WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Getting Winded

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and it's just us. But we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it no problem. Everybody just calmed down.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the short stuff, that's right. I thought about getting

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<v Speaker 2>one together about this topic because my daughter Ruby got

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<v Speaker 2>the wind knocked out of her for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, a couple of weeks ago and told me

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I wasn't there when it happened. It happened

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<v Speaker 2>at school, and she said it was scary, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, listen, kiddo, that happened to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she got hit in the chest or something. But I,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, fell out of a tree about

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<v Speaker 2>probably about I mean, it wasn't super high, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably like seven or eight feet like directly on

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<v Speaker 2>my back and got the wind knocked out of me

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<v Speaker 2>really bad. I think maybe the only time that's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've never had it happen, it's a very panicky,

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<v Speaker 2>scary situation because you literally cannot get a breath. You're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I wish people could see me now because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sort of silently freaking out. But you cannot inhale

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<v Speaker 2>or exhale for a very short period, for a period

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<v Speaker 2>of a few seconds until you go and get your

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<v Speaker 2>breath again finally. But I was like, what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 2>And we found out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Also, that's funny that that coincided with somebody wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it in an email in the last week or so

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<v Speaker 1>asking for us to explain getting the really Yeah, so's

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the air right now? Apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I wish we could name that person, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize that, So thank you too, whoever that was.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's another another name for this. It's called frenospasm.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why it involves your frontic nerve, which controls

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<v Speaker 1>your diaphragm, which is essentially at the center of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And to understand I guess how all this works,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have to understand how we breathe, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, I'll tell everybody how you breathe. So that

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<v Speaker 1>diaphragm is a huge mass of like muscle and tendon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like dome shaped. It almost looks like

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<v Speaker 1>the insignia for the Star Trek Federation right right underneath

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<v Speaker 1>your lungs. I'm trying to bring some of our nerdier

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<v Speaker 1>fans back okay. And when it expands like we exhale,

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<v Speaker 1>because it forces our lungs, it forces air out of

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<v Speaker 1>our lungs. When we inhale again, the diaphragm contracts and

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<v Speaker 1>gets smaller so our lungs can fill with air. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they reach a point where they're low enough in pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>The air inside of our lungs is low enough in

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<v Speaker 1>pressure compared to the outside air pressure that the outside

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<v Speaker 1>air is like I can't stand it anymore, and rushes

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<v Speaker 1>in to fill our lungs up, which allows us to

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<v Speaker 1>breathe again.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. And if we're just hanging out, if we're relaxed,

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<v Speaker 2>or even if we're doing something athletic, the diaphragm is

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<v Speaker 2>working as it should. Breathing is involuntary. It's an automatic

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<v Speaker 2>function of our nervous system. Our body's just doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's really no problems that are happening. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>with getting winded happens when you get a either like

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<v Speaker 2>a sock to the chest. If you ever look up,

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<v Speaker 2>like like martial arts, like you know, where should I

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<v Speaker 2>hit somebody to take them down, they'll list a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of things like the side of the neck or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all these different places where you where you can punch

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<v Speaker 2>someone to kind of not paralyze them necessarily, but at

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<v Speaker 2>least stop them. And they always say, like, aim for

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<v Speaker 2>that solar plexus which is very near the diaphragm, and

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<v Speaker 2>it sort of acts like a bull's eye if you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say, like, punch there. And so if you

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<v Speaker 2>get socked right there, either by a fist or if

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<v Speaker 2>you fall out of that tree and land on your

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<v Speaker 2>back or something, it can potentially, you know, paralyze at

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<v Speaker 2>least temporarily paralyze that diaphragm because it's spasming to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where you're just nothing is working as it should

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it is super super scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So your diaphragm is either like you said, paralyzed

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<v Speaker 1>or else it's spasming. And when that happens, not only

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<v Speaker 1>can you not breathe in The reason you start panicking

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<v Speaker 1>immediately is part of getting the wind knocked out of you.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that name is so perfect is the

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<v Speaker 1>first part of it is all of the air in

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<v Speaker 1>your lungs is expelled suddenly, so you've got no air

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<v Speaker 1>in reserve and you can't breathe. That's why it sucks

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<v Speaker 1>so terribly terribly bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like dying for a few seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty much, I mean you are. The thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is from everything I've seen, it's not a life threatening thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Your diaphragm stops spasming like clockwork in just a few seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and you start breathing again. It takes a little while

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<v Speaker 1>for the panic to subside because your lizard brain is

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<v Speaker 1>on like overdrive, but you will start breathing again. And

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the solar plexus for a second, may I

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<v Speaker 1>send my soapbox for a second. Yeah, So, if you

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<v Speaker 1>read around the internet what causes the wind to get

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out of you or what happens, people will add

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<v Speaker 1>the solar plexus in and at base. The reason that

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<v Speaker 1>it gets added as exactly as you described it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where your diaphragm is, right, Yeah, But the solar plexus

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<v Speaker 1>specifically is a bundle of nerves that controls like your

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<v Speaker 1>guts and your stomach and your spleen and your liver

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. And it's actually the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>slows down digestion when you're in fight or flight mode.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that solar plexus bundle of nerves that's like, oh, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just sit here for a little while while we

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<v Speaker 1>run the problem that I found, and this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on my soapbox is plenty of people who have

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<v Speaker 1>written articles on this kind of thing go a step

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<v Speaker 1>further and say, well, your solar plexus is temporarily disabled,

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<v Speaker 1>and so your diaphragm doesn't work. Your solar plexus has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with sending nerve signals to your diet.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just drove me nuts to see it over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over again because they wouldn't they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>explain it. Yeah, they wouldn't go any further. They just

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<v Speaker 1>tossed that out. And for anybody who doesn't know or

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't care to look further, like that's that's some somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what they're talking about wrote this fact based,

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<v Speaker 1>researched article and it's just wrong. And that drives me

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy. Man. It's everywhere. It's just so lazy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just a form of spreading this information through laziness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think, well, first of all, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's very big deal, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not collectively cumulatively it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's uh, I think it's just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a more specific bullseye and a shorthand. For like, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, punch someone in the diaphragm or punch someone

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<v Speaker 2>in the stomach, it's it's a little bit higher than that.

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<v Speaker 2>The solar plexus is sort of midway between your navel

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess what is it, Yeah, the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>your pecks. So I think it's just sort of shorthand.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's such such a thing, such a shorthand, that

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<v Speaker 2>getting the wind knocked out of you, like a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>might even call it a solar plexus attack.

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<v Speaker 1>You go see a different doctor. The doctor I want

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<v Speaker 1>to shout out a guy named Kevin Tokoff t O

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<v Speaker 1>k O p h at Catalyst University. Yeah, he did

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<v Speaker 1>a great video on all this and went to the

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<v Speaker 1>trouble explaining all that that the solar plexus really doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything to do with it. It just happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, he didn't get it worked up like you though.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh No, No.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a cool pretty cool all right. Go check

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<v Speaker 2>out the video because it explains this in a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>cool way with visuals. But we'll be back to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what you might do if you have found that

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<v Speaker 2>you have had a solar plexus attack right after this man,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what can you do buddy if you get

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<v Speaker 2>if you get socked in land on your back or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the stuff that we found is basically talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the coach of the little league team. Basically, what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do is you have your your the person

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<v Speaker 1>who had the wind knocked out of them, take a

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<v Speaker 1>knee right, so when he's on the ground, when knees forward,

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<v Speaker 1>have them raise their hands above their head and arch

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<v Speaker 1>their back and stick their chest out. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>hold their hands up and kind of pull it back

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and tell them to breathe deeply, long inhalations,

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<v Speaker 1>short inhalations, long exhalations, and very quickly you will start

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<v Speaker 1>breathing normally or the kid will.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're by yourself, try to get into that

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<v Speaker 2>you know position and raise your arms yourself. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you're too freaked out, maybe just sit up and in

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<v Speaker 2>like a crowd's position. Try and again breathe through your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Breathe in through your mouth, that is, push your stomach out,

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<v Speaker 2>then suck your stomach back like try and be real,

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<v Speaker 2>just intentional with your breathing and try and relax, try

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<v Speaker 2>and stay calm. That's like the biggest thing is like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I know what's happened to me, and that

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<v Speaker 2>I will breathe again, So try and kind of dim

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<v Speaker 2>the panic a little bit. I've also seen where if

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<v Speaker 2>you're near a pillow, if you follow a tree, you're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of out of look, I guess, But if there

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<v Speaker 2>is a pillow, you can put a pillow under your

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<v Speaker 2>knees and head and that will, I guess, get you

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<v Speaker 2>in a better position. But again, if you're with someone,

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<v Speaker 2>try try to get them to help you or hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>they'll know to help you with the over the head stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I guess you could be a kid who knew

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to fall over a tree by they

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<v Speaker 1>were jumping out of a tree, so they strapped a

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<v Speaker 1>pillow to their front and back and then found it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work. But then you have the pillow sandy, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get to the breath back in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but just know that you'll start breathe. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>get that big inhale in a matter of seconds and

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<v Speaker 2>then you'll be just sort of breathing normally in a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes. Usually I saw like ten to fifteen, but

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen that. It really even takes that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Really long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember when I or what the circumstances were

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<v Speaker 1>for me getting the wind knocked on me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have. It feels like a rite of passage.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, and hopefully it does not happen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it does, stay calm.

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<v Speaker 1>One other thing though, If the breathing does not return

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<v Speaker 1>to normal within several minutes or ten to fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the hospital because you have like a frated,

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<v Speaker 1>fractured rib or a collapse long totally something worse could

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, but that's how you tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I have a tailbone bruise from the spring break,

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<v Speaker 2>like two and a half weeks ago that just will

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<v Speaker 2>not go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, those hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's just every time I'm sitting for a while

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<v Speaker 2>and I get up and walk, I just feels like

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<v Speaker 2>someone's stabbing me in my right butt cheek.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you need one of those inflatable donuts.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that would help. It's just I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a deep tailbone brush just takes a long long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to gaway. You're gonna tell us how you got that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it through rope trauma?

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<v Speaker 2>No golf cart injury, one of those deals. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>golf carts when you're sitting there, they have the little

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<v Speaker 2>handrail that's very hard on the side right by your hip.

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<v Speaker 2>If your going to sit down and your golf cart

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<v Speaker 2>buddy hits the gas and it just it just drove

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<v Speaker 2>right into my butt bone. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all right though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to end this one, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Short stuffed out.

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