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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to the Jack Doyle Podcast. I'm Matt

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Speaker 2: Taylor with the awesome and the fantastic Jack Doyle and

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving. This podcast coming out on Thursday of this week,

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day, so appreciate you letting us be part of

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Speaker 2: your holiday and part of your traditions. As the Colts

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Speaker 2: get ready for a Week thirteen matchup and a return

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Speaker 2: home to the friendly confines of Lucas Oil Stadium to

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Speaker 2: take on the Houston Texans. It's the first AFC South

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Speaker 2: game in quite a while, and it's the first home

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Speaker 2: game for the Colts in five weeks, as they've had

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Speaker 2: a bye week trips to Berlin and Pittsburgh and Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: So it's good to be back in Indianapolis. Jack Doyle,

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Speaker 2: how are you man? Good to see again?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing well, Matt.

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Speaker 3: You know, a little disappointed after this weekend's result, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Thankful for a lot of things, health

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Speaker 3: and family and all that fun stuff. But excited for

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Speaker 3: the Colts to be back home. And it's always good

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Speaker 3: to play at home when you know, on a holiday

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Speaker 3: week or whatever. For the guys, get a bunch of

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Speaker 3: family in town. You know, should get some good vibes,

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Speaker 3: good moods going into the game, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna talk all about Thanksgiving, you know, how

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Speaker 2: players deal with the holidays smack dab in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the week, we'll talk about the fallout from the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs game. Talk about obviously what's coming up this Sunday

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Speaker 2: against the Houston Texans. Man, this is a major game

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Speaker 2: for the Colts. Back to back games coming up inside

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Speaker 2: the AFC South for Indianapolis. And listen, the math doesn't

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Speaker 2: say that there must win and their end all be all,

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Speaker 2: but it sure feels like, you know, with two losses

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Speaker 2: in the last three games for the Colts, and the Colts,

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Speaker 2: let's just put it out there, they're not getting any

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Speaker 2: help from anybody losing games in the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: so they find themselves in a dogfight, believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: After an eight and three start, they still have accomplished nothing,

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Speaker 2: and they have the sense of urgency down the stretch

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Speaker 2: here with six games to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way it's supposed to be. You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, we had the great start and it felt like

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Speaker 3: we were hitting the easy button every week and putting

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Speaker 3: up forty and you know, in one of these big

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Speaker 3: games or winning by a lot, but they're not just

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Speaker 3: going to hand out the division, Matt. You know they're

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Speaker 3: not going to hand out you know, spots in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You got to go earn it, right, We got sixty.

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Speaker 2: Such a long season, is Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's such a long season, and you know, we as

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Speaker 3: fans and you know, as a player, you really try

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Speaker 3: not to do this, but we ride the you know,

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Speaker 3: the emotions of weekend week out, and you know, this

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Speaker 3: guy's falling after a tough loss in Kansas City versus

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Speaker 3: you know, the big wins we had early and you

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Speaker 3: know we're looking at the one seed. But you truly

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Speaker 3: just got to take it one week at a time.

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Speaker 3: And it's a great opportunity coming up again this week

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Speaker 3: and a great challenge in the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I mean the Kansas City game, it's

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Speaker 2: it's only one game, but it sure feels like I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're not playing so we can kind of discuss it

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Speaker 2: and mention the loss a little bit more than the

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Speaker 2: players can. Who have they have to live by the

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Speaker 2: twenty four hour rule, right, Either a big win or

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Speaker 2: a tough loss. You got to move on, but it

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Speaker 2: still doesn't make it sting any less when you're up

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Speaker 2: by eleven points going into the fourth quarter. We know

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Speaker 2: about how the offense ended the game, you know, four

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Speaker 2: after the third quarter. In fact, the Colts were out gained.

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Speaker 2: This is tough to hear. They were outgained by the

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Speaker 2: and in overtime. And you're you know you're up early.

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Speaker 2: You know you've got the twenty point lead. It looks

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Speaker 2: But it just wasn't meant to be. Give credit to

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, that's what they do. They finally got their

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Speaker 2: not being able to close out games and win those

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Speaker 2: tight games like they had done before. But Jack, for you,

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Speaker 2: what was the most frustrating part about experiencing that game

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Speaker 2: and watching in a real time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the end.

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Speaker 3: You know, we we had our opportunities, Like you said,

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Speaker 3: matt On offense and obviously those you know, the three

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City, you know, the atmosphere is incredible, and

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Speaker 3: you know, as a when you're in that atmosphere, you

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Speaker 3: it's one game. It's a tough pill to swallow, but

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Speaker 3: it just it just stinks for it to kind of

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Speaker 2: Hey, you mentioned the crowd noise when you play in

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Speaker 2: an all time great atmosphere like Arrowhead Stadium, And it

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Speaker 2: was a desperate game for the Chiefs. They really needed

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Speaker 2: and at least put them back into the somewhat mixed

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Speaker 2: where they haven't missed the playoffs since twenty fourteen. But interested,

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Speaker 2: you know, after what you just said, as a player,

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Speaker 2: do you since the crowd becoming more of a factor

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Speaker 2: and as the game goes on the tighter the game is,

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Speaker 2: how how difficult is it to continue to block that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely a factor.

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Speaker 3: And you know what comes to mind as a player,

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Speaker 3: to come back to those coach cliche says, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's one play at a time mentality, and you

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Speaker 3: think that's what you'd hear from the players man, they

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Speaker 2: You know, I think our good friend Joe Wright's put

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Speaker 2: it to me one time when he was talking about

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Speaker 2: he always said that tech that Houston, Texan NRG Stadium

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Speaker 2: one time, I think the Texans had a pick six

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Speaker 2: He said it was so loud that it was almost

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Speaker 2: that make sense to you? Can you register with that?

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Speaker 3: I remember us talking about it on the bus after

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Speaker 3: JJ like tipped the ball up. Yeah, of course since

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Speaker 3: it was good bad. And it sounds like coach speak, right,

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Speaker 3: but it's truly how you have to handle it when

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Speaker 3: and it's a great challenge to be like, hey, you

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Speaker 3: it's staying in your role and executing one play at

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Speaker 3: all that outside factors kind of affect you. Right, that's

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Speaker 2: How when things do start to go wrong. How helpless

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's frustrating, right, And that's the first thing, and

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Speaker 3: you just everyone's kind of being like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's tough, and you know, it just takes one guy

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Speaker 3: And you know Colts weren't able to do that and

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Speaker 3: you've got to use it as a learning experience. Right,

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Speaker 3: This was a great learning experience for this Colts team

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Speaker 3: and in this season, right, you went too a tough environment,

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Speaker 3: lost a tough game. So how do we grow from it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: You know, you maybe wouldn't grow for grow from it

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Speaker 3: to take those experiences. The Chiefs have had so many

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Speaker 3: experiences like this, right, you talk about they've been to

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Speaker 3: the playoff every year since twenty fourteen, Like they've played

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was such a disheartening way to

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Speaker 2: end the game for the Colts. On offense, like we've

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Speaker 2: talked about, they only ran twelve plays at the end

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Speaker 2: of the third quarter for a total of eighteen yards.

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Speaker 2: It's hot button, or I should say, you know, water

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Speaker 2: cooler conversation this week even though it is Thanksgiving, people

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Speaker 2: still getting together talking about the game, as you know.

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Speaker 2: But I mean a lot's been made about, Hey, the

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Speaker 2: Colts abandoned the run. They should have rowe Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 2: twenty two. You know, hindsight is everything. But I mean

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Speaker 2: the reality was the Colts' they weren't running the ball

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Speaker 2: very well. Jonathan Taylor was hit behind the line of

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Speaker 2: scrimmage on over sixty percent of his carries last week

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. They were doing a good job of

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Speaker 2: making sure that the run game from Taylor didn't beat them.

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Speaker 2: So what did you make of how the game ended

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Speaker 2: in terms of philosophy and execution by the Colts on offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, obviously, like you said, hindsight's twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: and be like, oh, why weren't we giving the ball

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: But you know, like you said, the run game wasn't

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Speaker 3: going great. You know, the Chiefs were gearing up to

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Speaker 2: Exactly, no question about. It's just unfortunate the way the

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Speaker 3: I think teams are gearing up to stop him, right,

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Speaker 2: What kind of toll does that take on your body,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mentally it can be exhausting, right because every play

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Speaker 3: But but what the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Have to do is they got to beat it right,

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Speaker 2: It's not going away.

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Speaker 3: It's not going away. Like I said, Matt, it's a

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh kind of showed it. Now, Kansas City had

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Speaker 3: And I know that's what they're you know, the coaches

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Speaker 3: Let's go stand up to this challenge and take advantage

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Speaker 3: I think coach lou had a great plan going in

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Speaker 3: No one's gonna cover a deep over with Rashid Rice

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Speaker 3: just again you want to play common Milly football. And

435
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,560
Speaker 3: again the defense competed their butts off, right, like ninety plays,

436
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,560
Speaker 3: only giving up twenty four points. Like that's a win, man,

437
00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 3: And the offense got to hold up their end of

438
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,040
Speaker 3: the bargain.

439
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,480
Speaker 1: All right.

440
00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,880
Speaker 2: So again zooming out, taking a look at things from

441
00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 2: the blimp here eight and three. Colts have lost two

442
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,919
Speaker 2: of their last three games. All three of the Colts

443
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,680
Speaker 2: losses this season have come on the road. All right,

444
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,240
Speaker 2: So they're two and three away from Lucas Oil Stadium,

445
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 2: technically six and zero at home. He throw in the

446
00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 2: Berlin game. Okay, so they're undefeated in quote unquote home games.

447
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,840
Speaker 2: But the Colts jack they have also scored exactly twenty

448
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,119
Speaker 2: points and all three of their losses this season. So

449
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 2: give me some if there are any some common denominators

450
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,439
Speaker 2: in eight wins versus three losses this year for the

451
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 2: Colts as we kind of pause at Thanksgiving and look

452
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,640
Speaker 2: ahead to the last six games.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird.

454
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 3: They've had twenty points in every loss. Yeah, you know,

455
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,720
Speaker 3: they've all kind of had their own story, I think,

456
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 3: But again, the common nominator is you know, I always

457
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 3: watched the offense more closely.

458
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh obviously was turnovers. Yeah, it was turnovers, right, Colds

459
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,160
Speaker 2: didn't have a turnover in this game and lost.

460
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 3: But even the Rams game, it was just handling pressure, right.

461
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 3: You know, the Rams were kind of getting with their

462
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 3: front four and Daniel honestly, and that game handled it

463
00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 3: great and made some unbelievable throws.

464
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, thinking back to that.

465
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 3: Game to give us a chance, But you know, it's

466
00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 3: handling pressure. And again it's a copycat league. So that's

467
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 3: what we're going to get from teams now, is they're

468
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 3: going to dial up the pressure and it's even you know,

469
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 3: it's not even it's run pressure too, you know, the

470
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,919
Speaker 3: running back you know, the run blitzes are you know,

471
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,360
Speaker 3: backers running through and things like that, and so it's

472
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 3: it's figuring out ways to handle the pressure and making

473
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 3: teams pay. When teams are gonna blitz and try and

474
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 3: bring extra guys, you got to make them pay. In

475
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 3: the past game and in the run game, there's ways

476
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Speaker 3: to scheme that up. And I feel like on the

477
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, we ran the bounce play on third and one,

478
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 3: the play that Q and Jonathan have kind of made famous.

479
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,360
Speaker 3: You know, we ran that back when I was here too.

480
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 3: It was always a great play for us. So there's

481
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 3: ways to scheming up in the run game too. So

482
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 3: we got to figure out a way to handle pressure

483
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,479
Speaker 3: and again make teams pay for trying to blitz us.

484
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. I want to talk about the AFC

485
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 2: South right now, and before we get into the nitty gritty,

486
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: I just want to say, just like as a fan, like,

487
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: go figure the year the Cults are eight and three,

488
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 2: on a great path to winning the AFC South for

489
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Speaker 2: the first time since twenty fourteen. As we go into

490
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: week number thirteen, go figure this is the year where

491
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,919
Speaker 2: there's three teams with a winning record. Yeah, all right,

492
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 2: the Texans, We'll talk about them. They've won three in

493
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: a row. The Jacksonville Jaguars, credit to them, they just

494
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: keep finding ways to win their seven and four. But

495
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 2: the point here is big picture. These next two games

496
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: against the AFC South are enormous for the Colts because

497
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, face at eight and

498
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: eight and three record this time of year, you know

499
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: you'd be you know, punching your passion half ready, Yeah,

500
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: you're feeling good about yourself. But hey, give credit to

501
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: these teams. They're finding ways to win, they're stacking victories,

502
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: and they're nipping at the heels of the Colts here

503
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 2: this game, these next two games Jacksonville and Houston. Jack

504
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,719
Speaker 2: do you pay attention to the standings if you're a player,

505
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,479
Speaker 2: and does that factor into the urgency and the focus

506
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: that you bring with you every single day to practice

507
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: this time of year.

508
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a player, I did always kind of look

509
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 3: at the division, right. I wouldn't look at the whole

510
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 3: big picture, right, but I always kind of you always

511
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 3: keep an eye on with the division's doing. But yeah,

512
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean again, Matt, it's it's an opportunity, right, It's

513
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: not going to be easy right, it shouldn't be easy

514
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 3: right to to kind of you know, we want to

515
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: end this, you know, this division win drought that we've

516
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 3: kind of had, having won once in twenty fourteen, So

517
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be easy, like, let's go win a big

518
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: game and it's good to come home and get this

519
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: you know six game stretch started the right way. And

520
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: so yeah, it is kind of funny as you say that. Man,

521
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 3: everyone's always always making fun of the AFC South, but

522
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 3: hey man, this is AFC South.

523
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: We're playing football right now.

524
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks now, yeah, division absolutely different, absolutely, so, so yeah,

525
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: it'd be a great challenge. And uh and that's what

526
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: you want as a player. Man, I wouldn't want it

527
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: the other way, Like that's boring, right, let's go.

528
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: I'll take boring.

529
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll take boring. Yeah sure, I get that.

530
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: But it's funny to think, like, you know, you think

531
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: of the you know, Jacksonville seven and four and you

532
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 3: know the Colts are eight and three, and it's like,

533
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 3: we have not looked the Colts have looked so much

534
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 3: better just from a you know, game in, game out perspective,

535
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: but Jacksonville is found ways to win games. So It's

536
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: just it's a week by week league. It doesn't matter,

537
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: you know, how it goes, Matt, It's about getting the

538
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: win so that you know those are going to be

539
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: the challenges coming, you know, going forward.

540
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 2: And for the last six games of the season are

541
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Speaker 2: against the AFC South. You got two games against Houston,

542
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: two games and against Jacksonville. And that's the reality of

543
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: the deal here. You got the Colts, Jaguars, and Texans

544
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: who all still control their own destiny inside the division.

545
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: So I mean Roger Goodell somewhere is fist pumping.

546
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: That is exactly what he wants.

547
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 2: Schedule four teams involved in in the mix as late

548
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: in the season as possible, get as many fans, you know,

549
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: still glued on the games every Sunday as possible. And

550
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: that's exactly what's happening here. So with that in mind,

551
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: you know, I go back to the beginning of last

552
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: year and I don't know if you remember this or

553
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: maybe you felt this, but that I certainly did.

554
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: Right.

555
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: You remember how the end of the twenty twenty three season,

556
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: win that win in your in game. I mean it

557
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 2: literally was a playoff game against the Colts and the Texans.

558
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 2: Everything was on the line, the Colts came up short,

559
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: you had the fourth and one and the drop pass,

560
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: and then then you know, the Texans go on to

561
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: win the division and all of that stuff. And then

562
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: the next year, right out of the gate, the first

563
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: game of the season, Week one, at home, return to

564
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: the scene of the crime. It's Texans and Colts, and

565
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: I just felt like there was so much pressure and

566
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: there was so much urgency on the Colts, and they

567
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: were talking about it outwardly too, and I don't blame them, yeah, right,

568
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: but I mean, it just seemed like all off season

569
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: it was like this cloud hanging over the franchise on

570
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: what could have been and an opportunity loss and things

571
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Speaker 2: like that, and then you get the Texans right out

572
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: of the gate at home. There was just so much

573
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Speaker 2: pressure about trying to rectify what had happened at the

574
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Speaker 2: end of the season before and trying to get off

575
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: to a good start and you know, winning at home

576
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: for the first time in quite some time. There was

577
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,479
Speaker 2: just I thought, too much internal pressure being put on

578
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: that game. And now you look at this game and

579
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: it's another big game in terms of the standing, is

580
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: a lot of magnitude about it. So as a former player,

581
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: how do you balance urgency and pressure but also not

582
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: putting too much stuff on that to where you can't function,

583
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 2: You can't play fast and you can't go out there

584
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: and execute it.

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of comes back to what we were

586
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: talking about earlier, Matt, And what I think is the

587
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: players really got to stay in their role. I think

588
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: Shane does a great job. And I heard Mo talking

589
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: about this how you know, and Nick Sirianni did the

590
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 3: same thing, and I'm sure that's where Shane got it.

591
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: But defining the role for each player, every player knows

592
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: his role. You have to just do your role. You know,

593
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 3: you hear the Bill Belichick. Do your job, you know,

594
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: it's that's what it is. When when the pressure turns

595
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: up and the stakes, you know, turn up, you got

596
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: to just stay within yourself right and trying to do

597
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: too much or or getting outside of your routine, be like,

598
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: hey I should do more, I should do you know,

599
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: more than I normally do. No, stay in your routine.

600
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: We have the recipe for what works right and be

601
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: yourself right, don't try to do too much. And when

602
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: you have a you know, so many different playmakers and

603
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: the offense so many different guys can go and we

604
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: can attack you in so many different ways. It's like, hey,

605
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: just hold up your endo the bargain, right, and do

606
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: your job and rely on your buddies, right. I mean

607
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: that you're out there together, right, and you're not out

608
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: there alone. So that's what makes football so great and

609
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: the best sport ever is you're out there with your guys, man,

610
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: and yeah, so yeah it again.

611
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: This is what you want.

612
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: You know, playoffs are playoffs are kind of starting now,

613
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: like let's go. Great, you know it's not you know,

614
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: must win, but hey, like these division games.

615
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it is because the Texans

616
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: have what the Colts have wanted and haven't been able

617
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: to obtain the last couple of seasons.

618
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: So let's go. Let's get this last. You know, this

619
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Speaker 3: last the six game stretch started the right way. That's

620
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at.

621
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Speaker 2: And you look at this series too. The Colts have

622
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: lost the last three games against the Texans by combined

623
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: nine points. But also on top of that, here's your

624
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: little nugget on Thanksgiving. The last six games in this

625
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: series between the Colts and the Texans have been decided

626
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: by an average of three and a half points.

627
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Speaker 1: Geez, that's amazing. Yeah.

628
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: So, I mean it's going to be a good one,

629
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Speaker 2: A good old fashioned good one, as we.

630
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: Like to say, Yay football.

631
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: That's all Sat Lucas Loyo Stadium, and the Colts are

632
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: going to get a first hand look first time this

633
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: season against that Texans defense. They're number one and basically

634
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: everything they got game wreckers and all three levels of

635
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: that defense. We know about their personnel, but when you

636
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: watch them collectively together, Jack, what makes them so freaking

637
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: good on defense? I mean offensively with Davis Mills and

638
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: this is not a shot at him, but they're on

639
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: a three game winning streak with their offense really hasn't

640
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: had to do much because their defense is it's that

641
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: good no matter who's playing quarterback for him.

642
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: First off, Damiko Ryans is a heck of a coach.

643
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: He really a heck of a defensive coach, and I

644
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: play I got to play against him when he was

645
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: with he was with the Eagles, and a good player.

646
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: But but yeah, obviously you start with the edge pressure

647
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: guys and Anderson and Hunter, and you know they're able

648
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 3: to get pressure with four, right, That's that's a recipe

649
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: for a good defense off the jump, and you know

650
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: that kind of scheme that you know Demico ran in

651
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: San Francisco.

652
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: Right, it's like a cover three. It's zone and it's but.

653
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: It kind of looks more like man in the way

654
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: they play such a tight zone coverage and and they

655
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: don't give you you know, they don't give you the

656
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 3: easy checkdowns underneath or you know, you got to beat them, right.

657
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: It's kind of similar to what the Chiefs were doing

658
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: to us in the second half with the pressure, right,

659
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: different schemes and but same mentality. Right, We're not going

660
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: to give you anything easy, right, you got to beat us.

661
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a great challenge for the Colts

662
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: and and and a great opportunity, right, and it's good

663
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: to be back home too that that'll be a what

664
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: a what a fun environment it's going to be on Sunday?

665
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Is it?

666
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: Just just keep playing? If you're the Colts offense, Yeah,

667
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: just keep playing, you know what I mean. Don't get

668
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: discouraged if you know, if it's tough sledding to begin

669
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: the game, if you have to punt from your own territory,

670
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: just keep playing, because you know the Colts defense hopefully

671
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: knock on wood. Yeah, we'll do their job. C. J.

672
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: Stroud's probably coming back in this game. He's missed the

673
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: last three with a concussion. But just keep playing and

674
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: try to play as complimentary football for his long as

675
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: possible against this out.

676
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, gota keep playing. The levee is gonna break, right,

677
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta believe.

678
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: And you just got to keep leaning on him, keep

679
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: leaning on them, and eventually, boom, there goes the John.

680
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: You know, it's the recipe of the Coals have been doing. Right,

681
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: there goes to Jonathan Taylor home run ball. You know,

682
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: it's you got like you said, Matt, it's gonna be

683
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: big to you know, take care of the football. They're

684
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: great at taking it away. Yeah, that's gonna be huge.

685
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: And and just trying to turn first downs right and

686
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: keeping drives alive and and you know, like you said,

687
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: I have full faith in the defense and holding up

688
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: their end of the bargain. So yeah, like I said,

689
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: it's a great challenge. And they're great defense and have

690
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: playmakers at you know, all three levels. And you know

691
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: I say all three levels, that's d line, linebacker and

692
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: in the back end. So yeah, it's gonna be a

693
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: great challenge and taking care of the football is going

694
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: to be paramount.

695
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: All right, Thanksgiving week is here. As we close out

696
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: the podcast, let's talk about everything that Thanksgiving means for

697
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: the NFL. For a lot of people, Thanksgiving obviously is

698
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: it's a great holiday. Uh. For coaches and players in

699
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: the NFL, it's Thursday, right, Yeah, you still got stuff

700
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, the NFL does not stop third down day.

701
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: I used to call it blitz and red zone day, right,

702
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: blitz pick up day. So with that of mind, Jack,

703
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: how how different is Thanksgiving in the middle of your

704
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: your work week and prep week as a player when

705
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: you still have so much to get done and film

706
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: to watch and waits to lift and uh, you know,

707
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: things to to pick up on to get ready for

708
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: a game, while you know your friends and family are

709
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: trying to get together and you're trying to carve out

710
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: some time for Thanksgiving on Thursday when it's so much

711
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: other stuff you got to do on that day as well.

712
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Thursday, Matt. You know, that's why I took

713
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: it as a player. And then you know, the perk

714
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: of it is like on that you know, this Thursday. Right,

715
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: you get to go home and there's gonna be a

716
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: bunch of people there, you know, cooking you a bunch

717
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: of food, and you get a really good dinner, right,

718
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: and then it's going to and then then you're gonna

719
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: get a good night's sleep and wake up and it's Friday.

720
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what it is.

721
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: It's a tough challenge, but it also you know, it

722
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: helps to have a home game, and so it'll be

723
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: good for players. You get some family in town, and

724
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: and and you know, I don't want to say you

725
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: do you got to get away from football sometimes and

726
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: and and be able to escape and and and and

727
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: taking you know, taking care of your family and and

728
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: and and you know, catching up with all of them.

729
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: It'll be good for the players. And you know, I

730
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: you know, usually the schedule is you get more done,

731
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: you kind of get here a little earlier and and

732
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: and kind of fast forward your day a bit and

733
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: then and get it. I get out in the early

734
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: afternoon time. But uh, but yeah, it's also you know,

735
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: a great holiday. You know, these are NFL players, right,

736
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: it's time to be thankful, right, you know, no question,

737
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: knowing not a lot of people get this, so so

738
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: be thankful for the situation you're in and and turn

739
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: that into hey, I got a great opportunity coming up

740
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: on Sunday, so let's go get a win.

741
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: So how how many hours for those that don't know,

742
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: how many hours do you actually get to enjoy Thanksgiving?

743
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: Because I mean, you guys are here un told typically

744
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: what time of day on thanksg Yeah, I.

745
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: Would say like two, it would would be my guest.

746
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: And normally you're out of here, like.

747
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: You're done with meetings at like five thirty on a

748
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: normal Thursday. Yeah, maybe probably don't leave home, you know, six,

749
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: six thirty whatever, whatever it is. So I would say

750
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: two or three o'clock.

751
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: I bet you know, that'd be my guest that these guys,

752
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 3: so they'll get they'll wake up and they'll get here

753
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: a little early and then have their normal schedule and

754
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: then probably not have meetings after practice like you typically

755
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: do m hm. And you kind of have maybe a

756
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: little bit of a longer day on Friday, so you'll

757
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: kind of catch up on the film you missed on

758
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: you know what you skipped on Thursday, and then Thursday,

759
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, Friday is usually kind of a quicker day.

760
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: And maybe Friday is a little longer this week for

761
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: the guy, so it's not going to change too much.

762
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: And and again the guys have been around, they're used

763
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: to it and all that fun stuff.

764
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: Did you get to enjoy Thanksgiving or did you always

765
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: just feel like you had like one eye or you know,

766
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: one part of your brain always working thinking in the

767
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: back of your head, like what do I got to

768
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: do against the Texas? I mean, are you able to

769
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: detach it all in.

770
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: The middle of the week. No, I could never enjoy Thanksgiving.

771
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: The food was good, and I was I was thankful, Yeah,

772
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: I was thankful for It's tough, right, It's there's so

773
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: much was impossible.

774
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: And like Casey listened to this right now, she was

775
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: probably screaming, like your wife, Yeah, that's my wife.

776
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah she had been like heck no, he didn't. That

777
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: boy was. He was always in a bad mood.

778
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: Go to the bathroom and walk downstairs and watch go

779
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: to sleep.

780
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: Oh I'm not feeling I'm gonna get some extra rest

781
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: and I'm upstairs watching film or something.

782
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: Irish Goodbye Jack.

783
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm a big Irish goodbye guy.

784
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Are you really?

785
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? So what at family functions we have a

786
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: big family, man.

787
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: So like you're talking to your second cousin twice your mood.

788
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I say bye to everybody, I'm gonna get

789
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: a drink. That's an extra hour, right. I make my

790
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: kids say bye though, that's big. You know, I don't

791
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: teach them.

792
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: You're a hypocrite.

793
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't teach them my ways well as a kid.

794
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: But now I'm just like sneak out the back door

795
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 3: say bye to a couple of people, so like they

796
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: can spread the word but not.

797
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jack left. You're looking for Jack? He left

798
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: about a half an hour ago.

799
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Irish man, So why can I do the

800
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: Irish good bye? Come on bad?

801
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: Look you are better than that. Teach you some manners

802
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: on the east side.

803
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: That's good.

804
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's funny because I like Thanksgiving but

805
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: and I love football on Thanksgiving. But this is a

806
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: hot take that I have. I don't know if you

807
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: agree with this, but can I talked to the commissioner

808
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. I did not give him

809
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: this anecdote. I should have opportunity squandered right there. But

810
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: hot take here. Let's take the Lions and Cowboys off

811
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving. I know it's tradition, but I think it's time.

812
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: I think I think more people would be interested in

813
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: watching football if they didn't have to watch the Lions

814
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: and Cowboys play every year. Now. For centuries, it felt

815
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: like the Lions were no good. So you got a

816
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: kind of a dud game there between, you know, noon

817
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: and three, and then now that I mean, I just like,

818
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: let's spread around, like we're spreading everything around. We're trying

819
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: to move the combine, We're moving the draft around, like

820
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: let's let's let's give Thanksgiving a shot to other markets here.

821
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think.

822
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a tradition guy. You probably could have

823
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: sold me on this when the Lions were bad.

824
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: The lines are fun, right, I get it, everything comes

825
00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: in waves.

826
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys can be annoying, right, Let's be honest, right, you

827
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: get it's a little too much with them. But I'm

828
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: a tradition guy, Matt, You know, I kind of like it.

829
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: And you know who's going to play, and it's always

830
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: like who are the Lions playing? You know who are

831
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys playing? Right? And but yeah, I get him out.

832
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: What do you want? Would you rather? Would you like

833
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: a Colt's one o'clock Thanksgiving game. Yeah, yeah, wouldn't you?

834
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah I would. That'd be awesome.

835
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: Get you played once on Thanksgiving so the.

836
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Lions get Do they have two Thursday in games or

837
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: this is their only Thursday.

838
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: I believe they have two Thursday games.

839
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting.

840
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah we did play. I did play on Thanksgiving once.

841
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: It was at night.

842
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: It was night.

843
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: You gets probably like to get home.

844
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: I liked it.

845
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Thanksgiving the next day. Basically we should

846
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: have won that game.

847
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: That was a Roethlisberger game.

848
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he came in and at the end Scott toward

849
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: Zeene started. That's right.

850
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty seventeen, sixteen.

851
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah you would know sixteen. But yeah, I know that

852
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: was a tough loss. But I liked it.

853
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: I liked having like that is a year that I

854
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: actually kind of enjoyed Thanksgiving, but it wasn't on actual Thanksgiving.

855
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: I feel like Friday I was able to let my

856
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: guard down and I remember having a nice, you know,

857
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving that year.

858
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of a privilege. I mean, I know every

859
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: NFL player practices on Thanksgiving, but you got to work

860
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: your tail off to get to that level. Yeah, I

861
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: mean that's the one percent of the one percent. But

862
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: how many state championships high school?

863
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: We were on the same page. Yeah, I played in one,

864
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: so I got to practice on Thanksgiving. Yeah, I mean

865
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: it was so cool, awesome.

866
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: I got to play in a couple of state championships

867
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: at the old RCA Dome or it was your dome

868
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: and the I don't know that the surreal factor of

869
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: practicing with your buddies, Like it was like Turkey Bowl,

870
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: even though we were like serious and you know, out

871
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: there practicing, you know, just for the magnitude of the

872
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: game a couple of days later, but just that the

873
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: preciousness of practicing football on Thanksgiving was really surreal. I mean,

874
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: what's it like for you to practice on Thanksgiving, whether

875
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: you're a prep player or the NFL.

876
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the NFL, Matt, I would I would think

877
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: about that. So every Thanksgiving, Like how as a high

878
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: schooler that was your only goal, man, Like you wouldn't

879
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: talk about going to state. You'd been like, hey, we're

880
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: working to practice on Thanksgiving, Like that's how that's how

881
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: you kind of phrase we want to go to state, right,

882
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: And that was the goal. So yeah, that was always a.

883
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: That's an awesome memory I have of being able to

884
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: do that. Like I said, we won state my junior year,

885
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: so got to do the Thanksgiving practice and yeah, it's

886
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: a great honor. So the teams and the guys that

887
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: are out there getting to practice on Thanksgiving enjoy it.

888
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: That's a core memory that you'll remember forever.

889
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Were you Lucas Oil Stadium? No, I was.

890
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: I was the last year. So this is my junior year.

891
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: We were RCAA Dome, and my senior year we got

892
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: beaten semi state. I don't want to talk about it,

893
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: and we would have still been at the RCAA Dome.

894
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: I think the next year was the first year at

895
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: Lucas Oil, so I would been That would have been

896
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: fall of O seven would have been my senior year,

897
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: so the next year would have been Lucas Oil.

898
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: And that's one of the coolest things I think, tradition

899
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: wise in the state of Indiana Central Indiana is that

900
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: the high school football state championships. The Cults are always

901
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: so proud to be the presenting sponsor of the tournament

902
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: and the state finals. But I think you and I

903
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: can both attest to this as sixteen seventeen and eighteen

904
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: year old kids having the opportunity to play their last

905
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: game in the Magnitude or the Colisseum. Yeah, the cathedral

906
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: of football that Lucas Oil Stadium is and the RCAA

907
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: Dome at the time was because I was in the

908
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: same boat. I played there, not Lucas Oil Stadium. But

909
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 2: how cool is it for kids to have that opportunity

910
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: to have their entire communities and their entire student sections

911
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: cheering them on where the Colts play, where Jonathan Taylor

912
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: runs right, where Michael Pittman scores touchdowns and all of

913
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: those things just on that that hollow ground. If you

914
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: wear where Colts football is, it takes off.

915
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: That's it, man, That's football, Like, that's what it's all about, right,

916
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I get asked if I miss football.

917
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, or miss playing for the Colts. It's

918
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: like I probably miss high school. More like, that's with

919
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: your butt, that's with your boys, man, That's what your buddies, right.

920
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: These are the guys you grew up with and guys

921
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm still close with today.

922
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: So so yeah, what an honor. Man.

923
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: I remember how you know, excited I was to be

924
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: on the field where you know, Peyton was playing.

925
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: I just felt down than I was.

926
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you felt fast.

927
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt more talented than I actually was because

928
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: I was playing all night.

929
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: I'm so fled, I'm so good, right, that's how you

930
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: go into that game feel so sweet about yourself. Yeah,

931
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, man, what a great honor, right and no

932
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: doubt and getting a practice on Thanksgiving, So enjoy guys.

933
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: Like we're talking right now. It's a core memory, right,

934
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: we're still reminiscent Abandon.

935
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: Same thing about Operation Football. It's just so different now

936
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: here it comes to helicopter Twitter. Yeah, when you had

937
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: collabor and company to show up at the helicopter and

938
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: they lay next to the field, I mean I would

939
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: tape it every single Friday, I would. I would set

940
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: the VCR and just see if your highlights made the news. Man,

941
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: that was the biggest freaking deal.

942
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: We would always as a team go to the Loopos,

943
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: the Loopos big Cathedral family, and they had a house

944
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: right by cathedral, So after the games we'd always go

945
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: over to their house and watch Operation you know, watch

946
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: the new and look for our highlights all the Operation Football.

947
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: So again another another core memory. Man, it was the

948
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: best a day of collabor.

949
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Knocks up penal and heights number eighty four Jack Noyle

950
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: with a couple of touchdowns. The Irish keep on rolling

951
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: in a semi state.

952
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wish there was more of those. But yeah,

953
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: there was a lot of blocking back then, a lot

954
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: of blocking.

955
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: Well they get on the news man, that.

956
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: Was it, man, that was it. That was That's what

957
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: it was all about. Getting in the waking up the

958
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: next morning and if you had to catch right or

959
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: you could just see this in the box in the

960
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: box score, that was right.

961
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: That was it.

962
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: Clip it out.

963
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: That's all I wanted. That's all I wanted.

964
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: I think my grandmother still has like the clipping.

965
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: My mom definitely does. Oh yeah, there's a box of

966
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: all all the clippings.

967
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: You know, I could talk about this stuff.

968
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 3: I wish I need to go look at that. That'd

969
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: be cool to go reminisce because she's called even you know,

970
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: playing for the Colts. Like, she's got those clippings too,

971
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: So it'd be cool.

972
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: Because you have your like PFF grades from like twenty.

973
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: Nineteen she has. We will burn them on Thanksgiving if

974
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: she f grades. Sorry, you don't know my job. You

975
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: don't know my job.

976
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, side of PFF criticism, that's always one of the

977
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: angel Oh.

978
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm doing that. So we're going in their house

979
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving. I'm going to ask her for that. I

980
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: know there's a box bringing it next time. All the newspapers.

981
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: That'd be really cool.

982
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, get the scrap book out here, all right. Every

983
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: week we close out the podcast with a fun little

984
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: segment we call you don't Know Jack. We've gotten to

985
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: know you so so much better in the last I

986
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: think two months here doing this podcast, and we found

987
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: out last week you're a little bit of a rambunctious

988
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: kid when you're thirteen years old. Okay, we put you

989
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: on the spot.

990
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: I got too many texts about good.

991
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: But you should have regrets about that, Matt. You should

992
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: still feel bad about what you pulled off in Jim

993
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: class back in the day. But this one, this one's

994
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: a little bit softer. Here we stick with the theme

995
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: of the week and Thanksgiving. Jack Doyle, what are your

996
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 2: favorite family Thanksgiving traditions and tell us your ideal plate

997
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: of food on Thanksgiving Day.

998
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: I love Thanksgiving and now that I like enjoy it again.

999
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: You talked about how you can actually be the Grench

1000
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. That's how it used to be.

1001
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, so thanks even tradition, so we've we'll do

1002
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: the drumstick dash.

1003
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: And broaderpol How many years have you done that?

1004
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: So Casey, you know, Casey started we lived in Broaderpool,

1005
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: that's where we bought our first house. And she did

1006
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: it forever without me because I was here practicing. But now, yeah,

1007
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: we've done it every year.

1008
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: Cool.

1009
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: I think since then maybe a baby got in the

1010
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: way or two, but freaking babies. But yeah, I think

1011
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: we've done every year and it's a ton of fun.

1012
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: I love. You know.

1013
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, we used to go to

1014
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: a family friend, the mcglenn's house. They used to do

1015
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: a run slash walk in honor of Steve McGlenn, will

1016
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: give him a shout out. So yeah, it's it's a

1017
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: fun tradition that I've always done. Start in the morning

1018
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: with a walk and then we'll go over to my

1019
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: mom's house and uh, you know, my dad will kick

1020
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: a cook a bird. I'll bring over a ham. That's

1021
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: how he That's how he texted me. He said, I'll

1022
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: cook the bird, I'll cook the bird, and uh, I'll

1023
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: bring over a honey, baked tam you know, warm that

1024
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: sucker up.

1025
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm not cooking anything.

1026
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: Solid, but yeah, everything, mashed potatoes, gravy, stuffing, noodles. There's

1027
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: these noodles. They're almost like dumpling dumpling noodles. So good

1028
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: to get people. And I just like it's like a

1029
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: cast roll to me. Right, everything is together, right, it's

1030
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: just give me a bowl. I don't need a little divider, yeah,

1031
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 3: pretty much. Oh give me I could, I could give

1032
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: you give me a blender, right, I'll just put that.

1033
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Oh god, just a little extra gravy. Right.

1034
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: No, I need to have I need to have food integrity.

1035
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: I need boundaries and borders.

1036
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: Okay, give me this.

1037
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: Do you eat so normally I'm an eater, like I

1038
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: eat one thing at a time. Right, So if I have, like,

1039
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: really I don't know, steak and potato.

1040
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Like you have like burger fries, you going the whole

1041
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: burger first first.

1042
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Before I have a fry.

1043
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: And I've always done that and people think it's people

1044
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: think it's weird, and I'm like, I've always done this.

1045
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: I was so weird as a kid. I wouldn't let

1046
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: my food touch. But now my Thanksgiving I'm mixing it

1047
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: all together. Yeah, boy, I tell you what so so

1048
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: you'll like, you know, a little bit of turkey and

1049
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: then you'll go back to the mess you Yeah.

1050
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean I like to kind of like bounce around,

1051
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I like to go with

1052
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: a different uh.

1053
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: I see, I'll do different thing food giving. But normally

1054
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: I don't do that. I guess that's weird by your

1055
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: reaction and everyone else's reaction to me.

1056
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little weird. Not gonna lie, it's a

1057
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: little weird. I mean a couple of couple, I mean,

1058
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: take two bites of hamburger, put it down, a couple

1059
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: of fries, little sip a coke. I mean, talk to

1060
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: people talk.

1061
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: No, that's not allowed. I don't talk, and I don't

1062
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: share food. I don't share food.

1063
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: So like if I come and reach across, that's a no. No.

1064
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: I won't.

1065
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: I won't. I won't eat dinner dinner with you again,

1066
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: We're done. I don't.

1067
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't breaking bread with Jack Doyle.

1068
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: One of them.

1069
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: You want, order fries, I get that, Go get some

1070
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 3: more fries.

1071
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: I get.

1072
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: There's plenty of food.

1073
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: Do you do tax bites with your kids? Like dad tax.

1074
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they get so.

1075
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: Mad and I'm more of I'm more of the garbage disposal,

1076
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: like the stuff they don't eat.

1077
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just finished off at.

1078
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. Well that's that's like in the

1079
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: Dad Handbook. You've got it.

1080
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: There's there's codes, there's that you have to follow.

1081
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: Awesome, good stuff. That Thanksgiving, Jack Doyle, you are the

1082
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: best dude. Great stuff right there, wrapping up the podcast

1083
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: with you don't know Jack. He is a he's got

1084
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: a one track mind when it comes to eating, all right,

1085
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: So don't talk to him. Talk to me, don't disrupt him.

1086
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: He's going turkey first, by the way, Turkey, Uh do

1087
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: you do baked turkey or fried turkey?

1088
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: On things baked?

1089
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: I've done the fried turkey before, but my dad will again,

1090
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't do it. My dad will bake turkey.

1091
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: That's another hot take. If you don't have turkey at Thanksgiving,

1092
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it.

1093
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't don't what you want turkey, Yeah,

1094
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: what you want, it's fine. Like I eat it an

1095
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: obligation almost.

1096
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: Same like I feel like I have to, but like

1097
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't love it.

1098
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm a big ham guy.

1099
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: Like if you if you have lasagna for me on Thanksgiving,

1100
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm equally as happening.

1101
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: I love lasagna.

1102
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: Do you man to each their own right? Everybody out there,

1103
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: you do you on Thanksgiving and have a great holiday,

1104
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: And thank you so much. In terms of being thankful,

1105
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: we are thankful for Seriously, I'm very thankful for you man.

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Speaker 2: You make this podcast a joy and a lot of fun.

1107
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: And we thank you so much for always listening and

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Speaker 2: watching wherever you consume us on iTunes, Colts dot com, YouTube,

1109
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: Colts Podcast Channel. Thank you so much and continue to

1110
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: support us here as the Colts get ready for a

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00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: week thirteen showdown, first of two back to back games

1112
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Speaker 2: against the AFC South coming up on Sunday. It's the

1113
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Colts and the Texans. We'll be back next week post Thanksgiving,

1114
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Speaker 2: hopefully talking about another win for the Indianapolis Colts. But

1115
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Speaker 2: again for Jack Doyle, I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for watching,

1116
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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you next week here on the

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Speaker 2: Colts Podcast Channel.