right, Todd mcshay's, when they do it, 139 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: they're doing it with a zoomed out NFL lens, and 140 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: teams don't always look at prospects that way. They zoom 141 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: in and go scheme matters, personality, mat like things that 142 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: you look at when you're looking at it, as can 143 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: this guy make it in the NFL quote unquote. Other 144 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: teams are looking can they make it here in this situation, 145 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: in this scheme, with our coaching, with our culture, and 146 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: those are all things that we don't look at. I 147 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: don't look at that go into the evaluation process. And 148 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: there could be a player that is uber talented and 149 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: people are going nuts on TV on the broadcast. 150 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Why is this guy falling? Oh my god, he's my 151 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: best available. 152 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: He's going so far down and it's like, yeah, but 153 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: there are things that maybe he doesn't fit in with 154 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: teams that are would look for him. And that's not 155 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: just personality, that could be scheme, just straight up scheme. 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't fit in what we're trying to do. So 157 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: why would we bring him in and try and put 158 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: a square peg in a round hole. That's not going 159 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: to be good for him, It's not going to be 160 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: good for us. 161 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the other thing 162 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: that I would just kind of piggyback on that with 163 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: is as you move down the draft, there's a reason 164 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: that you see projected. You know, if I try to 165 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: project the top one hundred, that's relatively easy because you're 166 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: just saying these are going to be the top one 167 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: hundred players in the draft. But as you get down 168 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: into like that like one to two fifty kind of range, 169 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: it becomes really hard for the reason that you're talking about, right, 170 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: because people are going to say, oh, we like cornerback, 171 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: We like the fifteenth quarterback better than the tenth cornerback 172 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: because we think he fits what we want to do 173 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: defensively a little bit better. So all of a sudden 174 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: all that feels like a each but it's like that's 175 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: where the stylistic elements of the team become like they're 176 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: projected on full display. And you're still trying to draft 177 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: good football players obviously, but I think, but I think 178 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: that's something to consider. Like as you move down the 179 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: draft board, like the tiers get wider, there's more people 180 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: per tier, and it becomes harder to kind of identify 181 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: what the league's valuing at that moment of the draft. 182 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: Are they looking for, you know, a third down running back, 183 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: Are they looking for a special teams guy? And I 184 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: think those decisions, those those those decisions can be tough. 185 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I think we should do 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: our draft recap. And you know, I kind of I 187 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: consume a fair amount of draft content, Jason, And one 188 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: of the things that sticks out to me is it 189 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: seems like kind of nationally, the Commander's Draft is very 190 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: well supported, very well like kind of across the board. 191 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: CBS Sports gave it an A minus, AP News gave 192 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: it a B plus, Sports lillitat to give it a B. 193 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com B p f F P plus, The 194 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: Ringer B and there's a couple things I want to 195 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: touch on there. One, I think and a low volume 196 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: draft to get a B grade at a minimum is 197 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: pretty good. And then you couple that there's a I 198 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: forget the publication, but they basically aggregate all of the 199 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: all of the mock draft data put in an an 200 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: algorithm and then compare it to who was actually drafted. 201 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: And the Commanders in that model were the second highest 202 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: graded team. So obviously there's a lot of value in 203 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: this draft, and that's pretty exciting. 204 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So let me let me start off by saying 205 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: that this is really cool. We love it last year 206 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: when we got a bunch of a's across the board, 207 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: and I think, though, we're getting b's here, which is good. 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: That's above average, Right, that's a solid draft. 209 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Right. I think these grades sometimes vary on the sexiness 210 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: of the draft as well, right, Like, it's hard to 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: like not give an A to a team that drafts 212 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: like a potential game changing quarterback. But the other thing 213 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: that I wanted to say about this is none of 214 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: this matters, right, Like, these grades they're cool, Right, I'm 215 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: glad that the everybody thinks that this is a good 216 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: draft for us, and that everybody's happy about this draft naturally, 217 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: like that's cool, that's great, it makes me feel better, 218 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: but also like, these guys haven't played a down of 219 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: football in the NFL yet, so we don't know how 220 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: any of this is going to fall. And I have 221 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: seen sometimes here sometimes other places draft grades of c's 222 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: and d's and it ended up being a great. 223 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Draft for that class. 224 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: So this is not to say that we're going to 225 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: be worse than an A A B plus a B, 226 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: but we could be better than this. This could end 227 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: up being two back to back drafts that are fantastic 228 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: for this organization. 229 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the thing that sticks out to 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: me piggybacking out that point is that, like after me 231 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: doing a big board, me doing a horizontal board, and 232 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: like really kind of working through the process of the 233 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: first one hundred picks specifically, it gave me a much 234 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: stronger appreciation, quite honestly, for how Ap handled the draft. Right. 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: He kind of just took these players that had like 236 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: really high floors, that were very that were very safe, 237 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: very safe picks. Like the confidence level in Josh Connery 238 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: is extremely high. And I was talking to someone this 239 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: morning about, you know, like what about Josh Shimmons. And 240 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: I think you and I both from the tape had 241 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: higher grades on Josh Shimmons, Like he was he's a freak, right, 242 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: He's like this athletic unicorny moves really well. 243 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: But he might not play football. 244 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: He might not play football this year because he got 245 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: he's got he's got the torm potella. There's some you know, 246 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: behavioral stuff off the field that I don't know. I 247 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: don't not privy to what exactly that is. So is 248 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: it him you know, watching too much TV or is 249 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: it anything? Yeah? And then the other element too is 250 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: like the consistency of play when he was on the field. 251 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: He only played six games. You see the athletic flashes. 252 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: But when you compare the consistency of play to Josh 253 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: Connelly for example, who we picked at twenty nine, Connery 254 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: was incredibly consistent. And I think that's something that's extremely 255 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: valuable is knowing the floor of a player, to me, 256 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: especially when you're picking high, is extremely extremely important. So 257 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, like just to kind of flesh out this 258 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: discussion fully, it's like, you know, Will Johnson that comes 259 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: out that he's got some type of serious knee issue 260 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: that was that limited him last season and could limit 261 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: him moving forward. Yeah, he slips in the draft, and 262 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: then obviously Mike Green, then he slips in the draft. 263 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: The sexual assault allegations, which he acknowledged. He talked about 264 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: them at the combine, apparently talking with a couple of 265 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: scouts and a couple of gms, Like didn't handle those 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: interviews super well. So again, if that's going to be 267 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a red flag, like why 268 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: not go with a player like Connory? Who you know? 269 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing about Connory that is 270 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: so important to understand and in the landscape of those 271 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: other names that we just mentioned, is he is an 272 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: athletic freak. So not only is does he have a 273 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: very high floor, like a very consistent methodology of play 274 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: and is excellent value at twenty nine, but his ceiling 275 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: is also tremendously high. Right, he's six', five he's three, 276 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: eleven so little bit on the slender side for an offensive. 277 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: Tackle he's only twenty one years, Old he's going to 278 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: continue to. Grow it's got thirty four inch, Arms like 279 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: that's meeting all those threshold numbers that we talked about for. 280 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Tackles and he ran a five flat forty with one 281 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: of the fastest tens of the combine and a tremendous 282 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: First SO i just look at, That i'm, like this 283 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: dude has the athletic makeup to be significantly, better, like you, 284 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: know move up into that kind of top, twelve top 285 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: fifteen range of offensive linemen while also having a very 286 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: high floor and very good. Character AND i think obviously 287 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about these guys individually as we, 288 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: go BUT i think understanding that dynamic Around Josh connery 289 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: makes it kind of paints a really beautiful picture for 290 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: WHAT ap did in this draft and what the whole staff. 291 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: Did they just, said we want guys that we know 292 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: that we have very high confidence, in and that can 293 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: be more because of the athletic. 294 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: Profile the other thing THAT ap, did And i'm going 295 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: to steal a take From Jeremy, green friend of the pod, 296 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: HERE i texted. 297 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Him after the. 298 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: DRAFT i was, like just give me your, thoughts and 299 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: he said something that stuck out THE i was, like 300 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: oh my, GOSH i didn't even think about, that and 301 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: that was if if you look at your For, jeremy 302 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: it was his personal one mind matched up a little 303 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: bit where it was like our personal big board and tier, 304 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: right you have A tier one kind of offensive, lineman 305 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: and they were gone by the time you get to 306 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: pick twenty. 307 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: Nine and Then. 308 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Ap takes the. First for, me it would have been 309 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: the first out of the next tier of offensive linemen in. 310 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: Connery so then you see after. 311 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: That in the end of the first and into the 312 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: beginning of the second, round more offensive linemen start to drop. 313 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: Again so What Jeremy green said is Like ap was 314 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: the trendsetter, here, right he got on it Before you're 315 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: not panicking and, going oh my, gosh here comes to, 316 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: RUN i need to jump on the. Train he's the 317 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: one driving the. Train he's the one driving what the trends. 318 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: Are so he saw that when picked twenty, Nine, okay 319 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: we're already in the next. Tier so let's get the 320 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: best out of the SO i don't have to panic 321 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: and feel LIKE i have to trade, UP i have 322 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: to get a guy, here or it's letting the draft 323 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: fall to, you but also realizing you need to be 324 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: one step ahead of other. Teams and that's what he 325 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: Would that's what he. Did it looked like that's what he. 326 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: Did and when he When jeremy said that to. ME 327 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: i went back and looked at my board AND i was, 328 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: like oh my. Gosh he did that For, connory he 329 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: did that For, amos and he did that For Jalen 330 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: lane a little bit, too when you get into that. 331 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: Area so like he was the one leading the charge 332 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: when it came to, oh here comes a. Run, yeah 333 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: it was started by the commanders when you go back 334 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: and look at. 335 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: It. Yeah AND i think that's a great point brought 336 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: up by you And jeremy and that like if you're 337 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: looking at guys that were going to be fringe first round, 338 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: players so Like connorly to me was like that tier, 339 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: four so like you can go at, thirty you could 340 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: go at. Fifty there's kind of that nice range of 341 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: where he could. Go but Like connorly to me is 342 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: in that cluster of first round players like kind of 343 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: rite on that teetering, board and so getting him there 344 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: is tremendous. Value and THEN i think the next offensive 345 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: lineman Is Ossie, tripelle who to me is in a 346 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: distinctly different, category, right kind of to your. Point and 347 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: then you Get Anthony, belton who's kind of in That trpillo, category, 348 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Right and then you Go Charles grant From william And, 349 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: mary who's more of a developmental guy Than, okay that's 350 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: three guys right, there and then there's another drop off 351 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: To Jalen, travis who's kind of in that next. Year 352 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: and so if you, said, hey we really needed to 353 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: get an offensive tackle in the, draft you're looking and, saying, well, 354 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: shoot Like Anthony Belton Jalen travis are kind of the next. 355 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Like so one of those guys will probably be at 356 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of the, second high, third one of those 357 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: guys will be at the bottom of the, third early. 358 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Fourth we're not picking again until one twenty, eight you, 359 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: know after sixty. One we're not picking into one twenty. 360 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Eight and so if you dropped An Anthony belton at sixty, 361 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: one that's a, reach you know WHAT i. Mean that's 362 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: and so. Understanding you. Know Dan quinn said this when 363 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: we did the interview with, him you know, Me Brian, 364 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: colbert we talked to him before the. Draft he, said 365 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: one of ap superpowers is understanding the layout of the, 366 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: landscape like understanding where the value resides and like so he, said, 367 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: like as a, COACH i get to watch the players 368 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: AND i love all of, them So i'll come to 369 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: him and be, like, MAN i really love PLAYER. X 370 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: i JUST i can't get enough of. Him and THEN ap, says, 371 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: oh that's good to. Know BUT ap knows like he 372 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: is going to be picked in the fifth, round so 373 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a first round. Player but we 374 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: can kind of wait and find this guy That Dan 375 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: quinn loves later in the. Draft and, that to me 376 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: is one of the hardest things to, do is being 377 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: able to separate your big board from what you perceive 378 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: the league's big board to. Be AND i think you 379 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: just did a really excellent job of. That and Again 380 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: connorly kind of exemplifies. That. 381 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Absolutely and just to put that into, perspective we 382 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: were watching the draft together AND i had a hard 383 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: time getting out of my own head and my own 384 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: biases for players THAT i, liked And i'd sit there and, go, 385 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: OH i really want this. 386 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: GUY i really want this. GUY i really want this, 387 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: guy and he would go two rounds, later and, like 388 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: that's not a knock my. Evaluation that's a great. 389 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: Point it's just That i'm sitting here thinking only of 390 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: myself and my big, board And i'm not thinking, that, 391 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 3: well do The titans need a player like. This SO 392 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: i didn't sit there and, go, OH i can just. 393 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: Wait i'm just sitting there looking at my. Board i'm, like, 394 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: oh he's right, there he's right. There he's right, there 395 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: not considering what other. 396 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Teams want or, need. 397 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: Want, need or have history of, doing. 398 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: How they prioritize stuff like it's and when you think 399 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: about it in that, way it makes it even more, 400 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: impressive like having gone through this. Process and again it's 401 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: it's a fraction of what they, do as we talked 402 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: about at the top of the, show but it's it's 403 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: just for draft. Nerds AND i count myself as THAT 404 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: i account you as that it's an impressive thing to 405 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: be patient to take best player, available predict where the 406 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: draft's going to, go and make some of these. Decisions 407 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: and like you, said it doesn't mean they're going to 408 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: be great, pros but it leads to great value throughout the. 409 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: Draft AND i think that leads us really nicely to 410 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: tray a most quarterback From Old. Miss and there was 411 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of other good football players on the, board 412 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: Like Shavon novel was one THAT i know a lot 413 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: of fans were kind of climbing For fred mentioned him 414 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: on the show and the thing that stuck out to 415 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: me about him was when you Compare Shavone revel to 416 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Tre amos as an, example Tree, amos you know you 417 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: get him. More he's a better player right. Now revel 418 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: is more of a projection right and there are, people 419 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: there are teams that draft strictly on. Projection like if 420 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: you look at The Arizona cardinals, draft there's a lot 421 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: of Like Walter Nolan birch like, that we think these 422 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: guys could be high, ceiling high, ceiling but there's also 423 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: a relatively low floor Trey, amos high, floor high ceiling. 424 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Prospect and If i'm A, gm, like that's WHAT i. 425 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: WANT i want some level of security and That i've 426 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: seen him do it year on, year multiple different. Programs 427 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: i've seen him play, Man i've seen him play. Zone 428 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: i've seen him be A he's not a great, tacker 429 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: but a willing. Tackler he's got the ball skills we. 430 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: Want as An ALL sec first team, sixteen pass defense 431 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: has led THE sec last, year so THE sec known 432 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: for their defense against good. 433 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: Offenses he shared. 434 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: It, yeah and you compare that To revel and. EVERYONE 435 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: i Love revel, Right but it's important to remember. That 436 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: And i'm going to talk about learning something from making my, 437 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Board like the certainty of What Tree amos is is 438 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: more valuable than the what if of What Shavone revelt could. 439 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: Be even THOUGH i think they're both going to be good, 440 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: players or they have the potential to be good, Players 441 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: i'm way more confident That amos is going to, be 442 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: at least in year one a better. Player BUT i 443 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: think then you look at the, profile and this is 444 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Something ap said when he came in and talked to 445 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: us after The connolly. Pick he, said you know the 446 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: coaches were, aligned the you, know the front office was, 447 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: aligned the scouts were. Aligned AND i think this is 448 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: one THAT i don't think about, enough is the analytics 449 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: department was. Aligned like he fit the physical profile from 450 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: a production a movement skill set that means he can 451 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: be a good. 452 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: Pro, yeah if you look at it like a spider, 453 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: graph you know those like expand, out the spokes go, 454 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: Out it's almost Like amos hits all those that are out, 455 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: there so it's your most well, rounded, Right AND i 456 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 3: don't want to harp on this too, much but again 457 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: we're talking about Revel amos was. There there's a couple 458 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: other cornerbacks that were there that could possibly. Go this 459 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: is a, tier and now you're at the point Where 460 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: ap is picking the one that he wants out of the. 461 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: Tier he's not waiting for the run to. Start and 462 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: then HE'S i don't want to say, stuck but he's 463 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: kind of forced to pick out of a group that 464 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: maybe he didn't. 465 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: Want. 466 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Right want's a wrong, word but you know WHAT i. 467 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: Mean they're pulling items out of the grocery basket and 468 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: so it's, like, oh, well instead of carrots and, BROCCOLI 469 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: i have to choose between. That it's, like oh, NO 470 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: i got peas in. Here BUT i don't know WHY 471 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: i use vegetables as an, Example but that's the. Point 472 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: is like before that quarterback run from this tier, Went 473 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: AP's grabbing the one that he, wants right BECAUSE i. 474 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Think because IF i remember, CORRECTLY i Think revel And 475 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Benjamin morris that's. It, yeah benjaminas all went after. Right you, 476 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: know so a. 477 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: Good players all in that, round, right and they they 478 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: all could be great, players, right and who knows of 479 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: those is going to be quote unquote the best out of? 480 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: Them but the commanders in ap was able to grab 481 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: the one that they. Wanted they weren't forced in any. 482 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Direction, yeah, Absolutely and, again LIKE i think that's one 483 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: of the REASONS i get so excited about the draft is, 484 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: like SOMETIMES i Think i've told you this. Before Sometimes 485 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: i'm watching the team's draft or another team THAT i 486 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: am a fan, of for, example and a name will 487 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: come up on the. Board i'm, like, AH i hate. 488 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: THAT i hate, That like that doesn't feel like the 489 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: right kind of fit for, here, Right, Yeah AND i 490 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: didn't feel that way with any of the, Picks like 491 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: some of them were surprising to, me Like Jalen. Lane 492 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: will talk about him in a, second like they're a 493 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: little bit. Surprising but when you, think like WHEN i 494 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: went back and looked at my, NOTES i was, like 495 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: he's a good football, player go watch him. Film you're, 496 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: like he's excellent at what he. Does sense for, Here, 497 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: yeah it makes sense for what we're doing. Here AND 498 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: i think that the reasoning and the logic behind all 499 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: the picks really. Important you were talking about runs and 500 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the more interesting moments in the 501 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: draft for me because obviously they're picking out one twenty 502 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: eight With Jalen lane and right before, that there's, LIKE 503 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: i want to, say four edge rushers that go off the. 504 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: Board it Was David, walker it Was sorel From texas 505 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: the edge. Rusher there was two other guys THAT i 506 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: was very high on at the moment that they get. 507 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: Drafted Jalen travis is the guy at won twenty seven 508 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: of The, colts and you're kind of, like, oh AND 509 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: i remember, looking you, know Because i'm kind of following 510 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: on my phone and checking my board at home While i'm. 511 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: WAITING i was, LIKE i don't, know there's no edge 512 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: rusher here THAT i would, take you, Know and so 513 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: what becomes the? Priority AND i love the fact that 514 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: they Drafted Jalen lane because of this tremendous athletic. Profile but, 515 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: again the profile is, good but the film supports. It 516 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: you guy who catches the football, well who's, competitive who's, 517 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: tough who's a confident football, player he'll, block he's the 518 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: son of a, coach you, know like all those things 519 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of stack up and you, say, wow like this 520 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: is the right fit for The. Commanders he fits, that 521 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: especially teams. Nee BUT i also think he fits a 522 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: role in the, offense like getting a guy who can 523 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: push the top off or stretch you horizontally open up 524 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: windows quickly for this passing. Game The Cliff kingsbury cultivates 525 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: is pretty. Cool so that's. 526 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: Exciting, yeah if you want to hear more About, Connor 527 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: lee And amos are two previous pods before, this we 528 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: deep dive into. 529 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: Them, yes but we're going. 530 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: To deep dive in the lane here in the next two. 531 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: Picks So Jalen, lane the wide receiver From Virginia. Tech 532 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: you were talking about all the things that he can. 533 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: Do do you have his measurables in front of you 534 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: that you can BECAUSE i think he was four to three. 535 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Four fourty four three. Four he had eleven foot broad, 536 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: Jump he had a forty one inch. Vertical he had 537 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: A i think it was a one five oh ten yard, 538 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: split which is very. Fast he had a sub seven 539 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: like a significantly under sub seven three, cone which is 540 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: kind of the standard, there kind of like you're if 541 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: it's under four five as a forty that's kind of 542 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: the same. Mark he had a four one two twenty yard, 543 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: shuttle so you're five to ten, Five so all those 544 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: numbers are, tremendous really really, tremendous and you're looking for, 545 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: again like in the fourth round to get a guy 546 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: who Profiles like we were talking on The Command center 547 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: podcast about how closely that comped To, santana you, know pretty. 548 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: CLOSE i think it was a bit more first. 549 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: Round but, yeah, Yeah santana WAS i think it was 550 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: a four to three to, one but he had the 551 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: four three six that he ran to so they averaged 552 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: the times or. Whatever so obviously he's you, know three 553 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: hundreds off the time. 554 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: He's had a four to. Eight by the, way let's not, them. 555 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah but. Nobody so they the way they did, 556 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: it they averaged his two. Times, yeah and so they 557 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: gave him a four to three to one or. Whatever 558 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: it was the final mark that he, got which is incredibly. 559 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Sissy and then he had like a little bit over 560 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: a FORTY i think it was a forty three inch vertical. 561 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Jump his, story the way he tells it is like 562 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: he you, know like they didn't have enough rungs on the. 563 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: On the they discussed. 564 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: It, yeah and he didn't do a broad jump because 565 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: he doested so. Well but that's kind of the athlete 566 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: here you're talking. About they move a little bit. Differently you. 567 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: Know tanna was elite from a suddenness lower body, Standpoint 568 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: but there is a little bit of that Too Jalen 569 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: lane in terms of how he breaks, tackles his ability to. 570 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Accelerate he doesn't look fast like his turnovers on, fast 571 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: but you can see he's a very, powerful strong runner 572 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: moving down the. 573 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: Field one of the things is, like, well if all 574 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: of this is true about, him why did he fall 575 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: to where he, did why was he taken back here 576 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: instead of the first or second or third? 577 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: Round and why did he get back into the fourth? 578 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Round and one of the. 579 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: Things THAT i like about taking players like this is 580 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: that sometimes you can get caught up and watching film 581 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: about realizing what the context is of the player you're, 582 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: Watching and one of those Is Virginia tech, itself, Right so, 583 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: like that's tough being a wide receiver out Of Virginia. 584 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: Tech you mentioned this on The Command center show that 585 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: everyone can check out On, Thursday but talk to me 586 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: a little bit about What Virginia tech did and how 587 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: this could have played a little bit into a sneaky 588 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: pit For washington where they. 589 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: Go, YEAH i definitely think it's kind of. This it's 590 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: a strange offense to watch because it's like they kind 591 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: of want to be a running have their quarterback run the. 592 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: Football he's not a great, passer you. KNOW i think 593 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: he's actually coming in for mini. Camp but he's a tremendous. 594 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Athlete he's six,' three he's. Two twenty he ran us 595 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: a four. Five forty he's got a forty. Inch vertical 596 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: he like he might, play receiver. YOU know, i mean 597 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: like that's like how athletic. He is but they didn't 598 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: really have a. Strong identity, it's, like here we're gonna 599 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: run a. Little harpo we're gonna run all of this 600 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: jet run stuff to. The perimeter the backside receiver is just. 601 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Gonna chill and it just it wasn't very well constructed or. 602 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: Thought OUT and i think it was obviously if you're 603 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: a running Back Like, basil tooton like you're gonna be 604 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: very productive there because they're kind of a run. First 605 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: TEAM but i think some of the stuff that suck 606 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: out to me was it just did not provide a 607 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: great opportunity to let the receivers. Be successful like there 608 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: was another guy THAT that i think, It, was uh 609 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: there's another receiver THERE that i, was WATCHING and i, 610 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: just like it's so hard to quantify what you are 611 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: because you're not getting that. Many opportunities you're not on 612 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: the field, that much like you're not involved in the play. 613 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: That MUCH but i will SAY when i was watching 614 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: these other this, other receiver like the guy that took 615 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: out to me was Was. Was lane because he's, he's 616 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: willing he's willing, the block, he's physical he makes great 617 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: catches down, The field he's got good, body CONTROL and 618 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: i do think his route running nuance was way under 619 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: sold At At virginia tech and hopefully gets to show. 620 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: MORE that I actually i'm going to go back and 621 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: Watch His senior bowl TAPE because i think he had 622 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: some bunch of one on ONES and i just didn't 623 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: register that he. Was THERE like i Remember watching Tesla 624 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: And pat bryant and, you know all these different, You Know, 625 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: kyle williams all these different receivers that were getting more 626 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: national Narrative PUB and i think that's the OTHER thing 627 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: i just want to point out, here too Is we 628 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: JASON and i are beholden to like. National lists so 629 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Like If jalen lane's not on the main list that we're, 630 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: looking at LIKE the pff LIST Or espn top, YOU 631 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: know i think it's top TWO Fifty Nfl. 632 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: Daniel, Jeremia, yeah like we. 633 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: Have a hard time tracking these. Guys DOWN so i 634 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: tracked this guy down kind of, by accident, you know 635 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: because he wasn't on. The LIST but i just he's 636 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: still a really good, football player and just because he 637 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: wasn't in the national dialogue as much as some of these, 638 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: other guys it wasn't. A story don't let that diminish 639 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: what he is as a. Football. 640 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: Player yeah the other thing is that sometimes we miss 641 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: these guys because you're going to be a part of 642 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: the team in a way that isn't necessarily the way 643 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: that we look at it. Right away and the best 644 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: example of that is. Special, Teams right he's going to 645 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: be a special teamer here and he's going to be good. At, 646 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: It right like twenty twenty four last Year the all 647 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: acc third team as a, return, specialist right so he 648 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: was electric with the ball in. His hands tanna talked 649 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: about It because tanner was a. Return specialist talked. About, 650 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: him yep they did some returns IN. The nfl and 651 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: one of The things tanna talks about on McMann, center 652 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: pod which is out, right now is, that look coaches 653 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: say to you catch, the ball get to miss and 654 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: we want a first down or even to get some 655 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: missing ten or that's what, he says ten or, twenty Yards, 656 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: right like that's what we want out. 657 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: Of you flip the. 658 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: Field position even if we go three, and out you're 659 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: benefiting us in the. Return game that's what this kid. 660 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: Can do and one of THE reasons i know we 661 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: drafted him for, this reason not just, this reason but 662 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: this reason being a key part is THAT when espn 663 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: was doing, their broadcast they, cut away you know sometimes 664 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: hear their draft room and on this cutaway in. This 665 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: pick you can check. This out you can watch it. 666 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: On YouTube, Izzo Man, larry izzo our special. Teams coach he. 667 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: Was excited how often do you see the special teams 668 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 3: coach in a draft room in the fourth round dapping 669 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: people up with a huge cheese on, his face just 670 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: like excited as all. GET out i bet you he's 671 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: in this, room saying this guy is going to do 672 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: something good for us immediately. Right away he's going to 673 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: add to that special team's threat that. We have because, 674 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: Guess what washington was great at special teams. Last year 675 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: it was a big part of why we. 676 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Were, Successful yeah i'm really excited to see that role 677 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: and again just to get more dangerous and those fats 678 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: of the game is going to be. Extremely, important yeah, 679 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: you Know. Be mitch it the same thing, about him 680 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: like he gets north and south. Right now and you 681 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: watch that he had a Return versus marshall that was. 682 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: Really incredible he kind of like caught it in traffic 683 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: and then, you know broke a tackle and then you 684 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: see the lower body strength and you see. The Speed, 685 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: so heah obviously he's got to earn that job and 686 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: show that he can do it AT the. Nfl level but. 687 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 3: But getting that, in here even, that mentality the know 688 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: how of this is special teams is Important and i'm 689 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: going to contribute to it in the Sense of i'm 690 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: coming in here knowing. 691 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: It's important i'm going to grind. 692 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: For it and again Back, to tanna, he, said like, 693 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: you know somebody that catches the ball like that gotta 694 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: have a little, Screw loose like it's a certain mentality 695 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: that you got to have to play that position as 696 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: a return and and he's. 697 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: Got, it no. 698 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: That's RIGHT and i just go back to like do 699 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: you remember his family when we were at the at. 700 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: The combine do you? Remember them so he ran his 701 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: forty and there was a section of fans like directly to. 702 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Our right, oh shoot that. Was him that. Was him, 703 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: OH yes i remember going. Crazy, excited yeah it looks like, 704 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: a brother maybe. An uncle we're standing up and just. 705 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Remember there let's go eight three and just so passionate, 706 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: about him and if he has a fraction, of that 707 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: like we've got an absolute STETT and i think, we 708 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: do so that he's a really, exciting pick especially at one. 709 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Twenty eight and then let's move On To caine madrano 710 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: Right from. UCLA's ruined that's. Exactly RIGHT and i was 711 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: really high, on him very very high. ON him i 712 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: think he was like my third linebacker or. FOURTH linebacker 713 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: i don't remember EXACTLY where i had him in my top, 714 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and so let's talk ABOUT why i had 715 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: him in my top one hundred and, so basically he. 716 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Plays linebacker he's a converted wide receiver now. Plays linebacker 717 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: and one of THE things i look FOR when i 718 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: evaluate linebackers now More than i've ever looked for, them 719 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: before is this their ability, to move like, their, movements 720 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: skills like their ability to open, their hips, run, cover, 721 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: flexibility dexterity and coverage because now so many teams just 722 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: try to stress the linebacker positions so much with these 723 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: throws over the. Middle field so to get Guys like 724 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: sweesssinger who was who was a thirty third, pick overall 725 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: and You know kane on the same team and watching 726 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: them cover. Was tremendous so his coverage, skills early like 727 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: he can cover. Wide receivers he kind of lines up 728 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: in the slot as that star. Linebacker position he can carry. 729 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: Receivers vertically he does a great job in zone coverage 730 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: of kind of feeling. The space you can see his 731 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: like receiver background because he kind of understands concepts and 732 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: where the ball should. Be going he played middle linebacker, 733 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: for them like when they were kind. Of working ola 734 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: femi oldeisio back to defensive end in. Certain roles he 735 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: played defensive end in certain roles like At The. Shrine 736 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: bowl he had a couple interceptions in one. On ones 737 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: he had a couple of sacks as a. Pass rusher 738 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: he's got this kind of crazy suddenness and flexibility that 739 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: reminds me a. 740 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: Little bit let me double click real quick one the 741 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: interceptions in one on ones From The. Shrine, bowl yeah 742 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: because we talk about this when we were down At The. Senior, 743 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: bowl yes when you have in the one on one 744 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: drills with linebackers and, running backs it is impossible almost 745 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: for a linebacker to cover the running back because they 746 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: line the running back lines up right in. 747 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: The middle of. 748 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: The field he can go. 749 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: Any direction there's no, leverage help you have no idea 750 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: what route that's gonna this guy is, gonna run and he. 751 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: Has a whole field in front. Of him it is. 752 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: Nearly impossible and what you're looking at we talked, about 753 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: this what you're looking for with a linebacker in this 754 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: position is just can you how are? 755 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: You, moving yeah more, than anything we don't expect you 756 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: to make a. Play here my guy, made. 757 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Plays, made plays and it was like and the usually 758 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: when the linebacker makes, an interception there's like a bad 759 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: pi like they're pulling the running. Backs down his feet 760 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: and his hips were. So good he didn't touch. The 761 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: back he just undercut the. Ball TWICE and i just, 762 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: was like oh, My gosh like that's, that's incredible that's incredible. 763 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: Skill set like we were watching a clip For The 764 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: command center show which comes Out on thursday on the, 765 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: YouTube channel where their offense IS RUNNING gt so guard. 766 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: Counter pull he's the. Left linebacker he's fitting on the 767 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: guard that's pulling the kick. Him out they end up 768 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: pulling the ball and throw a screen to the offensive 769 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: or to the defensive right, excuse me on the very 770 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: Far hash so he's like one of the farthest guys away. 771 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: From thirty five. 772 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: Yards, away yeah he's engaged in. A block so there's 773 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: a corner or, a safety, a linebacker, defensive end a, 774 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: defensive tack two d, defensive tackles and probably other safety 775 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: that are close to the ball. From him and he 776 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: tears out of there like a streak of lightning and 777 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: is the first guy TO the i don't know how 778 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: HE got i don't know how he got there that 779 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: fast and tries to punch the. Ball out he had 780 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: three first he had three forced fumbles or two forced 781 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: fumbles and two interceptions something. Like that great ball production 782 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: gets the. 783 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: Ball out, so yeah you really got to check out 784 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: the Breakdown On command center because it's something. 785 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: TO see i think when we were. 786 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: Watching it when The show fred even goes where did he? 787 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: Come from you are not. Expecting it it's like like 788 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: the flash out of the side of the frame comes out. 789 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: Of, NOWHERE yeah i don't know how he. DID it 790 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: i want to see the all twenty. 791 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: Ten and so that's that's the athlete, you're, Seeing right, 792 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: and again he ran the fastest forty for a linebacker at, 793 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: the combine so four. Four seven and think, about This 794 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Like jeremy chin was like a four. Four five, you 795 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: know he had the fastest three cone for a linebacker on. 796 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: The combine it was like six nine six, nine five so. Sub, 797 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: seven again that's like a lead pass rusher, three cone 798 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: like he just and it all tracks with what he 799 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: does on. The field that all tracks with what he 800 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: is on. THE field i think the thing is that 801 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: he's a converted. Wide receiver so even though, he's physical 802 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: like taking, on blocks he uses his. Hands well he 803 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: undercuts stuff like when he's playing. Defensive end you can 804 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: tell he's a problem for offensive lineman when he has. 805 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: To tackle it's a little bit hit. Or miss it's 806 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. Or miss and so, You know craig's 807 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: still work on. 808 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: His, form yes. 809 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: That's actually right in short. Of it and if there's 810 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: a place to work on. Your form It's With, Bobby 811 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: Wagner With, bobby wagner it's With dan Quinn Ye Ken. 812 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: Norton junior like all those dudes know how, to tackle 813 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: and they're going to get. Him right and, You Know 814 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: Ken nortan junior coached him our linebacker coach here coached HIM, 815 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: at ucla so he knows him. Really well he knows 816 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: what that. Kid's about and, you know just kind of a. 817 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Cool story like apparently ten picks before they, Selected him 818 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: caine Texted coach norton and, was like come get me on, 819 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: the pick and here, He is AND so i love it. The, 820 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: Connection again he's got to work on, his tackling got 821 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: to get a little bit more physical as a as 822 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: a space. Tackling player but and he's he's in his 823 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: first time is going to be. ON teams i FEEL 824 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: like i had TO say i hype him up all. 825 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: This way his first time is going to be. On 826 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: teams he's going to be excellent in. That role but, 827 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: holy cow man does he do a great Job of 828 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: like his ceiling is. 829 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 3: Incredibly, high yeah he just needs to become best Friends 830 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: With Bobby. Bobby wagner he carry's luggage around, He, needs 831 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: oh would you like? 832 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: Some? 833 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: Chipotle, right like whatever, you, Need like i'll run and 834 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: get it. For you Just Shadow bobby wagner and get 835 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: that form that technique because the onet to, is, there 836 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: right the, desires there the grit, is there the athleticism. 837 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: Is there he was. 838 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: The all he was part of the, All Ten all, 839 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: Big ten, sorry defense when thirteen kid knows how to. 840 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: Play defense he had seventy two tackles. Last year eleven 841 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: of them were for. A loss he had one point. 842 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: Five sacks but here's here's where it. Gets fun on three, 843 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 3: forrest fumbles one, fumble recovery four, pass breakup so he's 844 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: easily could have. 845 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: Been INTERCEPTIONS and i think. 846 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: He had two interceptions for return. For, touchdown yes so 847 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: what do we always? 848 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: Hear, here yeah ball, is, Life right protect the ball, 849 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: on offense go get the ball. On defense we got 850 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 3: a guy here that just seems having that for going after. 851 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 3: That ball so that adds what they want. To hear 852 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: and then the other thing that we saw a lot 853 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: of last year that we get with him. This year, team, 854 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 3: Captain right it's that type. Of mentality he was twenty 855 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen CAPTAIN. For ucla so you're bringing in a 856 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: guy that, Loves. 857 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: Football yeah loves ball, and leadership leadership yet love, and 858 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: again who knows what he's going, to be but the 859 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: ceiling is. SKY high i think the floor is. VERY 860 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: high i think he could be a specially seams contributor. 861 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: Right away but him in Like that jeremy chin roll 862 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: like where he's kind of just like that kind of 863 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: moving all over the defense is going to be. 864 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: Really, interesting yeah let me just bring that up real, 865 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: quick too because he is kind of a tweeter right 866 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: when his like is gonna be safety is you're gonna 867 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: be kind of a linebacker and. 868 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: A little bit of it like? 869 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: Who, Cares right because we're getting to that point NOW 870 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 3: where nfl offenses are running these guys that they can 871 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: line up as anything. Your debos you don't know if 872 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 3: they're coming out of the backfield catching, the ball like 873 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: you're getting tight ends that are built different than they used. 874 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: To be they can they break out for wide receivers 875 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: then come in a block like. You're getting your offenses 876 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: are trying to Have A swiss army knife on there 877 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: where it's hard for the defense to match up, to 878 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 3: them and they're trying to move them and put them 879 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 3: in positions where the defense gets all confused because there's. 880 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: A mismatch you put a Guy like kane, out there 881 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 3: and there's, your, answer right, he, Is like i'll. Shadow, 882 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: whoever right it doesn't matter if this tight end is 883 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: going to run a rout or he's going to stand 884 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 3: in block or he's going. TO run i can, handle, It, 885 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 3: right like that's. My answer i'm kind Of a swiss 886 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 3: army knife. 887 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: And defense and it's weird because now they've got a 888 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: bunch of guys, like that, you know They've got they've got, 889 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: You Know, Tyler owens They've Got, Dominice campton They've Got, 890 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: ben nickel who WAS a udfa last year who's like, 891 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: this big long safety. Type guy They've, got kin and 892 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: They've got harris who they brought In From new orleans and. Free, 893 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: agency like they've just got a bunch of dudes who could. 894 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: Do that and it's flexible in. 895 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 3: The field you don't have to worry about substituting in, that, Way, right, 896 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 3: like oh here comes, a package we got a substitute. 897 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 2: Real, quick no you got guys that can handle. 898 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: Any, Situation yeah so it'll be interesting. TO see i 899 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: really can't wait to watch him when he gets on the. 900 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: Grass here how they like what his role is, because 901 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: AGAIN like, i said he played a little bit of, 902 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: edge rusher played, middle linebacker played, will linebacker. Played star 903 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: so where's his best. Best usage i'm really curious where 904 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: he Finds us forever home. 905 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 3: And our last pick for us in the twenty TWENTY 906 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: Five nfl draft was ONE that i, didn't watch to, 907 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: be honest really didn't. WATCH him i didn't watch. Him 908 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 3: before you want to talk About. 909 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: H Yeah Jacorey, crosskey merritt running Back from arizona really 910 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: probably better known for his Time In. 911 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: New mexico he played only one Game, for arizona. 912 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: And, so interesting interesting. To watch so obviously watched the 913 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: one Game. From arizona and you see a guy who 914 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to, Articulate this i'm gonna try my best to. 915 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: Do it who just gets how to play your running, 916 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: Back right so like there's sometimes you watch running Back 917 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: and i'm gonna run. To darkness i'm running in to 918 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: the back of the. Offensive line unless the hole is, 919 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: Right there i'm not going to make. THE cut i 920 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: lose some creativity at the second level and he just. Gets. 921 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: It man his ability to press to the front side 922 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: kind of snake it back against, the grain find the whole. 923 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: Push vertical he's got great moves, in space not like 924 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: going a jitterbuggy, to death but like kind of a one. 925 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: Cut slash he's strong enough to. Break tackles and again 926 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: played one Game, in arizona but rush for over one 927 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: hundred yards in. That game he WAS The MVP offensive 928 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: mvp Of The. Shrine bowl he had the best deceleration 929 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: metrics from the LIKE the gps and the pads At The. 930 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: Shrine bowl and then he was an over a thousand 931 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: yard Rusher At new mexico and had a lot of. 932 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: Explosive runs so, TO me, i know he's maybe not 933 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: not everybody watched, him obviously but he has this tremendous. 934 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: Skill set he ran a one to five to, oh 935 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: ten which is like, Insanely fast like that's what, you know, 936 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: Crazy burst That's What jalen, lane rang you KNOW what? 937 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: I mean like. The burst he's got a forty inch 938 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: vertical for a guy who's over two, hundred pounds two 939 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: hundred and almost two hundred and, Ten pounds like, it's 940 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: crazy and his running style is so it's he's such a. 941 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: Good runner he's such a. Good run he's got to 942 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: work on his protection a, little BIT but i just 943 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 1: think about him getting touches and he has the ability 944 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: to maximize. Dirty runs and so even though he's a seventh, 945 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: round pick he does feel like a guy because he's 946 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: so skilled at running. The football, his vision, his burst 947 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: his explosiveness through the whole seems like he's like kind 948 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: of a dark horse handed it to make the team 949 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: and play. 950 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 3: Some, minutes yeah in twenty, twenty four like we, were 951 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 3: saying only one Game, With arizona there's wasn't. 952 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: An injury. That's why that's not why you. 953 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: Didn't play THERE'S some NC double a like eligibility STUFF 954 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: that i don't know all, the details but it wasn't 955 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 3: like he. 956 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: Was injured he's not the kind. 957 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: Of messed them up too because he he, was eligible 958 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: and that was the problem is he apparently. Was eligible 959 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: they kind of made. A misruling too bad, for him. 960 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: But great, FOR us. I guess but so he only played. 961 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: One game that one game was against this former Team In. New, 962 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 3: mexico yeah thirteen carries one hundred and six yards and. 963 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 3: A touchdown that's eight point two yards. Per carry pretty 964 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: darn good in. His, debut again you said he was 965 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 3: At The shrine bowl one game in the last year 966 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: and he comes out and, He's like i'm the best, 967 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 3: player here which has been. 968 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: It's crazy to, think about like how hard that? Would. 969 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: Be, Yeah absolutely but The reason i'm bringing that up 970 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: IS because i wanted to talk about the mentality of, 971 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: this Kid, right like these are things that we are 972 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 3: not privy to and we don't get to talk about 973 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: until this time of. The year but how much you 974 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 3: bet in an interview process, with him or when our 975 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: scouts talked to, his friends, family members coaches that, they 976 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 3: went this guy has been sitting on, the sidelines itching 977 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 3: to get. Out there it's been eating. Them up but, 978 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: guess what he. Loves it he, stays ready, he's working 979 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 3: he's getting better even though he's not touching. 980 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 2: The field he. Loves football and what does that sound like? 981 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: To you, COMMANDER man a commander right, like fully a 982 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: command like ready. To Go so i've been, hurt before 983 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: missed a lot. Of time it is incredibly incredibly hard to, 984 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: stay motivated and so for him to play the first 985 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: game and then not play again for the rest of 986 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: the year and then come out In An all star 987 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: game and. 988 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: DO that, I mean i think you also Are The 989 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: all star. 990 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: Could we could give all sorts, of stats but that 991 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: to me speaks volumes about how this kid. Is wired 992 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: and when you go Watch The new, mexico tape like 993 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: he's a, special runner he's a. TALENTED runner i. 994 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: Feel like this guy. 995 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: Probably IS if i had graded him just on twenty 996 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: twenty three and watched, IT previously i probably would have 997 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 3: had him in the third or. 998 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: Fourth round that's what it. Feels, like yeah that's what it. 999 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 3: Looks like, but yeah so twenty twenty Three In, new 1000 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 3: mexico when he did play, twelve games he played there 1001 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: over one. Thousand yards this was. What's insane that. Stands out. 1002 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: Seventeen touchdowns that's a nuts number for. Twelve games, so 1003 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 3: yeah you're getting an athletic playmaker who is, a grinder 1004 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 3: who's fault had the fight for where he. Is here 1005 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 3: so he's got that mentality won in. The room, and 1006 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 3: yeah like the, seventh round you're not saying that they're 1007 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: going to make the, team necessarily but you feel like 1008 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 3: he's got a good. 1009 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: Shot and all the last, four picks, you Know, So Tremos, 1010 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Lane, cane maderno And Uh Tory krosskey merritt all 1011 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: had some big adversities in. Their career, so like, You 1012 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: know tremos Transferred From Middle tennessee State to, Tennessee Right 1013 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: Uh Jalen, uh, No, SORRY trey I said tremos Or 1014 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: so tremos he Went To Raging, cajun alabama old, Mess Right, 1015 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: Jaylen Lane Middle tennessee State To. Virginia tech so like 1016 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: guys that had to work and fight to get where. 1017 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: They're At kane maderno had a, position, Switch right like 1018 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: what are you? Talking about like he. Switched positions he's 1019 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: a linebacker now he's becomes, team captain like was a. 1020 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: Wide, receiver, yeah big, big. 1021 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: Switch unbelievable and then the merits adversity to go from 1022 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: a small school try to move up AND before i 1023 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 1: think he was out of School Before. New, mexico also, 1024 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: so guy they looking, at that there's four dudes right 1025 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: there that, love football that want to be. The best 1026 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: AND that's i think what's cool, About, This right. 1027 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 3: They're probably, self motivators are probably. SELF starters, i mean 1028 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: look Back. At jaden it's one of the reasons They 1029 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 3: love jayda like the adversity he had to GET to 1030 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 3: lsu two Be the, heisman, Winner right like that was 1031 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 3: part of what they loved, about him was, the mentality 1032 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 3: how he matured, through it and that they know that 1033 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 3: he's coming in with a commander, tag, one right they talk. 1034 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 3: About it and then every time we do these drafts 1035 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 3: now the last, two YEARS and i look at these 1036 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: LISTS and i hear, Their stories, i'm, LIKE man I 1037 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 3: wish i had known all this with reactively because all 1038 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 3: of this makes so, much, sense right it just makes sense. 1039 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: For HERE and i think the one criticism of the 1040 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: draft is that it's only got. Five picks, but like 1041 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: if you look at who their fifth round, pick Was 1042 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: it's Steve, bo. Samuel right if you look at who, they. 1043 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 2: Are because that's what you're, trading, Away right and then you. 1044 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: Look at, You Know marshall lattimore with your, third, Pick Right, 1045 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: LARAMY tunsaw i think, next, year. Yeah whatever it is 1046 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: so like when you add when you add those names, 1047 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: into this, you're, like oh this is like, super sick 1048 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: you KNOW what, I mean we've got an offensive playmaker the. 1049 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: Talent upgrade look at the town defensive. 1050 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: Player we can. Build about we've got a Franchise left 1051 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: like that's crazy to say franchise. Left tackle and it's 1052 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: all because Of How adam peters allocated. Draft, capital really 1053 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: like it's think about. Draft cattle capital is a way 1054 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: to acquire. Good players and he, traded some he. Drafted 1055 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 1: some and when you make when you put the class together, 1056 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: like that with those names, in there, you're Like Dang 1057 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: josh Connolly And larry tenseil, pretty, Wild Right jaal Lane And, 1058 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: Deebo samuel it's like it's kind. Of unbelievable And so 1059 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: Tramos And, Marshall latimore like it's it's crazy to think 1060 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: about how much more talented this draft class made this 1061 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: team if you include those other draft picks that were 1062 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: used in. 1063 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: Free, agency yeah so we're gonna have one more podcast. 1064 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: Next week we'll touch on the ud fas that are 1065 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: a year in, the building because there are a lot 1066 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 3: of good players that went undrafted are going to be 1067 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 3: here that are going. To contribute we had some of 1068 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 3: them last year when this team undrafted. And contribute we 1069 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: got a guy sitting right here, with us undrafted contributed 1070 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: for ten years IN. 1071 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 2: The nfl, Pretty, Good, lillian yeah. 1072 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: Pretty good and, you know THE more i do this, 1073 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: draft stuff THE more i realized like HOW lucky i 1074 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: was to. Do that, you know like you got to 1075 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: have got to be a little, bit lucky little, bit 1076 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: good a little, bit talented and it all kind. Of 1077 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: HAPPEN and i hope that these guys we talk about on, 1078 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: next week some of them are. Super talented so can't 1079 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: wait to talk about those GUYS because i have a 1080 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: special place in my heart for. That group but as of, 1081 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: right now that's going to do it for. Today's show 1082 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: please make sure you like and subscribe and listen wherever 1083 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: you get, your podcasts and check out other stuff On 1084 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: the commander's. YouTube page. 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