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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 4: What an All Star game it was. Welcome in. It's

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Speaker 4: a Wednesday. You've made it to the middle of the week.

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Speaker 4: He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Beyer, Monte Belanios this year,

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Speaker 4: Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith, all hanging out after an epic

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Speaker 4: clash last night in Atlanta that Cavino and Rich took

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Speaker 4: in in watching the National League and American League come

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Speaker 4: to a six all tie at the end of nine

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Speaker 4: and then having to settle it via the home run

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Speaker 4: derby part due and the National League end up getting

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Speaker 4: the victory. I loved it, loved every second of it

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Speaker 4: last night erin Torres.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I was thinking with that intro, you

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Speaker 1: know you and I are closing in on half of

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Speaker 1: twenty years. No cuddling for you and I either, but

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Speaker 1: pleasure to be here today with you.

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Speaker 4: Here, here's the deal. Were you distracted by the moaning?

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Speaker 4: It's Manzi's intro that she hates the absolute most. But

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Speaker 4: it's the moaning intro that I think has been here

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Speaker 4: since day one. It Did you hear the moan in

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Speaker 4: the intro?

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Speaker 3: Everyone heard the moan in the intro?

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Speaker 5: All right? All right, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: No, I have thoughts on the intro, but CNR are

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Speaker 1: the best, and I don't. I don't really get it,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't know if like I have

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Speaker 1: to be a daily listener to understand or appreciate the humor.

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Speaker 1: I've never really understood it. But but yeah, zero cuddling

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Speaker 1: for us either, So that's an HR violation I think. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: All Star Game, so yeah, no, I listen. It was

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Speaker 1: it was I'll say this. I know we're obviously going

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Speaker 1: to focus on the ending. I thought it was just

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Speaker 1: a very well on night and celebration of baseball overall.

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Speaker 1: You had the Hank Aaron stuff, you know, Joe Tory

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Speaker 1: coming out there for half a second, players miked up,

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Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw. You know, I'm throwing eighty eight down the

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Speaker 1: middle here, somebody helped me. I just thought it was

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Speaker 1: an awesome night overall, obviously capped by a very unique

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Speaker 4: It was an awesome night that we thought was gonna

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Speaker 4: end with the National League running away with it, but

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Speaker 4: then it became a ballgame at the end, and you

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Speaker 4: throw that in and then you throw in the drama

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Speaker 4: like honestly as it as the game was progressing. Of

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Speaker 4: one of the things that we know that the All

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Speaker 4: Star Game will do is they will have some sort

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Speaker 4: of tribute, some bigger than others. And you mentioned that

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Speaker 4: the one for Hank Aaron was last night, I believe

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Speaker 4: after the sixth inning is when they did it. What's

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Speaker 4: interesting about the Hank Aaron tribute is that they are

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Speaker 4: like a ballpark removed from the ballpark that it happened, alright,

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Speaker 4: so like this is the park and then the previously

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Speaker 4: Hank Aaron hit hit that home run. So it missed

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Speaker 4: the mark with me on a little, especially when they

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Speaker 5: Where it lit up.

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Speaker 4: But and I haven't been to the spot in a while,

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Speaker 4: I assume that it's still there. But the old Atlanta

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Speaker 4: and where the Braves informally played. Now it's college football

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Speaker 4: So last night when you're seeing it on the All

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Speaker 4: with that, i'd put the bad of those hats. I

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Speaker 4: I didn't mind the ABS system. In fact, I liked

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Speaker 4: I think the drama of it, which is what I

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Speaker 4: It was really close, So then if it's really fire,

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Speaker 4: last night was a huge win for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting only from the perspective that, like you said,

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Speaker 1: I get that sometimes there's a better way to do stuff.

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Speaker 1: All you're doing is setting yourself up to have pissed

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Speaker 1: off umpires non stop. And maybe it doesn't matter, and

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Speaker 6: I just for balls and strikes. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's cool.

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Speaker 6: I'm watching it right now on my computer. It is cool.

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Speaker 1: Like you said in tennis, it works, we figured it out.

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Speaker 4: So what I don't I just I don't like the

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Speaker 4: it and adding some drama for Major League Baseball. That's

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Speaker 4: the biggest win that you can have. Maybe Randia rose

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Speaker 4: Arena doesn't care if he strikes out last night on

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Speaker 4: But if the Mariners are fighting for a wild card

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Speaker 4: the final weekend you get a call like that, completely

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Speaker 4: different reaction, but it doesn't matter for Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 4: Is the system would already push in Like last night's

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, And I again I think that yes it is.

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Speaker 1: It can be viewed as positive because in theory it

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Speaker 1: a little skeptical about it working bigger picture.

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Speaker 4: you've always wanted it. Did you feel last night portrayed

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Speaker 4: what could be the future of Major League Baseball? Oh?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely it did. My take going into the game was

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Speaker 7: to be celebrating all the great aspects of the game.

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Speaker 7: But everything you talked about the laughter after the we reversed

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Speaker 7: and then the entire audience was seeing a massive flaw

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Speaker 7: in the game right now, which is the technology caught

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Speaker 7: So my thing was, why roll it out for an

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Speaker 7: But stop embarrassing your umpires. Everything that we loved about

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Speaker 4: I felt like they started out it's like if you're

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Speaker 4: Well, I think ultimately what everybody is talking about it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys just take off.

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Speaker 4: That was the problem with two thousand and two is

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Speaker 5: You gotta go put the uniform money. Yeah he has.

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Speaker 4: If you want to do it in jeans, that's fine,

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Speaker 4: But for as the ending was great, like Kyle Schwarber

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Speaker 1: Well, you brought up an interesting point in our apprecial meeting,

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Speaker 6: It's an exhibition. That's ultimately all that it is.

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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we get so caught up and

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't mean anything. And the All Star Game,

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean to your point, Dan, I had

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Speaker 5: You get the point. Yeah, yeah, I understand who said what.

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Speaker 3: Logan Webb mentioned that he has a group text going

437
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Speaker 3: on and that the players instead group text feel that

438
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Speaker 3: they should do this instead of playing an extra inning game,

439
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Speaker 3: that they should just do it like that.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I think that last night fun and for the moment,

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Speaker 4: I go ahead, Manci.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to add that apparently Justin Turner

444
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Speaker 3: said this in twenty twenty that when the game is

445
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Speaker 3: still tied after ten innings, it should be a home

446
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Speaker 3: run derby. And so now that story is tracking again

447
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Speaker 3: because he said this in twenty twenty, and so after yeah,

448
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Speaker 3: that it should be a home run derby to decide

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Speaker 3: games tied after ten innings.

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Speaker 4: It's the most I guess, direct relation to what a

451
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Speaker 4: shootout would be in hockey, you know, pks and soccer

452
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Speaker 4: like that sort of thing, Like that's that's kind of

453
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Speaker 4: the equivalent of it. I know people don't like the

454
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Speaker 4: runner starting at second I actually do. I think that

455
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Speaker 4: it's I think that it's an interesting twist a little

456
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Speaker 4: bit in college Like in college football, their overtime isn't perfect,

457
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Speaker 4: but if you don't cash in on your possession to

458
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: start changes everything. So every play means something. And I

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Speaker 4: feel that like if you're in an extra game and

460
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Speaker 4: you have a runner on second base, if you don't

461
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Speaker 4: cash in in the top half, like oh boy, this

462
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Speaker 4: is this is gonna be a little this is gonna

463
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Speaker 4: be tricky. Maybe maybe you don't want to put them

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Speaker 4: at second, Maybe you want to put the runner at first,

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Speaker 4: but in a way to I don't mind it. I

466
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Speaker 4: think this would be hokey to do it, because then

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Speaker 4: it's just like, well, guess what we got Aaron Judge,

468
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Speaker 4: you know, the Yankees one and forty two and one

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Speaker 4: in extrating game, you know, like like that's what like

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Speaker 4: like that's what it would end up coming down to.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think it's very uh twenty twenty five one,

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Speaker 1: everything being in the moment at this exact second, and

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Speaker 1: then to everybody having access to a phone and social media,

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Speaker 1: and I include myself. I'm guilty of tweeting in the

475
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Speaker 1: moment sometimes. But it's like it is, to your point,

476
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Speaker 1: very stupid.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's fun on July fifteenth at the All Star Game.

479
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Speaker 1: That ultimately means nothing to your point, Yankees whatever, Orioles

480
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Speaker 1: Game one sixty two, you got to win to get in.

481
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Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, and by the way, counter that

482
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Speaker 1: so and so's hurt, so and so's this. We're a

483
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Speaker 1: pitching and defense team that isn't built on home runs?

484
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Speaker 1: What about the ballpark? You know it's a short portion, right,

485
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Speaker 1: but we're on the road and we don't have any lefties.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just such the gen Z. Like, and

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Speaker 1: I sound like such an old man, it's such the

488
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Speaker 1: gen Z in the moment, this is the coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: We have to do it. No, it's it was cool

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Speaker 1: in the moment. That doesn't mean it'd be cool in

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Speaker 1: every moment.

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Speaker 5: I won't even blame gen Z.

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Speaker 4: What I'm gonna say is, it's when you go on

494
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Speaker 4: vacation you're like, we should move here. Yes, No, it's awesome.

495
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Speaker 4: It's because you're on vacation. Yeah, Like if you were

496
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Speaker 4: there fifty two weeks out of here, it's probably not

497
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Speaker 4: as great. You know what, It's awesome to stay at

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Speaker 4: a hotel room for like a weekend. My son loves

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Speaker 4: the hotel. He has no idea what it's like to

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Speaker 4: live in a hotel for like eight straight days and

501
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Speaker 4: you just can't wait to leave. You have to eat

502
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Speaker 4: out every night, which I know may sound awesome, but

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Speaker 4: it's not that awesome. That's what this is.

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Speaker 7: It's like a date on any on any Batchelor show,

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Speaker 7: one of the one of the two of the couple

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Speaker 7: always says the following, I can get used to this. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: a resort on an island on TV. Yeah, where were

508
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Speaker 7: your food's free?

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Speaker 5: I can get used to.

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Speaker 4: That date when yeah, I don't have to pay for

511
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Speaker 4: you know, the room or any of the extra stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't met your parents yet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, all right, he's erin Torres.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dan byer Manci Bollaios, Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith are

515
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Speaker 4: here as we are in for Cavino and Rich who

516
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Speaker 4: were in for Dan Patrick earlier today in Atlanta as

517
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Speaker 4: they were at the All Star festivities.

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Speaker 8: Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: What's the saying, Aaron Torres, can't we just let sleeping

522
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Speaker 4: dogs lie? Is that the is that the phrase? I

523
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Speaker 4: believe that the the old adage of what is done

524
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Speaker 4: is done, let it be and move on. That is

525
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Speaker 4: not half opening with the dynasty that is the New

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Speaker 4: England Patriots. Welcome in. It is a Wednesday. You've made

527
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Speaker 4: it through half of the week. You got a few

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Speaker 4: more days to go, but you're on the back side

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Speaker 4: of it. So congratulations. Not only is Aaron Torres here

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Speaker 4: with me, so is Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith and Moncy

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Speaker 4: Belanos in about twenty three minutes or so, ultimate fail

532
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Speaker 4: in one of our favorite game shows. We're gonna bring

533
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Speaker 4: it to you and break it down like only Cavino

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Speaker 4: and rich Wood. That's all coming up on a Wednesday

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Speaker 4: here on Fox Sports Radio as Robert Craft and Bill

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Speaker 4: Belichick are at it again.

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Speaker 5: Not only are the two sides apparently on opposite sides.

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Speaker 4: The last time Aaron that I remember these two really

539
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Speaker 4: going at it was privately over one Tom Brady and

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo and who the sides wanted to keep, and

541
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Speaker 4: ultimately Robert Craft says, we're keeping Tom Brady, so Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be sent to the Sanford Cisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: There was no Era parents at that time for New England.

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Speaker 4: So Robert Kraft wins that one. Bill Belichick ends up

545
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Speaker 4: leaving as the Patriots coach. We now know he's the

546
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Speaker 4: head coach at North Carolina. But these two apparently have

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Speaker 4: a different sort of view in their history of how

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Speaker 4: things went down with the Patriots and really how things

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Speaker 4: started with the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: It is the story that just will not die. And

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Speaker 1: I know this is going to be a theme over

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Speaker 1: the next fifteen to twenty minutes as we discussed this conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this is that the thing that

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Speaker 1: I I guess annoying is the right way I find

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Speaker 1: this story to be a little bit boring and annoying.

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Speaker 1: Not that I don't think we should be talking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that kind of mentioned it to you

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Speaker 1: this morning. But the thing about the Patriots dynasty is

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Speaker 1: it's over. Brady's gone, Belichick's gone, Gronk's gone, Edelman's gone,

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Speaker 1: Bruski's gone, Rabell was gone. I guess he's technically back.

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Speaker 1: The only person that is still there from the glory

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Speaker 1: days is Robert Kraft. But that era of Patriots football

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Speaker 1: is over. And so no matter whose side you're on, Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Brady Craft, Belichick had nothing to do with it. Belichick

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Speaker 1: was the whole thing. Your opinion isn't going to change

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Speaker 1: because there is no new info. But we got two

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Speaker 1: old guys. Have you ever seen that video of the

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Speaker 1: two like CFL football players that haven't seen each other

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Speaker 1: in years and they start fighting in the retirement home

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Speaker 1: and they're like swinging their canes at each other. That's

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Speaker 1: what this is there's nothing that can change anyone's opinion

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Speaker 1: on what happened with the Patriots, no matter how many

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Speaker 1: times Robert Kraft talks about it, no matter how many

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Speaker 1: times Bill Belichick responds.

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Speaker 6: And that's the fascinating part to me.

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Speaker 2: Is that on July sixteenth of twenty twenty five, what

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Speaker 2: is this now, five full years after Top Brady left

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Speaker 2: New England, Belichick released a statement in mid.

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Speaker 6: July to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's wild to me that these two guys

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Speaker 1: care so much about this thing all these years later.

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Speaker 4: Well that's because Robert Kraft was on the Dudes on

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Speaker 4: Dudes podcast hosted by Gronk and Julian Edelman, and said,

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Speaker 4: this is and this is Craft's revision is history. I'll

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Speaker 4: give you a setup of how Belichick ended up responding.

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Speaker 4: But what Kraft said was that in nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 4: when he hired Bill Belichick, he was the one that

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Speaker 4: took the biggest risk. He's, oh, we have the audio

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Speaker 4: from it. Let's hear it. Let's yeah better than me,

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Speaker 4: let's hear from Robert Craft.

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Speaker 9: I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the Patriots

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Speaker 9: in nineteen ninety nine, it was a big risk, and

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Speaker 9: I got hammered in the Boston media, but I think

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Speaker 9: he was with us for twenty four years and we

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Speaker 9: did okay.

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Speaker 5: So Robert Kraft.

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Speaker 4: Explaining his reasoning on how he was the risk taker

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Speaker 4: that started the Patriots dynasty. There is no debating that

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Speaker 4: the Patriots took a different turn with Robert Craft as

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Speaker 4: their owner. But what an interesting sort of I don't know,

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Speaker 4: domino effect. Because when Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Robert

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Speaker 4: Craft were together, they were winning Super Bowls, they were

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Speaker 4: playing in Super Bowls. They were a perennial contender year

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Speaker 4: in and year out, and the best dynasty dynasty that

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Speaker 4: we've seen in National Football League history. So then Brady leaves,

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Speaker 4: and guess what, the Patriots are kind of mid before

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Speaker 4: ultimately just falling flat. Then Belichick leaves and they've still

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Speaker 4: been after another year with Jod Mayo as their head coach,

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Speaker 4: completely flat. So now you've subtracted Belichick and the team

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Speaker 4: took a downward spiral, and so now Robert Craft is

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Speaker 4: the only one there. This is where I think Robert

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Speaker 4: Kraft is. We'll get to Belichick's part. This is why

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Speaker 4: I think Robert Craft is saying this number one, because

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Speaker 4: he's the only one left. And so you think to yourself, well,

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Speaker 4: then okay, well Robert Craft had nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 4: This is all Brady and Belichick. I also think Robert

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Speaker 4: Craft wants to go into the Hall of Fame. Sure,

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Speaker 4: and at some point he's been up for consideration as well.

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Speaker 4: We've seen owners in there, and he probably wants to

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Speaker 4: go in, as morbid as this sounds, before he dies,

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Speaker 4: well wants that honor. So now, if no one's going

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Speaker 4: to toot your horn and tell you what you've done,

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Speaker 4: why don't you do it?

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Speaker 5: If you're Robert Craft.

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Speaker 1: That's an important point because you know the one guy

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Speaker 1: that gets, at least in my opinion, maybe you disagree

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Speaker 1: that gets. It's a question of Belichick, Brady Brady Belichick,

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Speaker 1: And depending on what point we had this conversation in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years, there's a different percentage for different guys.

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Speaker 1: Right at certain points, it was more Belichick, then it

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Speaker 1: was more Brady, than it was more Belichick than Brady

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Speaker 1: leaves he wins the Super Bowl. Now I think most

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Speaker 1: people would agree that it was more Belichick than Bray

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Speaker 1: or more Brady than Belichick. The guy that never gets

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Speaker 1: talked about is Robert Craft. And you know, he was

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Speaker 1: the only one there besides those two for all of

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Speaker 1: that entire era. And I do think he deserves some credit,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of stayed out of the way. He

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Speaker 1: probably deserves actually a lot of credit because he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a helicopter owner. He wasn't you know, Matt Ishbia or

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Speaker 1: somebody demanding to be involved or wanting to be involved

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Speaker 1: or being overly involved. He let the football people do

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Speaker 1: the football stuff. You let the players play. But that's

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Speaker 1: probably part of it too, is like he's probably like, hey,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just these two guys.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 1: I have been involved from day one as well. So

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Speaker 1: maybe that's why he wants to be involved or he's

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Speaker 1: tooting his own home.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he feels left out, yes, but Belichick, especially

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Speaker 4: when the Apple TV documentary came out, felt that he

652
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Speaker 4: was completely thrown under the bus by it. So Belichick

653
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Speaker 4: couldn't say much two reporters throughout his career. Now is

654
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Speaker 4: feeling like he has to defend his honor in response

655
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Speaker 4: to what you just heard from from Robert Kraft. The

656
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Speaker 4: funny thing is is on the Craft side of things,

657
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Speaker 4: like I truly don't know. And I was thinking back

658
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: in time trying to think of different ownership groups that

659
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Speaker 4: I felt were instrumental in them winning championships, and I

660
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: can only think of the one that I thought was

661
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 4: doctor Jerry Buss. Yes, fair in relation to what the

662
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: Lakers were, but it's also of doctor Jerry Buss providing

663
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: an atmosphere and doing so in a spot to get

664
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Speaker 4: the best players, to always get the superstar and then

665
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: bring in other big names around him. Now, I don't

666
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: remember anything in offhand in the National Football League Jerry Jones.

667
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: We known say it's the exact opposite with Jay Jones

668
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he got enough credit.

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Speaker 4: I think that the Steelers dynasty is wasn't wasn't Rooney based,

670
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Speaker 4: even though it's always been Rooney ownership, Like there's it's

671
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: it's a legacy, it's within the family, but we just

672
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: rarely have owners getting credit for their championships and their titles.

673
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Speaker 4: And for some reason, Robert Kraft wants that recognition.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, And and that is an interesting point of you know,

676
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think you're off the top of

677
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Speaker 1: my head, you know. The other one to the Hunt

678
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: family it's not like the Hunt people were like, well,

679
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know as.

680
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 6: Good as as good as Mahomes is.

681
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Speaker 1: You know who doesn't get enough credit for Clark Hunt.

682
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Speaker 1: So I do think it's interesting by the way, I

683
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Speaker 1: h ANTHI Reid, Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I know, I didn't

684
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Speaker 1: really knew anything for thirty years before Reid got there.

685
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Speaker 1: But don't forget about Clark Hunt. Let me let me

686
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: tell you about him. No, what was I gonna say, uh,

687
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: the bell. But then the Belichick response as well, I

688
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: don't know if we want to get into that elementary

689
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: let's do it.

690
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 5: Let's do it.

691
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Speaker 4: So this was in a statement that Belichick responded to

692
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Speaker 4: ESPN when asked about it. Belichick says that he was

693
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Speaker 4: the one that basically took the big risk. Here's the

694
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Speaker 4: statement quote. As they told Robert multiple times through the years,

695
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Speaker 4: I took a big risk by taking the New England

696
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Speaker 4: Patriots head coaching job. I already had an opportunity to

697
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: be the head coach of the New York Jets, but

698
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: the ownership situation was unstable. I had been warned by

699
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Speaker 4: multiple previous Patriots coaches, as well as other members of

700
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Speaker 4: the media and NFL organizations that the New England job

701
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: was going to come with many internal obstacles. I made

702
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Speaker 4: it clear that we would have to change the way

703
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Speaker 4: the team was managed to regain the previously attained success.

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Speaker 4: That part of the statement that Bill Belichick made about

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Speaker 4: taking the job in New England.

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Speaker 1: Can I say something that's the least controversial thing ever,

707
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Speaker 1: is that they both took risks, and they are both

708
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Speaker 1: partly responsible I wouldn't say equally responsible in the success

709
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Speaker 1: of that dynasty. They did take risks, because what's the

710
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Speaker 1: argument about Belichick? What has he won without Brady? I

711
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: know he made the playoffs with the Cleveland Browns, but

712
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: wasn't the greatest coach that ever lived until he had

713
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But he's also right and that he had

714
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Speaker 1: another job with the New York Jets and actively chose

715
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Speaker 1: to not take that job to come to come to

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Speaker 1: be the New England Patriots head coach. So it's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess the thing I think it is

718
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: interesting how I think both these guys to your point,

719
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Speaker 1: not only Robert Kraft, you know, being at the end

720
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Speaker 1: of his life wanting to get into the Pro Football

721
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but obviously Belichick, you know, in his

722
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Speaker 1: what we assume final chapter at North Carolina kind of

723
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Speaker 1: wanting to rewrite his history as well. I guess just

724
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Speaker 1: the thing that I do keep coming back to is

725
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Speaker 1: I just don't know that no matter what either of

726
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Speaker 1: them says, it's going to change anyone's opinion.

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Speaker 6: If you believe.

728
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Speaker 1: Brady was ninety five percent of the reason, there's nothing

729
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Speaker 1: Belichick's gon say. Nothing Kraft is gonna say if you

730
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: think it's more fifty to fifty, that's fine. But just

731
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that's going to change anyone's

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Speaker 1: opinion at this way.

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Speaker 4: I have loved Bill Belichick talking about football, and I

734
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Speaker 4: felt that when he did the NFL one hundred thing

735
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Speaker 4: where I think he was nominated for an Emmy at

736
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: that point, it was really really good. And I think

737
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Speaker 4: that Bill Belichick loves to talk about football, and Bill

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00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: Belichick can be a funny guy. Didn't he wear a

739
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: Navy outfit like at the Army Navy game when it

740
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: was played at Foxborough? I think, or something where he

741
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: dressed up in his old Navy gear too. Like that,

742
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 4: there is a part of Belichick that is the guy

743
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Speaker 4: that we don't know in the press that we saw

744
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: for so many years. So there is a different sort

745
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Speaker 4: of guy. I think lately with his relationship with Jordan Hudson,

746
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: it's really altered people's thinking of who Belichick is. But

747
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: I feel at heart Belichick is actually someone who just

748
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: loves football and is kind of a funny guy. You

749
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: just don't realize it. I think we all have those

750
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: people in your lives. You're like, you know what, that

751
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: person is, very funny, very witty. We know that Belichick

752
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: knows everything that there is about football, but you don't

753
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: know that that personality, and I think that's there with Belichick.

754
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: But again, like I said with the Apple TV thing,

755
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Speaker 4: like I said with the argument of Brady, and it

756
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 4: sure didn't help Belichick's argument. When Brady goes and wins

757
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay, no one's taking up

758
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 4: for Bill Belichick. Sure, no one is going to bat

759
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 4: for Bill Belichick, not even the guy that hired him

760
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: in the late nineteen nineties. And now that guy is

761
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Speaker 4: saying that he's the one that took the risk. The

762
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Speaker 4: only reason that Bill Belichick ended up being on Robert

763
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Speaker 4: Kraft's I guess short list in bringing him in was

764
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Speaker 4: because of his experience it had with Bill Parcells when

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Speaker 4: they were together or going to a super Bowl in

766
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Speaker 4: the mid nineteen nineties. So that's where I think it's

767
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: unfair to Belichick to say, and Belichick did leave the

768
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Speaker 4: Jets and how the Jets situation went down with Bill Parcells,

769
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: that was all kind of a mess that Belichick was

770
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 4: caught up in as well. But I just this revisionist

771
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: history of looking back at who took the risk and

772
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: who did this and who did that, it falls on

773
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Speaker 4: a lot of deaf ears. That's why you think. I

774
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 4: think that you're saying this is kind of a non

775
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 4: story as well, because the Patriot's dynasty is what it is,

776
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Speaker 4: and I don't know how many people care who takes

777
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: credit for getting the things start at, whether it be

778
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Speaker 4: Craft or Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a story that is very clearly, deeply

780
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Speaker 1: personal to these two individuals.

781
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: Is it a story to anybody?

782
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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Brady versus Belichick angle to it

783
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: will be a sports talk debate that withstands the test

784
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: of time, right, But this idea that Craft either didn't

785
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: get enough credit or we're trying to diminish Belichick, it

786
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: just feels extremely personal. It's why during the Tom Brady roast,

787
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: everything flew up until it was time for Robert Craft

788
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Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick to take a shot together.

789
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Speaker 6: Think about all the things that they said about Tom.

790
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Speaker 1: Brady during that Tom Brady roast, including about his now wife,

791
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: None of it seemed to none of it seemed to

792
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Speaker 1: cross the line. And the only time that it got

793
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Speaker 1: weird was when Belichick and Craft were asked to take

794
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Speaker 1: a shot together. I'm just picturing it in my head

795
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: right now as we speak, and so I just think

796
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Speaker 1: that it is something that is very clearly, deeply personal

797
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Speaker 1: to both of them. They do not like each other.

798
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Speaker 1: I just think that while it's very interesting to them,

799
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Speaker 1: it's two big names, it's one of the great runs

800
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: in the history of sports that we've ever seen. I

801
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: just don't know why we as consumers are supposed to care,

802
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: because again, there's no new chapters to It'd be like

803
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: me and you today, this would be like it'd be

804
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning releasing a statement on why he doesn't

805
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: get enough credit for his role in the Manning versus Brady.

806
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: Rivalry.

807
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: You'd be like, who cares, It's over, It's been over

808
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: and it's just I don't know. I just I understand

809
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: why both guys are passionate about protecting their legacy. I

810
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: just don't know why it was a lead story on

811
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: ESPN today, because I don't know why we as consumers

812
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: are supposed to care. And I certainly don't think there's

813
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: anything new to the story that should drag us back in.

814
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Speaker 4: I think Belichick's speaking and saying what he's saying, especially

815
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Speaker 4: after the sixty minutes debacle of what he's allowed to say,

816
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 4: is interesting. I also, honestly just think it's really crappy

817
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: of Robert Kraft to say something about Bill Belichick. What

818
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: was more in the podcast was he said, I gave

819
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Speaker 4: up a number one draft pick for a coach that

820
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: had only won a little over forty percent of his

821
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: games to get him out. It's a really crappy thing

822
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Speaker 4: to do to say, especially because I think we all

823
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 4: look back at the forty percent. We look at Bill

824
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: Belichick's tenure in Cleveland as one of great success because

825
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: he had the Browns as a playoff team and because

826
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Speaker 4: the team ended up being then sold and or excuse me,

827
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: moving should say like the tenure ended abruptly, but you

828
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: can't say that he didn't have success there, So for

829
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Speaker 4: him to go and use that against Bill Belichick again

830
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: after knowing everything about him from their time together in

831
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 4: New England, I just think it's a really crappy thing

832
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: for Robert Kraft to do. And what makes it worse

833
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: is that it sure seems that Robert Craft is trying

834
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 4: to say that stuff to prop himself up. So Belichick

835
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 4: has nothing else but to do but to actually defend

836
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: his name, because it sure doesn't seem like anybody is

837
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: rushing to his defense, especially and this would tick me

838
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: off as well if Rock or Edelman aren't calling Craft

839
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: out in terms of what he said. So now you

840
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: have former players who are like it or not inadvertently

841
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: brought into the mix and all of a sudden they

842
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: look like they side with Robert Craft. So if you're

843
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, like him or not, like it's a crappy

844
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 4: spot to be him, and if nobody else is gonna

845
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: defend him, he emails to defend himself.

846
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting.

847
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm debating if I feel any different about Gronk and Edelman.

848
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're not journalists, think they're innocent

849
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: like bystanders. But they get drawn into it because they

850
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: draft said it on their podcast and they didn't necessarily

851
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: go up and at least I don't hear anyway request.

852
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 6: To it, And I'm not.

853
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: I understand why Belichick would be mad, But it doesn't

854
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: make any of us think any different about Belichick, right, Like,

855
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: it's no different than when you know, Lebron does his

856
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: podcast with Kadi and they're making fun of Jordan taking

857
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: time off to play baseball. It's like, doesn't make me.

858
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: They're allowed to have their opinions. It doesn't make me

859
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: feel different about Jordan though, and it again, that was

860
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: something that was kind of crappy to say about Jordan,

861
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: But doesn't make me me as a consumer, feel different.

862
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: You know, we just talked about Wyndham Clark a little

863
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: while ago and in what Wyndham Clark was doing at

864
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: the Oakmont locker room. Oakmond didn't have to release a

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Speaker 4: statement as this said. The US opening comes around in

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Speaker 4: twenty thirty three is going to far down the line.

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Speaker 4: But they decided to take a stand because that they

868
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Speaker 4: felt that there was a wrong. That's kind of why

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Speaker 4: I think Belichick. Belichick could have just let it go

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Speaker 4: off to the ether. And been like whatever, but they

871
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Speaker 4: decided to take a stand, or he decided to take

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Speaker 4: a stand to defend his his own honor into what

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Speaker 4: he did. And I just think that the forty percent,

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Speaker 4: you know, the forty percent win there, you know the

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Speaker 4: four Yeah, it's just kind of passing. Then he's like,

876
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Speaker 4: but I think we did okay, and it tries to

877
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Speaker 4: soften it, but it doesn't like I'd be ticked off

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Speaker 4: too if I was Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've kind of talked me into this a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we've I think especially in our business.

881
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Speaker 1: We're certainly not as high profile as Bill Belichick, but

882
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Speaker 1: people say stuff about us all the time, and there's

883
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Speaker 1: sometimes that I think we all decide to just say

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Speaker 1: screw it.

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Speaker 6: I don't need to respond.

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Speaker 1: To everything, but there are certain things that are said

887
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Speaker 1: by certain people that you're like, you know what, but

888
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Speaker 1: screw that guy, screw that girl, whatever. I'm not letting

889
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Speaker 1: that person say anything without me getting my side of

890
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Speaker 1: the story out and letting you know how I really

891
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Speaker 1: feel about that person. So maybe I think you've actually

892
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Speaker 1: talked me into it a little bit of why maybe

893
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Speaker 1: the statement from Belichick made a little bit more sense.

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Speaker 5: He's her and Torres, I'm dan Byer. Our final thing,

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Speaker 5: Do you think.

896
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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick needs to prove anything at North Carolina?

897
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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be very quick on this, and it relates

899
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Speaker 1: to the Nick Sabin story from Greg McElroy earlier this week.

900
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Sabin's coming back. But I think Sabin

901
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: coming back would only hurt his legacy unless he leads

902
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Speaker 1: another school to a national championship. But I don't think

903
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Speaker 1: his legacy can get any higher. And I think Belichick's

904
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Speaker 1: almost the opposite. I don't think people really have crazy

905
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Speaker 1: high expectations for North Carolina. So like, if he goes

906
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Speaker 1: seven and five and six and six and in two years,

907
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Speaker 1: he's just like, I'm out. I don't think it changes

908
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Speaker 1: how we feel about Bill Belichick the head co coach.

909
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Speaker 1: I do think it would change if he has a

910
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Speaker 1: great deal of success, We're like, oh, he actually was

911
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Speaker 1: pretty good. And to your point, it wasn't just a

912
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Speaker 1: thing with Brady, and you know, he did lead the

913
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Speaker 1: Browns to the playoffs, and he did have this great

914
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Speaker 1: twenty year run with the Patriots, and he did lead

915
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Speaker 1: Carolina to the an eleven in one season. Remember when

916
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Speaker 1: that happened, So I actually think it's the opposite. I

917
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Speaker 1: think a good season or a good run elevates his legacy.

918
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Speaker 1: I don't think that anything short of something truly a

919
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Speaker 1: debacle like one and eleven whatever, I don't unless that happens,

920
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Speaker 1: I don't think it hurts his legacy.

921
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Speaker 4: And they're not going to. I think that it could.

922
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Speaker 4: I agree with you on building it up. I do

923
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Speaker 4: think that it could hurt him in a way. I

924
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Speaker 4: think almost North Carolina may have more of a risk

925
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Speaker 4: in terms of the fallout. It hasn't been good, like

926
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Speaker 4: the of what's going on in the headlines over these

927
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Speaker 4: last couple of months, and the girlfriend aspect of it,

928
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Speaker 4: like it hasn't been this rosy relationship, and people are wondering,

929
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Speaker 4: g's he's gonna make it the June first, while he did.

930
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Speaker 4: He ended up making it that far as their head coach.

931
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Speaker 4: But then you're wondering, all right, is this just a

932
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Speaker 4: succession plan? And so forth. But I think that there

933
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Speaker 4: it may. I don't think it was a no brainer

934
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Speaker 4: by any means, but I actually think that there could

935
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Speaker 4: be fallout from hiring him, Whereas I don't think that

936
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Speaker 4: North Carolina thought there was when they brought him on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, really quickly.

938
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Speaker 1: On that point, I think it's an interesting one because

939
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Speaker 1: with Belichick, you know you're gonna get kind of the snarky,

940
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Speaker 1: mean spirited guy with the media that doesn't really give

941
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Speaker 1: much access to anybody. But when he was with the Patriots,

942
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Speaker 1: he's winning so much that it doesn't matter if he

943
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Speaker 1: doesn't win at that level, which I think most of

944
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Speaker 1: us don't think he's going to, then you just kind

945
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Speaker 1: of got an old, grumpy, mean guy as your head

946
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Speaker 1: coach without any of the benefits of being maybe the

947
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Speaker 1: greatest coach of all time.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big game show fan. I love game shows

969
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 4: since I was a kid. I don't know if people

970
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: truly think of Jeopardy as a game show. If it is,

971
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 4: it's the highest level of it. Because I always felt

972
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: growing up Jeopardy you just had to be smart. You

973
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: had to be a really, really smart person. I know Jeopardy,

974
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 4: he's a game show. The point I'm saying is I

975
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: think growing up I had price is right that we

976
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: all still love. Let's make a deal. There's those shows

977
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: going on Jeopardy, quiz show. You gotta know your stuff.

978
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: It's not just like you get randomly picked you can

979
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: win ten thousand dollars. You gotta know your stuff. You

980
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: gotta earn it. Jeopardy has changed throughout the years, and

981
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: obviously Alex Trebek's passing USHERT and Ken Jennings now as

982
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: the new host, so there are things that are different,

983
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: but I think it's taken a change. Jason Stewart is

984
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: our executive producer. Aaron Torres. He is smitten by Jeopardy

985
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: and you record every night and watched last night's episode

986
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: as well.

987
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 7: It's the one thing and I know you guys could

988
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 7: appreciate this. Everybody here, the one thing that you and

989
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 7: your significant other can do. We walk off thirty minutes

990
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 7: and we watch Jeopardy every night. She kicks my ass.

991
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 7: She gets like for every ten answers she gets right,

992
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 7: I get one. And it's fine. That's great. And something

993
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 7: happened last night that was just ex special for us

994
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 7: in the sports industry, because we forget not everybody is

995
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 7: as tapped into sports as we are.

996
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: Let's hear what happened on last night's Jeopardy episode when

997
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 4: it came to this category, can.

998
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 10: We hit for the cycle for two hundred? As you

999
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 10: might guess, this hit is the rarest one in the cycle.

1000
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Speaker 10: Ellie de la Cruz completed the feed with one June

1001
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 10: twenty third, twenty twenty three, Pete, what's the home run? No,

1002
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 10: scot O, Carl. The triple much rareer than the home run.

1003
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 4: Okay to you, Pete, Yeah, sorry, Pete. We're gonna take

1004
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: it from here. I want to break this down Ryan.

1005
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: If you can get the if you can get the

1006
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: pause button ready, can you play?

1007
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 5: Can you play that again?

1008
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 8: Can we hit for the cycle for two hundred?

1009
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 10: As you might guess, this hit is the rarest one

1010
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 10: in the cycle. Ellie de la Cruz completed the feed

1011
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 10: with one June twenty third.

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00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so can I ask really quick? Was a cycle like?

1013
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Was thus cycle in baseball the entire category? Or was

1014
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: this one question in cycle related?

1015
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 7: It was like a kind of like an MLB All

1016
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Speaker 7: Star kind of like category baseball cycles.

1017
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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, and so basically single, double, triple, and

1018
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: home run weren't all of the answers. Obviously, as you

1019
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: went along, they didn't know that this one was the

1020
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Speaker 4: answer that they needed. But I paused it at that

1021
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Speaker 4: point because this is my problem with Jeopardy right now.

1022
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 4: If you were maybe a Reds fan, like you would

1023
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: you would be like, oh, I remember, you know, Elie

1024
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: de la Cruz had that that triple and he got

1025
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Speaker 4: the cycle. The question is, I feel in the old

1026
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Speaker 4: days would have been it's the most difficult, you know

1027
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Speaker 4: piece to get in the cycle. It would just that

1028
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 4: would have been the question. Now, I feel that Jeopardy

1029
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: tries to lead you on and give you hints to

1030
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: dumb it down for the contestants and to your point,

1031
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: as I told you this before, and you think it's

1032
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: for the listener, the viewer at home.

1033
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jay Stu plays with his significant other.

1034
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I like watching it and listen nobody nobody wants to

1035
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: feel too dumb where they're like, well, there's no reason

1036
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: for me to tune in because I can't get any

1037
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: of these questions right, I will say, though, to your point,

1038
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've gotten smarter through the years.

1039
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the answer. But it does feel

1040
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: like I'm getting more questions as time goes on.

1041
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: Jason Stewart, you kind of know what I'm talking about.

1042
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 4: What's your theory on this? Like these added little clues

1043
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 4: that they I feel that they put into these questions

1044
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: or should I say answers.

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Speaker 7: So this is how nerdy we are On the weekends

1046
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 7: when there is not a new episode to watch, we

1047
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 7: watch Game Show Network prior episodes. So we've been watching

1048
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 7: a lot of the twenty twenty five years ago when

1049
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 7: Ken Jennings was actually a contestant stuff. And I think

1050
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 7: I noticed this the questions back then. I don't think

1051
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 7: we're harder, but they definitely weren't as complicated. So I

1052
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 7: think the questions back then were easier, and I really

1053
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 7: do think the questions now are harder and they need

1054
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Speaker 7: an explanation. Does that make sense? So because I get

1055
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Speaker 7: a lot more correct answers from the shows from twenty

1056
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Speaker 7: years ago.

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Speaker 4: I really I think that these answers are leading. I

1058
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: think they are leading you to a place. MANCEI are

1059
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 4: you a Jeopardy viewer.

1060
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Speaker 3: I am the person that Aaron said that doesn't watch

1061
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 3: because I feel stupid af watching that because I don't

1062
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: know a single answer, and even the sports ones, I'm like,

1063
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: I know it, but the wording is confusing me.

1064
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Speaker 6: And how do I do this?

1065
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Speaker 3: I hate Jeopardy, but I'll watch it.

1066
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Speaker 4: I think that there has been a quite a push

1067
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Speaker 4: in quite a turn. I felt that the reason you

1068
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 4: watched Jeopardy previously was because you were smart and Alex

1069
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 4: Trebek was the star. To Aaron's point, I think when

1070
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Speaker 4: you're competing at home, I think that that is a

1071
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: big part of it. I also think that Jeopardy is

1072
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 4: turned into a game where the host is no longer

1073
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: the star. It's the actual contestant. Jeopardy is better when

1074
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 4: Ken Jennings is there, or James Holtzauer or Amy Johnson

1075
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Speaker 4: or any of their other you know, great champions that

1076
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Speaker 4: they had for on those long streaks, because that's when

1077
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Speaker 4: you gain momentum. I think they fell onto something with

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Speaker 4: Ken Jennings, and now all of a sudden, you got

1079
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Speaker 4: Tournament of Champions, you got Tournament a While, you got

1080
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: all these different games like that's it's now been so

1081
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: much more about the contestant and the people at home

1082
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: that I think that Aaron Torres is right. You think

1083
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 4: the questions are harder. I think that they're much easier

1084
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 4: than what they used to.

1085
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 7: Let me give you an example, just totally random example,

1086
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 7: and I'm probably getting the city wrong, but like they

1087
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 7: will start the question by saying she won her talent

1088
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 7: contest when she grew up in Flint, Michigan and you're like,

1089
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 7: there's no way in hell I'm getting that, and then

1090
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 7: they'll add then she became the material girl.

1091
00:53:59,560 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Know.

1092
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 7: Oh, it's like it's impossible to get the first half

1093
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 7: and then they fill you in with something easier. So

1094
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm making my point correct. They

1095
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 7: are harder questions that need filler, it seems nowadays when

1096
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 7: I look at both shows, the contrast, all.

1097
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 5: Right, let's get oh, sorry, go ahead, no all.

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00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: I was saying, we were talking about this a little bit before,

1099
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: but that's when I watched, Like with my wife, she

1100
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: gets She's like, how did you know that? And I

1101
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: think I don't know most of the answers. You need

1102
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: the context of you know, hey, you know this state

1103
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: capital that starts with Q is and I don't think

1104
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: there is one, But you get the point and then

1105
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well that eliminates it down to three,

1106
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: and then you just take a guess and if you're smart.

1107
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 5: You know if you get one or three.

1108
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: Aaron used the letter E like in the pre shows,

1109
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 4: you're kind of talking about this, so I like thought

1110
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 4: of a cute like a clue, like the category is

1111
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: E sports and then what they will do is they

1112
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: would say like this NHL city had a great run

1113
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: of championships in the nineteen eighty something to gush over.

1114
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 5: And then you'd be like edmon, you know, like yeah, you.

1115
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 4: Know to Aaron's point, like okay, how many e cities

1116
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: are there in the NHL? And then all right, well

1117
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 4: then you And then my point is you add the

1118
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: gushing part. Sure, oh there's a hint of leading you

1119
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 4: to the to the other answer. I get Jason's part,

1120
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 4: but I don't think it's as simplistic as his material.

1121
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 5: Girl, clue.

1122
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 6: See what the problem is. We're all nerds.

1123
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: None of us are big enough nerds as Jay Stu

1124
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: to go back and watch episodes from twenty five years

1125
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: ago to have the full context.

1126
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: So but we're we're we're sports nerds, and I always

1127
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: feel dumb when they have they're like, let's do Shakespeare.

1128
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 4: That's when I leave, like, you know, absolutely, Shakespeare for

1129
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 4: two thousand. I don't even I pick up my phone

1130
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: like that's what I do at that point. My favorite

1131
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 4: one is Babylonia for eight hundred. Who knows anything about Babylonia?

1132
00:55:59,520 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 5: What is that?

1133
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: So here's the question, though, as sports people. You'll see

1134
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: like the two thousand dollars sports question, and the answer

1135
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: would be like this Buffalo Bill's quarterback who just was

1136
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: on the fringe of a super Bowl. And we're like, obviously,

1137
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. So for all these actual smart people are

1138
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: they are they sitting there like, well, duh, it's obviously

1139
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet.

1140
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I think they are on I think there are

1141
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: obviously obviously it was Macbath an idiot. That's what makes

1142
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: the last part of this. Can you just play the

1143
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: rest of it just quickly, then we'll get to Manci,

1144
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: who's been waiting patiently for giving us the update.

1145
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 5: Go ahead and play the clue over if if you want.

1146
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 10: Twenty twenty three, Pete, what's the home run? No scot Her,

1147
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 10: Carl the triple, that's rare.

1148
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 5: That's Jason's favorite part is the home run was wrong

1149
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 5: by the way. He thought.

1150
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: He was like, the home run, yeah, suck it, suck it,

1151
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: but that wasn't. And then the other two well, radio

1152
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 4: silo of this is that it's a two hundred dollars question.

1153
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 4: It's in the first round. There's literally no risk to

1154
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 4: get in it wrong. So once home runs taken off

1155
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 4: the board. You only you're down to a multiple choice,

1156
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: which you know you never get multiple choice on Jeopardy,

1157
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: So click in and pick one of the other three.

1158
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: You probably know it's not a single. But I'm thinking

1159
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: these people are such nerds and don't know anything about sports.

1160
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: They don't even know what the others are. Yeah, well

1161
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: that's what I thought. Grand Slam? What is grand Slam?

1162
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: Well, did you guys saw the page Beckers Caitlyn Clark

1163
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: clue the other day where the answer was Paige Beckers.

1164
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: They were like, this women's basketball player and the first

1165
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: person who is Kaitlyn Clark. He's like, sorry, that's wrong,

1166
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: And then no one knew any other women's basketball player on.

1167
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 6: The planet, So it's kind of incredible.

1168
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 5: What is sacrifice punt? What Hank Aaron?

1169
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 4: That's oh man, so good. I used to never mind

1170
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: who cares? Were a ton of time? That's what a

1171
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: Monzie getting us the latest. I can talk about game

1172
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 4: shows for days.