1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: the right place. This is the Official Colts Podcast giving 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: you an updated look and what's new with the Horseshoes. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Just gets off the Taylor he said touch down in 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: d Why fires out way picked off? Terius flitting at 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: the five yard line, plants in the pocket, the Cults 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: bring it down a sack. Pandi Ouplis steps up in 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: the Antony throws go Pitpan touch down. Let's get the 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: podcast started. What's up? Everyone? Welcome into another episode of 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: the Official Colts Podcast, presented by When That. I'm JJ Stankovitz. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Joined here by Matt Taylor and Lara Overton. We made 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: it to Draft week. The NFL Draft starts Thursday night 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. The Colts first pick right now is 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: scheduled to be Friday night at number forty two. Overall, 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: we are going to talk a lot about the NFL Draft. 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Later in this episode, we are joined by Colts Director 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: of Player Personnel Kevin Rogers to talk a little bit 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: about the draft process this year. Some memories about drafting 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor a couple of years ago, Chris Ballard's feel 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: in the draft room, Big news coming out tonight, though, 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Lara with the Next Pick. Episode three debuts Tuesday night 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: on Colts dot Com. Good. We're rolling it out a 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: day early so that you have two full days to 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: get an end before the draft. We're just ramping up 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: to Thursday night. Fantastic episode. We get back inside the 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: draft room. We get all that fantastic draft banter between 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: the guys, between the scouts. In terms of setting the board, 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: April is where you set the board and you discuss 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: the guys who you actually have a chance at taking. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: You know, you're really doing due diligence in those earlier 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: months when they're in those February meetings going through every 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: possible scenario. Now you're really trimming it down and Kevin, 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: I'll touch on that later in our conversation. But it's 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: a really good episode. Excited for this one. There's always 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the challenge for Colts Productions in raising the bar doing 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: something different year in and year out. An Episode three 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: is one of those where we really stick to the 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: core of what makes this series so great, and that's 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the incredible personalities that you have in that room. We 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: feature all of those different scouts who you've come to, 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, follow and watch and enjoy guys like Morocco 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: Brown and Ed Duds and Chad Henry and Matt Turpinting, 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: all of those guys. Jamie Moore one of the guys 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: who's been a favorite for season's past. So looking forward 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: to seeing that role out on Tuesday Night. Yeah, so 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for that. And you know that series, 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: by the way, just with the Next Pick, like me 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: coming in from you know, not being here when the 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: series debut, Like I actually wasn't hearing the series debut. 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, it was. It was a few 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: months before I even started, so I was not part 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: of the very first with the Next Pick, but it 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: has become one of the areas of my role that 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: I enjoy the very most. I just remember in I 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: think it was twenty nineteen, like being on Twitter and 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: you know, being very much immersed in like the Bears 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: at that point that was a team I was covering 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and having all these people being like, oh my god, 59 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: this is an incredible series. And now you're seeing so 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: many other teams doing it, Like the Colts are kind 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: of at the forefront of giving fans a look at 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: what the draft room is like because It's something that 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, really has been a very exclusive thing, and 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: just given that little peak of what the process is 65 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: like is really cool. The players who are in the building, 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: who are on the roster right now, and we're into 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: the second week of phase one of the Colts off 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: season program. The Colts will have five weeks of offseason 69 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: work before two weeks of OTAs in late May. That's 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: when they'll start running plays without pads. Veteran Mini Camp 71 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: is June seventh through the ninth. That's the closest the 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Colts will come to playing real football until training camp 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: kicks off in late July. A lot of players are here, 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're seeing like Rodney McLeod getting the building 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: this week, you know, some of the new guys getting here. 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: And attendance is pretty good right now for this off season. 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: The first time in a long time that there's like 78 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: a cheat sheet where you have all of the different 79 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: photos of different guys, and I've had to like actually 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: use it because there are so many new yes, a 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: lot of new face, a lot of new faces, and 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to line guys up because they've come in 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: at different times and you haven't exactly gotten to sit 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: down and meet with each and everyone. So you're trying 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: to like, you know, cross check and look and see 86 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: like who you're who you're catching in the hallway, and 87 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: then we'll have a few guys available. Wednesdays are going 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: to be to get the days that guys go up 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: to the podium. We hear from players, so you know, 90 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: you'll get to hear from different guys. So here's some 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: of those interviews on the colds Audio Network. By the way, 92 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and I know masks too, I know, I know you 93 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: can actually see their faces. I got thrown off though. 94 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I saw Kyl and Granson in the hallway last week. 95 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: Oh the short hair and yeah, his hair it's it's 96 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: not you know, the big hair that he had last 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: year at short and I was like it took me 98 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: a second, Yeah, hey Kyler. Yeah, Like I was, you know, 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: kind of looking at him, and he probably thought it 100 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: was a total weirdo because I'm like staring at him 101 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: like you Kylie, yes you are Kyl and Granson. I 102 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: saw Marvell Tell from behind and didn't realize because he 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: is he cut his hair really close to cut his 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: hair really short, and so he turned around. I was like, 105 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Marvel like, yeah, it was so transformations. Yes, yeah, but 106 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, with all those new faces, there's a core 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: of guys coming back to this roster that experienced that 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: sting of last year. And Ryan Kelly talked about that 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: about how he's still dealing with the disappointment of last season. 110 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: So before we kind of launched into this conversation, here's 111 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: what Ryan Kelly had to say last week. Yeah, it's 112 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: kind of hard to find the silver lining in that one. 113 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: You know. It's I think that there is a lot 114 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: to look back on when we started the season. We 115 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: started slow and then we finished you know, not so great. 116 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: And so to be a winning team, to be a 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: championship caliber team the way that we knew we had 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: the talent to do, we have to just play more 119 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: than eight game stretch really well, you know, and so 120 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I think that we've got to certainly have the guys 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: in the locker room to do it. It's just it's 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: about going out there and you know, believing that we 123 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: can do it. I think that that maybe was something 124 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: that we lacked last year, and we just you know, 125 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: I know, everybody's gonna be asking about Jacksonville for a 126 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: while because I mean, hell, it's five months now and 127 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: you're still wrapping your brain around how that could happen, 128 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, with a team that we had, so which 129 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: I had better answer for that one. So, mate, what's 130 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: been the vibe you've got over the last you know, 131 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: seven to ten days, about how players are balancing forgetting 132 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: about last season and knowing that this is a new team. 133 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, you're seeing the new faces come into the building, 134 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: but also using the way last season ended as fuel. 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Right now, at this point in the off season, I 136 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of guys still aren't over it. And 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Ryan said it's been five months. Really it's only been 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: three and a half months. And I really like what 139 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: Frank Reich said. You know that the analogy that he used, 140 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a scar. It's gonna heal, but it's always 141 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna be there. It's a reminder of what happened, and 142 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna take time to kind of heal and get over. 143 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: I think there is a balance of having to move 144 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: on flush the terrible memories of how last season ended, 145 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: but also use it as motivation. And I think as 146 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: a player what is helpful is instead of thinking about 147 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: all the many things, all of the individual things that 148 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: went wrong and led up to the collapse of last season. 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: All you have to do is just say twenty twenty 150 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: one and everybody knows what that means. Just simplify it 151 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: in your head. You ask yourself every day as a player, 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do today to make sure that 153 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: never happens again? When you're in that position? How are 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: you going to rise up? And we know last year 155 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: wasn't just all about the final two games at the 156 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Colts closed out seven games along the way they make 157 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it is It's a hard thing as 158 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: a player, it really is. I've never played in the NFL, 159 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: but when I was in college, we lost an NCAA 160 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: tournament football game on the final play of the game. 161 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: We gave it up on the final play, a touchdown 162 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: that ended our season, and that fueled everybody in the 163 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: entire off season. Everybody worked their tails off in the 164 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: weight room, conditioning. We had great buy in that entire offseason, 165 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: and nobody had to persuade anybody else to put in 166 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the work. Nobody wanted to feel that that terrible feeling again. 167 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: So I think in that sense, there is a very 168 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: tiny I'm not trying to be you know, cliche, But 169 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I think in that sense there is a tiny silver 170 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: lining to the work and the motivation going into the 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: off season because of just how bad the prior season ended. 172 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm so ready to move on from it, Like I'm 173 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: so ready to get through the draft and get guys 174 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: back and just start looking ahead, start focusing forward. And yeah, 175 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: there is something to be said for like using this motivation. 176 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: But one thing I help, I think, and I hope 177 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: that will flush a little bit of this is the 178 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: influx of so many new faces. You have so much 179 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: new blood in this That's what Frank said, Hey, when 180 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: you in the season the way we did and you've 181 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: got a new system, a new quarterback, a new defensive coordinator, 182 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: we got a lot of work to do. Anyways, Yeah, 183 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and have no choice exactly. So you've got you know, 184 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan in here with the offense, you have read, 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: You're working with the rid wide receivers. Defensively, you bring 186 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: in Unique and Gawkway and Stefan Gilmour and Gus Bradley 187 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: in an entire new staff of personnel. So I think 188 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: that that will really help. And then that's supplemented by 189 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: the youth that you're going to get within the draft 190 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: and how you are going to build within that as well. 191 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Guys who you know are are going to not have 192 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: any attachment to the end of twenty twenty one, and 193 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: they're coming in with a fresh perspective. So I'm hoping 194 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: that within the next month you'll see a balance struck 195 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: between the veteran guys, you know, like Ryan just touched on, 196 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: who do have a bit of a chip on their shoulder, 197 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and maybe they use that as fuel and motivation. But 198 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: then you have enough new blood, enough new energy in 199 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: a positive direction that helps you move past it and 200 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: move to the opportunity that you have. The other thing 201 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: I just want to touch on here is something that 202 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly talked about last week about how so many 203 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: players on this team are in the prime of their careers. 204 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: You think about the core of this team that's been 205 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: together now for two, three, four five years, you know, 206 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly into Forrest Bucker. Those guys are kind of 207 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: in their late twenties, Grover Stewarts in his late time. 208 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: That came from my asking Ryan about being the elder 209 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: statesman he is now because of the retirement of Jack 210 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: Doyle and t Y Hutland free agency. He's currently the 211 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: longest tenured Colt, yeah, and the oldest cult On the 212 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, it's so Sean Coleman, a 213 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: tackle who's signed to it was her future contract. He's 214 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: the he's the oldest guy on the Colts offense who's 215 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: not named Matt Ryan. And then you know, beyond that, 216 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: it's Ryan Kelly and Molly Cox are both twenty eight, 217 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: which you know, kind of tells you a lot about 218 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: the NFL and how it's you know, kind of stands 219 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: for not for long. But so the core of this 220 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: roster again, it's a lot of guys in there, late 221 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: to mid twenties who are in the primes of their careers. 222 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: So Quentin Nelson, Darius Leonard, Braden Smith, Taekwon Lewis, nine Minds, 223 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Zyr Franklin. Those guys are all twenty five to twenty seven. 224 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Bobbio Karaka, Kari Willis, EJ. Speed, Paris Campbell. Those guys 225 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: from the nineteen draft are all kind of in their 226 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: mid twenties, even though Jonathan Taylor is only twenty three. 227 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: As a running back, that is the prime of your career, 228 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you know. Michael Pittman's an ascending guy. And the thing 229 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: that I just want to talk about here, which we 230 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: can kind of lead into a discussion about Matt Ryan, 231 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: is that even though Matt Ryan is thirty seven, he's 232 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: going to be in his late thirties. Matt Ryan understands 233 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: that sense of urgency. He has it too, because for 234 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: someone who's thirty six going on thirty seven, he knows, like, yeah, 235 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: he thinks he can play for a long time, but 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: you never know when that when you get to this age, 237 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: when it's going to kind of come to an end. 238 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: So for Matt Ryan, I think there's a lot of 239 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: urgency there too, to come into a situation where he 240 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: thinks he can win and to kind of be that 241 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: veteran leader on this team. So to me, that's another 242 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: nice little aspect. As you're trying to move on from 243 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: last season, you dump in a guy like Matt Ryan 244 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: who can kind of continue to lead that charge just 245 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: from a different perspective, who still is very motivated, but 246 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: in sort of a different type of a way. Absolutely, 247 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he knows what's going on, and me, 248 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: Mett Ryan understands that when you come over here and 249 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: you switch teams. It's all about winning a Super Bowl. 250 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he prioritized when he switched teams 251 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and went to the Atlanta Falcons and said, I would 252 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: like to be traded, and he wanted to go to 253 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: a team where it was set up where he could 254 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: have success. And of course the Falcons obliged in that sense, 255 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, only demanding if you will, a third round 256 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: pick in terms of compensation in the trade. And he 257 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: knows that, you know, he's one hard hit or one 258 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: injury away from you know, it being hard to come 259 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: back from that at his age. So he's got two 260 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: years in the contract. Everybody knows what this is. It's 261 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: time to go. Now. The Cults are set up for 262 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: success absolutely right now here at the moment. We've talked 263 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: about this ad nauseum in the off season with seven 264 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers and three All Pro guys, and you know, 265 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: now you set yourself up even more for the window 266 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: of opportunity with Unique and Goaqwayne Stefan Gilmour. The fact 267 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: that Matt Ryan can now play with an elite defense 268 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: at least on paper, that's exciting and everybody knows that 269 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: they have to capitalize on what they have right now 270 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: because there's not a ton of missing pieces on this 271 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: team right now across the board and the roster, and 272 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: we haven't even had the draft yet, which makes it 273 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: really exciting for what's coming up this weekend. So I 274 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: want to just let's talk a little bit about Matt 275 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Ryan because something we heard last week from Frank Reich, 276 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: you know, about ten percent of the offense is starting 277 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: to be tweaked right now just by getting a new 278 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: quarterback in. Whether it's you know, little things like how 279 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: you want the depth of a certain route to be, 280 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: what you call that route, whether you call it a 281 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: dover route or a dig route or whatever it might be. 282 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: They're just little subtle things that Matt Ryan's already tweaking, 283 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: and that those kind of things like what are we 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: going to see? Like what subtle tweaks do you envision 285 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan at quarterback? I think those little things 286 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: are going to be a little bit harder to see. 287 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: But I want to talk a little bit about some 288 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: of the things that we will see with Matt Ryan here. 289 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: And I did a little bit of research on this 290 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: because there's sort of this thought that Matt Ryan coming 291 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: in means, all right, he's gonna throw the check down 292 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: a little bit more. He's gonna get the ball to 293 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Niheem Hines, He's gonna get the ball to Jonathan Taylor. 294 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: If you know boom boom one two isn't open, get 295 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: get to the check down, that type of stuff. There 296 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: is some actual data here that I can throw at 297 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: you that tells you that Matt Ryan's gonna do this. 298 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: So last year, when Matt Ryan had three or more 299 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: seconds to throw the football, his average depth of target 300 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: was nine yards, So he's throwing the ball about nine 301 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: yards beyond the line of scrimmage. Carson Wentz last year 302 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: with three seconds to throw through more seconds to throw, 303 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: his average depth of target was sixteen point one yards. 304 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: So right there you can see that's a seven yard difference. 305 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: And that just tells you again what you what we 306 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: know about these guys. Carson when he got it, when 307 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: he held down to the ball a long time, he 308 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: wanted to throw deep. He wanted to get that shot 309 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: down field. Matt Ryan is maybe a little less willing 310 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: to kind of push the ball downfield, and he's going 311 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: to take the safer throw. And even though which is 312 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: more closely related to what you saw from Philip Rivers 313 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: and twenty exactly when you look and envision what the 314 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: offense might somewhat look like. And Tom Brady, well, right, 315 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: but and here's the crazy things Brady's career right there. 316 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: I threw those numbers at you guys, where Carson's thrown 317 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: it downfield more, Matt Ryan's maybe checking it down a 318 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: little bit more on those plays where they had three 319 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: or more seconds to throw the football. Carson Wentz's yards 320 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: per attempt with seven point seven, Matt Ryan's was seven 321 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: point five. So they're about the same efficiency. Matt Ryan's 322 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: just throwing a little bit shorter. So right there, that's 323 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: like that that shows you. And by the way, on 324 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: those plays, um, Matt Ryan had no interceptions, Carson Wentz 325 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: at five. So again that's that's just kind of taking 326 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: what's there. And that's not to say Carson and some 327 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: of that comes from like the veteran savvy, right right, 328 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: just being as experienced as you are, what fourteen years 329 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL understanding. Yes, but I'm also like Carson 330 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: Wentz's arm allowed him to do that. This is not 331 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: me saying Carson Wentz was, you know, a terrible quarterback 332 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: for doing that. This is just the difference in the 333 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you're going to be looking for. So that 334 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: was just kind of the rabbit hole I fell down 335 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: on Pro Football Focus. But what you know, what do 336 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: you guys think you know you might see just some 337 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: of those little subtle tweaks Maytay, Let's start with you 338 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: on this one. I think the Cults are trying to 339 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: dial up more yards after the catch, and that goes 340 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: back to what Laris said a couple of years ago 341 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers. That was a The Colts had their 342 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: chunk plays in twenty twenty, but a lot of it 343 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: was yards after the catch. And I don't think there's 344 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: any right or wrong way to get yack. You just 345 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: need yak, and the Colts didn't have a ton of 346 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: it last year. So I think generally speaking, you're going 347 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: to see the ball come out quicker this year with 348 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. As you said, JJ, I doubt you're going 349 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: to see nearly as many RPOs as you did last 350 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: year with Carson Wentz because there is not that threat, 351 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: the mobility threat with Matt Ryan as compared to Carson Wentz. 352 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: So I think the Colts have been diving into Matt 353 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Ryan's tape at the Falcons, and they're just trying to 354 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: marry that with their scheme, his preferences, and the skill 355 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: set they have on offense. You know, it's kind of like, 356 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we know that Matt Ryan and Peyton 357 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Manning are very very close, and Peyton's been giving Matt 358 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Ryan a lot of advice and guidance this offseason because 359 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: he has gone through the transition, you know, fourteen years 360 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: with one team moving to a different situation. Just keep 361 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: things simple and try to take as much as what 362 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: you have done what's yours, so that you don't have 363 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: to adapt to everybody else. Everybody else can adapt to 364 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: you in the simple things. And by that he means 365 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: like your cadence or cadence is your cadence If it's 366 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: okay with Frank and the offense and the rest of 367 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, bring your cadence because that's been you 368 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: your entire life, that's what you've been used to have. 369 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: Everybody else kind of adapt to that because it's not 370 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: as big of a deal for them to adapt your 371 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: cadence compared to vice versa. They're trying to marry those things, 372 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: and I think you know also too from a bigger 373 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: picture standpoint. Fortunately here for the Colts, they're pretty used 374 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: to doing this, you know, Frank Reich, this is what 375 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: five years in a row now with a new quarterback 376 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: and trying to tailor what they do on offense to 377 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: fit the skill set of what they have at the quarterback. 378 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: So I think the bigger benefit this year is actually 379 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna be getting him time on the field in the 380 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: off season, in the huddle with the skilled players, time 381 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: on task that they haven't had with the new quarterback 382 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: in the off season the last you know, two three years, Larry, 383 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned Philip Rivers and he came in in twenty 384 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: and twenty with no off season, none of this what 385 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's doing right now. He threw for four thousand 386 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: yards and completed sick eight percent of his passes. When 387 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: you think about where those two guys are at the 388 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: stage of their career and what the offense they're they're 389 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: being dropped into, looks like, how much more beneficial can 390 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: this be for Matt Ryan in relation to what Philip 391 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: did two years ago? Well, they were, they're coming in 392 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: in different positions where you know, Philip had such a 393 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: down year with the Chargers the year prior to coming 394 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: in that he was looking to resurrect himself and end 395 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: on a higher note, whereas I don't think Matt Ryan 396 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: is coming in with you know, that type of production. 397 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: His production was much better on what was probably a 398 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: much worse football team the year before, right, yeah, right, 399 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: And and so Matt of course didn't have a ton 400 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: of weapons, didn't have a fantastic offensive line his final 401 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: few years in Atlanta. So he's coming in in a 402 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: better position. He's younger than Philip was at that point 403 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: in time as well. But when you look to what 404 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: we experienced from Philip Rivers and what you anticipate with 405 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, I'm kind of going back to Chris's season 406 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: ending press were about like making the layups, and what 407 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: you're going to get from Matt Ryan is he's not 408 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: going to be reckless. He's not going to put the 409 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: football in harm's way. That's what you kind of saw 410 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers is that there wasn't that hero ball 411 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: like they have the potential to make the big plays 412 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: when called upon, but they know what their limitations are. 413 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: They're able to have that humility of playing to the 414 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: strengths of the guys around them and not carrying the 415 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: entire responsibility on their shoulders. The other thing I think 416 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: about is the ability of a guy like Matt Ryan 417 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: to elevate the rest of the guys around him and 418 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to when you think about you know, people are looking 419 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: to and they think, oh, you don't have enough weapons 420 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: in the receiving game, You're not deep enough at tight 421 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: end those type of situations. What I think Matt Ryan 422 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: has the potential to do is allow Moalley Cox to 423 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: hit his ceiling, you know, allow Kylan Granson to play 424 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: at a higher level of production, guys like Desmond Patman, 425 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: Michael Stron Because Matt Ryan has had so many guys 426 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: who are in there second year, third year, fourth year 427 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: who he has guided to breakout seasons because of the 428 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: type of leader he is, and because of his willingness 429 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: to distribute the ball, to rely on guys in various situations, 430 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: and to not force himself into situations that are going 431 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: to cost you in high profile, prominent situations. So let's 432 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: talk about some of those guys who Matt Ryan will 433 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: be throwing the ball too. We'll get into the draft 434 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: again a little bit later here but we wouldn't again 435 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: just want to set up the draft by talking about 436 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: the guys in the building. So let's start by playing 437 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of sound from Frank Reich and Chris 438 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: Ballard again talking about the skill position players that Matt 439 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: Ryan will be throwing too in twenty twenty two, who 440 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: are already on the roster. What I know, the guys 441 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: that I when I look down to depth chart right now, 442 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Greg and I see those young receivers. I understand what 443 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: the outside perception is. He got a bunch of guys 444 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: and how many catches do they have. I see the 445 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: side of a lot of upside with those players and 446 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing those guys continue to develop. Really 447 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: excited to get Mo back, you know, with Jack being 448 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: retired and right, hats off to Jack, right, I mean, 449 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: one of the all time true greats. But this is 450 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: going to be an opportunity for Mo to step up, 451 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Kyl and Grantson to step up from the tight end position, 452 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll see who we had. You guys know, 453 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: there's nobody better than Chris. There's nobody better than Chris 454 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: at continuing to develop the roster as we go, whether 455 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: that be in the draft, or whether that be signing 456 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: guys in the next couple of months or signing somebody 457 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: in training camp. There's nobody, you know, my mind, there's 458 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: nobody does that better than Chris. So what I think 459 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: when I look at our roster and I think about 460 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: where we're going to be. I trust Chris. I trust 461 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: that Chris, you know, and I trust our guys. In 462 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: my mind. We got everything we need. But I know 463 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Chris is always working on that and it'll get better, 464 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: all right. So listening to what Frank and Chris said 465 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: to say, when you look at the guys who are here, 466 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: so you know Michael Pittman Jr. Paris Campbell Extraw and 467 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Desmond Patman Keiki QT Paris Campbell, that that kind of 468 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: group of guys taking Pittman aside because he's already broken out, 469 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: He's already a thousand yard receiver established in the NFL. 470 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: Which of those guys are you betting on taking a 471 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: step forward in this offense in twenty twenty two and 472 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: maybe being the number two receiver regardless of who the 473 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Colts draft this week. I don't know if it's number 474 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: two wide receiver confidence, But of that group, the guy 475 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: that I think has the biggest chance to be. As 476 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: Frank Reich and Chris Ballard have put it this offseason, 477 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, a formidable threat I think is kek Qt. 478 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: You know, he spent all of last season, a majority 479 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: of last season because he was active a couple of 480 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: times last year for the Colts, but he spent a 481 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: lot of last year on the practice squad and and 482 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: his thing has not been Kenny play. Can he produce 483 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: in the NFL? His thing has been similar to that 484 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: of Paris Campbell. Can he stay healthy? That was his 485 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: problem with the Houston Texans. But just watching him play, 486 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: and we know he can play because he's played very 487 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: well against the Colts. In fact, he's played his best 488 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: in his career against the Colts. I think from a 489 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: skill standpoint, there's no limitations to him in terms of 490 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: can he translate to the NFL. It's just cann he 491 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: stay healthy. And I think if he does stay healthy, 492 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: of that group, because I have seen him play on 493 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: Sundays and produce at a high level on Sundays, I 494 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: think of that group he has the highest probability, in 495 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, going into camp to kind of emerge from 496 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: that group and produce at a reasonably high level for 497 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: the Colts. Now, whatever that means is at three hundred yards, 498 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: four hundred yards, five hundred yards. I don't know if 499 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: it's going to be number two wide receiver production, but 500 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: I think he can obviously play at a reasonably high 501 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: level in the NFL. I hope that not only for 502 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: the production of the offense, but also so there's just 503 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: more excuses to play Drake in my feelings in Lucas 504 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: Oil Stadium, Keiki do you love me? Do you think 505 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: of that every time you hear kek QT? Guys? Come on, really, 506 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a big Drake guy. Okay, I 507 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: have never heard that song. But if you say so, 508 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: that's cool. I'm not shocked that mate hasn't heard that song. 509 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: I have heard it. I'm just not a big Drake guy. 510 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Loved playing against the Colts. He has three games, twenty 511 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: seven catches for three hundred and twenty eight yards in 512 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: four games. I mean, you know that getting him here, 513 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: he should look awesome in practice apparently. Um, but yeah, 514 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: I mean I like the thought mate, there that you 515 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: know he was kind of on the roster for the 516 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: whole year and you know, yeah, you talk about health. Uh, 517 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: you know, he only played six games his rookie year, 518 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: nine games his second year, eight games his third year 519 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: with Houston's former fourth round pick out of Texas Tech. 520 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: He's a talented player, my breakout guy, And I don't 521 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: know if you like solidify the number two, but I'm 522 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: just thinking about a guy who I do think will 523 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: have a breakout kind of year and molled into a 524 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: consistent factor within the offense. Is Ashton Doulon. I see 525 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: him being within that template of what you got from 526 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: Zach Pascal in season's past. I mean, you know, of 527 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: course twenty twenty one, we saw a bit of lower 528 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: production for Zach Pascal than what you were used to seeing, 529 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: but you still saw some of those big plays where 530 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: he was able to be that go to guy. And 531 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: I see that Ashton is emerging within that same type 532 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: of model that we saw from Zach Pascal comes in 533 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: as a guy who's an incredible contributor on special teams 534 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: if he has a chance to ascend within the offense. 535 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I think that he can follow a bit of that trajectory. 536 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: And I know that nothing terrifies Bubba intro War than 537 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: that because he knows he keeps losing his go too, 538 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: like special teams guys, special teams playmakers because they keep 539 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: emerging as factors in other areas. Yeah, if the question 540 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 1: is who do you feel more confident about being on 541 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: the roster, Ashton Doolan's going to be on the roster 542 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: if you asked him. He's you know, second team All 543 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: Pro and Special Teams and as as Lara said, he 544 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: did come on when the Colts needed him to in 545 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: the in the passing game last year as a wide receiver. 546 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, I still think that that qt. I think 547 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what the right phrase is, higher ceiling 548 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: just because I've seen it. It's not a projection. He 549 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: can play on Sundays in this league, but unfortunately his 550 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: progress has been derailed because he's had to sit on 551 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: the sideline because of injuries. I'm going to kind of 552 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: hedge here on mine, and I'm gonna say one of 553 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: at least one of Mike Strawn and Desmond Patman is 554 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: going to take a big step forward. I mean Desmond Patman. 555 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: Last year, for what it's worth, he led the NFL 556 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: in receiving guards in preseason. Mike Strawn, I mean, you 557 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: remember how awesome he looked in practice. He had ten 558 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and thirty yards in preseason, like 559 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: these guys have done it on a bit of a 560 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: smaller stage. Obviously, Patman that touchdown against Arizona was a 561 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: really really nice play. I think one of those guys 562 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: with their size, their speed, I think that with the 563 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: coaching of Reggie Wayne here and the direction given to 564 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: them by Matt Ryan, who Frank Reich said, you know, 565 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: as quarterback, you kind of have to be a wide 566 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: receivers coach. I think Matt Ryan coming in with the 567 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: experience he has, especially throwing to a guy like Julio Jones, 568 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: and again not comparing these guys to Julio, but that 569 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: kind of big body receiver. You know, what are you 570 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: looking for? Where do you want the ball placed on? 571 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: These things? I think that that can really benefit those 572 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: two guys. Let's get on here to what we're going 573 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: to talk about with the draft and start with Kevin Rodgers. 574 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: The interview we did director of player Personnel for the Colts, 575 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: So take a listen to this. It's a really informative 576 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: conversation we had with Kevin about the process of the 577 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Some things about this year's draft that are 578 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: a bit different, and then also some good stuff about 579 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: what the Colts decision to trade up to get Jonathan 580 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Taylor two years ago. Take a listen, all right. Our 581 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: guest today on the Official Colts Podcast is Colts Director 582 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: of Player Personnel Kevin Rogers. We're here to talk a 583 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: little bit about the upcoming NFL Draft, some NFL drafts 584 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: of years past, and a little bit of the Colts 585 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: off season. So Kevin, thanks for joining us here. You 586 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: got it. So this is kind of the first normal 587 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: draft period in the last couple of years, probably since 588 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, since you know, you were able to really 589 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: get out and do all the evaluations and have scouts 590 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: all over the country. And the other part of this 591 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: that seems normal is that it's just like you probably 592 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: have better access to players. That's not over zoom. It's 593 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: not kind of amid this kind of COVID limbo. How 594 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: is that all played out over the last couple of months, 595 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: as you know, the Colts have built the draft board 596 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: and doing all these evaluations. No, I think it was 597 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: it was two years of relative uncertainty compared to what 598 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: you're used to getting. And I think the biggest thing 599 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: is just being able to get your hands back on them. 600 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: With the combine, you know, the coaches talked to them 601 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: and informal interviews, you get them in the in the 602 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: top sixty formal interviews, you know, and then on top 603 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: of that, being able to get out private workouts, get 604 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: to the pro days, interact with the kid, take him 605 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: out to dinner, you know, meet their agent, meet their parents. 606 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's been a much more engaging process than 607 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: the past two years have allowed. And through with the 608 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: next pick, I've had the opportunity in producing it and 609 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: working with Colts Productions the past few seasons. We get 610 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: to know you guys, and so much about the process. 611 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: You've been with this organization for twenty years. How much 612 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: have you modified and seen this process evolve in your 613 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: two decades of scouting and specifically preparing for the draft itself. Well, 614 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, this is the third regime I've 615 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: been under here, and every regime does it different, you know. 616 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: I think I think Chris and Ed they both it's 617 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: as thorough process as I've ever been a part of. 618 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: Just with the amount of tape you watch, the amount 619 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: of time you spend together watching the tape, the character, 620 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: the interviews. I'm not sure it can evolve much more 621 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: than than it's evolved here. I think every stone has 622 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: been unturned with the way Chris runs things. And oh, 623 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: it's such a strong dynamic with you guys, with the 624 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: group that you have now going into essentially your your 625 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: five years of working together with this specific group of guys, 626 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: five six seasons, whatever it happens to be. What is 627 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: special about the group that you have and how much confident, 628 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: how much has that confidence grown in working together relying 629 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: on one another through this process. Now's I think that's 630 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: a good question. You know. I think when you're around people, 631 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: you no different than any profession. You learn how they work, 632 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: how they operate, how they see things. And I think, 633 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, we have a really good group. We have 634 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: a dichotomy. We have some older scouts, more experience, we 635 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: have some really young, excellent upcoming scouts. And I think 636 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the thing that the thing that I've noticed is that 637 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: when you're able to sit down in the draft room 638 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: with the general manager, with the assistant general manager, with 639 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: experienced scouts, watch tape, see what they see, I think 640 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: the learning curve, I mean, it's it's exponential, and I 641 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: think it's our young guys have grown so much because 642 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: of the way we we operate. Kevin, you said the 643 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, the haze in the barn, so to speak, right, 644 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: all the work is done for the most part, and 645 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: all those stones have been unturned here as we sit 646 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: here and talk. Right now, It's Tuesday of draft week 647 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: and then the first rounds Thursday, second rounds Friday. The 648 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Colts currently sitting number forty two on Friday. Just from 649 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: your standpoint, how how hard are these last couple of 650 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: days knowing that the work's ready but you have to 651 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: sit and wait. How excruciating is this? It's it's actually 652 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: probably the best week during the process because the haze 653 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: in the barn and now is when the real fun 654 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: conversations happen. Right, It's it's been three times going through 655 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: each player intail all right, um talking the character? You know, 656 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: who does this guy remind you of? Now? It's instead 657 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: of apples to apples, now it's apples to oranges. Right, 658 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: it's Hey, would you rather take this guy at this position? 659 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: This guy at this position? Why? And to me, that's 660 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: when the fun conversations having, Hey, should we trade down here? 661 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Should we go up and try to get this guy there. 662 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: I think this to me, this is a most enjoyable 663 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: week of the process. Do you guys talk about hypotheticals 664 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: like you know what the needs are for other teams 665 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: and where they might be leaning. Do you go into, hey, 666 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: if this happens, then we're gonna take this guy or 667 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: look for this team to maybe take this guy, and 668 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: if that happens, this is how we would pivot. Yeah. 669 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you want to spend too 670 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: much time over analyzing that ahead of time, but as 671 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: it gets closer to the pick, you certainly want to 672 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: calculate that. As you know, the Jonathan Taylor thing, right, 673 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean that that was one of those things, hey 674 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: do we want to risk sitting here? And it kind 675 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: of as players started peeling off the board, we said, hey, 676 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: let's let's go get them. So I think it's got 677 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: to be it's got to be closer to the point 678 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to outthink yourself. I want to ask 679 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: you about the Jonathan Taylor thing because we have a 680 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: little video coming out on Coltstock Comment on our social channels, 681 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: just looking back on that decision to go up and 682 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: get Jonathan Taylor moving up a couple of spots in 683 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty drafts. What stands out to you about 684 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: just like Chris's feel when it comes to the draft 685 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: and knowing when to go get a guy and when 686 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: to stay pat and when to trade back, because it 687 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: seems like he's had a ton of success with those 688 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: decisions as a general manager here, Chris, Chris does an 689 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: outstanding job. First, always a phenomenal evaluator. And then I 690 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: think the other thing Chris does it and I don't 691 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: know how he does it Personally. I'm not I'm not 692 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: a big phone guy. I'm not a big social guy. 693 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: But Chris is phenomenal at exercising his resources, talking to 694 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: as many people as he can, and he does more 695 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: reconnaissance work and who's into what, what, what players, what 696 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: coaches are on and with what programs. I mean, he's 697 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: phenomenal at it, and I think he more often than 698 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: not he calls the shots. As a guy, I start 699 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: peeling off and the second round, I mean, you just 700 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: mentioned Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman getting those guys in 701 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: the second round. The success that you had in eighteen, 702 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: that's where you got Braden Smith and Darius Leidhard and 703 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: things like that. But in this conversation that we had 704 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty, it was not only of course moving 705 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: up for Jonathan Taylor, but can you explain why it 706 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: went the way it fell out? You guys both you 707 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: liked both Jonathan and Michael Pittman, But why was it 708 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Pittman first? And then you did the work to make 709 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: sure you could secure jt as well? Sure? Now, And 710 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. And I think if 711 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: you look at the you know, the free agent market's 712 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: a good indicator that right receiver contracts are getting out 713 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: of this world, and you know, they've become a hot commodity. 714 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: That combined with the fact that the running back physician 715 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: has been diminished in recent seasons, and you know, we 716 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: looked at it. You know, te Higgins comes off the 717 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: board with the last pick of the pardon of me, 718 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the first pick of the second round, and we said, hey, 719 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: with all the receivers that went off in the first round, 720 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: we better make our move from Michael knowing full well, 721 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: knowing that there were still some backs on the board 722 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: that could come off ahead of us. So studed, Sam 723 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: pat and Unfortunately Jonathan was there when it was our 724 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: turn to make the call. Kevin, is this a deeper 725 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: draft just in terms of overall quantity because of guys 726 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: going back to school because of the COVID year and 727 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: how challenging has that become, you know, not not as 728 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: challenging as you would anticipated going into the year. It's 729 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: certainly more. I think there's a there's a far bigger 730 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: crop of undrafted free agents, but I don't think the 731 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: draftable crop is appreciably bigger this year was a year ago. 732 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: And the other thing that's added an element to it 733 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: is everybody's still in school got an extra year too, 734 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: so there's still some guys that could have come out 735 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: that went back. So I think it's going to be 736 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: a much more aggressive undrafted free agent market certainly than 737 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: we were in a year ago. Right. You know, last 738 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: year we signed a lot of veteran one and two 739 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: year players just because we knew the undrafted crop was 740 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: going to be thin. This year, I think you're going 741 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: to see a much more aggressive Colts team after the draft, Kevin. 742 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: One thing that when we heard from Ryan Kelly last week, 743 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: because of course players are getting back in the building, 744 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: it's such an exciting time. You got guys back for 745 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: offseason work, and then you're about to select this draft 746 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: class upcoming, and then you know, the month of May 747 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: gets incredibly busy with the dynamic of melding the old 748 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: and the new players. But Ryan hit on the emphasis 749 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: of you have so many guys who are in the 750 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: prime of their careers right now that you want to 751 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: capitalize on that having so many returning guys. Do you 752 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: guys in your draft room almost feel a little bit 753 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: of the same way in having a lot of interest 754 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: where you have guys who are in coveted positions here, 755 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: who have drawn interest from other teams, who have interviewed 756 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: for general manager job, and you know you've got a 757 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: special dynamic here. You want to capitalize on this brilliance 758 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: that you have with all of the wealth of talent 759 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: in your own draft room, that you want to capitalize 760 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: on that. I mean, every year you want to be competitive, 761 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: but even more so, you know you're not gonna be 762 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: able to bring the band back together year after year. Sure, Now, 763 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that's a great thing 764 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: about our room is you know, for one, Chris promotes 765 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: people moving upward and onward with their career, and I 766 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: think we're in a room where it fosters growth and 767 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: nobody's inhibited dissension is encouraged. Right. He wants, he wants 768 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: difference of opinion, and I think it promote even if 769 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: we do lose somebody. I think the way that that 770 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: our draft room operates, I think we're ready to just 771 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: step in and replace should we lose anyone. I want 772 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: to go back to the undrafted free agents because you 773 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: mentioned that's probably a deeper pool of players this year. 774 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: How do you go about whittling that down? Because it, 775 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: as I imagine it, you're dealing with hundreds of players 776 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: who could be in that pool, who could potentially be 777 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: signed to be brought in, you know, in training campus 778 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: and the draft, free agent, or in a tryout. What's 779 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: the process of whittling that down versus you know, obviously 780 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: getting the guys on the draft board who you believe 781 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: could be drafted. Sure, now that's a good questions. They're 782 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: multiple layers to that, right. So we have players that 783 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: maybe a scout gave a draftable grade that has fallen 784 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: off the board. We go back and analyze him to 785 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: see if hey, that the scout like this guy, let's 786 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: see why, why does he not deserve to be on 787 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: the board. Hey, there's still got to be something there. 788 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: Let's prioritize him. Right. You have the testing numbers, the 789 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: guys that maybe weren't quite on the radar, that blow 790 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: out their pro day, blow out the combine. You know, 791 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: we divide those guys up amongst the pro department, and 792 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 1: each scout has set positions and they'll they'll go back 793 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: and we get the numbers every day, daily, and we'll 794 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: check them. Hey, this guy tested well, we'll put on 795 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: the workout, we'll put on the tape. If it's good, Boom, 796 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: He's at the top. Right. So there are multiple layers 797 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: to that process, and it's going to be critical for 798 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: us to get some young talent this year. I mean, 799 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: you think about some of the undrafted free agents on 800 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: this team. Obviously kennymore the second you know it was 801 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: up there. Jack Doyle was a guy who was an 802 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Just that the importance of that, I 803 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: think sometimes when he gets lost in this draft process 804 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: that it's the player acquisition doesn't end at the draft. 805 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: It almost can sometimes kind of ramp up in the 806 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours after the draft. No, 807 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: and I think you know, everything kind of starts with 808 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: the draft right then. Really, the the pro side of 809 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: scouting starts after the draft. Right there they are no 810 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: longer college guys, and you know that's when the workouts 811 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: will start. If there's still a guy in the street 812 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: that had some numbers, will get them in kick the tires. 813 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: One thing Chris says is, hey, if you can get 814 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: one percent better even with your ninetieth guy, let's let's 815 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: get that one percent better. So that process it never stops. 816 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: And the more you know, the more you know, rocks 817 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: you flip over. You never know what you're gonna find. 818 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm stealing a stat right here from from Laura Rutledge 819 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: and I retweeted it. But she said just four days 820 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: away from the NFL draft this tweet twet tweeted out 821 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: easier for me to say. Worth remembering how significant Day 822 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: two and Day three are. Among active NFL players in 823 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, sixty six percent were drafted after the 824 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: third round or went undrafted. How much of that is 825 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: trying to anticipate certain positions or certain guys you might 826 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: be able to catch later who are talent you think 827 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: could have been taken higher. How much of that prediction 828 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: in is there, and how much emphasis in there is, 829 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: how much emphasis is there on the impact that those 830 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: later rounds do have Days two and three? Now, I mean, 831 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: I think you know, expectations change from round a round, 832 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: but you know, I think as you get to the 833 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: bottom half of the draft and even undrafted free agency, 834 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: you want to be a little less picky. What can 835 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: the guide do? Right, It's it's not so much poking holes, right. 836 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: The guys at the top, you want to say, let's 837 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: make sure this guy is as clean as a driven snow. 838 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: Let's fire every bullet in and we can. As you 839 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: get down further, you know, what does this guy have speed? 840 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: Does he have strength? Does he have something unique that 841 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: gives him a chance? Right? I mean EJ speed, long, fast, athletic, 842 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, a smaller school, but but it gave him 843 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: a chance. Um. You know, guys like that are the 844 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: ones that you know, if you take a shot on 845 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: him late, they get a chance to pan out. Kevin, 846 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: last one for me, just what's the draft room like 847 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: on on draft night? Everybody thinks it's like the movies 848 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: with the phones ringing and side conversations, screaming and yelling. 849 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: Chaos is unfolding, people yelling at TVs. How how true 850 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: or false? Is that very false? It's about it's like that, 851 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: probably about five picks before you're on the clock, and 852 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: then it dies down again. So it's a lot of 853 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: hurry up and wait, um, you know, a lot of 854 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: banter just with a you know, this guy went off, 855 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: you had him here. I was right on this guy. 856 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of yeah, scout jargon, But as far 857 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: as the madness and the and the you know, the 858 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: wolf on Wall Street, there's not that at all. I 859 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: would love to see that. Can you can you imagine? 860 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I was thinking about like the Leanodardcaprio, like 861 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: where he's standing up in front of like the whole 862 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: trading room. It's I'm not going anywhere, right, isn't I'm 863 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: not Hey, it's a movie reference made, Thanks guys. I'm 864 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: trying to try reference. I try out a movie buff. No, 865 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: she hasn't seen Christmas Vacation. Like that's the level I 866 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: look like Jeane Siskel compared to you movie knowledge. Should 867 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: I not talk to her? Yeah? Yeah, for multiple reasons. 868 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: But not just that vill played, Sir Kevin. One thing 869 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: that we get to see when we do get into 870 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: with the next pick, and we've seen it in previous 871 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: seasons that I think Frank really enjoys being in there 872 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: with you guys, and you guys lean a lot on 873 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: his opinions. How valuable is it to have the coaches 874 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: in their especially with a new defensive scheme, and you 875 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: have guys who have been in this position before. Gus 876 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: Bradley has been a head coach, John Fox been a 877 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: head coach, and now those guys are part of our process. No, 878 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: it's for one, it's important just to get on the 879 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: same page, you know, and Gus has been phenomenal given 880 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: us his time and explaining what the difference, what the 881 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: subtle differences between what we were a year ago and 882 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: what we're going to be now. And then I think 883 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: the other key element of it is, and it's it's 884 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: not always an easy thing in the NFL, is to 885 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: have that mutual respect between coaching and scouting. Right, I 886 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: think there's there's a natural, you know, tug a war 887 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: between those two. But when when there's not, when it's healthy, 888 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: which is something I think we have and I think 889 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: it's very unique. I think it can really take you 890 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: to the next level. Last one here for you, Kevin. Um. 891 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, before we let you get out here, I 892 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: did want to ask you about the some of the 893 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: additions made on the pro side already obviously Matt Ryan, 894 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: Unique and Gok ways to find Gilmore. Three pretty big 895 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: names around the NFL and three players with a lot 896 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: of proven production. What's their fit on this team? Just 897 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: from a you know, a talent standpoint, but also just 898 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: from a character and a leadership standpoint. Now, I mean, 899 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: I think when you talk about getting three, you know, 900 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: high end players that have proven it, and then you 901 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: take all three guys or high end character guys. You know, 902 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: that's a unique thing, especially in free agency. Um. You 903 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: know Matt Ryan accomplished quarterback that I mean was was 904 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: the heart and soul of Atlanta for years. I think 905 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: he's already making his imprint on our locker room. M Janick. 906 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean we know him very well. I mean, played 907 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: against him in Jacksonville, gave us fits for years, had 908 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: nothing people have had nothing but phenomenal things to say 909 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: about him. He's going to be great for our young, 910 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: our young pass rushers, in that room, and then Gilmore, 911 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: I mean really has been playing at a high level. 912 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: It was just you know, the injury and you know 913 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: the medical check that well, and he's going to be 914 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: phenomenal for our back end. You know, you can never 915 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: have too many veteran leaders, and all three of those 916 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: guys are are gonna make a big impact for US. Kevin. 917 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: Last year, we had the opportunity to launch our Declassified 918 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: series where we sat down with Todd Basbari and he 919 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 1: went through some of the scouting reports that he'd done. 920 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: You've had a number of different roles within this organization. 921 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: Do you have a particular either favorite player that you 922 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: were involved in scouting or just a favorite story like 923 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: from an evaluation period that sticks out to you. For example, 924 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that you were the cross check 925 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: on Jonathan Taylor. Tyler Hughes was the area guy, but 926 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 1: you have a lot of guys that you're the cross 927 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: check on of late. But you've been boots on the 928 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: ground for a really long time in terms of, you know, 929 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: building players and assessing players and trying to anticipate their 930 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: success in league. No, I think I think the most 931 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: rewarding thing is when you find a guy on the street, 932 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: or find a guy in the way of a wire 933 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: that turns out to be a player. And uh, you know, 934 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore was one of those guys, you know, both 935 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: myself and Boyd Jackson. We had the Patriots that preseason 936 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: and I thought I thought New England was going to 937 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: keep him, you know, just the performance he had on 938 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 1: special teams. He showed natural instincts. I thought he could 939 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: play nickel. They really didn't use him there, but I 940 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: thought he could do it, um, you know, and we 941 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: got him here and he was even better than advertised. 942 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: The character, the work ethic, and he was probably even 943 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: more talented than I thought he was. But but to 944 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: see a guy like that come in and make an impact, 945 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,959 Speaker 1: it's it's rewarding. It's funny you mentioned that, just because 946 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: when we had a chance to sit down to Stefan 947 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: Gilmore upon signing him, he may mention of that that 948 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: camp in twenty seventeen in New England where he's like, 949 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, we had a bunch of veteran guys, you 950 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: know me and you know the mccordy, and he's like 951 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: done this guy, Kenny Moore, He's shoot, he's out here 952 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: balling too, like they and like Tom Brady, you think 953 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: about all like those conversations. I got air Don hard 954 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: knocks like those guys, remember Kenny and lucky to have 955 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: him here. That's not sure. Now, I think you look 956 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: at those teams that they have a little more depth 957 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: at the position and that's where the players shake out. 958 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, well, we really appreciate at the time. Here 959 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: that's Kevin Rodgers, Colts director of player Personnel. Again, appreciate Kevin. 960 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: You got a guess, all right, So let's talk about 961 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: some of the positions of need out there for the 962 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: Colts in the NFL draft. And mate, you've you've selected 963 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: four different categories for us to put these in. So 964 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: we have tackle, wide receiver, quarterback, and tight end. And 965 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: the categories are scalding, boiling, lukewarm, and room temperature. Yeah, 966 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 1: this is the draft thermometer. How hot are the needs? Right? 967 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: So offensive tackle is first, and this I think, along 968 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: with wide receiver has been thrown out there, you know 969 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: in the mock drafts. In the mock are the draft 970 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: analysts and then just you know, talk radio is the 971 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: two positions that get talk about the most. So I 972 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: would say within offensive tackle I've got it guys at 973 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: boiling because Matt Pryor is the front runner for the 974 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: jobs of right now. But the Colts need depth. They 975 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: only have four tackles on the roster at at the 976 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: moment and outside of your starters if you played a 977 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: game today. Starters meaning Braden Smith at right tackle prior 978 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: at left tackle. Um. The other guys have never played 979 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: an NFL snap. One guy hasn't played in the game 980 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: since two thy seventeen. So for depth purposes, I've got 981 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: it as pretty hot. I've got it at boiling. Got 982 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: scalding is where I took it. That's the scalding being 983 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: hotter than boiling, which is a yes. That's one of 984 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: the things I asked though by this was your range 985 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: though that we are using scientific Yeah, I don't know, 986 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 1: but this is just yeah to me. I think it's 987 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: probably the greatest need that you have also because you 988 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: do need depth at the at the offensive line position. 989 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: You've seen guys who have been rotational, guys who have 990 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: departed and gone on to other places. It was, I 991 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: mean massively obvious in that Christmas Night game in Arizona 992 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: that depth that was necessary, not just at tackle but 993 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: across the offensive line. I mean, tackle certainly was a 994 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: part of that, and over the course of the season, 995 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: really with Eric Fisher coming off of that achilles injury 996 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, I'm gonna go that's probably, to 997 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: me the hottest position group. I'm gonna go, lukewarm wow. 998 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: And you guys are all right about needing depth, you know, 999 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: needing potentially someone to come in and compete with Matt 1000 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: pryor who will get the first crack at left tackle. 1001 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: But the way that that was kind of phrased is 1002 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: he'll get the first shot, but maybe there'll be some 1003 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: competition there. But it's hard to find left tackles at 1004 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: this in the stage of the draft where the cultively 1005 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: picking at forty two, seventy three and then into the 1006 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: into Day three, it's really hard to find those guys. 1007 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, remember last year howeveryone thought the Colt's biggest 1008 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: need is at left tackle and Chris Ballard didn't take 1009 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: one at all really in the draft. That's because it's 1010 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to find those guys that it once you 1011 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,439 Speaker 1: get beyond the top couple of guys like this year, 1012 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, once you get beyond Evan neil Ikey Akwanu, 1013 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: Charles Cross. You know, maybe you could throw a Chevor Penning, 1014 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 1: Bernard Raymond in there once you get kind of beyond 1015 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: that group. If none of those guys are available when 1016 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: the Colts have their first pick, it's hard to find 1017 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: a left tack Loo can come in and start it 1018 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: just is I agree with that. I put I put 1019 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: it higher because of depth, because I completely agree with you. 1020 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: But in just some terms of depth overall bodies right now, 1021 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: you need more and I think you can identify you 1022 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: can get those guys. Yeah, in the draft, post draft, 1023 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: in the priority free agent pool as well as then 1024 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 1: in free agency. Let's go on to wide receiver, Maytay, 1025 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: what do you got? I got it at boiling, which 1026 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: is a hair under scalding for this exercise. So I've 1027 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: got whether it's the second round or third round, I 1028 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: think wide receivers bound to be the best player available 1029 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: on the Colts board. So that's day two of the draft. 1030 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: More high end weapons to compliment Matt Ryan. That would 1031 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: be attractive for the Colts because the NFL's proving you 1032 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: need high end wide receivers in this day and age, 1033 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard believes the best way to find those 1034 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: guys in the draft versus getting involved in the escalating 1035 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: demands of the top tier receivers who have hit the 1036 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: open market this offseason free agent. We talked about that 1037 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: in the press conference last Friday. So I've got it 1038 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: at boiling, same boiling, That's exactly where I have it 1039 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: as well. I think that you're looking to reinforce that area, 1040 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: provide Matt Ryan with some other weapons. And it is 1041 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: as we heard from Kevin Rodgers, it's a deeper draft 1042 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: pool this year for a number of different reasons, and 1043 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: you have seen the ability to find, you know, very 1044 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: strong wide receiver talent, in particular in that day to 1045 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: area round two and three. I have it at scalding 1046 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: because the Colts haven't They've only had subtractions from that 1047 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: room since the end of the season, whether it's Zac, 1048 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: Pascal Eagle, Argue, Reggie Wayne' an addition into that. Right, 1049 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: that's a good point. Reggie Wayne is in addition to 1050 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: that room, the guy always I could probably still suit 1051 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: up and you know, go five. I wanted to u 1052 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 1: the guys who are on the field. Uh, it's only 1053 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 1: been some tractions. You know. T Y Hilton is still 1054 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 1: free agent will see what comes of that after the draft. Um. 1055 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: But I think that you know, when we talk about 1056 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 1: the guys who we think could be you know, could 1057 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: could take a step forward to Kiki Qt, Desmond Patman, 1058 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: Mike Strawn, Paris Campbell, Ashton dool and those guys. You 1059 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: add another name in there too, uh, in this NFL 1060 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: draft that gives you more options for spreading the ball around, 1061 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, different skill sets here and there. Um. I 1062 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: think that coming away from this draft with a wide 1063 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: receiver or two is you know, probably going to be 1064 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: something you'll see. Now again, I don't know when that 1065 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: will be. The board has to fall to them, and 1066 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,479 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard has shown he is not going to reach 1067 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: to take a wide receiver to as folks who are 1068 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: clamoring for it. But I think you'll probably see a 1069 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver at some point, just based again on their 1070 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: only being subtractions from that room. I also think that 1071 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: there are still it's worth noting some attractive free agent 1072 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver prospects who are out on the market and 1073 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: still available. So should you not address it in the draft, 1074 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: you have other ways, but you can address that we 1075 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: saw with Eric Fisher a year ago. Quarterback. What are 1076 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: we talking about here, guys, I got it, Room Temp Yeah, 1077 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: Room Temp. Lukewarm, I got it, room tamp Yeah. I 1078 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: mean Matt Ryan he can still play. You've got him 1079 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: for two years. He wants to play into his forties 1080 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: as of now, there's no reason why I think he 1081 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: can't do that. Plus with him being here, this gives 1082 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: you more time to evaluate quarterback and make sure you 1083 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 1: get it right when you do make a bold move. 1084 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: Not saying that the bold move will not happen in 1085 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,959 Speaker 1: this draft, but as we've heard this entire time since 1086 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: the combine forward, that this group of quarterbacks it's not 1087 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: up to par with what we've seen in terms of 1088 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: guys available in the first round or second round. Plus 1089 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: you've got a guy they really still like on the roster. 1090 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger is still here. We forget about that. They 1091 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 1: want to continue to develop and groom him. So I've 1092 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: got it, as you know, Lukewarm tomato soup, Yeah, I 1093 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: think yeah, Room Temple was mine. I mean, look, you're 1094 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: you're not drafting for this year. You're drafting for the 1095 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 1: next four years with these picks. But that being said, 1096 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: the cold like it's going back to the discussion we 1097 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: had with Rank, you know, with Ryan Kelly about a 1098 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys being in their primes. If you're drafting 1099 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback to be your third stringer, because that's what 1100 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: he would be because against Sam Ellinger, like you mentioned, 1101 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: he's the backup quarterback. That doesn't augment your roster right 1102 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: now in the next probably two years, maybe longer. I 1103 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: mean Matt Ryan could play out. It could be a 1104 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: situation like we're seeing with Jordan Love in Green Bay 1105 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo in New England, where you draft these 1106 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,720 Speaker 1: guys thinking, all right, he's going to be the eventual 1107 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: replacement in the second round, and then all of a sudden, 1108 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: the backs you have in place just blow away your 1109 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: expectations of how long and how well they can play. 1110 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: So when you're looking at building out this roster for 1111 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: the next four years, drafting a quarterback doesn't totally make 1112 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: a ton of sense unless you think that guy can 1113 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: be a legitimate starter in the NFL in that span. 1114 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: If you if you think that and you believe that 1115 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: in your evaluation tells you that, then you go get 1116 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: that guy. Because getting a quarterback is the hardest thing 1117 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: to do in the NFL. So I'm not saying the 1118 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: Colts aren't going to take a quarterback, but it would 1119 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: have to be the perfect fit for them at number 1120 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: forty two or at number seventy three or later on 1121 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. Right, last one tight end, what are 1122 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: we thinking? I got it boiling because I think you 1123 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: just you need at least one more. I think kyl 1124 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: and Grantson certainly in for a bigger role next season, 1125 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 1: but that's a big jump to ask him to get 1126 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: into the Jack Doyle blocking efficiency neighborhood. And I know 1127 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: the Colts would love to have two tight ends on 1128 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: the field of the time and not be able to 1129 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: tip their hand on if it's run or pass in 1130 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: terms of the formation. So getting someone from college that 1131 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: can do both at a pretty decent level, I think 1132 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: would still be attractive. And I think you can get 1133 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: a contributing tight end next season on Day three, fourth 1134 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: fifth round. I think there's still good value there. So 1135 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: I think in terms of need and how hot it is, 1136 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: I've got it at boiling. I have it at lukewarm, 1137 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: mainly because I think that kind of to Matt's point 1138 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: he's talking about Day three, I think tight end might 1139 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,479 Speaker 1: be an area you can address in the undrafted free 1140 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 1: agent point, just like what we heard from Kevin saying 1141 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: that that is going to be at a premium this 1142 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: year to identify guys in those areas. So that's the 1143 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: only reason it is a need. But I think it's 1144 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: one that you cannot spend a draft pick on and 1145 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: probably get a high caliber type of product to prospect 1146 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: there who can be a difference maker more offense. I 1147 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: think you're right. Bigger picture, you look at last year, 1148 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 1: there was not an undrafted free agent that made the 1149 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: roster last year. This year you could have five m 1150 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: several handful of them. Yeah, it ended the streak last 1151 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 1: year twenty two out of twenty three years. But I 1152 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: mean think about the Colts tight ends last year who 1153 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: played the most stamps. They're both undrafted free agents, Jack 1154 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,959 Speaker 1: Doyle and Moli Cox. So I I think I agree 1155 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: with both of you on that. I kind of put 1156 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: it up boiling just for more of the reasons. It 1157 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: may taste said about, you know, getting into twelve personnel, 1158 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: but it's somewhere in that range. All right, let's go 1159 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: to our mail bag. We have one question this week 1160 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: we want to answer. Here's the mail It never fills 1161 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: and makes me want to wag my tail. You know, Dad, 1162 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: when you know Blues Clues but you don't know Drake. 1163 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,479 Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a very good point. It's 1164 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: sad that two weeks ago when we did our first 1165 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: mail bag podcast, that's the first thing that popped into 1166 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: my head. Warped. Yeah, but yeah, I think it's a 1167 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: bad move. Look you your brain, that's what you're exposed to, mate. 1168 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: I think I think it's great. It's trying to bring 1169 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: some street credibility to the show. We have a different audience. Yeah, right, 1170 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 1: all right. Our male bad question this week comes from 1171 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: at Terry Nance one two four at yahoo dot com. 1172 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: Do you think there is a possibility to the Chris 1173 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: Ballad will slide up into the first round for a 1174 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver. I know he said it have to be 1175 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: a blue chip player, but doesn't it seem like those 1176 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: type of players would go in the first round? Yes, 1177 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: yes and no? Right, I agree, Yes, it seems like 1178 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: those players go in the first round. But no, I 1179 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: don't think you're going to see a move up. One. 1180 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you have a capital to do it, 1181 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: for one. But then also there's a tweet from yesterday 1182 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: that Adam Schefter put out, and he said within the 1183 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: past week, as the draft is drawn closer, multiple deans 1184 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: in the top half of the draft have inquired with 1185 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: others to try to trade back in the first round. 1186 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: Per sources, So far of the interest in moving back 1187 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: in Thursday's draft has greatly exceeded the interest in moving up. 1188 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: And I was listening to something earlier today that said 1189 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: the top ten picks are pretty strong, but then beyond that, 1190 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: like kind of you know that that ten through forty 1191 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: to fifty pool, it's really round three. Yeah, it's a three, yes, exactly. 1192 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: So that's why I just don't think this is the 1193 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: year you see it done. Not that I don't think 1194 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: that Chris would do it if he found an ideal 1195 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: situation in another year. I just don't think that it's 1196 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: playing out that this is the year you're going to 1197 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: see those types of moths. I mean, Chris Ballard talked 1198 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: last week about, you know that the value between pick 1199 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: twenty and pick forty is pretty similar, and you know 1200 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: that probably goes for every draft, but this year it 1201 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: seems like there are you know, again, based on that, 1202 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of teams are trying to trade down. That 1203 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 1: tells you a lot of teams are are thinking that way, 1204 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: that their value, you know, between the middle of the 1205 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: first round and maybe the middle of the second round 1206 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: is pretty similar. So the Colts having one of those 1207 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: picks in the middle of the second round, I guess 1208 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: it would surprise me if they went up into the 1209 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: first round, right. But we've seen Chris Ballard. We know, 1210 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: we just talked to Kevin Rodgers about the trade up 1211 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: for Jonathan Taylor. If you got a guy and you're 1212 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: starting to sense he might not be here in a 1213 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 1: couple of picks, then yeah, you know, we've seen Chris 1214 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Ballard target those guys and go up and get them 1215 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: and be successful doing that. We didn't get to the 1216 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: question from Todd Holiday on Twitter, which was great and 1217 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: I just want to read it to acknowledge it. If 1218 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: you have to bet your peloton on what position other 1219 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: than kicker the Colts won't draft this week when all 1220 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: seven rounds are complete, what would it be? And if 1221 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: you don't own him one you can bet Lara's why 1222 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: is mine up for grabs? I love that I don't 1223 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: know people's money. Yeah, I don't know what a peloton. 1224 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: But I'll bet your peloton. I mean, I'm not betting 1225 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: my peloton. Butt. I got a few thoughts on this, 1226 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, twet tweet us your answers to that question, 1227 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: and maybe we can bet Lara's peet snapper on it 1228 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: long snapper. They probably won't draft a long snapper. Luke 1229 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Rhodes pro punter. Those are pretty good will linebacker. Yeah, 1230 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty deep. See we answered the question. All right, Hey, 1231 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: we got to get to Mate's random thought of the 1232 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: week before we get out of here. Mate, random thought? 1233 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh week, and why is the carpet all went Todd, 1234 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't know Mark, You guys going out of time? 1235 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: Does this chooth push your food by American Gentile Association? 1236 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: If it's cold there? If these vans get good gasp mileage, 1237 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: he'll fast? Does this thing go? Does it have automatic transmission? 1238 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Does it have four wheel drive? Shot off? All right? 1239 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: The random thought of the week in line with the 1240 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft coming up Thursday, Friday and Saturday, guys, if 1241 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: you were an NFL draft prospect, how would you, guys 1242 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: go about watching the draft? What would you do during 1243 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: the draft? And then how would you celebrate being drafted? Round. 1244 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Am I projected to go in because that's going to 1245 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: be very Yeah, I think we're talking first round. Oh 1246 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm going I want all the fanfare. I want to 1247 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: be like I want to float across across the pool 1248 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: at the Babblagio out like full tilt, like yes, it's 1249 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: full send. If I'm going in the draft like I want, 1250 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: like the the table is going to be ridiculous because, um, 1251 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: so my parents are divorced and remarried, so I got 1252 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: like four parents, and then I got like my siblings 1253 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: and I got my husband's family. So there I would 1254 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: need like three tables for just like the family. Like 1255 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm going all over the top. You get this one time? Yes, absolutely, 1256 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm there. I'm in Vegas. Uh yeah. I want to 1257 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: glide across the fountains. I want the photo op with 1258 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Goodell where he's probably gonna botch my name because he's 1259 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: not gonna say Lara, It'll be Laura or something, you know, 1260 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: defensive end and the end. Yeah, yo, may take can 1261 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: I can? I guess what yours is? Okay, Maysa's watching 1262 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: at home on the south side. Yeah, you're watching it 1263 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: at home. Yep, you got a twelve pack of you know, 1264 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: your light beer choice. You got some buddies over, you 1265 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: got your parents there, you got you know, a couple 1266 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: of friends. Ye got a fire pit going outside if 1267 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: it gets late into the night because the draft doesn't 1268 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: start until eight o'clock here in Eastern time, which is 1269 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: the worst time zone ever, And you're just kind of 1270 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: hanging out having a very relaxing evening and knowing that 1271 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm coming into money. I book and Helen likes Spaccoli 1272 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: to play my birthday party in the backyard. So yeah, 1273 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: that's pretty close. Absolutely, how about you. I think I'm 1274 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of you guys. I think I would 1275 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: like to do it at like a like a good restaurant, 1276 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Like let's get some friends together at a restaurant and 1277 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: have like a nice, nice dinner on the table, I mean, 1278 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Jardinara all over the table, just jars of Marconi for everyone, 1279 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, absolutely, I'm I'm you know what, forget it, 1280 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm having it at Portillo's, you guys. So a little 1281 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: inside inside baseball here, JJ brings his jar of Jardinara 1282 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: to the lunch room to supplement his lunch on a 1283 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: near daily basis. So my look, the Colts Cafe has 1284 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: delicious food, and I get a stir fry bowl with 1285 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: no sauce. It's brown rice loaded up with veggies and chicken. 1286 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 1: And then you throw the jardinara on there. The jardinara 1287 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: kind of gets into the rice, the oil gets into 1288 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: the rice. It tastes beautiful, it's healthy, and it is delicious. 1289 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,439 Speaker 1: And I put jardinara on everything. So I'll take I'll 1290 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: take your jardinar and raise you. I want like a 1291 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Wayne Newton, you know, like with me on my on 1292 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: my boat, miss draft pick and you got wings on 1293 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, let's just turned into a beauty page 1294 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I don't know, I don't 1295 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: know why. At defensive end, yes, this is good tweet us. 1296 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: What you would do with you being a first round 1297 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: draft pick, how you would watch it, How you would say, Vegas, 1298 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: you gotta go over the top. If there's everybody, if 1299 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: there's ever an opportunity, I'm specifically talking this draft. So yeah, yeah, yeah, 1300 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: this is if you're ever gonna go go big or 1301 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: go home. It is Las Vegas Draft. We're gonna have 1302 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: plenty of coverage of the NFL Draft coming up here 1303 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: on colds dot Com, on Cold Social channels, and on 1304 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network over the next couple of days. Wednesday, 1305 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: that's tomorrow, we got a couple of interviews with some 1306 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: players here we're gonna have on the cold Saudio Network. 1307 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Matay and I are going to sit down with someone 1308 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: and to be determined. Check out that. That's a player 1309 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: to be named later. Yeah, baseball, that's a baseball term 1310 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 1: right there. Check out that on the Colds Audio Network 1311 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: on Friday, Day one, reaction of the draft on the 1312 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: Last Word go check that out whether you're listening to 1313 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: it live on the radio or here on the Colts 1314 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Audio Network. We're gonna have audio interviews with all the 1315 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: Colds draft picks after they are selected on Friday and Saturday, 1316 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: or maybe Thursday again, not ruling it out, but probably 1317 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,959 Speaker 1: not super likely. Matey and Rick vent Teria, you guys 1318 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: are going to be doing draft updates twice an hour 1319 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the 1320 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Fan during the draft Thursday night and Friday night. You 1321 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: can join the Colts Draft party on Friday night at 1322 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Kilroys and Broad Ripple. Go buy Rick vent Teria beer 1323 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: or what do they have there, the Mazza Realistics, The 1324 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Breadsticks stick. Yeah sorry, I'm not an eye you guy. 1325 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Still somewhat new in town. Go buy Rick VENTTERI the Breadsticks. 1326 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Matt and Riccordy are going to be breaking down every 1327 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: day of the draft. Following the cold draft picks, check 1328 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: out episode three with the next pick, which again drops 1329 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: later on Tuesday. I'm gonna have a big draft preview 1330 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: up Oncolts dot com and analysis of every single draft 1331 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: pick the Colts have over the weekend. Did I miss anything? 1332 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,919 Speaker 1: That's it. We're loaded man, busy, busy weekend. And then 1333 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: next week on the official Colts podcast, we are going 1334 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: to break down the Colts draft again from you know, 1335 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 1: with a little bit of time to think about it. 1336 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: More conversations with Frank Rich and Chris Ballard about it. 1337 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Big week coming up here Tuesday night with the next pick. 1338 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Watch it, absolutely watch it for Lara Overton and Matt Taylor. 1339 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm JJ Stankevitz. Thank you so much for watching. Please rate, 1340 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: review and subscribe to the Colts Audio Network so you 1341 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: don't miss any of our great content coming out over 1342 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Give us a five star 1343 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: review and we will talk to you next week here 1344 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: on the official Colts Podcast, presented by Windbeck