1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Tess for time, what wait TANSP for co. 2 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: F s may f. 3 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: Of cope for. 4 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Can I can f. 5 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: F side my toy of my. 6 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Fore side, says. 7 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Says Fu Song may so s S nine It is 8 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: for four. 9 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: Yes, this is the crimal scream of a dying Regene. 10 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 5: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 11 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: these people. You're not got a free shot. All these 12 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 5: networks lying about the people. The people have had a 13 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. 14 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: I know you tried to do everything in the world 15 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 16 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: It's going to happen. And where do people like that 17 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: go to share the big line? 18 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Mega media? 19 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 6: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 20 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 6: these people had a conscience. 21 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 5: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 22 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 7: If that answer is to save my country, this country 23 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 7: will be saved. 24 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: War Room. 25 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen k. 26 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: Ban. 27 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 6: It's Thursday, one January in the arver Lord, twenty twenty six, 28 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: the first time we get to say that. Pretty amazing 29 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five Behind this great show yesterday, I want 30 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: to thank everybody associated with it. They wrapped up the year, 31 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 6: and we're starting off with talking about as we always 32 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 6: do on Junior, first do something a little different about 33 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 6: the year ahead and kind of what the focus has 34 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 6: to be and the energy has to be. I know 35 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 6: a lot of people are still getting over last night. 36 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 6: If you still go out and participate that way and 37 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 6: enjoy a h some of it, I guess the traditional 38 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 6: go out and have a party and uh and get 39 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 6: to see folks and ring out the uh, ring out the. 40 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: Old and ringing the new. 41 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 6: Dave Brett joins Ben Harnwell, also in Rome, is going 42 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 6: to be here at momentarily, uh. 43 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 5: Dave Bratt. So first off, Dave, you had a good. 44 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 6: You had a good Christmas, Christmas season and kicking off 45 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 6: the new year right. 46 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 7: Yes, it was great. 47 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 8: I went up to Notre Dame, hung out with you 48 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 8: Catholics and family up there was great And now I'm 49 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 8: back with old lang Zyne. 50 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 7: I wish I was Scottish. 51 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 8: I wore my uh tartan plaid Scottish plaid by accident 52 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 8: must be providential, uh, the Presbyterians in Scotland. 53 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 7: I wish I was Scottish. 54 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 8: I'm Dutch, but yeah, I'm just looking forward to the 55 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 8: new year personal growth just of all the things we love. 56 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 8: We look back on the on the past year and 57 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 8: we just look forward to, you know, just renewing ourselves 58 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 8: and our country and our families and the churches. 59 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 7: Uh, and it's just good, good to reflect. 60 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 61 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 6: No, I think this is the seventh seventh year in 62 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 6: a row. I think we've done this the kickoff of 63 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 6: the new year, and they've had some uh. 64 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: We had a couple of a couple I think with 65 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: very serious talks. I was very serious in a couple 66 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: of these about what was to come before us. 67 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: But everybody in the war and Posse accomplished their their 68 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 6: task and it's the reason that we're we're moving that 69 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 6: everything's moving forward. What talk to me about your personally? 70 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 6: People want to know more about Dave brad new New 71 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 6: Year's resolutions. How do you, in fact, when the year ends, 72 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: how do you take stock? 73 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: Uh? 74 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: And how do you think about the coming year? 75 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 6: And do you do Do you do a spiritual inventory 76 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 6: of of where you've been and where you're going or 77 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 6: you do one just from the practical my to do 78 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 6: list and what I want to accomplish. How does Dave 79 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 6: Brett go about this. Inquiring minds want to know. 80 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, why I just kind of I try to 81 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 7: pray all day. 82 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 8: You know, you're supposed to pray without ceasing, and you know, 83 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 8: I start off, I listened to the Bible on the 84 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 8: way into school. 85 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 7: I recommend everybody should get a Bible app I was 86 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 7: listened to. I listened to Job. I learned something new 87 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 7: about job. 88 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 8: I got a smart friend up here that taught me 89 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 8: something about job and then went us straight into Psalms. 90 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 8: And if you've never just listened to the Psalms, I mean, 91 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 8: you just can't beat it. I don't think we do 92 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 8: a good enough job worshiping God, right. We're always asking 93 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 8: God for stuff and asking God to save the country 94 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 8: and our schools and the kids and all that. 95 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 7: But I don't think we do enough. 96 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 8: So that that's kind of one thing I'm trying to 97 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 8: push myself. How do I, you know, praise God and 98 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 8: give that that's why we're on the earth. According to 99 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 8: the Protestant Catechism and the Catholic Baltimore what's the chief 100 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 8: and demand, it's it's the chief question, what's the why 101 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 8: are we on the planet? And it's to praise and 102 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 8: glorify God, and so you know, you just want to 103 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 8: do that constantly, and then you know you want to 104 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 8: kind of ingrain it so it's not just the Sunday faith. 105 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 8: What am I doing on this earth that that matters 106 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 8: in the war room, Polse, I really don't need to 107 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 8: preach to the choir there. But you know, the one 108 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 8: thing everyone here can do is spread this platform to 109 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 8: your friends because you, as. 110 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 7: You've seen over the past. 111 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 8: Week on the war room, we have major challenges all 112 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 8: over the globe and more importantly internally, and so you. 113 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 7: Know, just think how has God put you? What what 114 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 7: gifts has God given you? 115 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 8: Where you can make your difference and then encourage others 116 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 8: because we need everyone on board. 117 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 7: Right. That's what the church is, all different parts of 118 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 7: the body working together. 119 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: You say, pray with out ceasing. 120 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 6: Is is your concept or what you're taught in your 121 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 6: in the Presbyterian Church, your your your sect or part 122 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 6: of the Presbyterian Church? That is that there you're worshiping 123 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 6: God throughout the day. Or is your work and your 124 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 6: effort to move forward His plan as as it's manifesting 125 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 6: through you? 126 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 5: Is is that is that your work and is that 127 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 5: good enough. 128 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, nothing's good enough by even Jesus said, well why 129 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 8: do you call me good? Only Father in Heaven is good. 130 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 8: So boy, there's a statement that puts us all in 131 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 8: our place. 132 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 133 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 8: But yeah, no, it's you know, it just means to 134 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 8: have your soul geared right, your consciousness, your soul, your heart. 135 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 7: All aligned toward God all day. 136 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 9: Now. 137 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 7: Of course no one does that, right, It's all about me. 138 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 8: It's the me generation, Me, me, me, And so everyone 139 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 8: of course thinks about their own personal advancement. How you 140 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 8: can make yourself look good, and how to wear your 141 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 8: tartan vest on TV and these kind of superficial things 142 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 8: that don't matter. But yeah, I mean if I if 143 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 8: I look back in my life, you know, kureky guard 144 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 8: I think said, you can see your your life in 145 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 8: the past. 146 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 7: You know, you look, we're looking forward in the new year. 147 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 8: Uh, but you can see the meaning of your life 148 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 8: looking in the rear view mirror, right, So you look back. 149 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 8: And I was blessed with a great family, uh, mom 150 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 8: and dad and the faith good churches going there. I 151 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 8: went to Hope College in Holland, Michigan with a bunch 152 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 8: of Dutch Reformed theologian types, really good academic background. Uh 153 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 8: then worked in business a little bit Arthur Anderson, but 154 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 8: then I felt the call to seminary, and then I 155 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 8: went to my PhD in economics. 156 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 7: But all of that was linked toward the calling, right 157 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 7: toward what can I do? 158 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 8: I worked at the World Bank while I was doing 159 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 8: my PhD to help the poorest of the poor. 160 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 7: And so you know, you just got to what does 161 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 7: God want you to? You got to no one else 162 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 7: can answer that for you. 163 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 8: Right when I talked to kids going to the career 164 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 8: center here at Liberty, you know, you have to know 165 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 8: what what God. What you know is I don't hear anything. 166 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 8: I don't hear anything direct. In my tradition, there's no 167 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 8: I don't hear the direct voice of God. You got 168 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 8: to tease that out right, work it out in fear 169 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 8: and trembling. I think also is either Tigergard or Dostoevsky said, 170 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 8: but that that's it's just a daily pattern of just 171 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 8: trying to be there with God. God's always there, we 172 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 8: know that, but you got to put yourself into that, 173 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 8: into that faith stance every day. 174 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 5: Your Dutch reform, I think you've told me that before 175 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: you know. There was a movie. I don't know if 176 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 5: you ever you ever see George C. Scott in Geersey Scott. 177 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 5: There's a movie about. 178 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 6: The Dutch Reform up in Michigan, the movie Hardcore. Did 179 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 6: you ever see GEORGEY Scott? 180 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 5: I know that you say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. 181 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: It was. 182 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 6: They positioned the Dutch Reformed as quite a dour people, right. 183 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 6: It was the whole thing of the kid running away, 184 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 6: the young daughter running away to California and bad times 185 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 6: befell her. I don't give away the plot, but it's uh. 186 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 6: It starts with the Dutch Reformed up in Michigan as 187 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 6: being a particularly dour group. I don't think the Brats 188 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 6: are dour people though, right you you you come out, 189 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 6: you come at things with a very life affirming Dave 190 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: Brat's got a twinkle in his eye as they say, 191 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 6: talk to me about how is your I tell you 192 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 6: what what we're gonna do is we've got beautiful music. 193 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: One of the reasons I love doing these specials over 194 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 6: the Christmas season. Our team here goes out of the 195 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 6: way to make sure that we get fantastic, fantastic music 196 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 6: that takes us in and out from different sources. 197 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 5: I think we have a different version. 198 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 6: We're gonna play different versions of old lang Zaine, which 199 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: happens to be one of my one of my favorite songs. 200 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 6: So we're gonna have a different version from one of 201 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 6: the choral societies in the fifties. Let's go ahead, out, 202 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: We're gonna be back. You've got Ben Harnwell and Stephen K. 203 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 6: Beannon here and Dave Brett. 204 00:12:51,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Oh Goses. 205 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: Son my dear for song Free Colliness Yet we too. 206 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: Press song. 207 00:13:43,960 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: Free war we foot scene four song by e. 208 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 10: F so. 209 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: Wee dot com yet oh and he is denies sci Friends. 210 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 5: If We. 211 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Uns Yet. 212 00:14:52,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Song School the Same Beat, the Salt Tunes in June, 213 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: the stat O the. 214 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 11: Days song song. 215 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: Sun Money Sto. 216 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 12: Son with the song guy. 217 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: Sound last range, different past views, said Son. 218 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 12: Son s. 219 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: S Hing. 220 00:16:34,880 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 11: Sot of place speak. 221 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 12: Have a sculpture. 222 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Sat Kay so and so. 223 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 13: And so. 224 00:17:48,400 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: Suns set used to conside the top sun sounds. 225 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: So I think we've done this the last couple of years. 226 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite segments of the word. 227 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 6: So right there you saw that's a Japanese vocal star, 228 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 6: recording star that was inspired to do that and someone 229 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 6: was inspired to layer that on top of a really 230 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 6: not a trailer, but a two or three minute compilation 231 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 6: of scenes from Waterloo Bridge. Why is this important? Well, 232 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 6: if you, if you, they don't make them like they 233 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: used to. Three years in a row. 234 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: That's Vivian Lee, the star. 235 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 6: Vivian Ly made Gone with the Wind with Art Gable. 236 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: As everybody knows, she plays Carol over Hair. 237 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 6: She then made a war film as England was getting 238 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 6: ready to go to wars Are I guess? In the 239 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 6: wharf after nineteen thirty nine called Waterloo Bridge. She plays 240 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 6: a tragic lover of Robert Taylor. 241 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 5: And a magnificent film. But after Going with the Wind, 242 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 5: this film was shot in. 243 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: Black and white, but it's a love story and a 244 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 6: very powerful discussion about war and Warterloo Bridge. Then she 245 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 6: made I think one of my all time favorites, that 246 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: Hamilton woman. But the tragic nature of the affair of 247 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 6: Lady Emma Hamilton and of course my hero growing up 248 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 6: as a kid, Lord Horatio Nelson played by Sir Lawrence Olivier, 249 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 6: who was her husband at the time. She shot that 250 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 6: in a row, And of course this film is a 251 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 6: very controversial film because later it was there was almost 252 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 6: going to have an investigation about it, about how Churchill 253 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 6: and I six had used as as a propaganda propagand. 254 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: And a tool to actually get the United States on 255 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 5: the side of England and World War two. 256 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 6: But if you ever get a chance to see all 257 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 6: three of them, you'll see Vivian Lee at her height 258 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 6: of her power in the late nineteen thirties, early nineteen forties, 259 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 6: as a magnificent I mean no comparison to Vivian Lee 260 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 6: at the top of her game. Gone with the Wind 261 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 6: with Clark Gable, Waterloo Bridge with Robert Taylor. Robert Taylor 262 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 6: maybe not as well known today, but was a huge 263 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: star back in the late thirties, forties and fifties. And 264 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 6: of course that Hamilton woman with Sir Lawrence Olivier. And 265 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 6: so if you've got any time of a holiday weekend, 266 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 6: the last two shot in black and white. Remember that's 267 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 6: after the magnificent what technic color shooting that took so 268 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 6: long for Gone with the Wind Everything is in this 269 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 6: magnificent color even today, so much more vibrant than most 270 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 6: films as you see it made in nineteen thirty nine, 271 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 6: actually probably made nineteen thirty eight, and thirty nine. 272 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 5: Dave Brett and Dave Brett, we have pulled for the files. Uh, 273 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 5: and we'll play later. A film is about about to 274 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: Know About the Touch. It's George C. 275 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 6: Scott in one to I think George C. Scott's best 276 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: I think it's his best role he had. 277 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: Post post Patent. 278 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 6: Was the movie Hardcore about the about Calvinist Dutch reform 279 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 6: up in Michigan. 280 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 5: Uh and uh, it's fantastic. Uh, Bratt, are you much 281 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 5: of that note we've got hard wasna? 282 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, on that note, the dour 283 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 7: on the doer note. 284 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 8: Of course, my dad was raised in a dour household 285 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 8: coming out of Great Depression, so you know that there's 286 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 8: a little bit of that going on as well historically. 287 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 8: But Morley Safred did a thing a while back, it 288 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 8: seems like yesterday, it was two thousand and eight. He'd 289 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 8: he wanted to take in depth look the happiest people 290 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 8: on earth, which were the Danish. And they after you know, 291 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 8: regressing on all the normal variables, you know, like income 292 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 8: and all these kind of things. They and they showed 293 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 8: people on the subway, the Danes on the subway, they 294 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 8: look pretty dowur they're all looking at their feet, they're 295 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 8: not smiling, they're not you know, young social designers like 296 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 8: we got today. 297 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 9: Uh. 298 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 8: And they said, what's the what's the main reason why 299 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 8: the Danes are the happiest people on the earth in 300 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 8: the international comparisons for years? And the answer is because 301 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 8: they have the lowest expectations. And so there's your you know, 302 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 8: I don't push that on everybody, but kind of a 303 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 8: humorous right, they're happy because they exceed their expectations. Right, 304 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 8: So that's a that's a clever little way to think 305 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 8: about happiness. 306 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: Uh. Brat Bratt, You've always got a bounce on your 307 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 5: step though for a coming. 308 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 6: And I always tease you about the because the Presbyterians 309 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: of you from the South, the American Safs, you know 310 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: that Stonewall Jackson and so many of so many of 311 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: our great generals, uh in the in the Confederate Army 312 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 6: during the Civil War were Presbyterian. They kind of came 313 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 6: from that, uh, that hearty stock and always give you, uh, 314 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 6: I always give you a hard time that you've got 315 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 6: that upbeat personality. 316 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: The Jorge C. 317 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: Scott in the movie has got the Stonewall Jackson personality, right, 318 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: he's not giving you. 319 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: He's not giving you, he's not giving you a warm fuzzy. 320 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 5: At any time I admired them. Go ahead, go. 321 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 7: Ahead, No, I admire those types. 322 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 8: Look at the historical clips you just showed that that 323 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 8: clip you shown, I'm surprised it's now outlawed. It's got 324 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 8: a handsome man and a beautiful woman in it, and 325 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 8: I mean that that's stunting. You compare that to modern 326 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 8: social media, and I wish we could go back to 327 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 8: the great films. There's one good guys film this year. 328 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 8: F one came out and it was like a rocky film. 329 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 8: I went to the gym the next morning and wanted 330 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 8: to do push ups and everything. 331 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: And they're just messing and so. 332 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: Got Bratt motivated by the way on Waterloo Bridge. Let 333 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: me give your heads up when you see this film. 334 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 6: This film is a very hard film. I mean the 335 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 6: film look Gone with the Winds, I think is a 336 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 6: tough film. Waterloo Bridge a very tough film, and that 337 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 6: Hamilton Woman is an extremely tough film. They didn't put 338 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 6: any punches on this in Waterloo Bridge. When you watch 339 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 6: it's about Vivian Lee's a ballerina in London. But what 340 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 6: happens during her journey with this war hero played by 341 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 6: Robert Taylor. I think he's a colonel is totally unexpected. 342 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 6: You will not anticipate the middle of the film and 343 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 6: the end of the film at the beginning, because back then, 344 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 6: I think they realized that adults can handle adult topics 345 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 6: and you don't have to do it in a sleazy 346 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 6: or perverted way. But Vivian Lee just absolutely incredible. Anyway, 347 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 6: let's hang I got my favorite segment of the year. 348 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 6: We do it right at the top of the show. 349 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 6: Ben Harnwell, he's a little under the weather. We're gonna 350 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 6: find out. Is that from a New Year's Eve party? 351 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 6: Or is he just under the weather? And Dave Brat's 352 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 6: with us. We're gonna leave it with the pipes. My 353 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 6: favorite song, It's New Year's Day. It's one January in 354 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 6: the year of Alred, twenty twenty six. We're gonna take 355 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 6: a short breakbe back in. 356 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 5: The morning, just a moment. 357 00:26:20,200 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 14: Shoot the Quatin speed Forgot and day so. 358 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 12: F song should not the quains. 359 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Speed Forgot and day sublands son furl. 360 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 12: Sig my dear for song word day. 361 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 11: Oh c missuit and day of Forland so. 362 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: Welcome back. We're going to play that in its entirety. 363 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: That's a recording star. 364 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 6: This is what I think it is, Norwegian stunning voice. 365 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: Ben Harnwell joins us, got Dave bred here to kick 366 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 6: off the new year. We're maybe not at the intensity 367 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 6: level that we are in the morning War Room. And 368 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 6: the reason is you're kicking off the year. We're gonna 369 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 6: get into this thing. We're gonna work our way into 370 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 6: this thing. Ben, you're a little under the weather. Is 371 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 6: it because the audience already is asking the war and 372 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 6: Posse is asking us because. 373 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 5: Did you have a late night or all night? 374 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 12: Or in Rome? 375 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: I realize you guys have these big sophisticated swank parties 376 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 6: that you're you know, black tie, elegant women around, very aristocratic. 377 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: Is that what you were doing all night? And you're 378 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 5: just joining us here this morning. 379 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 10: First thing to do is to steve you and Dave 380 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 10: Bratt wish you very happy new Yeah. And as we 381 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 10: say here, I like the idea that when you think 382 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 10: of Ben Harnwell, I'm the International Bureau, you think of 383 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 10: black tie, even white tie, soarees. Actually I am a 384 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 10: bit under the weather. I don't think it's over indulgence 385 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 10: from last night. If you want, if you want to 386 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 10: have the heroic points attributed in my column, I think 387 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 10: it was the the a week ago from Christmas Eve 388 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 10: when you had me out in Saint Peter's piazza in 389 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 10: the cold. 390 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 5: Hang on it and listen. Is that? 391 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 9: Is that? Is that? 392 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 6: Because that was that Christmas Eve show is one of 393 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 6: the best shows I think we've ever done. And I 394 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: want to thank you, and I want to thank Jason 395 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 6: Jones and everybody at the Church of the Nativity, the 396 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 6: pastor that runs it. Cutting between Major Square and Saint 397 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 6: Peter Square, I thought was fantastic. Now we didn't have 398 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 6: the traditional crowd and all the energy coming s a 399 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 6: Peter Square because it was a cold driving rain. 400 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: That had been a cold driving rain all day. 401 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 6: And I should tell you the International Bureau when Ben 402 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 6: goes and sets up, he doesn't take uh. Jason Jones 403 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 6: had a had an appropriate cre because Jason's making a 404 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 6: documentary film. 405 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 5: We're there. 406 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 6: He had lighting, he had his sound guy there, he 407 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 6: had cameramen. He had some you know, warm hot coffee 408 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 6: off to the side. 409 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 5: You didn't have any of that. 410 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 9: Did you? Ben? 411 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 6: Your your you run on the warrim. International Bureau runs 412 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 6: on a sparser budget. 413 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 10: That's what's one way opening it. No, but I do 414 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 10: have I do have illumination. Actually, I like to think 415 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 10: of myself as been quite well well lit for for 416 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 10: external broadcast segments. But it was a solitary experience. Let's 417 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 10: been like that in Saint Peter Square on Christmas Eve. 418 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 10: Let's just say, Steve, I took one for the team 419 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 10: in order to bring that one for the war room posse. 420 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: You know. 421 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 10: So I'm I'm a bit, I'm a bit under the water, 422 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 10: that's all fighting. 423 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 8: Have you been? 424 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: Have you been? 425 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 5: Have you been? 426 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 6: Have you been saying about I just want to be 427 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 6: I just want to note that I'm always pushing for 428 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 6: a higher budget for the International Bureau. 429 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 5: It's Uh. 430 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 6: It's Grace Chong, who also, besides being Queen of the Trolls, 431 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 6: also doubles as our chief financial officer, chief operating officer. 432 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 6: Whatever Mode doesn't do, she does, uh, And so she's 433 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 6: always one talk to me about pairing back the extravagance 434 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 6: of the of the Rome Rome Bureau. 435 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: So I am fighting for you, Ben all the time, 436 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 5: fighting for you all the time. 437 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 15: Ben, did you really get the call because of the Yeah, yeah, 438 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 15: it was pretty It was nice and nice to know 439 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 15: that in internal and the internal accountancy review sessions, I 440 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 15: have a one person fighting for me in my corner 441 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 15: of chewing news. 442 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 5: But but you should know, no, I never, I never. 443 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: Grace always wins. 444 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: Let's say that Grace is always the final she gets 445 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 6: the final say so on all things resource wise. Let's 446 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 6: go back that for a second, because we're all kicking 447 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 6: off the year and talking about really personal motivation, team motivation, 448 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 6: you know, kind of what to look forward to. 449 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 5: But really these are more we deal with. 450 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 6: The daily you know, material of what's happening in throughout 451 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 6: the world and the you know, the use of agency, 452 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 6: which we always talk about. I want to go back 453 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: because that was a show we kind of conceived it, 454 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 6: didn't know if we could pull it off. Just thank 455 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 6: god A Jason happened to be over there and the 456 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 6: Church and the Nativity really helped out because we had 457 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 6: the pastor there. 458 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 5: But I think those shows did. 459 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 6: I think that show did juxtaposed, you know, particularly what's 460 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 6: going on throughout in that vital part of the world, 461 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 6: and we got some real insights into really the plight 462 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 6: of Christianity in the in the ancient home of Christianity, 463 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 6: not simply Israel and Judea Samaria, but also in the 464 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 6: Desert Church. I haven't had a chance to catch up 465 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: with you because you've been on the go. 466 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 5: In your six o'clock shows. You've been doing have just 467 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 5: been extraordinary. 468 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: I've gotten so many compliments from people of all the 469 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 6: great work that you're doing, both on the international side 470 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 6: on the Friday show and then on the traditional Catholic, 471 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 6: traditional Christian side on the Wednesday show. 472 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: But what were your thoughts about it? 473 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 6: Seeing being there an the Vatican and seeing the reporting 474 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 6: live from the Church and the Nativity. 475 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 10: It was a special moment for me personally to be 476 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 10: able to be then feel that connection and as you say, 477 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 10: with the parish priest, the actual parish priest of the 478 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 10: Church of the Nativity in that live in that broadcast, 479 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 10: that was special. You Seeing as we're going to just 480 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 10: pick up on the themes of that Christmas Eve show, 481 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 10: that gives me an opportunity to mention something I didn't 482 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 10: actually get to mention on the show itself, but it 483 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 10: was pretty important and for time reasons I would have 484 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 10: done it. And that's the fact that that Pope Leo, 485 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 10: who I like to think we have an objective view 486 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 10: about We're not fanboys. I like to think we were 487 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 10: capable of objective criticism. When he went to Lebanon a 488 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 10: month or so ago on his first visit to the 489 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 10: Middle East, he actually highlighted Lebanon as a country. It 490 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 10: was a model country of tolerance between Muslims and Christians 491 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 10: for us to imitate here in the West. And Steve, 492 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 10: that's such an outrageous thing. I think for someone who 493 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 10: is acclaimed to be the successor of Saint Peter to say, 494 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 10: because one has an immediate conclusion either this guy is 495 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 10: a well meaning buffoon or is a cipher something worse. 496 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 10: The story of Lebanon is absolutely horrific from a Christian perspective. 497 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 10: If you go back one hundred years, I think in 498 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 10: the early nineteen twenties was the last official census in 499 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 10: the Lebanon Steve, it was fifty Christian forty seven percent Muslim. 500 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 10: But they haven't had any official censuses since then. But 501 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 10: the most recent informal one that they did, I think, 502 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 10: looking at the educational roles, put the Christian proportion from 503 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 10: an overall majority down to fifteen percent, fifteen percent Christian, 504 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 10: eighty five percent Muslim. If Pope Leo thinks that we 505 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 10: in the West in Christendom are going to tolerate that 506 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 10: dynamic and to do it supenely and passively and just 507 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 10: accept that dictat from him, he has no idea of 508 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 10: the fighting spirit which is moving right across the Europe 509 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 10: and especially the United States, especially with young guys in 510 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 10: their twenties who are showing, if you're looking at social media, 511 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 10: are showing absolute heroic witness to the Christian faith. That 512 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 10: is I say, one of the true betrees to this 513 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 10: phenomenon is the martyrdom, the public martyrdom of Charlie Kirk 514 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 10: and the revival that we said on the show was 515 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 10: going to take place due to the Holy Spirit following 516 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 10: that appalling event. But there is something taking place, and 517 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 10: at that very moment the Pope comes out and says, 518 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 10: we in the West need to imitate the Christian Islamic 519 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 10: dynamic of Lebanon. I would say this to the Pape, 520 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 10: Holy Father, you could not be more wrong, and we're 521 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 10: not going to accept it. And that's why I think 522 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 10: you mentioned the shows that we do on Wednesday. That's 523 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 10: why I think that the woman has such an important 524 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 10: role to play in this revival of Christianity, which is 525 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 10: a spiritual revival first and foremost, and that will have 526 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 10: riches right following right on from that, but obviously also 527 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 10: including in the political cultural spheres as well. 528 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 5: See that. 529 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 6: Do you see that happening? Do you get our yearning 530 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 6: you're feeling that? I mean, I think we see it 531 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 6: politically somewhat. I think we're seeing it spiritually. But you're 532 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 6: on top of this more than I am in Europe. 533 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 6: Do you honestly think that that's Do you think that's happening? 534 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 5: Because and this. 535 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 6: Kind of kicks off our January first, you know, the 536 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 6: substance of it. This is one of the biggest things 537 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 6: that's before us today if you take out you know, 538 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 6: artificial or not takeout if you look at artificial intelligence 539 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 6: and everything that's doing in the race for the singularity 540 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 6: to dehumanize us, to move past Homo sapiens and past 541 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 6: man in the image. 542 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 5: Of likeness of God. On top of that, you add 543 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 5: this fight between. 544 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 6: Christendom and really atheism, this Marxist atheism and Jie hottest combination. 545 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 5: Do you honestly do you see the I tell you what, 546 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 5: Let's listen to this music because it's a great way 547 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 5: to kick off the year. 548 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 6: Ben Harnwell's in Rome, Dave Bratz in the United States 549 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 6: of America. We're here at one of our traveling war 550 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 6: room studios. We're going to take a short commercial break. 551 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 6: Let you listen some great music well and be back 552 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 6: in a moment. 553 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 2: Freez Come. 554 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: Listens too, Operates s. 555 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 2: Free be full Scene f s. 556 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 9: F West comes yet Oh. 557 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: And he is so escape if we uns yet. 558 00:39:44,080 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 13: Song, song, my idea, song, wellness, snats. 559 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: Song, mights we co co cook, conessnat. 560 00:40:45,480 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 5: Oh to the world. 561 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 6: So Ben question to you first and then to day Brat, 562 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 6: are you are you actually seeing this and feeling it? 563 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 6: Because it would be one of the because I honestly 564 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 6: think we need a moment like the Crusades to turn 565 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 6: this thing around. You can see in Western Europe. I 566 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 6: think you're seeing the fall of Christendom. I don't think 567 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 6: there's any other way to look at it. And it's 568 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 6: going to take some very determined individuals and they're out there. 569 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 6: But are you actually seeing this as a movement? I mean, 570 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 6: it's one of the reasons we're going. 571 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 5: To Texas on. 572 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 6: It's not just the ninth of January. I'll have other 573 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 6: things to report. In the fact, if we can in 574 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 6: the next hour, I want to get it up. We're 575 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 6: virtually sold out of tickets, but I want everybody in 576 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 6: the area a grapevine that can come, should definitely come, 577 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 6: and we're going to have other things around it. I 578 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 6: think it must spend a couple of days down there, 579 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 6: because it's that important to us what's happening here in 580 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 6: this country, and particularly you can see in Texas. 581 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: The the. 582 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 5: Is Texas the first among equals. I don't know. 583 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 6: I come from the Commonwealth of Virginia. We're very proud 584 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 6: of our heritage. But what Virginia's deteriorated to. It's the 585 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 6: data center capital of the world because of all the 586 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 6: deep state that's up in Northern Virginia by Dallas Airport, 587 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 6: that whole corridor down there's nothing but deep state companies, 588 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 6: and they've now trashed Northern Virginia and becoming the data 589 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 6: not just the it's the it's the deep state that 590 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 6: all the companies are there. But now you get these 591 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 6: data centers have just kind of ruined the entire thing. 592 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 6: So Texas is so vitally important to us. 593 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 5: Are you seeing this in Europe? Ben? You can actually 594 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 5: point to it and you can feel it. 595 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 10: Well, let me answer that this way, Steve. You mentioned 596 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 10: earlier the Wednesday show that we do, which is a 597 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 10: recap of what's going on in Christianity specifically focusing on, 598 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 10: but not exclusively on, not exclusively at all on traditional 599 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 10: cathol So we have this show. We have Liz your 600 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 10: known obviously to the war Room Posse, the legendary Frank 601 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 10: Walker from Canon to Onto, and Jenny Holland. And Jenny 602 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 10: Holland every week comes to us and recounts a development 603 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 10: on exactly what you're talking about here, which is the revival, 604 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 10: the Christian revival in the West. And she does this 605 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 10: by picking a key story to'll be The New York Times, 606 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 10: the Washington Post. Right, So these aren't natural voices that 607 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 10: are encouraging. Let's put it like that, the revival of Christianity, 608 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 10: and every single story is the same. There is something 609 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 10: taking place in the eighteen to twenty four year old 610 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 10: male bloc in terms of Christian church attendance, A pickup 611 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 10: an uptick, and it's not contradictory to what you're saying, 612 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 10: which is the fact that that we are losing the battle? 613 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 10: Hearing occupied your there are because there are two parallel movements, 614 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 10: and this is what we talk about on Wednesday on 615 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 10: our Wednesday Evening show. Two parallel movements taking place. One 616 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 10: of them is the falling away of cultural affinity church going. 617 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 10: That is to say, three or four generations of people 618 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 10: who no longer have any sense of supernatural faith in 619 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 10: Jesus Christ are simply ceasing to go to church anymore, because, 620 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 10: let's face it, why bother unless you actually do believe. 621 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 10: On the other hand, what is taking place is you 622 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 10: have in that young especially male cohort, a very strong 623 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 10: sense of radicalization. Let's look at that word. If you 624 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 10: give me thirty seconds, Steve, radicalization. The true meaning of 625 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 10: that word comes from Latin radics. Radicis that means to 626 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 10: the root. It means the root. Okay, so we're talking 627 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 10: about radicalization. What we're talking about here in the Christian 628 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 10: context are young guys who are going back to the 629 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 10: roots of Christianity and they're living it with a coherence 630 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 10: and a confidence that has not been seen in the 631 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 10: West for at least one hundred years. And that is 632 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 10: going to bring. That is going to bring spiritual fruit. 633 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 10: Jesus Christ never told us in order to win our battles, 634 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 10: we need to be in numerical majority. In fact, he pointed, 635 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 10: he indicated, would be the yeast that makes the bread rice. 636 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 10: That's the thing I can't underline enough quantitatively, extremely tiny, right, 637 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 10: But if you live the faith with integrity, with joy, 638 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 10: with peace, that will attract people guaranteed one thousand percent. 639 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 10: Because God made us to respond to the gospel, and 640 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 10: he made us to respond to the Gospel being lived 641 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 10: with coherence and with credibility. And that's what's taking place now. Steve, 642 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 10: you're gonna ask me, is it going to be too little, 643 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 10: too late? Or will it swing the tide. I don't 644 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 10: know the answer to that question. All I know that 645 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 10: all I can say is that I think what the 646 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 10: Holy Spirit wants us to do is to be the 647 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 10: best witnesses the Jesus Christ that we can possibly be 648 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 10: in whatever sphere the Holy Spirit has given to us 649 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 10: to operating. 650 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 5: Very powerful. 651 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 6: Okay, in the next hour, coming up to the hour 652 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 6: break and the next hour, I got Bratt and I've 653 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 6: got Harnwell, we're going to talk about how they go 654 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 6: through the end of the year and how they rejuvenate 655 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 6: themselves for the beginning of the year, and talk about 656 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 6: everybody in the audience that your personal agency. When Ben 657 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 6: talks right there about this rejuvenation among young men eighteen 658 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 6: to twenty four, it's about the use of agency of 659 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 6: God working through you in as divine providence does. And 660 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 6: so we're going to talk about that as kind of 661 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 6: the motivational kickoff. We've got a long tough year ahead 662 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 6: of us, but we've had we've had a bunch of 663 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 6: long tough years ahead of us in our accomplishment are unparalleled. 664 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 6: Why because of your agency and your stick toutedness, your work, 665 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 6: we're gonna take a short commercial break or returning the 666 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 6: warm in just. 667 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 5: A moment. 668 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 12: Fun talk. 669 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: I can't cost falling far side. 670 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: Of us have for 671 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: Tote side, I say treats of nice s