Speaker 1: He is drinks chess, motherfucker podcast makes he's a legendary
Speaker 1: queen's rapper.
Speaker 2: He ain't sagreed as your boy in.
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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up it's DJ
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Speaker 2: of the biggest players, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one
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Speaker 4: What it good?
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Speaker 1: And this drink chests motherfucker. When we started the show,
Speaker 1: we started this show, we said we wanted to give
Speaker 1: it to legends.
Speaker 2: We wanted to give their flowers while they alive.
Speaker 1: These brothers here have both been dominated game, dominated two fields,
Speaker 1: both of them in movies.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Uh, these guys got their own podcast, both legends West Coast.
Speaker 1: So I want to start the show off by.
Speaker 2: Off top, giving them they fly off. We've been trying
Speaker 2: to sit down with them. Man. Now now now you
Speaker 2: had something to do with Malabos most wanted man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was in Malibu's most Wanting Man.
Speaker 5: Shout out to the homies Man High see the little
Speaker 5: homie high Sea and DJ Quick we actually actually crawl.
Speaker 5: And Quick was going up to the audition for the
Speaker 5: ship that day and there was a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: different little rappers up there and stuff Dance was up
Speaker 5: there on Hinky was popping at that time. He was
Speaker 5: up there and they was like, they want the motherfuckers
Speaker 5: to really battle.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They want the motherfuckers to really battle, you know, so
Speaker 5: I want smacked a few kissing.
Speaker 2: Now. Eight. I always wanted to know why you never
Speaker 2: put a G in the.
Speaker 3: Eight experienced in hardcore thumping.
Speaker 1: Hear you say that you got your name from cars one.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know, back then it was big on
Speaker 3: the numbers and the brushes and mcs and all that.
Speaker 3: So I just went with MC eight man, trying to
Speaker 3: be different, you know what I'm saying. But I was
Speaker 3: a high fan of KRS one, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: So that's where it came from. I tried to pattern
Speaker 3: the after that because I always wanted to do this stand.
Speaker 1: But now, if you know what's funny shit, right, I
Speaker 1: tell the story all the time. This is part of
Speaker 1: the story I didn't say. John Singleton was my homie, right,
Speaker 1: and like before he passed, I was always like like
Speaker 1: fu with him, like yo, when you're gonna put me
Speaker 1: in snowfall. And he looked at me one time and said,
Speaker 1: you will never be a snowball.
Speaker 2: He said, your East Coast accent.
Speaker 1: It's so fucked up you I could never pass for
Speaker 1: a West Coast actor. He said, no matter what you
Speaker 1: do nor you can't get away from it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, So what I was going to do?
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I told this that side of
Speaker 1: the story. This is the side of the story that
Speaker 1: I didn't tell. If John Sigginson told me that one
Speaker 1: more time, what I was going to do was I
Speaker 1: was gonna go hang out with you for a month,
Speaker 1: because boy, let me just take you something. If you
Speaker 1: blond somebody and they hear you talk West Coast all day,
Speaker 1: okay all day?
Speaker 2: Like, have you ever tried to like do another accent off?
Speaker 3: No, I've never been asked, you know, movies or whatever.
Speaker 3: Even with the video game Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: was just like du it's distinctive. I guess you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and it presents West Coast. So I
Speaker 3: love that ship all day.
Speaker 1: But I heard you're in Grand Theft Auto. But you
Speaker 1: never played Grand Theft Orto.
Speaker 3: I played that ship. I get dizzy as fuck playing
Speaker 3: and moving around fucking game feel, So no, I never played.
Speaker 1: The ship, never played your own character. No live, I
Speaker 1: would have did that. Yeah, I was in depth jeh
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't play with no one else was just
Speaker 1: use myself.
Speaker 3: So never I never got to play it. I mean
Speaker 3: I wasn't interested in it. Doing the ship was all
Speaker 3: The kids loved it, you know when I came home, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they loved it. But I never played the ship, never
Speaker 3: even watched the ship.
Speaker 1: But I heard you say that Park was at the
Speaker 1: table reads right for Minister Society. Yeah, everyone thought this speculation.
Speaker 1: So you you you said one he was supposed to
Speaker 1: be Sharif.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's kind of well known though it's known.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they talked about they wanted him to
Speaker 3: play Shariff.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to be the positive character.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that he didn't want to be it, but
Speaker 3: he want at them to show why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to twist, he wanted to change the character.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to do it right, Like, okay, if
Speaker 3: you you know, you got Therens being whole dog, and
Speaker 3: then Eights doing this, and then everybody has these characters
Speaker 3: where you know they're heavily neighborhood. But he's supposed to
Speaker 3: be the voice of reason, and we all know Tupac,
Speaker 3: you know, with his roles and all that shit. He
Speaker 3: wasn't a voice of reason, so why and I, you know,
Speaker 3: the noble one. So he wanted them to at least
Speaker 3: show why he changed. Show me killing a nigga or something,
Speaker 3: Show my nigga going there, show a nigga going to jail,
Speaker 3: or some ship and me getting changed in jail or something.
Speaker 3: But y'all got to show why I became him when
Speaker 3: we in this motherfucking land of everybody's notorious.
Speaker 2: So he didn't want to just change the whole not
Speaker 2: tell your ass.
Speaker 3: He wasn't doing no interview, Yes.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 5: He on the pop on that side, start asks a question.
Speaker 1: And ship yeah, so, oh man, how how has West Coast?
Speaker 2: And it is a question for both of y'all because I.
Speaker 1: Remember the West Coast sound being like Roger Troup Man
Speaker 1: like that type of thing. Then it turned gangster and
Speaker 1: then it turned still gangster. But it's like this new age.
Speaker 1: How are you embracing the new age? And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking Kendrick. I'm talking about the new the new up
Speaker 1: and coming West Coast artists and questions both of y'all.
Speaker 5: Still you know what, I embraced all of the main
Speaker 5: time of little homies out there getting to their money
Speaker 5: and getting to their bag and everything. But I think
Speaker 5: the thing that made hip hop hip hop was the
Speaker 5: regional thing, Like you listen to somebody like when I
Speaker 5: listened to y'all album, Huh, I got a story on
Speaker 5: based on where y'all was from. I'm saying, when you're
Speaker 5: easy in them, you're supposed to be able to get
Speaker 5: a reflection the content. And I think as long as
Speaker 5: they stay, I think if everybody just stay in they
Speaker 5: land and to make the game a little bit more better,
Speaker 5: it'd be a lot more parody. Because right now, everybody
Speaker 5: sounds like they either from the Atlanta as far as
Speaker 5: it was Atlanta. Now Detroit got they thing going on,
Speaker 5: little triplets on the drums and all that. So you
Speaker 5: get everybody doing that shit, just like they was on
Speaker 5: the ship from England for a minute. We need to
Speaker 5: start going back to our ships, you know what I
Speaker 5: mean to where? Oh man, you know you could tell
Speaker 5: you from the West Coast, like you know you said
Speaker 5: when you hear eight voice distinctive, because this motherfucker exue
Speaker 5: West Coast. He don't give a fuck. You know, you
Speaker 5: exude where you from. You exude where you're from. And
Speaker 5: I think that's what make hip hop dope. But I'm
Speaker 5: not mad at the little homies for them doing what
Speaker 5: they do. And I just think that's because the problems
Speaker 5: with the West Coast is they suffer from the quota
Speaker 5: owned syndrome. If you notice everywhere the quoted down central,
Speaker 5: you know, you get jumped in the game. Every rapper
Speaker 5: on the West Coast outside of him come from that
Speaker 5: NWA family tree. When you think about it, everything is
Speaker 5: kind of like extended from there. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: should win in Pillick's you know, ruthless records and look
Speaker 5: at that generation you know that spawned, you know, the Eminem's,
Speaker 5: the games and all the mother people, fifty cent and
Speaker 5: all of them. But it was a time to where
Speaker 5: if you won from up under that Drad thing. It
Speaker 5: wasn't none shaken. He was one of the only dudes
Speaker 5: I think him and Ice. Him and Ice kind of
Speaker 5: broke out of that because they was with a djah
Speaker 5: king t But they were all in the same thing
Speaker 5: that was under DJ and Knowun's thing. So the DJ
Speaker 5: played a real pivotal park and hip hop, and a
Speaker 5: lot of times the DJ don't get their props no more.
Speaker 5: And I think that's it. You gotta remember Dory, when
Speaker 5: you all cast came in the game, it was a
Speaker 5: barrier to entry in hip hop. You know, motherfucker didn't
Speaker 5: have for fifty thous an hours to go to the studio,
Speaker 5: so we had to have somebody that was gonna plug
Speaker 5: you up, kind of hook you up. Motherfucker's getting beats
Speaker 5: off the internet now, dog, ain't nobody in there coaching
Speaker 5: them up. So they just going off what they think
Speaker 5: is hot. It ain't nothing. Ain't nobody really being developed.
Speaker 3: Rappers is different, and that's coming from everywhere. My error
Speaker 3: was telling stories. You know, there was a lot of
Speaker 3: things we saw as far as growing up in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Now, not to take away from the youngsters, you know,
Speaker 3: because it's a different sound. You feel me. I try
Speaker 3: to listen and but like I said, I was nineteen
Speaker 3: eighteen once all I cared about was the neighborhood and
Speaker 3: who we could pop and who we could roll on.
Speaker 3: So you got a lot of that in youngster music
Speaker 3: with one too. I say, stand on their identity as
Speaker 3: far as where they come from. But it's different because
Speaker 3: in my days, West Coast music was about storytelling. You know,
Speaker 3: we all told stories of the neighborhood. I tried to
Speaker 3: tell stories of growing up and the negativity I saw
Speaker 3: as far as both sides. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We was gang banging, we was neighborhood, but it was
Speaker 3: still a downfall to that shit.
Speaker 2: Right like beware story.
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff is glorified today in young music,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And social media is changing the landscape.
Speaker 3: So my take on it is, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: what they're is just the trendy shit. It's what they see,
Speaker 3: what they hear, this is what they think is popularized.
Speaker 3: It's what you think they're gonna get a fast buck
Speaker 3: off of, you know what I'm saying. So that's how
Speaker 3: I look at how West Coast music is with the
Speaker 3: youngsters coming up today want to solidify their identity, representing
Speaker 3: where they're from. But you know, it could take a
Speaker 3: turn for the worst because we got a lot of
Speaker 3: niggas dying right now behind our culture. You feel me,
Speaker 3: which is sad to say, but I can't be judgmental because,
Speaker 3: like I said, I was eighteen nineteen two. You couldn't
Speaker 3: tell me shit. When I first started rapping. It was
Speaker 3: all about the neighborhood and nothing else. And I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck, and I'm gonna talk about it, tell
Speaker 3: you about it, and if you got beef with it,
Speaker 3: then that's what's gonna happen. As you get older in music,
Speaker 3: you try to change. You see the downfalls, so you
Speaker 3: want to change the aspect. But it's still the same.
Speaker 3: A lot of youngsters get it from just coming up
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying. It got
Speaker 3: a lot of that still now. You from Long Beach, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm from the Long Beach.
Speaker 5: I came up to California Regent Cleveland, Ohio, went eighty
Speaker 5: eight eighty seven, going on eighty eight. I went after
Speaker 5: to play football and wound up getting into all kinds
Speaker 5: of other shits, you know, all kind.
Speaker 3: Of watch motherfucker football.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The whole point program and that's the hood took me
Speaker 3: under right there on me. They o came out here
Speaker 3: out the Cali and was like, got a glimpse of
Speaker 3: the hip hop and the females and the niggas on
Speaker 3: the corner and the blocks and that bread.
Speaker 5: There is so much motherfucking money back then. Man, I
Speaker 5: ain't have a dime in my pocket, and.
Speaker 3: And they go on the football that I can't have sat.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you the lord of the motherfucking cripping
Speaker 5: in the blood. And I never got into the games
Speaker 5: banging aspect because it was the money, you see what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I had a homeboy one day. I was like, man,
Speaker 5: he was like, he called me Ohio when I first
Speaker 5: came out there, Ohio, Ohio, Man, Ohio, you need some bread,
Speaker 5: dog man. You need to get you a sack. And
Speaker 5: I said, well, what's what's the sack? You know? Let
Speaker 5: me get with a sec. I went over saw the
Speaker 5: Misxican homie man got a five oh double was double up.
Speaker 2: Man. It was on from there.
Speaker 5: Motherucks isling changed the motherfucker's life for the negative. But
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, man, it was different back then
Speaker 5: the West Coast.
Speaker 2: It was real.
Speaker 5: Grimy, man, it was dangerous. Yeah, And once you get
Speaker 5: a pistol of the back and he had a couple
Speaker 5: of times though. That makes you kind of read direct,
Speaker 5: you feel what I'm saying, You kind of read direct.
Speaker 5: That ship was real. It ain't nothing to be glorified.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of foul ship that went on,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Because you being from Long Beach and you being from Compton,
Speaker 1: right and to see this gang culture like that ship
Speaker 1: is like almost as big as hip hop or they're
Speaker 1: like it's worldwide, like.
Speaker 3: Ship before hip hop. A lot of people, you know,
Speaker 3: talk about the influence and hip hop and all that,
Speaker 3: But I was gang banging before I even knew what
Speaker 3: the fucking hip hop was.
Speaker 1: You giving me like I came from Paris and I've
Speaker 1: seen crypton.
Speaker 3: It's everywhere for me, Like I said, growing up, it
Speaker 3: was you know, me, moms, my sister, my little brother, Uh,
Speaker 3: Pops wasn't in the home.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Neighborhood was rough, kind of flowing you fall into it,
Speaker 3: you know, And so it was before before hip hop
Speaker 3: I was gang banging. You give me I kind of
Speaker 3: half and half. You know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 3: fully game banging when I put out my first record,
Speaker 3: second record.
Speaker 2: You give me h we say game banging, when you say,
Speaker 2: you mean.
Speaker 3: I was still in the neighborhood. You know I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't know where else to go. You
Speaker 3: getting me.
Speaker 2: I'm still telling crack my first I never want you to.
Speaker 3: I never wanted to be I never wanted to be
Speaker 3: looked at as the rap nigga. You getting me. I
Speaker 3: still want the hood. So we leave the studio, We
Speaker 3: to the hood, We leave a show, We to the hood.
Speaker 3: You give me concerts. I go pull up tour bus
Speaker 3: in the hood and put every motherfucking nigga from the
Speaker 3: neighborhood and we're going into the concert. That was my belonging.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It wasn't. I didn't the
Speaker 3: rap shit and hanging in the clubs and all that shit.
Speaker 3: I never out. To this day, I still never got
Speaker 3: on that aspect. You get me, even though I'm still
Speaker 3: not venturing to the neighborhood every day. But I never
Speaker 3: wanted to be symbolized as the rap nigga. I'm just
Speaker 3: telling stories. This is what happened on my block yesterday,
Speaker 3: and so fuck it. I got an avenue to where
Speaker 3: I don't have to go on the block and sell
Speaker 3: some crack. I go to the studio and tell y'all
Speaker 3: what happened in the hood last night. And then that
Speaker 3: keeps me from because we was going to jail every
Speaker 3: every other day in the neighborhood, you know, before the rapping,
Speaker 3: just for standing out on the block, you go to
Speaker 3: the you get picked up. I was tired of that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You gotta do something else.
Speaker 3: And just face it, I wasn't good at selling crack.
Speaker 3: I take my and as soon as I make some money,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give me a rint the club car, pick
Speaker 3: up the homies. And I wasn't my entrepreneurship and the
Speaker 3: dope game wasn't so the rap shit, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Because like I said, I just want to
Speaker 3: be the hood nigga. I didn't want to. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to be the baller, the big time nigga. And
Speaker 3: when I started rapping, you know, He'll tell you right now, niggas,
Speaker 3: are you the legend, and I'll be like, stop calling
Speaker 3: me that ship. I'm just a regular ass nigga who
Speaker 3: was telling stories about niggas I was associated with. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was niggas in Yo Hood going through
Speaker 3: shit and Yo Hood and Yo Hood and then niggas
Speaker 3: in here. That's what I rapped for. I don't wont
Speaker 3: be the nigga you know all this shit. It wasn't me.
Speaker 6: So you never considered yourself like a like a hip
Speaker 6: hop head, no, because.
Speaker 2: You did love Karris One, so that's I love.
Speaker 3: But once you fall into the neighborhood ship nigga, that
Speaker 3: that's what I am. And then once I started rapping,
Speaker 3: I was always like the private, quiet nigga. So I
Speaker 3: didn't like doing all the hip hop shit, right, you
Speaker 3: getting me? I didn't. I didn't feel that shit. So
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be knowing today when niggas be
Speaker 3: like eight eight, I'm like, dude, I'm just like you, nigga.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 3: I just found another way to hustle it. You get me,
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm sure y'all going through it over there.
Speaker 3: So let me come up with some ship to where
Speaker 3: I can reach niggas on the aspect they struggling, They struggling,
Speaker 3: they struggling. We probably are doing the same shit. Whether
Speaker 3: whether you got on one fucking Converse or Timbow's or
Speaker 3: motherfucking motherfucking Sandals or whatever, we're going through the same shit.
Speaker 3: So let me talk about that and then don't feel
Speaker 3: alienated when I'm around. I'm like you, my nigga, you know,
Speaker 3: with the with the fandom and all that bullshit. Nah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna stand right here, We're gonna blow a blunt,
Speaker 3: we're gonna kick it, We're gonna chop it up about
Speaker 3: some regular ship and that's it. So that's always that's
Speaker 3: what I've always looked at myself as Let's talk.
Speaker 1: About the podcast for a second. Didn't you start out
Speaker 1: as four people?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: That's a whole, that's that what happened. I thought you
Speaker 2: were just bugging out. Yeah yeah, yeah, I thought she was.
Speaker 3: Pouring it all over the championship nigga.
Speaker 2: That's the podcast. That's the people that look does he
Speaker 2: hit it here?
Speaker 3: It was four yard man, it was I came in
Speaker 3: late okay the lated dish. Yeah yeah, tell you that
Speaker 3: you gotta break it down with it into that ship.
Speaker 2: Tell you what happened.
Speaker 5: And I ain't really trying to say these niggas names
Speaker 5: man and make motherfuckers famous, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But quiet on this with that. Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 5: It was originally three of us the first episode. It
Speaker 5: was me, myself and two other casts.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: I had the idea maybe a year and a half
Speaker 5: before we ever even put it out. I said, Man,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do a show, put together a podcast, and
Speaker 5: this when it wasn't fifty million motherfucking podcasts everywhere, wasn't nobody,
Speaker 5: And I said, this is what we're gonna do. So
Speaker 5: I put it together, right, the gangst the Chronicles, I
Speaker 5: tell you who it was. Originally was gonna be. It
Speaker 5: was gonna be myself rest in peace, big psych from
Speaker 5: out of thug life.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: And it was gonna be this man right here. I
Speaker 5: actually told him about it, right. But I start having ideas.
Speaker 5: I got in the podcast and I said, I want
Speaker 5: to do something different, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 5: want to talk about hip fip, like gangster rap, but
Speaker 5: with the criminal element, but with the real because it's
Speaker 5: a lot of grimy motherfuckers and get Bob right. So
Speaker 5: it was me and them two casts. At first, we
Speaker 5: knew one of them was going to jail. One of
Speaker 5: them just got a case, so he was gonna be
Speaker 5: going to jail in six months. I didn't want to
Speaker 5: be on the show, really, I was. I got a
Speaker 5: I had plans to open up a whole network. I
Speaker 5: had a home boy to work for CBS on the
Speaker 5: West Coast and have been talking about it.
Speaker 2: So I was just go get money.
Speaker 5: I was gonna get my sugar night that was just
Speaker 5: came in, you know, I was just go get my
Speaker 5: shug on with the podcast I saw. I said, this
Speaker 5: is the new motherfucker record kill. I tell'mfant to jump
Speaker 5: on this ship for all these other niggas find out.
Speaker 5: So we get to doing that. Man, everything is cool,
Speaker 5: and I say, I'm gonna bring this one cat in
Speaker 5: because he's kind of like got the sociologist thing going
Speaker 5: to where he studied gangs and ship like that.
Speaker 2: So I bring him in. Alfonso. Yeah, we started, don't
Speaker 2: even say no more.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was a part of the show though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he was just a guess.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I put I put all three of them cats together, right,
Speaker 5: and so I had it right now I don't know
Speaker 5: that I had a thing going right, And so I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you something that success breath for weak minded
Speaker 5: motherfuckers that they ain't used to ship. They start thinking
Speaker 5: they the reason for the season.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: So dude, one day one of the homieshold me, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna say his name, because he's a cool motherfucker, James McDonald, Right,
Speaker 5: James's loyal motherfucker. Dog. Now that them mother two motherfuckers
Speaker 5: that left. I didn't give a fuck. I wouldn't have
Speaker 5: pistol on them motherfuckers if they was on fire, not
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying that he was a
Speaker 2: good dude, loyal, last dude. Right.
Speaker 5: And but when the allegations, you know, it's speeding up.
Speaker 5: When all this stuff started coming out, Man, it was
Speaker 5: we still in Los Angeles, Dog, It's a certain code
Speaker 5: that you got to live by a few from the streets.
Speaker 5: And when those allegations came out, like just couldn't associate
Speaker 5: with the brand no more. It's like, you can't be
Speaker 5: a show. Even if you're talking about gangster rep you
Speaker 5: can't be a show talk about you the Gangster Chronicles
Speaker 5: and this motherfuckers don'na fly cooperated with somebody not saying
Speaker 5: that's what he did or did it, but those what
Speaker 5: the allegations were. So I had to distance myself and
Speaker 5: keep it pushing. But I was always thinking about bringing
Speaker 5: them in because the other dude was tripping like he
Speaker 5: thought he.
Speaker 2: Was just a the gang specialists. Yeah, the gang specialist
Speaker 2: gang anything you can.
Speaker 3: Do, the gang Specialists.
Speaker 5: So I was thinking about, you know, really replacing him.
Speaker 5: And then Charlotte Mane because it was motherfuckers starting to
Speaker 5: holler at us. It was a gang of people that
Speaker 5: hit us up talking about, man, we want to, you know,
Speaker 5: do something with y'all. I was like, man, this all
Speaker 5: this shit gonna be you know, we in motion, right.
Speaker 5: So Charlotte Mane had hit me one day shout out
Speaker 5: to the homeboy Glasses Malone because he assigned Glasses show.
Speaker 5: And he was like, man, I've been watching this one
Speaker 5: show about the ship the niggas ohee niggas from I
Speaker 5: said my way say old niggas when here so and
Speaker 5: he was like, yeah, he hit us up right, And
Speaker 5: so he was like, man, I think y'all need one
Speaker 5: more person because it was just me and James at
Speaker 5: first right, and he said what you think about m
Speaker 5: C eight And I was like, thank you God. I
Speaker 5: was hoping he didn't say nothing. The mother weird because
Speaker 5: you know how people can be with this shit. Man,
Speaker 5: you try to get some ship going to never get
Speaker 5: you can never get it off the ground. And so
Speaker 5: we've been rocking every since then. Man, but this podcast
Speaker 5: shit a headache. Dog, you got to five years the easiest.
Speaker 2: Who is your favorite guests?
Speaker 5: My favorite guest man, I got a couple of him.
Speaker 5: I got my Nigga too Short, was a good guess man.
Speaker 5: He was a good guest and crip motherfucking mac oh.
Speaker 2: I know him with old the tattoos on the space. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the homeboy Little Sody rest in peace, My homeboy,
Speaker 5: Little Sodi. Little Sodi's man history and the Los Angeles
Speaker 5: the streets just so extensive man and thick and he's
Speaker 5: just a real solid dude. He just he just lost
Speaker 5: his life not too long going to accident, going back
Speaker 5: out to Vegas. Yeah, he just got to react because
Speaker 5: you get them episodes to get reactions in the streets.
Speaker 5: Like when I talked to the homies, they don't give
Speaker 5: they just to you know, you know, you got the
Speaker 5: homie tell you man. He had that sucker ass nigga
Speaker 5: on it. That mother ain't this and that. But Sodi
Speaker 5: was one of the motherfuckers that everybody respected.
Speaker 2: How about you, who is who is your favorite?
Speaker 3: I think my favorite was.
Speaker 2: The dude who broke out of prison.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he was good toil. We got the catch
Speaker 5: that broke out of prison twice, man twice twice.
Speaker 2: Niggas made man.
Speaker 3: He had me sitting there like the whole show, nigga.
Speaker 3: I couldn't ask the motherfucker question.
Speaker 2: I was just.
Speaker 3: Amazed, like god damn, and how you do it? He
Speaker 3: was like ship, nigga, I got this and I got.
Speaker 2: The blieve twice.
Speaker 5: He broke out with a heavy set Caucasian woman. Motherfucker
Speaker 5: got met on the phone in their dog game. He
Speaker 5: need and this motherfucker crawled up through the Vincent and
Speaker 5: something out of the window. She drove him to the
Speaker 5: hotel and he got caught because he told that big
Speaker 5: fuck you as soon as he got out, and she
Speaker 5: that was my favorite guest right there, that niggas. He
Speaker 5: was a cold motherfucker, finitely so.
Speaker 2: And I want to bring Zeno and I want them
Speaker 2: as a guest. I was pusted. I wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you something that I asked all.
Speaker 1: Now or artists period, but particular the California artist. Is
Speaker 1: LA the most dangerous place for a rapper? I like
Speaker 1: how you're thinking about it. You just asked school Boy
Speaker 1: Q that I don't know if you saw it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. La is dangerous because of
Speaker 3: how the gang Elements set singing to play me growing
Speaker 3: up as a gang banger in hip hop. It was
Speaker 3: dangerous for myself. Wow, just because I was claiming a neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Niggas didn't like the neighborhood. So you have to carry
Speaker 3: that with your public figure. God damn right, So I
Speaker 3: had to. You got to move accordingly.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Man, it's today. Man, it's cool, but ship, I've had
Speaker 3: niggas tell me like nigga were supposed to get you,
Speaker 3: and niggas paid us to come at you, and nigga
Speaker 3: we saw you over here one day and won't they won't.
Speaker 3: It was It's a dangerous place. And just because of
Speaker 3: the like I said, when you are a rapper and
Speaker 3: you claim in a neighborhood, now you got that aspect because.
Speaker 1: Anybody, anybody got be for that neighborhood now has be
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: You God damn right, you could fuck about no rap music.
Speaker 3: That was my thing. Like I'm a rapper, but I'm
Speaker 3: still Niggas know me from back to the day. So
Speaker 3: it won't give a fuck because you're a rapper. Nigga,
Speaker 3: you at the motherfucking light and you in the neighborhood
Speaker 3: you ain't supposed to be in, you might get shot up.
Speaker 3: That is you have to man, And that ain't even
Speaker 3: got shit to do with the niggas who just out
Speaker 3: the jack niggas. You feel me. So now you're motherfucking
Speaker 3: hip hop artists and you come to La and niggas
Speaker 3: is greedy and they home, they gonna get on the
Speaker 3: aspect of shit. Now you just got the regular jack
Speaker 3: and niggas that ain't gotten nothing to do with the
Speaker 3: niggas who're gonna try to sweat you for game banging.
Speaker 3: And where you from and this is why you wearing
Speaker 3: that where you from or you from New York, Miami
Speaker 3: or whatever. Now it's like the aspect of shit, nigga
Speaker 3: that now we're just going to do some shit just
Speaker 3: because we want to show y'all. Nigga, it's treacherous out here,
Speaker 3: So it's dangerous as fuck. Now, motherfucking other places is
Speaker 3: just as greedy and grimy though rap life. God damn
Speaker 3: it if you from that, If you ain't the happy rapper, right,
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck. If you ain't even claiming
Speaker 3: the neighborhood, if you associated with anything, you got to
Speaker 3: you got to watch out.
Speaker 1: I remember at one point though you being a rapper,
Speaker 1: like gave you that that that safety net, like.
Speaker 2: The hood would be proud of you. Like when did
Speaker 2: that change? Man? Was it the same for him from
Speaker 2: where he comes from? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Said that the internet made shit dangerous thog, Yeah, because
Speaker 5: you can see motherfuckers on where people at in real time.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not. It's sad, but I don't love
Speaker 2: my family.
Speaker 5: Post ptictions like don't be doing that shit, but do
Speaker 5: we get home be doing that shit.
Speaker 3: It's a motherfucking you know, acceptance like the homies like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, nigga will do, but that ain't got shit
Speaker 3: to do with the niggas on outside. We don't give
Speaker 3: a fuck because you rapping up, we beefing with your neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You from over there. I don't give a fuck if
Speaker 3: you rapping and got Grammys in a podcast and all
Speaker 3: that shit. Niggas you from over there. So if a
Speaker 3: niggas a fitting, especially if it's one of them niggas,
Speaker 3: if it's one of the motherfuckers, like I, don't give
Speaker 3: a fuck you he finished serve you, it don't matter.
Speaker 3: So that's just like I said, and that that right now.
Speaker 3: It gives us that attitude that we have in La
Speaker 3: to where some niggas don't fuck with some niggas, and
Speaker 3: some rappers don't fuck with some rappers because first it
Speaker 3: comes is there. First, their neighborhood is everything, and they
Speaker 3: rather please them than getting on the song with with
Speaker 3: with with sow And so you get me.
Speaker 5: And you got a lot of catch from out of
Speaker 5: town that's going out there starting to claim neighborhoods now
Speaker 5: right the most this is crazy.
Speaker 2: They you know, no, they that's the fuck that part
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 5: They really from these places, and a lot of times
Speaker 5: what happens is they come out they really hanging out
Speaker 5: with motherfuckers like you a million dollar man, What is
Speaker 5: you riding around with this program? Fucker that ain't gotten
Speaker 5: none to lose? Why you want to go hang out
Speaker 5: with him. I don't understand it now, motherfuckers is really
Speaker 5: and they hold.
Speaker 2: You to that.
Speaker 5: When you start talking the box, you gonna do this,
Speaker 5: they break and bring up like a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Like I said when I was growing up in the hood,
Speaker 3: is treacherous.
Speaker 1: And and why why in particular La and that I
Speaker 1: believe school boy Q said because people come and check in.
Speaker 1: And he said he was like, most of the time
Speaker 1: when people check in, you checking in with somebody who
Speaker 1: got be for this other neighborhood. And do you think
Speaker 1: that's the problem.
Speaker 2: A lot of problems.
Speaker 3: I me being a old school cat, I don't you know.
Speaker 3: I never really got to checking anything. They just came to town.
Speaker 3: They came to town like I'm good friends with since
Speaker 3: way back Face Primo. Niggas come to town. They hit
Speaker 3: me up eight, what's up? Ship? Back in the days,
Speaker 3: I took Scarface and Bushwick through the hood with the
Speaker 3: with the with the heat and the trunk and everything.
Speaker 3: I mean, niggas gonna get me. They gonna get them,
Speaker 3: so I gotta protect them. Checking in is the thing niggas.
Speaker 3: You know they claim they do now, you know, because
Speaker 3: you know somebody I guess you're supposed to know somebody
Speaker 3: affiliated with the neighborhood, and you know, you want to
Speaker 3: let niggas know your presence then, but sometimes that might
Speaker 3: not be a good thing. You know, niggas want to
Speaker 3: post where they're at now location and do it. That's
Speaker 3: that new ship.
Speaker 5: I know you're there exactly, some motherfucker that's like movie ship.
Speaker 5: Like it's somebody at just waiting. I see them, and
Speaker 5: I ain't checking in with no motherfucker body. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go handle my business and get the fuck on school.
Speaker 2: You said, Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you come into town on some fucking pop.
Speaker 3: Industry ship, then stay industry.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Uh, you to go stay somewhere. Go venturing into the neighborhoods,
Speaker 3: you know. Uh, that's that's dangerous. You're taking that upon yourself.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying when you go in to
Speaker 3: them treacherous neighborhoods. Uh, when you visiting somebody town, like
Speaker 3: they said, if your ass is down some celebrity you know,
Speaker 3: Hollywood ship, Yeah, stay in Hollywood.
Speaker 5: It's just about being respectful to man, because you can
Speaker 5: go anywhere. Man. I think man. The Ghetto boys had
Speaker 5: a song called the World is a ghetto. That's the
Speaker 5: really shit. Ever you come down here being disrespectful. You
Speaker 5: you're talking about you know what I'm saying. You can
Speaker 5: be in one of these little towns on our skirts somewhere.
Speaker 5: You go up there talking slick. You know it's gonna
Speaker 5: be on. Man. You gotta remember, man, one thing that
Speaker 5: happened in the eighties. Man, and you had the migration
Speaker 5: of the dope game. You had a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: cash that was coming, you know, to the Midwest.
Speaker 2: So I said vacation like the real song.
Speaker 5: So what happened was, it's not like Motherfucker's was going
Speaker 5: to Saint Louis and just tying Saint Louis. Niggas up
Speaker 5: we go knowledge a block. No, they came down with
Speaker 5: them good price and came in love and peace. And
Speaker 5: that's how the work got done. Because you can't walk
Speaker 5: up in nobody's section talking about we run some shit. Man,
Speaker 5: you wrong, get sent home. I don't care where you're from.
Speaker 2: Real talk.
Speaker 1: Let's see yeah, come on, come on, see them, come on,
Speaker 1: come on. Right before we do, let's talk about Johnson
Speaker 1: Street and Compton.
Speaker 3: Johnson Street, that's where you're from right. I am from
Speaker 3: a neighborhood called Track New Park. I grew up in
Speaker 3: a neighborhood called spoop Town. What was on Johnson Street.
Speaker 2: It is all Compton, right, Yes.
Speaker 3: Uh, where I grew up is on the east side
Speaker 3: of Compton. You know, you would think, you know, regular
Speaker 3: neighborhood whatever, But it was vicious. We had the Mexican
Speaker 3: gangs over there. We had the Black gangs over there.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it was a thing that was CV
Speaker 3: seventies and it was a spoop towns. We lived at
Speaker 3: the end of the block, me moms, my sister, little brother.
Speaker 3: Around thirteen, I started gang banging.
Speaker 2: What year was that. I had to be early eighties, eighties.
Speaker 3: I was just you know, gang life was was what
Speaker 3: it was, man, you know, it was belonging. I didn't
Speaker 3: have an older brother, you know, cousins and all that
Speaker 3: was still back in Mississippi, you know, so it was
Speaker 3: just a way for I guess, for me to you know,
Speaker 3: had that love.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 3: My household.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: My sister was older, she was doing her thing. My
Speaker 3: little brother was too young. So I connected with the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You get me and this one. It was all pre
Speaker 3: hip hop though, Like this was before hip hop. I
Speaker 3: really we didn't even have no fucking hip hop, so
Speaker 3: then there was a big difference. So there was a
Speaker 3: big difference when hip hop came. Yeah, we had a
Speaker 3: lot of techno ship, a lot a lot of our
Speaker 3: music was about time, you know, we started listening to
Speaker 3: Sucker and Seeds and ship like that. Linzo and them
Speaker 3: came along, Wrecking Crew and then uh we had l
Speaker 3: A Dream Team.
Speaker 2: Do you think yeah, I think changed the gang culture.
Speaker 8: Like did you see the difference pre hip hop and
Speaker 8: then when hip hop came and even before the gangster lyrics?
Speaker 8: When hip hop came to l A, Right, how did
Speaker 8: it affect the gang culture? Did turn it up? Was
Speaker 8: it more because if the bloods are rapping and like the.
Speaker 2: Crips like social media.
Speaker 3: Exactly because you gotta figure like it was already heated
Speaker 3: in content. It was just because of the mother I
Speaker 3: mean just the gang culture in l A period, niggas
Speaker 3: was already hated nigga. We was we were blast on
Speaker 3: you off a flashlight nigga from parliament with no fucking
Speaker 3: hip hop.
Speaker 2: You did me.
Speaker 3: We cruising the fucking atomic dog and in parliament.
Speaker 2: But now hip hop's coming.
Speaker 3: People are like, but see our hip hop first came,
Speaker 3: it was that ship. It was l a dream. It
Speaker 3: wasn't no hard nigga. We didn't get hard until Easy came.
Speaker 2: And even then they weren't really claiming Colors.
Speaker 3: And then no, we had to bang in on wax record.
Speaker 2: You just come out.
Speaker 3: I just came in like the like late eighties?
Speaker 2: Did that? Did that? Did that song have just as
Speaker 2: much impact as it did?
Speaker 3: The record?
Speaker 8: That song a huge It had a huge Boston, Boston
Speaker 8: went crazy.
Speaker 3: Colors had a huge impact on us because it got
Speaker 3: to show the world l a gang banking it. It
Speaker 3: made it made us famous. Nigga, You give me niggas
Speaker 3: all around the world. See this blu and this red fel.
Speaker 3: That's when motherfuckers really start. You had real hardcore gangsters
Speaker 3: then like motherfuckers that was with it. That's when you
Speaker 3: start getting a gang member because it became real trendy,
Speaker 3: kind of like if you was a cripple.
Speaker 5: All the bras like cripple. You know That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They wanted them a motherfucking cripple.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The nigga that was a crip word, blood because you know,
Speaker 5: there was a lot of money in the street back then.
Speaker 1: A lot of you that I noticed, K characters that
Speaker 1: I got. Great, it's gonna sound, I know, biggae, look
Speaker 1: mad fun.
Speaker 2: Though I tell you something.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Saying was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like like Cube saying it's a good day today.
Speaker 3: So nigga, you have thirty forty niggas at a picnic. Well,
Speaker 3: we just in the hood, you know, in five or
Speaker 3: six others on us on the same block. We're trying
Speaker 3: to hustle money. We're going to the store, trying to
Speaker 3: piece up on the drink and the weed and a
Speaker 3: good day niggas. Niggas getting a box of chicken and
Speaker 3: we in the back and then you know the females
Speaker 3: is around. That's when you ain't really you're always beefing
Speaker 3: with somebody. But you get days where nigga, we might
Speaker 3: we might go thirty deep to the bowling allogy at night. Nigga,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And niggas ain't bowling.
Speaker 2: That's when you win nobody in.
Speaker 3: The lot with the lolos. But that's what for some
Speaker 3: reason niggas went through the bowling. I mean that's what
Speaker 3: we did. It was when you had good days, it
Speaker 3: was good days. But then when you was on high alert,
Speaker 3: it was nervous. It was it was it was critical.
Speaker 3: You get me, police coming through every day, somebody going
Speaker 3: to jail, you know, somebody fighting, you know whatever. But
Speaker 3: to me, it was everything. Like you said, shit was everything, man.
Speaker 3: And you know, homies got killed, you know, homies got
Speaker 3: sent to prison for a long times. But like I
Speaker 3: tell people every day, I wouldn't trade that shit for
Speaker 3: nothing because it allowed me to see and and be
Speaker 3: a part of what I was able to bring into
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 2: You give me.
Speaker 3: A lot of people was confused about what we was doing.
Speaker 3: The colors and rags and ship and there was more
Speaker 3: than that. You get me, And.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's it for as deep as motherfuckers
Speaker 5: on the outside make it. From what I see is not. Again,
Speaker 5: I'm not no game banging, but you.
Speaker 9: Know I'm a nigga just like you.
Speaker 2: Monster.
Speaker 5: Still, I'm gonna tell you, like the Homie Glasses, Malone,
Speaker 5: the Homie mugs, break it down, the best game banging
Speaker 5: at this core is all about community. It's all about
Speaker 5: what community years. It's like, you know, to be technical.
Speaker 5: Y'all banged the frek. That's your neighborhood. That's your neighborhood.
Speaker 5: When you go back home, do it don't matter where
Speaker 5: you at because you poppy, right, you know when you
Speaker 5: go back there, you poppy. You always gonna be popping
Speaker 5: good no matter where you go in this world. So
Speaker 5: it's all about really community. Man, it ain't about like
Speaker 5: motherfuckers ain't running around all. They just killing each other.
Speaker 5: But they can't get that way. That's the thing about it.
Speaker 5: It could be real good at one time, and that's
Speaker 5: what made me say fuck that I had because the
Speaker 5: one thing about it ain't hard to get in the gang.
Speaker 5: I'm a six foot four, two ninety five pound dude. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they would just let you. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: been forced to do something like it's hard to join
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 3: They don't be like y'all got to court the home head.
Speaker 2: Every saying the Homi Farm. You seeing me? Man, if
Speaker 2: I went and went to jail, you'd have been from
Speaker 2: the set. Home. You been from the set, because it's
Speaker 2: just that easy. So it's all.
Speaker 5: But those were all my friends. So I saw the
Speaker 5: dynamic early and I was at Loan Beach, and at
Speaker 5: that time at Long Beach it was only three neighborhoods.
Speaker 5: It was you know, Long Beach, Insane twenties and what's
Speaker 5: the name of the Mexican gang over there? God forgot
Speaker 5: the Mexican gang over there. Then you got the little
Speaker 5: rascals like the Filipino game ain't right, and the Long
Speaker 5: Beast Long Goos, that's the Mexican gag.
Speaker 2: Over and they put in work too, don't play either. Oh,
Speaker 2: they don't play either, to.
Speaker 5: Shoot your ass. And so you think about I'm on
Speaker 5: a football team, so it's dudes from insane twenties and
Speaker 5: these all homies, the homies insanem to give me my work,
Speaker 5: the homies from twenties. You don't let me hold a
Speaker 5: couple of guns over at the crib. So I'm cool
Speaker 5: with everybody. Never wanted to get into that. They was
Speaker 5: asked and I was like, no, I'm cool. Just let
Speaker 5: me be just who I am. Man, let me stay Ohio,
Speaker 5: my nigga. And I just kept that whole thing because
Speaker 5: that's what people getting problems that you can't play with
Speaker 5: gang banging because these dudes ain't playing. Because again it's
Speaker 5: state community. This man is don't been all around the world,
Speaker 5: but he's still tracking you. He had another shirt to
Speaker 5: the point he had another shirt on for fuck that
Speaker 5: is still comping. I gotta wear this to let motherfuckers
Speaker 5: know that's important to them. You can't play with that.
Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying, That's how people get hurt.
Speaker 10: I heard you say too as you said that, Pac.
Speaker 2: I know we spoke about Park earlier.
Speaker 1: He said Park gang banging or getting into the gangs
Speaker 1: was actually moving moving backwards for him, for him.
Speaker 3: Because I just think that it seems like being in
Speaker 3: the steels position you you weren't born and raised in
Speaker 3: the neighborhood. You started claiming. So I think that at
Speaker 3: his status or where he was, you get me, it
Speaker 3: was it was probably backwards to want to claim the gang.
Speaker 3: You get me to each his own when you are
Speaker 3: around that you want to be long what he wanted
Speaker 3: to belong, You get me.
Speaker 1: I could see. I could see. I could see what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But I can also see him too, like
Speaker 1: like you know, just wanting to be a part of something,
Speaker 1: like you know.
Speaker 2: A young man. We said all the time, we forget how.
Speaker 3: Young and being and like I said, you coming from
Speaker 3: a situation where he was just in prison, locked down,
Speaker 3: and then the nigga who comes gets you is heavily
Speaker 3: influenced and affiliated.
Speaker 1: And he's not really from there. He wasn't blood his
Speaker 1: whole life. He became blood afterwards. He was a football player.
Speaker 2: Like you, right right.
Speaker 3: So I get the you know, damn you know, these
Speaker 3: niggas clicked up and they mother fucking representing and they
Speaker 3: all mobbing at one motherfucking beat, and everybody here is is,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm I'm itching to be a part of that.
Speaker 3: So I get getting caught up in that. But there's
Speaker 3: ways that you still could have been accepted. Example, he
Speaker 3: comes from Cleveland, He around the hood, niggas, he doing
Speaker 3: hood ship with him, getting money with him, They watching
Speaker 3: his back. Fuck it. If niggas get into it, he
Speaker 3: gonna fuck it. That's the home.
Speaker 2: Let's say I open the thing with Park.
Speaker 8: Though Park was with the ship store like even and
Speaker 8: I never but I'm saying so even if it was
Speaker 8: like maybe like whatever it was before that, but once
Speaker 8: he started getting with induced, Park was the frontline nigga.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Part wasn't one to just be talking and then go
Speaker 8: and then let the niggas the body got Parks gonna
Speaker 8: be up in the front.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna yeah, like like I've been here all my
Speaker 3: life since day one. Yeah, And I'm gonna be an
Speaker 3: active nigga, active with it. You know. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: just be like, oh yeah, the the homies, whatever, ship nigga.
Speaker 3: If it's started going down, I'm probably gonna be the
Speaker 3: first one to take a swing.
Speaker 8: But that's the thing with pop pop, Like everything that
Speaker 8: he was talking about, he would make sure that he
Speaker 8: that he that he was about that.
Speaker 3: And you went on tour with Park and everything, right.
Speaker 3: I did a couple of shows with Papa. Yeah. We
Speaker 3: did the show in Milwaukee where we got out of hand.
Speaker 2: Oh Man ship.
Speaker 3: I think this was right after the the young kid
Speaker 3: got killed in Chicago. We had a show in Milwaukee
Speaker 3: and he got on stage and he stopped. The music stopped,
Speaker 3: and some commotions was going on with dudes in the audience,
Speaker 3: and pistol came out, got shot up in the air,
Speaker 3: and niggas got to jumping on stage, and the whole
Speaker 3: it seemed like the whole downtown area of Milwaukee at
Speaker 3: the time was just motherfuckers was running through hotels, tearing
Speaker 3: ship up like it was a mess. It was a
Speaker 3: real riot happened, and I don't think Milwaukee had a
Speaker 3: rap show for a long.
Speaker 1: Time after that. So let me ask you, is there
Speaker 1: a difference? What is and what is the difference?
Speaker 10: Did you the underground Tupac to death Row Tupaca.
Speaker 2: And in between?
Speaker 1: Because he had a whole in between him the whole time,
Speaker 1: all versions, Man.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I could say, like, you know, just
Speaker 3: being you know, just trying to figure like you said,
Speaker 3: being young, trying to figure your way out, but coming
Speaker 3: through obstacles and ship and coming through you know, like
Speaker 3: you said, going from digital underground Tupac to death Row Tupac.
Speaker 3: He'd been through a lot of shit, Yeah you get me,
Speaker 3: and a lot of incidents, the Oakland incident, the shipping
Speaker 3: that the police and shit can change you, man. And
Speaker 3: then I think, really that last fucking hit with him
Speaker 3: going to prison, it started making your mentality go like, man,
Speaker 3: fuck this shit, you get me. Damn By him being
Speaker 3: able to get out, it's not like the look at
Speaker 3: the environment he got out to go into. Now you're
Speaker 3: around a gang of vicious Compton, niggas ready to you know,
Speaker 3: get whatever is whatever. So I think that transition of
Speaker 3: life and not being able to find a settle or
Speaker 3: a calm motherfucking outcome because we all had to get
Speaker 3: there at one point. You got to take yourself from Damn.
Speaker 3: It's this path. Like like me, I was like, man, this,
Speaker 3: I don't know if if a serving is gonna work,
Speaker 3: We're going to jail every other mother.
Speaker 8: If you got to take the situation with Puck with
Speaker 8: you saying was looking all that at all that his mother,
Speaker 8: all that, you know what I'm saying, Like all the panthers,
Speaker 8: he was looking at all that shit going on.
Speaker 3: So that right there shaped them. Sometimes you sometimes you
Speaker 3: can find a way quicker than some niggas. I tell
Speaker 3: my son this ship all the time. Sometime the road
Speaker 3: is longer, man, to get what you want to get.
Speaker 3: You see nigg and niggas pop up today and next
Speaker 3: thing you know, they up here, and you be like God, damn,
Speaker 3: he was always working and doing all this motherfucking ship.
Speaker 3: And I'm still I said, sometimes you gotta settle yourself
Speaker 3: because it's gonna take you a longer. He was gonna
Speaker 3: get there still you're gonna get there eventually, but sometimes
Speaker 3: you gotta take the long roll. Man.
Speaker 5: God damn well, well yeah, my god brother producers part.
Speaker 5: He was the first one from l A DJ Bob
Speaker 5: Cat strictly for my niggas on the album right there,
Speaker 5: and that's when he was coming the wrong a lot.
Speaker 5: That's when he had him in there with Thread and
Speaker 5: Cube and then they did the joint then. And he
Speaker 5: was a young dude though. Man, that's what I was
Speaker 5: gonna say. He always had the hood around him because Bob.
Speaker 5: You think about Bob, that's Roland forties right there, right,
Speaker 5: that's rolling forty crib. And Bob was producing a lot
Speaker 5: of stuff for him because at that same time, Bob
Speaker 5: was producing for Rootless, Yeah DJ Bob.
Speaker 3: With the with the yeah.
Speaker 1: Bone had my first A lesson. I was number one.
Speaker 1: I was feeling myself. I went to l A. I
Speaker 1: was in the back stage.
Speaker 2: It was twenty of us year was that this is
Speaker 2: ninety ninety eight literally in my life. I got said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got im. I was broadcasting that's that one, snoop.
Speaker 2: Let me get better the same crew. Yeah, battle Cat So.
Speaker 1: So they're like, yo, battle Cat is out there. He
Speaker 1: wants to take a picture or he wanted to order
Speaker 1: something something. He was like and my people was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know he is chilling. And I just heard him
Speaker 1: in the background.
Speaker 2: I'll have a fucking crops up there, and I was like,
Speaker 2: tell the nick, let's go, and I went out.
Speaker 1: Whenever he had who he wanted, I did, and I
Speaker 1: just I remember, I was like, yo, that's my first lesson, Like,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how deep you are when you and somebody
Speaker 1: else's hood, respect their route.
Speaker 2: And I did and I did so the battle.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you, right, whenever I like, sometimes
Speaker 1: I walk on the beach right down here, right and
Speaker 1: I could just see people walking by. As soon as
Speaker 1: a person walking by, I'm like that dude right there
Speaker 1: is from New York.
Speaker 2: Like I could just know, like I don't have to
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: Is it like that with LA people, Because let me
Speaker 1: just acc you. Sometimes I do get approached what I'm
Speaker 1: in l A and somebody would say where you from?
Speaker 2: What neighborhood you from?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: And I'll be like New York. They're like, all right, yeah, leave.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't give a fuck. As long as
Speaker 1: soon as I opened my mouth, They're like he's not
Speaker 1: the ods, he'll leave. So can you see somebody and
Speaker 1: be like, look at somebody and be like he from
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, Oh definitely, But they open in their mouth,
Speaker 1: Oh definitely.
Speaker 2: Just they man.
Speaker 3: Certain hood niggas got mannerism. There's a lot of goofy
Speaker 3: shit going on today, but a real hood nigga is they.
Speaker 3: We just moved different, man, we moved different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: We we're not outspoken. We don't be all chatty chatty
Speaker 3: with motherfuckers. We just sit back and observe, man, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna know a real hood and then the real
Speaker 3: hood nigga don't acknowledge you back with just a simple
Speaker 3: that's it. We ain't gonna say, oh where you from
Speaker 3: or woof you won't we We tend to not, you know,
Speaker 3: the ship. If you're a real nigga, you're from somewhere,
Speaker 3: so we're trying to we bypass that. But there definitely
Speaker 3: you can spot a goofy nigga or want to be
Speaker 3: from a real nigga.
Speaker 1: Right now, let me ask you, have you ever been
Speaker 1: cool prior to you know, you being older when when
Speaker 1: you was younger. We're just round the part you have
Speaker 1: you ever been cool with a blood when it wasn't
Speaker 1: cool to be cool to blood?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I knew plenty of bloods back in my Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's the misconception that that's what.
Speaker 3: Please Some dudes might be family members. You got a
Speaker 3: lot of family members that claim different neighborhood. You might
Speaker 3: have a cousin who's a blood.
Speaker 5: I know that.
Speaker 3: My thing back, you know with that is it's just
Speaker 3: a respect you give me. I know you a blood,
Speaker 3: I'm a crypt. But you know it wasn't like but
Speaker 3: with some instances it's like on site you a blood,
Speaker 3: I'm a crypt. Back then it was.
Speaker 2: So what determines the instances?
Speaker 3: I guess it gotta be if I was cool with
Speaker 3: a nigga now I used to dirt bike ride with blood,
Speaker 3: because you get.
Speaker 2: Me ball dirt bike rider, something that has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with the streets.
Speaker 3: If you have some type, if I already had that
Speaker 3: connection with you, then got you. Like I said, a
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of us probably went to school
Speaker 3: together and then once high school came and we moved
Speaker 3: at different days.
Speaker 8: So if you're shipping with him and your corp niggas
Speaker 8: seeing you would you would be like, yo, he's cool.
Speaker 8: How would you explain what I'm saying? You know you
Speaker 8: you can't.
Speaker 3: I can't do thathing When I got fifteen crip niggas
Speaker 3: on my mama front porch and my sister got blood
Speaker 3: by by baby by blood, nigga, he coming over, he nigga,
Speaker 3: red strings, red hat ons, crazy and when he walk up,
Speaker 3: the niggas that don't know him is like, the fuck
Speaker 3: is baby wearing red and blue? The fuck is this nigga?
Speaker 3: And oh that's pat Leave my nigga alone. He all good.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, and you can control that. You could be like.
Speaker 3: No, you you, Oh, you're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 3: my fucking sister. She ain't finna have that. She don't
Speaker 3: get a fucking few niggas is crips, bloods essays or whatever.
Speaker 3: Leave my fucking nigga alone, and that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: So you got to a cool He don't come over
Speaker 3: like okay, we know your blood. Okay, he ain't coming
Speaker 3: over like like blood and nothing like what up? Eight blood?
Speaker 2: It's all about respect coming on respectful.
Speaker 3: And this nigga were drinking forties and passing the weed
Speaker 3: and once the niggas. That's with me. See that, Oh
Speaker 3: they like to can hear Nigga won't all.
Speaker 2: That it's allowed, he could.
Speaker 3: Set all that's.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It's it's differences, Like you don't know a nigga is
Speaker 3: man Like the code is we beefing with this hood, right,
Speaker 3: we beefing with this blood hood or that's that's feel
Speaker 3: and McCoy way back in the days, that's what we did.
Speaker 3: We beefing with them. But that's how I know this
Speaker 3: nigga Like, I'm not feinna be like stick him up
Speaker 3: or killing niggas. Nigga, he was cool with me. He
Speaker 3: ain't beefing with them.
Speaker 2: He cool.
Speaker 3: He a blood But you know it's now we might
Speaker 3: be our ride one day and decide to jump out
Speaker 3: on some niggas.
Speaker 2: It's just that happens in real wars. That's what it is.
Speaker 3: I can't clarify, but like my o G niggas they
Speaker 3: were cool with some blood. Nigga's like, you get to
Speaker 3: a point to where I might have to cop from
Speaker 3: the blood Nigga who's saying that you got the heavy setting?
Speaker 3: You get me And if I'm serving nigga, I'm not
Speaker 3: discriminating you coming over here to get this motherfucking work.
Speaker 3: Then here you go like I'm trying to get money now.
Speaker 1: For you you right, Let me let me switch with
Speaker 1: the question a little bit. You not being an offtiate
Speaker 1: gang banger, but rolling with gang members, does that automatically
Speaker 1: make you get by association?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 5: It could depending on the situation, depending on what we
Speaker 5: got going together. Now if me and this man, now
Speaker 5: this is all prior to me becoming the podcast muggulon,
Speaker 5: you know, so this is a long time ago listening,
Speaker 5: you know, probably doing my thing. If we don't put
Speaker 5: something together where we got eighty pounds going out of
Speaker 5: time through the mail and me and you got some
Speaker 5: business together. I don't give a fuck about that crip
Speaker 5: or that blood shit. You're going money play right now.
Speaker 5: We want to make sure, you know, we want to
Speaker 5: mitigate our losses and make sure we get to our
Speaker 5: money right. And it's all about respect. Like I tell you,
Speaker 5: I'm real cool with Big U. Shouts at the Homie draws.
Speaker 5: I've met him through the blood Homie, Tony Lane. You
Speaker 5: met big a blood home through blood Homie Tony to
Speaker 5: that managed sugar Free was manager Djech quick. You know
Speaker 5: he man down right now. Shout at the homie and
Speaker 5: prayers up for him. But I met him through him
Speaker 5: through some U football stuffers. I used to have a
Speaker 5: popping U football chaff. You know, were real big in
Speaker 5: the sports. You know, one thing over out on the
Speaker 5: West coast. We take care of our as we coach football,
Speaker 5: do all kinds of little fly ship for the you know,
Speaker 5: little youth leagues and stuff like that. I had a
Speaker 5: youth league in Paramont. Big you had to crench y'all.
Speaker 5: He had to with the Crenshall coach crenchyall rams And
Speaker 5: he called me one day with told me on the
Speaker 5: phone talking ship like yea, we will fuck you all
Speaker 5: up do this that. Of course I went over there
Speaker 5: to make the little kid is football ship. That ship big,
Speaker 5: you know, just like it is. You know, that's what that.
Speaker 5: California got a lot of similarities with Miami. When to
Speaker 5: South Florida when it yeah, yeah, election election.
Speaker 2: Election reacts, y'all.
Speaker 1: Both this question, do you think Nipsey would still be
Speaker 1: alive if he didn't put that store in the hood?
Speaker 5: Answer that first, good question, Go ahead, motherfucker's gonna be
Speaker 5: mad at me. But I keep real. Hell, motherfucking yeah,
Speaker 5: I think you know. I think it's one of those things, man,
Speaker 5: to where you dealing with a lot of different dynamics
Speaker 5: when it comes to the hood. Nor are you from
Speaker 5: the hood. We all come from similar circumstances around this table, right.
Speaker 5: You just can't change certain motherfucker's mindset.
Speaker 2: Dog, you know.
Speaker 5: But then again, I believe in God, homie, So when
Speaker 5: it's God's time, it might not have mattered what he
Speaker 5: was over there in the hood or down here on
Speaker 5: South Beach walking around somewhere of sex. You know, if
Speaker 5: it was his time, it was his time, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I believe in God too, though, bro.
Speaker 5: But I always wonder that the me and the homies
Speaker 5: would debate that sometimes because I'm the type of dude
Speaker 5: I don't believe. I think it's just too different. I
Speaker 5: can just come from a place where you can't help everybody. Dog,
Speaker 5: they gonna still find a way to fuck up.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: You get a homeye, twenty thousand and thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 5: to put it in on his barbershop, and he fulling
Speaker 5: around trying to move a package out of town or
Speaker 5: some shit. Some motherfuckers just ain't gonna do right, dog,
Speaker 5: So you just gotta be co conscious of that shit,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Some mother fuckers's not gonna go do what they're supposed
Speaker 2: to do, how about you?
Speaker 3: Nip Nip was a true uh representative of his neighborhood.
Speaker 3: He wanted to keep all of that in his neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Of course, he could have went to Beverly Hills or
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And all that to.
Speaker 3: Open the store, but I think, uh, he wanted to
Speaker 3: show niggas that I'm gonna keep the bread here like
Speaker 3: niggas talk about it, you know, give back to the
Speaker 3: block and you know, buy your own and ship. He
Speaker 3: wanted to really, you know, he really wanted to show that.
Speaker 3: And that gained you a lot of motherfucking respect just
Speaker 3: in the streets alone. You feel me being able to
Speaker 3: give that. Nigga, you and you're on your block. Nigga
Speaker 3: got a major store, and you major this and that
Speaker 3: now and you still right here.
Speaker 2: Also get niggas knocked down every day.
Speaker 3: Not actually I mean that really that came from from
Speaker 3: some other shit. You get me, because if you're able
Speaker 3: to be cool with motherfuckers and you able to maintain
Speaker 3: a certain then you don't have beef with niggas. You
Speaker 3: get me. That's and that's the problem with shit. You
Speaker 3: can't prevent another niggas jealousy. Man, you give me you can't.
Speaker 3: Like I tell niggas every day. I'm cool with every
Speaker 3: motherfucking body, But it's somebody out there that don't like
Speaker 3: a nigga, and not because I don't shot up a
Speaker 3: nigga lock or did some shit or whatever. Who knows,
Speaker 3: Maybe because we come from the same motherfucking place and
Speaker 3: you ain't as well off or you ain't inna do it.
Speaker 3: But nigga shit, it's still a struggle every day. It's
Speaker 3: why I tell a motherfucker. But you can't prevent niggas jealousy.
Speaker 3: So and if you want to remain grounded to where
Speaker 3: you come from, which he nigga, everybody know he represented
Speaker 3: the sixties to the fullers. And even though I'm on
Speaker 3: a different motherfucking plateau right now, I'm gonna still show
Speaker 3: niggas that if it wasn't from where I came from,
Speaker 3: then none of this would be possible. So if I
Speaker 3: can buy a building in the hood and then keep
Speaker 3: it on some positive shit, but niggas ain't gonna be
Speaker 3: breaking into it or striking it up, and everybody gonna
Speaker 3: protect it and look at it as the neighborhood store.
Speaker 3: I don't be right there, But like I said, you
Speaker 3: can't prevent niggas who were in the cut who because
Speaker 3: like you said, you can get caught. You can get
Speaker 3: caught anywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get caught anywhere, man, And I remember
Speaker 5: that shit happened. That shit was sad shit though, like
Speaker 5: they called the homie's phone. He was over my house
Speaker 5: and that shit was in real time on FaceTime, And
Speaker 5: I was wondering what nigga FaceTime on us? Man, you
Speaker 5: got you got a pistol? Nigga, shoot the nigga, do something,
Speaker 5: call the police, like why you find the fuck you're
Speaker 5: calling us? You feel what I'm saying, It's like, shit
Speaker 5: is crazy, Dog, I don't seen more motherfuckers.
Speaker 11: Get you in real time. It was happening is on FaceTime, Dog,
Speaker 11: I swear the guy you guy asked on the glasses alone. Man,
Speaker 11: he was sitting right there, my mother fucking doner, like,
Speaker 11: why are you calling me? Like like it got a pistol?
Speaker 11: Like I've never seen so many niggas with pistols, but
Speaker 11: don't shoot no motherfucking buddy.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna going to LA for years, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with Dazz and Corrupt, and I would go
Speaker 1: to their shows and Snoop sometimes and Nipsey though, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this. When I went to his show, it
Speaker 1: was the first time I actually seen all of l
Speaker 1: A coaching come out, Like every single people came out
Speaker 1: like I kid you not, I'm talking about I don't
Speaker 1: know if there was gang members, but it's Chinese people
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was Latinos.
Speaker 1: I had because in New York that it's very common
Speaker 1: to see Latinos and blacks together in l A. I
Speaker 1: didn't see that a lot. You get that show, I
Speaker 1: see that the show, I see that Nipsey show. That
Speaker 1: was the first time I was like, holy.
Speaker 2: Ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So like I felt like I felt like in that sense,
Speaker 1: he was almost as powerful as Malcolm X.
Speaker 2: Like that's how I like, that's.
Speaker 3: How powerful he was, Like I said to a lot
Speaker 3: of people, he was like he was the essence of
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do and be. When you from
Speaker 3: l A and you claim a neighborhood or whatever two
Speaker 3: people he was.
Speaker 2: He was just that.
Speaker 3: You get me, uh, you know, we we had that
Speaker 3: element like when Easy first started rapping.
Speaker 2: Easy.
Speaker 3: You know, Compton was vicious, but Easy had it to
Speaker 3: where niggas felt good about being from Compton. You give me.
Speaker 5: We had.
Speaker 3: Nigga when Easy came out, Nigga, I don't give a
Speaker 3: funk who you was, blood crip, Mexican nigga.
Speaker 2: You loved boy like you.
Speaker 3: Loved boys in the hood record when we first heard him,
Speaker 3: because it was like, oh shit, this nigga represents us.
Speaker 2: Right, you get me always jump.
Speaker 3: Got it duck.
Speaker 8: But you had a fun row seat to that, like
Speaker 8: that whole Easy earlierly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely it changed or it changed the culture of
Speaker 3: our music, and it allowed a lot of us who
Speaker 3: basically didn't know what the fuck we was finna be doing.
Speaker 3: So we're finna be gang banging, going to prison and seitaries, man,
Speaker 3: because like I said, as a youngster, I ain't see
Speaker 3: shit else right, you get me. You go from nigga,
Speaker 3: I'm watching super Friends on Saturdays, eating Captain Crunch. Next
Speaker 3: thing you know you like out here like Nigga, what
Speaker 3: the fuck I'm for be serving carrying a pistol and
Speaker 3: niggas hit the block with the lights on. Niggas times
Speaker 3: start shooting. You don't see nothing else after that. You
Speaker 3: get me. You see homies dying, You see a couple
Speaker 3: of homies coming up off the dope game. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, nigga we on the block every day.
Speaker 8: So did you ever make any music with random, any
Speaker 8: of them at any point?
Speaker 3: I started right when Easy got sick. I had started
Speaker 3: writing some songs for him. For him, yeah, oh damn,
Speaker 3: your lyrics coming.
Speaker 2: I can hear you.
Speaker 3: I can hear your lyrics I've never heard. I think
Speaker 3: I wrote like two songs for Easy, but nothing came out. No,
Speaker 3: because he got sick.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear. Oh he never recorded him
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: I know the dude I was fucking with back then.
Speaker 3: He had a close relationship with them. So he came
Speaker 3: to me one day and said, Easy might want you
Speaker 3: to write them a couple of songs.
Speaker 6: And you were already putting out records. Yes, was one,
Speaker 6: It was already out.
Speaker 3: Yes, So I wrote two songs and they wanted me
Speaker 3: to lay the lyrics to him, and I never did
Speaker 3: it because he got sick.
Speaker 5: Yes, they had some ship dog because I heard his
Speaker 5: song because you know, Bob can he was doing when
Speaker 5: she was. After Drake left, my god brother started doing
Speaker 5: a lot of the staff production over there, and Bob
Speaker 5: played me a record with Wren easy, motherfucking doctor Dre
Speaker 5: and Q like the n W A ship that ship
Speaker 5: Still to this day, I asked small time man play
Speaker 5: that ship for me. Said, Hey, motherfucking the hardest ship I.
Speaker 2: Ever heard those dog that was hard after the beach,
Speaker 2: after the beef, like the was gonna get this.
Speaker 5: And all of them sound and the beat was so
Speaker 5: motherfucking crazy dog. It was just was like the silent
Speaker 5: crazy a lot he was early days. Man, please Rn Man,
Speaker 5: come on, man, she swallowed it and all that.
Speaker 2: Mother he was crazy.
Speaker 3: Wren is uh, he's more the silent partner. He's very quiet.
Speaker 2: And he was real loyal to the situation.
Speaker 3: I talked to Wren. You was you really was around?
Speaker 8: Like what I found out about you, I did my homework,
Speaker 8: like and like your knowledge of hip hop is you
Speaker 8: got a great knowledge of hip hop?
Speaker 2: Right it was.
Speaker 8: I watched a couple of interviews, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 8: growing up you know, like in Compton, Like that's where
Speaker 8: arguably gangster hip hop, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 8: it was made when you came with your sound, it.
Speaker 2: Was like the piano strings, the hot high pitchure.
Speaker 8: It was different from most of the other gang banging
Speaker 8: like you really.
Speaker 2: Everybody was used that sound.
Speaker 3: Everybody was doing a lot of bpms, was up in
Speaker 3: the high notes, and it was fast slowed all the
Speaker 3: way down. When I started rapping, you know, I like movies.
Speaker 3: I would always like when the movie get to that part,
Speaker 3: know somebody from the die or the jump out to it.
Speaker 3: So I always wanted my music to fit.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, because music to.
Speaker 3: Tell the soundtrack or the story that was going on.
Speaker 3: So I never got into the fast paced ship because
Speaker 3: I wanted niggas to hear me like I'm Frienna, I'm
Speaker 3: sit down and listen to what I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: What's that producer? Who was that DJ Slip produced? I
Speaker 3: wanted my ship to be the soundtrack to the streets.
Speaker 3: So ship, you're getting me niggas struggling, motherfucking they just
Speaker 3: drove by Miss Daisy, motherfucking the hood took me under.
Speaker 3: Niggas still struggling. I wanted niggas to know, like, Nigga,
Speaker 3: it's real, like it's real fucked up where I'm from, Like,
Speaker 3: and I'm getting a chance to tell motherfuckers Nigga. Last night,
Speaker 3: so and so got shot with the k and then
Speaker 3: the homies went and did this and block blah blah.
Speaker 3: Then the ones came through Nigga and they took all
Speaker 3: of us to jail. And now we're sitting up nigga.
Speaker 3: Y'all need to hear this ship because you cannot tell
Speaker 3: me that so mighty over there and with the jail
Speaker 3: to night and there or just getting caught up. So
Speaker 3: I wanted my ship to be sinister. And when you
Speaker 3: sat back and listened to my ship.
Speaker 2: You can envision the hell motherfuck it.
Speaker 3: Ye, it wasn't the same La drive by on the
Speaker 3: Nigga right now.
Speaker 2: So how crazy was it for you? When when finally
Speaker 2: it was a soundtrack record on Boys in the Hood,
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was because that it's exactly what you're
Speaker 2: describing you wanted to create.
Speaker 3: I used to hang out with Shout Out my dude
Speaker 3: j D from the Lynch.
Speaker 2: Bob.
Speaker 3: Me and him was real good friends. And this was
Speaker 3: at the time where they was filming boys Jays, that's
Speaker 3: locked up there, J shout out my nigga, JD. So
Speaker 3: we used to go up to the set. You know,
Speaker 3: they was with Q whatever whatever. I didn't even know
Speaker 3: John single to but you.
Speaker 2: Had already film minutes or no before. But he had
Speaker 2: the hand in both.
Speaker 3: This was when I had what was I did? I
Speaker 3: just dropped one time gaffled them up and so the
Speaker 3: video was out whatever blah blah. Saw I go up
Speaker 3: to the set with JD and John Singleton come out
Speaker 3: the trailer and me and JD just standing there smoking.
Speaker 3: He walked right up to me. He said, that video
Speaker 3: as hard as fuck.
Speaker 2: What video he talking about?
Speaker 3: He talked about one time gaffled them up. That was
Speaker 3: my first And I'm looking like, who is this motherfucker?
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, this is my movie and
Speaker 3: I'm shooting boys in the Hood. And I was like yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I'm still a young nigga hood nigga. I'm like yeah, whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna get you on my soundtrack. And
Speaker 3: I was like, man, please, this nigga ain't fucking with me.
Speaker 3: And no, he was like no, no, man, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you and like two weeks later they called and so
Speaker 3: I got to see the movie. And then I was
Speaker 3: going to the set every day, so I got to
Speaker 3: see the movie.
Speaker 2: Boys and the Hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to make the lig while they was
Speaker 3: making it. So I was like, oh, this ship going
Speaker 3: to be easy as fun. Nigga growing up in the hood, nigga,
Speaker 3: this the year and I didn't even know what the
Speaker 3: fuck was going to happen, And moms was treating me
Speaker 3: like I wasn't shipping, and my younger brother was getting
Speaker 3: all the love because I was at home in the
Speaker 3: hood with a single mom with a younger brother, and
Speaker 3: I was the middle kid. So I'm like, nigga, this
Speaker 3: is me right, So it was easy to pin that
Speaker 3: type of you seen the movie before everybody else? Ya,
Speaker 3: I was on me in a little.
Speaker 8: Did you know it was gonna be as big as
Speaker 8: it was? Did you know it was gonna be as
Speaker 8: big as it was when you've seen it?
Speaker 3: I thought it was because those movies started jumping off,
Speaker 3: you get me. Tupac did Juice, they did South Central
Speaker 3: with Plumber. There we had colors. So I'm like, oh this,
Speaker 3: I'm like this ship friing it take off like.
Speaker 6: It was more authentic or you felt like one of
Speaker 6: those movies, like all of them were the same.
Speaker 3: It was different, but it still showed neighborhood incidents. I
Speaker 3: think that's why Boys in the Hood did so.
Speaker 2: Good, because it felt more real than the other movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was you know, with Trey and
Speaker 3: the college and all that shit. That was something different.
Speaker 3: You know, as you've seen in Minutes. You know, it
Speaker 3: was totally different. You know, many stay was just trying
Speaker 3: to show niggas in the hood and how a nigga
Speaker 3: trying to escape. You know what I'm saying. When you
Speaker 3: got the script a wax. When you got the script right,
Speaker 3: when you got like, did you okay? You know because
Speaker 3: the script was like your life, so you could really write.
Speaker 3: You can relate to what's in there.
Speaker 8: So when you're on the movie set, I'm sure that
Speaker 8: there's a lot of improvision going on.
Speaker 3: And like your improvisers, right, they let me do a
Speaker 3: lot of adlets. So what scene do you think you
Speaker 3: improvised that was off script and that made.
Speaker 8: It seem better? What part of the movie that was
Speaker 8: like because of you? That's my favorite movie. That's a
Speaker 8: great mess.
Speaker 6: Two movies to me or so I got.
Speaker 3: The ad lib the killing park. That was like a
Speaker 3: lot of me ad, living, burgers, staying and a lot
Speaker 3: of meat inside.
Speaker 2: You mean, before you get to the murder.
Speaker 3: While we're going to the battle and we're talking and
Speaker 3: all that. When I'm geting that was all improvosed in
Speaker 3: the park where I ran in the back and was like, hey,
Speaker 3: you need something.
Speaker 2: That was all I probably always told you this.
Speaker 10: You did that role so good for years I was
Speaker 10: scared of you too good.
Speaker 2: I was just like, that's him, man.
Speaker 1: I didn't think you were active, and I was like
Speaker 1: he has to have experienced somehow.
Speaker 3: I wasn't really acting because it's like niggas. You there's
Speaker 3: one all three nigga killed a homie and I get
Speaker 3: a chance, you put yourself Adam, shoot you once I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do. I'm gonna go the whole thing on you.
Speaker 3: They kick you and call your punk ass nigga and
Speaker 3: like let's go hill Is.
Speaker 2: It was like you gassed the little homies.
Speaker 1: It's like if you think about it, like I watched
Speaker 1: it come this morning again and I'm like.
Speaker 3: You the o g Then I'm telling niggas going to
Speaker 3: this ship.
Speaker 2: Go go go.
Speaker 3: Don't do that ship while we're right here.
Speaker 1: That's what I didn't remember that to this morning. I'm watching,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, this nigga's old ship.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh Jesus fluence do a lot of ship, nigga.
Speaker 3: Go some niggas across the street and get right now.
Speaker 3: What's her name? The one with the what's her name?
Speaker 3: The one with the dress that was in there with y'all?
Speaker 3: That was all who played the homegirl.
Speaker 2: She got the same girl and that was in uh
Speaker 2: uh you know New Jack City. Was that the same
Speaker 2: one who said rock the block? Baby? Was that the
Speaker 2: okay scene? That's one of the other scenes she was.
Speaker 3: She was like a young actress or whatever from l A.
Speaker 3: She she was okay, sure, yeah, getting the park Like
Speaker 3: I didn't know the niggas was gonna choose me. It
Speaker 3: was brother, yeah, they had it was it was me
Speaker 3: and mc wren who was going out.
Speaker 2: For the pot. I can't picture now because they told me.
Speaker 3: They told me, uh, they want I read for it
Speaker 3: and they wanted Wing to Red read for it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he actually did. She would have got
Speaker 3: an award for that because every rapper wanted to like
Speaker 3: when they watched you wanted to be like I wanted
Speaker 3: to be wax like it was.
Speaker 2: Old dogging and you know what I'm saying. Okay, but
Speaker 2: right the way you did your ship bro.
Speaker 8: And then to have the song on it all like
Speaker 8: like that had to be like you know, like something's
Speaker 8: just something's just clicked that it just clicked.
Speaker 2: Like I hadn't know.
Speaker 3: I never you know again, they hit me up. I
Speaker 3: went out. I read. I didn't think the niggas was going.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Nigga, y'all can go get tupac or mother.
Speaker 3: I mean, when y'all got y'all can get motherfucking juice.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, man that they called me like
Speaker 3: they called me like three times and on the third
Speaker 3: time they was like, yeah, you got the part, and
Speaker 3: I was like okay and ship. So I just when
Speaker 3: I read the script and I seen what the movie about,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh man, I was yesterday, you give me.
Speaker 3: I was on the block, like I said, up until then,
Speaker 3: I was stealing in.
Speaker 2: The Did you like the process of making the film?
Speaker 3: No? Man, wait all that ship Man call time at
Speaker 3: five o'clock in the fucking morning. And then sometimes you're
Speaker 3: sitting around all day and then you don't even shoot
Speaker 3: your scene and next thing you know, they tell you
Speaker 3: can leave and you've been up there nine hours and ship.
Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 3: It was some days it was cool. Some days I
Speaker 3: was like, non, fuck this ship. But in the end
Speaker 3: it was all worth it.
Speaker 5: You hear.
Speaker 3: It put us as far as CMW and me on
Speaker 3: a different plateau.
Speaker 2: And the song was a hit.
Speaker 3: We was able to extending I'm I'm going overseas now
Speaker 3: and all kinds of shit, so you know, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a beautiful thing. Always shout out to the
Speaker 3: Huge Brothers for that.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just be honest with you, that's shout. That
Speaker 1: scene is so classic, like so classic. Today I was
Speaker 1: with my my younger on Younger Homies, younger than me,
Speaker 1: and I was just like you can see minutes and
Speaker 1: they was just like it was looking at me like
Speaker 1: I was like, you didn't see that scene, and it
Speaker 1: was like the fact that they didn't know. I felt
Speaker 1: like they couldn't read, Like I was.
Speaker 2: Like, you don't want to read what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: That thing when he said all these parts of your homie,
Speaker 1: when when he said to him your home.
Speaker 2: You need some help.
Speaker 12: And then I was like, got got up all I
Speaker 12: was like, oh he did that before.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get into the quick Time. Damn.
Speaker 1: Somebody sending to Zeno. Somebody uh send him the quick
Speaker 1: Time of slime. You got you got Zeno number?
Speaker 2: Ask? Yeah? Hold on all right, cool me stop.
Speaker 8: I don't even drink right, as long as drink you
Speaker 8: we're go.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we're gonna let me drink more. I think I
Speaker 13: think you're we don't drinking.
Speaker 1: He came with a mission that, but we're gonna get
Speaker 1: you a designated drinker.
Speaker 3: Okay, bring him on.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna drink?
Speaker 3: Swallowing?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Sonny, you have a bus drink Yeah, drinks for you.
Speaker 10: You're not gonna have Yeah, and no genos because being
Speaker 10: that Sunday is from Boston, he'll be you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna say that.
Speaker 14: Come on, come on, let me see that.
Speaker 2: I should have man, I was looking for so much
Speaker 2: to that. I should have brought that. All right, Damn,
Speaker 2: you know you're driving right cool, We're good? Yeah? No, no, no, no, yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: somebody standing there for me.
Speaker 1: No, No, Sunny's gonna stay the Sunny. Yea drink? Come on,
Speaker 1: drink Javanese. Yeah, so so you use my white friend.
Speaker 3: If you drinking, you're drinking, got.
Speaker 2: Shot shot shot, were drinking with you? We drinking too too.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's let's go.
Speaker 1: It's a long game, but we're gonna have some fun with.
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be zero.
Speaker 5: Who we have.
Speaker 6: We had someone recently, we had a guess that we
Speaker 6: drank like one shot out of twenty.
Speaker 2: Questions, who was it? No? No, but that I was
Speaker 2: here though I wasn't an at t K was smith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you ready? You got the rules? Damn you
Speaker 1: know you're explaining the rules better.
Speaker 6: We're gonna give you two choices, right, if you pick one,
Speaker 6: no drinking, right if you say if you say both.
Speaker 6: If you don't pick like you say both are neither,
Speaker 6: that's not picking. We all take a shot and then
Speaker 6: anything anybody we mentioned like if you've got a story, please,
Speaker 6: let's let's go in.
Speaker 2: And we were trying to bring up stories, you know,
Speaker 2: and Senos band from this park.
Speaker 1: Drink this especially on this one he's drinking through a
Speaker 1: smokes he loves but he looks.
Speaker 2: You ready, Yeah, let's go tupac or easy? Easy?
Speaker 1: Okay, that was easy, easy okay, ice Cube or Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg Cube.
Speaker 2: Man the Big Bow Wild Snoop Dogg Dog Okay, Okay, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's cool. That's cool. Got doctor Dre or d J
Speaker 2: quick Drey God damn man asked questions, don't y'all man,
Speaker 2: you could say both. If you say both, we drink
Speaker 2: uh ship, I should just take the easy brought out.
Speaker 1: Man ship both drink you take, get your shot.
Speaker 6: Jamie, you gotta shot take yeah, take goes right, yeah,
Speaker 6: he go ahead.
Speaker 2: But see what he wants for a son, Jamie Krim
Speaker 2: what this should be? Some ship over there? I got
Speaker 2: what you're drinking over man, wanna what's that? Dominican, Dominicans,
Speaker 2: Dominican maken Dominican making the minute, somethings like beginning. Look you.
Speaker 3: Don't stick up present Dominican. Then you stopped playing. I
Speaker 3: gotta hit this ship now.
Speaker 2: No no wait.
Speaker 1: Nas or jay z ns nice Okay, I was I
Speaker 1: went from Queens I respect that.
Speaker 2: To shore or e forty you're taking the thing.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 2: Don't don't do the forty. Oh man, I'm a drink
Speaker 2: dog Jeers, let's go, Sonny, you're gonna like this. Kendrick
Speaker 2: Lamar Jacob.
Speaker 3: Counting all that.
Speaker 2: I knew that.
Speaker 5: I knew, Hey, man, I don't knew that since he
Speaker 5: was sixteen or fifteen years old. Dog g, that's this
Speaker 5: family right there out all day, all.
Speaker 2: Day, the top dog. This would not let y'all go
Speaker 2: against that. I knew that. Yeah, all eyes on me
Speaker 2: or me against the world. Oh yeah, drink.
Speaker 3: All eyes on me, All eyes on me? Okay, analog
Speaker 3: or digital? Analog me too, and a log me too.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot for that, even though I
Speaker 3: ain't got that.
Speaker 2: I I love analog, man, I wish.
Speaker 1: I always say the reason why our music was better
Speaker 1: back then was because we had to make records together.
Speaker 2: I couldn't send you we had it. We couldn't send
Speaker 2: you no fu eight inch rail personal. It was more personal,
Speaker 2: so we had to. Like the music came out rhymes
Speaker 2: as he wrote it, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: that it is like, it's much better.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking it even though I ain't got to
Speaker 1: take I'm gonna take a shot for that.
Speaker 2: I got the next one, King t Ice Tea, the
Speaker 2: tease King t I knew he was gonna say that.
Speaker 3: That's comes in cont Kings both of us grew up
Speaker 3: on I grew up on King t All of his
Speaker 3: first ship on tech no Hop. I was on take
Speaker 3: hop as a young artist. So the coolest paybacks to mother.
Speaker 3: You better bring the gun.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's like appreciated, like he's such a legend.
Speaker 3: He's definitely underrated, under definitely underrated, under appreciation.
Speaker 2: Taking the forest time before time. And we don't take
Speaker 2: no hop to come on? Come on all right? So
Speaker 2: Death Bro or Ruthless Records? Oh where'd you go?
Speaker 1: That's a great one, bro, Death Bro. You you you're
Speaker 1: too big to pick ruthless. You gotta pick death Row.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. It just looks like a death.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be no death ro. Who wasn't no ruthless.
Speaker 1: I guess if we gotta drink Wenna drink money.
Speaker 2: Said?
Speaker 3: You said both for you said if you.
Speaker 2: Said ruthless, then we don't got to drink. We don't
Speaker 2: drinking ruthless. Okay, niggas want.
Speaker 6: In the move.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 2: I heard you drink champagne. Yeah, I drinking that's what
Speaker 2: your champagne. We get to that later. I got it.
Speaker 2: Mac ten and Joe Yo, you know Mac a call
Speaker 2: the nigga.
Speaker 5: He will see this sho back to back.
Speaker 2: Like you know about it.
Speaker 1: I like that, So we're going back to man get on,
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 5: I'll funk with fact Joe Dog. But I talked to
Speaker 5: Mac team on the phone like two or three times
Speaker 5: a week, roll with Mac starting to begging at one point,
Speaker 5: ain't no knocks against the dying cardigin a cool.
Speaker 1: Nigga and we need we need Mac ten on to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do absolutely ghetto boys or you g K ghetto boys.
Speaker 1: Ghetto boys.
Speaker 6: The story that he told he had them driving him
Speaker 6: around with m face is one of my peaks.
Speaker 8: And he said, rights to rap summing together at Jack's
Speaker 8: house number Yeah, that nigga.
Speaker 2: Bushwick Dog, I had to kick Bush. We got a
Speaker 2: crib dog. Let me tell you.
Speaker 5: I had a homeboy named polar Bear. Right, polar Bear
Speaker 5: is a produced so he's you know, produced for QD
Speaker 5: three and ship. So he called me one day and said, hey, man,
Speaker 5: you know, could you come to my house? Man Bushwoock
Speaker 5: doesn't want to go home, And yeah, you mean Bush
Speaker 5: to get home? So what man, my man's wife is
Speaker 5: My man's wife is in there. You know his wife
Speaker 5: is there in their roadsman shipped man and Bushwicks make
Speaker 5: the man's wife nest your fiction, and my boy want
Speaker 5: to go get so I grabbed him and I say, man,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just get him home. You don't want to
Speaker 5: be Bushwick up my nigga. He only this tall, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? He only this tall. So I
Speaker 5: tell I tell bush I say, man, you know you
Speaker 5: gotta go. You disrespected my man's crib and everything. And
Speaker 5: Bushwick says, man, I don't give a funk how big
Speaker 5: you are. And he was walking through and you try
Speaker 5: to walk on and I slept that little motherfucker out.
Speaker 2: Something ship not today. But Speaker was a little slick mother.
Speaker 2: He was walking over to the time and I said,
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna get me.
Speaker 3: Through.
Speaker 5: His lit the party post Jordan in the backyard. If
Speaker 5: he'd got that part, he probably.
Speaker 2: Kept legendary group though.
Speaker 5: Man big Daddy came, oh man, he asked as questions,
Speaker 5: he take the shot, He take the shot. He ain't drinking,
Speaker 5: so he don't give a big Daddy, Big Daddy Wow.
Speaker 5: He really just don't say both. He don't give a
Speaker 5: about politics, don't drink.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I just think he could, but he's not.
Speaker 3: You drinking if I if I if I'm going off
Speaker 3: of me as a youth and hip hop and what
Speaker 3: I listened to and whatever, I'm gonna pick the motherfucker
Speaker 3: who's it.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm big Daddy.
Speaker 3: Banged some Big Daddy can get men.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't bang a lot of l ll till later
Speaker 3: on because Nigga, we was hood niggas and that I
Speaker 3: need love kind of threw us off of the I
Speaker 3: was Nigga. Big Daddy was raw and.
Speaker 2: Nigga he was.
Speaker 3: He made that Nigga. Big Daddy said, Nigga, he would
Speaker 3: grow up on this ship. You know, you know what
Speaker 3: niggas over here.
Speaker 2: You an't think, what's the hardest motherfucking the world.
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 3: He was hard, man. I'm just saying, Nigga. At the time,
Speaker 3: niggas was like, Nigga, I don't need no love, Nigga,
Speaker 3: I need the motherfucking.
Speaker 2: Ship making ladies. Anyways, exactly you over there for the lady.
Speaker 2: So well, right, that's my the nails, Nigga rady this
Speaker 2: lift ship.
Speaker 3: When when we banged Leo, like I said, rock the
Speaker 3: bells and.
Speaker 4: All that ship all of that.
Speaker 2: But then I Nick came with that.
Speaker 3: Dude, I was like, man, what.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on that ship. I liked it.
Speaker 3: It was weird at first because I'm used to mother,
Speaker 3: like you said, I used to walk the bell check
Speaker 3: the ripper ship. Mama said, knocks you out, Nigga phote
Speaker 3: shots to the dome. I play that ship all day.
Speaker 3: But like I said back then, nigga, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: fair enough. I'm telling I got the nigga.
Speaker 2: I can't be walking around the hook. I need love.
Speaker 4: Come on, ship, Nigga, like you're playing that ship, Like.
Speaker 2: Dude, what you're playing? Niggas to something.
Speaker 3: Any time that came on the mixtape was like I
Speaker 3: need Look, were in the garage chilling nigga and the
Speaker 3: mixtape come on. And then one of them on Little Niggas,
Speaker 3: is like, man, come on, niggas might come.
Speaker 5: Through right now, dumping and ship niggas. If we did,
Speaker 5: nigga be dead on the scene.
Speaker 7: And the police walk up like they was playing I
Speaker 7: need no you know, like we're about to pull up
Speaker 7: on some niggas and.
Speaker 2: The dump and ship.
Speaker 3: The nigga got hi and he loved ship.
Speaker 2: Like niggas looking at us. We're about to dump out
Speaker 2: of the niggas. Niggas don't want no status.
Speaker 3: Nigga ain't pulling up you hear a song that's cool nigga, y'all.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't look at you know what? King,
Speaker 2: but you ain't you ain't picky man.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: He got me thinking right now because Big Daddy came
Speaker 5: off off you. You dad, he can't have me cut
Speaker 5: my eyebrows.
Speaker 3: That's some man.
Speaker 2: You have a whole bunch of niggas cut l was hard.
Speaker 3: He Kinge was a hood nigga. Jane was a hood niggas.
Speaker 3: When about come on?
Speaker 5: When I heard in my mind at least Big Jess
Speaker 5: Kane and on the symphony ship and they was going
Speaker 5: back and forth. It was like that was like Superman
Speaker 5: versus motherfucking Spider Man and some ship.
Speaker 2: You damn like what you picking? We drink? Man your
Speaker 2: hands because you plagued yourself. You see that ship? So
Speaker 2: who you picking?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Take long live the mother sucking came. Don't want to
Speaker 5: drink because he's clear, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Dog he packs yeah, yeah, loot you minister society or thinking.
Speaker 2: The water minutes yeah, of course the sauce. Or look
Speaker 2: look at what I just showed the cover, the source
Speaker 2: he lead the class. I don't think it's going.
Speaker 3: That y'all have me on to covers.
Speaker 2: Guess guess how many covers I had? Zero ninety nine.
Speaker 2: You see, he looked the other way to me, and
Speaker 2: what he didn't like me? He thought I was responsing.
Speaker 3: S shot.
Speaker 2: He really.
Speaker 1: I was so bad right that twenty years later we
Speaker 1: became like friends, right, and we were arguing about something
Speaker 1: totally different, and I just.
Speaker 4: Give me the course.
Speaker 2: That ship, you know, that was twenty years ago. You
Speaker 2: want to be mad with sol boring ship over?
Speaker 5: You do that to his face.
Speaker 1: Listen, let me tell you who I'm going to be
Speaker 1: honest with me to so to his faith, i'ma be
Speaker 1: honest with you. It was me corrupt d M X
Speaker 1: Cameron and big pun right and can't cannabis And what
Speaker 1: was my mass.
Speaker 2: To beat all?
Speaker 3: The motherfucker was like Kidd's disrespect.
Speaker 2: What you say had just came home the Cavdonna Canna, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so wet.
Speaker 1: He was in like the best new artists, right, he
Speaker 1: was like, alright, cool? Then he beat us album of
Speaker 1: the Year. He was like, all right, cool, he beat
Speaker 1: us seven categories.
Speaker 2: Me and pun left man as a motherfucker man every
Speaker 2: time you're sing that motherfucker doing that should he be doing?
Speaker 2: And I was. I told, I was like, oh, silk man,
Speaker 2: I can't believe you. You beat us in every category?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: What was that based on?
Speaker 15: Hold on.
Speaker 2: About silk and here job here, old man.
Speaker 5: About it?
Speaker 2: What question was this?
Speaker 3: Miss my thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you remember this question?
Speaker 3: He said?
Speaker 2: How is this against the chronicles edition?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: A source?
Speaker 8: Right, You've got a journalistics a side journalism and then
Speaker 8: you have your business side on the journalism side. It's
Speaker 8: like the is the journalist and the one thing I
Speaker 8: will say t O N Y is my favorite verse?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you can't give me a I was, okay,
Speaker 2: come on, I told you that here, Come on, hold.
Speaker 3: Want to make sure you know I'm on that side
Speaker 3: of the top persons on the jay Z and no versus.
Speaker 2: But that verse you're about giving silk the woman over
Speaker 2: your door?
Speaker 12: It was.
Speaker 2: Shut shut out, shot shut out.
Speaker 14: Differently, he was buying like six ads, thing like, think
Speaker 14: about he's buying six ads of magazine.
Speaker 2: I get it. So you know what I'm saying that's
Speaker 2: the only thing that I could think you need me
Speaker 2: as a fan, you know, business and corrupt. It was like,
Speaker 2: I want to give it to me. You're gonna get Jason.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking nothing away from you. But at the time,
Speaker 1: that was the time of real hip hop different. Silk
Speaker 1: just wasn't at that time considered real hip hop.
Speaker 2: So it was corrupt. Like I said, it was me corrupt.
Speaker 1: Cameron big punts still and I was just like that,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be honest. I wanted to lose, not to
Speaker 1: say Silk is not a reputable opponent. I wanted to
Speaker 1: lose with somebody that's a repetable next to him.
Speaker 2: And when you buy and what's your definitely by I
Speaker 2: was definitely looking at that.
Speaker 3: You can see, I know my nigga Corrupt was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: to get his breath on that, but he was like, not, damn.
Speaker 2: I realized that's like the equivalent of losing the crypt
Speaker 2: mac of some ship.
Speaker 3: Look, that's a parental advisory sticker by yourself on his
Speaker 3: own ship on a record label.
Speaker 1: This ship right now, Hold on, hold, let's go all right,
Speaker 1: Doggy style or the chronic.
Speaker 2: It's a tough one. Right there doggy style.
Speaker 5: Wow, oh ship man, you just keep it to reals sometimes.
Speaker 2: What you what you're going with? Dog? He said with
Speaker 2: the chronic Man. Even though I will say this, it
Speaker 2: ain't an artist.
Speaker 16: Like you do.
Speaker 15: I like now.
Speaker 2: Tripping Dog.
Speaker 5: It wasn't no album like Dog, he styled when that
Speaker 5: ship first came off, because it was playing everywhere Dog.
Speaker 5: Like every party I went through, that motherfucker was playing Dog.
Speaker 5: It didn't matter if I was in Virginia, something fucking.
Speaker 2: Wag or director. It broke the thing and Snoop DOGG
Speaker 2: just the coolest motherfucking the world. But over the chronic
Speaker 2: I think, let me let me finish it though.
Speaker 5: I think the chronic dough Dog that introduced that nigga
Speaker 5: man Snoop dog and it was just like the political
Speaker 5: climbing at the time. Man, it was ot l a
Speaker 5: tripping and ship motherfucker's running down the streak with.
Speaker 3: TV and you just got to go with your personal taste.
Speaker 3: That's what this about you.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I can't say. We gotta drink doggs bucket.
Speaker 2: I gotta drink for.
Speaker 5: That though, Okay Andre three thousand or conversation, Okay three thousand,
Speaker 5: what was the question ludicris, Oh, ship man, y'all be
Speaker 5: asked hypothetical ask questions. Ship, I gotta go on for
Speaker 5: three thousand man three stacks.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. Primo or battle Cat Primo. You got
Speaker 2: you gotta joint? Yeah, now's your primo. He's I got
Speaker 2: a joint. I gotta go with battle Cat dogs on front.
Speaker 2: Right there both read them both back. We're coming back.
Speaker 2: We're working on that. Cash money or no Limit that's
Speaker 2: a good one. That's a real good one. Cash money.
Speaker 2: I got to go cash money because the niggas still here,
Speaker 2: I mean, no limit technically still here.
Speaker 3: I don't see this is what I don't judge it
Speaker 3: off of that. I just go off of what I banged.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: I didn't bang a lot of no literal cash money
Speaker 3: because of BG. I banged some cash.
Speaker 2: Cash money was the ship Don't.
Speaker 3: Car was all cash and banged the Hot Boys album.
Speaker 3: Banged the funk out of that city. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: cracking that that album that they all had together, the
Speaker 3: Hot Boys. I banged that off was so crazy. I
Speaker 3: didn't listen to like master p is cool. I was
Speaker 3: gonna sign the No Limit at one time. Really yeah,
Speaker 3: right before I signed the Who Bayon, I was gonna
Speaker 3: sign a no.
Speaker 2: Limit, but I didn't listen. That would have been before Snoop.
Speaker 3: That was right before I signed the Mac tin.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying before Snoop signed the No Limit, he
Speaker 2: was signed to them already. I got to them because
Speaker 2: of Snoop.
Speaker 3: Because at that time, when Snoop was in his transition,
Speaker 3: I was hanging out with him every day. I was
Speaker 3: hanging out with Snoop every day almost. So he took
Speaker 3: me up to the studio where P and Then was
Speaker 3: and when I walked in, he was like, fuck it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna we you know. Snoop said, fuck it, so
Speaker 3: we're gonna sign you. So I was gonna sign the
Speaker 3: no Limit and then Mac Tim walked in.
Speaker 2: Dom Kennedy or Larry June, Dom.
Speaker 5: Kendy O Larry June. She just almost feels like if
Speaker 5: I say one, that is the wrong answer.
Speaker 3: You know this, think you it's serious. Come on, and
Speaker 3: I know we ain't got time for nothing personal. It's
Speaker 3: just what you explain over whatever.
Speaker 2: Glabby shot eight. I'm gonna do both of them niggas
Speaker 2: up the next Yeah, Cypress Hill or cycle realm Cypress.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta say Cypress dog because it ain't no
Speaker 5: cycle round without Cypress.
Speaker 2: W A publican me, oh, man, you know that's w A.
Speaker 2: You gotta.
Speaker 3: Come on with black still got with black still in
Speaker 3: our chaos, man of course.
Speaker 6: But look at think about it when Q Please Republic
Speaker 6: enemy and look at how.
Speaker 2: Perfect that was. Yeah, but n w A yeah, man,
Speaker 2: you know you're leading the witnesses. That was the ship
Speaker 2: when Q started working with the bomb Squad and ship.
Speaker 3: That was saying when he wasn't I'm gonna go I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go both.
Speaker 2: I would have said what.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say, youre gonna say both to say both
Speaker 1: get this hard, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely deserving them both.
Speaker 3: I got a letter from the president. Man, come on, man,
Speaker 3: come on. That was that was That was the other day.
Speaker 3: That was a hood that was AO anthem.
Speaker 2: For us times, you know, and that bomb Squad production
Speaker 2: dre production like.
Speaker 3: That, that that that Chuck d and that that ship
Speaker 3: that song right there was a hood anthem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was the ship right there that beat the
Speaker 2: whole bunch of niggas up. When that ship. I don't
Speaker 2: think that between the physics and ship for.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did. Ain't nobody gonna say no to that.
Speaker 1: Karens wanted to rock him Rocky, he said, fast.
Speaker 2: Rocky Fast, I rock YIM.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my that's my musical influence. I liked k
Speaker 3: r S because of you know, but you can't Rockim
Speaker 3: is who I grew up off. I wanted to rap
Speaker 3: because of Rocky, he said.
Speaker 2: The music.
Speaker 3: I wanted to rap because of Rockym and E P
Speaker 3: M D. And he didn't curse and P M Yeah hip.
Speaker 1: Hop rock You notice rock him didn't curse and he
Speaker 1: was still the hardest.
Speaker 3: Mother was still like, no nigga in here, deny if
Speaker 3: your true hip hop head when you first heard Eric
Speaker 3: B as president.
Speaker 2: Out of here and you didn't love hip hop at
Speaker 2: that point.
Speaker 3: And I get that ship on stat, he asked k
Speaker 3: And I used to wait for that ship, just wait,
Speaker 3: and I have my tape casset ready and and it's
Speaker 3: KD was the shittiest radio state because it was on
Speaker 3: motherfucking AM and it was the last station. So nigga,
Speaker 3: you get all kinds of Mexican music in their mix.
Speaker 3: You had to set you. They do the mixed masters
Speaker 3: every Saturday, Night Nigga and it was like and when
Speaker 3: they played it, I used to wait, Nigga President, come on,
Speaker 3: do you hear that? Motherfucker?
Speaker 2: Oh ude do dude ooh ooh.
Speaker 3: And I ain't talking about the seven minute remix one now,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the original Nigga Bam nigga. And I
Speaker 3: used to listen to that ship for hours and Uh
Speaker 3: Easy didn't like me in the beginning because he said
Speaker 3: I sounded too much like rock yimally, yeah wow, Yeah.
Speaker 3: We tried to go We tried to fuck with Ruthless
Speaker 3: in them and he said I sounded too much like
Speaker 3: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Compass. Most money was almost on Ruthless Records.
Speaker 3: We tried to go through Ruthless and he said, no,
Speaker 3: eight sound too that nigga sound too much like Rockym.
Speaker 3: So we ended up fucking with Capitol Records.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Capitol turn into Priority.
Speaker 3: Capital was back then, we was fucking with Orpheus. Okay, yes, Orpheus.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Melbourne Moore's husband owned Orpheus, Charles Huggins, and that's how
Speaker 3: we got signed. We went through Orpheus SKI and my
Speaker 3: our first record deal and that was through Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna move on a little bit. L A Raiders
Speaker 3: or l A Chargers. I'm a Chargers fan, been since
Speaker 3: Kellen Winslow, since Doug found Fox, since motherfucking Charlie Joiner.
Speaker 3: You know what was that offense call they used to
Speaker 3: Humphreys they had back then Natron means they, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a true Charger fan.
Speaker 2: How about you Chargers? That was easy. I got one
Speaker 2: more before the last. Okay, big Boys neighborhood or the
Speaker 2: Baker Boys big boy man.
Speaker 5: I really funk with the Baker Boys, dog, but I
Speaker 5: fuck with big boy. I gotta go with a big boy.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, respect the boy.
Speaker 1: And this is the last last one. Not a true question.
Speaker 1: It's not a true question. All the ones we feel
Speaker 1: like this one is not the true question. Loyalty or respect.
Speaker 1: Respect mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Explain.
Speaker 3: Respect take you a long way in this business and
Speaker 3: just with people in general. Everybody's not gonna be loyal
Speaker 3: to you. Niggas gonna turn their back on you. When
Speaker 3: you gather a niggas respect, then it's never no bullshit.
Speaker 2: You know what you get.
Speaker 3: You nigga gonna never try to cheat you fuck you.
Speaker 3: You give me because a nigga got that much respect
Speaker 3: for you. You ain't got to be the richest nigga.
Speaker 3: You ain't got to be the poorest nigga. But if
Speaker 3: you gotta respect from a man and just people in general,
Speaker 3: then you can be treated, you know, accordingly without respect. Man,
Speaker 3: a nigga, do you dirty? Man, nigga, do you dirty?
Speaker 3: If he don't respect you, nigga, fuck your wife. Man.
Speaker 3: If he don't respect you, you feel me, Nigga rob
Speaker 3: you for every penny you got if he can. If
Speaker 3: he don't respect you, at least, when a nigga respect you,
Speaker 3: he gonna like as if I'm gonna do it myself. Man,
Speaker 3: you give me, I ain't gonna cheat myself, and I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna cheat my nigga. Right here, it's one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand on the table. Nigga ain't gonna take seventy and
Speaker 3: give you thirty. They gotta respect this man. This nigga
Speaker 3: came up with me. You know somebody I trust. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure everything is on the up and up.
Speaker 3: Nigga loyal to another fucker, tell you they loyal to
Speaker 3: you and do you behind your back like it ain't ship.
Speaker 3: If a nigga, respect you. He don't never try to
Speaker 3: fuck you over, never, So respect.
Speaker 5: I gotta go with respect too, man, because I don't
Speaker 5: make motherfucker's a lot of money. He had to go,
Speaker 5: you know, motherfuckers go back and do this whatever. So
Speaker 5: I say, respect, respect us everything.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a shot to that. Ye take a shot.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot to that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a shot. Now. Is it true that
Speaker 2: your moms and Sugar Nights moms.
Speaker 3: Stay across the street from each other from each other?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 3: Around the height of my DJ Quick beef.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: My mom stayed across the street from his mom. I
Speaker 3: just see him all the time. I remembers some shit
Speaker 3: going on in the neighborhoods, you know whatever. But Shugar
Speaker 3: pulled me over one time, probably about thirty niggas, right,
Speaker 3: and he just made me assure that even though niggas
Speaker 3: was beefing and niggas was rolling around Compton looking for
Speaker 3: each other or going through neighborhoods and all that shit,
Speaker 3: he assured that my mom's house wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Get fucked with Sugar shirted. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, he say, as long as your mom live over here.
Speaker 3: Nothing happened to her crib. So I respected that, and.
Speaker 1: Just out of pure ignorance, I know Sugar's blood. I
Speaker 1: know Quickest blood, but what I don't know is the affiliation.
Speaker 1: Just because you blood, did he automatically take quick side
Speaker 1: because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't never remember quick being on death bro.
Speaker 3: I think Sug was managing quick At. Okay was different.
Speaker 3: He wasn't on different. He was as managed. He was
Speaker 3: being managed by Shure, and he could everybody knew about
Speaker 3: our beef. You know, it wasn't It wasn't nothing you
Speaker 3: know that wasn't known. And like I said, I was
Speaker 3: still in the neighborhood. So the outtake is, you know,
Speaker 3: something happened here, but it could be easily something happened there.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 3: Right here, like just a walk across the street, ain't
Speaker 3: nobody gonna come do none to my mama house. And
Speaker 3: I'm and we in close vicinity. So he had he
Speaker 3: wanted to guarantee that, like this ain't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with mamas. Yeah, y'all beefing or whatever out here,
Speaker 3: talking the streets or whatever, whatever, just know that this
Speaker 3: is secure right here. That's one less problem. So that
Speaker 3: was cool because he could, like you said, just by
Speaker 3: affiliation with them being you know, could have been like
Speaker 3: fuck that nigga, Mama house lived right here.
Speaker 2: So but that was never you know, we try to
Speaker 2: have that. Uh that cold was that was that enough
Speaker 2: assurance for you to feel that, yeah, you had.
Speaker 3: Didn't know that at the time, that that that because again,
Speaker 3: if something happened, is nobody safe, Like so you can
Speaker 3: assure me, but like a nigga could get his own
Speaker 3: mind state and be like fuck that we're gonna go
Speaker 3: through there anyway. Okay, but okay, now what because that's
Speaker 3: that's not gonna It's gonna be some retaliation, So why
Speaker 3: not take that out of the equation.
Speaker 1: I remember, like you know, I started to think about
Speaker 1: hip hop beefs and when it wasn't funny, like like,
Speaker 1: I never speak on jah rule in fifties all. I
Speaker 1: never speak on it because me being from Queens, I'm
Speaker 1: too close to it. It's just it's just it's just
Speaker 1: it's just not it's not for me, right. And I'm
Speaker 1: probably the only person in the world that got a
Speaker 1: Jahru interview where I don't bring up fifty And I'm
Speaker 1: probably the only person in the world. I got a
Speaker 1: fifty interview where I don't bring up Jo rule because
Speaker 1: I don't think it's funny.
Speaker 2: I never thought it was funny. No, it's not without
Speaker 2: me having direct association to you all. Quick.
Speaker 1: I remember me looking at y'all beefs and saying that
Speaker 1: was looking about it was funny like because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you obviously at that time, and I
Speaker 1: didn't I actually kind of still. I only met Quick
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but I didn't know him as well.
Speaker 1: But I remember the affiliation of me. Every motherfucker's telling
Speaker 1: me Yo eight is a real nigga street nigga, but
Speaker 1: then they're saying Quick as a real nigh street nigga.
Speaker 1: And I remember that y'ah going against each other, and
Speaker 1: just the fact that I knew that Bloods and crips.
Speaker 2: Was at the opposite ends. And I remember like hearing
Speaker 2: your dis records and then hearing his dis records. I
Speaker 2: remember being like, damn, how does this? How does this?
Speaker 2: First off?
Speaker 1: Let me just let me, let me, let me make
Speaker 1: it make sense, Let me make for viewers that don't
Speaker 1: know I don't remember.
Speaker 2: No, if you hip hop, you right for.
Speaker 1: Viewers that don't know, because I kept, you know, and
Speaker 1: I knew Zeno was guest Houston, so I kept telling
Speaker 1: him myself, Yot's let's look up this.
Speaker 2: I can't say the pinpoint.
Speaker 1: I know you said something like Quick or something like that,
Speaker 1: but you said then I also read that you said
Speaker 1: you didn't know Quick at that time. No I did,
Speaker 1: couldn't have been you was talking about him. So how
Speaker 1: does this actually start bring down for viewers that don't know.
Speaker 3: I was working on my second album straight checking them.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of artists coming out at the time,
Speaker 3: you know, above the law was coming out. You know,
Speaker 3: the lawyer said, yeah, a couple of So my DJ,
Speaker 3: who's actually a blood name was Mike T. Mike T
Speaker 3: came to the studio one day and he had a
Speaker 3: mixtape and he said, let me play you this, and
Speaker 3: it was Quick on a mixtape he was this in
Speaker 3: all of us Crip affiliated rappers. It was dissing easy,
Speaker 3: n w A this, and me, like, you know, I
Speaker 3: ain't think it was rap ship. It was rap niggas beef.
Speaker 3: They diss each other. I wasn't too on the game
Speaker 3: ship with it. It is whatever, like we rappers niggas
Speaker 3: diss each other.
Speaker 2: You didn't look at dis sing on tape correlated to street.
Speaker 3: Okay, it was just hip hop dis and whatever niggas
Speaker 3: take it didn't take the gang affiliated.
Speaker 2: There wasn't no gun references or like that or what. No,
Speaker 2: it probably was.
Speaker 3: It was you know something something, I'm gonna shoot niggas
Speaker 3: from the top of it. But still in awe. Still,
Speaker 3: it's the game of hip hop. Get me continue. I'm
Speaker 3: not thinking even though he a blood, I'm a crypt,
Speaker 3: but this is the hip hop ship.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry, but do your neighbor I know that
Speaker 1: y'all bloods and crypts and your opposite, but.
Speaker 2: Do your neighborhoods had beef before that? No, okay, continue,
Speaker 2: So remember his his DJ's blood bringing in the time.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I hung around blood, so there wasn't
Speaker 3: no blood thing. Like again, this is what they do.
Speaker 3: LLL was dissing cool O D and that was the
Speaker 3: hip hop ship. So okay, that's what they do. But
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I'm already established. I got a record out,
Speaker 3: you give me, he's still on mix tapes or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I didn't even like this and no about it.
Speaker 3: So I was working On the second album, I did
Speaker 3: a song called death Wish, and on the song I said,
Speaker 3: biting me quick would mean you get my dick suck quick,
Speaker 3: and they took that as me directing it at him
Speaker 3: by saying biting me quick. Biting was the theme back then.
Speaker 3: You biting nigga words or slang, you're biting. So I'm saying,
Speaker 3: if you biting my shit quick, like, if you bite
Speaker 3: it quick, then you're gonna get my duck sick quick.
Speaker 3: No references to DJ Quick or the rapper or whatever.
Speaker 3: But with that already being out there, he a crip,
Speaker 3: you a blood, he's saying quick on the record. I'm
Speaker 3: assuming somebody said he talking about you, and that's how
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: This is after you said that you alleged that he
Speaker 1: was this in everyone who was I heard.
Speaker 3: The mixtape, okay, but it wasn't like I'm finna write
Speaker 3: this song and direct it at him, like.
Speaker 2: You're already ahead, right, yeah, like I'm already out of
Speaker 2: here write that lyrics though? What was you thinking?
Speaker 3: If you bite my if you bite my anybody though
Speaker 3: general general, if you bite my jail, if you bite my.
Speaker 2: Ship, my own ship.
Speaker 8: When you heard that the first time when you heard
Speaker 8: him this and everybody, did you think of anything, like Okay,
Speaker 8: you know what, man, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 8: what's he talking about?
Speaker 2: Like I might say, no, fact, hip hop that's what
Speaker 2: they do, sinking about fifty When he did how to.
Speaker 3: Rob, was like, you know, okay, that's yeah, that was
Speaker 3: the mixtape, Like fucking I'm gonna rob rap niggas or whatever.
Speaker 3: So he doing his mixtape, he like nigga fuck they
Speaker 3: the countess most wanted, n w A. Nobody was left safe.
Speaker 3: So it's hip hop. So when that came out, I
Speaker 3: guess it was directed like y'all got beef. I didn't
Speaker 3: have no beef. But that's the way it built up.
Speaker 3: And now my reputation as being a trag new Park crip,
Speaker 3: I'm not finna back away from the so so okay.
Speaker 1: So after that, he drops his mixtape. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not known, right, it's just it's a local thing.
Speaker 3: A lot of the songs on his mixtape became songs
Speaker 3: on his first album. Oh wow, yeah remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of the songs on his mixtape became songs
Speaker 3: on the first album. But I didn't even I didn't
Speaker 3: I didn't even look at it like that, and our
Speaker 3: beef really just built up behind the streets, behind the affiliations,
Speaker 3: behind games, because if it wasn't that, it would have
Speaker 3: I don't know where it would have went, because I
Speaker 3: didn't start getting warmed up until I did the next
Speaker 3: Death Wish. That's when I was like, fuck it, we're
Speaker 3: going full fledged because he did a song called way
Speaker 3: Too Funky and he mentioned me in the song. So
Speaker 3: that's when it was. It was going back and forth then,
Speaker 3: and by that time Game Niggas is involved.
Speaker 1: Imagine it's over with, over with with hip hop.
Speaker 2: Ship now, it's incredible.
Speaker 8: It's over standing right next to him at the social Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's over with. When when when Quick was on stage,
Speaker 8: he came over, he was right there like at this
Speaker 8: it was Quick they go to stage, he was right
Speaker 8: there at the stage, right in front of the stage,
Speaker 8: like right there, right there.
Speaker 2: I'm like Ship. When Shuk said what he said, okay,
Speaker 2: we already done got past that the same war the
Speaker 2: same night. Yeah, that all that happened.
Speaker 6: But that.
Speaker 2: That was like legendary because.
Speaker 1: I mean I felt like that was the first time
Speaker 1: like a person performed a disc record and artists and
Speaker 1: I could, I could see your face, I could tell
Speaker 1: you what to rush the stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we we was we was, We were smart,
Speaker 3: but we only came nine deep. They had about a hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Sugar flowing like about seventy eighty. Dude, look,
Speaker 2: we take it.
Speaker 3: Were hard, were hard, but we ain't motherfucking stupid.
Speaker 13: You get me.
Speaker 3: Were hard, but we ain't stupid. Eight can't fight a hundred,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: put my homies in that jeopardy.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know the affiliation with Sugar at that time.
Speaker 3: Sugar was managing the performed they.
Speaker 16: Of the.
Speaker 2: Epic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was beautiful, man, beautiful.
Speaker 5: That time was real crazy because it wasn't just sugaring them,
Speaker 5: but it was black turning them too.
Speaker 3: Everybody was yeah, they was all They was all clear
Speaker 3: to somebody.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I thought somebody was gonna get hurt that time
Speaker 5: when was Tiny and Bickie had beef at that award.
Speaker 5: Y'all didn't even know that I heard about that.
Speaker 2: It was it was, it was, it was. That's like
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 3: By the time we got home after that, it.
Speaker 2: Was just it.
Speaker 5: Had issues, Like it was like ship like Black to
Speaker 5: Sugar Freeze labels. The rapper on the West Coast name
Speaker 5: all the pimp ship you know, Tone run ran Lane
Speaker 5: Way Records, right, but Black Tone was like kind of
Speaker 5: like I don't want to say Quick's Manas or nothing
Speaker 5: like that. But from the same neighborhood. They both from Treetop,
Speaker 5: Tree Top, pot roof. And at that time, it wasn't
Speaker 5: just Shouk we had Black Tones, they had all this
Speaker 5: motherfucker people. I thought somebody was gonna get hurt during
Speaker 5: that time though.
Speaker 2: It was, it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was treacherous times.
Speaker 6: Were you were you guys the first hip hop artists
Speaker 6: that were actually beefing, that were actually affiliated.
Speaker 2: That it was on the opposite side. Obviously there was
Speaker 2: not the first.
Speaker 3: Well known well yeah, well known as far as the
Speaker 3: cripping blood. Yeah, I think we were the first artists
Speaker 3: on the West Coast and just nationwide who was affiliated
Speaker 3: who started beefing. But you know, shit started happening that
Speaker 3: we couldn't control. It was getting out of hand. Niggas
Speaker 3: was getting hurt, you know, outside.
Speaker 2: Of neighborhoods and neighborhood Yeah, niggas beefing and niggas was
Speaker 2: getting hurt.
Speaker 3: Somebody got killed. Yeah, I heard that it was treacherous.
Speaker 2: Let's get the Snoop uh uh called it in.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: They were doing a show on b E T. I
Speaker 3: think Tavis smile smile, Quick Wick asks, I mean Snoop
Speaker 3: asked me to go, and then he told me Quick
Speaker 3: was gonna be there, and he asked me would I
Speaker 3: show up? And I say, yeah, fuck it, I don't
Speaker 3: give a fun Oh yeah, didn't see each other prior
Speaker 3: to that table.
Speaker 2: Shoutut to Snoop.
Speaker 1: Because I just watched that tabs sbody in the interview.
Speaker 2: See you telling me the first time you and Quick
Speaker 2: staw each other.
Speaker 3: That was our first time ever meeting face to face.
Speaker 3: What period period out of all the beams, out all
Speaker 3: the ship talking, we never seen each other. But y'all
Speaker 3: was so professional in that interview. I thought, y'all at
Speaker 3: that time, I was like, man, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm going on my third fourth album. You know, the
Speaker 3: mini shit was coming up. You know, I had moved
Speaker 3: out of Compton. You know, I'm trying to be not
Speaker 3: so much gang invested as far as my reputation and
Speaker 3: where I'm from and and like I said, man, I
Speaker 3: ain't niggas hip hop shit, man, like beyond the hip
Speaker 3: hop and distant records like nigga. I don't really got
Speaker 3: no beef with this nigga. I don't even know him,
Speaker 3: like I know, I know nothing, Like Okay, there's some bloods,
Speaker 3: but the homie I know around here is a blood
Speaker 3: HOMEI your mind, so I guess you know, I don't
Speaker 3: he figured it out. I figured I was just like
Speaker 3: homies get involved.
Speaker 2: I was just like yeah.
Speaker 3: So, like I said, shout out to Snoop. Snoop was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you know, because it was getting it was getting treacherous.
Speaker 3: You give me niggas talking about going about moms houses
Speaker 3: and shooting up houses and you know, niggas in the
Speaker 3: streets going through neighborhoods looking for niggas and all that shit.
Speaker 3: It could have turned out way worse than it was.
Speaker 3: And you know, just niggas just had the sense to
Speaker 3: grow up. I guess you feel me. That's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: That was That was probably one of and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this, you know, me being the East Coast dude,
Speaker 1: that's probably one of the dopest moments in hip hop
Speaker 1: to see y'all come together and make it.
Speaker 2: And make it.
Speaker 3: Now we hang out, I mean you should. I'll see quick.
Speaker 3: We do shows together together, music are ready together.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: I was on their last project, him in Problem on
Speaker 3: the Rosecrans album. I'm on two songs I got actually
Speaker 3: I got a beat from him right now. They're trying
Speaker 3: to get me on a new record. So yeah, quick,
Speaker 3: quick see each other. We smoke, we heard second and none.
Speaker 3: We we we shot, we were good. We're cool as fans.
Speaker 1: And what's crazy about it is how it all started
Speaker 1: was a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2: That's it. And I just want to I just want
Speaker 2: you to say this for the young people.
Speaker 1: Do you regret not just calling him and just saying
Speaker 1: once he thought you was just in them and you
Speaker 1: just say, yo, bro.
Speaker 3: I mean we probably could have chopped it up because
Speaker 3: it was you know, if if somebody you know had
Speaker 3: that connection, if Mike T had the connection, was like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's call him up and see what's cracking or is
Speaker 3: it just some you know, because he's then said, you know,
Speaker 3: it's misunderstanding. Is what caused this ship and.
Speaker 6: So did he sorry, did he explain to you that
Speaker 6: record that you heard, the one that he's dossing everybody?
Speaker 3: I've never need explanation. I looked at it as again yip,
Speaker 3: niggas asked me about dissing and ship, and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I feel like it was hip hop. And when niggas hod,
Speaker 3: how do you feel about the song? And when he
Speaker 3: got up on stage, I said, Thigga, that ship was classic.
Speaker 3: It was good hip hop ship. It was good, you know, banter,
Speaker 3: That's what we did in here, like that hip hop.
Speaker 3: I mean listening to hip hop for a long time.
Speaker 3: Niggas went at each other.
Speaker 2: You give me.
Speaker 3: How did J Cole and King Drink Ship start? Like
Speaker 3: liggas just did see each other? What niggas do in
Speaker 3: hip hop?
Speaker 2: What do you feel about Jay Colon?
Speaker 3: The Compton's going, I'm doing.
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Speaker 6: Can we start from the beginning of the making of CMW, like,
Speaker 6: is there a group or anything before CMW?
Speaker 2: You see he got the tapes. I have more than this,
Speaker 2: but I got consistent.
Speaker 3: When we formed CMW, it was me, it was Chill,
Speaker 3: it was a DJ named Antsy, and then Slip was
Speaker 3: doing the beats. But before we even did anything, uh,
Speaker 3: we switched up DJs because Mike T, who I had met,
Speaker 3: he was like more skilled you getting me. He could transform,
Speaker 3: he could do all of that. So we went with
Speaker 3: Mike T with all the scratching, and then Chill went
Speaker 3: to jail. So that's why the first album you only
Speaker 3: hear half a Chill on the record. I had to
Speaker 3: finish all the record because he had when I think
Speaker 3: we had got through like maybe four or five songs
Speaker 3: and then so I had to finish the rest of
Speaker 3: the record. And then on the second album, which was
Speaker 3: still CMW, same situation, but he didn't get to get
Speaker 3: on any songs. So about time music to Drive By
Speaker 3: rolled around, Sony was like, we done with that ship.
Speaker 3: So after I did turn their music to drive By,
Speaker 3: everything went to m C eight.
Speaker 2: Oh, so that they made the decision the label.
Speaker 3: They was like, we're not promoted. That's yes, that's why
Speaker 3: I started going from CMW to m C eight featuring
Speaker 3: because they wanted to just call that record MC eight,
Speaker 3: and I said no because I still wanted to include.
Speaker 3: I wrote all I did. I wrote all the raps. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: for the whole group. Yeah, oh okay, so you would
Speaker 3: like the ice cube. Yeah. I wrote all the raps
Speaker 3: in the beginning, you know, not saying what they did
Speaker 3: after we parted, but all of the material up until
Speaker 3: the end. I wrote everything.
Speaker 8: It's because they their raps were making a cut or no.
Speaker 2: I just wrote.
Speaker 3: I just wrote, and I would write what we had
Speaker 3: standards back then we wrote what four verses on foot,
Speaker 3: So I just split the verses up. I would write
Speaker 3: force verses okay, and then I would go, okay, I'm right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wrap these two. A nigga, you wrapped.
Speaker 2: These too, okay, Yeah, okay, let's make some noise for
Speaker 2: that guy. Crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: When when I when I researched you, and I kept
Speaker 1: seeing that, I was like, that was that? That was crazy.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about def Wish. Then we spoke about
Speaker 1: it earlier, but let's talk about it right now. Death
Speaker 1: Wish I had I think three three parts today?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. There was two because the first death
Speaker 3: Wish wasn't originally aimed a quick, right, But once we
Speaker 3: did the second record and then music to drive by
Speaker 3: all the death wishes, it was like my my little
Speaker 3: thing to do, you get me. I wasn't gonna make
Speaker 3: up different songs or whatever, so I just kept the
Speaker 3: death wish moniker and that was used as our retaliation
Speaker 3: to quick songs when we were doing.
Speaker 2: Wow Wow Yeah, motherfucking cool now.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely definitely. I mean shit, we all in
Speaker 3: this ship man and hip hop got a bad enough
Speaker 3: rap trying to get to where we are today, you
Speaker 3: get me. They wouldn't play songs, they wouldn't play videos. Yes,
Speaker 3: it was hard, man, and so they were scared enough
Speaker 3: of us. So to have two niggas claiming gangs beefing
Speaker 3: with each other. Man, it wasn't gonna turn out good,
Speaker 3: you get me. It wasn't gonna do nothing but probably
Speaker 3: destroy our careers or somebody ended up dead. Misfortunate, you know. So,
Speaker 3: but he could have got clipped off real.
Speaker 2: I was getting.
Speaker 3: It was like I said, it was real. And at
Speaker 3: that time, you know, niggas with a little money and
Speaker 3: a little you know, representation, man, niggas was feeling like
Speaker 3: powerful man. So nigga, I'm riding around with desert eagles
Speaker 3: and ship and you know, and but it was just
Speaker 3: just how the gag ship on top of that. You know,
Speaker 3: you are, you beefing with a nigga in the street
Speaker 3: over some rap shit, but then you don't know how
Speaker 3: the outside motherfucker is gonna take that. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: other blood niggas now like nigga fuck.
Speaker 2: So ship.
Speaker 3: It was spread and man, like I said, once he
Speaker 3: got to that point where niggas got to talking about
Speaker 3: houses and ship and we know where people stay and
Speaker 3: all of that, it happened. Like I said, fortunately, Snoop
Speaker 3: was you know there to just maybe you niggas need
Speaker 3: to sit down and ship and see what's happening. Fifty
Speaker 3: seven for Deserty three fifty seven.
Speaker 2: I'ma be honest that ship.
Speaker 1: I watched it, you know, washed you in quick beef.
Speaker 1: I knew y'all wasn't playing like there's nothing about any.
Speaker 3: It was my we could have minus the hip hop
Speaker 3: because like I said, you still had the fact that
Speaker 3: I was claiming cripp and he was claiming blood.
Speaker 2: That was enough and both from Compton. Yeah, that that
Speaker 2: was that was like, it's not like it's the biggest
Speaker 2: town in the world.
Speaker 3: That was just the beef, just period. When you banged
Speaker 3: you was a cripple blood and you get the repercussions
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: You said earlier your neighborhoods didn't even have beef. It
Speaker 1: wasn't really, but then.
Speaker 2: It had beef.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because I know a lot of Treetops
Speaker 3: right now cool as a motherfucker, and that's the blood. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of Treetops cool. My nigga, rest in peace.
Speaker 3: Slim four hundred was cool as a fan. Fucked with
Speaker 3: a lot of my people from the neighborhood. My nigga
Speaker 3: Kidaro right now with his podcast from Treetop YG A
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of niggas is cool. You get me,
Speaker 3: You got to get Yeah, he's from Treetop and that's Quick.
Speaker 3: That's where Quick is from. That's yeah, that's where Slim
Speaker 3: four hundred was from. A lot of them.
Speaker 2: So rest in peace, Slim for hundred. Like I said,
Speaker 2: we learned to grow up.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm cool with a lot of motherfuckers now,
Speaker 3: and it ain't even about where you're from or what
Speaker 3: color you whatever, My older nigga nowere you from really
Speaker 3: respect if you respect me, I can respect you, and
Speaker 3: I don't care what rag you want to put in
Speaker 3: your pocket?
Speaker 2: Or do you talk to younger guys? Do you have
Speaker 2: a chance to go? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a son that's nineteen, you know, play football. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've read that somewhere that you won't even take a show.
Speaker 1: Let's get you back to.
Speaker 2: He mentioned that we had him on followhood and he
Speaker 2: talked about I.
Speaker 3: Started drink, I started doing the fucking uh coaching football.
Speaker 3: You know, my son five years old. Give him another interest,
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't want him to. You know a
Speaker 3: lot of our kids want to want a wrap on
Speaker 3: to produce and that ship. I didn't want him to
Speaker 3: get into that. So I wanted to give him another
Speaker 3: opportunity to find his own lane. So I started coaching football,
Speaker 3: you know, to give him something else that we could
Speaker 3: do together. And he's in college right now.
Speaker 1: He watched Menus because I heard that you had a show.
Speaker 1: I heard you had a show and it was it
Speaker 1: was the championship game or something like that.
Speaker 3: Right I was in Europe and I flew all the
Speaker 3: way back just to be at the championship game. My
Speaker 3: nigga can that's hard. Ship I turned down, turned down
Speaker 3: to be in the Alright video because my son had
Speaker 3: a game and I couldn't and Kendrick called me all night,
Speaker 3: he called me the next morning and I couldn't. I
Speaker 3: couldn't get away from the game. So I missed the
Speaker 3: opportunity because we had just did Mad City and that
Speaker 3: came out, and then on the next project. He was
Speaker 3: on the next project and uh, the video where I
Speaker 3: think Terry Crews is in it, and they would he
Speaker 3: wanted me to be in that video and I.
Speaker 2: Gonna play your life story killed that.
Speaker 3: That's definitely official.
Speaker 6: How did that homage feel? The Mad City that he
Speaker 6: paid to you? And then the record?
Speaker 2: I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, they could have fucked with anybody
Speaker 3: with a lot of niggas from Compton rap you give me.
Speaker 6: And it was creative the way it wasn't just like
Speaker 6: a straight taking the record and then having you like
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 2: It came in.
Speaker 3: Actually, my my so's uh you know sister, she knew
Speaker 3: a bunch of them and so she actually told her mom, Hey,
Speaker 3: this guy Kendrick wants to do it. So I honestly
Speaker 3: I didn't even know.
Speaker 2: Him at the time. No, Wow, he didn't even know
Speaker 2: he was aftermath. No, he was.
Speaker 3: He had put out the Section eighty album.
Speaker 2: He was touring with at the time, was on Strange Music.
Speaker 3: She called me and was like, this caten you. She said,
Speaker 3: this cat named Kendrick wants to get you on a song.
Speaker 3: And I said, oh. She was like Kendrick, you know,
Speaker 3: it's young cat whatever, and I said, yeah, okay, So
Speaker 3: I gave her. I told her to give him my number,
Speaker 3: and I didn't think nothing about it. Two weeks later
Speaker 3: he called me and he said, hey, I'm at the
Speaker 3: studio today, can you come through? And that's when we
Speaker 3: went to the spot in Carson Was that right the
Speaker 3: city now? It was in Carson City around Compton House
Speaker 3: was the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We went to the house over there and uh, he
Speaker 3: came outside, we went in. He told me the concept
Speaker 3: of the record. Uh so he told me, you know,
Speaker 3: he told me what he wanted me to do on
Speaker 3: the intro and all of that shit, and uh then
Speaker 3: he played me to beat. When I heard the beat,
Speaker 3: I was all, this motherfucker gonna be There was that
Speaker 3: bird in the hand and I was like, oh man,
Speaker 3: it was hard.
Speaker 2: So he is really like.
Speaker 3: Not wondering, nigga, I'm gonna send you the beat and
Speaker 3: then you come up with it, because that's something about me.
Speaker 3: If a nigga want to get me on the song,
Speaker 3: I want to know what he want to talk about.
Speaker 3: I asked a nigg in a minute, what's the concept? Okay,
Speaker 3: what we're talking about? I don't want to get on
Speaker 3: the song and you talking about bitches and shit and
Speaker 3: I'm talking about driving around a nigga blockers and shit.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of niggas do that today.
Speaker 3: Nigga be like, yeah, I want to get you on
Speaker 3: the song. And I'd be like, okay, cool, what we're
Speaker 3: talking about. The nigga be like, oh, just do what
Speaker 3: you do? Like, nigga, what is that?
Speaker 2: I can do a thousand things, Nigga, what the fuck
Speaker 2: you want me to do all this? Motherfucker?
Speaker 3: So, but he told straight up, I want you to
Speaker 3: say this. I want you to talk about a lundra.
Speaker 3: I want you to do this, blah blah blah right
Speaker 3: here at this part, can you do this? And we're
Speaker 3: gonna break down the intro. I want you to just create.
Speaker 3: So he knew it all. I came that motherfuck like
Speaker 3: damn not. So many people do that. No, No, a lot,
Speaker 3: not not many at all. A lot of niggas just
Speaker 3: go like, I'm.
Speaker 2: A singer, director, student of the game. You can tell
Speaker 2: ken exactly.
Speaker 3: So he sat there listened to my verse and then
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, cool. He like, oh, can you do
Speaker 3: this part over? I was like, yeah, fuck it cool.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm You're gonna walk out the booth and
Speaker 3: he like, okay, now can you do this? And can
Speaker 3: you do that? I'm like this, mother, I'm like, yeah, directing.
Speaker 3: But he was cool as fuck, So I didn't mind
Speaker 3: it came out the way it came out. It was
Speaker 3: tight as.
Speaker 2: Holy.
Speaker 3: That sounds like that says, yeah, he's very mother like nigga. No,
Speaker 3: I know what I want, Like I know the direction
Speaker 3: of my ship track with Outlaws, the Outlaws, when you
Speaker 3: do that track with the Outlaws, when when we do that?
Speaker 3: Was you in the studio with with Fatal? I try
Speaker 3: to go to in the studio with Fatal. That's a
Speaker 3: piece of thing. Definitely. H Some more cats, like certain
Speaker 3: niggas I fuck with, I give them that that personal like,
Speaker 3: don't send me the track if you want to go
Speaker 3: in the studio. We can get in the studio. I
Speaker 3: try to give that to niggas. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying without niggas. But you know, I'm a true hip
Speaker 3: hop and him C is first ship relationship with Jay Prince,
Speaker 3: I don't really have one. I'm really cool with Scarface.
Speaker 3: I talked to Face like ship at least once a month.
Speaker 3: So so when you went to the gangs to wrap something,
Speaker 3: it was through Face. Uh actually that was through the
Speaker 3: through the lady okay, okay, printing them called the labels
Speaker 3: and certain artists they want to come, and that's how
Speaker 3: we got there. Some historic moments and ship in hip
Speaker 3: hop I've been able to be a part of. And
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, from what I've been through
Speaker 3: with all the beefing and the other ship whatever, like
Speaker 3: the gang shit affiliated and claiming the neighborhood and all
Speaker 3: that we had to go through, it's what got us
Speaker 3: to this point today. So I don't change nothing, man,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't change.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask Wu Tang comes out MC eight,
Speaker 1: you know, Woo Tang fucking Wu Tang was my peoples and.
Speaker 2: Watch this video. I was like, how did you have
Speaker 2: affiliation with Woo Tang.
Speaker 3: I'm looking like that was through Old Dirty and Meth
Speaker 3: worked with Old Dirty. Yeah, yes, put us on Old
Speaker 3: Dirty in math they were shooting the video, they.
Speaker 2: Was getting ready to shoot. Its involved. It might have been,
Speaker 2: might have been. How did you know that?
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: About I just felt it. I have no anxiety, you know.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even know them at this point.
Speaker 2: And they're not blown up. They're not blown up. You
Speaker 2: was in?
Speaker 3: What video? Is it? Can I be also simple?
Speaker 2: Wow? That's early yeah.
Speaker 3: Island. Yeah, I'm in the car. I'm standing out in
Speaker 3: front of the little ship with meth and and then
Speaker 3: I'm in the car with him at the end of
Speaker 3: the video.
Speaker 2: Affiliated that's dust. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was a fucking I was off a minute. I
Speaker 3: was off a minute once for the girl. I just
Speaker 3: did minute and just dropped music to drive by and
Speaker 3: they called me up and they was like, man, can
Speaker 3: you come to New York and be in Woo Tang video?
Speaker 3: And I was like, Wou Tang? And I think they
Speaker 3: send me their record And I was like this motherfucker hard,
Speaker 3: like a motherfucker horror. I jumped on the plane and
Speaker 3: went straight to stat We was hanging out, chilling, ray
Speaker 3: Kwan Ghost.
Speaker 2: It was all love.
Speaker 3: So I was out there for a few hours. Niggas
Speaker 3: wasn't doing them, but standing around getting high, just like
Speaker 3: that's it, man, it was there.
Speaker 2: That was love. You was not uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: And then after that I got real cool with Old Dirty.
Speaker 3: So that's how I jumped on the song with him
Speaker 3: and you did it. Yeah, I did Tommy Shimmy remix
Speaker 3: with him. Yeah, recipes Old Dirty all day.
Speaker 2: This shot is for Gangster motherfucking Chronicles. All salute being here.
Speaker 2: If I don't mind, if we have to go to
Speaker 2: wherever y'all film at. We need to support other podcasts.
Speaker 2: We love y'all.
Speaker 1: We respect y'all homeown. Let me give you a cut
Speaker 1: me off, I'll see you. You know I'm professional. I
Speaker 1: understand what's going on here. We've been trying to get
Speaker 1: your your flowers.
Speaker 2: We've been telling you for a long like, I really
Speaker 2: really love.
Speaker 1: Gangst the Chronicles, like when what y'all doing and how
Speaker 1: y'all highlighting y'all culture?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I love it. I love it. I
Speaker 2: did like I did, like.
Speaker 17: The Gang Investigator. I did like sorry, oh no, there's
Speaker 17: there's a move like so, but I didn't know he
Speaker 17: I didn't know he was he was.
Speaker 2: He was a gangly because I followed he.
Speaker 3: Was like a dude who went to went to neighborhood,
Speaker 3: you know them?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: And I'm not mad at that ship because I thought
Speaker 5: to bring all the motherfuckers on, So that means I'm
Speaker 5: a smart motherfucker. So I would never dish them, man,
Speaker 5: because I really feel like that at one time, we
Speaker 5: could have had some really great man, we was doing
Speaker 5: some ship, right.
Speaker 2: You had the gang members and the gang analyst.
Speaker 5: Exactly what happened was though, Man, sometimes some ship just
Speaker 5: ain't meant to be. Some people can't help power. Nor
Speaker 5: I respect that some people can't help man. So you
Speaker 5: said it just now.
Speaker 2: I actually thought he was like an expert, like you
Speaker 2: know how Steve on Jerry Springer to be. He was
Speaker 2: just the person that know what.
Speaker 5: Steve thought he was. You know what's happening though? Right now, Man,
Speaker 5: I had a brother hit me the other day. Man
Speaker 5: shout out to my boy down in the rag right here,
Speaker 5: hit me, and he was telling me some ship about him,
Speaker 5: right what's happening. There was a lot of videos that's
Speaker 5: coming out right now. A lot of the guys catching
Speaker 5: cases and ship like that. Man.
Speaker 2: So it's a whole bunch of little messy ship.
Speaker 5: Going on, man to where it's like, I'm glad I'm
Speaker 5: not involved now, you feel what I'm saying everything, Like,
Speaker 5: like I said, I'm a real spiritual person, man, and
Speaker 5: I think God sometimes man determines our destiny. Certain ship
Speaker 5: might happen at that time you might be tripping, but
Speaker 5: then something else that happened you like, damn, it's just.
Speaker 2: Like me and eight. We had our biggest year last year.
Speaker 5: Man. You know a lot of people don't understand what podcasting.
Speaker 5: You make your bread with the audio, man, that's right up.
Speaker 5: You make some good bread with the audio, right.
Speaker 2: Talk talk that talk, And.
Speaker 5: We did something indeed, nineteen millions that like it was
Speaker 5: like a crazy amount of downloads last year. And I said, damn,
Speaker 5: we funked around and got bigger though. Man, that's the
Speaker 5: really you feel what I'm saying. So you have to
Speaker 5: always keep scaling, man, and keep reinventing this ship.
Speaker 2: Because because that's the thing. This podcast Yeah gotta.
Speaker 16: Be to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you drink that, you understand the bottle was I
Speaker 2: told him drink everything. We got.
Speaker 1: The right car, man we got and we go figure out, right,
Speaker 1: let's killer Holiday kill Man.
Speaker 2: You know about that movie. Come on, I'm home point.
Speaker 3: Man, you'll really up. You're doing your researches. I told
Speaker 3: you you gotta have that man.
Speaker 2: That was we just got drunk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, dig up some ship that shows that
Speaker 3: ship up to be like, you know what about that ship?
Speaker 2: I know about Killer Holiday. No holiday.
Speaker 5: Ain't to kill a holiday, all right, make sure he
Speaker 5: don't get shy because he'll look at you drink your ship.
Speaker 2: That's right. You always say where the keys? All the
Speaker 2: keys or I took just so you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to, like you smell them and make sure I'm good.
Speaker 2: I know he good. You're passing the keys now, right. Definitely.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I gotta.
Speaker 5: Y'all because I'm gonna tell y'all if y'all would have
Speaker 5: had to drink. Champs Networks started.
Speaker 2: At that time. We just signed what y'all, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. I'm gonna be honest with you
Speaker 2: because I know this. I was. I'm the nigga watching
Speaker 2: watching James the Chronicles from the beginning, and Yasha was
Speaker 2: so good I'm being honest. Let me just be honest
Speaker 2: because it's me. You was on d MS together.
Speaker 1: Talking Yasha was so good, and when y'all finally got
Speaker 1: it together, I didn't even want to play with y'all.
Speaker 1: I was like, because I knew be in here offend
Speaker 1: and having together like me and him like three days ago,
Speaker 1: got it together, Like this is how we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would have had it together a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You would not have been to black effect. By the way,
Speaker 1: who is my man, It's my brother, Charlot Magne.
Speaker 2: But y'all would have been with us because I was
Speaker 2: watching and I was like, this is crazy, y'all.
Speaker 1: Just and by the way, I knew this for years
Speaker 1: that California artists don't even have to promote to the world.
Speaker 2: All you have to promote to is Calnnia. Just this
Speaker 2: is what podcasts the algorithms has shown you don't even
Speaker 2: need to do like Texas artists wherever you're at out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it takes another market that self sufficient. The world promote
Speaker 2: to Texas talk about boots, talk about holding fucking a
Speaker 2: K's and they're looking at the McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Don't do that, guys, California. Let me just tell you,
Speaker 1: study algorithms.
Speaker 2: California does not have to perform to promote to anybody
Speaker 2: else but California. I'm telling you, the world is already
Speaker 2: gravitating to California. So all you gotta do is just
Speaker 2: talk to your people. And it's beautiful that me and
Speaker 2: if That's we only talked to our audience. Come on,
Speaker 2: but his audience got to realize he's born. He's born,
Speaker 2: and that's when raised in Miami. We gave down to
Speaker 2: our audience. We don't care like if if you're a
Speaker 2: young nigga and you want to listen to us, we
Speaker 2: will peg you. We will give a.
Speaker 15: Don't give an if you man, But you understand what
Speaker 15: I'm saying. That was said that was that was if
Speaker 15: you would have said Hamburgers, you would have taken I
Speaker 15: got this last little bit. What I'm saying is care
Speaker 15: to your people like you. You don't have to go
Speaker 15: outside your audience. I told us the way Korn damn
Speaker 15: there eight years ago.
Speaker 1: When we started it, Ray Kor was dropping an album
Speaker 1: and where at we'red a part of Jersey's. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say it because me and him might meet
Speaker 1: up there tomorrow. So let me not say it, but
Speaker 1: I say, yo, bro, next time you drop an album,
Speaker 1: drop your album on a podcast.
Speaker 2: And he was like what and I was like, drop it.
Speaker 1: Make ray Quoran podcast and you already your audience is
Speaker 1: already built. Drop your your album right on your podcast.
Speaker 5: M M.
Speaker 1: Don't make it available because you know this is different
Speaker 1: between podcasts. When you choose podcasts, you have to download
Speaker 1: the app mm hmm. You have to start following that people.
Speaker 1: That means that these people that really listen to you
Speaker 1: are really with you, fuck with them back. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's where I want hip hop to kind of go,
Speaker 1: like it's like against the chronicles. The person listening to
Speaker 1: yall ship it's because.
Speaker 2: They fuck with y'all. Motherfuckers though listen. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm one of them, niggas, Like I'm one of them.
Speaker 2: I wanted to like, I met you know at the
Speaker 2: time I met you long time you remember, remember now,
Speaker 2: I remember because you I was high too, But it
Speaker 2: was Johnny Blaze video Bat Joe in New York and
Speaker 2: I came with twenty five niggas are the worst people
Speaker 2: that could be around me because that was a hard
Speaker 2: back then. I heard the man. Listen, let me tell you.
Speaker 2: Let me why I knew. Let me tell you why
Speaker 2: I knew. He was was just as foul as me.
Speaker 1: Man, Hey, look what's up. I'm like, yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. We're from the video on Brooklyn. I'm like
Speaker 1: about to walk around the corner.
Speaker 2: But I know I got to town.
Speaker 18: They ain't walked around the corner with me, I said, because,
Speaker 18: by the way, any other West.
Speaker 2: Coast niggas were like, go ahead, nigga, like, you're gonna
Speaker 2: walk around the corner Brooklyn. That's real ship, ain't, man?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? I don't.
Speaker 3: I've never been. I've never been like we in the hood.
Speaker 3: We in the hood, like you give me saying and
Speaker 3: then they ain't gonna let you walk by yourself. Nigga
Speaker 3: with the ship, let's go.
Speaker 2: Had twenty five people would be married.
Speaker 3: Ship and affiliation did too. Nigh. I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: bro man, you know who told me about you?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: Dog Jill's about to do out there, but only Doggy diamonds.
Speaker 2: That's why I got shout to do. He told one time.
Speaker 5: He said, Man, this nigga poppy man he had around,
Speaker 5: you know, nothing to be saying too much.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He's just like he tried
Speaker 2: trying to throw.
Speaker 3: He was trying to throw a game, thinking oselves little
Speaker 3: ship Poppy does go.
Speaker 1: I know I said it earlier, but God is a
Speaker 1: funny nigga, because I'm trying to get dressed today like that.
Speaker 2: Everything every day in my closet was blue. Like he
Speaker 2: told you. He just when we started trying to be
Speaker 2: hard not to come it off. I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to cook.
Speaker 3: By the way, it was hard blue. It was like
Speaker 3: you would have been like this to me, and I
Speaker 3: was like, this is this is not I did the
Speaker 3: same ship. When I look at I'm like, I got
Speaker 3: some ship that's like a crew rag and ship. And
Speaker 3: I was like, I ain't gonna do them like that, you.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 6: Let me say something real quick, the same piggybacking off
Speaker 6: of the humbleness. I went to this conference in tom Springs.
Speaker 6: It was like it was a weird confer I don't
Speaker 6: remember the name of the conference. They had like a
Speaker 6: gossip part of it, and then it turned to an
Speaker 6: independent gangster.
Speaker 2: The radio conference today.
Speaker 6: You remember, I think I know for sure I saw
Speaker 6: you who your tribe was there, like it was like
Speaker 6: I was who you try?
Speaker 2: It was dope.
Speaker 6: But one thing I remember of people, because it's at
Speaker 6: the same time that like the back I don't call
Speaker 6: it backpack round, but that's what we called the backpack.
Speaker 2: Rapp was conscious and the rapper was coming up right,
Speaker 2: and I was.
Speaker 6: I was doing a lot of promo stuff for a
Speaker 6: lot of labels, and I worked like rockets and all
Speaker 6: these people, and I remember I'm at this conference and
Speaker 6: I mean the hardest artist that I mean, these are
Speaker 6: the gangsters of the gangster, the most humble artist that
Speaker 6: I ever met. Then I mean the most conscious of
Speaker 6: the conscious working the label stuff. They're the biggest asshole.
Speaker 6: They're trying to be hardcore and I'm like, yo, what
Speaker 6: the fuck? Like it just it made me realize it
Speaker 6: because they think they have to be. It made me
Speaker 6: realize that because every time when I ran into Yeah,
Speaker 6: I've always known. I've heard stories, real realized dudes was
Speaker 6: tried yeah.
Speaker 2: And so so it's just I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: it's the era that created that type of artist or
Speaker 2: what happened, but it's just something happened.
Speaker 6: There was a disconnect where these conscious artists felt inclined
Speaker 6: to try to be like a hardcore street person. They
Speaker 6: wasn't really that. And then you had the people who
Speaker 6: lived it, and really, you know, was about that actually
Speaker 6: acting like conscious artists when you met them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, we.
Speaker 3: When you grew up in a neighborhood, man, you get
Speaker 3: to I guess when you get to put yourself in
Speaker 3: different predicaments that you wouldn't be in, and becoming hip
Speaker 3: hop and really embracing that takes you to different places.
Speaker 3: People already think we fucking assholes, and we have, so
Speaker 3: we like to show people that we intelligent, even though
Speaker 3: we had to grow up hard and banging and did
Speaker 3: all that shit. I'm gonna show you I'm an intelligent motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Gonna walk up in here and just get to tearing
Speaker 3: up shit because that's what you think I should do.
Speaker 3: You feel me Now, I'm gonna come here, sit down
Speaker 3: and talk to you like a motherfucking college graduate and
Speaker 3: civilized because I still got street knowledge, but I've still
Speaker 3: been brought up to be respectful. Like I said, respect man.
Speaker 3: And once once you give a nigger respect, man, they
Speaker 3: know how to They know how to deal with that.
Speaker 3: So when you grow up like that. Man, we try
Speaker 3: to show people like, now, I'm not the asshole that
Speaker 3: you think. I am right, I'm not the I'm not
Speaker 3: what you see on TV.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 3: You see the image of us on TV, and it's
Speaker 3: just stick them up killing my mother.
Speaker 2: You kill a.
Speaker 3: Motherfucker for a fucking was still in your cupcake and ship.
Speaker 3: That's how they make us on TV. You know mean,
Speaker 3: But it's a lot of intelligent motherfuckers from the neighborhood.
Speaker 8: I asked you a question earlier about what age was
Speaker 8: your son when he first watched minutes.
Speaker 2: I just want to know what age was he and
Speaker 2: what did he say? What was his reaction? Son had
Speaker 2: to be just as scared as you was.
Speaker 3: My son, My son, really hold was he when I
Speaker 3: probably was probably about seven or eight?
Speaker 2: Seven or eight? He was gonna say? I didn't I didn't.
Speaker 2: That must have been different. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't want to restrict him from nothing.
Speaker 16: You get me.
Speaker 3: You're gonna see Ship and it's gonna come to time
Speaker 3: where you're gonna have to make a decision that's gonna
Speaker 3: be the right decision. You can't go off of what
Speaker 3: you saw me do. Yeah, you see what I did? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I did. Yep, yep. You haven't been to
Speaker 3: the hood. You see that, you see the niggas associated
Speaker 3: with all that. But you have a different I didn't
Speaker 3: have different. I didn't have an option. I grew up there.
Speaker 3: You ain't there. You don't have to follow that ship,
Speaker 3: and then that's all you know.
Speaker 8: So yeah, but he sees that movie now right when
Speaker 8: he was set seven, and he might not have known it,
Speaker 8: but when as he gets older he's.
Speaker 3: Watching, he watching now, he probably would think, oh, that
Speaker 3: was some cool ship you did, not bigger than cool ship,
Speaker 3: because I was like, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: he's just now coming into that, you know, because he
Speaker 3: used to think it was weird when people would walk
Speaker 3: up to me and be man, and he'd be like,
Speaker 3: why why why do they want your picture?
Speaker 5: Why they want your autograph? And I don't know if
Speaker 5: I had to realize it though, like how big you
Speaker 5: are with the I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: You gotta take the flowers and you know what, you
Speaker 2: gotta take them for real?
Speaker 3: Because that movie has to be, if not the greatest
Speaker 3: hip hop street.
Speaker 19: Movie of all time right by boys in the hood
Speaker 19: to me the number one, and you gotta take that.
Speaker 19: Let me make let me make yours think it may
Speaker 19: make more and more sense. You make sense, Let me
Speaker 19: make it more sense. Seriously, that movie is the reason
Speaker 19: why East Coast.
Speaker 2: Is banging right now. Like you can go to a
Speaker 2: neighborhood and see a neighborhood full of crepts.
Speaker 3: In New York seen it all on society though, come on,
Speaker 3: I can't understand that. I feel like that's I did
Speaker 3: never because I was coming to New.
Speaker 2: Hold hold on, we're gonna be quiet. You need to
Speaker 2: need to break this down.
Speaker 1: He is you know, I'm saying right for me and
Speaker 1: my inner like when I tell somebody breaking down.
Speaker 3: To me, like what made that and what made it
Speaker 3: so influential? But hold on, So the gangs, the gang
Speaker 3: culture in this yard, why how did that become?
Speaker 6: Because yeah, honestly, you don't think it was the prison
Speaker 6: system as well, like I think the prison system is.
Speaker 3: You gotta see because I was back in the day
Speaker 3: is when it wasn't because you know, I was traveling
Speaker 3: to New York in the late eighties and the early man.
Speaker 2: Guess what, But I was like got ship, and then
Speaker 2: they follow.
Speaker 1: You making those movies. He understands it's true. It might
Speaker 1: be just that simple. But I don't think it's just
Speaker 1: the movie though.
Speaker 2: I think the prison, I think it's the music. I
Speaker 2: think it's the movies. I think there's definitely influence. I
Speaker 2: sure I do mean that. But what I'm saying is, Nigga,
Speaker 2: you a legend, this nigga that hands down love you
Speaker 2: hands down, and I can't stand on.
Speaker 1: I used to love this when the persons, and I
Speaker 1: heard you say this in the interviews. Person coming to
Speaker 1: me like you got me through my bid and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'll be like yeah. But then I feel
Speaker 1: like this nigga think I owe him.
Speaker 2: Looking I got a letter for you from the pendas.
Speaker 1: I get hard fact like I'm in the airport, fucking
Speaker 1: Barber's bar Nigga comeing to me, Yo, nigga, you got
Speaker 1: me through my bed.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's real ship though, and I can't. I
Speaker 2: can't let this, nigga.
Speaker 3: It means a lot of Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I get that you
Speaker 2: get it way more than me. You nigga, I listened
Speaker 2: to your ship.
Speaker 1: Everyone here try to quit walk at one point, and
Speaker 1: none of us got it right. I, uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: get that a lot.
Speaker 3: Like Nigga you Nigga, you had us on one Nigga
Speaker 3: niggat and did plenty of dirt behind you, and Nigga,
Speaker 3: you gotten me through being locked up nigga, and I
Speaker 3: used to listen to your ship, So I get that
Speaker 3: a lot. You had East coast niggas wanting to be
Speaker 3: West coast. My thing is that was my that was
Speaker 3: my one them you already just.
Speaker 2: My thing was.
Speaker 3: That's what I signed up to do, though, like I
Speaker 3: signed up to connect with niggas who was going through
Speaker 3: that type of ship. Nigga, you got arrested. I got
Speaker 3: arrested too. Nigga, you got pulled over for a strap.
Speaker 4: I did too.
Speaker 3: So that's what I made music for. That's why I
Speaker 3: never really niggas be like, well, why you you, why
Speaker 3: you even get your props or why you don't think Nigga,
Speaker 3: I said, I signed up for this ship.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I didn't signed up to be a Ken drake or
Speaker 3: drake or I signed up to connect with niggas that
Speaker 3: was doing what I was doing. Those are the niggas
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna be able to connect with and how
Speaker 3: niggas is gonna feel connection to the music I'm making
Speaker 3: is by letting the nigga know. Oh, I know you struggling, nigga.
Speaker 3: I'm struggling too, right, Oh, nigga, I know you had
Speaker 3: to sell dope. I did too. Come on, you got
Speaker 3: pulled over and had to heat under the seat, nigga.
Speaker 3: I'm just went to jail yesterday for that. And my mama,
Speaker 3: a single mama at home with three kids and struggling
Speaker 3: and shit like that. I'm just like you, niggas. Sold
Speaker 3: as I started making music, that was the connection for me.
Speaker 3: You give me. It's niggas in the projects in Brooklyn,
Speaker 3: and it's niggas in Philly, it's niggas in Texas, it's
Speaker 3: niggas in Chicago.
Speaker 2: They all live.
Speaker 3: They might not be claiming crip and banging, but I
Speaker 3: bet you some of them niggas is doing double ups
Speaker 3: and serving. I bet you some of them niggas is
Speaker 3: robbing and shit and trying to get ahead. And a
Speaker 3: lot of them niggas is going through poverty and shit.
Speaker 3: So that's what I made music for, and.
Speaker 6: That you're that foundation that there is a Kendrick to
Speaker 6: day because you're part of that foundation that helps a Kendrick.
Speaker 3: I try to include myself in the foundation of hip.
Speaker 3: You gave me a n W A easy c m W.
Speaker 3: They looking around.
Speaker 14: I'm still no, no, no in this case, yes because
Speaker 14: like I hear you, but look at Old said to
Speaker 14: because you know what you was. This is day one
Speaker 14: and I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know how far you went back with
Speaker 3: Compton hip hop and once I started, because you don't know,
Speaker 3: He's like, look, you're gonna call you got to research.
Speaker 2: I'm researching that. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate my man. I appreciate my I appreciate the
Speaker 3: niggas before me.
Speaker 2: Do you feel me.
Speaker 3: We don't get a lot of that today, but I
Speaker 3: appreciate the niggas who was picking up the mike.
Speaker 2: But Kendrick did that to you. He appreciated.
Speaker 3: You get a few who want to pay back homage.
Speaker 3: I always basically, uh bigged up the niggas who came.
Speaker 3: I never dissed the nigga or disrespected whether it was
Speaker 3: Grand Master Flash or whether it was the La Dream
Speaker 3: Team or Egyptian Lover. Uh. They might have not did the.
Speaker 2: Music that right, but they lad a foundation the niggas
Speaker 2: was in and I was.
Speaker 3: Listening to all that ship. So you gotta respect that.
Speaker 3: I just come from that, and that's what I'm appreciating for.
Speaker 2: You know, feel me.
Speaker 3: That's such your flowers, bro, you fucking did an amazing
Speaker 3: movie that should have been award winning.
Speaker 2: Your rowers, dope, your music.
Speaker 3: You didn't come and grab on any old West Coast
Speaker 3: as far as like West coast, what they was doing
Speaker 3: you kind of made. I tried to put my own.
Speaker 3: I didn't do the traditional dre and you know the parliaments.
Speaker 1: And how hard was that? Let me ask you, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: how hard was that? Because the homies said that earlier.
Speaker 1: He was like, he's the only person that's not affiliated, Drake.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't come up under the n w A ladder.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, it was. I didn't realize that it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I can't helping you out.
Speaker 3: No, you sat up, and I sat up and wrote,
Speaker 3: and then uh I hooked up with DJ Slip. Dj
Speaker 3: Slip was a part of the l A Sound Control
Speaker 3: and they basically used to provide all the music for
Speaker 3: all the concerts that was going on at the time.
Speaker 3: So when all the early East Coast niggas was coming
Speaker 3: over here, Rocky Cam and Run DMC and all them
Speaker 3: slipping and provided the sounds for the concert.
Speaker 2: So that's checking in. He was the music. He was
Speaker 2: he he was. He was a you know, let's not
Speaker 2: checking in at all.
Speaker 5: The things, a.
Speaker 2: Producer and check checked.
Speaker 5: Check in.
Speaker 3: I'll say so we Slip was a I call him
Speaker 3: a digging in the crates producer. He didn't go with
Speaker 3: what was popular or what niggas was doing. Slip wer
Speaker 3: go dig in the crates and find some ship some
Speaker 3: overseas and take two seconds of the ship, shop that
Speaker 3: ship up and do this, and do that, and st
Speaker 3: toy ove at this and next thing you know, we
Speaker 3: got a whole fucking song off of some ship. He
Speaker 3: was very creative. That's why he said it was the
Speaker 3: greatest ever. I just want you to know that I
Speaker 3: found that.
Speaker 2: You did that.
Speaker 3: You found that. Yeah, that was old. That was Tyrone
Speaker 3: Davis something some of my moms used to listen to. Uh,
Speaker 3: the old folks used to play Bobby Blue Bland and
Speaker 3: all that old type of ship. So that's why I
Speaker 3: got that old sound.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: I wanted to stick with that ship, so I didn't
Speaker 3: want to. I didn't. I didn't want to be traditional,
Speaker 3: you get me. And then Slip was the type of
Speaker 3: nigga if you bought him something that niggas already sampled,
Speaker 3: he'd be like, now, we're not using that because a
Speaker 3: lot of the niggas we was doing a lot of
Speaker 3: that back then too. We was all used in the
Speaker 3: same same But Slip would be like, nah, we're gonna
Speaker 3: create use a lot of break beats, a lot of
Speaker 3: break and piece the president and then he'll he'll come
Speaker 3: half with within piece of pressure beats. That's why we
Speaker 3: were able to not follow that that doctor Dre. You
Speaker 3: know that path of did you want to beat? Did
Speaker 3: you want to beat?
Speaker 2: From Dre?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Did you?
Speaker 3: Would you have liked to?
Speaker 2: I never?
Speaker 3: No, I was satisfied with Slip.
Speaker 5: One thing you got to understand, man, is that above
Speaker 5: the law, Drake got a lot of ship law. I
Speaker 5: love not saying that Drake.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't influences.
Speaker 14: Really just like little nephews and ship like that lost
Speaker 14: like living like Hustles to five my album album come.
Speaker 1: On, Come on, and then we're gonna fight again. And
Speaker 1: that's another thing. Drake got snooping them. That ship is
Speaker 1: on and they gonna need to know the bott Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: You got you never get I got the actually got
Speaker 2: I actually got four.
Speaker 3: Mic yeah for me comes strapped.
Speaker 2: I got four. Mike probably should have got four and
Speaker 2: a half. I'm one the four and a half. Yeah
Speaker 2: two about that because.
Speaker 3: I had I should have had five because I was.
Speaker 4: Sh I was.
Speaker 3: I was the first album to ever get double Stick
Speaker 3: rated it.
Speaker 2: I would have gave it the five.
Speaker 3: I was double Stick.
Speaker 2: If I would rated yours, I would have gave it
Speaker 2: a five. You can do whatever you would.
Speaker 3: Of all of the years were getting them threes in
Speaker 3: three and a half, you get that four, Nigga.
Speaker 2: I was satisfied.
Speaker 3: I'm not figga.
Speaker 6: You see that three and a half even like listen,
Speaker 6: but who would have known all you to just cause
Speaker 6: you know he would.
Speaker 2: Not too many niggas get two covers.
Speaker 5: Let's just establish that shot they gave me to, like bro,
Speaker 5: like you really did the start face scar facing spine.
Speaker 2: Nigga covering he and now against the chronicles.
Speaker 1: If you're a West Coast artist and you on against
Speaker 1: the chronicles, that's somewhat of a source cover.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, come on down that you know
Speaker 2: we caught it too, that we got it. We got
Speaker 2: nigga on one. Come let me just say this.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this another people, because you're West
Speaker 1: Coast guy, y'all think just give me two seconds, listen
Speaker 1: two and a half, go for it, all right.
Speaker 13: But but.
Speaker 1: In the past couple of years, if I wanted to
Speaker 1: understand anything West Coast, I tune into y'all podcasts.
Speaker 2: Love I'll watch y'all.
Speaker 1: I did not know that the guy was not I
Speaker 1: thought he was a gad feature. But the fact is,
Speaker 1: but I followed the guy.
Speaker 2: Because l A gang life is like coming like crazy
Speaker 2: to me, right, because it's it's real. It's the most thing.
Speaker 10: After hip hop post influence you with them. But I
Speaker 10: watched you guys, and watch what you did.
Speaker 1: Watch that you guys got our Heart radio behind you
Speaker 1: at Black Effect big up to Charlomagne, and it would
Speaker 1: be remorse for us not to big y'all up. Not
Speaker 1: not just not just what you guys did prior to that,
Speaker 1: but what you guys are doing right now, because you
Speaker 1: guys are you guys are legends.
Speaker 2: Then, but you guys are legends now.
Speaker 1: If you want to, if you want to be from
Speaker 1: the West Coast, you want to, If you want to
Speaker 1: be from and just be co signed.
Speaker 2: You gotta go against the chronicles. Come on, you gotta go. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I forgot you, Yes, all right, Joe.
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