1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Giants Hangout, brought to you by Crestron 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: and Madeleine Burke, joined by Howard Cross and Russ Salzburg 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: and guys. It is Week one, the long awaited Week one. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: So much to get into this season this week Giants 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: taking on the Vikings on Sunday. A lot of storylines 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: to look at in this matchup, but also with this 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Giants team of course, starting with this is the first 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: time we're going to be seeing what this year's Giants 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: actually look like. I know we've talked about it at 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: length with the preseason, and you know how much of 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: it just sample that is. But Russ, I know that 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, Malik Neighbors, the addition of Devin 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Singletary the offensive line. What are your early impressions of 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: what this offense is going to bring? 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, like you just said, Madeline, we're really 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: going to see everybody all the pieces together come Sunday 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: afternoon against the Vikings. But to me, you know, it's 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: it's like the old line, the hip bones connected to 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: the thigh bone, a thigh bone, it's. 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: All got to work together. 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: You know, Day says all the time, there is no 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: team sport like football because it takes all eleven guys 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: to be cohesive and work together. We can talk all 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: we want about Malik Neighbors, and that goes along with 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Jaylen Hyatt, goes along with Darius Slayton and Wanda Robinson. 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has to get him the ball, and if 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: this revamp, revamped offensive line holds up, I think Daniel's 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: going to have time to get on the ball. And 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: the other thing that drives me crazy, everybody is waiting. 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: It's me and I hate to say it, a lot 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: of it is the media that covers the Giants. They're 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: waiting for him to do something wrong. If it throws 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: an incomplete pass, it's a big deal. And something stuck out. 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: At the end of the Houston preseason game. You and 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: Howard were sitting together at the end of the game 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: and I said, thank goodness, somebody has some common sense. 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: Howard said, after the little bit of a shake his time, 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: I thought Daniel looked pretty good. I don't know if 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: you remember that, Howard, but he said, I thought Daniel 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: looked pretty good. Bumpy start, and he recovered. And to me, 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: that's what it's all been about. In preseason when the 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: first day of training camp, everybody was talking about, well, 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: this pass is incompleted, that passes incomplete. The most important 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,279 Speaker 2: thing to me was watching him roun fun and movirality 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: looks really good. So I think the offensive line, it's 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: an old cliche. I think the offense has a chance 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: to be really good. The question is can they stay 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: really healthy because we know what poor health has done 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: to us the past few years. 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: Well, you know that's that's a good point. Ross. 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 5: I think you know a big thing about the offenses 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 5: this year is that the offensive line has looked good. 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 5: And when you see it in the pre see them 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 5: say in those joint practices, But in the preseason games, 55 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 5: you didn't see a lot of sacks, a lot of pressures, 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: a lot of hits. And that's because the guys are 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: are together playing the veterans there now. And it wasn't 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: the starters always in those preseason games. It was a 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: second team and the third team, and they were holding 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: up pretty good. 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: In the past. That wasn't the case. When we played 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: preseason games. 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: It looked like everybody was running through the back to 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 5: dodging people before they got the ball. Half the time, 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks are running for their lives, so it looks 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 5: better right off the bat. So that guy was saying 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 5: for the last couple of years with the offensive line 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: isn't fixed. 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: Nothing's fixed. 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: So as far as Daniel goes, I think Daniel's gonna 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: have a pretty good year. The only thing I worry 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 5: about Dane. I do mean this sincerely. Daniel had a knee. 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: You know, he had an ACL. Have an ACL. You 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 5: can't get down, you can't slide, or it's just not 75 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 5: normal to you. Right away, He's gonna have to figure 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: out how to get down, how to slide when he 77 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 5: gets in the open field. 78 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: Outside of that, he's gonna be pretty good. 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, he's gonna have some receivers that will 80 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: go get the ball. 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: Now. 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: You know, Milani Neighbors is a really talented receiver, very talented. 83 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 5: He says he's open all the time even when he's not. 84 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: So I'm happy to hear that. I'm happy to see that. 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: I think Singletary is gonna be a great back for 86 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: the thing, because again, if you're not dodging people at 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage before you get started, you can 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: be a good back. He's going to be a good back. 89 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: It's gonna be exciting to watch him. It's gonna be 90 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: a slighting to watch the neighbors like to watch the 91 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 5: entire offense this year, and I'm happy for him. 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: Howard, that's a good point that you made though about 93 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: DJ sliding, because I think he's already the type of 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: player who's going to want to try to get that 95 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: extra five yards, is going to want to kind of 96 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: push through it. Oh, let me get down and protect 97 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: myself because he's a tough guy and he wants to 98 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: play tough and he wants to play physical. And now, 99 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: coming off the acl like you mentioned, and the kind 100 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: of the way that that ship changes, sliding are the 101 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: way that your body works. And we've seen him all 102 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: spring and all summer wearing that sleeve on his leg. 103 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: He said he's not gonna be wearing it during the games. 104 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: He says he feels good. Davel's been kind of calling 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: up a lot of live action pressure in eleven on 106 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: eleven to make sure that he gets he feels that rush, 107 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: and he feels that pressure, so he's ready for it 108 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: when Week one comes. But you know, anytime, like you've said, 109 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: coming off an injury, and we've seen other players and 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: other positions. You know. Wandelle Robinson talked about coming off 111 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: his acl last season and how different it feels going 112 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: into this year, just being fully healthy and not having 113 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to think about it. Daniel has talked about how he's 114 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: not quite thinking about it, but it is still relatively fresh. 115 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this happened in week eight of last season. 116 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: I don't know about the yes, it's fresh, the part 117 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 5: that bothers me and rustles in it. I don't think 118 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 5: I've watched a lot of the practices. I watched, you know, 119 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 5: preseason games everything. I never saw him slide. I just 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 5: never saw him do it. And I'm thinking, you got 121 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 5: to be able to get down. I know there's a 122 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: lot of cases you can run and run over people, 123 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 5: but you do have to get down also, And I 124 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: don't know, you know, not doing it, not practicing it, 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 5: not not seeing it. 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: That's that would be the thing that scares me the most. 127 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: You know what, how now that you say it, I 128 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: don't recall seeing him slide. Maybe maybe like a half 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: a slide. I'm being serious. I'm trying to recall, but 130 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: I don't see that one was I mean it in 131 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: that game again, it was like a fourteen yard gain 132 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: of something kind of up that was kind of falling 133 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: forward that wasn't wasn't didn't. 134 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: They didn't let him go down. They didn't they hit him. 135 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 5: They cuddled him like, hey, okay, So they're. 136 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: Not gonna be They're not gonna be doing that games 137 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: going forward. 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: So no, you know, two things. 139 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Getting back to the offensive line, and it's not just 140 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: that the offensive line has improved with the veterans, but 141 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: you brought out a point, Howard, even the backups that 142 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everybody who's complaining in the last 143 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: couple of years there was no offensive line. Now there's 144 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: an offensive line. But there seems to be depth along 145 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: the offensive line. I'm not saying they're all Pro Bowlers 146 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: and all Pro or anything like that, but it just 147 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: seems veteran maturity and depth. And you know, Mattlin, you're 148 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: in that locker room with me after you know, and 149 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: everybody else after practices. I observe and what I've been 150 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: seeing in that locker room, in particular, the group of 151 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: offensive linemen, it's a very mature group. There's a lot 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: of conversation. Guys come up to them, they talk with them, 153 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: I think there's a real leadership. Fact that, not that 154 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: there wasn't leadership last year. 155 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: You know. 156 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: I read some nonsense this weekend about a toxic, dysfunctional 157 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: operation that in the Daily News, which to me was 158 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of bs. Listen, when you're losing, when you're 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: six and eleven, nobody's happy, okay. But I just think 160 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: they have really good leadership this year case. I think 161 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: it's a good group. 162 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: Not. 163 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: The bottom line is what you do in the locker 164 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: room doesn't matter unless you do it on a field. 165 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: So they got to do it on. 166 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: A field, right, well, and the offensive line is, you 167 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: guys well know, is the one position group where it's 168 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the five fingers have to play as a hand, right. 169 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: It's not five individual guys doing their individual job. It's 170 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: them working as a unit and having that familiarity and 171 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: building that familiarity. And we didn't see the starting offensive 172 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: line unit practicing together until very late in the summer 173 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: for the first time. But there is familiarity already built 174 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: in there because you've got on the right side Jermaine A. 175 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: Luminor and Greg Van Rotin, who have familiarity there from 176 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. They played alongside one another in Las Vegas 177 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: and under offensive line coach Carmen Brisilla, who was brought 178 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: in as well, bringing in John Runyon as well as 179 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: shot up the left side, Andrew Thomas, the Pro Bowl 180 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: caliber left tackle, and then of course John Michael Schmidz 181 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: who's been dealing with a shoulder injury this summer, but 182 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: he's good to go and he's ready. And I think 183 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: that this offensive line, if you look at it as 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: a unit, at this starting unit, seems to be a 185 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: much stronger unit than we've had in years. 186 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: Pass hour. 187 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, they've done, like I said, again, done a great job. 188 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 5: The coach is doing a great job that the entire 189 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 5: group has been better. You know, we want them to 190 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 5: be healthy. The first five be healthy, the second five 191 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: to be healthy. Then you know that could that could 192 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: really change it change the year. It's the difference between 193 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: the one score games they lost a year ago and 194 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: the one scorer games they won. 195 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: Two years ago. 196 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 5: So that's that's kind of what the offensive line is 197 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: gonna where they make the biggest difference. 198 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, how I'm gonna I'll defer to you because you 199 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: played the position for a lot of years with the Giants. 200 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: You know, Daniel Bellinger to me, is a guy that 201 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: you know, when Waller came, Daniel. 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: Was kind of forgotten about. 203 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of skill with Daniel Bellinger, 204 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 2: you know, I think he can excel at that position. 205 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, he's gonna be a pretty good player. 206 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: I don't think that that people look at him as 207 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 5: the the great receiving tight end because he does so 208 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 5: much blocking and when you're you know, people try to 209 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: label you. 210 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: If they throw him the ball, he catches it. 211 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: Uh. He does a pretty good job blocking in the 212 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 5: run game. So I think he's gonna be great. I 213 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: think THEO also is gonna be He's gonna be pretty good. 214 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 5: Is he's a he's a much bigger kid than I 215 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 5: thought he was. I thought he was gonna be like, 216 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: you know, there's kind of a you know, receiver type 217 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 5: tight end, like small, but he's a he's a big 218 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 5: kid and he's gonna be and he carries carries the 219 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 5: weight well, he blocks very well, and he's gonna be 220 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 5: a great addition. 221 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Johnson, of course you're talking about Penn State Brookie. Yeah, 222 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, big, big tight end who's got a 223 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: good catch radius. Even though you know, a lot of 224 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: his UH draft analysis essentially was on his blocking as well. 225 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the last tight end, what's my goodness. Yeah, 226 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 5: he is the massive Like he's gonna be a guy 227 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: that's gonna be in the game that if they need 228 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 5: something extra, not not just blocking, but just something extra. 229 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 5: He's going to change a lot of people's views other 230 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 5: tight ends for the Giants because he's going to devastate 231 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: some guys. He's a massive man. 232 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 233 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: It's the Giants positions. You know, we've talked about to 234 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: We touched on it a little bit at the beginning, 235 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: the running back position, Devin Singletary. You know, it was 236 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: a sentimental moment for Giants fans losing Saquon Barkley and 237 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: free agency to the Philadelphia Eagles. A new twenty six 238 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: in the building. Devin Singletary has worn twenty six his 239 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: entire career, so exhale Giants fans. He's not trying to 240 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: replace anyone, but this is a man who is coming 241 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: off a career year in Houston. I mean, he had 242 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: almost nine hundred yards rushing, another couple hundred on the 243 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: receiving end. And it's also a running back who takes 244 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of pride in blocking and past protecting. He 245 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: used to play nickel when he was coming up in football, 246 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: and he says, I kind of misplaying defense, but you know, 247 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: blocking a little bit gives me that physicality that I 248 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: miss and that I long for. Devin Singletary also a 249 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: guy who's very familiar with Brian Dabele, his offense, the 250 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: way he runs an offense. And Dabele did say this week, 251 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, I will be calling place. 252 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: It's something that we knew kind of he had been 253 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: doing throughout the summer and had expected, but he said 254 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: definitively this season he will be calling place. So when 255 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: you add a guy like Devin Singletary who's got that familiarity, Russ, 256 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: what does that do for this offense? 257 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: Well, I liked when I heard that they were getting Singletary. 258 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: I was really excited about that. And let's make one 259 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: thing clear. You brought it up, Madeline, We're not talking 260 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: about He's not a new Saquon. 261 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: He's Devin. He's not a new Saquon. He's Devin. 262 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: He's not the same size, different kind of player, but 263 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: he's a Listen, his nickname kind of tells it all. 264 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: His nickname is motor, that's what the coaches call him. 265 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: And I remember him when he first came up with Buffalo, 266 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: I'd say, who is this guy? I mean, he could 267 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: really play so and then as you said, you know, 268 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: last year he had a career year. You know, I 269 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: hate to sound like a broken record with a bunch 270 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: of cliches. It's all about staying healthy. I mean, think 271 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: about what we're talking about. We will talk about Daniel 272 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: Jones not being healthy. We were Daniel Jones the quarterback 273 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: and the star running back Saquon Barkley. You know, the 274 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: last two three years, it was like is he gonna 275 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: be in? Is he gonna be out? Is he gonna 276 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: be wounded? Is he gonna be healthy? So I mean, 277 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: to me, if if Devin can play and Devin is healthy, 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: you know he's he's small in stature, but to me, 279 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: he kind of runs big, if that makes sense. 280 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: Howard he does. He does a great job. 281 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: He has great balance, that quick that quick step off 282 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: the one foot hop and stuff when you get in 283 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: the hold. That the things you like to see from backs. 284 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 5: You have a good running back room. Even Gray showed 285 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 5: some some massive improvements over over the off off season, 286 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 5: during the preseason, and and during the training camp, and 287 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 5: the rookie running back is coming. Well, I don't know 288 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 5: if he's gonna be healthier for the game or not, 289 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 5: but if he's healthy, yeah, when he when he gets healthy, 290 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 5: Tracy's kind of like all around back and can do 291 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: a lot of different things. 292 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, you got a great running back room right now. 293 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 5: We really have two guys I think, and I don't 294 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 5: know exactly what Tracy's status is going to be, but 295 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 5: those those two guys are going to be dynamic in 296 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 5: the run game. 297 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: Tracy, of course played wide receiver, was converted to running 299 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: back late in his career. So even though he had 300 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: a longer college career, he's got a lot less tread 301 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: on his tires because he played running back for much 302 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: shorter part of it. 303 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: Well, while we're expounding on all this wonderful offensive optimism 304 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: that we have, how about the defense. You know, you're right, 305 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: and let's let's talk about the new addition from an 306 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: old friend, Derry Jackson. 307 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: Now, Dorriy Jackson's is a welcome back. You know, the 308 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 5: secondary was kind of a question. You had banks who 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: was the start of flat who could have been the 310 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: guy or the opposite banks, but Flat kind of got 311 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: banged up and we don't know how healthy he's going 312 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: to be. And then everybody else was just trying to 313 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: fill in to make a position there, And I'm glad 314 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: that they brought Dorris Jackson back. You kind of hope 315 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: at the end of training camp and everything's over with 316 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 5: that the couple veterans are going to fall off the 317 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 5: tree and you're gonna be able to find the guy 318 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 5: that can come in and fit your system. But out 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: of all the positions in football, cornerback is not the 320 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: position that somebody just lets a great cornerback go right away. 321 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: And there will be guys out there like a Dori 322 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: Jackson who are really good corners, but there won't be 323 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: guys that are like, hey man, I can't believe this 324 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 5: guy's out in the market. They do it with safeties, 325 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: but they don't do it with cornerbacks, right, and. 326 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Dori Jackson coming into a cornerback room with the giants 327 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: that you know, needed a little bit of help, needed 328 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: veteran assistant. Last year, I mean, for the majority of 329 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: his career, Dorry was wearing twenty two to twenty two 330 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: of course is Drew Phillips number now, so Dorry's going 331 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: to be wearing twenty one in this iteration of the Giants. 332 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: But you know, coming back, you know, first practice of 333 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: the week, full padded practice and all that kind of stuff. 334 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Is they gear up for the Vikings on Sunday, and 335 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: a door even admitted, hey, you know, it's a little 336 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: different getting in football shape on a field versustaining in shape, 337 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: you know when you're at home and working out in 338 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: the gym. And so we'll see how much or how 339 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: ready Adorri is for Sunday. But this is a tough 340 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: test with these young corners because you know, you got 341 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, you got Jordan Addison, you got some really 342 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: skilled receivers on this Vikings team, and this young cornerback 343 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: group with uh, you know Cordell Flott and Andy tay 344 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Banks back there seeing how they're going to be going 345 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: up against rookies and. 346 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: The rookies yeah exactly, Yeah, well that brings us to 347 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: the people in front of them. 348 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know about YouTube. 349 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: But I am really you know, we've been talking about 350 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: it and we see it in training camp and some preseason, 351 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: but to see burns and Cavon do their thing together. 352 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm anxious to see. I really believe that 353 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: can be a dynamic duo coming from each side. 354 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: But you know, seeing is believing. 355 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: I mean the one thing about Burns he came in, 356 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: you know, we were just talking before or about leadership. 357 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: Burns sounds stupid because they're all men. But Burns to me. 358 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: Is like a man's man. 359 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: You know, the way he conducts himself on the field 360 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: and in the locker room. There's a presence when I 361 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: see him. He doesn't strike me as a guy who's 362 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: been here for you know, going into his first season. 363 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: He strikes me as a guy there's leadership. He knows 364 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: what his contract is, he knows what is expected of him, 365 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: and to me, he embraces anything that's coming his way. 366 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: I don't think any pressure or anything's going to bother him. 367 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: I think he's the guy who's going to be supplying 368 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: the pressure well. 369 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: And like you said, supplying the pressure and Burns and 370 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: Kvon on the edge are two very different styles. And 371 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: supplying the pressure right Caveon has said, he's like, I'm 372 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: more of like a direct down the line, just run 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: right after pressure, where Burns is going to get you 374 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: on your toes and gets you off your feet and 375 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: kind of keep you off balance and having stylistically, how 376 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: are those two differences off the edge and the way 377 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: that they're able to do it, Especially in a shame 378 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: bone defense, it's so reliant on the front four and 379 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: that pressure that that causes in a different way. You know, 380 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: we've talked about how you know, wing Martindale's defense of 381 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: yours pass was all about blitz, split splitz. There is 382 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: still a lot of pressure and a lot of aggressiveness 383 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: with Shane Bowen's defense, but it comes in a different way. 384 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: And how I'd refer to you to articulate just like 385 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: how that is. 386 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 5: Well, you know, splitzing is great, but you always leave somebody. 387 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 5: You've got to have a really heavy manned man in 388 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: the back end with the safeties and corners. You've got 389 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: to be able to figure out how to cover guys. 390 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: What a very basic zone defense in the secondary you 391 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 5: can bring. If your front four guys can bring pressure, 392 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 5: then you can really have a chance to like mess 393 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 5: teams up because zone is a little harder the pass 394 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 5: against when when you got got four guys standing in 395 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: your face every place. That's the basics of it, to 396 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: be as simple as possible. But think about this. You 397 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 5: got Burns on one side, a guy can go inside, 398 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 5: outside around you, beat you with the speed, dip the 399 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 5: show older. You got Thibodau on the other side, just 400 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 5: powering over you and going around the edge. Then you 401 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 5: got Dexter in the middle. So it's like you're starting 402 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 5: to take away double teams. All of a sudden, you 403 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 5: can't lean ahead, you bet to one side or the other. 404 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 5: If one of the interiors linement outside of Dexter get 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 5: gets a little more, just a little more pressure, it's 406 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 5: gonna be hard for guys to block the four guys 407 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: at the same time standing in there. They bring a 408 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: fifth guy, there'll be no matchups. There'll be a lot 409 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: of I would say matchup nightmares. 410 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: To be polite, you know, you bring up Dexter. I 411 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't say it amazes me, but Dexter, he just appears 412 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: to be getting better and better all the time. He 413 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: has really you know, he embraces his leadership role, but 414 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: he just his athleticism for a guy his size is 415 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: really you don't see that too often. 416 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: He just God, Dexter looks like that that big kids. 417 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: You always want to check his way and Pop Warner 418 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: games and see how playing with a little kids. 419 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: Oh he's aging though it's not. 420 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: You can't be. 421 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: No, his athleticism is quite something. But he he prides himself, 422 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: which you know everybody should be that way, but they're not. 423 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: He prides himself on continuing to want to get better 424 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: and better, and he's at you know, he's at an 425 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: all pro level. 426 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: He's quite something right now. 427 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he said before this season started, he said, 428 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to be a Pro 429 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Bowler by myself. That says a lot. 430 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did. 431 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: Number one, He's got the confidence and the certainty and 432 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: the understanding that yes, he is a Pro Bowl player, 433 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: but also he wants his play and he's time to 434 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: elevate his teammates so that he doesn't have to be 435 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl by himself this year. That's a 436 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: great a great hold on My dog is going to 437 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: get caught up in this court. 438 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean or her. 439 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: And awesome man, thinking about thinking about the Pro Bowls, 440 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 5: you could potentially have three or four guys. 441 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: My teeth full of dogs on this giant. 442 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: Somehow I expected a dog looking like that. I didn't 443 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: expect you to be holding up a Rottwiler or a 444 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: pitbull man. 445 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like there could be a few Pro bowls. 446 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: Burns could be a Pro Bowl. 447 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: Tibodall could get a Pro Bowl because he's gonna have 448 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 5: probably double digit sacks. You know, Decks could be Pro Bowl. 449 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 5: I expect Bobby A. Kaake to get a real look 450 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 5: after especially if he can follow up this season like 451 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: you had last year and not missing the game and 452 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: kind of leading the team. So you can have a 453 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: few guys and if those guys are playing well, that'll 454 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 5: give Banks a little more attention on the outside. 455 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: You know, what can we expect Howard? What you know 456 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: because I don't know. I mean, here's a guy who 457 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: was very good, but you know he's been marred his career, 458 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, the last few years, marred by injury. What 459 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: you think we can get out of a disease? 460 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: O J. 461 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: Lari Man, he's gonna be the spell guy. 462 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 5: He's gonna be the guy that comes in to kind 463 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 5: of take take take on the quote quote unquote rest 464 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 5: sperience and give these guys a break if they're in 465 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 5: there for a long time. He also could be the 466 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 5: guy if if possible that they could put into the game. 467 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 5: You know, back in the day they had justin Tuck 468 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: and and and JPP and all those guys and put 469 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: almost like you know, three three defensive three three three 470 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: three defensive ends in the game, excuse me, and one 471 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 5: and one d tackle to rush the passer. So it 472 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 5: just depends, like you know, he came into the league 473 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 5: on a pitch count. Uh, he's he's been. They've been 474 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: trying to play him and trying to play him, and 475 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 5: he's been on the pitch count. But now he has 476 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: a player in front of him on both sides of 477 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: the ball, I mean, on both sides of the line 478 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: that he could actually they could use his pitch count 479 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 5: to the best of his ability. He'll still have to 480 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 5: be able to, you know, defend against the run because 481 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 5: you can't hide that if he's out there and they say, okay, 482 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 5: well they got all their rushers, that's just run at him. 483 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 5: So he's gonna have to be able to stand up 484 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 5: against the run. But he does have that speed and 485 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 5: that burst that will give him a chance to you know, 486 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: to really scare quarterbacks well, and we're. 487 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: Going to be seeing that first look of it all 488 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday because the Giants hosting the Vikings Week one 489 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: at MetLife one PM to start the season. We got 490 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about this Vikings team coming 491 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: in here. Guys. I mean, you got Sam Darnold at quarterback, 492 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: you got we mentioned the wide receivers, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, 493 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: that talent, their TJ hawckets and their their tight end 494 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: is on ir right now to start the season. But 495 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, they've got a lot of talented the linebackers 496 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Andrew van Ginkel, Dallas Turner, Jonathan Gernard. You know, some 497 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: strong corners Stefan Gilmour, Shaq Griffin, Byron Murphy on the 498 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: defensive side, you know, just to name a few. When 499 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: you look at this Minnesota team as a whole, there 500 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: seem to be, narrative wise, a lot of parallels with 501 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: the way that the Giants are coming into twenty twenty four, 502 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: which is, you know, there's a lot of questions, a 503 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty as to what is the identity of 504 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: this Minnesota team. So when you look at them on paper, 505 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, Russ, I'll start with you here, what are 506 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: you looking at on paper? With this Minnesota team saying Okay, 507 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: this is what I expect. 508 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know you just said a mouthful in terms 509 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: of uncertainty. And because of the uncertainty, I felt this 510 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: when I looked at the schedule, I think the Giants, 511 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: you know, you hate to put a mark and say, well, 512 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: they got to get this game. They got to get 513 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: this game, but it can set a tone. I looked 514 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: at the schedule, and I looked at this game, and 515 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: I looked at the next one coming up against the Commanders, 516 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: and you know how the world is, Madeline and Howard. 517 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: A good start gets everybody feeling good. It's it builds. Listen, 518 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: winning builds confidence, Losing goes in the opposite direction. And 519 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: I just felt these two games. The season doesn't go 520 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: in doubt if they don't get them. But I think 521 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: it's very important not just to get the Vikings game. 522 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: It's important to get the Commander's game as well. Now again, 523 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: you know what, you can't win the Commander's game and 524 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: say you wont two in a row before you win 525 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: the Vikings game. But I really, listen, I think they're 526 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: two winnable games, and not only they two winnable games, 527 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: and how are you can maybe address this, but they 528 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: are games that with this team with so many questions around, 529 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: they get in particular Daniel Jones, you get a good 530 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: start out of these two games, then all of a sudden, 531 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: everybody's confidence and the naysayers shut up. 532 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: Well, Russe, I'll never go pass the game that you're playing. 533 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: That's that's the game thing one, right. I think when 534 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: I look at the Vikings, though, they're not quite the 535 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: team that we that that the Giants played or we 536 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 5: played back in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, 537 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two in the playoffs, because their defense is 538 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: a lot better. The quarterback play may have dropped because 539 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 5: you know, Cousins is not there, but the but the 540 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: defensive player, I think it has picked up a little bit. 541 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: I think I think their defensive coordinator is doing a 542 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 5: decent job now. I think it's gonna be a good 543 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 5: test for our offensive line if they can figure out 544 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 5: a way to like, you know, really get after these guys, 545 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: and if we can figure out ways to get the 546 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 5: balls or the receivers and the tight ends out of 547 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 5: the backfield even uh and run the ball with some 548 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: authority it this could be a great you know, uh 549 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: standing point for that offensive line, for Daniel, for everybody defensively, 550 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: it's gonna be a challenge. But the defensive front is 551 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: gonna have to put pressure on the quarterback. Sam Darnol 552 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 5: high picking the draft, great kids, been bouncing around a lot. 553 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 5: He's probably sitting there thinking, like, I got the best 554 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 5: receivers anybody can throw to these guys. Well, you put 555 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 5: pressure on them, we'll see, because he's had some good 556 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 5: receivers in the past. So they're gonna have to get 557 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 5: pressure on the quarterback constantly, constantly, constantly, and you know, 558 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 5: the corners are gonna have to stand up and you know, 559 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 5: be known. You know, it's gonna be a lot, a 560 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: lot tell a lot of the story will be told 561 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 5: by Belton, and it's a safety. He'll be trying to 562 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: like organize and get these guys in the right place 563 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: to try to keep these guys in check the entire game. 564 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: If you can keep those guys just semi in check 565 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 5: during the game, I do mean semi, you're gonna have 566 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 5: to you have. 567 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 4: To double them. 568 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 5: You have to double the guy on the outside, but 569 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: the other the other guy aren't you know, World beaters 570 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: They're just very consistent. Double the big play guy, keep 571 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: him in check and then see what happens from there. 572 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: Consistency is so key in this league, as you mentioned, 573 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: but you mentioned Sam Donald too. He's on his fourth 574 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: team in his young NFL career, number three overall pick 575 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, has a lot of talent, hasn't quite 576 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: found the fit. Is this going to be the fit 577 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: for him? We will see, we see right, not this week, 578 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: not this week. But you made a good point Russ too. 579 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: It's like these razor thin margins. I think the biggest 580 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: difference between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three and 581 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: the Giants realm was that in twenty twenty two, the 582 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: Giants won those thin margin games. In twenty twenty three 583 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: they didn't go in their favor. And so if you 584 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: get off to a strong start and you win the 585 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: close games, it bodes well for the season ahead. But 586 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, this is just week one. We got a 587 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: whole season to talk about Giants football. We're ready to go, 588 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: we are staying ready, we are hanging out, and we'll 589 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: be here every week with Giants hangouts. Russ Salzburg, Howard Cross. 590 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm madeleine Burg. Thanks for hanging out with Giants. Hangouts 591 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: brought to you by restaurant. We'll see you next week.