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Speaker 1: NFL dot com, Slash Podcasts, iTunes and Stitcher. And now

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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, he is off for the week. Matt money

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Speaker 1: Smith and sitting in with Bucky Brooks. And it's like

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Speaker 1: the salad days, Buck, when we used to do not

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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks, but the College Football Seven or the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft Tracker podcast analyzing college football and mascots and players.

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Speaker 1: I did, and you would? You would do? You put

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Speaker 1: your fancy scout hat on, which for those that don't know,

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Speaker 1: uh is a fedora with a pencil. Talk to the

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Speaker 1: as you were scouting all these dudes. We have got

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Speaker 1: four great teams, too, great games for our college football

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Speaker 1: playoff this year. They will both be played on New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Won the Peach Bull Alabama Washington to the

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Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl Clemson, Ohio State. Let's go with the two

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Speaker 1: versus three matchup first, and we'll start with why college

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Speaker 1: football coaches that are very good make a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of money, and that is when you look at the

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Speaker 1: talent that Urban Meyer lost to the NFL Draft this

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Speaker 1: how good he is it recruiting and what he is

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Speaker 1: able to overcome at all three levels of his defense.

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Speaker 1: The type of hit that he took, he's unbelievable and

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Speaker 1: is one that doesn't bend but don't break, but they

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Speaker 1: They're going to make it challenging for Deshaun Watson the

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Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers to find big plays. And then up front,

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Speaker 1: there as physical as any defense you can find, they

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Speaker 1: you out, and have so many young players playing at

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Speaker 1: mind his ability to recruit, but Greg Ciano's ability to

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Speaker 1: to slow down to Shaun Watson. So help me, or

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Speaker 1: The expectations for Deshaun Watson were so high and Clemson

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Speaker 1: He he has built a big, physical team, a team

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Speaker 1: have different weight divisions, weight classes. As the bigger team,

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Speaker 1: So you're taking Alabama, But Alabama Alabama, Cleps and Jay

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Speaker 1: I should say, row the boat Wisconsin or Western Michigan

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Speaker 1: He didn't get a job. No, he did not. We

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Speaker 1: he's got his eyes on something now, Yeah, Western Michigan,

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Speaker 1: that's what he hears his eyes on. What am I

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Speaker 1: the reason I go with that typically in bowl games,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think they'll be um intimidated or there

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Speaker 1: I think they're athletes on the perimeter, particularly Corey Davis,

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Speaker 1: of kind they kind of banged up, like Wisconsin is

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Speaker 1: a little banged not surprising that they're It's tough. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Western Michigan. Rode a boat will have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity, Another inframercial boat, another a for mercy. Do

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Speaker 1: you want a great speech rotor boat? All right? Bucky

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Uh DJ will be back on the next

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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast. Enjoy the Bowl games, Enjoy the

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Speaker 1: week's seventeen games, and uh yeah, fantastic. Thanks for having me, Buck, Hey,

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