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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: we go. You, thank you, Thank you everybody for joining

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Speaker 1: us today. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. As he stated,

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald. Our theme is there's no

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Speaker 1: perfect time to start following your dreams because people always

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Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gift. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: always leave with your gift and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: or co workers stop you from planning or living your dreams.

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Speaker 1: My guests on the show today is a renown R

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Speaker 1: and B singer songwriter Kim. For all of his life,

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Speaker 1: Kim has always been driven by music and the emotions

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Speaker 1: involved in bringing his music to life. He is now

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Speaker 1: the author of the memoir share My Life. In his

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Speaker 1: book Share My Life, Kim goes back to the very

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Speaker 1: beginning before his music startom to introduce us to his grandmother,

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Speaker 1: who worked as a share cropper in the South and

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Speaker 1: had thirteen children. His mom always had a beer in

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Speaker 1: his father. Confused and rejected, Kim eventually used drugs and

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Speaker 1: this incredible journey, his independent music career, family, and his

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Speaker 1: book Share My Life. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: master Class, Master Class, the one and only Kim. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, my brother? I'm good man. How are you

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Speaker 1: doing this book? Let's let's let's set the table here

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Speaker 1: because it's a great book. I read it from cover

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Speaker 1: to cover and my wife he knows when I was

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Speaker 1: maybe just leave me alone and reading this is this

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Speaker 1: is this is this because you have me on the journey.

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Speaker 1: But when I when I look at who Kim is

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Speaker 1: one platinum selling album, Kim album to two gold selling albums, Chemistry, Intimane,

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Speaker 1: three Grammy nomination, five number one hit singles. Why are

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Speaker 1: you writing this book share my life. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me today, brother, I appreciate it. I wrote this

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Speaker 1: book because any healing and transformation that I have experienced

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Speaker 1: because somebody shared their story with me along the way,

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Speaker 1: and somebody was transparent with me. Someone was vulnerable with me.

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Speaker 1: Someone was willing to admit their faults to me, and

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Speaker 1: they're overcoming to me their triumph and the and the

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Speaker 1: and it helped me to transform my life, and I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that my book does the same for someone else. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you because we know one camp, you

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Speaker 1: know you do not have a long relationship through music

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Speaker 1: through Steve Harmer Morning Shore, a lot of events we

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Speaker 1: did together over the years, and when the inspiration behind

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Speaker 1: this book, I knew that version and I can remember

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Speaker 1: when I first met you. I believe it was in

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Speaker 1: And when I read the book, Kim, that wasn't who

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Speaker 1: wasn't there, the grace wasn't there. Talk about that early

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Speaker 1: On July twenty third, or nineteen ninety, I had my

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Speaker 1: a really interesting book. I'm talking to Kim his book

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Speaker 1: Sharing My Life and memoir about his life, his struggles

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Speaker 1: as a youth, as a young man. We all had struggles.

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Speaker 1: Is this a Is this a therapy? And the says

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Speaker 1: I love because that's when we all learned it. Like

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Speaker 1: whether it's dribbling in a basketball or standing on stage

427
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Speaker 1: as a comedian or a singer. When did you realize

428
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Speaker 1: that this is a gift, this is my gift. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I knew that I love I knew that I knew

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Speaker 1: that I loved it before before our family left Nashville.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love the piano. When I was a toddler,

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't either there was a check attached

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Speaker 1: to it or or it was a you know, a

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Speaker 1: possible vocation until much later, you know, in in my

435
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Speaker 1: life and you know, and actually and there's a you know,

436
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Speaker 1: and there's a paradox there too, because I didn't get

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Speaker 1: a deal when you know, when I got a deal

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Speaker 1: when I stopped when I when I you know, I

439
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Speaker 1: realized that that um, I didn't have to you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd always been chasing a record deal since I was

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Speaker 1: a teenager. You know, I came to a place in

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Speaker 1: my thirties I was like, you know what, maybe music

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Speaker 1: is not my thing. I thought that I I became

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Speaker 1: open to the idea I could be successful doing something else,

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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't have to be music, and I

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Speaker 1: let go of it. I didn't stop making music, but

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Speaker 1: I let go up the idea that this was the

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Speaker 1: passion of it, or because of the doubt or the

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Speaker 1: the rejection is that's why you let GORDI idea. It

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Speaker 1: was none of that. This is this was elevated thinking. Right.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that it was the rejection. It was like

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Speaker 1: I was just open to the you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: spiritual axiom. Right. I had this, I gotta have it.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have it. I gotta have it, I gotta

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Speaker 1: have it, I gotta have it. And it's like, no,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't have to have it. I

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Speaker 1: can be successful doing something else. Let me go find

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Speaker 1: out what that is. And it didn't mean that I

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Speaker 1: was going to quit making music. It just meant that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it didn't I didn't, you know, like, dude,

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Speaker 1: there's more to me than just than just doing this,

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Speaker 1: let me go find out what those things are. Then

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Speaker 1: I and I went and looked at for those things

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Speaker 1: and I failed miserably. However, it was it was the

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Speaker 1: letting go, right, It was the letting go and being

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Speaker 1: willing and all. I think. Business is one thing that

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Speaker 1: i've i've i've has really been crucial to me. And

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Speaker 1: the slast you know, probably eighteen month period, is that

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Speaker 1: businesses failed. Man, and people fail because they don't pivot.

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Speaker 1: They don't pivot soon enough, you know, they wait and

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Speaker 1: they hold on, you know. And I say this for

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Speaker 1: the people who, you know, for the for for for

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Speaker 1: the aspiring singer whose mother tell them that they sound

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Speaker 1: good singing in the living room, and spend your whole

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Speaker 1: life until you're sixty five years old trying to sing,

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Speaker 1: you know, when actually you make some pretty good cupcakes

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Speaker 1: and that's what you should be doing. Right. Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: funny in your book, now you talk about trying to

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Speaker 1: be a comedian. Now you didn't talk about trying to

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Speaker 1: be That was a very good joke there, my brother,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Look,

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Speaker 1: I you know, so I feel you know, I've always

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Speaker 1: known what it was, you know. But I'm always open

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Speaker 1: to the idea that I don't have all the answers, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm always open to the idea that I don't have

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Speaker 1: all man just and even even today, dude, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I make records. I'm sitting down here, you know, I

488
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Speaker 1: just wrote this book. We got a live out and

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Speaker 1: it just came out. I'm out on the road with

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Speaker 1: with Letacy and uh and music Soul Child, and still

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Speaker 1: ask myself every day Lord and say hey, yo, then

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Speaker 1: point point me in the right direction. I want nothing

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Speaker 1: that don't belong to me, you know, which is anti entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: You know that that whole self will you know? And

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Speaker 1: police sofa up by your bootstraps. There's a place for that,

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Speaker 1: you know. But it comes with limitation. So I just

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Speaker 1: I just I just remain I just remained open. But

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Speaker 1: there was a shot that you potentially selling Mary Kay though,

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Speaker 1: aw right, I wasn't. I wasn't selling Mary Kay for

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Speaker 1: the car I was selling Mary Kay. I was like, right,

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Speaker 1: I love it right right, Yeah. You know the emotional

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Speaker 1: side of this, you know, when you talk about the relationship,

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Speaker 1: you talk about you know, your your skin tone being

504
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Speaker 1: bullied and and but the relationships ties really to the music.

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Speaker 1: It ties to your therapist telling you that probably your

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Speaker 1: music is therapeutic to you. When you started getting these

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Speaker 1: answers along the way, and you father too, incredibly amazing

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Speaker 1: children out of wedlock, can you start dealing with that,

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Speaker 1: the responsibility of fatherhood and your career and trying to

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Speaker 1: maintain a responsibility and stand close to your children. When

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Speaker 1: did you start lining everything up, Kim that it made

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Speaker 1: sense to you that I'm doing it right, I have

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that it's I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm always in the process of lining it up.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's always I'm always in the process of

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Speaker 1: process of lining it lining my life up and peeling

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Speaker 1: back the layers of the onion to my life. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's not a place where you arrive

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Speaker 1: because I look back, you know, where I thought I

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Speaker 1: had it lined up pretty good, and like you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking back, I'm like, dude, you are crazy right

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00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: back then, right like you know, with every you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not we are constantly evolving, constantly constantly learning. I'm

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Speaker 1: not the guy, I'm not the same guy was six

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Speaker 1: months ago. You know what I'm saying, It's like constantly

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Speaker 1: you know, reevaluating, constantly, um, you know, uh as Stephen

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00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: Covey would say, you know, constantly sharpening and saw, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to get It's not it's not a question of

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Speaker 1: of arriving. It's a question of continuing to to to

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Speaker 1: make the best effort to do, to keep doing the

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Speaker 1: next right thing, you know, and building upon that, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm you know, I'm in a pretty in

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00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good place, you know, right now. But I

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00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: also know that there's that there's definitely more to learn

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00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: and more to be discovered. Well, the amazing thing that

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00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: I discovered with you and reading this book, because you know,

537
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: you only know a person one side of a person,

538
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: just like a person doesn't know other side of me

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Speaker 1: until I tell them and reveal them like you were

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00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: like you were revealing in this book. But you know

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Speaker 1: the fact that you made a conscious effort. You know,

542
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Speaker 1: my mom graduated from college Wayne State, your father graduated

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Speaker 1: from Tennessee State, and then you made the collecious decision

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Speaker 1: to go back to school because you dropped out. Why

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Speaker 1: was that important? I went? I went back to get

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Speaker 1: my high school diploma. Yeah, yeah, I didn't go to

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Speaker 1: you know, I was not you know, I was not

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Speaker 1: college material. And that's and that's okay. We're getting ingrained,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we ingrained in our children at you know, college, college, college,

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Speaker 1: and everybody ain't gonna thrive in college, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So um, but I went back to get

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Speaker 1: my high school diploma because it was always a point

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Speaker 1: of it was always a point of shame, you know

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Speaker 1: for me. And I was trying. I was actually I

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00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: actually was trying to take the GEED. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to take the GED to get my GED. But the

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00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: test for the GEED was too hard. It was easier

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Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, dude, I may as well go.

559
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I may as well go back to school.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you till I gotta stop.

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Speaker 1: You man. You know, this is a pretty intense book, man.

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00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: You know, Kim is a pretty intense shaman. And we've

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00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: been laughing, man, we've been um joking around. That's the

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00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: amazing side of this story and an amazing side of you. Man.

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Speaker 1: You're a good brother, man. You are you are a winner.

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Speaker 1: You are you are a comedian and that's the side

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Speaker 1: of y'all. I'm so happy I'm getting to hear and

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Speaker 1: see for the first time of my life because as

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Speaker 1: as as a person who watched you perform, I'm in awe.

570
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: And that's a shield because you know, when you like

571
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: you saying you Michael Jackson came out and prance and

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00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: you know all those songs you talk about that really

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Speaker 1: turn you in direction of who you are today. That's

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Speaker 1: who you are to meet when I watch you on

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00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: stage as an artist because of the fact that how

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Speaker 1: you affect me from a stand from a personal standpoint,

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Speaker 1: it's all good. It's all good because you motive. Your

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00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: your music is motivational. Your music is emotional, music is uplifting,

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Speaker 1: all those things that that as an artist you want

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00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: it to be. But to hear you, you know, at

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00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: this layer of view I've never seen before. It's really

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Speaker 1: refreshing in your thoughts. Is this is this Kim? Thank you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is Kim, This is Kim. Yeah? Yeah, thank you man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. You know, thank you, thank you,

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00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We ain't done yet. You don't

586
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: keep it going, but my brother, I want to. I

587
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: want you to keep it going. And I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming to my show, just taking the

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00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: time to just share my life, which is your life,

590
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: because because you're part of so many people's lives. It's

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Speaker 1: the memoir written by David Ritz. The name of the

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Speaker 1: book is kim My Brother. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation master Class. Please don't go anywhere, We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass. You

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Speaker 1: are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of

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Speaker 1: Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Attorney Benjamin Crump. It's a nationally

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Speaker 1: recognized trial lawyer. He recently led to George Floyd's family

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Speaker 1: legal team. Attorney Benjamin Crump once told me that anyone

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Speaker 1: should sit in the courtroom doing a trial, and you

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Speaker 1: will clearly see there are two systems of justice. Just

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Speaker 1: because they say it's legal, that doesn't mean it's right.

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Speaker 1: Everything Hitler did to the Jews in Germany was legal,

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Speaker 1: but that didn't make it right. Slavery was legal, but

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Speaker 1: that didn't make it right. And they try to tell

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Speaker 1: us where they did. The trade by Mark and Brianna

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Speaker 1: Taylor and Eric Gardner and so many others was legal,

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Speaker 1: but I stand on my bullet poor every chance I

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Speaker 1: get to remind America, no matter what you say is legal,

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Speaker 1: dot com. Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass

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Speaker 1: hosted by Rishan McDonald. I guess today is doctor Corey Abert,

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Speaker 1: chief medical Officer of Dealer University and an assistant professor

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Speaker 1: at LSU Health Services Center and Tulane University Medical Center

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans, Louisiana. Also an ear physician for over

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Speaker 1: twenty five years and one of the leading voices for

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Speaker 1: sickle sale care. Doctor Abear is also co hosting a

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Speaker 1: new show called Living Your Life, interviews incredible people who

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Speaker 1: refuse to let a life threatening illness hold them back

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Speaker 1: families an individuals thriving despite sickle sale disease or sickle

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Speaker 1: sale trade. Please welcome for the first time on my show,

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Speaker 1: Moneymaking Conversations Masterclass, Doctor Corey Abear. How are you doing, sir,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, and you know, it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: We've we've our paths across many times in the many

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Speaker 1: years that you have been out on the on the road.

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Speaker 1: I remember one time in South Africa we were doing

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Speaker 1: as absolutely yes, it's good. Good to hear me and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. Well, you know when you when you go

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Speaker 1: through New Orleans, especially as much as I've been New

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Speaker 1: Orleans and plus South Africa, that it means that we're

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Speaker 1: doing something right, because I know it. Far as your brand,

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Speaker 1: you're nationally known in the media Today's show Good Morning America.

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Speaker 1: Your face is very familiar when people turned on the two,

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: which gives credibility about your brand when you talk, because

637
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: you are a brand doctor, A very correct well, you know,

638
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a word that people use

639
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: very loosely now they want to get their brand. But

640
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for twenty five years. So I

641
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: hope that I put enough skin in the game and

642
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: boots on the ground that I could say officially that

643
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I do have a brand. But how did it all start?

644
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: You know, because you know you don't you know, I'm

645
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: talking about the media portion of it all because you

646
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: went to college just like, we all went to college

647
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: when you get that degree, and then you went to

648
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: medical and then you start serving the community in the

649
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: degree format that you chose in college. But how did

650
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: the media transition happened in your career? You know it was.

651
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: It's a funny thing. You never know how stuff's gonna happen.

652
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: So basically, I finished, finished medical school, finished residency. But

653
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: during residency in New Orleans, we were the murder capital

654
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: of the world in nineteen ninety seven in New Orleans,

655
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: and we are the murder capital of the world once again,

656
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: which makes me very sad. But we worked and I

657
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: would be in the emergency room and seeing all these people,

658
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: black people, a poor people just coming to the ear

659
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night for like stuff that

660
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: like for ring worm or for like an ear infection

661
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: or something. I'm like, man, why why are you here

662
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. And they're like, well,

663
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: we didn't know where else to go. So when somebody

664
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: that looks like me gives me some inkling that I

665
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: can help them by just giving them information, I feel

666
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: I needed to do something about it. So I was

667
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I was married at the time, and I went to

668
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: my wife and said look, I want to start a

669
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: TV show called Urban Pediatrics and then move it to

670
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Urban Medicine. I want to do it, and I want

671
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: to tell people and empower people on their health because

672
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: people out here dying and you know, and in communcing

673
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: their lives little things. I said, so um. I went

674
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: to the public Access TV station in the New Orleans

675
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: and they and they asked me. I told him what

676
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to do, and they said, yeah, you can

677
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: do that. That'd be great for the low, low price

678
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: of three hundred dollars a month. Now, let me tell

679
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: you something that doesn't sound like a lot now, but

680
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven and you're making twenty five thousand

681
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: dollars a year, that was a lot. Mom and my

682
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: wife said, you're not about to do that. I said, look,

683
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: this is a sacrifice. We're gonna have to make it.

684
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: So I started, and I started at two o'clock in

685
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: the morning at channel one hundred and ninety five, and

686
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: two years later I was at six o'clock on Saturday

687
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: after Saturday evening afternoon on Channel eight, which was their

688
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: number one spot. So I moved up. People wanted it

689
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: and it was a great thing. Then right before Hurricane Katrina,

690
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: NBC came calling and said, we saw this show. Man,

691
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: it's really good. What we want you to put We

692
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: want to put you on the network. I said, that's awesome,

693
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: and then Kurricane Katrina washed everything away. Now. The reason

694
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: why I'm gonna get to the point real quick he

695
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: is because this is like what you're talking about with

696
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: the show. I had a defining moment, and people will

697
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: have defining moments in their lives and you gotta step

698
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: up for them. And God will let you know when

699
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: it is. After Hurricane Katrina, I lost my office was fine,

700
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: my house was fine, everything was fine. But I was

701
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: the only doctor practiced medicine for about three months and

702
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: it was these eighteen hour, twenty hour days. Was horrible. Man.

703
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: But one night, about two weeks after the hurricane, NBC

704
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: called me said, can you come and talk about health

705
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: after Hurricane Katrina? Because people are spread throughout the United States? Man,

706
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: we need somebody to come on. Can you do it.

707
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: I was laying in my bed, it was ten o'clock

708
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: at night. I was tired as hell, and I was like,

709
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: you know what, this may be a defining moment for me.

710
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: I gotta get up and I gotta do this, and

711
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: I went to the TV station that night and I

712
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: was on TV for one thousand, two hundred and twenty

713
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: seven consecutive nights after that, and that's when Doctor Oz came,

714
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: That's when Oprah came calling. That's when all the networks

715
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: came calling, because I was bringing entertainment but at the

716
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: same time bringing that information in a way that nobody

717
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: was giving it at that time. So you know, that's

718
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: how it all happened. And then ever since then. You know,

719
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: once you become that voice where people trust you know you,

720
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: you move forward, and that's what happened. Now you just

721
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: putting in an eighteen hour days and still doing TV simultaneously.

722
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, yes sir, because after after that, after

723
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: that hurricane, man, looking, I was lucky I wasn't working

724
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. You know what I'm saying

725
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: to me, you know, And I bring that up, Doctor e. Bary,

726
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: because we always talk about dreams, We always talk about commitment,

727
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: We always talk about effort because everybody wants the pipe,

728
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: but do atybody want to make the pie? And that's

729
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: what we're talking about right here, is that you could

730
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: have laid in bed and say, hey man, I'm tired,

731
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: but somebody told you to get up, and it told you,

732
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: and that's called effort. That's tall wanting to fulfill your

733
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: dream through application. But then when they told brought you

734
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: back the next day, at what point did you in

735
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: your mind you go should I stop? Should I keep

736
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: doing this? Stock day barrel? Well when did you did

737
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: you ever start questioning the process because they kept asking

738
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: you day after day to continue this whole run. Yeah.

739
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Now it's funny you would mention the word process because

740
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I was laying in my bed just the other night

741
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: and I had another defining money. I'm telling you this

742
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: and it's been twenty some years later. This is what happened.

743
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why we can't do better

744
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: as a people. I'm trying to figure out why we

745
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: can't get more black people in the medical school. And

746
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: I realized something. You know, when we were coming up, right,

747
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: we had to process a lot of stuff, and we

748
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: actually had to go through a process. So when you

749
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: will want to go to the movies when you were

750
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: growing up, you had to pick the movie, pick the

751
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: movie theater, pick the time, pick the way you're gonna

752
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: get the money, pick the friends you want to go with,

753
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: pick how you gonna figure out how to get there,

754
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, and then you had to

755
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: make sure you got it right because there were no

756
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: phones to contact people, so if your friends were out

757
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: there and you were later on, somebody else was like

758
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: it was just a mass. So you had to figure

759
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: out the process. And that's how your brain developed. Remember,

760
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: our brains aren't really concrete until we're twenty five years old,

761
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: so everything is your brain is still developing up until

762
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: that time. If you remember, that's why you couldn't rent

763
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: a car before you were twenty five years old. That's

764
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: where that came from anyway. But what I realized is

765
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: that these young people, when they want to see a movie,

766
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: what do they do? They press a button. When they

767
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 1: want some food, what do they do? Press a button?

768
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: When they want to go somewhere, They press a button.

769
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: Everything comes to them. Everything is on the demand. So

770
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: that means that their brains as they were being as

771
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: their brains are being developed, then they don't understand the

772
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: same process that we had to go through to make

773
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: things happen. But the problem is that the process to

774
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: be successful is old school so the process to be

775
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: successful hasn't gravitated so that they can understand how to

776
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: actually go through the process. So there's a disconnect and

777
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: a divorce between the young brain and how to process

778
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: to get through things and the old way things go

779
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: to actually be successful. And until we tell the young

780
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: people it ain't gonna change so you need to adapt

781
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: to the process. Or we come from the top and

782
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: say the process is gonna change, We're gonna have a

783
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: big disconnect and these old white establishments aren't about to

784
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: change the process so young black people can get it,

785
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: So we have to educate. So my thing was, I

786
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: understood the process by which I was going to become successful,

787
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: and it meant showing up and going somewhere to make

788
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: that happen, not something coming to me to make that happen.

789
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: And that's what I did in that bed that night,

790
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: to get up and go somewhere and keep going to

791
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: meet it, not putting it, letting it to meet me

792
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: come awesome. I'm talking to doctor Corey A. Bear, chief

793
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: medical Officer of Dealer University and an assistant professor at

794
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: LSU Health Services Center and Tulane University Medical Center in

795
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Louis handa our physician for over twenty five years.

796
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: He's on the front line, but more importantly, he's one

797
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: of the leading voices for sickle cell care. Doctor Barrel,

798
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: you have a show coming out called Living Your Life's

799
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: co hosted. You co hosted with care Spates. Why is

800
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: this show important and why are you hosting it or

801
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: co hosted in it. The reason why it is because,

802
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: first of all, cares crazy and I love kids, so

803
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: we have a ball. But really primarily what we found

804
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: is that sickle cell disease in America is a disease

805
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: that people don't talk about because it affects mostly brown people.

806
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: That's be honest, right. The sickle cell was the first

807
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: disease ever genetically mapped in the entire world. But we've

808
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: only had three or four drugs since nineteen forty to

809
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: come out to try to help. And so what I

810
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: noticed that everybody in America has to be tested at

811
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: birth for sickle cell disease trade and I started seeing

812
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: that all the young women that were coming to me

813
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: and they had their baby and cile cell disease maybe pain,

814
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: having all type of problems. These new war babes and

815
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: women didn't have any idea that they had sickle cell trade,

816
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: even though the test was done on the women at birth,

817
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: so spiled a basile lady had a baby when she's

818
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: twenty years old that t was done. She didn't have

819
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: any idea of the results. Because when I was in

820
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: medical school where it was taught that trade actually was

821
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: a silent and didn't cause any problems for you. It

822
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: just was if you, you know, had sickle cell trade,

823
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: unity with some ciles, trade your baby to have sickle

824
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: cell disease. People weren't taught that. But what we find

825
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: is that, you know, the number one cause of death

826
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: and new black military recruits was sickle cell traite up

827
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: until about five years ago, and seventeen young black men

828
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: have dropped dead in NCAA sports from sickle cell trade.

829
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: And if you go on a high altitude environment like

830
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: an airplane that's unpressurized in the cabinet or a helicopter,

831
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: or go hiking or skiing, or work out too hard

832
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: and have bone pain without getting enough hydration, you can

833
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: die from sickle cell trait. And there four million people

834
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: in America for sickle cell trade, black and white, and

835
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: so this is a health crisis. If you don't believe me,

836
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: go to the CDC website. As clear as day in

837
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: block capital letters, you can die from sickle cell trade.

838
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: But the problem is people in America don't even know

839
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: if they have sickle cell trade because they were taught

840
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: that it wasn't a big deal. But so that's why

841
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: this is an emergency. And people are not getting care

842
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: when they have sickle cell disease. When they go to

843
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: the er, they're not getting care. Care go to the ear.

844
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: He had to wait eight hours in excruciating pain, and

845
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: people thinking he's a drug seeker because nobody knows how

846
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: to treat the one hundred thousand people that have the disease,

847
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: that alone the four million people that have the trade.

848
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: So we got to get out there. We got to

849
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: explain this to people. We got to educate them, but

850
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: we got to entertain them because that's my brand entertainment.

851
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: I make you laugh, I make you cry, but I

852
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: give you information and then with that information you can

853
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: do whatever you want with it. But my job is

854
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: to give people information worldwide. Now that's what that's what

855
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: living your life is about. But you said something in

856
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: the middle of your conversation with me about drugger people

857
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: who feel drug secrets that people come in there, they're

858
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: in pain, they're letting the nurse know, the doctor knows

859
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: that they're in pain, but they're being labeled as people

860
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: who are just there to get drugs. Explain that, Well,

861
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: how did that stought and why is that such a problem. Okay,

862
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: So basically what happens is when you have sickle cell disease,

863
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: you have a lot of pain. You have a lot

864
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: of issues when it comes to lung health, kidney health,

865
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: spleen health, your vision, everything can be affected by sickle

866
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: cell disease. And when you're like a two year old

867
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: girl and you have some pain with a little pink

868
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: dress on going to the er, you know, asking for

869
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: some pain medicine, everybody thinks that's cute, right, that's cute, right,

870
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: even though little kids in pain. But when you are

871
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: a twenty five year old six foot tall, one and

872
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: eighty pound person to talk about you're in pain and

873
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: you need some morphine, they're like, wait a minute, this

874
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: ain't cute, dude. Well, this disease is supposed to be cure.

875
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: So people think that sickle cell disease is cured because theoretically,

876
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: there is a cure that for the lolo price of

877
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: five million dollars in about five people have gotten it

878
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: in the world since the beginning of time, So that's

879
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: not a viable option right now. So people have to

880
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: live with this disease and when they have pain, they

881
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: have excruciating pain ten out of ten. But most doctors

882
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: have never taken care of a sickle cell patient. They

883
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: don't even know what that looks like. So when you

884
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: go into an er and you are an adult asking

885
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: for morphine and they've never taken care of a patient

886
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: like this, they think you're a drug secret They label

887
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: you a drug seeker, and then you can't get the

888
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: medicine that you need. It's it's a very horrible, horrible process.

889
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: And then you know you're treated like a second class citizen.

890
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's a horrible thing. So what we have

891
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: to do as a people is we have to get

892
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: our minds right and get some legislation so that we

893
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: can identify people with sickle cell trade. That's the first thing.

894
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: I know that. That's I know that for a fact

895
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: because I saw it happen. And then it feels like

896
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: now today that's sickle cell all it's still on the

897
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: back burner of America and the medical minds. Is that correct?

898
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: It is, And I think it's because, um, well, you know,

899
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: things fall out of favor because you know, when when

900
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: it's not important to a particular group of people that

901
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: has the biggest voice, then it's not really addressed. So

902
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, sickle cell disease is in about one hundred

903
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: thousand people. About one hundred thousand people have that. Now

904
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: when you look at a country with uh, you know,

905
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: two hundred three hundred million people in it, Welcome to

906
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: money making conversations to show that she is the secret

907
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: success experience first can by marketing and branded expert Sean McDonald.

908
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I will know he's given me advice. I'm not you know,

909
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs and entrepreneurs and industry decision

910
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: making us what he likes to do, what he likes

911
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: that happen. Now it's time to hear from my man.

912
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: Symptom for money that's a number. So that's why I'm

913
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: putting this on my back so that we can have

914
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: that telethon against we can bring some more of the

915
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: awareness to this disease because it's disabling, and I'm gonna

916
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: give you one step further. I think it's criminal, and

917
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: that's right. I called it criminal. The fact that ninety

918
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: seven percent of young black women that have a baby

919
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: with sickle cell disease, meaning that baby is going to

920
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: be sick, maybe probably die early, being pain, lots of life,

921
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: always in the hospital, ninety seven percent of these women

922
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: that have this baby had no idea that they had

923
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: sickle cell trade. But the test is already done on

924
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: those women at birth. So what I'm saying is for

925
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: us not to know that, and we're spending billions of

926
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: dollars on trying to find a cure, can we just

927
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on empowering the community

928
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: to know if you have trade. So maybe if you

929
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: know you know you have trade, and you meet a

930
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: man or if you're a woman, I mean a man,

931
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: you meet a woman and you want to have a

932
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: baby with them, you should know if the possibility of

933
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: your child could have sickle cell disease. You might want

934
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: to go ahead and do it. You might not want

935
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: to go ahead and do it, But the point is

936
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: you need to know because that that baby is going

937
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: to be a huge emotional change in your life. That

938
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 1: baby's going to be a huge financial change in your life.

939
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: That baby is going to have a lot of pain

940
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: and distress and it's life. So it's a big decision

941
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: to make. But you need to know the information. So

942
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I think that what we're trying to do here is

943
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: we're going to try to get a national registry. So

944
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: all of you out there listening, if you were, if

945
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: you're in your forties, you're that test was done at birth,

946
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: If you're in the mid forties, to every all the

947
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: way down to just born today, that test was done

948
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: on you, and you can go find the results. And

949
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: if you can't find a result, you can go straight

950
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: to your doctor right now and get that test redrawn, okay,

951
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: and see if you have the trade. And I think

952
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: it's very very important for you and your children to

953
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: know so they can make some informed decisions. Wow. Well,

954
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about this whole conversation of hand with

955
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: doctor he Ar is that you know, I have the

956
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: sickle cell trade. My wife she had the sickle cell trade.

957
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: So you're absolutely correct. We had we had to make

958
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: a conscious decision about, you know, bringing a young child

959
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: into this world which you know our child does not

960
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease, and so but that doesn't matter.

961
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: You know, when my wife was pregnant, you know she

962
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: was always fearful of that whole situation and that I

963
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: wasn't aware of to afterwards. You know, that's a lot

964
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: of stress that can be put on a couple, especially

965
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: the woman in the couple, in the relationship, because all

966
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: you wanted a healthy child. That's do you want that miracle?

967
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: You want the five fingers and on one hand, five toes,

968
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: on another you know ten ten. You know that's what

969
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: you want when you when you bring a child in

970
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: the world physically, and then you want when they slap

971
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: them on the behind. You wanted the scream. You want

972
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: to be alert. And when you have sickle cell a

973
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: disease that, like you said, when it comes into your life,

974
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: it's costly, it's time consuming. Your child may spend many

975
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: hours and many days and maybe even many weeks into

976
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: the hospital under care, and it can never live a life.

977
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: But we on this show live in your Life. The

978
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: whole approach on that show is about showing people who

979
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: have the trait, people who have sickle cell disease living

980
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: successful lives. Correct, and it's correct. I mean, you know

981
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: there's some people that if you embrace your disease, if

982
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: you do what you're supposed to do, you should be

983
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: able to live your life like like anybody else. But

984
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: what the problem is we of the one hundred thousand

985
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: people that have this disease, we have lost meaning loss

986
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: to follow up, meaning they're just out there. We don't

987
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: know where they are. About seventy thousand of these people,

988
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: we don't know where they are because when you get older,

989
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, people don't if you are ashamed to have

990
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: this disease because it caused the problem in your work.

991
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: Meaning if I like say Kier right, Kier who is

992
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: the close to the show, said Carey as an actor, right,

993
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: So if he wants to be if he wants to

994
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: be in a movie and he has to tell them

995
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: that he has sickle cell, he may not get the

996
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: part because because they're gonna say, if he gets a

997
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: sickle cell crisis in the middle of filming, then they

998
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: got to shut it down. They can't he can't be

999
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: in the movie. So that means they're losing one hundred

1000
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: fifty two hundred thous dollars a day, they'd rather do

1001
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: somebody else, So that's discrimination. So and then they're out

1002
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: there suffering in silence. So we what we hope is

1003
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: that we with this show, we bring people out because

1004
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: there's treatments. There's treatments now newer treatments that can make

1005
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: your life a lot better. But we got no we

1006
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: had to know where you are, you know what I'm saying.

1007
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: So that that But here's the thing. We're talking about

1008
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: just America right now. Sure, AE hundred thousand, but that

1009
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: number swells when you get outside of the United States.

1010
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: Talk about the global impact of how sickle cell affects

1011
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: different countries and how different countries are dealing with that

1012
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, absolutely there are more people with sickle

1013
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: cell disease in the world than in the United States

1014
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: by far, because we remember this was this was something

1015
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: that was done. Um you know, this was an evolution

1016
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: from the African continent. This was an evolution so that

1017
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: we can remember that people are dying of sickle cell

1018
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: or dying of malaria, and so if you developed sickle

1019
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: cell trade, then you were able to survive malaria. That's

1020
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: where sickle cell trade camper was an evolution of survival Okay,

1021
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: So now what you gotta remember is the subsherent part

1022
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: of Africa that's that has that issue. But if you

1023
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: start going towards you know, Saudi Arabia, and you start

1024
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: going towards Iraq and Turkey, all these people migrated from

1025
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: the same place, so they have more sickle cell disease

1026
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: and trade over there. But the issue is they don't

1027
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: have universal screening. So they're just dying. They're just living

1028
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: a horrible life because they just don't even know that

1029
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: they have it. So that's why this is a global issue.

1030
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: And so I presented this concept at the south By

1031
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: Southwest conference. That's where a bunch of nineteen year old

1032
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: billionaires with hoodies go and talk about how they can

1033
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: save the world, right, And these dudes, when I explain

1034
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: to them, well happen, they said, wait a minute, we

1035
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: have a worldwide problem, a worldwide problem, and we're not

1036
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: doing something about it because of the lack of that

1037
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: aggregation of the data that already exists. Think about that.

1038
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: That's criminal. It wouldn't be doing that in any other disease.

1039
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, And that's why I wanted to bring that

1040
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: up because a lot of people look at the sickle

1041
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: cell as just a black illness, a black disease, a

1042
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: black something that tied to our culture. But it's really

1043
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: a global theme where when when you get out of

1044
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand you start going worldwide, we get into

1045
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: the millions, not one hundred thousand, not to ten, not

1046
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: two or four people, We go into the millions of

1047
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: people who are impacted are affected by sickle cell traite,

1048
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: which in turn leads to sickle cell disease. If the

1049
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: person you are happing to have a childhood and you'll

1050
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: both have the trait, then you can eventually lead that

1051
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: to one out of four chances to your child can

1052
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease. As a person who has sickle

1053
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: cell traite? What things should I be looking out for

1054
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm living a healthy life or

1055
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: a long life and not doing it things? Silly, doctor Bear.

1056
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: The first thing you need to do is you need

1057
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: to make sure that you get enough sleep and get

1058
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: enough water. Okay, those are the things that you just

1059
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: need to do just to be help there. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if you have sickle cell trade or not. You

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Speaker 1: just need to get enough sleep, get enough water, and

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Speaker 1: decrease the amount of stress in your life. That's across

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Speaker 1: the board, okay, but with somebody with sickle cell trade

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Speaker 1: or disease, you need to make sure you eat well.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get this processed food out of your life.

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Speaker 1: You gotta eat more plants, you gotta eat more vegetables,

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Speaker 1: you gotta eat more things that are that are good

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Speaker 1: for you and decrease some of this processed food. That's

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Speaker 1: another thing. Also, you gotta listen to your body. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you have sickle cell traits. The reason why people

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Speaker 1: sickle cell trade dies not because they just all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden have this attack and fall out. That's not

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Speaker 1: what happens. They just don't know that they have sickle

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Speaker 1: cell trades. Or when they're working out and they start

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Speaker 1: feeling faint, they think that that's what's supposed to happen

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Speaker 1: because that's just normal, and then they just keep pushing

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Speaker 1: and pushing and pushing, and that's when they have the problem. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: if you got to listen to your body, If you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to a high altitude environment, if you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna be working out a lot and you

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Speaker 1: haven't worked out before and you start having these issues,

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Speaker 1: just stop. Just stop, hydrate and rest and then you'll

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Speaker 1: be absolutely fine. I also tell people with sickle cell

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Speaker 1: trait they probably should be taking some folate in their

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Speaker 1: multi vitamin. They need to make sure that they have

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Speaker 1: enough vitamins in the body because your body to make

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Speaker 1: red blood cells needs vitamins and it needs folate folic acid,

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Speaker 1: and that is in every multi vitamin. But I would

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Speaker 1: say take a little bit more because it can't hurt you, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I want you to do that. And also if

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Speaker 1: you're out there in your sickle cell disease, I really

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Speaker 1: want you to think about there's a lot of medicines

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Speaker 1: go and look at some of them because they're out there,

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Speaker 1: and we need you to get your get your mind

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Speaker 1: right and then come out of the out of the hiding.

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Speaker 1: We need to fix this situation. Well, you know that

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Speaker 1: it's all about the information, and well one thing on

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Speaker 1: this show, I try to bring information because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that this is show I always talking about entrepreneurship

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Speaker 1: and how to succeed. But if your health isn't right,

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Speaker 1: because you're not ill, but certain things have to happen

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Speaker 1: that makes you successful. How can we get in touch

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Speaker 1: with you, doctor A Bear or you on social because

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Speaker 1: I definitely want people to follow up because your cause

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Speaker 1: is to provide that information. Your cause is to make

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Speaker 1: A Bear m D. On Twitter it's at Corey A

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Speaker 1: A Bear m D. Cool. Thank you for coming on

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