1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: dot com, the Radio, plus Globo Lab and on your radio. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Cowery and Bloomberg Taking Stock is brought to 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: you by the American Arbitration Association, International Trade or Business 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Dispute Resolve it Faster with the International Center for Dispute Resolution, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the Leader and alter an alternative dispute resolution around the world. 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: I see dr dot org. Well Stocks are starting a 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: new month with games, Banks are rebounding, and Amazon is 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: rallying for a second day after it's better than estimated earnings. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo and JP Morgan Chase are up one percent, 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Haliburton is rallying, and Baker Hughes is declining after those 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: two ditch their twenty eight billion dollar merger. Energy producers 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: are slipping along with the price of oil. We checked 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: the markets every fifteen Minutestal industrial leverage is currently of 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: one nine points six tents of a percent, creating at 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand, eight hundred eighty two. Smp F I founded 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: up fourteen points two thirds of a percent to two 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: thousand seventy nine, and as ZAC is up twenty nine 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: point six tents of a percent at forty eight oh 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: four less. Texas intermediate crude oil down a dollar three 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: of barrel two point two percent to forty eight nine. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Spot gold is up a dollar forty announced at twelve nine, 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: and the Tenure Treasury down eight thirty seconds with the 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: yield of one point eight six percent. And that's a 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash. He's taking stock with Kathleen Hayes and 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Grim Box on Bloomberg Radio. Economic activity in the manufacturing sector, 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: What is it all about and what's happening? That's why 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: we have Brad Holcomb. He is the chairman of the 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Institute for Supply Management. Joining us from Tempe, Arizona. Brat Holcomb, 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Thanks for being with us, well, thanks 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: for having me, all right, So give us the lowdown 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: on economic activity in the manufacturing sector for April. What happened, Well, 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the p m I came in at fifty point a 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: growing for the second consecutive month. We like that because 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: if there's been six prior months of fifty or below fifty, 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: so two months in a row of growth is certainly 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: good news. And New orders and production are also growing, 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: with fifteen of our eighteen industries reporting growth in those 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: two categories new orders and production, even though their indexes 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: are slightly down. All right, So that's the new orders 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: and production. I want to get more into that, but 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: first I want to get your thoughts on what energy 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: and the collapse and energy prices. How does that read 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: out of the I s M report. Well, let's go 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: right to our prices index SAM. It's up seven and 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: a half percentage points UH to fifty nine. That's two 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: consecutive months of price increases following about a year and 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: a half of price decreases, largely if not entirely, owing 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: to the oil complex. So going in the in the 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: right direction at er sort of deflationary prices, I think 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: is the right thing. That's certainly reflected in our list 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: of commodities up in price, which includes several of the 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: medals as well as plastics that relate to oil demand, 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: global demand particularly and relate that to the value of 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: the US dollar force. Yes, exports meaning exports of finished goods, 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: is at fifty two and a half nicely, about fifty 58 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: up a half a point from last month. That factors 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: into the new orders, which I discussed briefly, that's at 60 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: fifty five eight, down two and a half overall. But nevertheless, 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: fifty five point eight is good. I think the price 62 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: of the dollar is certainly helping our exports, uh, in 63 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: that the prices dollar has attenuated to some degree. And 64 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: also I think there's some pent up demand from some 65 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: prior softness in prior months. Our company cutting inventories. Yes, 66 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: they're continuing to follow a lean, conservative inventory of raw 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: materials policy. Uh. Forty five point five is the index 68 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: number down a point and a half, contracting now for 69 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: ten consecutive months. We saw in our December forecast that 70 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: that was going to be a policy to watch. And 71 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: it alone, that is inventories is pulling down the p 72 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: m I more so than any other. The direct indexes 73 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: tell us about some of the anecdotal evidence that you're 74 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: hearing from the respondents of the survey. Let's start off, 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: if we can with the computer and electronics industry. UH. 76 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: This has to do UM with I guess demand. Is 77 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: there enough demand out there well from the computer electronics products? 78 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: Are specific comment is about oil prices, and while it 79 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: says well, oil prices have recovered slightly. The industry is 80 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: whole continuous to historically struggle greatly, which which we all 81 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: know about now. Computer and electronics happens to be the 82 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: largest of the eighteen industries that we follow, and petroleum 83 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: and coal products is the fourth largest. So we're talking 84 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: about big industries and the price of oils certainly have 85 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: having a broad impact. I note also that we're talking 86 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: about paper products later on in the program because of 87 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: the news from International paper. I wonder if you could 88 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about paper and wood products. 89 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Is also wood products has to do with housing. Yeah, 90 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Starting with wood products, our last comment listed is that 91 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: the market is is starting to pick up as expected 92 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: um and that could be certainly a time of year 93 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: type of common for wood products. Then from printing and 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: related the comment is activity increasing as we moved to 95 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: our busiest season. So things are moving in the right 96 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: direction for those two industreets. And to tell us a 97 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: little bit about those commodities that have moved up in price, 98 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: particularly steel, what's going on with steel prices? Yeah, steel 99 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: prices are going up for the fourth consecutive months. That 100 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: is steal specifically. Also we've got stainless steel coal rolled 101 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: hot rolled steel as well. That relates to the price 102 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: of oil and the amount of energy that it takes 103 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: to produce steel, as well as the other metals on 104 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the list, and that includes aluminum and copper. And the 105 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: backlog of orders and what does that tell us about 106 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: the future. The backlog is growing for the second consecutive 107 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: months at at fifty point five. That's good because production 108 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: has not quite been able to keep up with both 109 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: new orders and sort of seasoned orders, if you will. 110 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: So it's a positive and sets us up as well 111 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: as these other indirectors, I think, for more of the 112 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: same looking forward in the short term. And finally, Brad 113 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Holcomb tell me about buying policies capital expenditures. How's that 114 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: doing capital expenditures that we talked about. The time frames 115 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: that it takes to order capital expenditures a hundred and 116 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: twenty days to get to your order on average. That's 117 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: down from a hundred and one so on far, but 118 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: a little bit tight. Thank you very much. Brad Holcomb, Chairman, 119 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Institute for Supply Management, joining us from Tempe, Arizona. You're 120 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: listening to taking Stock on Bloomberg Radio. Coming up on 121 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: taking stock. Neither snow nor rain can stay these couriers 122 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: from the accomplishment of their task. We're talking about the 123 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: US post Office. That's next on taking stock bloom