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Speaker 1: Just one of those days where there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: interesting NFL stories. Monday morning, quarterback Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,

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Speaker 1: is joining US live, So listen. When a longtime reporter

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Speaker 1: comes out with something and the coach completely refutes it.

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Speaker 1: I get why a coach refutes it. I don't get

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Speaker 1: why a reporter would just make it up when he's

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Speaker 1: got to be in that locker room six days a week.

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Speaker 1: What do you make about the Lamar Jackson stories. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's been a weird year. Practices doesn't practice. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of the story?

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Speaker 3: A couple things like I think number one, Colin, there's

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Speaker 3: obviously a lot of water under the bridge between the

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Speaker 3: Ravens and Lamar. You want to go back to the

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Speaker 3: contract negotiation, you can. He's obviously had his issues staying healthy.

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Speaker 3: The last couple of years, and you do have to

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Speaker 3: wonder if that's something bigger, like if there's something there that,

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Speaker 3: like his body's breaking down because of the historic amount

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Speaker 3: of damage he's taken on as a quarterback, that's starting

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Speaker 3: to catch up with him. So you have that piece

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Speaker 3: of it, the other piece of it that like its

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Speaker 3: a little inside baseball. But he doesn't have an agent,

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Speaker 3: and so when he does get hurt, a lot of

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Speaker 3: times the full information on what his injury is, how

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Speaker 3: severe it is, like a lot of times that doesn't

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Speaker 3: really fully come to light, which raises a lot of

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Speaker 3: other questions, both publicly and maybe even in some corners

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Speaker 3: of locker room, on well, what's actually wrong with Lamar.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's one reason why, like John Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: came out and was so transparent he's usually not, was

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Speaker 3: so transparent about Lamar Jackson's injury and that it was

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Speaker 4: I think he was taking up for him.

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Speaker 3: Like my experience has been that John Harbaugh has been

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Speaker 3: one of the most hard defenders of Lamar.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That anything's broken there, but things have certainly gotten wonky

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Speaker 3: and we are at a point now where we're going

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Speaker 3: to be talking about these things Contractually, his cap hits

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Speaker 3: million dollars. He's got two years left on his deal.

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Speaker 3: They had talked about going back in and giving him

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Speaker 3: a correction to his previous contract after Josh Allen got

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Speaker 3: one last offseason. That's obviously going to be on the

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Speaker 3: table again this offseason. And if all the injury stuff

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Speaker 3: talking about having to answer some pretty significant questions going forward.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I think Jylan Lamar Jackson is at

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Speaker 3: Baltimore raven in twenty twenty six. But this definitely feels like,

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Speaker 3: after the expectation they had in turn for where the

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Speaker 3: there could be some pretty big changes coming in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: I can just tell you I've talked to people there

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Speaker 3: who felt like this is the best roster they'd had decades,

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Speaker 3: and to not make the playoffs obviously is going to

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Speaker 3: get the owner's attention and could lead to some changes,

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Speaker 3: whether you know, it's some.

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Speaker 4: Some level of wholesale change or more cosmetic changes. We'll see, Oh.

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Speaker 5: They want Jared goff out.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're all worked up, which is you know,

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Speaker 5: I've been to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Where do they stand today on their coaching staff in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a really loaded team on golf where

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Speaker 4: Stuff, you know, I think this is so interesting about

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Speaker 3: To me, at least, Colin is like we always talk

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Speaker 3: And I don't think people take the time to look

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Speaker 3: Like this feels like maybe that's the point where that happens.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think this is about any sort of

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Speaker 3: and I don't know, maybe you can show me his

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Speaker 1: So Sean mcdermot's been in a good mood recently, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a great look that Vrabel comes in and

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Speaker 1: get to the conference championship or there's a big, big

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Speaker 1: discussion after that playoff loss, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I haven't gotten like the since talking to people internally.

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Speaker 3: There's a big discussion point yet. But they are going

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Speaker 3: this offseason, and so like you kind of look at

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're at that point yet.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's really been a big discussion point internally,

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Speaker 3: And I think it's interesting for a few teams now too. Right,

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Speaker 3: So Patrick Mahomes is not in the playoffs this year,

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Speaker 5: I know it's a ways off.

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Speaker 1: I know it's the drafts in April, but I wonder

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Speaker 1: how talent evaluators I've been told Mendoza is a better

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of ways to go.

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Speaker 1: You could keep Dart, trade down the pick, get a

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Speaker 1: you could do both. Wouldn't recommend that with New York media,

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Speaker 1: but I think you have to consider. I mean, Mendoza

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Speaker 1: or Notre Dame or Oklahoma. Yeah, it's sixty eight percent

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's over as far as the first

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks take taken. By the way, I think Dante Moore,

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Speaker 3: like over the next months, could play himself into that discussion.

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Speaker 3: Like Dante Moore is somebody at least that has the

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Speaker 3: but you know, he's somebody that's at least gotten the

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Speaker 4: Did it again.

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Speaker 3: And that was the Arizona Cardinals who took Josh Rosen

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Speaker 4: At that point where yes, like we can do that.

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Speaker 3: And here's why the gap needs to be big, because

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Speaker 3: what you can get for the number one overall pick

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Speaker 3: is significantly more than you'd be able to trade Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dart for right now, Like it's basically like driving a

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, once Jackson Dart is in the league, same thing

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Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to get what you

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Speaker 3: So it's not just Mendoza versus Dart. You look at

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Speaker 4: You stick with Dart. You trade the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be able to get so much for the

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Speaker 4: If the gap is huge, well, there's nothing more important

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Speaker 3: So that's the determination the Giants would have to have

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Speaker 3: to come to, is that Fernando Mendoza or Dante more

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Speaker 3: they are so much better than Jackson Dart that we

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Speaker 5: Makes two of us, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Albert, all right, thanks Colin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips

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Speaker 4: Let me put this into context.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 8: Well, let's go back to the Chiefs demise of the Dynasty.

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Speaker 4: It's over, baby, it's done.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be an uphill climb, and they're probably gonna

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Speaker 6: The only time it ever crossed my mind is I

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Speaker 1: No, well, I don't think he's gonna have to work

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Speaker 4: Didn't he win the power Ball when he met Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 8: They're engaged, you know, come on, I don't know. Listen,

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Speaker 1: You know he's the best tight ends ever.

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Speaker 4: He's on the short list for sure, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: For always says the right thing. The quarterbacks these days

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Speaker 8: twenty one years in charge of the Utes, though he

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Speaker 8: made it necessarily clear. He wasn't retiring from coaching. Everybody

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Speaker 8: knows what's up. One hundred and one wins is right

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Speaker 8: up there among coaches without a CFP appearance.

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Speaker 5: Well he does.

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Speaker 1: He creates an identity, and I think Albert Breer said

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Speaker 1: that when you think of Utah football, you go ascare

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Speaker 1: any GM in the NFL. I was talking to Steve

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Speaker 1: Kahim one time about this. He's like Utah guys. He

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Speaker 1: goes those tight ends, block those running backs, he goes

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Speaker 1: those are tough guys. Utah creates tough guys. And so

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Speaker 1: you get a guy who very much fits into the

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Speaker 1: mold of Big ten football. It'll be like Iowa with

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Speaker 1: better players.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know how to say this delicately.

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Speaker 8: I like winning him a lot. He's a great against

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Speaker 8: the spread coach, but kinent. In the last calendar year,

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Speaker 8: we've seen some of the older gentlemen, more guys in

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Speaker 8: their seventies, really stumble right in the NFL and in

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Speaker 8: college football, winning.

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Speaker 4: L sixty six.

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Speaker 1: But Belichick wasn't a college guy. Of course, it was rough,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pete Carroll, that's NFL. Kyle Whittingham is successful

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Speaker 1: and he's transitioning to a better program with more money,

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Speaker 1: with better recruits. This will be the best roster Kyle

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Speaker 1: Whittingham's ever had.

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Speaker 8: Well, but we say that, let me ask if michigf

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Speaker 8: do you think Michigan went to their star quarterback Bryce

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Speaker 8: Underwood future stars supposedly number one high school player got

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Speaker 8: all the nil money. Do you think they said, hey,

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Speaker 8: we're bringing in Kyle Whitningham just to gauge his reaction

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Speaker 8: or no, quarterbacks don't rule the show.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think they went to a player.

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Speaker 4: What would you say the percentages he turns up in

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Speaker 4: the transfer port.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but he I think you can

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Speaker 1: win a lot of games at Michigan with Kyle Whitningham. Immediately.

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Speaker 1: There's no two three years next year. That's a ten

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Speaker 1: win program. Absolutely Michigan, not even looking at who the

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Speaker 1: opponents are. Well, if Underwood stays it is a playoff program.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I listened.

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Speaker 8: I like the I think it's great. We'll see that

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Speaker 8: they've been through a lot the Sharone Moore story. I'm

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Speaker 8: sure you've been reading the details.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, miss a lot. Jmack with the News.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Herd line news.

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Speaker 1: He's been red hot Jmax's NFL picks.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's end this week on a bright spot.

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Speaker 1: I see some of the games you have here as

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Speaker 1: Christmas is in the books. Now it's about seating Pride, Jets,

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Speaker 1: Giants still terrible.

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Speaker 5: All right, JMX, you ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Let's start with the game.

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Speaker 5: I like the over in this one.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Cardinals Bengals on Fox.

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Speaker 8: It should should be a good fun game, especially if

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Speaker 8: you're a Bengals fan.

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Speaker 4: The headline for Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Victory will be Frosty the Joe Man was a swaggy

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Speaker 8: happy QB. Give me Joe Burrow going off in this

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Speaker 8: one against the hapless Cardinals Colin. If you've seen the

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Speaker 8: Arizona and injury report these last few weeks, they just

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Speaker 8: shutting everybody down. This is a soft tank, without a doubt,

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Speaker 8: and Burrow should put another thirty forty points on the

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Speaker 8: board easily. I watched his team last week to Cardinals

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Speaker 8: try to fight early and then they just didn't have it.

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Speaker 8: They don't have the dudes to get to They couldn't

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Speaker 8: pressure Kirk Cousins last week.

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Speaker 4: How they gonna get to Burrow? I think Burrow goes

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Speaker 4: off big game.

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Speaker 8: The only redeeming quality here is my fantasy team needs

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Speaker 8: big points from Trey McBride. The Bengals, colin once again,

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Speaker 8: are the worst team in the league defending tight ends.

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Speaker 8: They give up the most receptions, yards and touchdowns. Trey McBride,

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Speaker 8: he could, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, he could go for like fifteen catches.

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Speaker 8: For two hundred yards. Seriously, he's having a great season. Underrated,

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Speaker 8: but give me the Bengals big here.

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Speaker 1: Toorros headlines today. I like the Seahawks to win. I

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Speaker 1: think the Panthers are playing much better than people want

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Speaker 1: to admit because nobody watches the Panthers outside of the state.

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Speaker 1: What do you say, Well, listen, this is a good game.

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Speaker 8: It actually means a lot. I know people saying it

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Speaker 8: doesn't mean much because you need this momentum. Carolina's alternated

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Speaker 8: wins and losses sins like October. The headline for Panthers

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Speaker 8: hosting the Seahawks will be Sugar and Bryce make everything nice.

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Speaker 8: Panthers turned Sam into Ham. Yes, I'm rolling.

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Speaker 4: With you, Colin on this one. I think this is

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Speaker 4: a fun one.

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Speaker 8: Dave Canalis, by the way, head coach of the Carolina

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Speaker 8: spent about a decade in Seattle, spent a lot of

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Speaker 8: time there.

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Speaker 4: People thought maybe he would be one of our future coaches.

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Speaker 8: Now where he obviously is leading Carolina to glory in Carolina, and.

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Speaker 4: I think Seattle go.

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Speaker 8: We've got a little bit of data on these West

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Speaker 8: Coast teams traveling east late in the season.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're worn down. You know, it's holiday stuff.

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Speaker 8: Going on, and this is a game out of division.

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Speaker 8: It's like, oh man, all we got to do is work.

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Speaker 4: Worry abot Week eighteen. I think Seattle slips up here.

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Speaker 8: I've got some Carolina money line finals stack, Colin. If

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Speaker 8: you really want to get interesting, and you think both

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Speaker 8: teams are gonna play cautious so nobody gets hurt, take

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Speaker 8: a look at the under in this game. Remember, by

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Speaker 8: the way, the Rams went to Carolina recently and lost outright,

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Speaker 8: so Carolina can be plucky with that run game.

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Speaker 1: Also, the Seahawks were in a wild, wild game with

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Speaker 1: the Rams ninety defensive snaps. So it's you know, Seahawks

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Speaker 1: can be a bit dinged up, all right. Tomorrow's headlines today,

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Speaker 1: Oh Lord, actually has ramifications here. It's like the best

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Speaker 1: awful game of the year. Giants at the Raiders.

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Speaker 8: This is big, especially if you're a draftnick. I know

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Speaker 8: you and I both like the draft lot. This is

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Speaker 8: a huge swing game. It's on in the late window.

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Speaker 8: There's only two games in the late window. The headline

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Speaker 8: for Raiders Giants will be Mary blitzmouths g men get

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Speaker 8: binged by Crosby.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we need Max Crosby to play.

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Speaker 8: That would be huge. He is a very tough cookie

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Speaker 8: coming off the edge. He had a good game last

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Speaker 8: week against Houston. I think the Raiders win this outright, Colin.

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Speaker 8: We got two teams with nine straight losses, but one

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Speaker 8: of them the Giants. I've seen a lot of quit

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Speaker 8: in that team recently. Okay, I know a couple players

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Speaker 8: made some nice plays last week against the Vikings, Colin,

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Speaker 8: Like you said, j J.

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Speaker 4: What's the name? Jackson Dark didn't throw a pass for

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Speaker 4: like the first fifteen plays.

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Speaker 8: They're worried about him getting hurt again and offensively, they

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Speaker 8: can't do anything. I think the Raiders show up here

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Speaker 8: at home. By the way, Pete Carroll, he's a prideful guy.

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Speaker 8: He's an old guy. He ain't going out soft and

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Speaker 8: not trying. He's got these guys named up.

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Speaker 1: I think the Raiders win a close one here all right,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's headlines today, This is a really good game. Eagles

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Speaker 1: at the Bills on Fox. The world loves Buffalo. I

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Speaker 1: worry about that run defense and Saquon Barkley three straight

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Speaker 1: weeks looks a little like last year.

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Speaker 5: Saquon, what say you?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 8: I think part of the reason everybody loves the Bills

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Speaker 8: is because Josh Allen getting points or under a field

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Speaker 8: goal favored.

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Speaker 4: He's like automatic.

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Speaker 8: However, the headline for Bills hosting the Eagles will be

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Speaker 8: Jingle Els, Jingle Els.

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Speaker 4: Allen lays an egg.

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Speaker 8: Now listen to the big one. Here is Jalen Carter, that

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Speaker 8: beast in the middle, probably with the best defensive tackle

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Speaker 8: in the league. So the two games, two of the

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Speaker 8: games he missed, Colin Jackson Dart ran wild against him,

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Speaker 8: and Justin Herbert ran while both over fifty yards rushing

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Speaker 8: where you're like, oh, josh Allen can do that.

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Speaker 4: However, Carter is back practicing. They expect him to play

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Speaker 4: Carter and Jordan Davis in the middle.

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Speaker 8: You're not moving those guys, man, It's really tough to

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Speaker 8: run up the middle against this Philadelphia defense. And oh,

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Speaker 8: by the way, you watch that game last week Josh

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Speaker 8: Allen turned an ankle against the Browns.

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Speaker 5: They they couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: He didn't scribble once in the second half. They took

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Speaker 4: X rays.

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Speaker 8: Now, he was a full participant in practice today moments ago,

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Speaker 8: so they are expecting him to be fine. I don't

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Speaker 8: expect them to jeopardize their playoff run by getting another

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Speaker 8: ankle injury.

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Speaker 4: I don't expect many runs from him. I think the

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Speaker 4: Eagles can win.

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Speaker 8: This colin I know you watch them against the Raiders

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Speaker 8: in Washington.

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Speaker 4: It's like, who cares those teams think?

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Speaker 8: But they're looking different empty sets, right, and then a

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Speaker 8: lot of play action under center. Jalen hurts a lot

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Speaker 8: of shotgun the season. He's moved under center a lot

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Speaker 8: now and it's throwing the defense off. Are they gonna

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Speaker 8: run or are they gonna pass?

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Speaker 4: The play action?

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Speaker 8: So I like the wrinkles the Eagles have done here,

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Speaker 8: and I think Monday we'll get you talking about can

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Speaker 8: the Bills really win the Super Bowl after they lose

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Speaker 8: to the Eagles?

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Speaker 1: All Right? We you and I have never had a

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Speaker 1: segment where we agreed on three picks.

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Speaker 5: This could be a historic moment.

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Speaker 1: To cap the twenty twenty five Seeds at actual agreement.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today Bears at the Niners, I mean the Niners.

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey wobbling into the game off of twenty seven touch Affairwell,

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Speaker 1: what do you got for me?

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Speaker 4: So there is there, homersm you like the Bears here?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Big game?

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Speaker 8: The headline for Bears forty nine will be Brocket around

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Speaker 8: the Chris Smiths Tree.

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Speaker 4: That be Sunday night.

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Speaker 8: Give me brock Party in the Niners, Colin, I know,

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Speaker 8: short week, they were just on Monday Night football, but

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Speaker 8: I love me some brock Party. And uh, I do

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Speaker 8: think that Robert Sala's defense will do just enough here

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Speaker 8: to slow down Caleb.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna remind you.

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Speaker 8: Guys, brock Party's offense, by the way, hasn't punted in

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Speaker 8: I believe.

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Speaker 4: It's four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the secondary has had hasn't had many sacks

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Speaker 1: in the same period. That's a great point. They are

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Speaker 1: last in the league in saxe. The snee line just

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Speaker 1: does not generate the secondaries. I shouldn't Boso Warner. Their

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Speaker 1: front sevens just doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Generate pass rushes.

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Speaker 8: So their second to last in pressure rate, second dead

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Speaker 8: last in sacks. They're just not getting to the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: So you're thinking, oh, Caleb will have success. But Sala's

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Speaker 8: tweaking where he what he's doing on the back end.

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Speaker 4: They're mixing up.

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Speaker 8: Coverages and quarterbacks are kind of struggling now. Rivers did

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Speaker 8: not struggle for much of that game until the end

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Speaker 8: when he threw the pick six. So I'm guessing we

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Speaker 8: see some points here, but I'm gonna bet on brock

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Speaker 8: Purty in that offense. By the way, last year in

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Speaker 8: this spot, thirty eight thirteen Niners put.

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Speaker 4: It on him, and the Niners were good last year.

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Speaker 8: They didn't have McCaffrey, Rock Perdy and Juwan Jennings cooked

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Speaker 8: finals at roma. Dunze just ruled out moments ago he

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Speaker 8: will not play Luther burd in his back.

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Speaker 4: That's a good get back. He could beat the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers deep.

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Speaker 8: But I got a Rock with a better quarterback, and

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Speaker 8: I got a Rock with a better head coach in

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Speaker 8: this one in the Niners.

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Speaker 5: Imagine you think those are wide margins.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, brock perty is a proven winner,

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Speaker 8: and Kyle Shanahan's.

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Speaker 4: One of the best coaches in the league. I like

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Speaker 4: Ben a lot. Caleb's got some upside.

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Speaker 1: But just check the weather forecast. It's been cloudy in California.

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Speaker 8: By the way, if San Fran wins this, that sets

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Speaker 8: up for Week eight. We need San Frana win this,

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Speaker 8: so there's some drop. There's no drama around the league.

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Speaker 8: If San Fran faces Seattle next week Week eighteen and

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Speaker 8: they win, they're the number one.

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Speaker 5: Look here we had Fox. We got the Bill's Eagles game.

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Speaker 5: I mean that one. That's a great game.

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Speaker 1: Albert Brer earlier today, let's just give you an update.

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh denies the riff that the story reported out

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Speaker 1: of the Baltimore Sun with Lamar Jackson. Here's Albert on

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Speaker 1: Lamar looking ahead.

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Speaker 3: My experience has been that John Harbaugh has been one

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Speaker 3: of the most ardent defenders of Lamar.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That anything's broken there, but things have certainly gotten wonky.

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Speaker 3: And we are at a point now where we're going

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Speaker 3: to be talking about these things contractually, his cap hits

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Speaker 3: the next two years or seventy four and a half

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Speaker 3: million dollars.

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Speaker 4: He's got two years left on his deal.

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Speaker 3: I think Joe Lamar Jackson is a Baltimore Raven in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. But this definitely feels like, after the

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Speaker 3: expectation they had internally for where the team was going

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Speaker 3: to be going into the year, that there could be

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Speaker 3: some pretty big changes coming in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting either way. Good week, next week,

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Speaker 1: we've got New Year's we got bowl games, well, the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff. You know, it's so funny to watch

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Speaker 1: college football now. The bowl games now suddenly irrelevant, the

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Speaker 1: conference championship games under some real debate. USC Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: USC is like, well, play week zero, We're not going

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Speaker 1: to play you, and everybody's freaking out. Yet, the ratings

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Speaker 1: in the attendance every time I turn on a big

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Speaker 1: college game, pack stadium tickets aren't cheap. Ratings going through

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Speaker 1: the roof college football. Wall Street Journal had a story

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Speaker 1: on it this week. It's a mess, it's chaos, but

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful mess, and a popular mess and an

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Speaker 1: ascending mess. Put a mess be say first things first, Next,