1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Yet to ask you a question. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Real, let's just keep it real, straight shot with no chasing. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a little bit ruptured. I'm here for it. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: Those who really believed in the American process, all of 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: us Street Shot, No Chase with your girl Tesslom figure 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: out on the Black Effect podcasting network forbody Tenslim figure 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: out here in the Building, another episode of straight Shot, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: No Chaser. Excited, uh, because I always excited to have Marcellus, 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: who'll be working so hard, like he say, just so 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: that Marcella's but I get to have my baby big 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: sister because she ain't like she twelve, but my baby sister, 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: Michelle Wadley in the building. I told her to come 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: come on and chop it up with us, and so 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: she's I'm honored that she decided to take some time, 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: you know, the kind of choplo women by politics. 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: So hello Michelle and Marcellus. 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Hello, I don't know how you. I don't know what 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: to feel about that being honored and that is that 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: a set up for the downfall? 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Here came up have your presence. 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 3: Later she fluffed me before she asks me, and it's okay, 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: I'm gonna happen to be here. 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Damn, where's the trust? I can't even honor. 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: This is experience. I got experience. I just got experience. 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Experience. That's right now. 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm abouing to be honorable and respectful. But okay, final 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: lyt's get to a da. 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: Money. 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: You failed, but I'm here for it. Effort. 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: Well, I brought Michelle long because those who don't know 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Michelle and I, I've been trying to get rid of 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: her for now. 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Over ten years. 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: And we met on the Bernie Sanders campaign, and for real, 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: y'all really been trying to. 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Get rid of Michelle. 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: Like, for real, I ain't going nowhere. I'm like baby's kids, 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: I don't die, I multiply, I'm. 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Not going No, don't coll grimlin. I really I told 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: her to begin. I don't do new friends. I don't 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: just let's just do the campaign. 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Let's just move for it. 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: She insisted, stay consistent, and so she just really became 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: a very very important person in my life for real. 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: So we lived together on the Bernie Sanders campaign. We 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: met each other right out the gate, you know, like 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: for the first time. I'm just like, if you go 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: to college or go to the military, we met up, like, hey, 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna be living together, you know, pick me up 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: at the airport, and uh, we've been just rocking ever since. 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: And so you fag when you. 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: Mean like y'all roommate it for real? 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: When we worked on the African American Outreach team for 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, Bernard as I don't know, I'd. 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: Like to call him. 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, when nobody knew who Bernard was. I 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: will never forget this of the story forever, because when 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: my ex husband dropped me out at the airport, he 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: was like, seem like you just wasting your time. Now 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: who you say you want to work with? I was like, 62 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, Bernie Sanders, the one with the gray hair, 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: the one that like that's literally. 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: How we would have to introduce in the people people 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: didn't know, that's right. We literally be like, you know, 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: the old man, the guy that dah dah dah. You 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: know Michelle be on Snapchat or Instagram going live every 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: day and saying, yeah, I'm up from the Bernard or 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: like she said, the Bernie campaign, and they'd be like, 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: who's Bernie and she would have to say, yeah, you know, 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: the older guy, da da Da. So we were the 72 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: original Olg's, negro OG's or the Bernie Sanders campaign on 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: the national level that many people you know, volunteered on 74 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: the local level all that, but our campaign was about 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: ten of us. 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I guess Michelle and I were only two women, yes. 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: And they had us all meet up in Atlanta and 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 2: live in some airbnbs. So Michelle was my roommate and 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: she picked them up at the airport. So no, yeah, 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: we literally lived together. Like we would go be on 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: the road for like two three weeks at a time, 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: and then go back home for a week and then 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: come back. So at that time, one weekend I would 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: go see Jada with at that time, when was that 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: ten years ago, so seven seven or eight at that time, 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: and then the following week I would go see my mom, 87 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: who was on chemo at that time. 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: Would cancer I talk about a lot. Yeah, So I 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: rotated at that time. 90 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: Actually when I got my iPhone for the first time, 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: because I want to be able to FaceTime you know, 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: my mom and Jada, and so Michelle and I lived 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 2: together over that time. So we would travel from place 94 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: to place. And this is why I talk to shit. 95 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: I do Marcella's like we literally would go to a 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: new city, nobody knowing nothing about who Bernie Sanders is, 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: nobody knowing nothing about whatever, and they say, hey, we 98 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: got three days to build up and our office, go 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: find a black people. 100 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Yes. 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: And when we say build up a office, I mean literally, 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: you know, like, okay, get office space. You know this 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: office space we're reporting to. How do we find black people? 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: Okay? Where are the churches that we need to go 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: meet with? Who call? Where are the barbershops were? 106 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: You know, like literally just drop down in a city 107 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: that you know nothing about and your job was to 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: do black outreach. 109 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: You want to chime in on that and explain something, Marcella, 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean. 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's even if you got a day's notice, you'd 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: be on the road. I'd be on the road in 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: the middle afternoon, be told I had a flight to Colorado, 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: a flight to kids in the city, a flight to 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: New York, a flight toever And I was expected to 116 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: come in, like Tess said, we were expected to come 117 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: in and build up an entire operation in a matter 118 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: of you know, essentially ours who are the black elected officials, 119 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: who are the black community leaders? 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: And you got to figure that out on the fly. 121 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: So and for a candidate that, again that you described 122 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: as the old guy, you know that in this you know, 123 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: with the gray hair, like no one knew who he was. 124 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: And even if you explained what he stood for, a 125 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: lot of the progressive tenants that Bernard Stoff for were 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 3: not tenants that black people were for. And so you 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: only not only had you did you have to introduce 128 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: the candidate, you had to explain his campaign platforms and 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: then explain why they would be beneficial to black folks. 130 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: And so. 131 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Having TZ on that campaign, I would not have survived 132 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: that campaign without TZ. And when we met, it was 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 3: just something that clicked. I remember we were working with 134 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: doctor West. He asked us, said what way? He said, 135 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: how long y'all been friends? How long y'all known each other? 136 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: And I think we said a week. We had only 137 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: known each other for a week, And I remember it 138 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: being surprised the week y'all I would have thought y'all 139 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: known each other for years. I mean, there was just 140 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: something about Tedz that resonated. We had a situation very 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: early on where you know, it was a crossroad for 142 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 3: me and she told me, Hey, this is what's gonna happen. 143 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: This is what you can expect. You know, choose your side, 144 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: and I can attribute to choosing the right side, which 145 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: is let me go ahead. 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: Nice. 147 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: She'd being nice about it. I told her they're gonna 148 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: try to set you up and work against me. 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: That's what I really told her about hours. 150 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna try to set you up. They're gonna 151 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: try to get you to go against him. Michelle, She's like, 152 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: what are you talking about. I said, don't worry. You're 153 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: gonna see twenty four to forty hours. And that's exactly 154 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: what happened. And I just know that it has happened 155 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 2: every time. It's always happened in the military, on jobs 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 2: or whatever. 157 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: But it always is. 158 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: They always try to figure out a way to get 159 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: the female against me. And Michelle decided to bet on 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Tels and guess what she bet right? You know, ten 161 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: ten plus years later, she's being diplomatic, and she's more 162 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: diplomatic than me. 163 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: I want the people to know exactly what it is. Well, 164 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: let me ask you thou let me. 165 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Say this one hold and think about that question. I 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: hold it. I want to piggyback on. Michelle said, not 167 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: only did people under it was more than even explaining 168 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: what progresses, what policies were beneficial black people, people that 169 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: know what progressive movement was. So that's why I'm not live. 170 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: When I was explaining about the progressive movement and why 171 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: I take issue, we're not really take issue, but kind 172 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: of shut down people. 173 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Who want to argue me back. 174 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm telling you what it was like on the front 175 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: end of the movement itself. Now, people may have used 176 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: progressive many times before. 177 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a student of history in 178 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: that way. 179 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if the word was used 180 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: back in nineteen sixty five, So don't nobody sent no email. 181 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: Progressive was first used in nineteen seventy. 182 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: I'm saying, in our era, you know, our generation, you know, 183 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: this movement of the Obama I'm counting from Obama to now. 184 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: The progressive movement came alive with Bernie Sanders. So everything 185 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: as far as what is a ressive, what is progressive 186 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: policies and what you know, even the debate that exists today, 187 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: are you really a socialist? 188 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Are you a progressive? What is the progressive movement? 189 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: This massive popular which now is one of the most 190 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: popular senators in the country. This massive, you know storm 191 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: if you will, of just excitement around Bernie Sanders. We 192 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: were the only black people literally who were responsible for 193 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: that as far as black outreach was concerned. 194 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I take credit even for the white stuff because we 195 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: all had to play a part in it. 196 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: But particularly with black people and the surrogance that you 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: knew the first ones that started out Nina Turner, Killer, 198 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: Mike Sean King, King later in twenty twenty, but in 199 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, it really was just us and doctor West. 200 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: So what I'm telling y'all that I'm telling you what 201 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: it was like in the room at the beginning of 202 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: this making these decisions on what is black outreach and 203 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: what should that look like and how much should be 204 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: invest I'm telling you what was going on, you know, 205 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: in those conversations that l on the on the onset right. 206 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: What was your question, Marcellis, Oh, I was just going 207 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: to ask, uh, what made. 208 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: I guess y'all can answer an individual with what made 209 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: j'all want to work on Bernie Senators campaign? I'll let 210 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: you go first. 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: Uh. For me, at the time, I was really looking 212 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: for the campaign experience and the opportunity to work on 213 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: a campaign at that level I had completed. I think 214 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: someone talked about one of your lives earlier tis the 215 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: Congressional Black caucas Blue Camp. I had done that work. 216 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: I had worked on campaigns at the local and state 217 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: level and was looking for an opportunity to advance my 218 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: skill set. And I had actually tried to work on 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: various campaigns and found that my work with the Congressional 220 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: Black Caucus in that training provided an opportunity for me 221 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: to work on the Sanders campaign. I was I was 222 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: like Tenzo, had the same experience with people questioning why 223 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: would I go and do that. At the time, I 224 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: was working for the Secretary of State and he was 225 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: running for US Senate, and so people would ask, you know, 226 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: why would you go work for this guy that nobody 227 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: knows instead of working for the guy that's running for 228 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: senate in your home state. 229 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: But I just felt. 230 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: When I looked at the you know, the timeline and 231 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: the opportunity made more sense to get the presidential campaign experience. 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: M gotcha. 233 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: My as a real sympol I was Nina Turner, Senator 234 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: Nina Turner, then director of Communications, and I had been 235 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: for years and so when she left the Hillary campaign 236 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: as one of the women surrogans, not really visible, but 237 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: you know, one of the many. They had hundreds, and 238 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: she decided to go to the Bernie Sander campaign. 239 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: She brought me with her. It's very simple. 240 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: It was not because I gave I cared about Bernard 241 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: or that I was a socialist, because I was not. 242 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: I make this sentertorn. You know, you've heard her tell 243 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: this story publicly Marcella's you know, when I went in 244 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: to what was a guest allegedly an interview and they 245 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: were like, well, you know, you got to support Bernie, 246 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm here for Nina, So that 247 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: doesn't work for you. I don't know to tell you. 248 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: And even Nina said, she says she's never seen anybody 249 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: do that. She talks about this live. She's like, I've never. 250 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: Seen a figure. Oh you got to get the job. 251 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: You got to say. I said, I don't do that. 252 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't just say whatever to get the job. Because 253 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: you said I don't give a damn about the job 254 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: job because I didn't. 255 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: And let's also want I want to be very clear 256 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: why that was so strange to her, because I was 257 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: the only mother on that campaign. Female wise, I think 258 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: a couple of guys may have had some kids. I'm 259 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: not sure, but it's from what I can remember, I 260 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: was the only parent and I just put it I 261 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: did not have a job. I just put it in 262 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: an application at Kroger for real, you know, in my one. 263 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: But I just moved to Houston. 264 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: The job didn't work out. I said, like I say 265 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: every year, I'm done with this. I'm getting out of this. 266 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: It's like something gonna break, something gonna break. And I 267 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: was getting ready to start sacking groceries for real, and 268 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Nina Turners like, oh, I just got this opportunity. 269 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, should I go to the Bernie Sands campaign. 270 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: I've always been in advisit of her on what she 271 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: should and shouldn't I do, and always just worked with 272 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: her on whatever project she had, so she brought me along. 273 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: So she was thinking, like most humans, you don't say 274 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: whatever to get the job. 275 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: At least you know. 276 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: Get the job, you need the job. You literally have 277 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: a seven year old and a mama died with cancer. 278 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Get the job. This is again, this is not bragging. 279 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: It's just making the distinction, Michelle, between me and them, 280 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: As you know I do all the time. 281 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Even when the pressure was on. 282 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Even when it made total sense to just say whatever 283 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: to get the job, I was not gonna do that. 284 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: I was totally okay with Ubrin. I was totally okay 285 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: with sacking groceries. It need be because I knew that 286 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: there was going to become a time well, my loyalty 287 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: would be tested. And I am a very loyal person. 288 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: Anybody knows me knows I am very loyal, yep. And 289 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: that is one thing I do not compromise as my loyalty. 290 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: And that time did come several times on the campaign, 291 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: several several times, even when I have my fall out 292 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: with Bernie. Never ever would I go against Nina, you 293 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: know what I mean. No matter what, we can have our. 294 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Fallouts, whatever it is. 295 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: So I know that loyalty is going to knock at 296 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: the door at some point, and what are you going 297 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: to choose? So why would I even set myself up 298 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: to be in a situation when I know that more 299 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: than likely I'm not going to choose the direction you 300 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: want me to go in. So let's just save everybody 301 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: in trouble and let me just tell you the truth 302 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: from the outset, yep, from the now set. And that's just 303 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: something you don't see a lot of people do. It's 304 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: not as I say that again, not to brag, but 305 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: to show you what it looks like Michelle not do 306 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: this work. We're doing this work over ten years together. 307 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: We're always pushing each other. It's not to say you 308 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: should do this. You know Michelle, like she said, it 309 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: was a great opportunity. She's an awesome operative. I went 310 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: to Congressional Black Caucus too, But again I didn't go 311 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: to the Congressional Black caucas because I was working on 312 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: somebody's campaign. Our experience is very different. She was working 313 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: on somebody's campaign. They sent her to that. Somebody believe 314 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: in her. I just just happened to go Corns and 315 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: Brown was like, you should go. I like the way 316 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: you argue with DoD online. I've never worked for her 317 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: or anybody else. Most people the want you that training 318 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: ourselves with people that worked on campaigns, you know at 319 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: that level or knew somebody. I got in that by accident, 320 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: which is why I cried the whole time with shoes 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: with holes at the bottom of my shoes. So everything 322 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: that I've been in or thrown in has been by 323 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: divine order, and that's why I can stand on it. 324 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: The way I do. 325 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I know that if you 326 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: have me here for this reason, it's for this reason, 327 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: and I truly trust him. I truly believe that what 328 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: for me is for me. 329 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: I truly believe it. It's not up to man, truly do. 330 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: But it doesn't minimize. 331 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Michelle's calling or what God has for her. 332 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things we talk about all 333 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: the time. 334 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: We need people to make the choice, the career choice, 335 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: or the opera choice, you know, or the whatever it is. 336 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: We need people to know, let's a push the lot. 337 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: It is all about right, that's right. Let my experience 338 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: make you question yours, know yours, and stand in that 339 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: and know that neither one of us. 340 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Are minimizing our experience. 341 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: Where we gotta know where we're adding this because the 342 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: sacrifices that I make, I need Michelle. Somebody gotta have 343 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: a damn job. We can't all crash out on the 344 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: job like Marcella's does on a. 345 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: Like nobody got to have a job around it, you 346 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 347 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: Like for real, well what I've heard, because you are 348 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: the big sister I never knew I needed and want 349 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: it so bad, which is why I bet on Test 350 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: and I went about to let you go after that campaign. 351 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: But what I've learned in watching you is for all 352 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 3: of the greatness that you exude and being convicted and 353 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: loyal and all the things that you do, there's a 354 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: price that comes with that, and that is what you 355 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: have to be willing to pay if we're gonna walk 356 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: that walk. And that's why you have to be confident 357 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: in who you are, how you move, and what your 358 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: role is, because while it all looks good on. 359 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: The surface, there's there's a price to be paid for. 360 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: How Test moves. And am I gonna be willing to 361 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: pay that price? And nine times out of tendant to know, 362 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: but there's a price to be paid for keeping a. 363 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: Job, you know, just right right right? 364 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: We just all want to know what when we when 365 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: we get all of our items at the CBS, we 366 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: just want to know what the cost is. 367 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: That's it. 368 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: And my job is to show you what the cost 369 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: is so that way when they print out all the receipts, 370 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: you're not confused. Yes, you're not confused, you know. And 371 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: also you going with that man, you know when you 372 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: go to CB ooh, this is a good one. Speak 373 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: to me God, when you go to CBS and you 374 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: purchase those items, and now I'm getting ready top preciatey'all 375 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: for a moment. 376 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: We ready, girl. 377 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: When you go to those when you go to CBS 378 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: and you get the doctor Pepper, you get whatever it 379 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: is you get. You notice that the receipts they give 380 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: you back may not always necessarily be for more doctor Pepper. 381 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: It's something else that is for you. And so if 382 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: we operate like that, if we think about the receipt 383 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: holder of all receipts, if we think about God and 384 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: our purpose, everything that I'm bringing to the counter, everything 385 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: that I thought I need, he knows that there's something 386 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: else that I need that I wasn't thinking about. 387 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good one. 388 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: He knows that when I scan that item and when 389 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: I say this is what I need, that he also 390 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: says there's something on the back end. Like you just 391 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: heard Michelle the big Sister. I never know I had 392 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: Michelle got eight brothers and sisters. So when you went 393 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: and scanned it, okay, I'm going for this, I got 394 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: something else on the back end. I know you thought 395 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: you needed a doctor Pepper, but you actually need another sister, Teslin. 396 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: I know you a only child and you really really 397 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: don't want those sisters. But I'm gonna give you one anyway. 398 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you somebody to pour into that you 399 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: can actually see, that you can see it blossom, that 400 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: you can see because a lot of the work that 401 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: you do, Tesla, that you ain't gonna see. You're not 402 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: gonna see the fruit that bears that comes from the tree. 403 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you somebody that you can actually 404 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: pour into and actually bear witness to what God has 405 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: called you to do. So when we think about the 406 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: receipts and we think about that, we think about he 407 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: gives us all the things that we need and all 408 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: the things we didn't know we need, and he still 409 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: gives us a cuepop for more, Doctor Pepper, What does 410 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: that mean, Marcellus. 411 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: That means He's gonna bless you tenfold. So even for 412 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: the things that you bring him your gift, I am 413 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: giving you my gift. I'm giving you all I know 414 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: how to do. This is all I have that I'm 415 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: bringing to the King. That song when it say take 416 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: you to the King I played at my mother's funeral. 417 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: I've given you all I have to bring. 418 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: If you visualize that at the CVS and you visualize 419 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: even when you know, you go in the store and 420 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: you don't have the basket, basket, can't find no basket. 421 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: So you're just putting it all in your hand. So 422 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: you need a little bit of this and a little 423 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: bit of that, and you think about that, and you 424 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: think about how God operates in your life. 425 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm giving you all I have to breathe. I don't 426 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: have room for it. 427 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: But the Bible says I'll give you room enough to 428 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: receive then and more some. All he's asked me to do, 429 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: Marcella's is just scan it and put it on the table. 430 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Put with your gift on the table. That's what push 431 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: the line is all about. Put what you have available 432 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: to him and watch him give you tenfold and give 433 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: you more than what you did. 434 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: And I know you need. 435 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: And that's why the words say I'll give you more 436 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: than you have room enough to receive. But we must 437 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: be willing to go in the store. We must be 438 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: willing to go through the sacrifice. We must be willing 439 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: to go out by out. We must be willing to 440 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: stand in the long line. 441 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: That's what Michelle is talking about the consequences that come 442 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: with this. We must be willing to do it. 443 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: You must be willing to hold all oh you can 444 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: hold until your arms are tired, and when your arms 445 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: are tired, like what Moses talks about when Aron lifted 446 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: up Moses's arms and said, when your arms are tired, 447 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: I will lift them up for you. All of these 448 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: things are important if we understand our purpose and in 449 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: our role. It's not for me to turn and look 450 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: at Michelle's basket and say why you got that and 451 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: why I don't have this, and tell them you got 452 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: that gift, and why God didn't give me this. 453 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm Michelle, you got that gift. Why didn't she get 454 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: a Michelle, I've been working on that for ten years 455 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: because it was meant for you to have that. He 456 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: gave you what you had, and my role, my calling, I. 457 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: Believe what God has called me to do, is to 458 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: teach you how to look in your own basket and 459 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: know that everything you have in front of you is worthy, 460 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: it's worthy, and it's important. 461 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: And if it's ten people behind you in the line 462 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: that said it ain't. 463 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: Worth it, it's ten more of me right in front of you, 464 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: saying gone and swipe that thing. Look ahead the Bible, 465 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: say look forward to when that's coming my help. Don't 466 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: worry about what the enemy saying behind you, Harry up, 467 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: what's taking us so long? 468 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Why she's scanning so long? What's taking up? Damn? 469 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: She got the line held up. Don't worry about that. 470 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: Marcella's look ahead, m I sure be preaching, y'all girl. 471 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: Okay, what's his name? 472 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: The Wayne? 473 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: What what your producer? 474 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 475 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: He did some handclouds on that. 476 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't turn this Wednesday, not 477 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 3: Bible study. Yeah, well I'm here for it. 478 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 479 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: When God give me those messages, especially when you can visualize. 480 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: So as I was telling the story, I hope you 481 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: were visualizing it. 482 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: You know. 483 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: Everybody can know what it means to go in the store, 484 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: you know, and the crab things last minute things you 485 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: didn't that you forgot to get. Walk at the store 486 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: all day. I forgot to get this, forgot to get that. 487 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: He knows everything, and we just have to trust him. 488 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: And it's hard to trust when you don't know the 489 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: price of it. 490 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 3: That's it. 491 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: It's hard to trust if I don't know if I'm 492 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: aawipe my credit card. Do I have enough on the 493 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: balance that's it? 494 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: Is there something else in me? Because I don't think 495 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: I have nothing left right now. You're going through something 496 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: in your life with the people that can hear me 497 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: with sound of my voice, going through something that you 498 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: just literally don't know if you have something that. Is 499 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: there anything left on the credit card that can Can I. 500 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: Hold something else? Yes? Yes, you know what I mean. 501 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: People say, well, he give you something, you know, they 502 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: always say, he don't give you more than you can 503 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: bear it. No, because there's a lot of people that 504 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: come in suicide, so a lot of people that can't 505 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: bear it, so a lot of people that overdraft. We 506 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: can't just assume that somebody can bear it. No, Sometime 507 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: I just can't bear it. Sometime I need another credit line, 508 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: that's right. Sometimes I need a little bit of extra 509 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: little overdraft protection. See a little bit of overdraft protection. 510 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: Come on now, and this is where you be a relationship. 511 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: But I'm also very careful with who I build relationship with. 512 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 2: And that's why when I tell them shell, no, everybody 513 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: don't just get to come in my life. That overdraft 514 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: protection I need is real. You got access to breaking 515 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: the bank. It's one thing to be in the comments 516 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: sation another when you in my life. Well, now I'm 517 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: vulnerable to you. So show up how I need you 518 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: to show up. And it may not be what I 519 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: find with people with me, they think you don't need 520 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: to show up in the way you think you need 521 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: to show up with me. Show up in the way 522 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: that I need you to show up. And it may 523 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: not be what you think. 524 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 525 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: It may not be money, it may not be a word, 526 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: it may not be whatever. It just might be testing 527 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm here. However, you need me to show up, that's it. 528 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: Michelle and I worked on that a lot because she 529 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: would be like, well, I want to be even and 530 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: give you what your girl. You can't give me what 531 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: I give you. And that's why I'm the big sister. 532 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a train wreck. 533 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: And why they have that. 534 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: Same conversation with my sister. Believe me, just a few 535 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: months ago and I was having I was saying, ooh my, 536 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: this is what Tess was talking about. 537 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what's your mean? And we struggle with that. 538 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: Even with men especial men in my life, they can't 539 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: the gift the feminine. You know, the male female interrupts 540 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: a lot of times the gifts. Yes, God is operating 541 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: in me, not gender, you know what I mean. He's operating. 542 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: He sent you a comforter. But because of the male 543 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: gender role, you can't get past you know what I mean. 544 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: Sometime they can't get passed. No, he just sent you 545 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: a comfort. I know it's disturbing for me to be 546 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: right about a lot. 547 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: It's disturbing to me. I don't want to be right. 548 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm not right about everything. 549 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: But there is something about prophecy, gift of prophecy and 550 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: discernment and saying things and calling things out. And that's 551 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: why when I y'all know, I share stuff with you 552 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: all the time, I told you all this was gonna happen. 553 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: I told y'all it's not because I'm needing somebody to 554 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: help me keep score. It's because I want you to 555 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: know that when when you're tuned in and you're listening 556 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 2: to God and have more here can show you certain things. 557 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: If you tap in right, you don't have to go 558 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: along to get along. 559 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: That's right, and it's it's again, it's rare to see 560 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: that in people, to see people move that way, and 561 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: I think that's what either draws people to you or 562 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: becomes a challenge. It's one thing to say I'm loyal. 563 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: It's another to turn down a job when you need 564 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: a job to show that you're loyal, like to show 565 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: what that actually looks like. 566 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: Right, And if we just continue to trust you know, 567 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: I'll say this before we close out. I was gonna 568 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: talk about but this was so good, so I know 569 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: to have you on, I just let the spirit move. 570 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: I want to talk about progressives and outreach and all 571 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, but it just kind of goes 572 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: back to trusting him. You know. I went viral last 573 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: week and whatever that means to go viral, but the 574 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Shade Room definitely you would consider viral. 575 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: Yes, So look, let's just call it what it is. 576 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: And it's so interesting because I did not want to 577 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: do that hit that day, as you know, and Marcella's 578 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, because y'all work with me, Box called me 579 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: all the time and I'd just be like, hell whatever, yep, 580 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: And this one particular day, I was, honestly, and I 581 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: probably still got them the text. I was like, oh 582 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: hold up, wait a minute, my schedule got overbooked. It 583 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: really didn't get over booked. PoTA did being and I 584 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: was gonna put because she was like and as y'all know, 585 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: they don't give me the topics per se. You know, 586 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh, can you come on to night? Yep, 587 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm in whatever city. Then they tell me what for? 588 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: They just won me on and then I was like, 589 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: oh what I said. I was like, I don't feel 590 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: like gonna talk about that. I'm so tired talking about this. 591 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, let me go. And 592 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: I just wanted to move that day and I said, well, 593 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: let me just go on and go do it. But 594 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: it's just it's always just to show like when you're 595 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 2: just sobedient and just do what you're supposed to do. 596 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: One of the reasons that Fox has been so exhausting 597 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 2: to do is because there has not been support. And 598 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: you know this Frochelle and yeah, so you definitely know this. 599 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: And it's never been about the support because if it 600 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: wasn't would have stopped a long time ago. Because there 601 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: hasn't been any support, meaning the mass is overall like 602 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: some people know I do it, but really people don't. 603 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: Outside of Charlemagne killing Mike even being crumb don't share 604 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 2: my Fox commentary. But outside of that, no, people don't know, 605 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: like consistent, because you gotta realize because even though y'all 606 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: be thinking everybody know on Marsett, they don't know. No, 607 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: everybody dos on Marset. They don't know a NONPARTI sand me, 608 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: no Marcella's people. People have to see things like over 609 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over in the algorithms. 610 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: You know. It's like I can post something about the 611 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: training and somebody said, oh, I never said, even though 612 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: I posted ten times a day. 613 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: Everybody don't know what I do with Fox. Even everybody 614 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: everybody follows me don't know. They don't know I'm a revoked. 615 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: They know I've been on the repens CAUP, they don't know. 616 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: It takes a lot to get that out. So it's 617 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: never been a massive amount of support. In fact, it's 618 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: been ostracized. I've been canceled, I've lost contracts as a result. Yes, 619 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: I'll never forget. Yeah, and that's a fact. Jord Reed 620 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: called me when I went on Fox and said I 621 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: can't believe you over there, And I probably still got 622 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: the text because I keep my texts fever. But when 623 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: she said I can't leave you over there with Fox. 624 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Please don't tell me over there talking to them. Worst 625 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: career decision you made, da da and called me on 626 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: the phone to tell me, and I was like, but 627 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm over here speaking black people. 628 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Da da da da. It don't matter. 629 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: You don't need to get in bed with them, Da 630 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: da da. So to have her be the one to 631 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: share it, which is what the Shade Room ultimately shared. 632 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: Her company just supposed to show you, Michelle, because you 633 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: saw this in real time that when you say, consistent 634 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: on what it is you're supposed to do, because it 635 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: ain't about Jorge read if somebody came in, it's about 636 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: God showing up to say she wasn't my enemy, but 637 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm just using the enemy to be your footstool. That 638 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: even those who were against what you were doing, and 639 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: you know I'm Michelle. My favorite scripture Revelations three twelve, 640 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: where I say. 641 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: They will know it was you. 642 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: It was me the whole time I put the crown. 643 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: It was me all alone. Yes, you will never ignore it. 644 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: It's those moments. And Joey may not even remember her 645 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: doing that. I think she do, and I think that 646 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: was her way of being supportive. 647 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm grateful that she did, not because 648 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: of the Shade Room, but just to show, like a 649 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Michelle's somebody in my life like them, I said, you 650 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: know the close people that follow me or you don't 651 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: know my work, just to show y'all that God really 652 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: do got it. Yes, he really got it. He really do. 653 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't give a shit about being popular. 654 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't care about that, y'all know. Hey, if it 655 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: ain't about training, I ain't with it. 656 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Yep, I don't care about none of this. 657 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: But every now and then he liked to show up 658 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: to say, yeah, I got it, I got you just 659 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: know I am the ultimate Shade Room. 660 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I am the one. 661 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: So those who didn't support, even if the reasons were 662 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: not to benefit me, because you gotta know that too, 663 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't it does. I don't know her genuine reason. 664 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: It could be they just like talking about Fox News. 665 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: I know, Shade Room just wanted to show joy talking 666 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: shit about Fox you know, like, I'm not confused. Never 667 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: drink your on kool aid, don't get confused. So that's 668 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: where a lot of people crash out. They think it 669 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: becomes about them. However, it got manipulated for it to happen. 670 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: Not my concern. My concern is letting those of you 671 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: that rock with me know that in the end and 672 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, stay consistent on who 673 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: you are. Continue to do with God's call you dude, 674 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: even people tell you it don't make no sense on. 675 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: This Da da da da da. Continue to be consistent 676 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, these same people said 677 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: never go to Fox, we don't need to. 678 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: They're now realizing you cannot continue to talk to your 679 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: own choir. 680 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: And think you're gonna get anything accomplished. 681 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: That's it, Like you said, be obedient. That being obedient 682 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: is is like you said, Keith, and your obedient consistent 683 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: do what you're supposed to do. God shows up. 684 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: He does, and he and with me, and he has 685 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: to show up for me, like real bold like that, y'all. 686 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't have. 687 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: I do have people that I admire, but I don't 688 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: have like a big sister like Michelle got me. 689 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Is like I don't have a I do have peers, you. 690 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: Know, I talk to Michelle, workshop stuff out, best friend, prayer. 691 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: You know, I got peers, but I don't necessarily have 692 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: a go to. 693 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a teslum from Tesslim right. 694 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: So, and I walk in soul divine order in some 695 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 2: things because I do things that most people don't, I 696 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: have to have a different I gotta have the burning 697 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: bush like literally, you know what I mean, Like I 698 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: gotta like if I'm like man Marcelle's I'm done. It's 699 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: great hear marce Marcela saying no, God, I got something 700 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: mess for you, But I. 701 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Gotta it don't work like that. 702 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: It gotta be like that's good to hear, but I 703 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: gotta something gotta line up, you know what I mean, 704 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: Like he gotta be you gotta make. 705 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: It real clear. 706 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: Because whatever it is he has for me to endure 707 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: requires that level of confidence. Like Michelle said, I can't 708 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: waiver on it. I can't question. Was Michelle Wright about 709 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: this or was marcell'es right back there? 710 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 711 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: He has to give me a whole armor, you know, 712 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: of clarity on how I'm moving. I'll say this before 713 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 2: I go, And Michelle, you should watch this, you know, 714 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: Barbara Watchers great documentary on Hulu. 715 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's on my watch list. 716 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you always gonna watch list. But you never watch it. 717 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: You know you. 718 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: Got word some Marceill, well, at least myself, don't lie 719 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: about it. He said he ain't watching it, watching it, 720 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: it ain't shame about it. And just as another one, 721 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: mind that Marcello's has never watched the color purpose. 722 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: Of watch It just takes me a while. 723 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: But it is on my watch list. 724 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: Gary, you got about fifty things. You always those on 725 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: my watch list. But Oprah was talking about it was 726 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: one of those. I watched it not to get a spoiler, 727 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: but she was saying she knew she could not be both. 728 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: She could not be a good mother and be Oprah. 729 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: And she's right. 730 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: Contrary to Marcellis's belief, being a parent is more than 731 00:34:53,400 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: getting a tax refund y'all get them refunds, though what 732 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: don't And I don't show you what I got faith 733 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: being a parent, reponds one you around. 734 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: So network is amazing. Look an text the Dutchess. 735 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: But we ain't gonna talk about that. 736 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: We ain't gonna make up get text. You know somebody 737 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: don't really somebody. 738 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: Marcella's heard over that it's a lot of parents behind 739 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: this up, behind. 740 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: These sex rep. 741 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: So I watched that and I said, Wow, it makes 742 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: total sense. And as I'm starting my next chapter in 743 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: life older, I do not regret being a mom. And 744 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: I felt even prouder Michelle, because I was like, I 745 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: really made the sacrifice, you know what I mean, Like 746 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: I really Barbara Watcher's daughter, you know, did drugs really 747 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 2: really bad and she was never home and ran away 748 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: and you know she's Barbara Walters, you know, two different 749 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: city and she was more motivated to be Barbara Watchers. 750 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: And I'm just so grateful I never got that, bug. 751 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: I really felt good, like, wow, I never because you know, Michelle, 752 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm like that for real, like I really don't give 753 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: a shit, Like no, you know, you really don't the money, 754 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: the fame or whatever. And I adore like white Lady 755 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: and all like Barbara walk like that's it, you know, 756 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: that's the pennacil of that. But I still don't. I 757 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: never I feel like, Okay, if I'm gonna be Barbara Walters, 758 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna have to be now in this big age, 759 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: you know. And so watching that and watching how she 760 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: started the view at sixty, I left like, Okay, if 761 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: there is something else, and I don't think it's in 762 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 2: this television space. I really really enjoyed training. I felt 763 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: really good about doing. 764 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: That. 765 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: Jada was worth every moment. I am so glad that 766 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 2: I did not have. I never Marcella's one time, and 767 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: that was one point why I had her older. Never 768 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: at one time felt she was in the way or 769 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: stopping me for something. I always know that I would 770 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: do the best that I absolutely could do, you know, 771 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: with the cars I was dealt with, and once she 772 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: went to college, I know, you know, Okay, there's an 773 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: opportunity to do something different, even at this big age. 774 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: And I'm just I just feel really good about that. 775 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: So God just didn't. He didn't He took away the 776 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: desire for material things, the desire for advancement, career advancement. 777 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: But I don't doubt people that have that, you know, Like, 778 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: I think it's great. I want to encourage you to 779 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: ge everywhere. And I think I'm pretty damn ambitious myself, 780 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: to be honest. 781 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: But I would think, so, yeah, look all the things 782 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: that you've done yet that screams ambition. 783 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: It's what I would say that if I was single, 784 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: if I didn't have a kid, I'd be stomping a 785 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: mud hole in y'all. 786 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Ass. That's for sure that I know. 787 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: I think this is where we start to break up. 788 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, can I know, but I but I am 789 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: very grateful, you know, to not even feeling like now 790 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: I got to compare myself to you know, by maybe 791 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: if I didn't have a kid, I did it, you 792 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: know like that. 793 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: That's been the own blessing to watch Jada and her 794 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: little Uh. 795 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: This has been real fun this last sixty days, like 796 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: turning into this little woman overnight. I'm talking to about 797 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: the club and oh wow, who this dad? 798 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh am I really talking about the club. 799 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: And you know, it's just just a lot, but it's exciting. 800 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 2: It's bittersweets, kind of sad, but it's also exciting because 801 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: I would get. 802 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: To mold a little young you know, a young adult. 803 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: You know. 804 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: That's so it's pretty cool in law school and Michelle's 805 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: been a great study partner with me with that, pushing 806 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: Michelle to go get to go into law school as well. 807 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: So guys, I'm just excited about where I am. I 808 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: don't think I'll ever be wealthy, wealthy rich, and I'm 809 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: totally okay with it. People say, don't say that, you 810 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 2: never know no, I'm really cool with I just don't 811 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 2: have the desire. What I ask God for is to 812 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: be able to take care of my family. You know, 813 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 2: I want to be to take care of my family. 814 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: And you know, now Michelle wants she wanted to travel 815 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: all over the world. 816 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: She want to go here, she want to go there. 817 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: I really don't. 818 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: I'm cool with Spirit Airlines. Well not no more because 819 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: they don't have a middle seat. But I'm cool with 820 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: just taking a quick little break, you know, watching Jade 821 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 2: be able to have what she needs when she needs. 822 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: It, and being a resource to y'all. 823 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: And I'm in long winded and talking rambling, but that's 824 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: because podcast family, y'all like family too. 825 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: We just talking like we want a big damn three 826 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: way calls. 827 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: So support y'all, please continue to describe to the podcast. 828 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: Come to the training, guys, because that really is my 829 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: last career stop. It really is like it's truly just 830 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: about the training. That's it, nothing else but about the training. 831 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: Log onto the training. We'll have Michelle tap in from 832 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: time to time. She has a lot of experienced guys 833 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: run as a candidate. When we get done with the 834 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: five core trainings, are going to start rolling out the 835 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: webinars when bring Michelle on to talk about how she 836 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: was successful in sixty days, how you can make an 837 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: impact in sixty days on a campaign. 838 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: A lot of good stuff that we're gonna talk about. 839 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna have Marcello's as a guest speaker on how 840 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: he refused to set up the step and repeat. 841 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: Learn about work in advance. I'm learning and hope he 842 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: never had to set it up beginning. You just set 843 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: it up the first time, So I'm learning like I 844 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: got an excellent team. I appreciate y'all. Thank you Michelle 845 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: for joining us for this podcast. 846 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: You know, I always love having you on the tap in, 847 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: but we really need to have you back because I 848 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: really want to talk about the races. 849 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the money. 850 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk about We just ended up going 851 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: in another direction, but that's the beauty about podcast. Talk 852 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 2: about with the LF I want to talk about and 853 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: shout out to the person in the commentsary, I'm glad 854 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: we getting back to the news, back to the original family. 855 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I decide what we talk about on 856 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: this podcast. So whoever said that lit up welcome home. 857 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: I sit up here for forty five minutes and talk 858 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: about everything but the news, all right, could have found 859 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm the founder beginning in the end, it's gonna be 860 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: what I want to talk about. And sometimes we don't 861 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: want to talk about the news, we want to talk 862 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: about something else. So that's the beauty of the podcast. 863 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: Shy'all shout out to Charlemagne and God and made a 864 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: debating We're gonna definitely keep this going, so appreciate y'all. 865 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 1: Pase pease. 866 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: If you like what you heard on Straight Shot No Chaser, 867 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: please subscribe and drop a five star review and tell 868 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 2: a friend. 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