1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle. Get him in hud Get 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: him in a huddle, Get him in New York Giants Podcast. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Giants Hubtle Podcast. I 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: am John Schmilk. Thank you so much for being with 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: us today. You can find The Giant Subtle Podcast on 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: giants dot com, the Giants Mobile app, and on all 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms. To check out all the Giants 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: podcast offerings, go to giants dot com slash Podcasts. We're 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: doing something a little bit different rather than one long 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: interview today, We're gonna talk to the three young cornerbacks 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: that are now virtual starters for the New York Giants. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker, who has played most of the year, Sam Bielle, 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: who missed his entire rookie year due to injury a shoulder, 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: then he had a hamshing injury that kept him out 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: the first half this year. Both Ian Baker are now starters, 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: and Corey Ballantine, who suffered a couple of concussions this 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: year but now is the giants starting nickel cornerback. So 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk to all three about how their seasons progressing 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: and what it's like playing altogether out there in the secondary. 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: We'll start with Giant nickel cornerback Corey Ballentine, and I 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: asked him whether or not at this late stage of 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: the season, he still feels like a rookie. I definitely 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: still still feel like a rookie. I feel like I'm 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: still learning, UM, getting getting familiar with everything on the field, 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm glad to be playing the amount 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: of time I'm playing, But I mean, I feel like 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: there's always something to learn, something to take out of 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: my experiences out there. So I definitely feel like a rookie, 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: but I'm starting to get it now. What are some 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: of the things you've learned in your handful of starts 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: in the slot, something that you really didn't do a 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: whole lot of before you got to the Giants. Um, 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean just just being more I just I think 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: I have to be more technically sound. UM. I get 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: different kind of routes playing in the slot than I 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: would outside. More um over the field, routes, more short 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: UM you know, route runners, route runners like other receivers 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: that run um laterally more than vertically, So I gotta 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: play it differently. There's also more space UM playing in 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: the slot than there is in the in the um 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: in the corner. So, um, I've got to you know, 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: be on top of my p's and q's, but just 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: being more technically sound and stay on top of everything. 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: And then you know, trying to you know, figure out 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: what I'm going to get before the play to help 46 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: me play to play better. You know, you talk about 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the technique and talking to cornerships over the years, they 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: always tell me that playing the nickels the toughest spot 49 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: because why recus have a two way go, you don't 50 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: have the sideline there right, So technically, what are some 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: of the things you do have to do differently when 52 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: you're playing inside as opposed to having the boundary next 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: to you. Um, I think, um, one key thing is 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: knowing where your help is. UM knowing that if if 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: you have you know, help deep inside, then you could 56 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: play a little bit outside, or knowing if you have 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: help have help outside, you can play inside, or you know, 58 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: just playing leverage. And then you know, also, um, you know, 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: to take my game to another level. I've been kind 60 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: of trying to disguise it because I think offenses. Offenses 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: will look at my leverage and you know, try to 62 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: figure out what defense We're playing based off of where 63 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: I line, So I try to you know, shift it 64 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: around and and make them throw the quarterback off and 65 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: then you know, hurry up and get to my spot 66 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: to try to you know, play to play better. But 67 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: little things like that. Um. Like I said, I'm still learning, um, 68 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: learning from you know, A B and the order players. 69 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: But UM, you know, I got a long way to go. 70 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: What are some of the things you're trying to lock 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: down in terms of getting better in that spot? Um. 72 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Some of the things I think I'm locking down are 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: the run fits because at corner there's not as many 74 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: run fits. When I'm playing the nickel, I'm closer to 75 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: the core. Um, I have run fits. I've got to 76 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: set the edge sometimes sometimes I've got to be you know, 77 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: in the middle of the run fits in the b gaps. 78 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: So um, just just knowing where all my fits are. Um, 79 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: and then after that it's just about flying around getting 80 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: to the ball. Do you enjoy playing the run and 81 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: that that aspect of it and you get the boots 82 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more out of the slot too, which 83 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: is fun? Right? Yeah, it is fun. Um. I like 84 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I like the little switch ups that you know, I 85 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: get playing playing the nickel, Um, I like being down there, 86 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: being physical, being aggressive, UM. And I think it's better 87 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: for me because I'd rather get my hands on UM, 88 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Whereas corner you're kind of playing more off and it's 89 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: more of a finesse than it is a physical um position. 90 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: So UM, I think you know, playing the nickel, I'm 91 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: a little more physical than I was at corner, UM, 92 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: setting the edges in the runs, things like that, getting 93 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: off blocks, uh, playing for screens. So I like it 94 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: as a unit. Last week, you big guys basically had 95 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: four virtual rookie starting in the secondary. Sam's the second 96 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: year guy, but he didn't play in his rookie season. 97 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: You Julian and of course DeAndre, and then Antoine as 98 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: the loan back there. What was it like communicating over 99 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: the course of the game and getting ready for that game, 100 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: having the four young guys out there together on the 101 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: field at the same time for so many plays. UM, 102 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: I think it was fun. I had a lot of fun. 103 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: I think towards the second half we really settled in 104 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: and UM, and really, like you said, the communication was 105 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the big part of it. UM. As long as we 106 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: communicate and we're all in the same page. I think 107 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: everything will work out and and I think we did that. 108 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: We proved that in the second half. Um, but it 109 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: was it was fun. I mean, we're we're all kind 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: of still learning, but you know, we've got a b 111 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: back there, um, kind of solidifying everything we're doing. So 112 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: we're making the calls on our own, but he's kind 113 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: of overwatching everything making sure we're right. And we we 114 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: were right. So UM, you know, we're still growing and 115 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: we're getting it down downpack. So I was having fun 116 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: out there. Finally, does it help having all you guys 117 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: learning a lot of this stuff at the same time 118 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and experiencing things for the first time together so you 119 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: can compare notes, talk about it and grow as a unit. 120 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it does. And and also, um, we kind 121 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: of learned from me from each other, um because one 122 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: person I have a question and then and then you know, 123 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it and then it saws things for 124 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: the other person. And um, and and and since we're 125 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: all playing on the field at the same time, I 126 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: think it helps as well. Um, just just talking through things, 127 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: communicating and seeing how one person likes to play a 128 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: certain thing compared to another person and knowing the preferences, 129 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: who likes to press, who doesn't, things like that. UM, 130 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: so it definitely helps. And then we meet extra all 131 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: the time, UM, just to make sure we've got everything 132 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: locked locked down and and we don't have any braces 133 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: and coverage. Corey, great stuff. We appreciate the time, best 134 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: luck this week. Thank you. Now we'll turn our attention 135 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: to Sam Beale, who, as I mentioned at the start 136 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: of the show, missed his entire rookie year with the 137 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: shoulder injury and had a hamstring injury early this season 138 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: which kept them out of the first half of the year. 139 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: And I started my conversation with Sam asking him what 140 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: it's like being in his second year, but really, in 141 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: terms of playing time on the field, he's still just 142 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: a rookie. I found myself at times having those rookie 143 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: mistakes and rookie mishaps. But then again, when I get 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: out there, I feel dominant. I feel like I've been 145 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: here before, So I kind of like, let the play. 146 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: I kind of I play both basically, both sides. You 147 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Rookie, you know it's like New 148 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: York guy with some confidence, you know what kind of 149 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: play this movie? You know what were you able to 150 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: learn in that year, and I guess you're in a 151 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: half almost where you weren't able to get in the 152 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: field because of the shoulder, and then this year with 153 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: this year with the other injury. Right, So just just 154 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms yourself, you know, having older guys 155 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: around you, letting them, you know, talk about the you know, 156 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: schemes and coverages, especially from you know best, you know 157 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: schemes and coverages. You know you need more, you know, 158 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: you need repetition, you need reps. But just sitting in 159 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: there and watching guys go through it and make the mistakes. 160 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from from them as far as 161 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: being successful and mistakes, you know, wins and losses as well. 162 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: But you know, you gotta you gotta pay attention because 163 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: when those players come up, be like wow, I think 164 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: they could mary that play or that play look kind 165 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: of stuff, So I understand. So yeah, I learned a lot, 166 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: you know far as you know schemes and you know, 167 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: you know different stuff play calling it. And then how 168 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: much does it help to last year you with Grant Haley, 169 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: who was another kind of rookie going through with you. 170 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: This year, you have a lot of young guys in 171 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: the room, Julian Love you got DeAndre Baky, got Corty Valentine. 172 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: That all you guys are kind of learning and experiencing 173 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: things on the field for the first time together. How 174 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: does that help? So with that, we kind of like 175 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: as a whole are fastally forcing each other to learn 176 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: and get better and it helps. So because when we're 177 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: out there, we got to communicate. You know, we're young, 178 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: so a lot of things go wrong and we need 179 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: each other to talk. So once we're vocal and everything 180 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: is fall in life. But like we were so much 181 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: in seeing as a group in the whole, you know, 182 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: having older guys too in the in the meeting rooms 183 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: as well. It's hoping us out there on the field. 184 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: So our communication is is great now because you know 185 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: we're having that time together. In what way has it 186 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: helped now playing together where it's the four young guys 187 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: plus Santoine on the field together with that communication which 188 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: is so important not to have blown coverages? How was 189 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: that improved just in the last couple of weeks playing 190 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: together on It's as far as coming from playing like 191 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: starting front of practice, you know what I mean, we 192 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: made our mistakes, correct them We made our good plays 193 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: and we took it over to the game. As you 194 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: can see in Miami Game, we came out of there 195 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: flying heads on fire, communicating, making sure everybody is still confident. 196 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: The more I don't know, but for everybody else, but 197 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: for us, the more we talk, the more confidently is 198 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And it makes you play 199 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: with more fire. So I know my job for sure. 200 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play this you know, play this Ralph 201 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: for Shure and I'm gonna play this receiver real good 202 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: for sure. You talk about the mistakes and all young 203 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: defensive backs making mistakes. It's part of the deal. But 204 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: a lot of times guys can't correct those mistakes until 205 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: they make it themselves. But if DeAndre makes a mistake, 206 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: of Corey makes a mistake, you see that. Can you 207 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: almost learn from that even though you're not the one 208 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: that's making the initial era that gets corrected. Yeah, we 209 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: definitely do. And either it is on film and during 210 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: practice or even in the game we go on the 211 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: sideline and the bay Core or Core it is he's 212 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: something in child like let me know ahead of time. Look, 213 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: he's giving me this leverage and he's giving me the 214 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: stamp and he keeps giving it to me. So maybe 215 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna switch up when he gets to your side, 216 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: or he's gonna give you the same thing when he 217 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: gets to your side, and that's always great. Like when 218 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: I get to the sideline and based on something, I'm like, okay, 219 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get that, Yes, I'm off I'm thinking about 220 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: it next. He might come to me next. Or I 221 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: get a deep route and Big has got a need 222 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: rolling ship. I'm okay. They love his post because he 223 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: keeps getting to him, so he's gonna come to you 224 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: with that, you know what I mean. So DeAndre talked 225 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: about not just watching film, but understanding what to look 226 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: for when you're watching. Even watch a guy at the 227 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: offense for six hours. If you don't know what to 228 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: look for, what's the point, right? How much of the 229 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: veteran guys taught you in the pros how to properly 230 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: watch film, So you're not only learning about the opposing 231 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: scheme but also the individual wide receivers you might have 232 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: to play again exactly, Um, just in the in the 233 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: meeting rooms and having like bake, the our coach bake. 234 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: He kind of like gives give us a set of 235 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: number of plays. So when you go watch this play, 236 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: you need to to see his leverage, see his split, 237 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: see the running backs split, because you're never nothing. You 238 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: might do a little cross or something. So it's really 239 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: really in detail and depth, and it's kind of difficult 240 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: for us, you know, starting to do that now and 241 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: since the season started, starting to pick up one of 242 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: the more. But now you see us breaking on routs 243 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: better and coming down making plays because we're starting to 244 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: realize roulets more, starting to realize more schemes and how 245 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: they aligned up. And so yeah, I understand what they're saying. 246 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: How much how important is anticipation and understanding what the 247 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: offense is trying to do to you pre snap so 248 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: you can make those types of plays. That's the difference 249 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: between PVU and interceptions for dB, and that's rooming forward 250 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: so or catch your PPU right, the same deal. Yeah, 251 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: And I think just as as a player, how much 252 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: different is the pros where it does take this many 253 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: reps to start figuring that stuff out. Um, I say, 254 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: when you when you first get here and then you 255 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: get that that that playbook and then you get all 256 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: those those stuff and you're like you're swimming you're swimming. 257 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: So once you go and do it, it it kind of 258 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: it kind of falls into place, but it's gonna take 259 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: time and if it might happen easier for you, but 260 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: sometimes for some people it takes more time, and it 261 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: takes you know, mistakes. You know, I like making mistakes 262 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: honestly because once I figure out the mistake, I can 263 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: figure out how to do it ten times better without 264 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: making mistakes. Physically. For you, when did you gain confidence 265 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: back in the shoulder? You know, people don't think quarterbacks 266 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: upper body, but you if you're pressing, you need you 267 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: need that punch. You need to have confidence in that 268 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: right hand. Find all that stuff. And then this year 269 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: with the lower body stuff. You know, just when did 270 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: you gain back full confidence that you're physically what Sam 271 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: beals supposed to do. So so with the shoulder, once 272 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: they gave me the clear of like okay, you can 273 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: put hands on guys, you can hite guys, I instantly 274 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: went to the punch bag. That was my first go 275 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: to punching bag, finding like heavy your balls and throwing them, 276 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: just getting my shoulder to the point where I'm pushing 277 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: and punching because I know I'm gonna need to do 278 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: that soon. So once I got there, I knew I 279 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: could throw a nice little right hook or a nice jab. 280 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I knew I was good for as the shoulder, and 281 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: then with the hamstring. Um, I would say, I took 282 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot of time of my open body, and then 283 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: once I got out there running, I'm a faster guy. Um, 284 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: we might need more time getting looser and getting stretched. 285 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: So I kind of took it too far. Once I 286 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: got I got kind of excited basically, and kind of 287 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: went out there and just not going crazy running. Was 288 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: that your first hamstring injury? That? Yeah, it was my 289 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: first hamstring injury. It was major because of the situation, 290 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: and I kept rushing myself to get back out there 291 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: because I love ball. Everybody loves playing. I didn't want 292 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: to sit out, so basically just rushed it. But once 293 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: I calmed down, you know, I got my advice, took 294 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: my my little therapy, got my hamstring right now, I'm good. 295 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: Fund Is that a good lesson for a young guy 296 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: to learn in the future, That that that you need 297 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: to listen to the training staff and just sometimes if 298 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: you get back and wait a couple a couple of 299 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: extra weeks, that'll save you from going on that temporary 300 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: I r exactly. They take time here, so you should 301 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: take your time too. Don't rush it. Take it from me. 302 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to play bad. I know you want to 303 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: pay play as bad as you think you want to play. 304 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: But when your body is not feeling how you you 305 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: know it should feel, and you're not moving how you 306 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: want to move, slow down, you know. I mean, it's okay, 307 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: you don't let them know. Look, I want to hear, 308 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: and then that's that's what I did, and took my time. 309 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look, I'm kind of I'm we know I'm 310 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: too fast, and I keep doing the same thing over 311 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: against We're gonna take a little breaks. My break got 312 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: held up. I was great. Finally you weren't playing for 313 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: the first game against Washington. But you've looked at tape 314 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: this week. Obviously, challenges of dealing with the Dwayne Haskins 315 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: and Terry McLaurin another two other rookies that are that 316 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: are having really really good rookie seasons. So we we 317 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: basically just play off the team, and you know, we 318 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: game playing in the scheme just like they do. We're 319 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily worry about sevens or quarterbacks. We're worried about 320 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: the defense and how we play and how we're gonna 321 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: fly around. But I can tell you I think everybody 322 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: has the same as how I guess we came out 323 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: every other game. We're gonna win this game and can't 324 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: body standing that way. So that's how we're gonna play. 325 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep playing the same way. Fine around his 326 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: on fire. Now, it was a while since you guys 327 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: had a win, right? Was the mood that much different 328 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: in practice this week? Just did? Was there a whole 329 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: different feeling coming off that victory that then maybe you've 330 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: had in past weeks when you're trying to recover off 331 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: a loss. I feel like, um, a lot of a 332 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: lot of guys on our team has a short memory. Um, 333 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: so when we take the Yeah, when we take those losses, 334 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: we kind of we go knock him out the meeting room. 335 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: But once they over the next game and where to win. 336 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: So just like this week, we got our win. Um, 337 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: we looked at in the meeting room, in locker room, 338 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: we had our fun. Now I'm gonna sit it next week. 339 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: So I think everybody more locked in than thinking about 340 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: last season. Man, Yeah, well good luck trying to appreciate, 341 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you. And now let's turn our attention to DeAndre Baker, 342 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: the Giants first round pick this season, their third first 343 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: round pick, right at the end of the first round, 344 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: they traded up to get him. He's been starting at 345 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: cornerback for most of the season. He struggle a little 346 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: bit earlier in the year, but it's starting to figure 347 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: things out. I started by asking him about what it's 348 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: been like and how the group has performed with so 349 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: many young cornerbacks on the field at the same time, 350 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: with himself, Sambo and Corey Ballentine. We got older guys 351 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: in the room, you know, Mike Thomas, Michael Thomas, you know, 352 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: but there those guys, and we've got young guys like me, myself, Bill, Corey, 353 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: and Jay Love. We complement each other, you know. They 354 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: older guys teach us things and ways a better eye 355 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: game improved. So you know, we just go out and practice, compete, compete, 356 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: and that we're doing the field on Sunday, does it 357 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: help to that you guys are experiencing and learning these 358 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: things almost for the first time together, so you can 359 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of compare notes and learn from each other's mistakes 360 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: and successes. Oh yeah, it play a big role because 361 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: there's things that they might see that and see or 362 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that, So they played a big rule. How 363 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: about you individually, where do you think you've improved or 364 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: grown the most since the start of the season. I 365 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: would probably say just you know, just being just being 366 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: more into like the uh, like the film. Just learned 367 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: how to break down a film. You know, different as 368 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: to break down the film. Older guys taught me, like 369 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: different little cheeks and way to breakdown film. You know, 370 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: watch Tennessee's offense. So stuff like that. I bet up 371 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: myself overall. Yeah, it's funny and I think we've seen that. 372 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks too, against Miami, there was 373 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: a slant you came down on time to perfectly knock 374 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: it away. A couple other in breaking routes you're playing off, 375 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: but it seemed like you knew what was coming and 376 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: that allowed you to break on that route very quickly, 377 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: to break up some of those passes. Something something like that. 378 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, you know, just focusing on my technique and 379 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: things like that, and also with the film study, so 380 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: it all come together and make make some plays on 381 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: the ball. What are you most comfortable doing right now? 382 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: Do you like to press? You like off Man is 383 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: a zone. What's your biggest comfort zone at the current time. 384 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a press corner, but like you know, 385 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't grow over I don't grow over time. And 386 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: like I can play off, I can play wherever they 387 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: want me to play it, so it don't really matter 388 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: right now. What's some of the I know you talked 389 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: about some of the hints with the film study and stuff, 390 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: but what are some of the other things that the 391 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: vets have talked to you about this year, either in 392 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: terms of technique, preparation, whatever, that's how to make you 393 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: a better cornerbacks just the preparation of things. You know, 394 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: they just always be prepared and it's it's not how 395 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: long you paid. You gotta prepar the right way. So 396 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: when you watch Finn you can just watch it for 397 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: six hours and think you got to really have something 398 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: that you're really looking at. Do you focus on scheme? 399 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: Do you focus on tendencies for individual wide receivers when 400 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: you look at the table, What are some of the 401 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: specific things you try to take a look at. I 402 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: just break it down day by day. Every day I 403 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: do something different, so some days I might do schemes, 404 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: some days I might do this received I know I'll 405 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: be facing so every day is something different in terms 406 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: of the defense as a whole. Do you see the 407 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: arrow pointing up in terms of how you've played these 408 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks as a secondary together as a unit, 409 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: and just where do you think this group is heading 410 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: as you get more experience on the field together. You know, 411 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: we're getting better every game. You know, I see it. 412 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: I think everybody else see it. So we just want 413 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: to keep going up and keep getting better and better, 414 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, to see where it takes us as you 415 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: play more and more. Does that make some of the 416 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: communication stuff pre snap a lot easier? Yeah, definitely. Know 417 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: the more we play together, more experience, we get just better. 418 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: The chemistry is what's your focus right now? Is an individual? 419 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: Where are you trying to really improve your game and 420 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of take that next step? Just focus on making 421 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: players on the ball and communicating on the field, so 422 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: everybody be on one page as big as things so far. Now, 423 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the second time you're facing a 424 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: repeat opponent. You face the red Skins a long time ago. 425 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: How does that help you as a defensive vaccine the 426 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: team for a second time. Uh, you know, you know 427 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: who you're facing, know who you're going against. You played 428 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: them before, so you know, uh what things got different 429 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: guys like to do, so be kind of familiar. They 430 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: kind of put a few different things in there go 431 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: against what we do, but still the same guys. They 432 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: have a couple of rookie of rookie quarterback and Dwayne 433 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: Haskins and Terry mclauren as well, and the other wide 434 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: receiver also a rookie. When you see these guys on film, 435 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: specifically Haskins and mclauren, what do you see that they 436 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: do that is a challenge for you and your defense. 437 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got a good connection. You know, I 438 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: feel like, didn't they go to the same souse. Yeah, 439 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: so they had a good can as what rouse is 440 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: good perfect time and so you know you gotta be 441 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: kind of crisp and I covers on DeAndre, good stuff, man. 442 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. Thank you man. 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