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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: All right, Today we have a special edition or a

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Speaker 2: special episode for you because Hannah has brought a guest

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Speaker 2: into the studio. So it's really our first la guest, right,

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Speaker 2: we've had you just set in New.

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Speaker 3: York City inaugural the best for first. This is what

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Speaker 3: I like to say. Try not to speak. I'm waiting

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Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if we did it. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: we did it without introducing you, if a lot of

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Speaker 2: people would recognize you by your voice, because you are

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Speaker 2: kind of famous for your voice.

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Speaker 4: In a world where one woman joins us for Hot Pursuit,

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Speaker 4: Will Lake Bell, Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, Blake Bell.

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Speaker 2: I love that movie, by the way, and you just

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Speaker 2: came out with an audiobook right last year, yes as

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Speaker 2: well said voice. Yeah, so how do you tell us?

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Speaker 2: How do you know Hannah?

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Speaker 4: I know Hannah because I think that they're are only

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Speaker 4: man just kind of like a handful of women that

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Speaker 4: I follow in the automotive journalist sector as it were.

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Speaker 4: And I kind of also was a fan of Magnus's,

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Speaker 4: her teammate in life between the two of them. I

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Speaker 4: think I just was a fan from Afar and then

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Speaker 4: Hannah and I kind of had this interesting connection with

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Speaker 4: her life story. Incidentally, that's where we really like our

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Speaker 4: friendship went to the next level, because I wrote a

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Speaker 4: pilot about her life.

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Speaker 5: Basically.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the thing about Lake that I think maybe people

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Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen her on the cover of

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Speaker 1: any magazine or you know, are familiar with her acting,

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Speaker 1: is Lake's actually an extremely talented writer and obviously producing directing.

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Speaker 1: We know that about Lake, but actually Lake does a

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Speaker 1: ton of writing.

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Speaker 3: She's extremely talented. Also had a car column for.

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Speaker 5: Report Hot Tip. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think the thing also that people don't know is

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Speaker 4: that my family's in motorsport. My father I grew up

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Speaker 4: crow Yeah, in motorsports. Some people in that industry are like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that you know that chick like grew up around that.

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Speaker 4: But my dad owned and developed Virginia International Raceway, Amateur

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Speaker 4: Racer sbr Racing, ELVA, couriers and coops and things like that.

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Speaker 4: And I was always actually also New Jersey Motorsport Park

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Speaker 4: just to give them a shout out as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: so he and if you're a motorcycle guy, well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely really learned to ride. Actually, yeah, I went

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Speaker 2: Lamborghini's there. I went to a Lamborghini driving school there

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Speaker 4: So I love, Yeah, that track is terrific, and I

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Speaker 4: the kids of Harvey Siegel, my father, because it's also idyllic, right,

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Speaker 4: It's like on this incredible plot of land. It has

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Speaker 4: He built all these really cool lodging lodges on the

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Speaker 2: It kind of kicked off a wave of that, I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: One question I had Hannah was how did she, you know,

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Speaker 4: I also will say this, my father, Harvey Siegel. He

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Speaker 4: Yeah, early on, and this was the one place where

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Speaker 4: we had three daughters and a son, and the son,

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Speaker 2: It's interesting you think it was like a sexist thing

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he grew up within you know, he's like, he's

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Speaker 4: eighty nine years old. Okay, so that gives you different generationally.

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Speaker 4: He's not thinking, oh, my daughters will also be taking

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Speaker 4: I remember when I first wrote, I did a car

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Speaker 4: And I think the first one was like a Maserati

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Speaker 4: he was so confused. He was like, who wrote this?

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Speaker 4: And now we've grown a lot since then. I will

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Speaker 4: give him credit, but he just was so he was like,

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Speaker 5: And I think that's just a generation. I do think

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Speaker 2: Well, Hannah, you're in the same generation essentially, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I go to races and we seek out the women

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Speaker 2: it's awesome, and obviously I have this is such a

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Speaker 2: I hate when men say this. But I have daughters,

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Speaker 2: you know, so I want the future to be you know,

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Speaker 2: oily and dirty for them as well. But you get inviting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that the key here is you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you have daughters. Okay, so next up, it's like we

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Speaker 4: there's an assumption that my dad was like, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's like it's not like his fault. He's just operating

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Speaker 4: within the system, right. But I will say there were

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Speaker 5: My you know, as a very very young girl. I

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Speaker 4: that allows them to be faster because they're thinking, they're thinking.

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Speaker 3: In your dad's theory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, you know, they're more and I

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Speaker 4: was like, meanwhile, I don't interesting. He's he's difficult. It's

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Speaker 4: a difficult figure. Listen, I'm being very honest and transparent.

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Speaker 4: Well he's eighty nine, honey, so you know he's not

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Speaker 5: And the truth is is, I think.

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Speaker 4: I'm at a place in my life where I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna speak candidly. Yeah, because you know, I

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Speaker 2: That's like my favorite part of it. I asked love

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Speaker 4: It's so cool that only exists because my dad is

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Speaker 4: like has some blind spots.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: The ego infects all of us, right, Like there's no

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think it's compelling as a you know, a story

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Speaker 4: point in my own narrative as a woman. But I

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Speaker 4: my relationship and love of everything automobile is attributed to

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Speaker 5: So I feel grateful.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome that you can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like the appreciation for cars is yours?

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Speaker 1: And at what point did it stop being just I'm

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Speaker 5: Or is this dad's? Is this you know? I remember

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Speaker 4: I thought other people are just, you know, on farms

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Speaker 4: no you know, kind of heaviness around it. For me

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Speaker 4: There was so much ego and ride a passage. You know,

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Speaker 4: And then eventually my dad put me in a King

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Speaker 4: which it was like, this is where he shines, right.

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Speaker 4: He was great at teaching stick because he would just

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Speaker 1: Because some people, you know, that's really beautiful about you,

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Speaker 1: And I think, well, it's interesting because Lake has created

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Speaker 5: It just felt right. Yeah. I think your cars. I

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Speaker 2: Wanting to hear someone say that. I believe I haven't

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Speaker 5: I thought it was very sexy.

442
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard. I've heard amazing things about if you's

443
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: another one that you have to separate the product from

444
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: the company because the company seems like, you know, a

445
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: dumpster fire.

446
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: And well, I I think that, you know, even the

447
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Speaker 4: like I on.

448
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Speaker 3: A cue, you know, like, yeah, completely amazing, that's so good.

449
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: Like there are there are options obviously if you want

450
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: a little status, a little you know, yuck yuck, You're

451
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna go Lucid, You're gonna go Rivian, You're gonna

452
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: you know, you want to pull up to yeah exactly.

453
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Speaker 5: But but but I think.

454
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Speaker 4: The ion Q, I think the I have the I four,

455
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 4: which is the BMW, which, by the way, yeah, it's

456
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 4: it's really just you know, I liked the pres I

457
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: looked into the but then I ended up going with

458
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 4: the I four ultimately for my daily driver. It's so easy.

459
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Speaker 2: I'm in love with BMW's electric vehicles, and I'm not

460
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: really good into electric vehicles. Yeah, but very like I

461
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: drove the I five for a week and it was amazing.

462
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Speaker 4: I thought about the I five, yeah, I and the

463
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Speaker 4: ix I.

464
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 2: Or maybe because it's so ugly, you know.

465
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Speaker 5: Well, you know what I think.

466
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something about when you're driving an electric vehicle,

467
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 4: everyone's just allowing a little more movement in the design

468
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 4: and the shape. They're like, hey, we're gonna be a

469
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: little a little little weird, little ugly, little little like

470
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Speaker 4: cute or you know. I like that it's a little

471
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Speaker 4: more expressive and there's some there's some risks taking I

472
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 4: think people should double down with that in the in

473
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: the electric space, I'm like, just double just it's electric,

474
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: We're in the future.

475
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 5: I mean definitely.

476
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 4: The cyber truck did that, but that's in my neighborhood now,

477
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I literally stopped and just looked at it.

478
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: I was like, are what I would look amazing in

479
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: the cyber truck. But let's just be honest.

480
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: I definitely want other companies to take chances.

481
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: And it's so cool that they did, right, I don't

482
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: even it is you think they hate or missed. It's awesome.

483
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: I was looking at an old like nineteen fifties Chrysler

484
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: recently on bring a trailer and it had massive fins

485
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: in the back, you know, and I thought, who designed this? Like, congratulations,

486
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: that's awesome.

487
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Speaker 1: Like do you feel like you're treated differently? Like if

488
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Speaker 1: you drive something to set? Are you received differently if

489
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Speaker 1: you're in an EV versus a Camaro or some other

490
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Speaker 1: some such?

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when I want to like find out

492
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 4: I drive Janet to set, you know what I mean?

493
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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I support.

494
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Speaker 2: That, but I hear we're about Janet to be honest.

495
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: Janet like she's all toffee first of all, caramel inside

496
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: and out. Okay, so when you're picturing her color, you're

497
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: picturing two tone toffee, all right.

498
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 5: You know it's all tan. Yeah she is. Oh my god,

499
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 5: she's so gorgeous.

500
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Speaker 4: People don't even I mean, you know, you're driving the

501
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: experiential just journey of driving Janet to down to the

502
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Speaker 4: shops or whatever or for by the way school drop off.

503
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Speaker 3: I understand. Do they get that this is a cool

504
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Speaker 3: car or they do?

505
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: I let them know and they feel it, Like you know,

506
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: when we're driving in the highway or something, and I go, oh,

507
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: check that out. That's you know, that's now for Maria Romeo. Like,

508
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Speaker 4: let me tell you a little bit about that. Oh,

509
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Speaker 4: isn't that great? You see the shapes. Isn't that a

510
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Speaker 4: different shape? What do you notice in the way that

511
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Speaker 4: the way that car looks to the car next to it?

512
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Speaker 5: Tell me about it? And there is even in the

513
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Speaker 5: in the color palettes.

514
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Speaker 4: You know, it's like, oh, the way that you know,

515
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Speaker 4: the type of you know, an out for green is

516
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 4: going to look very different than like, I don't know,

517
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: a green a green, you know, super choices, you know,

518
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 4: like there's something interesting even just even in palette. But

519
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: then shapes, and we do have a couple of Chrysler

520
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: and Catallacts that come through our neighborhood. I've got a

521
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Speaker 4: good neighborhood for this where I get a lot of

522
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Speaker 4: people have you know, classic cars, and they drive them

523
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Speaker 4: on a Sunday and so we get to sit on

524
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Speaker 4: the stoop and really kind of enjoy that.

525
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Speaker 1: I have another question about EV's versus combustion engines, though,

526
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Speaker 1: and I'm asking because you are so in tune with

527
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Speaker 1: sounds and.

528
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Speaker 5: With with this is the voice of course but also.

529
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Speaker 1: Right, so like tell me about just growing up being

530
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Speaker 1: around your dad at the track, what those sounds meant

531
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Speaker 1: to you then, but also now ev versus Janet.

532
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Speaker 3: It's it's a.

533
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Speaker 4: Huge it's a mournful thing because I do you know,

534
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 4: sound design in my life is so important, and the

535
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Speaker 4: sound of particularly that k R and any Shelby, Kobra

536
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: or anything.

537
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 5: You know, you're just I mean, you know that's set.

538
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: That sound and the smell is so visceral. I I

539
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: I think that for my children, I like reminding them again,

540
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: getting them in tune with it helps me too, you know,

541
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 4: just kind of let's enjoy the sound of that. Or

542
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 4: if you hear a really you know, someone with headers

543
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Speaker 4: just that you go by, you know, like and tell me,

544
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: you know, my kids are like, oh my gosh, it's

545
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: so loud. I'm like, I know, right, so that's really

546
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Speaker 4: telling you something about how this person has built their engine, and.

547
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Speaker 2: That's good what they want.

548
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but yeah, I think not having that in

549
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: the electric car is Honestly, it's it's a sign of evolution.

550
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 5: We're just moving with the times.

551
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Speaker 4: I don't. I do love music, so in a way,

552
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna jam that music and

553
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: really feel, you.

554
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: Know, energize.

555
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's just a different experience. But it feels

556
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: like we are so lucky and have the privilege to

557
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 4: evolve as you know, as a species, but also as

558
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: as just you know, a society, and so we have

559
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: our planet needs us to embrace electric vehicles and I

560
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: can be an automotive enthusiast and still you know, drive electric.

561
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: I love some of the fake sounds and this is

562
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Speaker 2: something that my next question. I mean, like I think

563
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: Hans Zimmer does the sounds for BMW, the EQUS that

564
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: hydrove sounds amazing. The Dodge has got this like echo

565
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: chamber that's just going to amplify the sounds of the

566
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: electric motor. Like it's different, right, It's not the same

567
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: obviously as a choppy cam on a Big eight.

568
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Speaker 3: But it's you don't have it on yours.

569
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Speaker 2: I don't have it on the I F don't have

570
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: It's like you can turn it off, so you probably activated,

571
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, but.

572
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: You obviously don't miss it. It's not like you've been wondering.

573
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: I'm not trying, you know.

574
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: It's like that thing of like when you're eating vegan food, Like,

575
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: don't give me a fake steak, you know what I'm saying, Like,

576
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: either give me a steak or give me like a

577
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: great butternut squash soup.

578
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. That's vegan, you know. So

579
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of that.

580
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Speaker 2: For me.

581
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm in an electric car, Like, you're not

582
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 4: gonna fool me, okay, And the torque, the experience, everything

583
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: about it is gonna feel electric, So you know that's sensible. Yeah,

584
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: but but you know, the creativity of First of all,

585
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna push Han Zimmer sounds out of bed.

586
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: But the point is, I think I think it's very

587
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: cool that there are versions of that if that's you know, appealing,

588
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: all of that stuff. It's all experimental, it's exciting, it's modern.

589
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: It's like, how can we play with this new uh

590
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: automotive medium?

591
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 5: You know.

592
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: So it's cool, it's good. We've got a creative Hannah in.

593
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: The I know, I love it.

594
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: I have the creative energy. I totally agree. But I

595
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: can't get as excited about an electric vehicle for the

596
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: most part as I can about your Camaro. Like if

597
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: I think of the Lopie idol sound. You know, I

598
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: just want to hear that. But this is a different

599
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: maybe a different thing.

600
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: Well here's a I mean, like, I'm not a speed queen,

601
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: so I I will I.

602
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 5: For instance, my Camaro is like a three oh five.

603
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: Like I'm not I'm not like jamming down the highway

604
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: like a maniac, you know. And I'm not getting tickets,

605
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: you know, if anything, I'm getting tickets for like your

606
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: headlight is out, but it's it's really interesting. I quite

607
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: like a cruise, you know, because of that thing you

608
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: just said, which is like it's about the sound, the smell,

609
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: the crew. I'm like windows down.

610
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: You know.

611
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: That's exactly how it is with my Corvette, the C three, Yeah,

612
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: seventy seven. It's slow, it's a terrible driving car, but

613
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: I love it because it has personality and.

614
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: It's just a thing.

615
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: It's just interesting to do, and it feels like you're

616
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: doing a thing that is really nice. It's not about

617
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: getting anywhere fast, and it reflects a personality and it's

618
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: just not boring. And I feel like, you know, a

619
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: lot of the times electric vehicles can tend to be appliances,

620
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: which is fine, but it's nice to have different tools

621
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: for different purposes.

622
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: And it's a meditation. So right, So you're when we

623
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: we we're so utility when we drive our electric vehicles

624
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: or our modern vehicles, and when we get into our

625
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: classic car, we are making uh, you know, we're having

626
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: a conversation with an art.

627
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Speaker 3: Piece, you know, nineteen seventy seven.

628
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, with nineteen seventy seven. And you're going to have

629
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: to kind of juice it a little bit to get

630
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: it on.

631
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna have the.

632
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: Hurt, you know, because like for mine, mine revs really high.

633
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: She like when you first turned out, it's like and

634
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, I have to blipper and then you know,

635
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: it's like and I love all of her quirks because

636
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: it's it's it's I'm not thinking about work. I'm not

637
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: thinking about whatever this guy said to me that blah

638
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: blah blah. It's just everything's out of the It's a

639
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: full meditation. I've arrived at driving Janet and relationship. It's

640
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: a relationship, and that's a meditation.

641
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 5: You know.

642
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: Oh how's oh seconds sounds it feels better to today,

643
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: you know.

644
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: I hope we can get a photo, Hannah and you

645
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: can tweet it out.

646
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: I got Yeah, we can share that.

647
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Are there any other I looked back at some of

648
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: your columns. Hannah sent some links and I saw, for example,

649
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: you reviewed the SLS Mercedes SLS AMG, which is a

650
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: gorgeous car. Is there anything that you look at in

651
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: the street and you say, like, I really would like

652
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: to get one of those like that?

653
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: That's it's a great question.

654
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: I yeah, there's there's a lot of cars that I'm

655
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: just like, oh, that's a turn on.

656
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: Well, you know, well, hello.

657
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. If someone was taking you

658
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: out on a date, what car would you like to

659
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: have them show up in?

660
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: Maybe or her? I mean some of them show up.

661
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

662
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: I think if they showed up in like a Lamborghini Mura,

663
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: Oh that's very cool.

664
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 5: I would be like, I'm.

665
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: Sorry, what is going on? I have been taken out

666
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: on a date on a two four sixty Noo Spider.

667
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: That was great. Wow was great.

668
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: That's a statement.

669
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a statement.

670
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: And it's like it's that's not a super easy drive,

671
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, so it's really saying, you know, I got

672
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: to handle on this. But the Mira too, I mean

673
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: that's that's.

674
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Like a very cool.

675
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be great or like a you know,

676
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: even a Pantera detamto. You know, I think in nineteen

677
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: seventies like Italian.

678
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can't go wrong.

679
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: I mean just showing up in one of those cars

680
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: and proving that it runs, and you've got it running

681
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: and you trust it enough to have it around town.

682
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: Yea evening. That shows real confidence and women like confidence.

683
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: Any car that you don't want to give to Alan Muscle,

684
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: I do, I do, I do, Yeah, I do.

685
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: I like and it I do. I think that. You know,

686
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: I'm not.

687
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: Super impressed with like a brand new I have nothing

688
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: against the g Wagon, but I don't that's not gonna.

689
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: I hear you.

690
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: I mean I dated I dated a guy with the

691
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: g Wagon and it was thank god I loved him,

692
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because I was like, I

693
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: got nothing against this, you know, so it does prove

694
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: that you you can you know, I'm not like dissing

695
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 4: the g Wagon.

696
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: The Wagon is a beautiful car.

697
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: It's just that unfortunately certain cars can start to like

698
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: glean some of these.

699
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Like it's so sad You're right about the Yeah, but

700
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 2: it's great in Berlin and you know she's not a person,

701
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: but it definitely. It makes a statement no matter what.

702
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: When you're also, I also like a restomod. This is controversial.

703
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: I'm interested it because I like a classic shape, but

704
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: I'm also willing to evolve with the times, and so

705
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 4: when I see it, really I've stopped people to be like,

706
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: is that, you know, like seeing an electric you know,

707
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: old Cadillac ers like, you know, I think there's something

708
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: kind of cool, and I think this is a part

709
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: of the rebellion of my dad again, where there's just

710
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: everything has to be exactly classic period correct.

711
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, period correct.

712
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 4: Like there's something kind of rebellious about saying, well, what

713
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: if it worked and you could.

714
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: Drive it, you know, like imagine, can you imagine?

715
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: I think it's the best. I mean, I don't want

716
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: drum breaks. I love a classic shape, I love a

717
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: classic sound. I don't want drum breaks I want I

718
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: don't want to reduce the amount of safety that I

719
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: can experience. Hannah, I don't even know your take on

720
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: resto mods. I love I love them.

721
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I am not in theory opposed to resto mods. My

722
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: problem is I've driven many of them that are just

723
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: really shodily built, and it's the type of thing where

724
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: the people who build them sort of expect to get

725
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: a pass on craftsmanship because well, we've done all of

726
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: this stuff and it's like, well yeah, but you still

727
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: need to like make sure body panels align and you know,

728
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: the interior doesn't come off when I pull it. So

729
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: in theory, I love the idea of a restomod, and

730
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: I actually do. I can see, especially if you're a parent,

731
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: you need something that is reliable you just do. It's

732
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: not cool when your car breaks down and you have

733
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: two kids in the back. It's hardly cool when a

734
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: car breaks down for me, but I can survive because

735
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: it's just me.

736
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: When you have kids, it's kind of a different thing.

737
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: I mean, my breaks were like oh yeah.

738
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and under saying there are other considerations, especially when

739
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: you have other young children involved.

740
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: I think the restomod's like I mean, if you go

741
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: full fat resto mod like Icon or Singer or Revology,

742
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: then you're gonna be fine. But there it's just very expensive,

743
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: like ridiculously.

744
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's too expot Yeah, that's the only reason why

745
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: I don't have one in my collection.

746
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: But you know, maybe one day when I make money.

747
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: But the point is, I think that there are there

748
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: is a sense of creativity in a resto mod so

749
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: it does. Unfortunately you've had experiences I guess you know

750
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: where it's just like, yeah, the instead of creativity, they're

751
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: just cut in corners, like they should get an award

752
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: for just making it work. But I think when when

753
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: you see really beautiful creative choices and craftsmanship going into

754
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: the restaurant, it can be really kind of like a

755
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: real conversation between old and new.

756
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, Like, tell me about what you're

757
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: working on now that we.

758
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: Should sure to watch for in the coming weeks and months.

759
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: Well, I've been in the independent film circuit in this

760
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: past year or so and continuing that. So I just

761
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: finished a movie with Ewan McGregor called Mother Couch.

762
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 5: Not sure when that's coming out, but.

763
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: Him motorcycle guy, motorcycle guy.

764
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: Love talking to him about about and he's got a

765
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 4: couple of cool classics. Yeah, but it's a different era

766
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 4: than you know. He goes real, he goes real old.

767
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: But he's an aficionado for sure. Yeah.

768
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: Anyway, so that will be coming out, is that called

769
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: Mother Couch? Ellen persons in it. It's really very much.

770
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: Can you give us the.

771
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so the the this filmmaker is so cool

772
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 4: nick Les Larsson.

773
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 5: Basically, it's it's it's a group of kids.

774
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: I'm actually Ewan's wife in it, but these adult chill

775
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: ldren have a very sort of curmudgeonly mother who goes

776
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: to a furniture shop to purchase something and then she

777
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: sits on a couch and she won't move and they

778
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: can't get her off, and you're like what.

779
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: But it's so it's.

780
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: Mystical and strange and wonderful and like a character piece.

781
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 5: And Taylor Russell's in it as well. She's fantastic.

782
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: So it's just this kind of beautiful, poetic, hilarious, heartbreaking

783
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: story about this very simple conceit.

784
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: So do it in Scotland? Did you fill it in Scotland?

785
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: No?

786
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 5: We shot it in in like North Carolina.

787
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: So North Carolina's cool too for driving because I was

788
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: just like, hey, somebody like you and McGregor obviously famous

789
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: for motorcycles. When you work with somebody like Dak Shephard,

790
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, who obviously is obsessed with you know, muscle

791
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: and cars, there's.

792
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 5: A funny story about that.

793
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: Actually he I want to hear it. I want.

794
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: Well, you know in our show, obviously I was friends

795
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: with him. Bless this mess uh show that I created,

796
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: and you and I for the.

797
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: First episode, I will tell you. I mean, I mean

798
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: I started watching it right away.

799
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: And never watched it again.

800
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. I was looking forward with anticipation

801
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: to it is what I met, because.

802
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: I know, well, it's funny because we drive a leaf

803
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: in it, and and for us, both the Dax and

804
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: I being like motorheads, it was like quite funny that

805
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: we've put ourselves in a leaf.

806
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 5: He's like, god, damn it, no shade on the leaf.

807
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 6: But so actually a little shade on the leaf, okay,

808
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 6: Like but it don't we could work on the design,

809
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 6: is all we're saying.

810
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: Disgusting.

811
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of leaf talk in the show.

812
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 4: But anyway, so hevet his character eventually gets a truck,

813
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: you know, and like a real American truck, and there's

814
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: this one scene where we're like it's as if something's

815
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: awakened in his character and he starts, you know, and

816
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: there was like he's gonna go into a field and

817
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 4: really you know, go for and do donuts and all

818
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: this stuff. And of course Dax is chomping at the bit,

819
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 4: you know, and I know, you know, I know him

820
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: so well. I know what we're doing. I know what's

821
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: going on in his head. And you know, they're like,

822
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: you know, production is like, what should we get a

823
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: stunt driver? And I was like, guys, just you're just

824
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: gonna have to let.

825
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: Him do it.

826
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to google to see what

827
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: truck because I know he's a good guy.

828
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: I know I know, but I I'm not sure if

829
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: it was before, I can't remember, but anyway, so you're

830
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: gonna tell us he got in there. And I was like,

831
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: the hardest part was for me to pretend that I

832
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: was scared while he did absolute madness jumps and you know,

833
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: he was really going for it, and it was kind

834
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: of a great day on set. Of course, production was

835
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: like just flop sweating, but I had to be like ah,

836
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: you know, and like kind of scared.

837
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 5: But of course I was like I'm a grown woman.

838
00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: You know.

839
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: It's like I know, had to like I'll drive, you know.

840
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: But of course, you know, my ego and my like

841
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: puffed up kind of you know, between us, we both

842
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: are kind of like alpha and a little bit as people.

843
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 4: So we both were kind of like, but I fought

844
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: for him to get to.

845
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: Do it him.

846
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, I just wonder, like you work with and you're

847
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: surrounded by all these you know, people in your films

848
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: and in your in your shows that are also car people.

849
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: And Rob Cordrey was with was on Top Gear America

850
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: with Dax. Right, do you guys just sit around and

851
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: and I've just researched you and saw that he married you,

852
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: for example, so you're close, right?

853
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah he married me?

854
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I was officiated, Yes I did.

855
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 5: Cowdrey is a very very different.

856
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: So do you guys all sit around talk cars or

857
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: do they? Is it about like you know, I was.

858
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: I definitely was friends with Cordrey before his awakening.

859
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 5: That we've all talked about.

860
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: We've had these waitings, so I got to kind of

861
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: know him before and then in you know, and see

862
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: that awakening occur. He always like was interested but then

863
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: really like now he's just you know, he's.

864
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: Bitten by the bug obviously.

865
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: But I yeah, I think, yeah, we did we gravitate

866
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 4: towards each other, I suppose, and I have I will

867
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: say this. I want to plug even though it does

868
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: not even have purchase yet. I wrote a movie called

869
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 4: Baja Black Sheep about the Baja one thousand, and it

870
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: is a female driven, pun intended movie about I kind

871
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: of create this, this sort of mythology of a female

872
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 4: racing team.

873
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 5: So that is.

874
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 3: What's its status.

875
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 4: Its status is, I'm looking for suitors to help financial Uh,

876
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm raising money to me.

877
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: I want to watch that movie.

878
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: I want to watch that movie. Girl there at that movie.

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Speaker 1: There are so many people, you know, there, there's a

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many people who would jump

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Speaker 1: on watching that.

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Speaker 4: It's universal, guys. Everybody loves a racing movie. Nobody gets

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Speaker 4: to see a lady do it. I'm like, if anyone

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Speaker 4: is gonna do it, it's gonna be Lake Mel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, let's make this happen. Get this out to

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Speaker 1: all Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: Subscriber tickets to the Alamo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: It's we gotta go. We gotta go bigger, we gotta

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Speaker 4: go GMC, we gotta go Lemley. We're gonna do Alamo too,

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Speaker 4: but we gotta go big.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Cool, I'm there, I'm ex cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's been such a pleasure having you in

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Speaker 2: the studio and joining us. Thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say, Lake really is one of

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Speaker 1: the most genuine people I have ever met.

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Speaker 3: Let alone in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know what people think about Hollywood, but

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Speaker 1: but Lake is truly genuine, kind, the best hostess I

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Speaker 1: have ever seen. Truly, it's it's she's a wonder to behold.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it, but she truly

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Speaker 1: is one of the most fascinating and kind people I

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Speaker 1: have ever met. It's truly genuine, and it's such a

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Speaker 1: treat to have.

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Speaker 2: I will say, when you know when you I was

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Speaker 2: researching you know your work, like for this, and you

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Speaker 2: know when someone younger than you like achieves so much

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Speaker 2: at such a young age, and you're like, how the

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Speaker 2: hell did they do? That was the kind of vibe

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Speaker 2: I was getting, Like, you just must do so much work.

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Speaker 3: If you met her, you would know how she doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It's coming up.

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Speaker 5: I do appreciate it. I feel, I genuinely feel very privileged.

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Speaker 4: And to age to evolve that is a huge That

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Speaker 4: is like my north star.

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Speaker 5: I feel.

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Speaker 4: I've experienced a lot of things in my life with

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Speaker 4: my children where I've almost lost both of them in

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Speaker 4: different ways.

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Speaker 5: So I think that allows me to.

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Speaker 4: Be very measured and to you know, move through life

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Speaker 4: with a sense of perspective and gratitude.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for.

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Speaker 3: Your I'm not saying anything after that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Hannah. That's all we got for this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more next week.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Email us at hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

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