1
00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bet Now

2
00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,360
Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland.

3
00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,320
Speaker 2: Alright, let's go live on a first Friday edition of

4
00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,720
Speaker 2: the program, merely bo the great Z obviously a subdued

5
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,000
Speaker 2: tone today as brutal news this morning, shocking news. Didn't

6
00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,879
Speaker 2: anticipate this in any way, shape or form, but the

7
00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,600
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns and quarterback Deshaun Watson is done for the

8
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,920
Speaker 2: season with shoulder surgery. It happened in the game on Sunday.

9
00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,920
Speaker 2: We have a statement from the team. We're a waiting

10
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,320
Speaker 2: coach at the podium in a second. We will get

11
00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,760
Speaker 2: to all of that. Z. You this morning, as this happens,

12
00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,319
Speaker 2: you just go, my god, what I believe coach might

13
00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,520
Speaker 2: be at the podium now, I'm sorry to interrupt, y'all.

14
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,480
Speaker 3: All right, let's Jordan and we got him. All right,

15
00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,400
Speaker 3: here's coach Stefanski.

16
00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,119
Speaker 4: Okay, obviously, I know you guys got the Deshaun news.

17
00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,160
Speaker 4: You know, incredibly disappointed for the kid. You know, he

18
00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,000
Speaker 4: battled like crazy to get back out there, and then

19
00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,840
Speaker 4: for what he did with those injuries in the second

20
00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,640
Speaker 4: half or is even more remarkable. So disappointed for him,

21
00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,280
Speaker 4: but he'll get back, he'll get healthy. I know that

22
00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,200
Speaker 4: he'll attack his rehab. So for us, we're excited about

23
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,920
Speaker 4: our opportunity this week. Got the six and three Steelers

24
00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,240
Speaker 4: coming to town, you know, six and three Browns down

25
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,920
Speaker 4: there on the lake. So we're very excited about that

26
00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,800
Speaker 4: and that's where our focus is. We're focusing on going

27
00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,720
Speaker 4: want to know this week any which way we can,

28
00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,200
Speaker 4: and that's the exciting part about life in the NFL.

29
00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,840
Speaker 4: You know that Steelers teams coming in here, as we know,

30
00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,200
Speaker 4: really well coached, good players. They're a tough, tough matchup.

31
00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,880
Speaker 4: Their defense is that front is stout, good players in

32
00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560
Speaker 4: the back end, including you know, Joey Porter who is

33
00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,920
Speaker 4: playing more and more and playing at.

34
00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,680
Speaker 5: A high level for them.

35
00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,799
Speaker 4: Offense create all sorts of issues with their pre snap movement.

36
00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,480
Speaker 4: Some new players on that side of the ball as well.

37
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,560
Speaker 4: I think they'll get their tight end back. So a

38
00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840
Speaker 4: huge challenge and not and special teams. You know, I

39
00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,200
Speaker 4: think our special teams made some plays to help us

40
00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,040
Speaker 4: win last week and that's going to definitely be the

41
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,120
Speaker 4: case again this week. So again excited for the challenge

42
00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,080
Speaker 4: of playing at our place in November and with that,

43
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:35,080
Speaker 4: I'll take any questions Dorian's gonna start the decision to

44
00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,160
Speaker 4: go back in Yeah, I just felt like, you know,

45
00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,520
Speaker 4: as you know, every week you're trying to just make

46
00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,040
Speaker 4: the best decisions you can for your team. I want

47
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,079
Speaker 4: to give him a week where he knows he's a starter,

48
00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,920
Speaker 4: gets a full week of preparation.

49
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560
Speaker 6: And he learned from that first start, and how's he

50
00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,680
Speaker 6: maybe growing since then?

51
00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would hope all of our players learn from

52
00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,280
Speaker 4: every opportunity, whether you start or don't. You know, whether

53
00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,880
Speaker 4: you get ten plays or sixty plays, I think take

54
00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,240
Speaker 4: you take learning experiences every rep you get practice in game.

55
00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,520
Speaker 7: What makes you.

56
00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,200
Speaker 8: Confident that he would be a lot better than he

57
00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,000
Speaker 8: was in Ravens game?

58
00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,880
Speaker 4: Again, young players needed exposure. You get better in practice,

59
00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,400
Speaker 4: sometimes you get better through games.

60
00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,840
Speaker 9: Kevin, it feels like one thing or another has been

61
00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,239
Speaker 9: thrown at you guys all season.

62
00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,440
Speaker 5: I mean, this being the latest.

63
00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,800
Speaker 9: Do you feel like what you've been through already prepares you,

64
00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,919
Speaker 9: guys for what's the Heck?

65
00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've said to you guys before, I've said to

66
00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,440
Speaker 4: the team, you can't predict anything in this league. You

67
00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,960
Speaker 4: can't predict what's going to happen. When you're sitting there

68
00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,000
Speaker 4: back in August, you don't know what's coming your way.

69
00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,920
Speaker 4: So you know, we keep a very very narrow focus

70
00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,040
Speaker 4: in this building. What I know is we had a

71
00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 4: big one on Sunday, Kevin, how.

72
00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,920
Speaker 10: Has Dorian handled kind of this part of the season,

73
00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,440
Speaker 10: you know, after the Ravens game and then going.

74
00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,080
Speaker 6: Back to that backup position with the.

75
00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:55,280
Speaker 4: Characters across the howies young player works very hard. Gave

76
00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,280
Speaker 4: him a scout team game ball last week with his

77
00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,680
Speaker 4: work as prepping our defense for for the Ravens. So

78
00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,240
Speaker 4: he's gotten better and better. I think in practice it

79
00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 4: works very hard in the meeting room with all those

80
00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840
Speaker 4: guys and a VP, so he's working very hard.

81
00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,680
Speaker 11: Very idea during the game, Kevin, Yeah, de Sean was

82
00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,960
Speaker 11: experienced sear shoulder problems.

83
00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,320
Speaker 5: I did not.

84
00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,640
Speaker 10: DeShawn seemed like in dislieve still pull over this news.

85
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,960
Speaker 10: And I mean, just from what you've seen from him

86
00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,640
Speaker 10: so far with him being here, how do you think

87
00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,039
Speaker 10: he's handled this? And it obviously seems like he really

88
00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,320
Speaker 10: wanted to continue.

89
00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've talked to him a lot. Obviously he's disappointed.

90
00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,080
Speaker 4: He's a competitor. You know he's a leader of the

91
00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,880
Speaker 4: football team. So it's tough. And we've all been around

92
00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,120
Speaker 4: this game and we've seen guys have season ending injuries

93
00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,120
Speaker 4: and it's no fun for anybody. You feel for those guys.

94
00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,400
Speaker 4: We've got guys in the training room right now that

95
00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,279
Speaker 4: are out for the season. We feel for them. But

96
00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,640
Speaker 4: we got a game. We got a game on Sunday.

97
00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,080
Speaker 4: We got a great opportunity in front of us. So

98
00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,000
Speaker 4: we know he's going to go heel up and get

99
00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,839
Speaker 4: better and in the meantime, he's going to be supporting

100
00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,080
Speaker 4: US teammates and a lot of.

101
00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,640
Speaker 10: Fans remember that the TTR game against Baltimore.

102
00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:04,719
Speaker 6: We all saw him.

103
00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,599
Speaker 10: Play really well in trading camp and in the prebseason games.

104
00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,600
Speaker 10: You know, going back to that time, what did you

105
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,680
Speaker 10: really like about him and what gives you confidence that

106
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,480
Speaker 10: he could keep the offense going going forward?

107
00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for us, obviously did a ton of

108
00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,800
Speaker 4: work on him coming out, so he's played a lot

109
00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,159
Speaker 4: of football. He's very athletic and make plays as a

110
00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,800
Speaker 4: very good understanding of what we do of our offense

111
00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,400
Speaker 4: and those type of things. So he's a young player

112
00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,680
Speaker 4: that I think we'll just continue to get.

113
00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,119
Speaker 12: Better the fact that a J. Walker didn't win games

114
00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,719
Speaker 12: for you. Did you just feel the coaches that couldn't

115
00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,360
Speaker 12: live with his turnovers anymore?

116
00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,480
Speaker 5: No? I mean I would tell you with PJ. He's

117
00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,640
Speaker 5: still a guy that we're counting on.

118
00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,159
Speaker 4: He's done a great job in the meeting room, on

119
00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,760
Speaker 4: the practice field, like you mentioned, has led us in

120
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,000
Speaker 4: these games. He has to be ready to go at

121
00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,040
Speaker 4: a moment's notice. Just felt like this was the right

122
00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,680
Speaker 4: decision for the team right now than Kevin.

123
00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,360
Speaker 11: You didn't want to reveal your left tackle that week,

124
00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,640
Speaker 11: So because you found out, Jeff, that's by the way, Okay,

125
00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,720
Speaker 11: I'll think, so why did you choose to announce who

126
00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,760
Speaker 11: you're studying quarterbacks?

127
00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you found out.

128
00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,200
Speaker 9: It's in having to get backup quarterbacks ready throughout your career.

129
00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,080
Speaker 13: What kind of what are.

130
00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,360
Speaker 9: The key elements in doing that heading into the week.

131
00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so much gets made of the quarterback position.

132
00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,960
Speaker 4: I get it, Uh, but every one of our players

133
00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,000
Speaker 4: has to do their job, and I think when whether

134
00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,039
Speaker 4: it's the left tackle, whether it's the quarterback, you just

135
00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,880
Speaker 4: have to do your job. So as a backup, and

136
00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,800
Speaker 4: particularly in that backup in that room, as a backup quarterback.

137
00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,279
Speaker 5: You have to understand the offense in and out.

138
00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,680
Speaker 4: You have to be ready to operate from the huddle,

139
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,240
Speaker 4: operate at the line of scrimmage. But those are all

140
00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,760
Speaker 4: things that you prepare yourself for during the week. So

141
00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,840
Speaker 4: nothing's going to change from that perspective. We expect who's

142
00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,119
Speaker 4: ever out there just to do their job. An injury

143
00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,720
Speaker 4: like this a significant players seemingly like, do you feel

144
00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,360
Speaker 4: the need to rally the team into reinforce some kind

145
00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080
Speaker 4: of message in a team meeting. I mean, obviously I

146
00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,720
Speaker 4: talked to the team about it this morning. Not going

147
00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,880
Speaker 4: to get into specifics other than say, we have a

148
00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,800
Speaker 4: job to do Sunday.

149
00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,280
Speaker 8: The young player like DTR, he's got some of that

150
00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:21,160
Speaker 8: gunslinger mentality in him. But as you know, you guys

151
00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,040
Speaker 8: are so big. You lead the league right now still

152
00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,240
Speaker 8: in nineteen giveaways. So how do you strike that balance

153
00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,920
Speaker 8: with DTR and letting him like let it rip and

154
00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,160
Speaker 8: air it out and also kind of being.

155
00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,560
Speaker 5: Careful with the ball?

156
00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can play You can play this

157
00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,960
Speaker 4: game a certain way where you are playing care free,

158
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,160
Speaker 4: but you're not being careless.

159
00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,520
Speaker 5: You have to take care of the ball.

160
00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,200
Speaker 4: We know that turnover stat is the most important thing

161
00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,000
Speaker 4: that drives winning and losing. I know Pittsburgh is tied

162
00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,480
Speaker 4: for the league in plus ten and turnover margin, that

163
00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,600
Speaker 4: they've taken care of the ball.

164
00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,240
Speaker 6: They haven't.

165
00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,520
Speaker 4: They haven't given them away very much, and they've had

166
00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 4: a lot of takeaways.

167
00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,280
Speaker 5: So we get that.

168
00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,920
Speaker 4: We understand that part of this game and every game

169
00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,120
Speaker 4: moving forwards, taking care.

170
00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,920
Speaker 6: Of the ball. The tackles is that status quo.

171
00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,520
Speaker 12: You know that Jones isn't practicing today, but also Donneed

172
00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,760
Speaker 12: is practicing.

173
00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,000
Speaker 8: Right.

174
00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll work through all those things this week.

175
00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,480
Speaker 12: One of the things that andrewy Pa told us earlier

176
00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,160
Speaker 12: that he really admires apout yous your ability to the

177
00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,640
Speaker 12: bush kind of stay loge as things really good or

178
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,840
Speaker 12: really bad courses.

179
00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,360
Speaker 14: Does that come naturally to you or is that something.

180
00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:26,840
Speaker 12: You've had to work on.

181
00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:29,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

182
00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 4: I just know we've talked about as a team again

183
00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,600
Speaker 4: with the NFL season, there are ups and downs. There

184
00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,840
Speaker 4: are wins and losses. You lose guys do to injury.

185
00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,040
Speaker 4: People step up, but we don't. We as a team

186
00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,160
Speaker 4: don't ride an emotional roller coaster. It does us no good.

187
00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,559
Speaker 4: We focus on the task at hand.

188
00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,800
Speaker 8: And you address us a little bit at the beginning,

189
00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,880
Speaker 8: but just how remarkable was it for DeShawn to go

190
00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,920
Speaker 8: out there in the second half, go fourteen and fourteen

191
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,319
Speaker 8: on a broken shoulder in a high ankle spring.

192
00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you after the game it was you know,

193
00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,800
Speaker 4: he was a warrior and that was without knowing about

194
00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,280
Speaker 4: the shoulder injury. Just to that scramble late in the

195
00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,520
Speaker 4: game on a high ankle was incredible. Now the throws

196
00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,240
Speaker 4: that he was able to make, especially the one on

197
00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,080
Speaker 4: second down there to Amari, I think about, you know,

198
00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,439
Speaker 4: difference in the game, so incredible feat of toughness.

199
00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,600
Speaker 6: He's not practicing today. Can you are you ruling anybody

200
00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,000
Speaker 6: out or something? Wan DeLine did Marquis?

201
00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, not ruling anybody out?

202
00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,480
Speaker 6: No, Well did Wyatt tick would practice the rest league?

203
00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,240
Speaker 15: We'll see.

204
00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:33,520
Speaker 13: Yeah.

205
00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,320
Speaker 16: What do you think that that Dorian learned from his

206
00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,199
Speaker 16: start that gives you the confidence that he should be the.

207
00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,160
Speaker 15: Guy who lead the Brown took this game against the Stevens.

208
00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with Dorian in that game, again, that

209
00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 4: was a tough spot that he was in. So I

210
00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,400
Speaker 4: think this week, having a full week of preparation, knowing

211
00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,400
Speaker 4: that he's going to be the starter. I think he's important. Uh,

212
00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,800
Speaker 4: every backup will tell you, and it's the truth. They

213
00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,720
Speaker 4: have to be ready to go at a the first play,

214
00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,840
Speaker 4: after the second play, if the starter needs a shoelace,

215
00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,240
Speaker 4: you have to be ready to go. So he's prepared

216
00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,880
Speaker 4: himself all season. Just felt like this was the right

217
00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:09,440
Speaker 4: thing for the team.

218
00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,599
Speaker 17: This team has gone through before and them trying to

219
00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,400
Speaker 17: do their job. But how important is the connection in

220
00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,920
Speaker 17: the bonds that these guys have created in getting through

221
00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,960
Speaker 17: something like this and overcoming adversity.

222
00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it.

223
00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,400
Speaker 4: Cam, And I think you know, this team, as we've

224
00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,520
Speaker 4: all seen, will fight like crazy sometimes in pregame, which

225
00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,800
Speaker 4: I don't recommend, but that's what's required. And these guys

226
00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,040
Speaker 4: they care about each other. They're going to push each other.

227
00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,880
Speaker 4: They're there for each other. We have de Shaun's back

228
00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,120
Speaker 4: through all this as he gets better, and we know

229
00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,640
Speaker 4: he's got our back, so we'll continue to fight.

230
00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,360
Speaker 5: That's just what we do.

231
00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,640
Speaker 8: Did you you know, did you give any consideration to,

232
00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,120
Speaker 8: you know, just hauling in some veteran experienced quarterback, maybe

233
00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,679
Speaker 8: somebody you've had some experience with and just throwing them

234
00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,080
Speaker 8: out there.

235
00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,839
Speaker 4: Obviously, that's something that Andrew and his and the crew

236
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,360
Speaker 4: always look at those type of things.

237
00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,760
Speaker 5: But uh, I feel really confident with the guys we've got. Yes, Tony,

238
00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,080
Speaker 5: was that.

239
00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,200
Speaker 6: With Watson in there?

240
00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,079
Speaker 12: Are you more inclined to use a second quarterback based

241
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,400
Speaker 12: on performance during the game?

242
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm not even Yeah. For me, it's just

243
00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,160
Speaker 4: getting our guys ready to play.

244
00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,600
Speaker 10: Is des gonna be on the sideline Sunday?

245
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,160
Speaker 15: If he's not, how long is he gonna be away

246
00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,640
Speaker 15: from the team.

247
00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're still working through all that.

248
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,679
Speaker 6: You'd be on the sunline Sunday.

249
00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,000
Speaker 5: It depends on when that surgery is scheduled.

250
00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,760
Speaker 8: Now, what about you say teams have to go through

251
00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,599
Speaker 8: adversity and you have to go through the bounces of

252
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,360
Speaker 8: the NFL. But what would you have said if someone

253
00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,520
Speaker 8: told you in preseason that you would be without Jack Concline,

254
00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,680
Speaker 8: Nick Chubb, Deshaun Watson for.

255
00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,719
Speaker 5: The second Yeah.

256
00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,959
Speaker 4: Again, that's why you're trying to You can't predict it

257
00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 4: because you know you don't even try to. But I've

258
00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,800
Speaker 4: said it a thousand times, greatest team sports there is,

259
00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,240
Speaker 4: you know, That's what I love about this game. I

260
00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,400
Speaker 4: love the challenge, We love those guys, but the reality

261
00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,480
Speaker 4: is that they're out for the season, and we trust

262
00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,800
Speaker 4: the guys that are going to be in their spots.

263
00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,360
Speaker 10: And when your defense was able to help you kind

264
00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,840
Speaker 10: of carry through the first time that Shaun was.

265
00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,280
Speaker 18: Out, what do you tell those guys on that side

266
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,760
Speaker 18: of the ball as.

267
00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,800
Speaker 19: Far as maybe not trying to do too much.

268
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think our guys understand what good defense looks like.

269
00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,679
Speaker 5: It really just comes down to doing your job.

270
00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,880
Speaker 4: We have really good leadership on that side of the ball,

271
00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,800
Speaker 4: so I trust it they'll continue to keep that their focus.

272
00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:30,840
Speaker 13: Good.

273
00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,160
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you guys.

274
00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,480
Speaker 3: All right, there's your head coach, Kevin Stefanski on look.

275
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,760
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to do that.

276
00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,080
Speaker 2: You have to say those things and do those things

277
00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 2: when you're a coach. I'd asked you before we went

278
00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,319
Speaker 2: to coach when you heard the news this morning and

279
00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,880
Speaker 2: your reaction to it, and now you have a floor, sir.

280
00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,840
Speaker 14: I was probably like everybody else who is a fan

281
00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,600
Speaker 14: of the Cleveland Browns, I was gutted. I mean honestly,

282
00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,760
Speaker 14: I got a I got a text from Gibbet that said, like,

283
00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:06,800
Speaker 14: what the heck paraphrasing, and I'm like, did nicely. I'm

284
00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,520
Speaker 14: like what, yeah, And then I called to me to answer,

285
00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,679
Speaker 14: and I was like what, You're freaking me out and

286
00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,559
Speaker 14: I was like scrolling Twitter, there was nothing, nothing, no,

287
00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,120
Speaker 14: huh obviously.

288
00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,360
Speaker 15: And uh.

289
00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,400
Speaker 14: And then he directed me to an internal note and

290
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:36,520
Speaker 14: I was just like, you know, gutted. I mean, I've

291
00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,280
Speaker 14: done this for a long time. I know most people

292
00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,400
Speaker 14: listening to this have been fans of this team longer

293
00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,719
Speaker 14: than obviously I've been an employee of this team. But

294
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,480
Speaker 14: I've been a fan now of the Cleveland Browns for

295
00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,800
Speaker 14: you know, twenty plus years. I've worked here. This is

296
00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,840
Speaker 14: my eleventh season and gone through a lot of very

297
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,120
Speaker 14: difficult things in the sense of like, oh and sixteen

298
00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,000
Speaker 14: one in fifteen, tough stuff from my first year, my

299
00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,360
Speaker 14: first full season was twenty fourteen. We're seven and four.

300
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,880
Speaker 14: We finished seven and nine, John Football all.

301
00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,360
Speaker 3: Of it, right, Oh yeah, there's a lot.

302
00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,480
Speaker 14: You go through that and we get bake and we have,

303
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,120
Speaker 14: you know, the twenty twenty season. But it like, yes,

304
00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,959
Speaker 14: we made the playoffs, and yes I was there in

305
00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,040
Speaker 14: attends when we beat Seelers, but nobody else was. No,

306
00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,280
Speaker 14: so it didn't feel real in some ways, and then

307
00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,400
Speaker 14: you know, this year, it just felt like the way

308
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,520
Speaker 14: certain things had happened that this was in many ways

309
00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,960
Speaker 14: the team didn't say and maybe it still will be.

310
00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,360
Speaker 14: Maybe this is just like no Jack Conklin, no Nick Chubb,

311
00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,080
Speaker 14: no problem, all of that. Now we could add no

312
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,320
Speaker 14: to Shaun Watson, which I guess he was in that

313
00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,040
Speaker 14: one as well, but permanently for this season. It's just

314
00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320
Speaker 14: it's so hard because it felt like coming out of

315
00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,480
Speaker 14: that Baltimore game and after that game, I stood outside

316
00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,120
Speaker 14: of our buses because it's a little bit of a

317
00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360
Speaker 14: time period from there, and obviously it was such a

318
00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,560
Speaker 14: high high but the way that everything set up in Baltimore.

319
00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:58,320
Speaker 5: Is that you.

320
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,720
Speaker 14: I only walk down kind of this narrow thing. So

321
00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,560
Speaker 14: like where I was standing, everybody ultimately had to walk

322
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,480
Speaker 14: by me at one point or another. Yeah, And so

323
00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,480
Speaker 14: I got to talk to, you know, basically everybody after

324
00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,040
Speaker 14: the game, including DeShawn, and I just came away from

325
00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,480
Speaker 14: that feeling like these guys all now know that they

326
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,920
Speaker 14: can win the Super Bowl and that they one hundred

327
00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,120
Speaker 14: percent believe in that guy, to Shaun Watson to lead

328
00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,480
Speaker 14: them there and play his role as the quarterback, which

329
00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,000
Speaker 14: while this is the ultimate team game, that's the singularly

330
00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,520
Speaker 14: important position in all of professional sports and especially obviously

331
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,520
Speaker 14: in the National Football League, and that you know, to

332
00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,400
Speaker 14: go fourteen to fourteen to do what he did. That's

333
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,240
Speaker 14: like why he was brought here on the road against

334
00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,720
Speaker 14: the Baltimore Ravens. And it took everybody a defensive touchdown.

335
00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,120
Speaker 14: But you know you've got a great team. But great

336
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,920
Speaker 14: teams will most cases only go as far as you

337
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,800
Speaker 14: know their quarterback will take them. And while you know

338
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,600
Speaker 14: Roddy mclown we're going to hear from him, has some

339
00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,920
Speaker 14: very good words about being in Philadelphia. When you know

340
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,200
Speaker 14: Carson Wentz was playing an MVP level, goes down. Nick

341
00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,720
Speaker 14: Fole steps in. The only difference is that Nick Foles

342
00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,640
Speaker 14: had like played and been a established quarterback in the

343
00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,120
Speaker 14: league and.

344
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,800
Speaker 3: Year with Chip he was seven and two, so you

345
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,720
Speaker 3: had track record.

346
00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,480
Speaker 14: Yes, so it was a little it's obviously it's different,

347
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,239
Speaker 14: but it was just like you felt that the euphoria

348
00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,080
Speaker 14: in this town Sunday night, Monday, Tuesday, I mean I was,

349
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,400
Speaker 14: I was out and about each of the last two

350
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,000
Speaker 14: days and just the passion and the joy and the

351
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,960
Speaker 14: like it's finally yeah, our time yep. The excitement for

352
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,440
Speaker 14: the game on Sunday was as excited as I've heard anybody,

353
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200
Speaker 14: and I thought was was and still is in many

354
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,200
Speaker 14: respects in terms of the reality of it, but not

355
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,480
Speaker 14: what we thought it was going to be, you know,

356
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,160
Speaker 14: the biggest regular season game that I could probably remember,

357
00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,080
Speaker 14: in the sense that obviously the one to beat the

358
00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,800
Speaker 14: Steelers and get in the playoffs was there. But as

359
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,400
Speaker 14: Jim said at the end of it, the only missing

360
00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,200
Speaker 14: this is a full fully different I thought it was

361
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,760
Speaker 14: going to be the most probably incredible environment I'd been

362
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,120
Speaker 14: a part of, sure in my time with the Cleveland Browns,

363
00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,200
Speaker 14: and it still will be. But it it obviously hurts,

364
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,960
Speaker 14: and now you have to rally around and hope that

365
00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,080
Speaker 14: you know, Dorian Thompson Robinson, a guy who had a

366
00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,280
Speaker 14: great preseason, who was put in an unbelievably impossible situation

367
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,119
Speaker 14: against the Baltimore Ravens, can now kind of do for

368
00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 14: the Browns or be for the Browns what Rock Purdy

369
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,119
Speaker 14: ended up being for the forty nine Ers, where you've

370
00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,120
Speaker 14: got talented playmakers around him, you've got a great defense,

371
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,680
Speaker 14: and they go out and they play efficient ball, and

372
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 14: that's what you need now. So on one sense, you

373
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,680
Speaker 14: know you're you're gutted, you're you feel like the winds

374
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,440
Speaker 14: knocked out of you. But you know that's you can't

375
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,879
Speaker 14: control that. Well, you can control this point, right, is

376
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:49,280
Speaker 14: getting up and fighting and making something of this season

377
00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,480
Speaker 14: that you're sitting at six and three, and there's a

378
00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320
Speaker 14: i'd say probably a fifty percent chance that when you

379
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 14: play this game on Sunday that it will be for

380
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,440
Speaker 14: first place in the AF North.

381
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's look, there have any stages here, and

382
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,480
Speaker 2: I understand what I'm Evan asked to say, I know,

383
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,480
Speaker 2: brief and yeah, and I understand what Kevin has to

384
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,159
Speaker 2: say and what ab had to say this morning, and

385
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 2: I get it. But when you think about when you

386
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 2: think about mourning or grief or all of that stuff,

387
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,399
Speaker 2: the first step is just kind of wallowing in it.

388
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 2: And that's it's not just it's not it's the it's

389
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,359
Speaker 2: all of it. It's the type of games that you

390
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 2: won this year, the games that we typically lose, and

391
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 2: we won them. We won two games with PJ. Walker

392
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: went too and one with him like that, and he

393
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 2: wasn't great in those games. And yet you still won them.

394
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 2: Things started to happen your way. What happened in Baltimore

395
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 2: on Sunday, it was like, wow, this is you don't

396
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: win these type of games when you give the other

397
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,400
Speaker 2: team fourteen points and you bury yourself and you miss

398
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 2: an extra point, like you run a successful four minute

399
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,479
Speaker 2: drill and then actually hit the game winning field goal

400
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 2: and it's set up this game and you, by the way,

401
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,479
Speaker 2: you win in Baltimore because of him. He went fourteen

402
00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,679
Speaker 2: to fourteen in the second half. Yes, last week when

403
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 2: we were and would you rather win or a shootout?

404
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,439
Speaker 2: And Watson plays great? I said, you can almost make

405
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,400
Speaker 2: an argument that it. I'd rather have a shootout loss

406
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 2: and he plays great because we kept waiting to see it,

407
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,640
Speaker 2: and juxtapposed to how bad he was in the first half,

408
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 2: just uncomfortable and then how a roic now, especially knowing

409
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 2: that he played with a broken shoulder and a high

410
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 2: ankle sprain, and to go fourteen to fourteen. So that

411
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: set up a game this week with Pittsburgh. That was

412
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 2: all the thing that is was going to be all

413
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 2: of the things that you said, right, it was going

414
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 2: to be this cauldron. It was going to be it

415
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 2: was going to be the most ridiculous atmosphere of all time.

416
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 2: But it also felt like it was a passing of

417
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 2: the torch, like it was almost like finally, Yes, you've

418
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 2: ran out of luck. You don't have the right quarterback,

419
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 2: you don't have the right offense. You're still formidable your sorcery,

420
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 2: you're winning games when you don't out out how to

421
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 2: execute the other team. But we're the real team. Yes,

422
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: we are the team of consequence in this division. That

423
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: was going to happen on Sunday. Many of the things

424
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 2: you said, and many things Kevin said, and our players

425
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 2: have said, all things are still possible. But it it

426
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 2: also would say, and you said this, the ceiling with

427
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 2: our defense, the floor with our defense.

428
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 3: Is very very high.

429
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 2: Our ceiling was defined by Deshaun Watson. That ceiling got

430
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 2: considerably lower today and that's a reality and that sucks,

431
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: and we could try to shine it and whatever. But

432
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 2: the despair that comes from this news today, coming off

433
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: of the performance he had and heading into the game,

434
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 2: that to me felt like we have arrived, We got

435
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 2: it right this time. We're cruising. You guys are the

436
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 2: paper tiger. Watch on Sunday and now all of that

437
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: is up in the air, doesn't mean you still can't

438
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh.

439
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 3: So I don't think they're very good.

440
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 2: I think you probably could beat Pittsburgh on Sunday. But

441
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 2: the ceiling is very, very different than what it was

442
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: twenty four hours ago.

443
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 14: Right twenty four hours ago, I think it was. It

444
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 14: was not even rose colored or Brown's colored glasses to

445
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 14: say this team can win the AFC North and win

446
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl.

447
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: I think you could say to yourself, I could see

448
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: this team going to Kansas City or Cincinnati coming here

449
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: and going toe to toe with them.

450
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 14: Would you win?

451
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: Who knows?

452
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: But I would give us a puncher's chance against anybody

453
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: coming out of that game on Sunday, Yes, one percent.

454
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 14: And so look, you all know me. You guys have

455
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 14: listened to me for many, many years. And for those

456
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 14: who have not who are just joining, welcome where you been.

457
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 14: Like by tomorrow I will be fully full steam ahead,

458
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 14: like this is what it is. But I do think

459
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 14: that it is fair and I think it's okay for

460
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 14: people to take some time to deal with this is

461
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 14: a significant out of the blue injury and that you

462
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 14: just saw one of the guttiest and now what we know,

463
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 14: broken shoulder, high ankle sprain, incredible gutty talented performances to

464
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 14: make the throw he made to a market like all

465
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 14: of it doesn't even seemly feasible. We know now what

466
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 14: we know now and the momentum you ad coming out

467
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 14: that I mean Deshaun and we're going to hear from him.

468
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 14: He wanted to play through it. He was like, I

469
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 14: want to play and they had to basically say you

470
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 14: cannot play because you could completely your shoulder could be

471
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 14: completely ripped apart and never recover from that. That was

472
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 14: the structure. There wasn't stability in the structure, and you can't.

473
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 14: You're a quarterback, you can you cannot mess with that.

474
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 14: I think it's okay to be to be bummed right now.

475
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 14: Is a Cleveland Browns appropriate? I think it's like it's it's.

476
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: More it's the natural feeling.

477
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 5: Right.

478
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 14: We were all bummed after Nick Chubb went down, right,

479
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 14: and that was coming off of a lot and we saw.

480
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: The other thing is is we saw that happen in

481
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: real time. Yeah, so you knew what happened. The word you,

482
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: the phrase used out of the blue. That's what's crazy

483
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: about this because there was rumblings that the ankle was

484
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: worse than maybe what was originally thought on Sunday. So

485
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: all yesterday and and even in a Monday, I'm thinking

486
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: that ankle might be a little worse than we realize,

487
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: right walk, I know, I know he was, but I

488
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: had no no clue that.

489
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 14: There would be a shoulder season ending. Wasn't on the table.

490
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 3: There's no thing on an ankle.

491
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, maybe he's limited all week and he

492
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: he practices, He plays Sunday without much practice. But finally,

493
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: like Homes did and was like and he Gibson, he yeah,

494
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: but he plays. Right, there was nothing to prepare you

495
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: for the news this morning, season ending shoulder surgery.

496
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: Nothing.

497
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 14: Not only would he not play Againsteelers, he will not

498
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 14: play again, done in twenty twenty third. It's no way

499
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 14: to prepare for that. No, there's no way to prepare

500
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 14: for it. And I admire and I certainly understand from

501
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 14: the positions that you know, Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski

502
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 14: were in and had a lot of the guys on

503
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 14: the steamer in that you have to just put the

504
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 14: blinders on and continue to chug along. But I think

505
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 14: it is fair to understand that we have right we

506
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 14: have we are. We went from trying to use our

507
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 14: house analogy some more so, we went from coming out

508
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 14: of that game we thought we were living in like

509
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 14: a three story man. That's how high the ceiling had

510
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 14: gotten coming out of that game.

511
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, all as possible.

512
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 13: And now.

513
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 14: We still have the right to construct those floors, but

514
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 14: we've we've gone down a few floors in terms of

515
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 14: our ceiling. Our floors exact same, But like you gotta

516
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 14: be you got to be honest about it, like Deshaun Watson.

517
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 14: And there's a reason. And I know that there's so

518
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 14: much talking now about the backups and how come we

519
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 14: can don't have a backup plan and all of that,

520
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 14: but the reality of the National Football League is, And

521
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 14: as I challenged my good friend Jimmy Bang Bang when

522
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 14: he was very upset this morning, I said, name the

523
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 14: backup for any team that has a franchise quarterback on

524
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 14: a second contract. Just go ahead, go ahead, name them.

525
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 3: You can't.

526
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 14: Nobody knows who the back up for Kansas City or

527
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 14: Buffalo or the Rams. It was Brett Rippon and they're like, yeah,

528
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 14: that's a Vega Stafford brought some guy in off the street, right.

529
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 14: In this case it was Carson Wentz. But that's unfortunately

530
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 14: the reality of it. And Josh Obbs has been a

531
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 14: great story. And look this team, and even if it

532
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 14: was Josh Jobs, none of that matters. The ceiling was

533
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 14: coming down, like he's not you know, you know, he's not.

534
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: Backing up to Shawn Watson nineteen eighty eight. Steve Young

535
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: is not backing him up. That doesn't exist.

536
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: That's over. Like that's over.

537
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Like Kozar going to the Dallas. That doesn't happen anymore.

538
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: The league is not built that way. Tom Moore, there's

539
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: a quote going around from him, the longtime officive coordinator

540
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: the Colts about Peyton Manning. They were asking him and

541
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: he said, look, if eighteen goes down, we don't have

542
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: a practice plan for the alternative to that.

543
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: It's over. It's done.

544
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 2: There's no there's no other thing here. Like you get

545
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: lucky and you fall into purty. Those type of things happen.

546
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: But when you have somebody like this, this is the plan.

547
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 14: That is the plan. And now obviously you know we

548
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 14: have to deviate from that plan. And in much the

549
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 14: same way that we saw a fifth round pick and

550
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 14: Jerome Ford run for a career high hundred and seven

551
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 14: yards and fill in for Nick Chub. We're gonna now

552
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 14: need a fifth round pick in Dorian Times and Robinson

553
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 14: to fill in. And I think that we have a

554
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 14: team that is capable of winning with average quarterback play.

555
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 14: I think we proved, I mean we have and we've

556
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 14: done it with the below average quarterback play quite frankly,

557
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 14: so we need him to do that. And then once

558
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 14: you get rolling, you never know, like it's okay. I

559
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 14: think for everybody to hit this kind of pause, this reset,

560
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 14: dislike feeling of sadness. But now we do have a

561
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 14: game to play. It's still better be a great environment

562
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 14: and the Browns still have a chance to do something

563
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 14: very very significant on Sunday against the Steelers. And after that,

564
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 14: will it be harder than it was before?

565
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

566
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 14: Absolutely significantly harder. Deshaun Watson is not going to bail

567
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 14: you out with perfect second halves. It's not that doesn't

568
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 14: exist anymore. Yeah, but now you got to go out

569
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 14: with you know, your defense, which is elite. You're able

570
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 14: to run the football. You gotta go and do it.

571
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 14: But it's okay. I think to be upset and disheartened

572
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 14: because you're right, Nobody nobody unless it's I guess, I

573
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 14: guess the people DeShawn said he got the information last night.

574
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 14: So those who are privy, those on that level that

575
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 14: were proved that information last night were the only ones

576
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 14: that did not go to sleep last night thinking that

577
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 14: there was no Deshaun Watson was done for the season.

578
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you two except further, we all thought he

579
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: was playing Sunday because he thought he'd get through the ankle.

580
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna play, he said it. I'm gonna play.

581
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's it.

582
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: So you weren't even considering That's what I'm saying, Like,

583
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: if it was ankle, you'd be like, wow, I didn't

584
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: see that, but.

585
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: I remember the injury. I saw it. You kind of

586
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: were prepared that potentially that could be worse.

587
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: But Ton, when the tape came right, all of that

588
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: type of stuff, You and I, players and coaches, front

589
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: office have to say what they have to say. You

590
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: and I are the conduit between that and the fans.

591
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: That's that's the job, and you've been one of the

592
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: best at that for a long time since you've been

593
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: part of the organization.

594
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: So yes, we can. They have to put on the

595
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: right face for this thing, and the players have to

596
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: in the coaches.

597
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: But this is a time of it's a gut punch man,

598
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: it's numb, it's devastating, it's all those things, and it

599
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: does change the trajectory of this season. There will come

600
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: a time and we're gonna get into coming up next

601
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: in terms of what this plan can be from Dorian

602
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson. You heard Coach Brown off the top or

603
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: Coach shuts to fans gift the top of our show,

604
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: talk about the notion of right away.

605
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: It's dtr So what does that mean? What does that

606
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: look like?

607
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: How is he ready? We will get into that. It's

608
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: obviously a very very brutal day here, but we'll do

609
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: our best to move forward with this thing and this

610
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: team will as well. We're often running. You Listen to

611
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

612
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

613
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to

614
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett. Now live in Ohio on eight

615
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

616
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Nathan Segura.

617
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the Browns social media channels

618
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: daily to play the Browns Digital scratch Off game for

619
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: your chance when Clubs seats other great prizes presented by

620
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: the Ohio Lottery, the official lottery of your Cleveland Brown's.

621
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: Time of the Hot Topics of the Day presented by

622
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: Vivid Seats, official fan experienced partner of your Cleveland Browns.

623
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: As you no doubt know by now, Deshaun Watson lost

624
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: for the season with shoulder surgery. He will have shoulder

625
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: to repair a broken bone in his right shoulder.

626
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: He will be placed on IR.

627
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: So just from a going forward standpoint, you heard Kevin

628
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: off the start top of our program talking about we

629
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson at quarterback this week, and I would

630
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: assume going forward for the Browns at least for this week.

631
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 14: Though for sure, I think that you know, it's a

632
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 14: decision where you know what PJ Walker is and PJ

633
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 14: certainly gave everything to this team and he'll be the

634
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 14: backup for DTR going forward. But you know, forty nine

635
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 14: percent completions, one touchdown, five interceptions, fifty one rating, that's

636
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 14: not going to do it.

637
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 13: Now.

638
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 14: DTR's debut, we know was very was bad against the

639
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 14: Baltimore Folks, an fathomably difficult situation that he was placed

640
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 14: in with a game plan that was in no way,

641
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 14: shape or form design for him to operate it. This

642
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 14: will be different. He will have the full week of preparations.

643
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 14: Obviously a very difficult assignment against a very good defense.

644
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 14: But I think you are you need the upside that

645
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 14: DTR provides. And I know that many of you were

646
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 14: all coming out of the preseason thinking DTR should have been,

647
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 14: should be the backup, and ultimately he was, and at

648
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 14: the time there was certainly not a lot of thought

649
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 14: about that move. So DTR talented kid, played a ton

650
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 14: of football at UCLA, holds every record at that school.

651
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 14: He is a good athlete. He will be able to

652
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 14: use his legs and make plays with them, and you

653
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 14: just need him to be able to deliver the football accurately.

654
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 14: I think we're going to play, you know, not a

655
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 14: beautiful style of football. Try to muddy these games up,

656
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 14: play defense, run the ball. I think punts will be

657
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 14: viewed as certainly very viable options to end a lot

658
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 14: of drives. And then you hope that you can catch

659
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 14: a little lightning in the bottle with DTR, where he

660
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 14: can get hot, his confident and can grow and you

661
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 14: can do things like the forty nine Ers were able

662
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 14: to do with an unbelievable supporting cast around a quarterback

663
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 14: that people didn't think was going to be able to

664
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 14: perform the way he has in Rock Purty. And so

665
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 14: that's what you're hoping to get out of it. I

666
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 14: think with PJ. Walker, you very much know what PJ.

667
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 14: Walker is, and we are very lucky for the gutty

668
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 14: gritty performances that he played for us. But he turns

669
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 14: the ball over too much. DTR.

670
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: You hope that the arm either that he is needed,

671
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, you hope that.

672
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 14: Any made unbelievable plays the thirty yard at Elijah More

673
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 14: on the last drive against Indianapolis phenomenal. We don't win

674
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 14: that game without it. You hope that DTR his ceiling

675
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 14: certainly is higher at this point, and you hope that

676
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 14: he's a guy that can, with playing in the game,

677
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 14: get better. And you are a better football team, even

678
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 14: with the news today than the Pittsburgh Steelers. You got

679
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 14: to go prove it. But if you go out there

680
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 14: and play clean and at least stake free. You'll beat them.

681
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: You will.

682
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 14: Our defense is better reality, your offense is still better.

683
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: There's a couple of things that are different about the

684
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: last time around with Deshaun and the injury, the most

685
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: notable one being now you know it is the length

686
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: of the injury. You know that he's out for the

687
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: rest of the year. So you've played nine games, you

688
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: have eight remaining, so that is known, and that now

689
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: you can take more of a long view of it,

690
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: whereas before it was we just got to try to

691
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: put ourselves in the best position to win this week

692
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: and hopefully Deshaun's back next week. Well, now you know

693
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: he's not coming back, so now you have to try

694
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: to go for something that has a higher ceiling to

695
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: provide for more opportunity to win week in and week

696
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: out as opposed to on an individual week. If that

697
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: all makes sense. You're six and three. This is what

698
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: remains Pittsburgh here at Denver, at the Rams, Jacksonville, here, Bears,

699
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: here at Texans, Jets, Bengals.

700
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Eight games.

701
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: Those are the eight. You go four and four, you're

702
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Ten seven is going to do it.

703
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: I'd bet anything.

704
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: So that's very duable. You've played.

705
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 2: Really in many ways, the toughest part of your schedule

706
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: is now behind you. This is a far more manageable slate.

707
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: It was a slate that, quite frankly, is ranked twenty

708
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: fourth in the league in terms of easiest remaining schedules.

709
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: It's a slate that, quite frankly, when you had Deshaun Watson,

710
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: you said, my god, why can't you go six and

711
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: two or seven and one in that stretch?

712
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 14: We thought, if you could get to ten week ten,

713
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 14: at six and four, you were like golden yep. And

714
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 14: if you could get there at five and five, you

715
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 14: still had a chance. And we're gonna worse be six

716
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 14: and fourth the chance to be seven and three. So

717
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 14: I agree with you. It's right there. And I do wonder.

718
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 14: You know, they're not going to obviously say it. You

719
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 14: want dtr and you hope that you can catch that

720
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 14: lightning in a bottle and get that upside. But I

721
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 14: do wonder if there are veterans out there who are

722
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 14: probably a little bit past their prime, but they feel

723
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 14: like could manage a football game for the Cleveland Browns

724
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 14: that they will give a look to. So that would

725
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 14: be Foles like that camp, right, Foles Flaco Flaco, Matt Ryan,

726
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 14: Philip Rivers.

727
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan's in a booth. Philip Rivers is coaching a

728
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: game on Friday. I just a playoff game on Friday.

729
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: I've seen some Cam Newton, I've seen Tom Brady. Yeah,

730
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: the amount of Tom Brady superimposed the one thing I

731
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: would tell you on like the Tom Brady Matt Ryan

732
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, those level of guys. I mean, obviously one's

733
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: the greatest wall timer in the conversation. The other two

734
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: are kind of, you know, all pro MVP type guys,

735
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: pro Bowl type cats. I think you have to ask

736
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: yourself the question, would they want to come out of

737
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: their lifestyle in November to play in the AFC North

738
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: in this meat grinder of a division in the elements.

739
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 14: One division game left?

740
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: I understand, but it's all those guys have all their cash.

741
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Their life is good, the opportunity is good. By the way,

742
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: without your top three tackles for the time being. That

743
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: isn't like if Chubb were here in Conkland.

744
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: We're here.

745
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: I just don't want to get people's hopes up to

746
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: think that like Matt Ryan's going to parachute out of

747
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: the booth and come quarterback. It's like seems it seems

748
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: like that would be very real to me. That would

749
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: be something that seems realistic to me.

750
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 14: If that's likely to me that we're get these that

751
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 14: dtr And and PJ. Walker are likely going to be

752
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 14: your two quarterbacks or primary quarterbacks the rest of the season. Now,

753
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 14: if there is a different option or path, that would

754
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 14: be something that would be good, but it would have

755
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 14: to be somebody that has some familiarity with this style

756
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 14: of offense. First and foremost Ryan would I mean he

757
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 14: was it was rough in Indie last year with him.

758
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 14: I mean he got benched, Oh yeah, way through the season.

759
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: I also yeah, no, for sure.

760
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 14: I mean it's it's tough. There's a reason, like.

761
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: There's a reason these guys aren't playing, and that the.

762
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 14: Jets didn't do it, you know, and I'm sure they're

763
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 14: to your point contract demands that would be what they are.

764
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 14: I'm for the Browns. What you need now is to

765
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 14: and it's a it's a not a high ceiling situation,

766
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 14: right And I don't even think, for example, like let's

767
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 14: say a guy like Ryan Tannehill or even Jacoby said

768
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 14: you've got to release me, like give me a chance

769
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 14: to go play somewhere else, they still have to go.

770
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 14: I believe at this point season even veterans go through waivers.

771
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Those Cats would both have to The guys we were

772
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 2: talking about weren't because the creators. But I'm talking about

773
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: guys on teams have to go clear wave and we're

774
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: way down, We're six and three.

775
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 14: Nobody would let them get so, like I've seen a

776
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 14: lot of talking about.

777
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: It, even like Cincinnati would jump in front to keep

778
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: them from here. Yes, right, yeah, so that's that's to

779
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: me is not realistic either.

780
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 14: I think they need to get that thing like in

781
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 14: the NBA where vets can get bought out and then

782
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 14: can go sign with whoever they want.

783
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 3: That'd make more would make it more fun.

784
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 14: Like Ryan Tannel should be able to play for somebody

785
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 14: if if there's somebody that would want him to play

786
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 14: for them. But again, all of the stuff we're talking

787
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 14: about and being real outside of Tom Brady, which is

788
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 14: not going to happen. No, And I'd be by the

789
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 14: way if I'm if I were to be wrong about that, fine,

790
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 14: couldn't be more thrilled sign me up. But these are

791
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 14: all known things that don't necessarily move the needle tremendous

792
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 14: one way or the other. DTR right now is unknown

793
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 14: and then unknown, which is why the NFL values draft

794
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 14: picked so highly before they're known. There is there is

795
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 14: at least hope that he can get some confidence and

796
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 14: that he can be, you know, like he was in college,

797
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 14: sixty nine percent passer, able to extend drives with his legs,

798
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 14: all of that. It's got a good arm. It's it's

799
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 14: obviously not an ideal situation, and any team that loses

800
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 14: their quarterback, as you talked about earlier, there isn't a

801
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 14: contingency plan that really is for the season. There's a

802
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 14: contingency plan that's like, can we get through a couple

803
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 14: of games and the very specific formula, that's one thing,

804
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 14: But can we get through the whole season? That's something

805
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 14: get together differently, right, Like they didn't bring back Flacco,

806
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 14: which is surprising because I thought he could at least

807
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 14: throw the ball as we saw in Week two last year.

808
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: It's just.

809
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 14: There's so much good about this team. But man, you

810
00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 14: gotta say, it's pretty unreal that in against the the Bengals,

811
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 14: we lose Jack Conklin for the year. Against Steelers, he

812
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 14: was nick chubbed for the year. Now against the Ravens,

813
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 14: we lose Deshaun Watson for the year.

814
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's hard to wrap your head around.

815
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, yeah, yes, it's just such

816
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: a such a staggering amount of bad luck and misfortune

817
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: from a personnel standpoint.

818
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: You just no one in the league is dealing with this.

819
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: It's one thing you lose Rogers, that's a big blow.

820
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: You lose in Week one.

821
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: But like there's I mean, we got to look at

822
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: nixt right there on the wall every day we look

823
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: at I mean, you think, like how it would feel

824
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: differently if Nick were still here and Jerome Ford's very good,

825
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: but like it's just different.

826
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 14: Has anybody lost three you know, and quarterback obviously the biggest,

827
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 14: So you'd say, yes, the Jets have lost their quarterback.

828
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 14: But I'm talking so your quarterback's a three time Pro Bowler,

829
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 14: your running backs made four straight Pro Bowlers, and then

830
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 14: your right tackles a two time first team All Pro.

831
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: Like vikings, like if Jefferson was done for the year,

832
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: but he's not, but he's not. But if it was

833
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: cousins Jefferson and.

834
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 14: And but somebody, yeah, like coming like if yeah, yeah, three,

835
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 14: I mean it's this is not coming back.

836
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: No, yeah, no, there's not a there's like this that

837
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: I that I could certainly think of.

838
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 14: No, No, the only teams that have lost quarterbacks are

839
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 14: are the Jets and Vikings. Jefferson's going to miss five games. Yeah,

840
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 14: but he's trending to come back this week.

841
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 13: Right.

842
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like Lane Johnson Hurts and a j Brown.

843
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Right, good luck, right, good luck with all that. Yeah,

844
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: wonder how that Philly push thing is gonna work?

845
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: Now that is that a successful?

846
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 14: Now with that, at least Deandres Soff would get one

847
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 14: yard touchdown, get some fantasy points, get a one yard

848
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 14: touchdown based on the menu.

849
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Gotta try and gotta try and laugh amongst this a

850
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: little bit. Deshaun Watson available, I didn't think he would be.

851
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 6: I was good.

852
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: Good on him for doing it. It's an incredibly candid

853
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: media session. We'll have it for you coming up next.

854
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: You listen to Clear the Runs Daily on eight at ESPN.

855
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bounley bed

856
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

857
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: Browns Fans getting to Cleveland brown stity and quicker on

858
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: game day with Express access presented by a Horizon enrolled

859
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: for free today to enter through exclusive lanes at each gate.

860
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: Go to the ticket stab in the mobile app to

861
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: learn more. And now here is at the podium with Sean.

862
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 18: When did you realize that, yeah, there's something really wrong

863
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 18: with your shoulder.

864
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 15: It's really hard to say, I guess.

865
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 16: I mean I felt something pretty much throughout towards the

866
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 16: end of the first quarter, then a halftime I kind

867
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 16: of recognized something was wrong, but you know, during the

868
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 16: midst of the game, you know, I was just pushing

869
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 16: through whatever I was feeling. So and then you know,

870
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 16: after the game and Monday and Tuesday we got you know,

871
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 16: testing done, and that's when I found out from the

872
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 16: doctors that it was, uh, it was something worse than

873
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 16: what what we thought it.

874
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 10: Was this Shaun, can you go through your emotions now

875
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 10: that this there's the settling end.

876
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 9: You're gonna be out for this season and not be

877
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 9: able to finish it with a team.

878
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 16: I mean, it's it's it's it's it's very tough heard

879
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 16: about it, but you know, i'm'a make sure, you know,

880
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 16: I keep my head above water and make sure I

881
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 16: stay in touch with all the guys and support them

882
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 16: as much as I possibly can, and and you know,

883
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 16: attack this rehab process after surgery and make sure that

884
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 16: I'm doing whatever I can to be beneficial for the

885
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 16: team while not you know, actually been on the field

886
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 16: with them, and also.

887
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 15: You know, prepping for you know, the next year.

888
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 6: Do you know exactly what hit it was?

889
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 15: I I have no idea, you know, I'm I'm I'm

890
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 15: not even sure.

891
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: You know.

892
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 16: We been trying to figure that out too the last

893
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 16: couple of days, you know, And it could have been

894
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 16: any one of those hits.

895
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: You know.

896
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 16: At the time, like I said, I was, you know,

897
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 16: of course feeling something, but you know, in the midst

898
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 16: of a game and and with everything going on, you know, I.

899
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 15: Was just trying to lock in on the next play

900
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 15: to to try to get the victory.

901
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 6: Do you know when you have surgery?

902
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 15: Thank you sometime next week. I'm a hounder.

903
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: Second, are you completely.

904
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 8: One hundred percent positive that this has nothing to do

905
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 8: whatsoever with your previous shoulder injury?

906
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 15: I have, I have no idea.

907
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 16: I'm not I'm not sure, alright. I found out all

908
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 16: this information yesterday, so M yeah, it's still still trying

909
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 16: to process everything that's going on. So you know, just

910
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 16: like everyone else, coming in Monday, I thought, you know,

911
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 16: just banged up a little bit and we'd get ready

912
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 16: for Pittsburgh.

913
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 15: But you know, yesterday it was a different story.

914
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 12: Do you think you would have been able to play

915
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 12: with your stand.

916
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 16: Calling or oh for sure, Yeah, I I would've That

917
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 16: was my mindset. I said, just coming in, look at

918
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 16: the shoulder, shoulder, be fine, dealing with whatever we dealing

919
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 16: with and then you know, make sure we focus on

920
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 16: the ankle, but enough so I can go out there

921
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 16: and perform.

922
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 15: But you know, it took a took a different turn

923
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 15: in the process.

924
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 6: But what if they told you about or you have

925
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 6: in recovery, what what's your facing look for the next

926
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 6: couple of months.

927
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's you know, it's gonna be a couple months

928
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 16: and you know, biggest things mobility and just a range

929
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 16: of motion and then you know the strength and stuff

930
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 16: would work out. But yeah, uh, you know, i'm'a be

931
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 16: working with some some great doctors and great staff that's

932
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 16: dealt with this process before, with a lot of professional

933
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 16: baseball guys, and you know, make sure that you know

934
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 16: I come back, you know, even better than before.

935
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 10: Are you any uh quarterbacks who have gone through this

936
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 10: injury and come back?

937
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 15: Not right now, not not this particularly injury. I I

938
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 15: have no idea. Maybe there's someone, but I'm not sure.

939
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 19: You showing how frustrating means that it seems like every

940
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 19: time you seem to be turning in the corner of

941
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 19: the Tennessee game, the Baltimore game, you started kind of

942
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 19: run into one of these road blocks.

943
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: How how frustrated it is?

944
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 15: That is that fact?

945
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 16: You know, it's very frustrating, but hey, it's you know,

946
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 16: it's it's part of life. And uh, you know what

947
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 16: I've been able to to deal with, you know, my

948
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 16: twenty eight years of of my life. You know, it's

949
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 16: it's just another stone that's that's in the way. And

950
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 16: you know I have faith in in myself and my

951
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 16: Lord that you know I'm overcoming. So you know, i'm'a

952
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 16: be i'm'a be sh i'm'a be straight, and i'm'a get

953
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 16: through it for sure.

954
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 10: Just the way you're talking to me, it sounds like

955
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 10: you're surprised at is any read Do you accept that

956
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 10: it is?

957
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: Were you in disbelieve when they told you and.

958
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 15: And even now I guess, yeah, I'm I'm still in disbelieve.

959
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 16: I'm still I said, just trying to process all the

960
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 16: information that I've I've been getting since last night. It's tough,

961
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 16: you know, I've you know, I felt like we were

962
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 16: turning the corner to really make a run. And you know,

963
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 16: I we I still believe we still will, you know,

964
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 16: with the guys in this locker room. You know, I

965
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 16: just wanted to be physically a part of it, uh,

966
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 16: on the field with those guys. And you know, six

967
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 16: weeks I was down and try to come back and

968
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 16: you then two weeks later and you know, back out

969
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 16: of it again. So yeah, it's it's it's it's tough

970
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 16: to try to you know, wrap everything around my head

971
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 16: right now.

972
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 19: Did you want to interest that that you tried really hard,

973
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 19: you know, after being diagnosed with the shoulder, that I

974
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 19: tried hard to kind of you know, wanting to play

975
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 19: through the rest of the season.

976
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 6: How hard did you push for the How disappointing was that.

977
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 15: When you found out you Finnah call uh.

978
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 16: I mean I pushed very hard for it, to the

979
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 16: point where it's, you know, all the experts and and

980
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 16: doctors was the ones that told me that it was

981
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 16: it was now chance.

982
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 15: So uh, you know, I push as.

983
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 16: Far as I probably possibly could to you know, get

984
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 16: back out there and just try to play and and

985
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 16: try to push it towards after the season. But you know,

986
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 16: I think the best situation for I guess longevity in

987
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 16: my career is is to be able to get a

988
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 16: media surgery. And that's what all the experts said. So

989
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 16: you know, I gotta I gotta follow their their footsteps

990
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 16: and and go for that.

991
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 17: So how how important is it going to be for you?

992
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 15: How do you get through it?

993
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 17: When you have process to be back here with your

994
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 17: teammates and around the team that you kind of get

995
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 17: yourself through it as well.

996
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's gonna be very important, uh to get back

997
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 16: around here and be around the guys. But you know,

998
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 16: I've already had a lot of guys told me, uh,

999
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 16: you know, wherever I'm rehabbing and training at, they'll they're

1000
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 16: gonna come out there and spend some time with me.

1001
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 15: So which is pretty dope. So you know, we we're

1002
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 15: gonna have that bond. You know, the connection's gonna always

1003
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 15: be there.

1004
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 16: You know, my phone is gonna always be on live

1005
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 16: for those guys and wow, uh they know they can

1006
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 16: call me or you know, pull up on me anytime,

1007
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 16: you know, they get free.

1008
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 6: Six and three? What do you think is best suitor

1009
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 6: to take your place? You said?

1010
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 11: Do what?

1011
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 12: The team is six and three right in at Who

1012
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 12: who do you think is the best uh candidate to replace?

1013
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 7: You know?

1014
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 15: Who else in that man up?

1015
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 16: You know, I mean anybody that's gonna be able to

1016
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 16: you know, step in and and perform. So you know, uh,

1017
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 16: Kevin and those guys gonna make sure we're ready to go,

1018
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 16: and uh, they gonna be ready to perform.

1019
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 15: And and take this team as far as we need

1020
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 15: to go.

1021
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 6: But how confident are you that you'll be able to

1022
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 6: come back and be the player?

1023
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 5: And what do you think you should be?

1024
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 15: Well, I'm very confident, you know, I'm very confident.

1025
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 16: I'm very confident in the doctors that it's gonna be

1026
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 16: doing the surgery and the rehab, and I'm very confident

1027
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 16: in my rehabing, my my mindset and and uh my

1028
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 16: determination to get back.

1029
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 15: You know strong.

1030
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 13: Do you have any idea when you're gonna be able

1031
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 13: to throw football again? I?

1032
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 16: I mean, I'm it depends on you know everything, maybe

1033
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 16: overfly in two months three months, So it's.

1034
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 6: More of a fun sorry than it to controlf.

1035
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 15: I just no, the pain of your feeling is it.

1036
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 19: Is it more frustration like internally because you're not allowed

1037
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 19: to play, or are you physically feeling.

1038
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 6: Like you're in an idea?

1039
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 15: If I had to throw football right now, it probably could.

1040
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 15: I mean it's both. I mean it it's very painful.

1041
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 15: The whole second half is painful.

1042
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 16: To throw football. You know, it's a you know, a

1043
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 16: bone that's that's fracturing on my shoulders. So no, no

1044
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 16: type of you know, medicine or anything it's gonna stop

1045
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 16: the pain from that. But uh, it's just frustrating all

1046
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 16: just all around, just not being able to play and

1047
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 16: just the injuries. But you know, I can't control certain injuries,

1048
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 16: and you know from what the experts told me that

1049
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 16: certain injury and then the hind good spring is of

1050
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 16: things that you know happens, but everybody in the game.

1051
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 6: So what are you spola take last one here?

1052
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 8: What do you think that you showed kind of little

1053
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 8: on Sunday against the main both coming out during fourteenth

1054
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 8: or fourteen and un full Controler, White angle Spring, pulling

1055
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 8: out the biggest game of the season in a place

1056
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 8: where you, guys, so you never win.

1057
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 16: I just wanna win, and that's that's that's all I

1058
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 16: was focused on, was just winning. I mean, I didn't

1059
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 16: care how we did it, whatever we need to do

1060
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 16: to to turn that game around to and and to

1061
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 16: win and leave everything out there on the field.

1062
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 15: And that's that's what I was focused on.

1063
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 8: Do you are you comforted at all and knowledge that

1064
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 8: you kind of went out like that on such a.

1065
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: Joyous moment for your teammates.

1066
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 8: And for fans.

1067
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 15: I mean, yeah, it was, it was It was good.

1068
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 6: It was cool.

1069
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 15: But the ultimate goal is is that Super Bowl.

1070
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 16: So I won't have the opportunity, but you know, my

1071
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 16: teammates got the opportunity, and I pray and and and

1072
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 16: know that they do whatever they can to get that

1073
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 16: that ultimate goal. And you know, i'm'a be right there

1074
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 16: right there supporting 'em and and boosting them up, HIPing

1075
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 16: them up, and so yeah, you know, the way was awesome,

1076
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 16: but you know, the Oltsman goal was to try to

1077
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 16: go all the way.

1078
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: All right, there's your quarterback to Shaan Watson at the

1079
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: podium earlier Today, we'll get the reaction of Joe Thomas

1080
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: coming up next to listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

1081
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: to you by bally Bet sports betting partner your Cleveland

1082
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: Browns and a Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1083
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet Now

1084
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1085
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: Over the last nine years, family owned and operated Runky

1086
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: Waste Recycling grown to become one of the largest wasting

1087
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: recycling companies in the United States, proud to be the

1088
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: recycler of choice for the city of Cleveland. Is at

1089
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Runky dot com to learn more. Now, we had it

1090
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: on the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to you by Twisted

1091
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: Tea Hard Iced Tea. The Hoff joins us, Oh boy,

1092
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: this is not the first Friday program we thought we'd

1093
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: be doing, Joe. This thing came out of nowhere this morning,

1094
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: devastating to Brown's nation. Where were you when you heard

1095
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 2: and what was your initial reaction? Do you have any

1096
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: clue that this was how this was going to go today?

1097
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 11: No clue?

1098
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 13: Definite thief of joy was the news from today? Actually,

1099
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 13: he and I were texting this morning. I was sitting

1100
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 13: in a tree stand in Wisconsin and watching the lovely

1101
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 13: deer species roll by my stand, and the hit me

1102
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 13: with this news that I was not prepared for. Almost

1103
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 13: fell out of my stand. And at first when he

1104
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 13: said Watson's out for the year, I thought it was

1105
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 13: the ankle. I thought maybe he broke something in his ankle,

1106
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 13: because I had no idea that he had a shoulder injury.

1107
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 13: I mean, how could you imagine the guy was perfect

1108
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 13: in the second half playing through a shoulder injury.

1109
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, perfect, he was perfect. He was, and right

1110
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 14: out of nowhere, certainly very surprising that this was the thing.

1111
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 14: As I said, you know, nobody went to bed last

1112
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 14: night other than maybe the handful of people who knew

1113
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 14: yesterday who got the news. I think this was even

1114
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 14: possible that he wasn't not only not going to play

1115
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 14: against the Steelers, but that he would not play again

1116
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 14: this season for the Cleveland Browns. It's it's it is

1117
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 14: a stunning thing. And I know you're here to bring

1118
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 14: us pure joy.

1119
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: So before we do that, how have you ever been

1120
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: a part of anything like this at any level?

1121
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 6: Joe?

1122
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: I mean, high school, college, anything where. I mean, like,

1123
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: it's different at quarterback, right, I Mean, we all love

1124
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, but but that's different than when you're talking

1125
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: about your franchise quarterback.

1126
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: Have you ever been a part of anything.

1127
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 13: Like this, boy, I mean, I've lost quarterbacks before, but

1128
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 13: I don't think anybody that's meant so much to the

1129
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 13: potential outcome of a fantastic season. I think obviously the

1130
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 13: momentum that we built in the last few games, but

1131
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 13: especially to come back against Baltimore winning that game. They're

1132
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 13: the hottest team in the NFL going to the game,

1133
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 13: and I mean, it's not over. So I don't want

1134
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 13: to say, like in my mind it's over, but obviously

1135
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 13: this is a huge setback and it's devastating. You know,

1136
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 13: Zee and I were talking about there's really no other

1137
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 13: way to put it. Because you saw Deshaun Watson back.

1138
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 13: You saw the version that we'd all hoped he would

1139
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 13: be when we signed him, right when he that was

1140
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 13: the Shawn that we saw in Houston, and it was

1141
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 13: pretty easy to say Deshaun Watson Houston version right now,

1142
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 13: great running game, number one defense in the NFL. That's

1143
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 13: a formula for a lot of success without him.

1144
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 6: It's tough.

1145
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 13: I mean, I remember Brady Quinn was our starter and

1146
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 13: maybe two thousand and eight we weren't having a great season,

1147
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 13: but he had a Liz Frank injury on a scramble,

1148
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 13: just a very innocuous scramble down the sideline against the Chiefs,

1149
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 13: and he kind of came up just hobbling a little bit,

1150
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 13: but he didn't even get hit. And I think the

1151
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 13: comparison maybe is that okay, to a quarterback he's out

1152
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 13: for the year, in this situation where you didn't even

1153
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 13: realize he got hurt, and so it's kind of stunning

1154
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 13: and shocking and you don't really even know how to

1155
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 13: handle the news at first. But obviously this is a

1156
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 13: much different situation because of the stakes and because of

1157
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 13: the direction this team is headed.

1158
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, and so now you have to shift gears. And

1159
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 14: we heard today that Dorian Thompson Robinson will start, and

1160
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 14: obviously we know it is a very different thing than

1161
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 14: finding out you're starting an hour and a half before kickoff,

1162
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 14: as opposed to finding out that you're starting and getting

1163
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 14: to have a game plan tailored to you and the

1164
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 14: things that you're comfortable with all week long, and so

1165
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 14: Dorian Thompson Robinson, and I think in many ways is

1166
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 14: starting to give you the best chance to win this game,

1167
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 14: but also with the hope that with that great defense,

1168
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 14: with that great running game, that we can do enough

1169
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 14: to still make the playoffs, and so that he would

1170
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 14: have at that point eight games of experience and give

1171
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 14: you a puncher's chance in the postseason if the Browns

1172
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 14: can get there. What did you think of the decision

1173
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 14: to go with DTR and what would you expect this

1174
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 14: offense to look like with him at quarterback?

1175
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 13: I like the decision. His first start, he really didn't

1176
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 13: get a fair chance. And if you think back to

1177
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 13: how he played in the preseason, he was pretty electric.

1178
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 13: He was awesome. I mean, he's got a lot of

1179
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 13: experience playing in college. The times that we saw him

1180
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 13: in the preseason, he was great. He had ice water

1181
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 13: in his veins in that Hall of Fame game, driving

1182
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 13: down the field, game winning touchdown. He's very accurate, very smart,

1183
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 13: good athlete like you can do a lot of things

1184
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 13: with that. Obviously, I think the moment seemed a little

1185
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 13: bit too big for him the first start that he had,

1186
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 13: so it was good to maybe get him a chance

1187
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 13: to step away, reflect, review, have an opportunity to kind

1188
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 13: of bring his emotions in check, go back to the

1189
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 13: routine of a week in the NFL, and then give

1190
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 13: him another shot like this, I think he's got a

1191
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 13: much better chance for great success, especially knowing that it

1192
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 13: is going to be his job the rest of the way,

1193
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 13: and then he's had a chance to kind of work

1194
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 13: through some of those bumps and bruises and hopefully learned

1195
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 13: a lot from it. So I think the offense is

1196
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 13: probably going to look similar to what we saw with

1197
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 13: DeShawn because their skill sets are similar. However, I do

1198
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 13: think that when Kevin Savanski and I think Paul Deepitest

1199
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 13: in the analytics side, will probably have a big saying, Okay,

1200
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 13: like now, as you're breaking down the probabilities of success, right,

1201
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 13: every play in your playbook is not going to have

1202
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 13: the same probability of success with TTR. So what you're

1203
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 13: going to try to do is manufacture some plays that

1204
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 13: will give you some home run ability to take advantage

1205
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 13: of very very specific venutia that you're going to be

1206
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 13: dealing with from the defense in that game plan that week,

1207
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 13: so that you can find a way to manufacture three

1208
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 13: to five big plays that don't rely on your quarterback

1209
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 13: doing something that's superhuman or that maybe only that quarterback

1210
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 13: and that Deshaun Watson can do. So specifically, you're talking about,

1211
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 13: all right, how do we dial up some shot plays

1212
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 13: probably out of play action, make them look a little

1213
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 13: bit like some of the stuff that we've done before.

1214
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 13: Make it maybe one mates. But also I think this

1215
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 13: is where Kevin Stefanski's genius can kind of play in.

1216
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 13: Is you've got personnel groupings that you can get predictability

1217
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 13: from the defense, and then you can find little matchups

1218
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 13: where Okay, it's almost like if you're looking at maybe

1219
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 13: this is too much in the weeds, but like you're

1220
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 13: looking at a business or a stock and you're seeing

1221
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 13: like how it's moving, and all of a sudden, there's

1222
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 13: like little arbitrages in between, like inefficiencies, and you're like, okay, boom,

1223
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 13: we can take advantage of that, all right, Amari Cooper.

1224
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 13: If we line him up in the backfield out of

1225
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 13: this personnel grouping and then we motion him out, he's

1226
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 13: gonna have a linebackerround him. We're only going to get

1227
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 13: one shot at it. But now we can run a

1228
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 13: wheel rout, or we can run some different digs in

1229
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 13: the middle of the field, or we can get some

1230
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 13: home run shots in that regard where it's easy, we

1231
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 13: can tell dtr it's throw it to a Maori or

1232
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 13: take off and run, and so kind of keeping it

1233
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 13: simple but giving him an opportunity to hit some of

1234
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 13: those home run shots I think is going to be

1235
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 13: a little bit more part of the game plan now,

1236
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 13: and then hoping that he can be really efficient and

1237
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 13: have a high completion percentage on a lot of the

1238
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 13: short passes because I think really that's kind of his

1239
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 13: bread and butter going forward.

1240
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with you know the basically our

1241
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: second half game plan against Baltimore. Well, that's where the

1242
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: depth of target was half or more than half than

1243
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: what it was in the first half. And also that

1244
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: RPO game Hoff because he lived in that at UCLA.

1245
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: He's a seventy percent passer. He rushed for six hundred

1246
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: and fifty yards twelve touchdowns last year at UCLA. Like,

1247
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: isn't this go ahead to your point? Z? But as

1248
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: he was talking, as Joe was talking, I'm thinking to myself,

1249
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: that's second half Baltimore.

1250
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 14: Well, that's what I was going to say, is not

1251
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 14: only in the second half of that game did we

1252
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 14: kind of live exclusively in the shotgun, which probably is

1253
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 14: more comfortable for DTR. But we got our shotgun running

1254
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 14: game going. We ahged over six yards of carry, which

1255
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 14: was something that we you and I had talked about,

1256
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 14: you know, getting that yesterday we talked about getting that

1257
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 14: shotgun game going. Do you think we're going to be

1258
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 14: with DTR much more of a shotgun team, And that

1259
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 14: really is what kind of got us going there in

1260
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 14: that second half, honestly, you know, and I think for

1261
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 14: young players at times, I think it's tougher for them

1262
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 14: when they have to turn their back to the defense

1263
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 14: as opposed to being the shotgun, being able to see

1264
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 14: and having clear, quick defined reads form. You got to

1265
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,479
Speaker 14: almost like brock Party has been great, but what Kyle

1266
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 14: did was make everything such a one read situation for

1267
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 14: him until he got to the point where he could

1268
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 14: kind of go through his progressions. And I feel like

1269
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 14: that's kind of what we have to do, and that's

1270
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 14: probably easier for him in that gun.

1271
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, You're exactly right, it's going to be shotgun runs

1272
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 13: and it's going to be a lot more of the

1273
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 13: RPO stuff. Obviously, you didn't want to expose to Sean

1274
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 13: to a ton of hits with the RPO stuff because

1275
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 13: a lot of times when you got a quarterback who's

1276
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 13: maybe not a giant human being but still is really

1277
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 13: savvy and fleet footed running the football, teams on defense

1278
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 13: will say, hey, force him to pull it. We want

1279
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 13: him to run around because we're going to get our

1280
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 13: shots on him. In the long run, we're going to

1281
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 13: win that battle for DTR. I think to keep his

1282
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 13: completion percentage high, which I think that's the key. Like

1283
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 13: I said, shots on the field, high completion percentage, easy reads,

1284
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 13: that's our PO stuff, and that's what he's comfortable with.

1285
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 13: Knowing that we've really increased our gun runs success right recently,

1286
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 13: I think that can really kind of lean into the

1287
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 13: things that he does well. And thinking specifically about OURRVO

1288
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 13: is like he's looking at one guy. Okay, I'm either

1289
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 13: looking at the linebacker or I'm looking at the defense.

1290
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 13: Then and I know, pull it, run it, or hand

1291
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 13: it off, or I can throw it to an easy

1292
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 13: pass in the middle of the field and then let

1293
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 13: my playmakers go. And so I think, knowing that we've

1294
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 13: got Elijah Moore, we got a Mari Cooper, We've got

1295
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 13: David and Joekup. We've got guys that you can get

1296
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 13: them short passes and then they can make stuff happen

1297
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 13: after the play after they catch it. I think that

1298
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 13: can be a huge advantage.

1299
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: For him and the way that and considering for this weekend,

1300
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Pittsburgh is very muted offensively. The way they

1301
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: beat us last time was game wrecking play by TJ. Watt,

1302
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: And so as long as you can prevent those type

1303
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: of which is easier said than done. But as long

1304
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: as you do that, I mean, our team's better than

1305
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: their team, huff. So it's it's kind of just stay

1306
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: within the navigational beacons. If you're a boater out there.

1307
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: That's kind of the objective for DTR this week, and

1308
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: then maybe it can build from that point going forward.

1309
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 14: Right.

1310
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 13: Shout out to Jimmy Buffett RP. Great reference there, brings

1311
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 13: me back to drinking margaritas on the beach in Jamaica.

1312
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 13: But I think you're exactly right like this team and

1313
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 13: we saw it right. Deshaun did not really play all

1314
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 13: that well most of the season, right, he played amazing

1315
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 13: last week. We loved it, but you were winning playing

1316
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 13: games because of your defense and your run game, and

1317
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 13: so I think the first priority is, all right, who

1318
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 13: are the teams that were just better than and we're

1319
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 13: just better than the Steelers. Obviously it didn't show in

1320
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 13: the first game, but if you don't turn the football over,

1321
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 13: you win that game easily. And so I think the

1322
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 13: priority in the game plan and with DTR is just saying, hey,

1323
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 13: it's a one read on this play. If it's not there,

1324
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 13: throw away or take off like live to play another play.

1325
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 13: We don't need any superhuman efforts because if we just

1326
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 13: do the basic, the ordinary, like everybody else on this team,

1327
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 13: is good enough where we're going to get to win here.

1328
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 13: Where you're going to need the growth, you're going to

1329
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 13: need to expand and con on your quarterback a little

1330
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 13: bit more is potentially down the line when you're playing

1331
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 13: a little bit more talented teams with more high flying offense,

1332
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 13: where you're gonna have to keep up with them a

1333
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 13: little bit more. And then maybe it chips. But you

1334
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 13: hope that a guy like DTR, who you saw him

1335
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 13: do it in the preseason, as he grows and becomes

1336
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 13: more comfortable in the starting role and hopefully gets some

1337
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 13: wins unders belt, Like imagine you want to win against

1338
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 13: the Steelers in the environment that we're going to have

1339
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 13: on Sunday would do for his confidence and they would

1340
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 13: do for the confidence of the team around him. Right,

1341
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 13: So as big as this game was with de Shaun,

1342
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 13: it might even be bigger now that the DTR is there,

1343
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 13: because we're talking about the psyche and the confidence of

1344
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 13: a young man who now is being asked to shepherd

1345
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 13: this team potentially through a playoff run. So you thought

1346
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 13: the game was big before today, just got a little

1347
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 13: bit bigger.

1348
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,479
Speaker 14: It didn't. That's what we were talking about. Like, okay,

1349
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 14: and I guess I'm violating my own twenty four hour

1350
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 14: role because now.

1351
01:02:59,360 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 5: You've done it.

1352
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 14: If you've gotten me a better thank you?

1353
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 7: Is it you?

1354
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 14: For this team to still have a chance to accomplish something,

1355
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 14: you have got to get DTR playing well, and you

1356
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 14: got to get his confidence up, and you got to

1357
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 14: get everybody else's confidence. Because the thing that was so

1358
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 14: I call it galvanizing, was that coming out of that

1359
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 14: Baltimore game, there was full belief in this football team

1360
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 14: and full belief in Deshaun Watson and now all of

1361
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 14: a sudden, you know that's gone, and so you have

1362
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 14: got to get with DTR to your point. You know,

1363
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 14: positivity that can get that kind of confidence back in

1364
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 14: their quarterback to be able to make plays to help

1365
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 14: this team win. And really, you know, the confidence and

1366
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 14: the reason that I think DTR is going is number one.

1367
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 14: You don't know what his ceiling truly can be, but

1368
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 14: that you're hoping he can be a better steward of

1369
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 14: the ball. And I know he had three picks in

1370
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 14: the game against Baltimore. I honestly I throw that that

1371
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 14: was an impossible situation that he was put into. So

1372
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 14: I am hoping that obviously in a more normal style situation,

1373
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 14: he's gonna be perfect. No, he's a rookie, he's making

1374
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 14: his second career start. But I do think that you

1375
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 14: have a very important opportunity here to get some confidence

1376
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 14: with him, for him and in him by going out

1377
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 14: and beating the Steelers and what is still a massive

1378
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 14: game for the Cleveland Browns.

1379
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 13: He still got everything in front of you. I know

1380
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 13: this changes are perspective, but looking down the stretch, the

1381
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 13: games that we're able to win with our great quarterback

1382
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 13: play leading up to this point should build a lot

1383
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 13: of confidence knowing that if we just get average play

1384
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 13: from the quarterback doesn't turn the ball over, like, we're

1385
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 13: gonna win a lot of games and we're going to

1386
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 13: be sitting really, really good at the end of the season.

1387
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 13: Now beating the better teams, that's when you're gonna need

1388
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 13: a little bit more from him. But I think that's

1389
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 13: why this is so important right now to build that

1390
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 13: confidence because I think everybody in that building and everybody

1391
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 13: that's seen him practice, saw him in the preseason, they

1392
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 13: feel like he's got what it takes to make that growth,

1393
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 13: and it's just a matter of calming down, building confidence

1394
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 13: in himself, and then letting everybody in that locker room

1395
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 13: see that in him and believing in him. Because to

1396
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 13: your point, Ze, that was perfect. I loved everything he

1397
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 13: said about it. You talked, you told me after the game,

1398
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 13: like the scene in the locker room, the scene on

1399
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 13: the bus was like everybody in the team believed that

1400
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 13: Deshaun was back and this is the guy that could

1401
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 13: lead us all the way. And obviously it's a setback.

1402
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 13: It's mentally as hard as it is going to be

1403
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 13: physically going out there, but getting that win, building that confidence,

1404
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 13: can build that belief in that locker room and dtr

1405
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 13: that this could be magical even though we lost our starter,

1406
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 13: because this guy's got that in factor.

1407
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: One of the many things you have that we don't

1408
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: is the fact that you played, and so you know

1409
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 2: what it's like in that room today. As that news

1410
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: starts to spread, take us through kind of what that's

1411
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: like as a player. And then when when you hear

1412
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: that notion and we all know NFL like the injuries happened,

1413
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: next man up all of those things. This feels from

1414
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: the outside looking in that seems impossible from a player perspective,

1415
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: how do you get to that spot?

1416
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 13: I had this conversation with zas that next thing from

1417
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 13: my tree stand this morning and trying to keep him

1418
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 13: from drive it off the road. I said, see, I

1419
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 13: know as a fan, I feel the same way myself.

1420
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 13: And this is why I love the game so much,

1421
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 13: and I probably love it now more than even when

1422
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 13: I played. Is because as fans, we're allowed to be

1423
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 13: on that emotional roller coaster within the game, within the season,

1424
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 13: within the week, Like we just get so emotionally attached

1425
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 13: and invested in every little thing that happens, and we

1426
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 13: are constantly playing the schedule game, which is everybody's favorite game.

1427
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 13: When the schedule comes out, it's like, we can beat

1428
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 13: this game. This will be tough, you know, we might

1429
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 13: lose that one, like that's whatever he's doing right now

1430
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 13: looking down the stretch. But as players, you're just programmed differently.

1431
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 13: It's like, I got a job to do, no matter

1432
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 13: what happens, I need to focus on me because the

1433
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 13: way I get the most out of myself is focusing

1434
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 13: on my job. And obviously it's not like you're gonna

1435
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 13: just ignore the fact that Deshaun got hurt and he's

1436
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 13: gone for the season. We we're humans too, but as players,

1437
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 13: as NFL players, you're conditioned to deal with the injury

1438
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 13: and the punches and the roller coaster of a season

1439
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 13: with very big steadiness that fans are not prepared for.

1440
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 13: And it's interesting I kind of reflect back on first

1441
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 13: time ownership, you know, when the has them's first showed

1442
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 13: up and people throughout the NFL that buy teams that

1443
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 13: are huge sports fans, but they've never been in the

1444
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 13: building being able to make those decisions. Because as fans,

1445
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 13: it's like when somebody has a bad game, it's like,

1446
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 13: get rid of them. We need somebody else, you know.

1447
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 13: And when they have a good game, it's like he's

1448
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 13: the greatest thing ever. But once you're in the building

1449
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 13: and you are involved in either playing or making those decisions,

1450
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 13: you realize that the best approach long term is that steady,

1451
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 13: even hand, and that's what you have to have, and

1452
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 13: you kind of have to focus on your controllables. Otherwise

1453
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 13: it is tough because you do get punched. Even in

1454
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 13: a great season, you have a lot of bad things

1455
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 13: that happen, and you got to be able to handle

1456
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 13: it and still go out and do your job.

1457
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 3: Off any luck. This morning in that tree stand.

1458
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 13: Well it was funny. So me and Ze did our

1459
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 13: exes and Joe's show, and I actually had a buck

1460
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 13: that was standing and ended up laying down right underneath me.

1461
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 13: He wasn't a shooter, but still I don't like to

1462
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 13: leave my stand when he's underneath me. But my alarm

1463
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 13: is going off that I have to leave do the show,

1464
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 13: and I'm going, could you leave, get up and move,

1465
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 13: I really don't want to spook you. And the look

1466
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 13: at that little buck's face that I got up and

1467
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 13: started walking down my tree was like, what the hell

1468
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 13: is coming out of the sky right now? It was

1469
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 13: like no idea, kind of probably the same feeling that

1470
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 13: we had this morning was shocked and awe when the

1471
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 13: news about the Shawn came down Like that thing was

1472
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 13: shocked and odd at this giant human being climbing out

1473
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 13: of a tree thirty feet above him in the middle

1474
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 13: of the day.

1475
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: He had no idea how close to the sun he flew,

1476
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: did he? And a lot different for that guy him.

1477
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 14: That's as outcome. That's the best outcome.

1478
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 3: Boy, that was close.

1479
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 14: That was close.

1480
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: If you're that little buck in Wisconsin today, thanks for

1481
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: taking the time today, brother.

1482
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 13: Yes, my pleasure. Guys, thanks for having me on.

1483
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 6: All right.

1484
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 2: That's the Hoff joining us on the Twisted Tea Hotline,

1485
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: brought to a Twisty Hard iced Tea, the official sponsor

1486
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: for your Cleveland Browns.

1487
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 3: Keep it Twisted Cleveland.

1488
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 2: Hey Browns fans, you get enter for ants when season

1489
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: tickets for the twenty twenty four season from Sugardale and

1490
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: your local Meyer at the Browns dot Com slash contest

1491
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: to enter now, and don't forget to grab Sugardelle bacon

1492
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: at your next trip to Meyer Rodney McLoud coming up

1493
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 2: next room Ford as well. You're listening to Cleveland Browns

1494
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1495
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley bed Now

1496
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1497
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: For team full of injury lawyers dedicated every client every

1498
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: day called one in under at elk Ohio Elkin Elxx,

1499
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. Rodney mclown Junior was

1500
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: at his podium earlier with the locker rather earlier today

1501
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: to discuss the news and his experience is very similar

1502
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia.

1503
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 6: Let's have a listen. Yeah, of course it's a shot,

1504
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 6: you know that that would be alive. You said, you know,

1505
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,480
Speaker 6: you weren't shocked.

1506
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 20: Got saying what type of leader, what type of player

1507
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 20: that we've lost? Uh, you know you saw that, you

1508
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 20: winns that on Sunday somebody who you know started out

1509
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 20: the game with a pig six but rally, you know,

1510
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 20: are from start to finish and put together an incredible

1511
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 20: second half and he shows he's a warrior, you know,

1512
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 20: for what he had to endure ankle, the shoulder and

1513
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 20: with the.

1514
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 6: News today, so it's a shock, but you know, what

1515
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 6: today is is a.

1516
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 20: Workday and what doesn't change is a mission to hand

1517
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 20: and us to go one and oh, we understand who's

1518
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 20: coming in town and they don't care.

1519
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 6: You know, who's heard on our side.

1520
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 20: So we're going to bring our best and I'm sure

1521
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 20: we're gonna we're gonna get their best, right.

1522
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 10: This defense, obviously, you've been through a lot the season already,

1523
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 10: and you always seem to find a way to bounce back.

1524
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 10: You don't seem to let things bother you externally, Like,

1525
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 10: how equipped do you think that your side of the

1526
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 10: ball is to to kind of contend with something like this?

1527
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: So so big on offense, Yeah, I think.

1528
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 20: As a defense, you know, we've we've definitely been tested

1529
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 20: this year. But I think as a you know, we've

1530
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 20: been battle tested. Think about you know, we lost the

1531
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 20: first time we played it was Nick Chubb and people

1532
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 20: outside were like, you know, what's the run game going

1533
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 20: to look like? And there you go, you know, guys

1534
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 20: like Jerome Kareem Hunt uh here you know, just running

1535
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 20: back by committee steps up and they're playing big and

1536
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 20: that's the expectations that we have. This next man up

1537
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 20: mentality you know, the standard stays the same regardless of

1538
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 20: you know who blinds up on that field. And so,

1539
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 20: uh that is that is the message. And I think

1540
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 20: we're prepared for this moment as a team and as

1541
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 20: a defense. So how do you get over that shock?

1542
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 20: You know, the initial shock? How do you get is

1543
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 20: your paste? I think you just understand what's important and

1544
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 20: you know you can't necessarily dwell or change what's happened.

1545
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 20: All we can do is focus on, you know, the outcome, right,

1546
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 20: and how we affect the outcome is we show up

1547
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 20: eaching every day ready to work. And so Wednesday is

1548
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 20: a workday for wors If God has been a team

1549
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 20: to have been focused in meetings, had a great walkthrough,

1550
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 20: and then we want to see a transition over into practice.

1551
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 6: What was it about that?

1552
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 5: What was it about that Philly team?

1553
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 6: But allowed you guys to.

1554
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 20: Overcome faith start faith and belief, you know, and our mindset,

1555
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 20: attitude never shifted, our goals never shifted.

1556
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 6: And so that's what is.

1557
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 20: Going to be the test for this team is our

1558
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 20: mindset and our attitude you know, each and every day.

1559
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 20: But in building that confidence in one another and the

1560
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 20: guys who you know now are going to step in

1561
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 20: and be asked.

1562
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 18: To field you know, you shoot, I know you already

1563
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 18: have a big leadership role on this, but do you

1564
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 18: feel like, kind of because you've been through this before,

1565
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 18: like your voice is even more important.

1566
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 6: I think you know my voice can can help because

1567
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 6: I've experienced it.

1568
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 20: But at the end of the day, Uh, you know,

1569
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 20: I think we we have a lot of leaders and

1570
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 20: so it's not gonna be up to one.

1571
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 6: It's gonna be up to to.

1572
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 20: Many who where to at to be able to you know,

1573
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 20: make sure everybody's focused.

1574
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 6: And the modset says the same.

1575
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 10: Do you think your guys as a defense maybe thrive

1576
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 10: on when you're being counted out as a team? Does

1577
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 10: that make sense?

1578
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 20: I think as a whole, you know, nobody expected us

1579
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 20: to be here in this position that we're in. I

1580
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 20: believe and you know, I think you know, we have

1581
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 20: to remain hungry, remain with a chip on our shoulder

1582
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 20: each and every week.

1583
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 6: You know, you got to prove yourself, improve that you

1584
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 6: know who you are.

1585
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 20: And I think you know, last week was a great

1586
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 20: demonstration of the team that we can be and we

1587
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 20: want to be.

1588
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be important to continue on with that.

1589
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 6: Do you tell each other that the goals don't change?

1590
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 11: Oh?

1591
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that was that was Kevin's message early on.

1592
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 20: You just put want to know what you know after

1593
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 20: the devastating news, You want to know because it doesn't change,

1594
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 20: and that's what we're here to do.

1595
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 17: Kashaun mentioned that some of these teams have offered to

1596
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 17: travel to him and work out with him as he rehabs.

1597
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 17: What does that say about the closeness of this team

1598
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 17: because the bonds you guys have been at.

1599
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 6: The creating the season, that says everything. And I think

1600
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 6: that that deep connection and together.

1601
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: That started in Greenbrier, you know, when we had the time.

1602
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 20: To remove ourselves from the outside world and uh just

1603
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 20: come together and bond and uh you've seen that really

1604
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 20: continue to grow throughout the course of the year and

1605
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 20: it and it paid dividend for us last week.

1606
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 6: You know, like there was nobody you know on that

1607
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 6: team who who had any doubt.

1608
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 13: Uh of what we were, you know, going to do

1609
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 13: as that game went on, and.

1610
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 20: God's continued to uplift one and and encourage each other

1611
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 20: because it wasn't perfect.

1612
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 6: Uh, and that's what got us through. And so one

1613
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 6: needs to do the same before.

1614
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 20: Man, he's uh, he's he's been through a lot, but

1615
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 20: we know that he's given himself or given us everything.

1616
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 20: Uh and that's that that was demonstrated last week, and

1617
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 20: we want to support him during this time.

1618
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 18: Ronnie, how do you guys make sure that, yeah, you

1619
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 18: don't you don't try and do too much on your

1620
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 18: side before him, you know what I'm saying, like understanding that, Hey.

1621
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 9: You you guys have been good already going it might

1622
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 9: have to be even better, uh.

1623
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 6: In this situation. So how do you guys not do Yeah?

1624
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 6: I think you just stick to who we are.

1625
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 7: Just be us.

1626
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 15: Uh.

1627
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 6: That's allowed us to uh be top defense in the

1628
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 6: in the league, you know, and you just take it

1629
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 6: one game at a time.

1630
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,480
Speaker 20: If we do our job preventing points and creating turnovers,

1631
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 20: giving the offense more opportunities, that's going to put us

1632
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 20: in a good position to win.

1633
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, that's all. That's

1634
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 6: how ultimate go running.

1635
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 18: If you I don't know what one Thorny Hill's status is,

1636
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 18: do you know what it is as as playing more

1637
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 18: in this game?

1638
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know at this moment.

1639
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 20: Of course, you know that's on the coach, you know,

1640
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 20: for the information to to be released, and yeah, we'll

1641
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 20: see how things go as over the course of the week.

1642
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 20: So I mean so obviously you're ready to Yeah, always, always,

1643
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 20: always ready. Uh, you know, that's that's part of my job.

1644
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 20: But at the end of the day, Yeah, we're hoping

1645
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 20: for the best for.

1646
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 5: Want you said, Kevin put the one and up on

1647
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 5: the board.

1648
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 10: How have you seen him navigate this season where it's

1649
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 10: just like one thing after another.

1650
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, he's he's had great poise and calmness, and I

1651
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 20: think that sort of energy and emotion helps the team,

1652
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 20: uh in a major way when you're your leader, is

1653
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 20: it's still calm and confident and our abilities and has

1654
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 20: trust and every individual, then that gives you great confidence

1655
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 20: as a as a team to go out there and perform.

1656
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 18: What was that Super Bowl year Doug Peterson's first year,

1657
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 18: second second year old? Yeah, so I mean, so he's

1658
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 18: kind of a young leader to get you guys through that,

1659
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 18: yeah situation.

1660
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 3: What was that like, I mean, it was it was great.

1661
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 6: It was the same.

1662
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 16: Uh.

1663
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 20: We really lived on the next man of uh, you

1664
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 20: know mantra that year because of countless guys that we lost,

1665
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 20: uh and we're talking Hall of Famer, but you know

1666
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 20: future Hall of famers off ros Uh.

1667
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: And it was it was hard.

1668
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 6: Who else did you guys lose in that year?

1669
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 20: Jason Peters, Jordan Higgs, Darrence Bros Carson, you know who's

1670
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 20: having an MVP come over year late in the year,

1671
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 20: and it may have been.

1672
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 6: A couple other guys too, just along the way.

1673
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 20: So that was huge blows for us, but other guys

1674
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 20: stepped up and where Hughes Contributors.

1675
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: If your game plan for the season includes buying or

1676
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: selling a home, Howard Hannah has the answer, delivering a

1677
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: winning strategy for breaking down the game of real estate.

1678
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: Is the market leaders in Northeast Ohio or buyers and

1679
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: sellers trust Howard Hannah to be their winning team. Visit

1680
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: Howard Hannah dot com, slash Go Browns Today Coming up

1681
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: next Z one on one with Jerome Ford.

1682
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,520
Speaker 3: You listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1683
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bet Now

1684
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,480
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

1685
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 14: Welcome back to Cleve Browns Daily, brought you by Bally

1686
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 14: Betta sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns here with

1687
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 14: one of the stars of the Browns win over the

1688
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 14: Baltimore Ravens, running back Jerome Ford over one hundred yards

1689
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 14: for the second time your young career. This is a

1690
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 14: game where you played more snaps or higher percentage certainly

1691
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 14: than you have really at any other point this season.

1692
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 14: What did you think about going into this one knowing

1693
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 14: that you were going to play a big role and

1694
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 14: then being able to go out there and execute against

1695
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 14: what had been a very very good defense.

1696
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 7: You know, just going out there doing it and I

1697
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: got a job to do. Didn't really know how many

1698
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 7: snaps it was, you know, honestly, don't pay attention, but

1699
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 7: like as far as how we felt like going out

1700
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 7: there and preparing, you know, same thing every week, continuing

1701
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 7: the routine, locking in and you know, just understanding what

1702
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 7: the game meant for us and the fans.

1703
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 14: At mental loot gut. You had a six and three,

1704
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 14: big win over the Ravens, came back from down fourteen.

1705
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 14: Kind of take me into that fourth quarter. What was

1706
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 14: kind of the mindset of you guys on the sidelines.

1707
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 14: You have a touchdown drive, then when you have the

1708
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 14: punt they score, You get another touchdown drive and you

1709
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 14: were able to get back into this game. And then

1710
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 14: on that final drive, knowing you had to go down there,

1711
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 14: what was kind of the mentality? What was everybody saying

1712
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 14: in the huddle?

1713
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, just you know, you got people in

1714
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 7: this saying make sure you hold on to the ball,

1715
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 7: make plays when the ball coming you. And you know,

1716
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 7: as long as we got downs and there's time one o'clock,

1717
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 7: we always feel like there's a chance to win a game. So,

1718
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 7: you know, knowing that they were down and I mean

1719
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 7: there were downs and that we had time, we're very

1720
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 7: confident that we would go out there and you know,

1721
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 7: execute what we needed.

1722
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 14: There was a four play sequence on that last drive

1723
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 14: after that sack. Second and nineteen, Deshaun hits Amri for

1724
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 14: seventeen yards. Third and two, you run for six kind

1725
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 14: of behind that double team of Ethan and Joel. Then

1726
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 14: Deshaun scrambles for sixteen, and then we got the play

1727
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 14: where you end up picking up twelve yards being caught

1728
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 14: up in a storm of humanity that pushed you down

1729
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 14: the field. The third down run was a big one obviously.

1730
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 14: That one really put the Browns into field goal range

1731
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 14: where you felt like, Okay, now we're gonna win this

1732
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 14: football game. What did you see when you got the

1733
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 14: ball on that one? And then what did you feel

1734
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:46,919
Speaker 14: as that play unfolded?

1735
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 7: We had a puller come around. I think it was Joel.

1736
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 7: He came through, smack the dude. The hole was small,

1737
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 7: and I was just thinking, you know, get skinny. You know,

1738
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 7: worst case scenario, we get a zero yard game, and

1739
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 7: you know, I got skinny through and it was daylight.

1740
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 7: I cut again, and you know, I collided with someone

1741
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 7: and we kind of still made it a little bit

1742
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 7: and then out of nowhere, like you know, I'm I'm

1743
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 7: driving my feet and I feel a push and I

1744
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 7: feel another push and another and it's just stacking on.

1745
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 7: And at the same time, you got the Ravens defenders

1746
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 7: ripping at the ball, and it's like, you know, I'm

1747
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 7: just in the in like you said, this ball of humanity,

1748
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 7: and I'm just thinking like I'm in here now, like

1749
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 7: I'm in I'm just gonna ride it out.

1750
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 5: Make sure I'll hold on to the ball.

1751
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 7: And you know, it helped put us in a better

1752
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 7: field goal range because you know, we feel like Dustin

1753
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 7: can hit it from anywhere.

1754
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 5: So no doubt.

1755
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, that was a big play and an emotional play,

1756
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 14: and I thought a statement play in many ways. We've

1757
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 14: seen what she had done earlier, but just kind of

1758
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 14: to take the physicality to the Baltimore Ravens and that's

1759
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 14: what you did there. Now, you made a very interesting

1760
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 14: point because I was watching this from the booth. I

1761
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 14: was thinking that as well. Once nobody can see anything

1762
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 14: that's going on in there, I can't even imagine what

1763
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 14: kind of things are going on in there to try

1764
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 14: to get that football away from you. What was going

1765
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 14: on in there?

1766
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 7: You got Cayle Hamilton, great place, he and never ripping

1767
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 7: at it. I think you had a queen come on

1768
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 7: and add on. They just ripping at it, and I'll

1769
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 7: get him saying.

1770
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 14: Is get the ball, get the ball, get the ball,

1771
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 14: And it's like.

1772
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 5: In my head, I'm like, y'all not getting this ball.

1773
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 5: I'm holding on for their life.

1774
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 7: You know, it was the most important play of the

1775
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 7: game at the time because it was the next one,

1776
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 7: and you know we were just in there making sure

1777
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 7: that we held onto the ball and we got what

1778
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 7: we could out of it.

1779
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 14: You saw James Hudson was fired up after that play

1780
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 14: where you fired up after that play, because that is

1781
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 14: a huge one, like not only for the yards, but

1782
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 14: to your point, once it was stood up, there were

1783
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 14: guys who were solely concerned with taking the football away

1784
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 14: from you. You would not be denied, You would not

1785
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 14: let them have it.

1786
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 6: Not at all.

1787
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, James was fired up. If you look at the film,

1788
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 7: you can see Coop doing a little fist pump. Everybody

1789
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 7: know Coop don't celebrate it life, So just to see

1790
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 7: that it kind of make you laugh a little bit.

1791
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 6: He had a lodger in there pushing adding on.

1792
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 7: They're pushing the pile.

1793
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's definitely fun to look at and go back.

1794
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 7: And you know, just think like this is what the

1795
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 7: Browns are and this is what we're gonna, you know,

1796
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 7: kind of stand on for the rest of the season.

1797
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 7: The physicality, and we knew we had to be physical

1798
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 7: going into the Radis game against a physical defense and

1799
01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 7: offense like.

1800
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 14: That physical again this week, and now you know more

1801
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 14: than anybody on this team what it means to be

1802
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 14: the next man up. Nick Chubb goes down Week two

1803
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 14: against Pittsburgh, It's now your time and Kareem's there and

1804
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 14: you guys have a committee, But you have had to

1805
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 14: step up and carry this football team, and you have

1806
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 14: in the biggest game of the year over one hundred yards.

1807
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 14: You were a fifth round pick a year ago, didn't

1808
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 14: play much as a rookie in terms of offense, great

1809
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 14: on kick returns. You've been able to step into this role.

1810
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 14: Now you have another fifth round pick dtr who has

1811
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 14: a chance to step in and step up and play

1812
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 14: a massive role. Do you talk to him, Do you say,

1813
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 14: I've done it.

1814
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 7: You can do it definitely, you know, just just let

1815
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 7: him know that we are behind him, and you know,

1816
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 7: no matter what goes on in the game. You know,

1817
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 7: like you've seen us go down fourteen points against the

1818
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 7: Seattle and Baltimore and you've seen us fight back. So

1819
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 7: like you know, anytime that there's gonna be some type

1820
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 7: of problems in the game, you know, as long as

1821
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 7: you know you shake it off next play and you

1822
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 7: move on, like be fine, and like I told you before,

1823
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 7: as long as they're downs and you know tom on

1824
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 7: the clock, we always got a shot to win a game.

1825
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 14: You certainly have had that. And it's been kind of

1826
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 14: the mentality of this team kind of regardless of who's

1827
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 14: played quarterback, because we've seen it in Indianapolis, we've seen

1828
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 14: it obviously last week in Baltimore. Obviously, I'm sure your

1829
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 14: heart goes out to Deshaun like it went out to

1830
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 14: Nick Chubb for because he just showed so much like

1831
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 14: that was kind of felt like the turning point for him.

1832
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 14: Have you got a chance talk to him and kind

1833
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 14: of what was the team's kind of when you guys

1834
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 14: all got together and found out the news, What was

1835
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 14: kind of the reaction, you know.

1836
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 7: Same reaction as you know, like it's like, oh man,

1837
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 7: like dang, like for him, it's sad, and it's like,

1838
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 7: you know, we know he want to compete and play,

1839
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 7: so we know, we know how that feel and it

1840
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 7: just sucks, you know, like we kind of get rolling

1841
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 7: and then you get that news like it hurt a

1842
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 7: lot of us.

1843
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's tough. And when you know that now with

1844
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 14: the hindsight, you know that what he did in that

1845
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 14: second half of that game, he did with a high

1846
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 14: angle spring and a broken shoulder, broken throwing shoulder. Does

1847
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 14: that kind of just even though I'm sure you guys

1848
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 14: all knew of his toughness and believed in him, that

1849
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 14: was that a game though that kind of and you

1850
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 14: know that now gave even more belief than even maybe

1851
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 14: in the moment when when he was able to go

1852
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 14: fourteen to fourteen.

1853
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, we could see the ankle, but I don't think

1854
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 7: none of us knew about the shoulder. Like we could

1855
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 7: see him. We could see him like kind of like

1856
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 7: you know when he went down. You see you can

1857
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 7: see it on TV where he held his ankle and

1858
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 7: you know, just to see him make those throws that

1859
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 7: he made and in that second half would a broken shoulder.

1860
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 7: It's just like, man like, how could you ever question it?

1861
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 5: How could anybody question it?

1862
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 14: It's crazy. This team will have to go on. You

1863
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 14: get a chance now against the Pittsburgh Steelers at home.

1864
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 14: You know this crowd is going to be electric. Six

1865
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 14: and three. There's a possibility, depending on what happens, ter Zay,

1866
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 14: this game will be for first place in the AFC North.

1867
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 14: How do you guys take the emotion of the wind,

1868
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 14: the high, the probably emotion, the low of getting this

1869
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 14: news and channeling all of that into something to be

1870
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 14: able to go out and be productive this Sunday.

1871
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 7: As far as the wind, you know, we shut the

1872
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 7: wind down Monday. That win is no longer like we

1873
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 7: don't even think about it no more. We go on

1874
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 7: to the Pittsburgh Steelers and that's what we focused on now.

1875
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 7: As far as to Shawn, you know, we go out there,

1876
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 7: we're gonna go play for him, just like we played

1877
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 7: for Drum.

1878
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 14: Thank you so much for the time. Congrats on all

1879
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 14: your success and excited to keep you see it, keep

1880
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 14: it going.

1881
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 15: Thank you.

1882
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: Obviously today and Monday, you know, so much of it

1883
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: has been about the victory Monday and then today Deshaun

1884
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 2: and the sure and the injury. Not a lot as

1885
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: time has been spent on what Jerome Ford did in

1886
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 2: that game and how what he has developed.

1887
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Into over the course of the last couple of weeks.

1888
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 3: And he was sensational.

1889
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, Jerome Ford's been great for you. In fact, got

1890
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 14: his first one hundred yard game that night. Nick Chubb

1891
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 14: went down against the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's your leading rusher

1892
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 14: one hundred and twenty four carries, five hundred and thirty

1893
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 14: two yards, two touchdowns, twenty one catches, one hundred and

1894
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 14: forty one and two touchdowns at two one hundred yard games.

1895
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 14: He has been very good and he kind of embodies

1896
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 14: right like what it is to be the one who

1897
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 14: steps up and the one who makes plays in the

1898
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 14: absence of what had been considered to be the greatest

1899
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 14: offensive player on our team. And so that is good

1900
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 14: that he's done it. And that's kind of why I

1901
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 14: asked him, like, hey, have you gotten you know, have

1902
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 14: you talked to DTR? Also a fifth round pick? You know,

1903
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 14: and Jerome Ford did this without playing much as a

1904
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 14: rookie at eight carries for twelve yards as a rookie.

1905
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: So he's also really comfortable running out of the gun,

1906
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: very comfortable did it. Cincinnati would have done it at

1907
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Alabama when he was there, Like he's he's very comfortable

1908
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: running out of the gun and out of out of

1909
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: that type of style.

1910
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: You saw that in the second half.

1911
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: So for sure, I think that him and he and

1912
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: DTR in terms of the way they've been brought up

1913
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: as football players, they mesh very well.

1914
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 14: Yes, they should mess mesh very well. And you this

1915
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 14: offense is going to have to be, you know, very

1916
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 14: a run and then that kind of a quick look

1917
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 14: RPO style, play action game. You'll take some shots down

1918
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 14: the field, but those are that's going to be the

1919
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 14: bread and better of what you do. And I think

1920
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 14: you have to approach this now and Kevin Sefanski does

1921
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 14: this so well on a total week to week basis.

1922
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 14: This week you're going against not a very good offense,

1923
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 14: so it's fine. Every drive just needs to end with

1924
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 14: a kick. And if there are more punts than field

1925
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 14: goals or extra points, that's fine, as long as you're

1926
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 14: not giving them the football. And I think that will

1927
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 14: be the key in this one. I mean, you go

1928
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 14: back in that Monday night game. It's crazy to say,

1929
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 14: but we probably win that give we just kneeled a

1930
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 14: single time. We have the bottom percent quarter, you know,

1931
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 14: negative yards, So we would of course obviously, and you

1932
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 14: could even hear it in his voice and a lot

1933
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 14: of the players, My players are are bummed. They are

1934
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 14: sad they've allowed themselves to do that for a second.

1935
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 14: And then, as rodneam Cloud said, it's a work day

1936
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 14: and now we've got to get back to work. Like

1937
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 14: That's the thing with the NFL, and that's one of

1938
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 14: the hardest things I think there are people who are

1939
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 14: outside to understand, is how much it just life has

1940
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 14: to go on like it it is a machine that

1941
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 14: keeps moving and all of a sudden you're heard and

1942
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 14: you're kind of off to the side and whatnot or

1943
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 14: whatever is going on, and that is a very very

1944
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 14: tough thing I think for players for forever everybody, right,

1945
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 14: Like that's a tough thing to deal with, and just

1946
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 14: this is, this is a tough situation and this team

1947
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 14: needs to.

1948
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 6: Be ready to go.

1949
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 14: Like bottom line, we're we're rough.

1950
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: We're halfway, little past halfway in the season. Three franch

1951
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: at least three franchise quarterbacks done for the year on

1952
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 2: teams who aspired to be playoff teams or Super Bowl teams.

1953
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Jets us in Minnesota. Like that's

1954
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: happened already on this season. So this is part of

1955
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: that life and that that's going to be part of

1956
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: the adjustment going forward. Kevin Will put Dorian Thompson Robbins

1957
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 2: is the best possible position to succeed.

1958
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 6: I believe that absolutely. Yes.

1959
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 2: Pet Supplies Plus giving me the chance to win tickets

1960
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: to home games all season long while providing the best

1961
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 2: deals for your petit over seventy five stores through at

1962
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: Ohio and or to win a Cleveland Browns dot com

1963
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: slash pet Supplies Plus receive a qu pont to use

1964
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: your local store with your Entry. Pet Supplies Plus is

1965
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: a proud partner of your Cleveland brown So much more

1966
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 2: to come. Let's to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty

1967
01:28:58,880 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland.

1968
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley bed Now

1969
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1970
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 2: John Kenne Gerard Tonight seven to eight Browns preview show

1971
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: all along the University Network. Mike Ford Junior going to

1972
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: join the program tonight, Tough, Tough program Today tomorrow we

1973
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: will start to focus on what this team is going forward,

1974
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: how to get the most out of Dorian Thompson Robinson,

1975
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 2: what that looks like.

1976
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 3: I think we have a pretty good idea.

1977
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: You and I kind of at a eureka moment we

1978
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: were talking to hoff about, you know, kind of the

1979
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: second half against Baltimore. Feels like that's what it will

1980
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 2: look like RBO game, and that's what it has to be.

1981
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: It's going to be quick read, see it, get it

1982
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: out of your hands, and go go.

1983
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1984
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: And he was a very willing and good runner at UCLA.

1985
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: He's elusive in the pocket. He has big time arm

1986
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: talent and we saw that in the preseason incredibly accurate.

1987
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of moxy to him. Obviously the

1988
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: ceiling is very different. But the one thing about dtr

1989
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: it converts to other people who could be playing in

1990
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: that position is there's an unknown component to him. And

1991
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 2: with the unknown come hope, comes hope, hope.

1992
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 14: And upside right. And that's what you know getting him

1993
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 14: these reps so that if this team can do what

1994
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 14: you hope it can over the next eight games, that

1995
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 14: by the time you get into those big time moments,

1996
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 14: the games slowed down for him and he's ready to

1997
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 14: give you a chance to win because at some point,

1998
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 14: no matter who the quarterback is, if you're coming out

1999
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 14: of the AFC or you want to do that, you

2000
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 14: are going to have to throw your way through a game.

2001
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 13: Yep.

2002
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where that's where the league is. So we

2003
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,879
Speaker 2: will get into all of that tomorrow on the program.

2004
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: The next level is coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody.

2005
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

2006
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

2007
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland.

2008
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 6: Pat Actor in