1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Good luck with the most beautiful game. Do us prout 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: read a lot? They're up for running a game. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: So smooth, so sweet, splendid six sing just glorious text procution. 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Guys, all I'm looking for is sixty percent effort four 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: thousand percent of the time. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: How shot with that shop of mind? 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Good buddy, And that's why you. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: See nor beautiful tiers. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Look at his movements the. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Most dangerous amount of the planet. Nobody picture them. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Shut up, I'm trying. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: The wall. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: It's left to of the wide eyed drill reiffus. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: How old earth. 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Big that happens? 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to Wonder Goal, a with the 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: Soccerbating podcast from the Action I Work. My name is 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: Michael Lee buff joining me in just a moment. Are 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: my friends, colleagues, betting role models, Anthony Dbundo, BJ Cunningham. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: But before I bring in those two gentlemen and we 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: break down the sixteen remaining matches of the group stage 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: in the World Cup, a reminder that Wonder Goal is 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 4: presented to you by Bet three sixty five, the world's 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: favorite sportsbook brand. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Sign Up with promo. 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 4: Code action to get BET three six five's exclusive sign 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 4: up buffer in new Jersey and Colorado. Bet one dollar, 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: one buck, get two hundred free. Okay, a lot to 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: go over sixteen matches remaining in the group stage. There 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: is a clear headliner for us here. If you're listening 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: to us from Sea to Shining Sea in the United States, 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: it is Iran and the United States. So let's start there. 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: This is Group B. Iran get through to the knockout 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: round with a draw or a win. United States. They 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: need to win. The odds are USA even money favorites 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: Iran three to one on the three way money lineup 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: at three sixty five. The draw is plus two forty, 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: so odds makers are telling us it's a fifty to 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: fifty chance that the Americans go home their first World 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 4: Cup since twenty fourteen, and fifty to fifty that they 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: don't advance to the knockout stage. Is Anthony, You're gonna 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: wear the black hat for us on this show? Break 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: it Down? 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't want to bet against the United 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: States in an elimination match at the World Cup, and 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I will yet, but I am 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 2: definitely betting both teams to score. Yes, plus one ten. 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: I think that is a little bit undervalued, And I 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: agree with Michael's point and his bet that you know, 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: you get these matches where the total gets a bit deflated. 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: And if you've watched the United States, they've worked great 52 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: defensively and I've looked a little bit suspect going forward 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: the first two matches, but if you go back to 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: CONCAFT qualifying, you know, the bigger questions we have about 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: this United States team have actually come in defense. And 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: I think Iran has the kind of running type, you know, 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: channel running type forwards that can cause problems for the 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: United States with Asmuon and Tarami. And I think Iran 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: knows that yes, they can defend low for ninety minute, 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: but that they're probably going to need to score at 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: some point to get through here. And I think they 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: will look dangerous on the counter. They looked excellent in 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: transitioning on the counter against Wales. I know they didn't 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: score until the ninety eighth minute, but they hit the 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: post early. They created over one expected goal prior to that, 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: the two bangers that they scored Tsemi and then the 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 2: one hundred and first, you know, the kind of cap 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: it off. But I think Iran has kind of shown 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: what We thought about them before the England match when 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: I said how compact they were, and they gave up 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: six goals to the English, so compact. And look, they 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: looked great defensively against Wales, and I think that they 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: will cause a lot of problems to the United States. 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: It's the same kind of matchup where we've talked about it. 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: The United States can progress the ball off the wings. 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: They can have a lot of good dribblers, but they 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: don't have great passers and the result of that leads 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: to a lot of dead end attacks. And we'll see 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: what Burhalter does. We don't know yet recording this right 80 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: after the Iraguay Portugal match Monday, but I'd be interested 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: to see what the lineup is. But I'm going to 82 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: be taking both teams to score at plus money, and 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: I lean toward Iran plus a half because I don't 84 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: think the gap between these two teams really is that big. 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you alluded to it. I like chaos in these 86 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of situations. 87 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: We'll talk about there's a couple of matches that kind 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: of fit this where you want to bet against the 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: narrative of Iran just needs a draw. So they're going 90 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 4: to defend with their lives. The USA wants a one 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: zier win, and they'll score, and then they'll defend with 92 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: their lives and it'll turn into a rock fight. You'll 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: see that the under is usually over value and bets 94 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: correlated to the under or overvalue. We see this in 95 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: the Champions League a lot when these kinds of situations 96 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: happen in like the second legs of matches as well. 97 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: So I actually like the United States parlayd with the 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: over or you know, parlayd with both teams to score 99 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: in other words, the United States to win a crazy 100 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: match and then have some fun with it. Of course, 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 4: like we're never gonna judge anybody for taking the United 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: States and betting on them, it does seem like they're 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: going to be They're going to be paying attacks. 104 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: What's more American than paying a little bit of. 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: An attax on the United States of America considering where 106 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 4: they closed against Wales right like now, they're going to 107 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: be even money against Iran. If you're looking for a 108 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: way to bet the United States, I'm going to betting 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: the United States. If you're talking about a bet that 110 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: actually suggests here, I like parlaying the money line with 111 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: either the over or the boat teams to score. But 112 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: I will definitely be on the US money line. And 113 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: I also think if you think that the United States 114 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: is going to win this match, it is worth betting 115 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: and looking at the futures market on the US men's 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: national team. 117 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Here the path is wide open. 118 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 4: And I think what we've seen one of the major 119 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: lessons we've seen from this World Cup. 120 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: There are very few good teams in this tournament. There 121 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: are very very few really good teams. 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 4: And if the United States catches a break, like they 123 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: could play Ecuador, they could play Senegal in the next round, 124 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: they could play the Netherlands. 125 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Are you afraid of any of them? No? 126 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: And then maybe they'll play Argentina. Are you afraid of them? No? 127 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: Like it's the path is open. It's the point I'm making, 128 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: So have some fun. Hopefully this team doesn't blow it. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: BJ What do you think? 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: I do actually like the Americans here against Iran, Like 131 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: I understand, we don't have great passers to make line 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: breaking passes in between you know, the lines for Iran, 133 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: kind of like England was able to do once they 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: got into about the thirty fifth minute or so. But 135 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: the bigger point here is that Iran's defense, although it 136 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: is very compact, it really wasn't that great coming into 137 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: the tournament. 138 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Like they were very, very fortunate. 139 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: They conceded eight goals throughout qualifying off around seventeen expected 140 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: So the six goals against England was kind of just 141 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: regression overdue, and the two I mean throughout qualifying they 142 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: basically the only two matches that they had to play. 143 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 3: It's a team at the level of the United States 144 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: was South Korea and they could set it over one 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: point seven expected goals in both those matches against them, 146 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: Plus everyone in their back two lines of FOD doesn't 147 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: play in one of euro up's top five leagues. So 148 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: like the talent gap between the United States and Iran 149 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: here in terms of the midfield. 150 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Is actually quite drastic. 151 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: So I think Musa, McKenny and Adams should be able 152 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: to control the midfield. But to Anthony's point, can we 153 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: make those line breaking passes in between the lines to 154 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: actually get a ball through the middle like we were 155 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: able to against Wales, I'm not so sure the United 156 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: States if they're going to play the ball out wide, 157 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: We've crossed the ball forty six times and completed four 158 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: of them. So that is a tad concerning going up 159 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: against this very very compact I Ran defense. But again, 160 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: Iran is still on a second choice goalkeep right now. 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: I don't think that their goalkeepers coming back after the 162 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: concussion he's suffered in the first match. So again, we'll 163 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: see what happens with the United States lineup. I mean, 164 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: they could just go hot you right, Jordan Morris and 165 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Christian Roadelon on the left, and we could just end 166 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: this thing right now, or maybe we could actually play 167 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: our best player, Gill Reina, and go win this match. 168 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: So we'll see what bear Halter does. 169 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: He's probably gonna sit rain again because he thinks he's 170 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: smarter than everybody else. I do like the United States 171 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: on the money line of plus one o five. I 172 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: do project them minus one thirty one. I do think 173 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: the talent gip is actually kind of drastic between the 174 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: United States and I Ran, especially the United States midfield 175 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: against the Iranian defense in midfield. 176 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bear Halter made a little bit of a mistake 177 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: there by just settling for the draw and giving people 178 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: like Anthony who loves himself, a moral victory where you 179 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: can point to the ex g and say we deserve better. 180 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: When it served no pre purpose. 181 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: You know, draw was the same as a lost pig 182 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: pretty much there. 183 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: We don't we don't play our best players here. Yeah, no, don't. 184 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on there. Let's talk about 185 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: Wales in England, the other Group B match. A reminder, 186 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: all these matches will happen simultaneously within their own group. 187 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: They want to avoid a situation that we saw in 188 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two, the Disgrace of Gillon, where Austria and 189 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: West Germany had a handshake agreement to draw one to one. 190 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: Because they that score line, we get both of them 191 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: through and eliminate Algeria. So now we see simultaneous kickoffs 192 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: within the groups. These are the two pm kickoffs. Group B, 193 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: Group A will kick off at ten am Eastern time. 194 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: Wales plus seven fifty take you on England minus two 195 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: twenty five. The draw is plus three twenty. The Welsh 196 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 4: are coming off a dismal performance against Iran. What did 197 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: we say about this team? They profile terribly in those 198 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: kinds of situations where they are the favorite. But I 199 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: think that they actually will be a little bit better 200 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: here against England. I think that, I mean, I'm going 201 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: to bet because I'm going down with the ship. I 202 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: said from the get go that this is going to 203 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: be a good tournament team, and I still think there's 204 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: a little bit of magic left in these old Welsh 205 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: bones and what like England is in a weird spot 206 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: like they're through, like technically they're not in, but like 207 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: they're through. 208 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: This is like this is they've already won this group. 209 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: This is typical Garrett Southgate, like he will manage the 210 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: situation rather than the game. 211 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: I would I would assume. 212 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: So I think Whales are actually worth a little bit 213 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: of a sprinkle here on the money line as they 214 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 4: just go for it, clatter into those English legs and 215 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: try to just make life miserable for them for ninety 216 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: minutes before they get through to the round of sixteen. 217 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: Wales to advance needs a win and then they need 218 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: Iran and USA to draw or Anthony or they need 219 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: to beat England by four goals. What are your thoughts here? 220 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: I don't have a strong opinion. I just you know, 221 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: I was wondering if BJ had an opinion on his 222 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: England love after they were completely flat against it. 223 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: So you can't have perfect performances throughout an entire tournament. Okay, 224 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: everybody's gonna have one bad performance. Now is England's bad performance. 225 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: So it is where it is. We'll get through. We'll 226 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: get through. 227 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: The group will say, you both, we're talking about Jude. 228 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Bellingham and what did I tell you? 229 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: It's like he could be erased pretty easily. But you know, 230 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: by Jordan Patterson, Tyler Hadams the best midfielder in the 231 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: on the planet. If you put Tyler Adams on a 232 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: good team, good god, he might be one of the 233 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: best team. Some strikers, it might be a Golden Ball 234 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: candidate right now. Anyway, Anthony, finish your thought here. 235 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got nothing here. I'm passing. Ultimately, I do 236 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: think England is kind of going to play the same 237 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: way they played the first two matches with the handbreak on. 238 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: And sometimes all of your shots go in like they 239 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: did against Iran, and sometimes they don't at all, Like 240 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: the match against the United States. You know, a lot 241 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: of what happened in the early parts of the United 242 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: States England match would I think it would have played 243 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: out a lot differently. If Poolistic takes his chance, Kane 244 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: takes his chance, McKenny takes his chance, and that's kind 245 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: of the the other thing about these international tournaments. So 246 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: they're so game state dependent. So many first halves have 247 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: been either zero zero or oh shit, one team scored, 248 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: now we got to go, we gotta go score. And 249 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: there's like three goals in the first half. There's literally 250 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: no in between. Every every game is either nil Milson 251 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: user or you know, if you watched Portugal Uruguay today, 252 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: zero zero, one team scores and that Uruguay creates one 253 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: hundred expected goals in the next five minutes. 254 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: So did they score on any of them? 255 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: Because no, they did somehow, because Portugal is the best 256 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 4: team in the world. 257 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Guys. 258 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, I've done nothing here for England Wales. I'll 259 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: be passing all my attention will be focused on the 260 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: United States and you're benishing your both teams scored our 261 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: ticket there bj Like anthey said, you've been all about 262 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: this England team basically since before the last Euros when 263 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: they disappointed with the runner up finish. 264 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: You do you see any way to. 265 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: Attack them at this number against this team, a Welsh 266 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 4: team that you know, what, what do they have to lose? 267 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: Maybe this game features seven or eight goals. 268 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so before the tournament, this line was hovering around 269 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: minus one sixty minus one seventy and obviously now it's 270 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: been met up way way out of range where you 271 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: can actually bet England because you know you're worry about 272 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: them getting margin here. But this is a game theory 273 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: one where Whales they can't just sit back and they're 274 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: a low block. They got to come out, they gotta press, 275 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: which is gonna create a lot of openings for England. Now, 276 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: what was the difference between the Iran match and the 277 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: England match or sorry, the US match. 278 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: In the Iran match, for England, the. 279 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: US did an incredible job covering up the middle of 280 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: the pitch and not allowing easy passes to Bellingham and 281 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: to Mount like he Basically what you saw for most 282 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: of the first half and even throughout the second half 283 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: is just John Stones and Harry Maguire were just passing 284 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: the ball back and forth to each other because there 285 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: was just no openings and no lanes, so they eventually 286 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: had to get it out wide to Shaw or Trivier 287 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: and play a lot of stuff from out wide. Well, Wales, 288 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: if this was a normal match where they could just 289 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: sit back and looked counter, that's fine. 290 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: But like you said, Michael, they have to go for this. 291 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: They need a win to have any shot of getting 292 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: through in this group, which is going to create a 293 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: lot of openings for England to pick out passes, similar 294 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: to how they were able to do it against Iran. 295 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: And guess what Danny Ward's going to be in goal 296 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: Because Wayne Hennessy got a red card and Danny Ward 297 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: conceded the final two goals off of point eight post 298 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: shot expected plus minus. He's at minus three point three 299 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: for the season for Lester, so that you also have 300 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: to factor that for Wales. So if Wales is gonna 301 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: have to play open like England has looked vulnerable, so 302 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: Wales could pick them off for one here. But I 303 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: do like over two and a half goals and minus 304 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: one and four because I think Wales playing open leaves 305 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: just a horrible situation for them with all of England's 306 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: attackers getting through the lines and Wales, I mean, they're gased, 307 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: like they have no depth at whatsoever outside of their 308 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: starting eleven, and England has just so so much depth. 309 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if England put three or four 310 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: pass because Gara Southgate is one of the best managers 311 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: in the world. 312 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: All right, So those are the two. 313 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how he says it with a straight face. 314 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: Those are the two to the Euro Final we lost 315 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: on penalties. Were at home. We played every game at 316 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: home that you know. Just some variants went went against us. 317 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: That's all us. Those are the two games I'm part 318 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: of the team. Now. 319 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: The ten A games are Group A. Ecuador, I tried 320 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: to tell you, guys. They're plus one thirty seven against Senegal, 321 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: who are plus two twenty five. The draw is plus 322 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: two twenty in that match, Ecuador avoids defeat. If they 323 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: avoid defeat, they get through A. Senegal needs a win 324 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: or a draw, and the Qatar to think beat Netherlands 325 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 4: by two or something. That's not gonna happen. So it's 326 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: basically an elimination game, with Ecuador holding the advantage or 327 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: the draw protection. The Netherlands are very likely, through their 328 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: minus four to fifty a getst Qatar, who are eleven 329 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: to one on the money line. The draw is plus 330 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: five point fifty. Man, those those guitar conspiracy theories, they 331 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: played out pretty well here. I think we'll start with 332 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: Ecuador and Senegal. You guys are on different sides of 333 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: the money line. So before I flip it over to 334 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: you guys and you guys can have your little cat fight. 335 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm on the over here. 336 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: In a similar vein to the Iran USA match, the 337 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: over two and a half is sitting around plus one 338 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: fifty six. I think that's pretty crazy for considering the situation. 339 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: An early goal here sends this game off the rails. 340 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: If Ecuador scores, Senegal needs to score two. If Senegal scores, 341 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: then Ecuador needs to get a draw. So I'll play 342 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: into that narrative like what the he Ran USA match. 343 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: I think people are expecting this to be a rock 344 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: fight where Ecuador sit deep and darre Sanegal who win 345 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: one nil, and you know Senegal. Of course they're missing 346 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: Saudi Omane, but they I think both these teams have 347 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: kind of shown enough going forward. Ecuador, especially even with 348 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: Valencia carrying an injury. Basically he's getting hurt at the 349 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: end of every match. 350 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: He's twenty two to one for Golden Boot by the way, 351 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: everybody out there and he's currently tied with He's get 352 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: a bike again. 353 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: He uh. I'm just saying, Michael, yeah, but I think. 354 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: That just backing a chaotic match here is worth it. 355 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: And you know, if it's two and a half, if 356 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: you want to play in over three and a half, 357 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: four and a half. Look, these are going to be 358 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: the matches before the USA game, so it'll make time 359 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: go by faster betting an over two and a half 360 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: and then watching a nil nil in the eighty third minute. 361 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: So join me there. I'll let turn it over to 362 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: you too. BJ I'll see the floor to you because 363 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: this is kind of funny. Trader. 364 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to put my hand up. I was 365 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: wrong about Ecuador. 366 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: I thought coming into this tournament that they were lower value, 367 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: that they're even expecting. Old differential throughout, you know, Coke 368 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: American and World Cup qualifying combined with the fact that 369 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: they just hadn't been good against good competition in South 370 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: America was going to hurt them here. And the Netherlands 371 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: match just completely changed my mind. I mean, after the 372 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: Gackpo goal, Netherlands took one shot for the remainder of 373 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: the match, and I could have beat them unexpected goal 374 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: to one point seven to point zero seven. And listen, 375 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: Netherlands did a good job of controlling the middle of 376 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: the pitch like I thought Deang did a good job 377 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: doing that, but Ecuador was incredible in defending their penalty 378 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: area because they didn't allow a shot inside there and 379 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: Netherlands just had just five penalty box touches. So now 380 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: you look at this match, I think this is honestly 381 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: one of the more fun matches of the entire last 382 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: one because the game theory is so interesting here because 383 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: you have to assume that Ecuro has to assume that 384 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: Netherlands is going to be guitar. So if they assume that, 385 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: then they have to go for this win and say, okay, 386 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: we want to avoid England in the round of sixteen 387 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: and give ourselves a better draw, right, But then you 388 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: also have to couple out with the fact like, oh crap, 389 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: but if we lose, we're done. So I think Ecuador 390 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: is going to play how they typically play, which is 391 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: they sit back, they don't usually press high, they sit 392 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: in a mid block, and they just set these pressing 393 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: traps and then just hit you on the counter, which 394 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: is I assuming, I'm assuming how they're going to play 395 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: in this one. And Senegal, I mean they have to 396 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: go for it. They have to play very very open there. 397 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: They were a slow intricate team throughout AFCON and you 398 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: kind of saw that against Guitar as well. They did 399 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: score three goals against Guitar, but that was only off 400 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: of you know, point seven expected So now in two 401 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: matches against Netherlands Guitar, they're at one point eight expected goals. 402 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: They still don't have Saudi Amane. So I do like Ecuador. 403 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: I think that what from what I've seen from them 404 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: is they've shown no fear. I don't think they're going 405 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: to be this type of team that's just going to 406 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: sit back and just play for a draw and get 407 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: to the round of sixteen. So I mean my hands 408 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: up like they've They've impressed me through the first two matches, 409 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: especially how they were able to play defensively against both 410 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: Guitar and Senegal. So I'm on the South American side 411 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: plus one plus one forty. I project them at around 412 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: plus one ten. So yeah, I'm on Ecuador. 413 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'm I'm conceding my my Senegal off here. 414 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it was one match, it was an impressive 415 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: they played impressive they did. They played really well but. 416 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: Well against Guitar the first half, you know, and then 417 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: they matched it well two matches, and they got out 418 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: of Commo Bowl. 419 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Which I mean they are. 420 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I think they even expected goal 421 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: difference in cocka Calf Actually Common Bowl makes me think that, like, yeah, 422 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: they're an average team in Comic Bowl who qualified and 423 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: then had a really good match against the Dutch. We 424 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: are an agreement. The Cutters is pretty bad. So they played. 425 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: They played a good match against the Dutch team, which 426 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: the same Dutch team who didn't look very good against Senegal. 427 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: I mean, expected goals in that match were pretty much dead, 428 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: even they were under one. Maybe they got over it, 429 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, in the last kick of the game, the 430 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteenth minute goal that lost me a bet. 431 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: But I haven't really seen anything from Senegal where I'm 432 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: just like, this isn't really working. I think the argument 433 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: against Senegal is that they don't really have enough creativity 434 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 2: around the the area, Like the midfield is kind of 435 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: just a bunch of dudes who tackle people, and then 436 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: they don't really have like they're missing Sadiomni, which is 437 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: like true. But Ecuador will be with at Mendez here, 438 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: who's a big piece of the midfield. Nex to Cato 439 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: Cayceato also lucky he didn't get a yellow card because 440 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: he really should have at the end of the last match. 441 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: But he'll be in there. But I do think that 442 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: this Ecuador team has taken a ton of market money. 443 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: I mean, to look ahead line a week ago, Senegal 444 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: would have been, you know, the solid, slight favorite here 445 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: to go. You know, they were the favorite to go 446 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: through second. I think the markets moved too far. I 447 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: like Senegal. Now I do have a Senegal too advanced 448 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: ticket with the Dutch, so I'm probably not going to 449 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: actually put more money on it. But I think that 450 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: the market's gotten out of control here on Ecuador, so 451 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: I like Senegal. 452 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: Quickly, let's talk about Netherlands and Qatar. You both are 453 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 4: on Qatar getting two goals minus one ten. I mean whatever, 454 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: Anthony hego first. 455 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I got a poke the Dutch 456 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: with a stick or something, because outside of Cody Gakpo, 457 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: this team has been an absolutely train wreck. I mean, 458 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: Dobby Clausen, Stephen Berghouse, even Frankie Deyong, Like they're just 459 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: not getting any ball progression, midfield production out of those 460 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: guys like Deong. I thought, like I agree with bj 461 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: like I thought he was okay against Equador, but they 462 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: weren't getting the ball into the penalty area at all, 463 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: and like, yes, I don't. I think they need to 464 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: move Gackpo back and Memphis but another striker. 465 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: Memphis is hurt, right so you know, and it's going 466 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: to have to come on. 467 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Of course, I have a gag Po ticket, which I 468 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: think we all do, so maybe they'll keep him up there. 469 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: He'll score one or two more and then they'll just 470 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: lose because they're not that good. But they've been I 471 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: think relative to my tournament expectations, they've been the worst 472 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: team so far because they were not very good against 473 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Equador and they were not very good against Single and uh, 474 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure where it gets better because they don't 475 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: have ball winning in the midfield and they're not playing 476 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, the midfielders they are playing are not doing 477 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: a ton, so there's major question marks. They're still a 478 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: very good defensive team, I think, but man got some 479 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: question marks about them. Cotter will show some pride here. 480 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: I like them plus two. I might take some both 481 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 2: teams to score as well. I do think they can 482 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: get on the board, but just major question. 483 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: Marks about the Dutch attack, right BJ you're joining him 484 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: real quick. 485 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: We also have a scenario here where if if Ecuador 486 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: wins and Netherlands wins, both by the literally the exact 487 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: same score, I think it's going to come down to 488 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: yellow cards like it did with Senegal in the last. 489 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: Which which the Dutch would have. 490 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: Which the Dutch have one less yellow card than I. 491 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: They don't have it. They only have like one yellow 492 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: card the whole term. 493 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Ecuador has three and Netherlands has two. I looked it 494 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: up just before the podcast. Yeah, no, I like guitar here. 495 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: Like they've been unlucky, honestly defensively, like they've conceded five 496 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: goals off of one point nine expected Now it's just 497 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: it's honestly just bad goalkeeping, Like they've tried out two 498 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: different keepers, it hasn't worked. They have over a minus 499 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: two post shot actually plus minus. But in terms of 500 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: keeping teams out of their penalty area, they've actually been 501 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: doing a kind of a good job. Like Ecuador only 502 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: had seventeen touches in the penalty year, Senegal only had fifteen. 503 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: Now Senegal ended up getting ten shots in the penalty area, 504 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: but again they only created about point eight expected goals. 505 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: So like they did a great job at limiting those chances. 506 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm already on the. 507 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory long enough now might as well just one 508 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: more time, you know, and the FIFA is going to 509 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: give them one last, hopefully one last big, big opportunity 510 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: to give a good performance in front of their home fans. 511 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be you know, they're 512 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: obviously a very you know, low block, direct type team. 513 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: I don't think they're just going to come out of 514 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: that and just you know, start playing open with the Dutch. 515 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: I think they'll they'll sit back, they'll play defensive, and 516 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: they'll they'll try to take care of their opportunities and 517 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: then if they get something at the end. 518 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: They'll go for it. 519 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm on Katar plus two. I think, yeah, 520 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: this Netherland's offense has showed us nothing. And if they're 521 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: gonna have to start Gagpo and Berwine up top, I mean, 522 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: those guys aren't strikers. 523 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: So it's just. 524 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: It's difficult to continue to create a bunch of chances 525 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: when you have guys playing out of position. 526 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 4: Gakpo is the man is the man, but the man 527 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: him and Kuters are the man. And you should have 528 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 4: bet kudos for Golden Ball because you know who was 529 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: in on cudos in the summer, Frank Lampard. He said, 530 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: this guy, Oh of course he almost came to Everton. 531 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: He held out for a little bit oft ixos. 532 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: By the way, bj will be the biggest cody ghakpo 533 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: hater there is. Come January when you're gonna have to 534 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: keep these receipts because when he goes to United, be 535 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: just gonna start slandering him every week and say he's 536 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: actually not that good. So we'll be ready to go 537 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: all right. 538 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's inflated stuff there to be said. Come on, 539 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: it's not that good league. According according to Barrehlter, it's 540 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: not that good of the league. 541 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean bear Halter should have been arrested on 542 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: the field for telling them not to take that less 543 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: free kick and just kick it to the corner. 544 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: That was incredibly He literally told the media that Rena 545 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: was hurt and asked Rayna to go along. 546 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a liar. He's a bad, bad. 547 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Man, all right. Anyway. 548 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 4: Group d D is for group D and it's also 549 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: for dreadful, and it's also for den disaster. Australia plus 550 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: six hundred oh France, there's Denmark minus two hundred. The 551 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: draw is plus three twenty Tunisia they're taking on France 552 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: plus six fifty, France minus two hundred. The draws plus 553 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: three hundred d's of ten A and kickoffs on Wednesday. 554 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 4: Australia versus Denmark is much more interesting. From a two 555 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 4: tournament big picture standpoint, you would say a soccer ruse, 556 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 4: God bless them. They can qualify with a win against Denmark, 557 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: and they also qualify with a draw and a Tunisia 558 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: raw or a loss. The Danes are in the same 559 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: situation as the Americans. They are a favorite. They're a 560 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: bigger favorite than the United States. They need to win. 561 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: They can't afford anything other than a victory, and they 562 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: are minus two hundred to get it. And you guys 563 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 4: love your Danes, and you told everybody on this podcast 564 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: and all our live shows how much you love the Danes, 565 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 4: and you convince me to love these Danes. And I 566 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: got to tell you, there's nothing redeeming about this team anymore. 567 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: I hate them. I hate them a lot, and I 568 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: do trust them. I don't trust them at minus two 569 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: hundred I'm. 570 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Still trying to figure out how Cornelius didn't score that 571 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: hatter against. 572 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 4: Because he's on Denmark and Denmark doesn't score. He was 573 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: in the goal, yeah, and he couldn't score. I mean, 574 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. I think they probably are that 575 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 4: you said the most disappointing team relative to pre tournament 576 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 4: expectations for you is the Netherlands. For me, I think 577 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 4: it's Denmark and I haven't seen a team kill its 578 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: own attacks better than this team in the tournament. I 579 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: don't think the price is big enough on Australia to 580 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: have a Pontier, but it would be the soccer ruser 581 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: nothing for me out of spite, Anthony. 582 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, we could talk Denmark briefly 583 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: what went wrong. They played a really poor first half 584 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: against Guenisia where they just couldn't shrin pass together and 585 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: they weren't you know, the wingers weren't creating anything and 586 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: they weren't getting set pieces, so they weren't able to 587 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: use their edge there. They played a really good second 588 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: half against Tunisia and should have won the match. Sometimes 589 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: you don't take any of your chances and you draw 590 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Neil Neil and you're saying, Okay, they got pumped by France. 591 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: That match was not that competitive, and even still after 592 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: their set piece equalizer, Braithwaite had a sitter to put 593 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: them up to one and basically win the group. And 594 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: that's the reality of these international tournaments. I mean, the 595 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: margins are so small. Did they deserve to win the group? No? 596 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: Were we on the right side of that bet? No, 597 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: But even still Braithwait's chance and then of course in 598 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 2: Bappe and Boppe's the other end. But they were not 599 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: competitive at all with France. And it was kind of 600 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: bizarre because we're not even talking like, yes, last year's 601 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: Euros were incredible, but even in the Nation's League, Denmark 602 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: looked awesome. They played France off the park in one 603 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: of those two meetings, played even with them, and the 604 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: other one they looked dead. And so I don't know 605 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: what exactly went wrong. The attackers just didn't bring it. 606 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm passing here. I hope Denmark goes through 607 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: because I think that they if they play Argentina, I 608 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: will be betting Denmark. But you know, the Danes are 609 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: doing that same thing where until the last twenty minutes 610 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: against France, in the last half against Tunisia, they have 611 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: done nothing going forward and it's bizarre. 612 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: It is bizarre, and it's it's incredible poor, incredibly annoying. 613 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 4: And also like Australia, to their credit, like they've scored 614 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: both games, scored early, and I know one of them 615 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: came against Tunisia, but they kind of deserved their their 616 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 4: one nil lead against France if it was a fifteen 617 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: minute game Anthony soccer was just fifteen minutes long. 618 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: They only scored because because Lucas Hearnetta's tour is ac Yeah. 619 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: But still like they played well in like the first 620 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: twenty ish minutes of that game, and then Nbape just 621 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: really flew. I think I've been at what I'm trying 622 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: to say is I've been a little bit impressed with Australia. 623 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: They're they're well organized. We knew that. 624 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: And their defense is really bad though, that's the only thing. 625 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: Like it's kind of uns it's movable object meets stop 626 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: before us. It's the Denmark. Yeah against they were really 627 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: poor Australia. 628 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah defense, I'm going down with the ship. 629 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: If you listen to this podcast long enough, they know 630 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: that I love going down with the ship and it 631 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: never works. But I'm on Denmark. I mean you can 632 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 3: find him ONNUS one ninety out there right now. I 633 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: do project them my minus to seventy. Like Australia is 634 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: a team. You saw it against France. They have to 635 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: have the ball to be successful. That's how they were 636 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: successful and actually getting here to the World Cup. They've 637 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: also been incredibly fortunate defensively throughout qualifying twelve goals off 638 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: of twenty one point seven expected, like they just have 639 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: no they're one of the least talented teams in this 640 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 3: entire field. They conceded four goals to France off of 641 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: four expected, like it was one of those matches where 642 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: you're just like, yeah, they just got pumped by them. 643 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: Now we have a situation where the Danes have to 644 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 3: go for it. Australia not that great at playing through pressure. 645 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: We know the Danes are very very good in terms 646 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: of their pressing. They should be able to control the ball. 647 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: And I'm taking them on the money line because once 648 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: the Danes go ahead and one nothing, they just need 649 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 3: to sit on it. Like I'm not going to try 650 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: to bet them minus one because or even minus one 651 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: and a half because they don't need to get more 652 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: than that because they have to essentially have to assume 653 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: that Tniche is not going to beat France. But yeah, 654 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm just going to go down with the ship. 655 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: I actually do project some value on it and whatever. 656 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: Yep, whatever. Indeed, none of us have anything on Tunis 657 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: in France. 658 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: Kind of a weird but actually I might just bet 659 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: France over five and a half goals just whatever. It 660 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: is notable. 661 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: We talked about teams who have underperformed expectations the most. 662 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: France has overperformed the world. 663 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: The best outside and it's going to be them, and. 664 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: Uh and Teo and Bape are just sick and that's 665 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: like a problem for a lot of teams. 666 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: And Greek Gray's mind has turned into Andrea Pirlo. This 667 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: is something else. 668 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, somehow we can't do that for athlody Co and 669 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: get us through in the Champions League too. 670 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: Of many looks like just young Conte like they kind 671 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: of yeah, bitar, they a little more than a bit 672 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: they they kind of are on the good side of 673 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: the draw now, like when they play England in the quarterfinals. 674 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: I envision a world where BJ and I are on 675 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: opposite sides and It's gonna be really funny watching Kieran 676 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: Trippier try to guard and defend. 677 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: It's gonna be the wonder Goal waterloop. 678 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: Hopefully it goes as well as Wonderdog. Wednesday last, Yeah, yeah, 679 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: all right. The two games on Wednesday are the Group 680 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: C matchups. 681 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: Poland is six fraudulent. Then they're sick to one on 682 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: the money lined against Argentina, and Poland sit atop the group. 683 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: Right now, the seams are fraudulent. 684 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: There's six to one. Yeah, yeah, I mean every like 685 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: we keep saying it. Every team in this tournament is 686 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: for audulanic except for France and Ecuador and maybe and 687 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia two Poland six to one, Argentina minus two hundred, 688 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: the draws plus three twenty. Of course, these are all 689 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: odds provided to us by our wonderful friends at bet 690 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: three six y five. The situation here is Poland they 691 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: win the group and qualify with a win over Argentina. 692 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 4: They can also get through with the draw, but they 693 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: would only win the group in that case. If Saudi 694 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: Arabia draws or loses to Mexico, Argentina can qualify with 695 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: a win or a draw. If Saudi Arabia draws or 696 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: loses by fewer than three goals to Mexico. They can 697 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: also win the group with a victory and a Saudi 698 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: Arabia draw a loss. In other words, everyone is in 699 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: this group is alive. Mexico is the biggest long shot 700 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: to get out. They need to win and make up 701 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 4: the gold differential between them and either Argentina or Poland, who. 702 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Are right now. 703 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: Argentina's three better and Poland's four goals better. So a 704 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: lot to unpack with, like the two advanced scenarios, so 705 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: much so that you know it's it's basically you can 706 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: just look at these matches in a vacuum. Everybody's going 707 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: to be wanting to win it. Nobody's going to be 708 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: like managing situations and stuff like that. BJ. I'm kind 709 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: of with you on this. Here we'll start with Poland 710 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: and Argentina. I do think this number is a little short. 711 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: I think that Poland is maybe worth a sprinkle on 712 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: the money line. Argentina has failed to impress. They failed 713 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: to generate enough scoring chances to suggest that they're worth 714 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 4: trusting and minus two hundred. But Poland are dreadful too. 715 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: Like it's so it's hard to imagine them getting enough. 716 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: It's crazy that Poland. The Poland is the same price 717 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: as our Australia is against Denmark, which I think is 718 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: funny and basically the same price as Tu nisiea versus 719 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: France in this matchup. But I don't think that that's 720 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: the case. I think Poland is better than both Australia 721 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: and Tunisia and relative to their matchups. So I like Poland, 722 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: You like Poland, we don't like Argentina. I think that 723 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: this market is like this because everyone's expecting, oh, this 724 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: is a pre torn mid favorite. All they need to 725 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: do is get a result to get through MESSI can't 726 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: go home in the group stage. YadA, YadA, YadA. Ken 727 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: Poland steal it or at least keep it respectable. 728 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll be quite frank. Argenta sucked against Mexico like 729 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: they were terrible, and yes, they scored two goals from 730 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: outside the box. Everybody pails Messi as a god, and 731 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: then you know, everybody thinks Argentine is gonna get through it. 732 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: They sucked. 733 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: They had only had point two eight expected goals and 734 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 3: expected to try to point eight three. They had two 735 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: shots in the paled area and four deep completions. That's bad, 736 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: and especially going against a Poland team that is going 737 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: to sit in a low block and it is very 738 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: well drilled in doing so. And there's something very tactically 739 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: wrong with Argentina right now. 740 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: You know what they're doing. 741 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 3: They're playing a lot like Juventus is, where they're basically 742 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: playing a hexagon with nobody in the middle of the pitch, 743 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: so they can't get the ball to Messi. They're forced 744 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: to swing it out Widge, they're two terrible fullbacks and 745 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: just try to swing and cross after cross after cross. 746 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean they're in a four zero six. 747 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: When they're in possession, are either forced to play it 748 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: out wide or just play long balls or really risky 749 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: passes through the middle. Messi had ten passes received between 750 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: the lines against Mexico. That has to be his lowest 751 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: and Argentina shirt for his entire career. 752 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: They just they just have not impressed. 753 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, variants got they got the bad end 754 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: of variancegains Saudi Arabia, but even after they went down 755 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: two goals again Saudi Areba, they created one big chance 756 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: and then it was a ton of shots and just 757 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: outside the box and that's all they really do. And yes, 758 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: Messi is amazing and he can score from outside the box, 759 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 3: but if you're constantly doing that over and over and 760 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: over again, like variant's gonna catch you on the wrong way. 761 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: And that's what happened against Saudi Arabia. So for a 762 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: Poland team that is well drilled to play in a 763 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: low block, they do have capable center backs, they have 764 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: a good goalkeeper in Chesney. So I'm on Poland plus one. 765 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: Like I don't see it with Argentina right now, Like 766 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: they're they're very very very something very very wrong with 767 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: them tackles because they just will not put a midfielder 768 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: in the middle of the pitch to come and receive 769 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: a pass. So Messi's got to come out even farther, 770 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: even farther to receive the ball. So for a team 771 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: that's going to sit in a low block like Poland 772 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: and they're just gonna have to You're gonna have to 773 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: hope that Argentina makes a couple of shots and outside 774 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: the box to cover this minus one. 775 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, bad day to be Rodrigo de Paul. Like I 776 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: was getting a lot of its end zone now, But 777 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: what happened to Perettis. 778 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: Likes pushed up the field. That's that's what I'm saying. 779 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: With the passer though, and they can't get the bottom 780 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: MESSI I agree one hundred percent with BJ about Argentina, 781 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: Like you played a weird match with Saudi Arabia where 782 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: they came out with like a weird strategy. They played 783 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: super high, condensed the middle of the field, got you 784 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: off side a couple of times, and then you just 785 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: concede a couple of dumb goals. But like you said, 786 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: they ended up with you know, a little over two 787 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: expected goals that includes a penalty, so you're at like 788 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: one point three non penalty and then you take out 789 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: like a lot of just was just set pieces, set pieces, 790 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: set pieces. Because Satia Aba sat super deep as I 791 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: can have, I didn't think they were good at all. 792 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, but they'll bounce back. Mexico, 793 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: poor team, no attack whatsoever, they'll rip them apart. I 794 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: actually bet Argentina in that match got super lucky. Like 795 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: you said, they had no chance. They didn't have a 796 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: single chance the whole game good chance. So I think 797 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: there's major problems with the Argentine going forward. But I 798 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: also don't like Poland. I mean, Poland has rode the 799 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: back of Chesney to this point. I mean he made 800 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: a couple of spectacular saves against Mexico where they were 801 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: the weaker side in that match, and then he saved 802 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: a penn and the rebound in the Magic in saud Arabia, 803 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: and then made multiple other big saves where they should 804 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: have conceded goals there too. So I have question marks 805 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: about this Poland defense when they do nothing out of possession. 806 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 2: At least Mexico was contesting the passes into MESSI I 807 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: don't know if Poland can even stop that. So I'm 808 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: passing here. I have major problems with with both these 809 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 2: teams right now. If Argentina somehow gets second and they 810 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: play France, oh boy, we can get France at at 811 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: dog price. I don't think we are anymore You or 812 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 2: I or. 813 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 3: We might get We might get Argentina Denmark baby, and 814 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: then we then the Danes will find. 815 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: That's what I was saying said, I'm gonna be back 816 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: on the Danes when they play Argentina because. 817 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: They're not getting that's the Soccars are the third best 818 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 4: team in the world. 819 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: I'll bet Australia against Yeah. 820 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 4: So like I said, like every every but he's got 821 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: to look at these matches in a vacuum. 822 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, I mean. 823 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 4: I guess relative to expectations, has there been a more 824 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 4: impressive team in Saudi Arabia? 825 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: Again that award to France. 826 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 4: I know, like, what were your expectations for Saudi Arabia? 827 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: They were one thousand to one to win the World 828 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: Cup and they might do it. 829 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: I have them in my in our Calcutta So. 830 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: Guys know it's Coasta Rica. We'll get to them. Yeah. 831 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia's plus three seventy five, Yes, odds on minus 832 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 4: one fifty, the draws plus three twenty. Herve Renard is 833 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 4: minus one thirty. He's the odds on the odds on 834 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 4: favorite to win most handsome coach in the tournament, just 835 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 4: ahead of AliOS twice. 836 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: By the way, with Zambia and Ivory Coast, I. 837 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 4: Think Saudi Arabia are one hundred percent worth of bet Yeah, 838 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 4: I think seventy five. 839 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 840 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: Mexico has not scored yet. 841 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 4: Mexico has not yet, and have they have looked at 842 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: like not even close? And their one memo of choa 843 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 4: penalty save away from being completely caput right, and this 844 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: price would look very different. 845 00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be. 846 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 4: First of all, I want to say one thing about 847 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: the atmosphere for this match. Saudi Arabia's fans have been unbelievable. 848 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: Mexico's fans, of course, they're always unbelievable at the World Cup, Anthony, 849 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 4: I know this is your first one, but the Mexican 850 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: fans have this reputation of just traveling in droves no 851 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 4: matter where the World Cup is, showing up and turning 852 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 4: it into a party. Have they've done that with or 853 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 4: without surveysas and so it's going to be a beautiful sounding. 854 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: Cacophony type of match. 855 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: But I think the Saudi Arabian fans will be the 856 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 4: ones singing at the end, and this price doesn't reflect it. 857 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: Plus three seventy five I think is a good good 858 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 4: price on a team that they're approaching every game differently. 859 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 4: They're like, they looked really good against Poland, like they 860 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 4: should have scored Chesney, like you said, like he stops 861 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: a penalty, and it was really good throughout that entire 862 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 4: first like thirty five minutes where Poland was weathering the 863 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 4: storm against Saudi Arabia. I can see a similar kind 864 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: of scenario playing out here as Mexico doesn't scare me. 865 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 4: I'm not laying minus one fifty with Mexico. I would 866 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 4: love to meet the people that are seriously bj. 867 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I agree, but I'm gonna play in Saudi 868 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: Arabia eighteen to one to win this group because if 869 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: you truly believe that they can win this match, and 870 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: you believe that Argentina has major problems and can't is 871 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to get by Poland, Like, there 872 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 3: is a real scenario where Saudi Arabia wins this group 873 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: and they will be playing the second place in Group D, 874 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: which might be Australia in the round of sixteen. 875 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: That's a that's a very real possibility right now. 876 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: And I don't think people are I don't think the 877 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 3: market's really looking at that because I mean, think about it. 878 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, even if they play deadmark right. 879 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 3: Exactly, Like if you truly I mean, you know, Saudi 880 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 3: Arabia is what plus three seventy five on the money 881 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 3: line here, Yeah, Mexico's done nothing, Like if Saudi Araba 882 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: is going to play a high line. Besides Flazano, Like, 883 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: who is getting in behind this this high line is 884 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: gonna be ral Jmenez. He looks not very very old 885 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 3: Vegas and not effective whatsoever. I mean Argentina was dreadful, 886 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: but Mexico was dreadful offensive league ininst Argentina like they 887 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 3: only created like point two point twenty. 888 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Six expected goals they're expected throughout was terrible. 889 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean Saudi Arabia, I mean they're the 890 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: thing about them is they're a team that I said 891 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 3: it like guitar is very well drilled at playing together, 892 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: like they're all and are very cohesive. They know what 893 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 3: they need to do. Her Bernard outstanding manager. He'll play 894 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 3: the high line and he'll put pressure on on this 895 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 3: Mexican team, and they just they have not looked good 896 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: so far. And it was kind of a carryover all 897 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 3: we kind of were talking about coming into the tournament 898 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: where they were very underwhelming throughout CONCACAF qualifying, Like they 899 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: were very poor against the United States. So this is 900 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: another scenario where I'm gonna betting the chaos. So I'll 901 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: be on Saudi Arabia eighteen to one to win this group. 902 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 2: Let's go back to Cocacaf. Now let's go back to 903 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: Coca Caf, because let's think about some of these teams 904 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 2: and how they've done at the World Cup. Costa Rica 905 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: conceded seven to Spain. Mexico, Mexico struggled against them. Yeah, 906 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: I know they beat you, pamp but that was a 907 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: mickey mass Mexico. Mexico struggles against them. Mexico couldn't beat 908 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: the United States and qualifying, Mexico couldn't beat candidate in 909 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: qualifying who just got ripped apart by Croatia and got 910 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: ripped apart in friendlies before that. Defensively, like there, we're 911 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: clearly defensive issues with Canada that you know, we maybe 912 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: glossed over because we love our friends in the North, 913 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: but like Mexico hasn't been a good attack for a 914 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: long time and they are in deep trouble going forward. 915 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: If you can't get margin as a favorite, I'm happy 916 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 2: to take the underdog, and Saudi Arabia has given me 917 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: a reason to believe, So I'm going to take them 918 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: plus a half with a little money line sprinkle. And 919 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: now that Bja I mentioned it, I might even have to, 920 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 2: you know, toss in on that. 921 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: That's a crazy price for the groups we have we have. 922 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I mean if they if they win and 923 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: Argentina wins, it comes down a goal difference, they. 924 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: Would be at a little. 925 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: Argentina's at plus one right now and Sadi sat. 926 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: Is minus one Drawndowski, Yeah. 927 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: Essentially, but again it's eighteen to one. Like it's it's a. 928 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 3: Fantastic price given all we need is the Saudi Arabia 929 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 3: win against this poor Mexico team and a Poland defensive masterclass. 930 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll move on to Thursday. We'll start with Group 931 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 4: F because they're the ten am kickoffs, and as Anthony 932 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 4: alluded to our friends to the North Canada, they got 933 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: absolutely ripped apart by Croatia, so they are out of 934 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 4: the tournament. They are plus two to sixty against Morocco, 935 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 4: who are plus one oh five in their match, and 936 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 4: the draw is plus two forty. Morocco advances with a 937 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 4: win or draw. They can also advance with a loss 938 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 4: as long as Belgium loses, and then they can also 939 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 4: advance with a loss and a Belgium win as long 940 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 4: as their goal differential is better than Croatia, which right 941 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 4: now they are one goal behind Croatia. They can also 942 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 4: win the group by bettering Croatia's result and making up 943 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 4: the goal DIFFERENTI so Morocco, Baby, we're onto something here. 944 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 4: The price is just way too short though, I think 945 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 4: against Canada. I know people are going to say Canada's 946 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 4: got nothing to play for, but they do. 947 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: They've never wonted the World Cup. 948 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 4: They've got fans over there, They're going to want to 949 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 4: get a win on the board. I don't think there 950 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 4: are some teams like if this was Germany, sure, like 951 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 4: maybe Germany just lays an egg against in their last match. 952 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 4: But this isn't Germany. This as Canada team that this 953 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 4: would mean something. 954 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: I think so I. 955 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: Would be closer to Canada at this price than Morocco. 956 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 4: But ultimately it's a pass for me. Anthony, What are 957 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 4: your thoughts here? 958 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that the matchup's not terrible 959 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: for Canada. I think that Morocco doesn't have the midfield 960 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: quality necessarily or the transitional skill to really cook Canada 961 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: up the middle, where they're you know, showing to be 962 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 2: at their weakest, whether it's the center backs or the 963 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: defensive midfield. At Tiba, Hutchinson looking a bit washed out there. 964 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not playing them. I'm just gonna 965 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: ride the Morocco ticket that we have. They still have 966 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: a chance to win this group if they win and 967 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: the other matchs in a draw, which would be a 968 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 2: very fearable and tournament saving situation for some. So that's 969 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: what I'm riding out here. From a stylistic point of view, 970 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: I think Morocco has been extremely impressive. I mean they 971 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: took a part Croatia's attack and held them under point 972 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: six expected goals, and then took apart the Belgium attack 973 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: and held them under one expected goal. Not that's saying 974 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: much anymore because of what Belgium is, but like this 975 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: Morocco defense is legitimate. They're extremely organized. Out of the midfield. 976 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: Sophie an Amrabat probably my player at the tournament thus far. 977 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: He's been everywhere. Outplayed Luka Modrich in match week one, 978 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: outplayed Kevin debryna match week two. Not many people can 979 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: say that, so I think Amrabat's been incredibly impressive. Kemi 980 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 2: ball progression machine is always Ziek whipping in some awesome 981 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: free kicks. They really should have had that out of 982 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: that first goal too, but yeah, Morocco's been solid. Don't 983 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 2: love them as a big favorite here though. I think 984 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 2: it's a little bit inflated. 985 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: If they were the only team we were right about. 986 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: There's one more. 987 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true, I guess. 988 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 3: I mean, if you have a Morocco to advanced ticket 989 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 3: at two to one, you can head you with Canada 990 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 3: money line because there's no scenario where correct me if 991 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, but there is absolutely no scenario where Morocco 992 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: draws and. 993 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: Doesn't go through. 994 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: So if you truly want to hedge it, you can 995 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: take Canada money line and the way you have nice 996 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: little house money. 997 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, other than maybe a hedge, I'm just passing. 998 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 1: That's when the price is way too short. 999 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 4: The other match is a fun one between Croatia and Belgium. 1000 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 4: Croatias and Belgium Crocha is a slight slight slide underdogs games. 1001 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 4: Basically a pick them there plus one seventy Belgium plus 1002 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 4: one sixty the draw plus two forty at pattery sixty five. 1003 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 4: Croatia gets through with a win or a draw and 1004 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 4: a Morocco loss. They can also win the group by 1005 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 4: just bettering Morocco's result. 1006 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 1: Belgium. 1007 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 4: They need to win. They need to win, or technically 1008 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 4: they can get through with a draw and a loss 1009 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 4: by Morocco as long as Morocco loses by more than 1010 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 4: three goals, which is not going to happen. I think 1011 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 4: Croatia is worth a bet here. 1012 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: They're going to. 1013 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 4: Even as a pick them. Let's just look at it 1014 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 4: from kind of like the transitive property. Belgium really struggled 1015 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 4: against Canada. They couldn't figure out how to move the 1016 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 4: ball through the lines, through the midfield, and then Croatia 1017 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 4: just made it look like a walk in the park. 1018 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 4: They just ripped Canada to shreds. And then Belgium really 1019 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 4: struggled against Morocco. And I mean, I know Croatia didn't 1020 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 4: really get much going and Morocco is a better team 1021 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 4: than that match, but Morocco just dominated. I thought Belgium 1022 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 4: compared to like what you'd expect. And I think that 1023 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 4: there is a path of course to success for a 1024 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 4: team like Belgium. They always is. They've got one of 1025 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 4: the best goalkeepers in the world, They've got one of 1026 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 4: the best players in the world in de Bruyna, and 1027 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 4: then of course Lukaku, maybe if he turns back the 1028 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 4: clock a little bit like sure, like you can give 1029 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 4: a Croatian, you know, suspect Croatian defense in terms of 1030 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 4: personnel issues. But I think that getting Croatia as a 1031 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 4: pick them here is it's absolutely worth it. 1032 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: PJ. I read you a couple of quotes Michael that 1033 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: I came out of Belgian camp the last few. 1034 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: Days after they beat Canada. Kevin m Bruyna said, we're 1035 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: now winning the World Cup. 1036 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: We're too old. 1037 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 3: Our best chances in twenty eighteen, which is what we 1038 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 3: said coming into the World Cup, so he's right. Then 1039 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 3: they lose to Morocco, and then Jamfertongan taught him a legend, 1040 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 3: said yeah, we probably attacked badly too because we are 1041 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 3: too old. Right, So I don't think Belgian's playing really 1042 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 3: inspired ball to come back and get out of this 1043 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 3: group and win tournament. Plus, I mean they've looked so 1044 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: dreadful an attack. I mean eton hazard if they try 1045 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: to start him again, like over the best player in 1046 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 3: the world, Leandrew Trissard, like it's a crime because he 1047 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 3: has done absolutely nothing. De Boyne looks terrible when he 1048 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: doesn't have good players around him. Mukaku might be back 1049 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: for this one. But how effective is he going to be. 1050 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: He's been out for two months with an injury, and 1051 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 3: even before that injury, he was in terrible for him 1052 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 3: as it is. And you said it, Michael, I mean 1053 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 3: after Croatia conceded the. 1054 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: Opening goal of Canada, they just pounded them in the midfield. 1055 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: They controlled possession and they controlled the midfield. 1056 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: They were able to go through the lines, they were 1057 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 3: able to go out wide like they just looked incredible. 1058 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: And how I mean it gives me I have no. 1059 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 3: Reason to believe that they are not going to do 1060 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 3: the They're going to do the exact same thing to 1061 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 3: Belgium in this match, because Belgium has got exposed at 1062 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 3: every single position. 1063 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: Maybe except for goalkeeper. 1064 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 3: They just they look terrible like they're out a minus 1065 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 3: two point two expect a goal differential right now. So 1066 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm on Croatia, even though I don't project much value 1067 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 3: on it. I think we get one of these teams 1068 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: every single time Ornament that just they just quit like 1069 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: they for whatever reason, the team just doesn't gel. It 1070 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: happened to France, you know, in twenty ten. 1071 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: It's escaping who happened to the last World Cup. 1072 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 4: But Germany Germany. 1073 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: That's what it was. 1074 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 2: Yep. 1075 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 3: It just happens to one of these teams. And Belgium 1076 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 3: is the team this year. Sounds like they all hate 1077 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 3: each other. Robert Martinez is not the guy to men 1078 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 3: defenses and get everybody to play inspired ball. So I 1079 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 3: will be on Croatia as well. Pick them at plus 1080 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 3: one hundred. 1081 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 4: All right, Anthony, what about you? 1082 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's make it three for three. I mean, look, 1083 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: we saw a team with younger, more athletic players just 1084 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: try to come out and pressure and play with Croatia 1085 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 2: where they went at him and they had some aging 1086 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: midfielders and some underperforming center backs and they got absolutely 1087 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 2: wrecked in transition. And that game was Canada Croatia. Belgium 1088 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: is worse than Canada. They are worse than Croatia. They 1089 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 2: are worse than Morocco. How many teams in this field 1090 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 2: are worse than Belgium. Six? I did a quick count. 1091 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: I got to so not Costa Rica. 1092 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: Costa Rica is worse, yeah, I mean not or Cameroon's 1093 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 4: number three in my power rank. 1094 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 2: Now, the teams that I had that were definitely worse 1095 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 2: than Belgium were Cutter, Wales, Mexico Tunisia, Australia and Costa 1096 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: Rica are those are the only teams that I would 1097 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 2: confidently say were worse than Belgium, and that that's where 1098 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: we're at now. I mean, look, they're just not that good. 1099 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: And Martinez refuses to play trossard ed Hazard. I mean, 1100 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 2: there were a lot of times in the Morocco match 1101 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 2: where they got the ball to Edon Hazard with one 1102 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: guy in front of him, and every single time that 1103 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: guy dispossessed him or he was forced to play back. 1104 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 2: There is no explosiveness left. And Debrun has been bad, 1105 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 2: and I think his mindset's all off. I mean, I 1106 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 2: think he realizes it. He was he plays soccer for 1107 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: a really good team, and he knows what good soccer is, 1108 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: and he knows what shit soccer is. And he's watched 1109 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 2: this Belgium team completely implode. So I wonder if Martinez 1110 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 2: will give some of the younger guys a run, like 1111 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 2: I'd love to see Trossar Doku, like, give me something different, 1112 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: feel inspired. But if they roll the same, I levit out. 1113 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 2: It's Croatia Hammer time. We may only get one more chance. 1114 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 2: We are gonna only get one more chance, probably to 1115 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 2: fade these clowns. They've conceded three point nine expected goals. 1116 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: The only teams that have conceded more are Australia Saudi Arabia. 1117 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: It was a penalty in there. Costa Rica Saudi Arabia. 1118 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 4: That's it. That's really bad. 1119 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 2: So it's just a fraudulent team and they're gonna get 1120 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 2: exposed all like Croatia hopefully, part of me says will 1121 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: take the draw and then Morocco will win the group. 1122 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 4: I actually think like chasing an alt line too. I 1123 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 4: could see like Croatia getting out to like a two 1124 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 4: nil lead in Belgium. 1125 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I was saying, I will betting Croatia minus 1126 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 3: one and a half or minus two and a half, 1127 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 3: like I've been doing a lot this tournament to varied success. 1128 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of veried success, Costa Rica has had varied success 1129 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 4: so far in this tournament. 1130 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: They lost seven nothing to Spain and you guys, they 1131 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,479 Speaker 1: beat Japan one nil. 1132 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 4: These are the two PM games on Thursday, that's December first. 1133 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 4: Costa Rica's the odds makers are projecting a squeaker here. 1134 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 4: They're twenty two to one against Germany, who are minus 1135 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 4: a thousand. The draw here is nine ten. 1136 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: They're eighty to one to win the group. By the way, everybody, yeah, 1137 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 1: eighty to one to win the group. 1138 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 4: Japan and Spain are in the other matchup. Japan seven 1139 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 4: plus seven fifty, Spain minus two to fifty. The draw 1140 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 4: is plus three fifty. The situation here is fun. Every 1141 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 4: one of these teams can advance, So it's interesting. I 1142 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 4: don't think really, I know you guys around Costa Rica 1143 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 4: to not score, but let's let's quickly run through that one. 1144 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 4: BJ will start with you. We know you have no 1145 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 4: love loss for this team. 1146 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're new to betting soccer and it's 1147 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 3: specifically Costa Rica, what happened aginst Japan is just par 1148 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 3: for the course of what they do. They just sit back, 1149 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,439 Speaker 3: they do absolutely nothing for the first hour to maybe 1150 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 3: seventy seventy five minutes. 1151 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: They get one chance, they convert it and they win. 1152 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: That's what they did all through all CONCACAFT qualifying. That's 1153 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 1: the only reason they're here. 1154 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean, so far this tournament they have zero point 1155 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 3: one to one expected goals. 1156 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: That was all against Japan. 1157 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 3: They've taken four shots, none of which have come in 1158 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 3: the penalty area, and they've had five touches in the 1159 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,479 Speaker 3: opponent's penalty area. 1160 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: They stink. 1161 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 3: Now, the game theory here is the only realistic chance 1162 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 3: that Costa Rica has getting out of this group getting 1163 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 3: the round sixteen is parked the bus, pray to God 1164 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: that they don't concede against Germany and somehow get a 1165 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 3: draw and then Spain beats Japan. Germany, I mean, they're 1166 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 3: obviously a very possession dominant side. You could say, oh, well, 1167 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 3: you know, their defense can be open at times, like 1168 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: that's kind of concerning for me. But you know, after 1169 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 3: the Euros, after Hansei Flick took over, they played a 1170 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 3: bunch of smaller nations throughout World Cup qualifying. They played 1171 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 3: North Macedonia, Leechenstein, Iceland, Romanian Armenia. Instead of those seven matches, 1172 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: they only conceded about four expected. So you can find 1173 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 3: a Costa Rica not to score at minus one twenty 1174 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 3: right now, which I think is just an insane price. 1175 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 3: I don't see a scenario where they're going to try 1176 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,479 Speaker 3: to play an open match with Germany, like they're gonna 1177 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 3: park the bus and they're going to hope to God 1178 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 3: they don't concede. 1179 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 1180 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't see a scenario where Costa Rica even sniffs 1181 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 3: the German nets. So I'm on them not to score 1182 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 3: for a lot of money. And if I if I don't, 1183 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 3: if they score, I'll be bankrupt, responsibly. 1184 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 4: Responsibly bankrupt. 1185 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 2: I got up burly for the first half and I 1186 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: missed the lineups, so the game had already started. It 1187 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 2: was the five am Japan Coasta Rican match, and I'm 1188 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 2: watching the game and I'm like, wait a minute, like 1189 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: who are these guys, like where are the good players? 1190 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 2: And my I mean, so I pulled up the app 1191 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 2: and I said, wait a minute. We're not starting Kubo, 1192 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 2: We're not starting min Amino're not starting Asano, We're not 1193 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: starting Eto. 1194 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 3: Even if they started, it didn't matter, It didn't matter, 1195 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 3: didn't matter. This was going to happen either way. This 1196 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 3: is what happens, what costes. 1197 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 2: A friendly That that was one of the most obscene 1198 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 2: managerial things I've ever seen in watching soccer, and I, yes, 1199 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 2: this is my first World Cup, so you have to 1200 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 2: keep that in mind. As you guys keep saying, even 1201 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 2: though it's funny fourth, but I mean, it is ridiculous 1202 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: that they just gave away a half where they took 1203 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: one shot. There were point zero five total expected goals 1204 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: in the first half of the match. Nobody came close 1205 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 2: to scoring. They just said, yeah, we'll just shorten the 1206 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 2: game to forty five minutes. And great Japan played a 1207 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: good second half. They created a bunch of chances. They 1208 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: probably should have scored one. But when you shorten the game, 1209 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 2: you're just doing the underdog a favor. And that's exactly 1210 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 2: what they did. And our Japan tickets would have cashed 1211 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 2: if they just won that freaking match and now we 1212 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 2: have to sweat the German frauds would be done. I mean, 1213 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 2: it was incredibly frustrating. Swung the whole tournament and really 1214 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 2: I have not been the same as a man or 1215 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: as a soccer fan since. And that was that was obscene. 1216 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna put more money on Japan again. And 1217 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 2: you know what, you know what, both teams to score 1218 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 2: against Spain because I think it's a good again, it's 1219 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: a good matchup, like they can do the same things 1220 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 2: to Germany in Spain they did to Germany and Spain 1221 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 2: has shown some cracks defensively. 1222 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 3: If they play opening against Spain like it is, Oh 1223 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 3: that's nice city man, Yeah, I. 1224 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 4: Don't think that they're going to I think that, Like 1225 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 4: we saw what happened with Spaining against Germany too, Like 1226 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 4: they tried to take attack of their way from the goal, 1227 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 4: from goal line and goal line, and one mistake in 1228 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 4: Germany swarmed them right. Like, Yeah, Japan could do the 1229 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 4: same thing. I think Japan. 1230 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 2: Although if Spain starts Avara Maratta, that could be the 1231 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: missing link. Maybe we should call the louist a Rica 1232 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 2: and tell him, hey, man. 1233 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 4: Start your best player. 1234 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 2: You got the striker who's really good, the. 1235 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: Best player in the world. 1236 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 4: Japan's plus seven fifty, Spain minus two to fifty. The 1237 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 4: draw is plus three fifty. Anthony, you talked about both 1238 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 4: teams to score. I like Japan on the money line. 1239 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 4: Of course, the Japan saga this this World Cup, man, Nail, 1240 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm six six fifty plus six to fifty against Germany. 1241 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 4: Pat myself on the back. No, to be responsible and 1242 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 4: not bet them against as a favorite against Costa Rica, 1243 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 4: but fully expecting, you know, my my Japan futures to 1244 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 4: make the semi final thirty four to one, all that stuff. Nope, 1245 00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 4: be in great shape because they're the best team in 1246 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 4: the world and then they lose. 1247 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: They were lining up to get a great round of 1248 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 2: sixteen draw. Its potentially really good quarterfinal draw. Yeah, they got. 1249 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 4: Group Everything was looking great. 1250 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 2: Portugal in the quarters. It was a joke got past Croatia. 1251 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: If they got past Costa Rican. This is what does 1252 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 1: you guys don't understand. I just don't understand. 1253 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 4: Oh it's it's we learned the hard way. 1254 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you learn. 1255 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 3: But this is what happened to me. This is why 1256 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 3: I got so mad, because Coastri did this to me 1257 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 3: time and time and time and time again. Throughout conck Cat. 1258 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: We hit those Spain bets and we had a lot 1259 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: of money on those. 1260 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I like you. 1261 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, I like Japan on the money line. 1262 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 4: I think, like Anthony said, like they can have there 1263 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 4: is a path, there's like a viable path to success 1264 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 4: here there plus seven fifty against Japan. They were six 1265 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 4: to one against Germany. Is Spain that much better than Germany? 1266 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I'm gone they're better, but they're 1267 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 4: not that much better. I'm not Japan. 1268 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1269 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 4: Baja. Do you have anything here before we move on? 1270 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: No, let's just move on. I just do it just 1271 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: it was just sad. All right. 1272 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the final day of the group stage. 1273 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 4: That's Friday, December the second. We'll start with Group age 1274 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 4: because that's the ten am kickoffs. Ghana there plus three 1275 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 4: seventy five against Uruguay minus one forty three. 1276 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: The draw here is plus to eighty. 1277 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 4: For those of you like Anthony, who this is your 1278 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 4: first World Cup. Ghana and Uruguay actually have a ridiculous 1279 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 4: rivalry stemming from the twenty ten World Cup when Luis 1280 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 4: Suarez did the reverse hand of God, saved a ball 1281 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 4: off the line with his hand it would have been 1282 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,760 Speaker 4: a goal, and then I think it was Asmo Gian 1283 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 4: it's the penalty. 1284 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: And var didn't exist at that point exactly. 1285 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 4: And Uruguay got through. You could say it was heroic, 1286 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 4: you could say it was villainous, but he did what 1287 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 4: he did. So Ghanan's don't forget like that. They've been 1288 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 4: looking their chopped once they saw they got you on 1289 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 4: into Las Celeste's group here, and it's a It's a 1290 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 4: fun situation when you consider the rivalry because all these 1291 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 4: years later, Ghana ken return the favor and kick Uruguay 1292 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 4: out of the tournament. Uruguay needs a win and a 1293 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 4: South Korea loss or draw South Korea. We've taken up 1294 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 4: Portugal for Uruguay, the team that we all thought and 1295 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 4: we were right, good dark horse bet. If fifty don't 1296 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 4: want to win the whole tournament, they're still going to 1297 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 4: do it. Kinda just needs a win or draw. But 1298 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 4: if they draw, they need to have a better goal 1299 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 4: differential than South Korea. South Korea win. So God is 1300 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 4: in a good spot here, Anthony Pj's going down with 1301 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 4: the Danish ship. I'm going down with the Japanese ship, 1302 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 4: and you're going down with the sky Blue ship. 1303 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 2: I mean, look, we were recording this right after the match. 1304 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm still tilting, so I have not placed a wager yet, 1305 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: but I will be on Urraguay. I mean, this team 1306 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: underperformed their underline numbers going forward in South America, qualifying 1307 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: by ten goals. It got so bad at one point 1308 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 2: they fired the old manager, brought a new manager. They 1309 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 2: got the new manager bounds where they played the same 1310 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 2: and then the results got better cause Savarians and they 1311 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,439 Speaker 2: were the better team today against Portugal. I mean, look, 1312 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: people were you know, my friends who don't really watch 1313 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 2: that much soccer were like, man, Portugal has a lot 1314 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 2: of the ball, like is kind of getting cooked, and 1315 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, look, that's the Uruguay way. They have thirty 1316 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 2: percent of the ball. Portugal took nine terrible shots in 1317 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 2: the first half. Or I had the best two chances. 1318 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: Benton Kurd weaves his way through the entire defense, misses 1319 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 2: the chance. Darwin had a good chance missed, and then 1320 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 2: Portugal scores off of a cross it was gonna be 1321 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 2: headed but whifted and I mean, what the hell was that? 1322 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: And then. 1323 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: Says, all right, now we got to come out and play. 1324 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: Let's play. They hit the post, They missed a chance 1325 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 2: with Suarez, they missed a chance through Gomez, they missed 1326 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: a chance through forgetting who it was, but when he 1327 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 2: should have crossed it to the teammate, but he shot 1328 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,439 Speaker 2: at the goalie. It was hilarious. I mean, they created 1329 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 2: over one and a half expected goals, did not score. 1330 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 2: Portugal was under one. Scored twice. They got a penalty 1331 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: that I didn't think it was a penalty, but at 1332 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 2: that point, I mean, by the rule book, the rule 1333 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 2: the rule book, it is not a pal The ref said, 1334 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 2: what can we do? Yeah, So you know that correlates 1335 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,439 Speaker 2: to both of my bets here. Look, I bet Korea 1336 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 2: against Ghana. I thought Korea was better than God they 1337 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 2: outside them what twenty two to seven created way more chances, 1338 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 2: a ton of crossing, a ton of successful crossing. Goalie 1339 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 2: made some nice plays, got a lot of last ditch 1340 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 2: block defending. Credit to Gnaeians for that, and they have 1341 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 2: a fun attacking group for sure. But man Korea and Uruguay, 1342 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 2: I just broke my soul today and I'm ready to 1343 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 2: have them break my soul once more. So I'm gonna 1344 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: be on Korea plus one against Portugal, who's already qualified, 1345 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 2: still remains fraudulent and kind of stinks yep. I mean, 1346 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 2: go back to the Ghana match against Portugal two. If 1347 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: a k noty Williams doesn't slip, it's time match. So 1348 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: and also the Mickey Mass penalty to Ronaldo of course. 1349 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like Korea plus one and I like Uruguay. 1350 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 2: I think, well, I guess if Korea draws and then 1351 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 2: Uruguay wins or Aguay goes through. 1352 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: Yep, that's got to win. 1353 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 4: They need to win, and South Korea can't win here 1354 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 4: is so they win. 1355 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: As long as as if you guy. 1356 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 4: Wins in South Korea doesn't win lots of Celeste to 1357 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 4: get through our tickets, stay alive. 1358 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 2: To face Brazil in the act, which which I'm not 1359 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 2: that afraid of anymore. I think Brazil's kidding, but yeah, 1360 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole point of the ticket was to 1361 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 2: get to the other side of the bracket by winning 1362 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 2: today's match against Portugal, which we should have done and 1363 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 2: we didn't, and now the whole BET's dead. But such 1364 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 2: as life, there will be other bets. They will be 1365 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 2: other bets. 1366 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm with Anthey on both bets. And I want a 1367 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: little trivia question for you guys. 1368 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 3: How many crosses did South Korea have against Gone today 1369 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 3: and how many of those were successfully completed into the box? 1370 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 4: Sixteen and three. 1371 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: I'll go with four and thirty two. 1372 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 3: They had thirty five crosses and they completed fifteen of 1373 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 3: them into the box. That is the most at a 1374 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 3: World Cup. 1375 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Ever. 1376 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 3: So for an Hurguay team that primarily does like to 1377 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 3: get ball down the channels and swinging crosses to whatever 1378 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 3: combination of it's going to be with Nudiez, Kabani or 1379 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 3: Suarez like that is kind of concerning like they scored. 1380 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 3: That's how South Korea scored their two goals. I mean, listen, 1381 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 3: Ghana like, yeah, they created a bunch of chances like 1382 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 3: they did it against Portugal as well, like they scored 1383 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 3: on all three shots on target today. I'm not going 1384 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 3: to sit in here and say that I was a 1385 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 3: lucky win for them, because you know, expected goals was even, 1386 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 3: and they took advantage of their chances that they had, 1387 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 3: which were big chances. But they're going to be in 1388 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 3: a scenario now where they just need a draw essentially 1389 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 3: and they are through barring obviously a South Korea win 1390 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 3: over Portugal, so I expect them to sit very defensive 1391 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 3: and try to defend all these crosses yet again. And 1392 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 3: they did that against Portugal, right, They sat very defensive 1393 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 3: like they they're playing very conservative to start out, and 1394 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 3: they just created nothing going forward and Portugal completely dominated them. 1395 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 3: And then after the Ronaldo penalty is when Ghana was like, 1396 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 3: oh crap, like we got to kick things into high gear. 1397 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 3: And they did create a few chances, but they also 1398 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 3: were incredibly open and allowed Portugal scored two goals and 1399 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 3: created a bunch of chances themselves. So I'm a guy 1400 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 3: I agree with you. I'm on Uruguay minus one thirty. 1401 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 3: I think it's a very very cheap price for a 1402 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 3: team that has underperformed so far in this tournament. Like 1403 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 3: they weren't very good against South Korea, but they were 1404 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 3: obviously much better against Portugal today and listen, they got 1405 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 3: to go for it now. So I think we'll see 1406 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 3: their attacking players play much more inspired ball, much more 1407 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 3: much better pressing against a Ganan team that does have talent. 1408 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, and then yeah, Portugal. I mean, it's it's 1409 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 3: simple game therey. Portugal just needs to draw and they 1410 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 3: win the group. So I'm obviously gonna be on South 1411 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 3: Korea plus one at minus one thirty. 1412 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Five, because they've looked good in both matches, Like. 1413 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 3: They weren't good in the first half against Ghana, but 1414 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 3: they rebounded very nicely and they created a couple of 1415 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: big chances, and I thought they man, I thought they 1416 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 3: were going to pull off a historic comeback, and then 1417 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 3: Ghana just sunk me. 1418 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm probably just gonna cry. We'll watch 1419 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 4: yourguay I lose to Khana. But yeah, I'm with you. 1420 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 4: I think South Korea is the right side against Portugal. 1421 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 4: Considering the situation and if I'm going to bet Uruguay, 1422 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna bet them on an allt line. The two 1423 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 4: pm games on Friday Camera Roon I think have been 1424 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 4: the most entertaining team to watch on the tournament. They're 1425 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 4: nine nine to one against Brazil is four hundred. The 1426 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 4: draw here is five to one. The other matches Serbia 1427 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 4: at Switzerland. Serbia is a slight favorite plus one forty five, 1428 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 4: Switzerland plus one eighty seven, the draw plus two forty. 1429 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 4: Of course, those and all odds on the show are 1430 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,479 Speaker 4: brought to you by our good friends at bet three six'. 1431 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 4: Five here's how this group sets. Up brazil is through. 1432 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 4: Already they win the group with a winner or draw 1433 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 4: Or switzerland. Loss, switzerland they are in a situation where 1434 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 4: if they avoid a defeat they are. Through they just 1435 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 4: need a winner or drug Against. Serbia cameroon needs a 1436 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 4: win Against brazil and A switzerland. Loss they can also 1437 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 4: get through with a win Against brazil by at least 1438 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 4: two goals and then a draw With switzerland At, serbia 1439 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 4: and Then serbia needs win Against switzerland and Then cameron 1440 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 4: loss to get. Through so those three teams are all 1441 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 4: in the. Running cameron's the biggest long shot of them, 1442 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 4: all BUT i actually think that they're worth a bet. 1443 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 4: HERE i think that game is going to be. Bananas 1444 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 4: we've already seen The cameroon is electric going forward and 1445 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 4: they are not Competent brazil Are, Brazil so like this 1446 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,479 Speaker 4: going game could be just like what we saw Against 1447 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 4: serbia three to three and maybe like five to, three 1448 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 4: AND i don't. Know i'm just gonna bet the into 1449 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 4: the narrative That brazil is going not to take, it 1450 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 4: not going to take it all that. Seriously like neymar 1451 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 4: is already. HURT i know they have depth and and 1452 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 4: their team that likes to bring the carnival to every, 1453 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 4: match and they're not gonna they might, not you, know 1454 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 4: step off the gas, pedal but this camera roon team can. 1455 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 4: SCORE i think That I'll i'll back at this number 1456 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 4: here considering the situation the other, Match i'm going to 1457 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,479 Speaker 4: be likely On, switzerland but we'll see where that market. GOES. 1458 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 4: Bj what are your thoughts here on those final two 1459 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 4: group stage? 1460 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Matches? 1461 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah so WHAT i Like, Cameroon, yeah they that was 1462 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 3: a crazy match this, morning BUT i would like you, 1463 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 3: said what really worries me is that they just have 1464 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 3: nothing outside of their, Attackers like their midfield in defense 1465 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 3: is absolutely, dreadful and like we saw Against, switzerland like 1466 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 3: when they're not able to control possession for a majority 1467 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 3: of the, Match like a team that Like, brazil who's 1468 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 3: going to stranglehold that type of possession and be able 1469 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 3: to play right through. Them is that is really concerning to. 1470 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 3: Me but again the game theory says That brazil just 1471 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 3: they just need to. 1472 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: Draw and they've won this. 1473 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 3: Group SO i will be passing on that one and THEN, 1474 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 3: i LIKE i do Like switzerland and the other. 1475 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Match John avett at plus one. 1476 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 3: TEN i think this is just one of those typical we, 1477 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 3: see whether it be tournaments or when we get towards 1478 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 3: the end of a premier league season when teams you, 1479 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 3: know need not to be relegated or whatever it, is 1480 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,959 Speaker 3: where you just see an inflated line on a team 1481 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 3: that needs to win one that necessarily doesn't need. 1482 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: To So i'll be On switzerland plus one. 1483 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 3: TEN i, Mean, serbia they've been probably one of the 1484 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 3: worst defenses in this in This World cup field so, 1485 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 3: Far like they've conceded four point seven expected goals through 1486 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 3: their first two, Matches like defense was a big issue 1487 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 3: coming into the, tournament and it's it's shown. 1488 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Through those two. 1489 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 3: Matches so If, switzerland who is very well drilled tactically 1490 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 3: can is perfectly fine playing out of possession, encountering that 1491 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 3: really worries. 1492 01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Me IF i want to. 1493 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 3: Back, serbia and if you want to Back, serbia just 1494 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 3: back them to, advance like that's probably the best price 1495 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 3: here to play. Them but, YEAH i will be on 1496 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 3: The swiss rono bet at plus one, ten But i'm 1497 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 3: going to pass on the other. 1498 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Match i'm not going to get to Braziled. 1499 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 4: Anthony are you willing to try to Get brazil t? 1500 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 4: HERE i, mean, yeah what better way to end the 1501 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 4: group STAGE Bj they're. 1502 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Getting A venetius junior hat. Trick, yeah it will be 1503 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 1: this hat. 1504 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 2: TRICK i get Two brazil cash my both teams to 1505 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 2: score cash plus two Because i'm betting. Both i've been 1506 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: impressed by the camerony. Inside they've created three expected, goals 1507 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 2: which is more Than switzerland in this, group which is 1508 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 2: more Than serbia in this, group which is more than 1509 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 2: the majority of this field has created so, far which 1510 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 2: is pretty, notable AND i think that they will go for. 1511 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: It they have nothing to lose, whatsoever they have to 1512 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 2: go out and try to beat the best team in the. 1513 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 2: World there will probably be the they were probable they 1514 01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 2: will probably after who rock On, England, oh right After, 1515 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 2: morocco the second best team in the. World but, YEAH 1516 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 2: i Think cameron is absolutely live. Here you mentioned the 1517 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 2: runners Like brazil faced two teams who are very, slow 1518 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 2: pragmatic build up teams who are not going to threaten 1519 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 2: you with runners in the channels Or payson Behind serbia's 1520 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 2: across Team Switzer one's a slow build up eventually to 1521 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 2: a cross or en below carries into the. 1522 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Area Team. 1523 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Cameroon's a different kind of, challenge AND i think it's 1524 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 2: a challenge that can get out this. Team So i'm 1525 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 2: going to take the both teams to score and the 1526 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 2: plus two on The. Cameroon if it gets to plus 1527 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 2: one and a, Half i'd probably be more, hesitant but 1528 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 2: definitely like them. Here all. 1529 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 4: Right that brings to a close this episode Of Wonder, 1530 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 4: goal the Soccer banting podcast from The Action, network presented 1531 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 4: to you By bet three sixty, five the world's favorite 1532 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 4: sports but. 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Has watching some of 1537 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 4: these teams just ruin my, mornings my, afternoons my holidays 1538 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 4: is Not but you know what they always say About Wonder. 1539 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 4: Goal we're a second half of The tournament podcast and 1540 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 4: The round of sixteenes where we're gonna really get. 1541 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 1: Hot one parlay away from getting it all. 1542 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 4: Back we're really gonna get, Hot Go. USA i will 1543 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 4: see you guys all in a few days as we 1544 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 4: preview the knockout. Stages until, then bets of luck with 1545 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 4: all your best